Civilian Body Armor: 18 oz That Could Save Your Ass

Body armor is legal for civilians. I do not recommend running around with it day to day. But when things go bad, like WROL, it would be good to have it in your system. Integrating it into your existing plate carriers is recommended since you will be carrying other stuff. For neighborhood security or check point you may have to run, it may save your life. In this video I will introduce you to some of the best, LIGHTEST body armor plates known to mankind and I secure special TNP pricing for you as well.//////////////////////www.firearmsprostore.com

[@bringhillarytoheel1999]

Everyone also learn first aid. If you save your buddy's life he has to cover the beer tab forever.

[@kc285b]

I'm a retired Police Officer, I.ve worked in the police supply industry and I've worked with class III firearms dealers. I've been around the block several times. You guys have got your crap together. I'll be a loyal watcher.

[@Theonelordnikon]

+Kevin Cash Cool

[@walterworrall]

+Kevin Cash Thank you for your service!

[@LordLegato]

+Utube Ninja thugs are weak, they cant even aim right.

[@accidentalgencide7492]

"If your being shot 9 times from a AK you need better cover" -Nutnfancy

[@Runk3lsmcdougal]

I bought a plate carrier with level 3 riffle threat steal plates and it said the weight was 8 pounds but didnt realize per plate lol, shits heavy.

[@michelangelo644]

Nutn - Not sure if you or TD checks comments on older vids like this, but the phenomenon you mention at 2:55 - things being made illegal by protectionists - is one of the greatest challenges to getting my systems squared away. On the one hand, I want to go by highest priority in a "tactically squared away" mindset. Get my AR's squared away, stockpile some ammo, etc... The other hand is I feel like I should make sure I go after things I worry about being made illegal first. It's damn frustrating. I currently have a bunch of rifles waiting for optics, lights, slings -- pistols waiting for decent holsters, trigger jobs, new sites, all that stuff, Because I feel I am forced to go after mags and stuff like body armor that is in greater danger of being made illegal in the near future. I want to enjoy this process, because in many ways it (squaring your systems away) can be a fun hobby, but common sense is always making me think of future availability first, and it can be severely limiting to current satisfaction.

[@Swiftbeatz46]

+powerrangerjesus I am right there with you...right now my aim is suppressors and SBR'ing stripped lowers because of the new ATF ruling going into effect in July. Comes with the hobby I guess -_-

[@nathanatramp]

Man, I've just been waiting for SOMEBODY to do a review on these since I saw the SHOT vids. Thanks so much for getting out there and uncovering some really sweet gear. This is like industry-shifting stuff, dude. Way to go!

[@fgdrfgteryut7yu]

Time for an update Nutn . $165 for level 3a that only stops pistol rounds? How about $65 for the AR500 level 3 that stops 7.62fmj and 556fmj and also 7.62 and 5.56 API. Sure they weigh 7.5lbs so your looking at 15lbs front and back but it's an armor everyman can afford. If you add the side armor it comes to a total of 20lbs. You can get all sides armored and a good plate carrier for under what it costs for a single DKX level 3 plate. Talk about value, yes I understand weight BUT cost is every bit as important as any armor is better then none.

[@zachhenderson4586]

Don't forget .308 lol

[@MrScottPhillips]

Size and Weight Constraints apply here. You have 15 pounds for armor, a likely 8 pound rifle, weight for all the magazines, your pistol, and other gear you may want to carry. You're looking at easily 30 pounds of gear to carry around all day. Can you carry/run/fight with all that weight all day? Maybe, if you're really in shape (which is a good idea anyway) but even then you'll get fatigued. Why not invest some money reducing the weight of your loadout and improve your physical ability to fight, should that awful day come?

[@fgdrfgteryut7yu]

why not? Your not married are you? My point is some armor is better then no armor IF you can't afford $900. You can afford $130, yes it's heavier but at least you will have some. Yes if money is not an issue by all means the dkx is the lightest , just not the most affordable.

[@bigjim9706]

fgdrfgteryut7yu

[@fgdrfgteryut7yu]

Yes, I really am not an armor specialist. However the ar500 video they actually put up on youtube looks like it cought 95% of the spalling. Better then nothing is my point.

[@Patriot36]

Excellent review Nutn. I just wanted to add that you don't want to subject polypropylene or Dyneema to high temperatures such as those that would be encountered in an automobile in summer time. 175F+ can degrade the material.

[@mnyshrpknvs]

24:02 " Expensive? Yeah!" How much is your life worth?! Buy one or two less firearms and set yourself up with some life saving body armor.

[@uscgalpha91]

Thank you for making really good videos. I used to work at Tactical Tailor and we supplied carriers to LE, Military. I got a plate carrier and used soft for range time. I have seen several instences where ricochet hit folks when bullet jacket fraged. Most people have a medical deductible and one trip to the ER costs more that a set of 3A. I have my set up with a trauma plate that I could ADD in front of the soft.

[@bulletmagnet25]

What kind of shitty law would prevent ownership of lifesaving devices?

[@Germfish]

Also sixteen lbs isn't really anything to complain about, the standard weight for just a vest with plates in the U.S. Army is about 45lbs. Not including battle rattle, dudes usually carry close to 100 lbs or over.

[@SmokeRingsPipeDreams]

It is expensive. But how much is your life worth.

[@dwightstewart7181]

+SmokeRingsPipeDreams You’re right. My life is worth a whole bunch, so I want a home built like the Cheyenne Mountain Complex in CO, an army of at least five thousand heavily-armed soldiers to guard me, a convoy of armored vehicles to transport me around town, and so on. Sadly, I can’t *realistically* afford that, so how much is my life *realistically* worth? With any purchase, even a small one, the benefit must be weighed against the cost. At the moment, the chance of me (notice myself only here) encountering a situation where chest (not body) armor would truly save my life is so very unlikely, a bullet-resistant vest just isn’t worth the cost to me. Even the video author’s vest hasn’t, so far, served it’s intended purpose (stopping a bullet at him), and I’m not around shooters nearly as often as he apparently is. Don’t get me wrong. If you want a vest and can afford it, it’s certainly not my place to dissuade you. However, it’s not really my place to persuade either.

[@SmokeRingsPipeDreams]

***** I can't afford one either, but I wish I could.

[@IPWNFORCHEESE]

***** Well you just like to shove logic down the shitter, now don't you? xD

[@JohnnyBoyCali]

***** So because the videos author hasnt been shot at yet its not a useful product? Thats like saying since I havent had a car accident in over a decade I should cancel my insurance. Besides your whole argument is ignorant. That home you described and and all those armed soldiers LITERALLY would cost millions of dollars. I just recently bought an eagle spc rig with 2 ar 500 plates for only 250 bucks total. If you look online on classified sites like backpage or craiglist lots of guys sell them for a great price.

[@dwightstewart7181]

JohnnyBoyCali Oh, good grief. Stop twisting my words, jerk. I never said anything at all similar to “because the videos author hasn’t been shot at yet its not a useful product.” I simply pointed out the video author as one part of *MY* thinking of why a vest isn’t worthwhile *TO ME*. To repeat, I’m just not in situations, where a vest would be useful, often enough to justify the cost. That includes situations the video author used as examples. Actually, to expand on that (since you provided the opportunity), I really don’t see a whole lot of situations where a bullet-resistant vest would be useful *TO ME*. I’m certainly not going to run around the house or the yard, or even around town (stores, etc), with a vest on. I’m just not that paranoid yet. And, if a bad guy breaks in at night, there’s only a slim chance I’ll have time to dress up in tactical gear. And, no, I’m not sleeping in the vest either. In the end, it’d just be a waste of money - that conclusion should really give you conniptions. LOL.

[@mr.whiskers1333]

Thank you for reviewing this product. As a member of an ERT Team, that is VERY low budget, I find myself buying most of my own gear. This is even more evident when the equipment is critical ie weapons, body armor, plate carriers, blow out kits. I am very interested in more reviews like this.

[@Swagmoney696]

I cant afford any of this stuff. Im a college kid dude lol.

[@RJM1011]

+Nick Jacobs I got mine with tin cans $$$$$$$$$$$

[@curlyrai1511]

It's nice to of someone like you fighting for us as far as the pricing goes. You don't have to, but you do and I thank you. Thank you for all you do for us, the nutnfancy brigade.

[@matthewalford2762]

Mr. Fancy... i must respectfully disagree. I literally agree with about 99.98% of your philosophy and thinking but on this one i must say i think going with the highest level of protection is best. If your gonna be a sheepdog that is mentally and emotionally committed to action to defend your fellow Americans/Constitution if and when that day should arises skimping on the body armor will be an unwise move. This is our life we are talking about here. Pony up a little more cash and go with the multi round level 4 with a rear trauma pad, back plate and side plates. Is it gonna suck moving in this kit... yes, but thats why its called" the suck"... If we ever have to strap on a plate carrier it means shit just got real and its time to stop bitching and go to worj. This same philosophy should extend to your rifle... the AR15 while fun to shoot is not a battle rifle or caliber. C39V2, Arsenal AK's, FAL, SCAR, some AR's etc... in 7.62. If your gonna spend the money why limit you capabilities on both defense and offense. I junked all of my AR15's and evolved to the 7.62... Lastly there are some really nice 100% American AK's on the market right now, check em out.

[@wigon]

For soft body protection, I use two layers. The first being a Level IIA police type vest that I picked up at a pawnshop for $90 and the second being a never used PASGT vest over that. I also practice close quarter drills in my house wearing the PASGT vest while holding the Level II vest in my non-firing hand that is also supporting my pistol or shotgun and is a shield of sorts. They key is installing interior locked doors along with a good dog and or alarm system to buy time to put it all on.

[@DarthVato2010]

LOL...."Neighborhood Watch!" Is this the George Zimmerman model?

[@DarthVato2010]

Thanks for stating the obvious 8 months later.

[@wifiwaves]

I have changed the attack protocol to neck/head and upper thigh/hip joint/femoral artery shots. No one can take those shots and not be stopped for a few moments...enough for you to advance and finish the issue. Consider the presentation aspect with the target being turned sideways, offering up the exposed areas under the arm down through the rib cage. Take spine shots when presented with this aspect. Blasting away on plates is essentially useless...as is using toy guns like 5.56/.223.

[@georgebush3401]

that moment you realize nutn is a cop

[@MrRicard75]

Hey Nutnfancy thanks for taking the time and effort to introduce us to this revolutionary product. I love all of your videos and have learned a lot from you. Thank you for your service to our great country.

[@ericm1839]

i like what this video does. wish this shit wasnt so expensive (college kid and whatnot) but it is an interesting theory

[@Toolness1]

+Eric Miesbauer I hear you, it is definitely expensive. I've seen tests done on old soft armor, there's pics floating around of 11 year old vests stopping multiple 9mm rounds and a 12 gauge slug from 2 feet away. So you may check into used armor on places like Ebay. It might not be the best, but it's better than none and should be much cheaper.

[@97Chebbie]

Thanks for scoring the deal for us, Nutn. I'm doing this backwords. Plate carriers were always the affordable part and I hadn't yet created a system around one because the plates were so costly. This video and deal finally made me jump. Thanks again.

[@prepper1126]

Nutn, I remember asking you about how you felt about civillians with body armor sometime ago and never got a response. I know your a busy man and im glad i finally got an answer. Great video as always, God bless.

[@jwmstub]

Fantastic tech!!!..as LEO I wear IIIA soft on duty..for sh*t storms I keep a plate carrier with extra mags, cuffs, trauma kit ready to go..problem is the thing is heavy!!..combine the 27+ lbs around my waist and a 3lb bucket on my head..somewhat cumbersome when you need to maneuver or God forbid, extracting downed brothers/sisters...I will get these plates to swap out the old heavy ones..bravo Nutn for bringing this tech to light..bravo sir..

[@stupidburp]

Take a look at how steel targets react to getting hit by bullets. They fall down but do not go flying with any significant energy. Sometimes they even fail to fall down if they are a bit heavy for the caliber used. As for ceramic tiles, they certainly can't be trusted to stop bullets but on the other hand some have stopped some calibers when tested in layers or when backed by another material. Mythbusters tested some fabric backed 1 inch bathroom tile in layers and it did stop some calibers.

[@Ech0Sierra]

As to your first point, 20 year old kevlar has been tested to handle the full threat level it was originally rated for. Expiration only occurs with moisture contact. If the inner panel was dry underneath the moisture seal outer, then the kevlar shouldn't expire. Any warranties are legally obligated to exist and are around 5 years simply for the sake of convenience.

[@Screwball216]

Yes, they do. I'm running a standard plate in the back, and a shooter's cut in the front. In regards to side plates, I just ordered two 5"x7" plates for the side pockets. They are an inch higher than the standards, but I was worried that the 6"x8" wouldn't fit due to thickness (don’t want to modify the MOPC; will be ran with the longer dimension going vertical). Even though there was a long wait, I'm very happy with the Level 3 DKX plates. Thanks to nutnfancy for putting this out there.

[@law0306]

It takes 10 to 12 months of training for a Marine to get used to his 40 to 50 pound body armor rig. this is wearing this grea 8 hours a day about one to two weeks a month doing training. Even then you hit country and it takes a month to get used to the heat and ground. you must train...train and train to be able to use this set up. Great video keep them coming. big fan.

[@nutnfancy]

Working mostly. Still got a career to curate on the side. More stuff is coming. -Doodle

[@garygrady000]

Great video brother! I have held off from buying armor because of the cost. Now there are great companies making armor that most people can afford. While in the Navy, I ALWAYS had armor on at the range (range coach) it just makes sense! Thanks for all your research!

[@chopinbloc]

There are some high speed videos available of steel plates being struck by bullets. There is virtually no deformation. Actually, a heavy blunt object can easily carry as much foot pounds as a firearm projectile. A 20 lb sledge hammer swung at 60 ft/sec produces about 1,100 ft/lbs. A .357 mag produces about 600 ft/lbs. M855 5.56mm produces about 1,200 ft/lbs.

[@RichWalk11]

Drop-ability is a very useful and underrated attribute of a plate, especially in a tactical plate. If you're having to slide around, hit the deck tacking cover, slamming into concrete etc... the last thing on your mind is the damage/integrity of your plate, even though it could prove vital to survival.

[@alfredlansing7815]

This is a terrific video. I haven't really spent very much time thinking about body armor, but I will now. Excellent information packed in here. I think this is your best video yet. Your channel is really getting good. Thanks.

[@GNCAaron]

I'll stay gray as far into WROL as I can. That means no tac vest or rifle. I hope you present a concealable level 2 or 3A vest option soon. Many thanks for all you've done for us over the past 5 years.

[@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel]

I called and asked them about shelf life she said that it will last a long time just for some reason that wasn't substantial at the time or I would remember now that they put the date on the plate. I'm going to order just saving up the 1k . I want to use it for home D, and at the rifel and training ranges.

[@aveighter4430]

Hi NF. I'm sitting here at KSLC waiting on the bus. There is a gas station taxiing for departure. Made me think of you. Beautiful here, now I have a greater appreciation for your vids. I'm envious!

[@DLAdventures2]

Thanks for all of the great info Nutn! I am not sure that body armor will be in my near future, but I will give it much more consideration now. So many things that need addressing in my systems right now that body armor was not on my mind. After finding TNP last year I have addressed much that I was lacking, but still a long, long way to go. Having my first kid on the way complicates things too, but motivates greatly as well.

[@stupidburp]

These would be a great backup option in case your primary plate was damaged by either rough handling or even taking a few hits. Less of a concern with the polyethylene plates which are pretty durable for rough handling anyways but definitely a concern with ceramic plates which can be seriously damaged just by dropping them on the floor.

[@bingo45100]

At the 2012 shot show I spent a lot of time among the body armor vendors This year I was not able to attend so found this video very interesting and informative. Thanks.

[@sharontony]

The "trauma plate", at least when they were newer products twenty years ago when I was still a cop, were not intended to stop bullets. They were a supplement to the bullet-resistant kevlar and were intended to protect against pointed weapons like knives, which can punch right through kevlar. Perhaps modern kevlar is now more resistant to knives, but that's what the metallic plates were originally used for.

[@davk003]

I carry a M&P 9c. I was debating between the 9c and 45c originally. Decided on the 9c due to my other 2 considerations. Cost to practice and capacity. I also own a 1911 in 45, and it definitely hurts the wallet to shoot. 9mm is much more affordable. And as a defense pistol, its something you are going to want to practice with a lot. As far as capacity the 45c has 8rds and the 9c has 12. Doesnt seem like a big difference, being only 4rds, but percentage wise its quite significant.(cont)

[@deadfish86]

Hey Nutnfancy, I think you need a clarification... Spalling is not only fragmentation material from the back of the plate, but "splash" off the front of the plate from the impacting round itself. Hard plates, depending upon construction, can cause a round to disintegrate upon impact, just like if one was shooting a steel plate. If the impacted target is a chest plate, typical spall wounds could include fragmentation injuries to the lower chin/jaw and forearms.

[@KageRyuu6]

Nutnfancy may not care about bulk too much, but with prior service I can tell you, when you're at the range or in the prone in a fire fight, you don't want a 1/2" of material between you and the ground, let alone an 1", not only does it make it more difficult to get into a proper shooting position, but without padding it can be quite fatiguing if not down right painful. So if you expect to be shooting from the prone a lot, consider a thinner material option for your level 3 or 4 needs.

[@Texaroni1231]

I purchased a US Palm a while back for the same reason. I got "muzzled" during a goose hunt one day when someone fell. My life flashed before my eyes; luckily nothing happened. It came with soft armor but I need to work on getting some ceramic plates for it...good vid

[@TeamODA162]

Some fatoids: Dyneema if you think you will encounter water, swimming etc. UHDP's usually are very water resistant and have a density close or below that of water (you float). Best material for a marine environment. Polyaramid (Kevlar) is much heat resistant and is usually i component in FR clothing. However the protection level may be lowered when contact with water. *If you get hit by a riffle round when wearing IIIA you will most likely sustain more injures than when wearing no bodyarmor

[@JonnieHammaStix]

picked up a shooters cut plate to square away my system since I currently have nothing integrated at the moment. Thanks for the reviews Nutn. Helping us spend our money wisely haha

[@Ech0Sierra]

Note that nonhybrid plates that are pure Dyneema/UHMWPE are NOT rated to stop XM855/M855 green tip SS109 light steel penetrator 5.56 NATO. Those plates require hybridization with an outer layer of ceramic or steel in order to defeat those rounds. Examples are the AMI TAC3S that uses MARS 300 (AR650) steel on top of Dyneema or the Tencate TenH/TAP Gamma+ plates that use ceramic oxide/carbide on top of Dyneema.

[@TheRussellComer]

The plates used as demo from hits has deforms that appear pushed back in. Liquid on kevlar, porcelain dragon, these still look like compressed fiberglass with a resin.

[@daos1]

The chip is optional and programmable. Best guess would be owner info in cases of theft or maybe to expedite a warranty claim situation.

[@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel]

On Thursday of last week I called DKX and spoke with a nice lady over the phone . She answered all of my questions about the LevelIII armor, and she said that they had just relieved an a delivery of the armor in for their paid customers. Hang in there guys its coming! Two other things , one DKX is going to release their own plate carrier in May and the staff at the time was Out Shooting! How cool is that!! :)

[@andychanny]

I think this was a outstanding video. Personally, I own some ar500 F+B plates and will soon be getting some 6x6 side plates. They were affordable and although they are 7.5lbs each I have to just grit my teeth and keep pushing. Prone, to kneeling to standing it is an insane work out. Another reason I have chosen steel plates is because they are multi hit rated. I planned on buy the soft armor sides but when I watched a video of slug rounds vs soft armor I decided the extra weight would be worth it. Great video. It was educational, not just a lecture on your gear and you.

[@wolfman011000]

Don't forget a kevlar helmet in WROL situation, pretty useless against rifle rounds but will save your head from pistol rounds. What about combining the soft armor with DKX to increase protection ? soft over the top of the DKX?

[@theadjustedamerican]

Grazie, NUTN. Ordered 2 shooters cut IIIA plates plus a spare MOPC for this lady that puts up with me. I really wanted to go all out and get 2 full sets of III but Putin's been throwin' a grip of hardware my way lately. My cheddar's been all over that stuff, especially in light of my current endeavors into common sense. These plates are ridiculously awesome, we're getting into the "Star Trek' level of tacticool these days. FWIW, I was sportin' your "Make It Count" tee today. Damn fine tee.

[@jaket.9193]

Many good points. My cousin lost is life when I was 5 years old because his best friend handed him a pistol in an unsafe manner and it discharged shooting him thru the heart.

[@XRinger]

Check the out weight for the M14/M1A stock. One owner called his archangel/M1A a "Range Queen". Too heavy to lug out to the boonies.

[@kfgrip]

I just got me a set(front,back plate)of AR500 stand alone plates for 79 Bucks,and these bad boys are NICE.They are even powder coated to keep from rusting,and they are comfort cut for a right handed shooter and are NOT flat plates(they are curved). I Got them from a very reputable plate maker who was selling extra plates on ebay.They have nice beveled edges so as not to cut into my plate carrier.I just need to get some soft armor inserts to put around them just to be safe and help with Spalling!

[@Toyman07]

The 5.7 and the 4.6×30mm used in the HK MP7, even the military rounds (except the MP7 is a proprietary round EG no civilian round) are both about the equivalent of 17 winmag. Hence why the P90 and MP7 have such high cyclic rates and large ammo capacity and their only used for CQB type stuff. In my army reserve job Im a weapons instructor. We teach the MP7 and have tested the P90. Their basically high velocity varmint rounds hence why you need to shoot a lot at a high rate of fire when engaging.

[@dkem0691]

I agree somewhat nutn, but if it hit the fan, idk if that is what I would want. When I was deployed and we left the wire I was very happy to have my armor that stopped rifles. Keep up the great vids.

[@hansjurgen]

If I'm wearing hard armor (which is invariably less comfortable than soft) I'm gonna just pony up the weight difference and get rifle protection. If I'm wearing soft armor I'd like for it to potentially be concealable (hence my plate carrier carries plates, and my soft armor is concealable and can be worn with an independent chest rig)

[@WatchMyMadness]

I think you'd be surprised Nutnfancy; I wore the old IBA with threat level 4 plates all throughout my deployment. After about a month of wear you hardly even notice the weight. It just takes some time to get used to it.

[@Sk8co]

My rifle plates from iraq floated also. they weighed a ton but they floated. We did some roll over into water drills and we had to have a second person push the person down under the water because we just floated to the surface. (yes that can ruin the plates so we had to use a set group of plates that were already water damaged)

[@AaronAlso]

OK yes if someone is shooting at you from an upward angle there is "chance" that a round could slip between the plates and penetrate the armor. (greater the angle higher the risk) I believe that the benefits of mobility and more coverage out-weight this risk. This is just my opinion but the only serious flaw I see with Dragonskin is the weight.

[@timesjudge]

Nope. They just released them with a protective coating called Line-X that eliminates spalling and frag. Coating is standard on all new plates, or if you have old plates they have a sleeve that you can fit over.

[@74Hobbes]

2yrs!??! HOLY CRAP TIME FLIES! Thanks bro! This is a great review and SUPER smart for wearing the armor when you do. Thanks for all you do for us Nutn!

[@ILruffian]

Nutn, thanks for the review (very informative) and pricing. As other TNP'ers have already pointed out in the comments, pure Dyneema plates do NOT defeat M855 (mild steel core 5.56). What makes this such a significant issue is that MASSIVE amount of this ammo has been sold as surplus over the years all over the US. If it weren't for M855, I would be all over this deal--like NOW. Regrettably, that ammo is the monkey in the wrench.

[@pittwm]

After watching your review, I placed an order for a set of the DKX pistol plates from PFI. I was told it would be 10-14 days from order ( ordered and paid on 3/19). Well I still got no plates and no reply from email inquiry twice and a phone call and message left to them went unanswered. Just FYI.

[@stupidburp]

Up to level 3A (large pistol caliber protection) is legal in the U.S. and can be exported. Levels 3 and 4 (rifle caliber protection) are also legal in the U.S. but are subject to export restrictions. Convicted felons are just about the only ones not allowed by law to buy body armor. The best readily available body armor product I know of is Goldshield based armor which is very light and thin compared to traditional kevlar vests but expensive. Check it out and judge for yourself.

[@guardcompany]

Good to hear. Regardless of my opinion on this situation, thank you for coming on and answering everyone's concerns.

[@cynic5581]

Excellent review as usual! I run heavy level 4 rifle plate currently and train to use it but its hheeaavvyy regardless of physical training. However I run plates that can defeat what I'm going to carry in a WROL situation. Which I'll definitely have some AP rounds on me. Certainly going to look into this though, thanks!

[@TheIronClooch]

Shoot, that's amazing that you can have that level of protection in something that lightweight. The sapi plates we wear weigh about the same as that plate you showed early in the video. Throw in two side sapis and you get a really heavy rig. Hell, you could even stack those and get better protection with less weight.

[@devonkeim]

As far as I know it wont give any rifle protection, even lvl 3 and 4 plates usually require lvl 3a soft armor behind them to actually be considered lvl 3 or 4. Other than stand alone lvl 3 or 4.

[@Toyman07]

Also according to the BATF has their own definition of what is AP for rifles there are exceptions as it depends on the metal type, thickness and core material etc So what you may think is AP or advertised as such may not be according to the BATF and what makes it even more confusing is it varies by state as well BUT this only goes for rifle rounds and most I see are not true AP military rnds. But for pistols it's a out right fed offense, it does not matter what it may contain so be aware.

[@donsmith6602]

Just put in an order for some body armor for work from quartermaster. Yesterday I got an e-mail from them saying they needed proof of occupation. Wasn't a problem but if your not LE or private security QM won't sell it to you.

[@aaronrun]

Thanks for the updated body armor vid Nutn. I'm stoked to hear you've changed your philosophy regarding civilian ownership. The purpose of the 2nd amendment was to protect a citizen's right to EQUAL armament of an infantry soldier. The government does not deserve special exemptions. Keep up the good work bud.

[@QuantumhighWW]

Yes still waiting on a tracking number etc. Right now it looks like a 6+ week wait to have in hand. I still need to order side plates, I better place an order soon.

[@JosephStokes87]

Love this video, THANK YOU. People often think body armor is illegal for civilians and I HIGHLY recommend body armor for anyone who runs and guns, runs courses or even just goes to the range.

[@MarvinCZ]

In the footage the level III plate was shown surviving a regular 30-06 round, that is pretty comparable to 7.62x54R. It's still just ball, not AP.

[@dabNtx]

I know right, its ridiculous.. Be safe while out on the lake and always carry a long gun and a side arm in the boat. After all it is legal to carry fire arms in your boat in the great state of Texas Glad to hear you made it out of your sticky situation, have a nice one!

[@DonQuixotec]

I have no experience with these but I do have experience with body armor. In my law enforcement job we have a vest with one layer of soft plate that stops pistol rounds (about 9 mm), but it does not protect very well against slashes with knife, or hits with baseball bats. So on top of the soft plate we have a metal plate as well for that purpose. So based on that information and that the plates in these videos are hard, I think they will protect well against slash and penetrations with knife.

[@tnpbro]

Also, firearmsprostore has great pricing on a ton of stuff. They have Saiga AK's for $719 which is $80 less than JG Sales.

[@highonimmi]

ide wrap some insulating/heat reflective material around it. just like the old flak vest would be shyte after getting wet. gotta take care of ure kit/gear. that's a fact:) thanks for the heads up.

[@tuckinauster]

Check out RMA supply. They use ceramic technology, but they sell level III stand alone plates for $150, and level IV stand alone plates for $200.

[@dragontemplarhomestead7313]

Love the reviews it always help in the selection process. I ordered the AR500 package. I am waiting on its arrival. I hope I never have to find out if it works but I am glad we still have the right to have it. Thanks for all you do

[@GrnEagle1]

nice time to update my second chance vest. i took my armor out of the vest and put it in tac vest.mine is level3A paid 500.00 in 2001.

[@dsabusmc]

Great Video Nutn, I understand your reasoning on not running the plates all of the time because of the weight/mobility issues that may come up, but I like to run my armor with the plates in just so I can train the same way I fight, so I can get my body stronger and accustomed to conducting drills and movements with the extra weight. I think not running the plates may be a disadvantage. Just my two cents though still a great and informative video.

[@PFIDude]

Thanks for the reply. It is no secret that we are very small operation compared to some of our competition, but we value every one of our customers and work hard to provide the best service and products. The state of the industry along with amazing response to new products has us playing catch up. We are in the process of moving to a new location, allowing us to expand as necessary.

[@caddilacjim]

Great video Nutn.You say the plates are expensive but when your life is been threatened in whatever scenario money doesn't matter your life does.

[@slobra3000]

Nutnfancy thank you very much for all of your hard work. I really appreciate your reviews and its products like these that I would have never found without your assistance that I’m truly appreciative of. This is exactly what I was looking for and honestly, I was having a hard time finding a product like this. Just ordered front and rear plates this morning and I’m looking forward to receiving them. Hope we never need them...

[@KageRyuu6]

to fracture one of those and you won't likely get as good of results with level 3 ceramic as you would with level 3 steel. Though the trade off is weight obviously, steel is gonna weigh more, which makes you slower, while the ceramic is fragile and fairly bulky. As for Polyethylene, like the stuff DKX sells, I dono, from the looks of it, it actually catches the bullet inside the casing, meaning less chance for ricochet, but also higher chance of penetration through. All in all as Nutnfancy said

[@budojon]

i like the german molle idz body armor. ways 12.5kg with ceramic plates and class4 protection, also includes protection against shrapnel.

[@GRACEVENTURES]

getting squared away is expensive huh? totally gonna be worth it. im 23 and just getting started, lots to learn and your videos make it much easier. wanna be capable of being a sheepdog for my community if ever needed.(i pray never) i feel ive always had the heart of one. thats why "the sheepdog concept" really hit home. THANKS NUTTINFANCY. i consider you to be doing a service to sheepdogs everywhere

[@KageRyuu6]

While steel or even titanium (if you can afford it), tends to collapse or completely deflect, creating relatively small concave craters around the impact zone without affecting the structural integrity of the rest of the plate like a ceramic one would. However, unlike a ceramic plate, steel/titanium plates can also deflect the round completely without deforming, which may not be desirable as you will not be able to control where the now massively deformed round is sent after impact.

[@0150r]

There seems to be a lot of new Level IIIA armor coming out. AR500 Carbon Nanotube, Spartan Armor UHMWPE hard and semi-flexible armor are a few examples. Both companies have options at $300 (or less) for a pair of plates. Any plans on testing some of the new products?

[@PFIDude]

We have sent out multiple emails with details regarding the DKX orders and associated delays. We just shipped hundreds of plates last week with more shipping this week.

[@flamedrag18]

having two of the IIIA plates back to front would be a interesting test to see how effective it would be, but the cost would be prohibitive, maybe get a kickstarter style funds collection to get this test done? see just how effective it would be? I'm sure the TNP can help and to see this test done by nutnfancy, I'd contribute for sure.

[@Toyman07]

Yup body armor is a must in any carbine or pistol class. I use one for work as I work in LE and heavier armor in the military reserves. 5 years ago I got hit by a new German army recruit where a 5.56 round ricocheted of a rock and hit me in the lower left of my torso. Even in US Ive been to ranges where new shooters actually have shot other people by mistake on the line. My 2 daughter's have started entering in pistol competitions and they wear em. Nowadays you can hardly feel em level depending

[@RichWalk11]

The 3A definitely won't and it's unlikely the level 3 will as usually a level 4 plate deals with armour penetrating rounds, which is what a steel core round is. The Level 3 will stop standard rifle rounds and pistol rounds (i.e. your standard FMJ rounds.)

[@BYLRPhil]

Why not put some links in the description to places to buy this kind of body armor? All I could find with google was large body armor, no plate inserts.