I bought mine after I watched MrGunsnGear shoot the absolute PISS out of these plates, but I will absolutely accept a second opinion from IV8888
@Refrigerator_3 жыл бұрын
I have to say, I trust the opinion of IV8888 more than mrgunsngear. That’s just my opinion since I’ve been following him longer than gng.
@brettcasto33563 жыл бұрын
Same here!!!
@fujimi7153 жыл бұрын
@@Refrigerator_ they are both legitimate when it comes to firearms and armor.
@556RF3 жыл бұрын
Check out Buffman Range. He does real good reviews he shows actual data
@UncleWermus3 жыл бұрын
@@Refrigerator_ I wouldn't say I trust one more than the other, I've been following them both about the same amount of time. It's just that when I was in the market for plates, MrGnG had already done his review. That was over a year ago.
@thenotoriousrvh60913 жыл бұрын
If your being shot at with a 30/06 at 10ft don't take your EX wife hunting.
@JoeGarofaloII3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment 👍
@narutobroken3 жыл бұрын
Ain't that the truth
@ragnarmjolnir96543 жыл бұрын
Bwahahaha😂🤣😂🤣
@1timerod3 жыл бұрын
Facts💯
@STB-jh7od3 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@6daemonic63 жыл бұрын
People hate these plates because they need to justify spending 3-5x as much on a different brand
@SavageGunFighter213 жыл бұрын
You really don't have to spend that much more on certified plates.
@Buddha23Fett3 жыл бұрын
My first set of NIJ certified plates was only about $100 more than this. My latest set cost way more because it was thinner and extremely light. At only 6.5lbs for a large SAPI plate. Which puts them as 2lbs lighter than my other ceramic plates.
@samueljardine34023 жыл бұрын
For $135 you can get an RMA level IV nij certified plate that's made in America.
@archstanton16283 жыл бұрын
The vast majority of this stuff is bought by people who have zero need for it in the first place, level IV body armor to wear while grocery shopping smh. 100 bucks is fine.
@Buddha23Fett3 жыл бұрын
@@archstanton1628 you say that but I’ve actually used mine.
@JoeGarofaloII3 жыл бұрын
"The plate either stops the bullet or it doesn't" I mean that seems like a good test to me!
@Halal_Dan3 жыл бұрын
Sample size of 1, lol good enough for lifesaving equipment I guess.
@JoeGarofaloII3 жыл бұрын
@@Halal_Dan technically 2, but yes I see your point. You're free to buy a few dozen of those and shoot them with multiple 30-06 black tips and record it for all of us if you like
@BuffRANGE3 жыл бұрын
@@JoeGarofaloII as long as the manufacturer is continuing to do this, then that's fine and dandy. That's what NIJ CPL ensures. Without that, as long as the manufacturer is keeping quality checks in place, great!
@SR-wz2iv3 жыл бұрын
@@BuffRANGE since you probably don't hear this enough, THANK YOU for your replies and your videos and others 👍
@BuffRANGE3 жыл бұрын
@@SR-wz2iv You're welcome!
@brucebelvin20583 жыл бұрын
He blinded me with science. SCIENCE.
@americanpatriot69183 жыл бұрын
You just got that little jingle stuck in my head! Thanks alot!😂🤣
@shallnotcomply64793 жыл бұрын
You think he is gonna put a bra on his head and build a woman
@charlesrichardson23723 жыл бұрын
Bum bum buuuuuum bum..... SCIENCE
@alamedaslim94383 жыл бұрын
@Sgg Ffgg That Christ is the savior of your poor soul
@thisworldtoday55553 жыл бұрын
lol
@NessNik3 жыл бұрын
I bought 3 plates shot 1 with big fast rounds like 6.5 Creedmoor and .300wsm and 300PRC.......it stopped all at 50 yards ...so I wear them with confidence
@coreymoyers3 жыл бұрын
The 5.7 ammo cost more than the armor
@jamesgates10743 жыл бұрын
I like how he wears a lab coat into the woods to shoot stuff...
@ragnarmjolnir96543 жыл бұрын
SCIENCE!!! 😂🤣😂🤣👍
@alec_f13 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Just like a medical press conference on the White House lawn!
@zombierider85motovlogs363 жыл бұрын
It's a call back to Barry
@Britspence3813 жыл бұрын
One of my dogs wears a lab coat everywhere she goes.
@jrow97668 ай бұрын
Because he’s a professional!
@johnsmithfakename84223 жыл бұрын
Rifle protection is getting cheaper and lighter. A decade ago this plate might have cost $900, now it is $100. This is very interesting.
@fajile51093 жыл бұрын
The lvl 4 helmet was 3000$ when i first saw it. Its 1400$ now.
@Ronin_Noir3 жыл бұрын
5.11 has level IV multi hit plates that weigh 2 lbs each. Too bad they cost $400-$500 dollars each
@Buddha23Fett3 жыл бұрын
@@Ronin_Noir there is no level IV plate on the market that weighs 2lbs.
@Buddha23Fett3 жыл бұрын
@@fajile5109 there is no such thing as a level IV helmet.
@PotzyMccoy2 жыл бұрын
Hell, a decade ago plates were twice this weight too.
@tylerdemko23463 жыл бұрын
I have a set of these im supper happy with them and this makes me feel even better about them
@JESTR_ACTUAL3 жыл бұрын
Same
@JESTR_ACTUAL3 жыл бұрын
@Not Me these things are awesome for the price. And you can't beat the weight. Plus, that foam on the edges provides a tight fit in the plate bags, so no wiggle during maneuvers
@darknature793 жыл бұрын
@Not Me I just ordered a some gts lvl 3 plates,one 2 weeks ago then 1 last week then a day later find out they'll stop the lead at rounds but not ap rounds so I ordered one of these battle steel level 4 plates to use in the front of my carrier,I hope they ship it fast cause I just read some stories about their shipping time and items marked in stock but not. And it taking 3 months some times before they'll cancel the order for refund. One guy said he got one at the $99 price same day they raised the price so they told him they were out of stock but then he called acting like he was a new customer and they said they were in stock.
@darknature793 жыл бұрын
@Not Me they just name these battle steel.
@darknature793 жыл бұрын
@Not Me I wasn't talking about steel at all,the boatch ceramic and pe plates are named battle steel,I just ordered one of the level 4 battle steel ceramic plates.
@andrewstoll45483 жыл бұрын
IV8888: I don't have an M1 Garand. Internet hate engaged......
@chemistryofquestionablequa62523 жыл бұрын
@RogerWilco99 yeah, definitely thought he'd have one.
@wesblittle13 жыл бұрын
And don’t forget.. you will be on your back sucking wind after taking one of those shots wearing anyone’s armor.. let’s just not get shot by multiple mall assassins at Walmart boys .. lol
@Scruffy-LookingNerfHerder3 жыл бұрын
Yep. And the chances of them having black tip .30-06 are basically zero.
@IntenseSpirit3 жыл бұрын
Chances of being shot by M193 or M995 seem to go up every day.
@BullsMahunny3 жыл бұрын
@@Scruffy-LookingNerfHerder Depends. The army almost exclusively trains with M995. There was also a shooting a few days ago in Chicago with an honest to God Automatic weapon. It was a gang shooting in broad daylight in traffic, sure, but it was still an automatic. So if people can get their hands on one of those, it wouldn't be a stretch to see some M995 going missing and ending up on the black market.
@Buddha23Fett3 жыл бұрын
@@BullsMahunny the army doesn’t exclusively train with M995. What are you even talking about?
@JoeGarofaloII3 жыл бұрын
Oh dang, that was an actual full auto P90! I was expecting to be here a while watching all 50 rounds go down range lol
@shadowcard69233 жыл бұрын
“Wrong end of the secret service”, you know, forgot that was a thing for a bit, could be modern gestapo soon I guess
@Wearyman3 жыл бұрын
THIS. I strongly suspect that should any citizen who owns body armor actually have it save them anytime in the next few years, it will be from a government owned gun fired by a Gestapo wanna-be.
@michaelbaker82843 жыл бұрын
Don't defame the honest men of the Gestapo by comparing them to DC swamp creatures.
@Wearyman3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbaker8284 :D :D :D
@marblemarble71133 жыл бұрын
@@Wearyman if the "gestapo" is after you then you wont get the chance to wear body armor
@Wearyman3 жыл бұрын
@@marblemarble7113 This is what early warning systems, staging and practice are for. Practice getting your gear on as fast as possible, have it set up close by (bedroom closet works) so that you can just grab it and toss it on and have your firearms set up with a quick access system. If you have early warning (battery backed up camera systems with audible proximity alerts to your phone and a dog) you will be up and ready. No guarantee you will live, but that's not the point. the point is to make it as painful for the Gestapo as possible. They lose enough good men and they can't keep going after patriots.
@ethan5.563 жыл бұрын
I picked up some level 4 plates from LA Police Gear for around $100 each. Great video as always
@YoutubeLovesCowards3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I have my spartan armor steel plates in a basic carrier as back ups/loved one's armor.
@chadvalliere86973 жыл бұрын
Yep. Mine are LA police gear as well. And I put Spartan trauma pads behind them.
@Gods_Favorite_Subcontractor2 жыл бұрын
@@KZbinLovesCowards Late comment, but be aware of the shrapnel that steel plates will make. If you don't have some hella coating and padding to stop it, your face and legs are gonna get cut up by a bullet impact
@JohnTBlock3 жыл бұрын
Y'all need to paint George before running tests like this... just sayin'.
@Brimwald3 жыл бұрын
Yeah a little spray paint would have made the test results clearer
@calholli3 жыл бұрын
@@Brimwald There were no hole in the back of the plate, you can't get any clearer than that.. (other than the one that got through)
@diogenes53813 жыл бұрын
X4 on that!
@Brimwald3 жыл бұрын
@@calholli the back of the plate was chewed up, it was difficult to see what happened to the plate.
@Ras_al_Gore3 жыл бұрын
The paint is going to get chewed up from backface deformation anyways
@kalashnikovmania20743 жыл бұрын
I have used this armor for about a year now and it saved my spine. Used to use AR500 plates plus side plates.. at only 5 lbs each and able to take black tip 06 I trust it. However during winter shots and classes I don’t just toss the armor around in the back of my truck
@ViktoriousDead2 жыл бұрын
Saved your spine huh
@alexc9434 Жыл бұрын
@@ViktoriousDead he probably means it’s lighter than his previous armor
@BigChiefWiggles3 жыл бұрын
Considering most people buying this are most likely to be shot at by an AR, an AK, 308 ball or some hunting ammo ... this is plenty protection and then some.
@elmaxidelsur3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it would be cool to see it's multi hit stop capabilities in something like 556 from 50 yards just to see a more realistic test... ... That would be cool.
@czarface3 жыл бұрын
@@elmaxidelsur agreed, 556 is the the real threat
@fujimi7153 жыл бұрын
@@elmaxidelsur if it stops black tip 3006, it will stop 556. Easily stop m193 and m855 and will even stop 1 hit from m995 tungsten core on a fresh plate.
@elmaxidelsur3 жыл бұрын
@@fujimi715 yes, I know it will stop them but... How many? will it stop a 556 after you drop it...?? You know, like a regular civilian would handling it??? This won't be used by law enforcement, this will go into some go bag of a ""low budget prepper"" if won't be exchange if drop, it won't be exchange if hit. So... A test line that might interesting to see, I thing.
@fujimi7153 жыл бұрын
@@elmaxidelsur I believe buffman range tested this plate and he drops all the ceramics
@tj_struck3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had these plates for a few years now and absolutely love them. Multi curved and will still everything you throw at it. I knew it was going to stop it, but wasn’t so sure on the edge hit, because you know, it’s at the edge. But I’m happy to see my trust in these work.
@DaveyHo693 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, you won't ever face an offender who has a 30.06 anyway...
@BenjySparky3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully you won't have to face a offender with anything not even a 22! 😆
@thebudgetchad8133 жыл бұрын
@John Beige most hunters will have hollow points so as long as it hits the plate your good
@GladlyKillmore3 жыл бұрын
What a bunch of dumb sub comments. A rifle like a 30-06 is a common hunting rifle, but semi autos are becoming more common. But seeing someone out hunting in a country like the USA with blacktips? You're more likely to find that 2000 pound bear your neighbors friends uncle mentioned he'd seen, while hunting with black tips! Lol. You guys are missing the point of the original comment.
@Gatlinggunman3 жыл бұрын
Coming this holiday season, the AR-30-06.
@grayeaglej3 жыл бұрын
In my area im far more concerned about 5.56 and 9mm from either anti-american government personnel or "Peaceful Protestors" that have raided government supplies on thier way out of the cities.
@azinfidel64613 жыл бұрын
If you read the certification documents carefully you will find that the testing lab certifies the actual plate that was tested. The certification does not apply to any other plate for liability reasons.
@jakejake7162 Жыл бұрын
Almost every plate manufacturer does this because of the insane cost to get a nij certification for each model. Used to be 30,000$ per plate test and I imagine it’s gone up
@ColeDedhand3 жыл бұрын
I feel pretty confident I'm never going to be shot with a 30-06 black tip. But for the price these plates will stop any threat I might ever see.
@fujimi7153 жыл бұрын
Yes most likely will face 556, AK, and 7.62NATO
@mrclaw47153 жыл бұрын
@@fujimi715 didn't know AK was a bullet
@darknature793 жыл бұрын
I just ordered 2 gts pe ceramic plates then found out after that they won't stop 855a1 and was pissed,so I ordered one of these plates just now for $117 shipped to use in the front. Guess you can never have enough armor tho. I got the raptor 3a plates too and they're the best 3a plates for the price out. Both plates weight about 1.5 lbs and that's awesome for 3a.
@Scruffy-LookingNerfHerder3 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s really impressive. And that’s with .30-06 black tip, which is probably a highly unlikely scenario. I think it’s safe to say these plates would shrug off 5.56 or 7.62x39 just fine.
@knoahbody692 жыл бұрын
Who uses 7.62 x 39? That's soooo last century. Also, the army approved and is the process of moving to a 6.8mm rifle. So whatever, wolf warrior.
@Scruffy-LookingNerfHerder2 жыл бұрын
@@knoahbody69 lol I’m sorry no one loves you
@ThatRM250guy2 жыл бұрын
@@knoahbody69 are we going against civilians using 6.8? He’s saying 5.56 since that’s one of the most used rifle rounds especially in the US
@knoahbody692 жыл бұрын
@@ThatRM250guy Whatever, wolf warrior. Keep pushing your false narrative and you will get banned.
@ThatRM250guy2 жыл бұрын
@@knoahbody69 is wolf warrior your role playing name? Also ban me, let me guess your dad owns KZbin? You’re just upset that I called you out on something that made you look stupid. “Wolf warrior” sooooo last century🤦🏽♂️
@calholli3 жыл бұрын
I bought LAPG level 4 plates (LA Police Gear) for $104 each... It's also a composite, but with different materials... Even the level 3+ plates they make pass the level 4 test, so they are nice plates... I bought 2 sets.
@SWebb-tg1ki3 жыл бұрын
I almost did and then saw these. Thickness here is only .8 inches each, I think lapg is over 1.1 inches each, so these are thinner allowing for more maneuvering.
@clrkkdd123 жыл бұрын
@@SWebb-tg1ki I'm deciding between the two right now. That's what I'm thinking about 🤔
@pewpewwithtodd80773 жыл бұрын
It's better that wet phone books taped together lol
@nmallory42 Жыл бұрын
I started following a new company called GTS that makes body armor. He shows how his plates are made and makes educational material on how it’s constructed and the chemistry that goes into the ceramics. But, one thing he showed is that even on the high end products of ceramic plates they don’t bring the ceramic all the way to the edge but leave up to an inch away and filled in with foam. I just bought his level IV plates and side plates and I’m extremely happy with the purchase
@Gldn10173 жыл бұрын
The hipoint of body armor Edit that first corner shot legit flew back and left sparks in the air
@calholli3 жыл бұрын
no.. It's more like the PSA of body armor.. Cost is cheap but it's good quality and does the job impressively well.
@deltashot56083 жыл бұрын
The plate carrier was cheap and it was made out of cheap fabric. It wouldn't happen if it was made with nylon
@watariovids16453 жыл бұрын
All that crazy stuff you have and you don't have a Garand? Not hating so much as just somewhat shocked.
@tonyestrada67473 жыл бұрын
I think he meant he doesn’t have one with him, he has multiple garands
@tmyfatmufo3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyestrada6747 true. I saw quite a few in his gun collection video a few years back. Like 5 or something
@OX-18563 жыл бұрын
I feel like I remember a video where he said he had sold all that he had
@jduffey3203 жыл бұрын
"Not if he shoots you in the femoral artery" ~Clint Smith 😆
@catburglar10763 жыл бұрын
I just started looking into purchasing armor less than a day ago. This video helped me out a lot. Thanks for doing what you do. 👍🏽
@jrarnold853 жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion, might be worth putting maybe a thin stack of paper or relatively thin cardboard behind the plate carrier. Would definitely make it easier to use the same dummy while determining if you had penetration.
@darknature793 жыл бұрын
Be nice if they had a type of rubber coating over the ceramic tiles that keeps them compressed so they don't just fall apart and fall into the plate.
@realtalk63403 жыл бұрын
Best armor review ever. Efficient and to the point. I watched this after work and shared it 3 times. Thanks for the “straight to the point” review.
@BooDamnHoo3 жыл бұрын
My homemade plates don't spread ceramic damage. Because I use hex tiles so a bullet will only wreck one tile at a time. The damage cannot spread beyond the single tile (2x2 hex).
@toddmiles17243 жыл бұрын
Have you tested your home made plates and do you have a video of how you made them?
@ChevTecGroup3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Okay guy. I'm sure you have so.e super dragon armor. If ceramic armor is built properly and bonded correctly to the backer, the damage is localized to within 2 inches, without sacrificing bullet pass-throughs at an angle and weighing 50% more
@UntamedOutlooks3 жыл бұрын
Test like this you should have that clear human chest gel that I’ve seen you used
@pauperslament34673 жыл бұрын
Ballistics Gel. 👍
@45Trumps93 жыл бұрын
Eric just couldn’t figure out which M1 Garand to shoot. Love that P90.
@Sanwizard13 жыл бұрын
I bought these for each of my family members. For the price, it cant be beat.
@joshstocks61293 жыл бұрын
Is this the same armor as the old botach level 4? Got that for around $80
@themawsjawz_94913 жыл бұрын
Looks like it
@scarface96173 жыл бұрын
can't beat that man!
@nathanflecke96353 жыл бұрын
No they are currently using polyurethane
@snipecox21533 жыл бұрын
But how much it weigh
@calholli3 жыл бұрын
I bought LAPG for $104 on sale... it tests well also. You just have to baby these things.. if you fall on them a lot, they don't last very long.
@DropItLikeItsScott3 жыл бұрын
That was a fantastic review of that piece of armor! probably one of the best armor penetration tests I have seen so far. Great job!
@GunsNBBQ3 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling if someone shot me with 30-06 black tip that I won't have to worry about taking multiple shots to my plate. I'm pretty sure I would drop like I wasn't wearing body armor... that would FREAKING HURT!!!
@Wearyman3 жыл бұрын
I suspect you will wish you were dead. I have a set of these They are heavy (I mean, 10 lbs of just the armor not counting any other gear. Not super light.) But I do feel very protected wearing them. That said, I'd still rather NOT get hit with a Black Tip, thank you very much.
@GunsNBBQ3 жыл бұрын
@@Wearyman you are spot on about that 1 brother!
@sage10893 жыл бұрын
Thank you and IV8888 team for these great videos!
@chiefro73 жыл бұрын
Consider my purchase validated. Great video guys!
@TheKingOfHeartsIV3 жыл бұрын
IV8888 is the last person I would expect to not have a Garand.
@ryan3702 жыл бұрын
I love how he makes it a point to say "it either stops the bullet or it doesn't" then proceeds to score the very first shot a "tie"
@michaeldubya3 жыл бұрын
“We’re not professional scientist”, but stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
@yourfavoritelawnguy2722 Жыл бұрын
I recently bought these exact plates with the purpose of shooting them. both plates i got stopped 2 black tip ap 30-06, and 3-4 m855 rounds, 50 yards, of course the rounds where spaced around in basically a circle. But for $99 i was shook that they didn't fail. I bought 2 more as back up emergency plates or for an extra vest for others who could use protection but not expected to be in direct fire. I have a couple different sets of certified plates for the real deal, but for a first timer, or someone who just wants protection while getting away instead of fighting cheap plates are a worthy trade-off when on a budget and looking to acquire other gear/gun items
@kkorff Жыл бұрын
If you read the official testing protocol for testing body armor, there is set off from the edges , think it's around 1.5 to 2 inches. With steel plates, shots within that margin isn't a big deal, but soft and ceramics can be an issue, a fact that some steel manufacturers point out. If you have an 11x14 ceramic or soft plate, only around 8x11 is actually certified. 8x10 soft plates go down to 5x8. Plan accordingly...
@rodrichamilton35543 жыл бұрын
Only thing with this test is most threats are intermediate cartridges or pistol maybe shotguns at 5 feet sniper rifles are likely to be more distance but to stop most assult rifles and small calibers is more important at point blank
@rodrichamilton35543 жыл бұрын
Check out my homemade armor proto 1 with only 1 tool
@Ufos4dahoes3 жыл бұрын
If you can drop a Ceramic plate & damage the tegrity, then what if you fall off a decent height on your plate?
@Halal_Dan3 жыл бұрын
Part of the NIJ testing requirements is dropping the plate twice on the strike face before the test.
@Bitter_Blueberry3 жыл бұрын
Hehe he. Tegrity.
@mattfleming863 жыл бұрын
If it is a decent height, you die from the fall and no longer have to worry about getting hit.
@Andrew85or3 жыл бұрын
There's one KZbin test of these plates where the tester dropped them a few times before he shot it and still did the job.
@BuffRANGE3 жыл бұрын
@@Andrew85or That's me :D
@SlavikFire3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Eric. It's always nice to watch your videos. Hello to you from Russia
@rlm2010az Жыл бұрын
Great job
@thatoneguy454c2 жыл бұрын
If it will stop a black tip 30 ought 6 you are good to go. Mr. Guns and gear posted a video of this armor stopping a Hornady a tip 50 cal. The blunt trauma probably would have still killed you but it's absolutely insane. I don't care if they're $99 plates all the testing I have seen says that these plates are actually some of the best on the market and some of the lightest.
@gomcse Жыл бұрын
I completely agree! These are 2 to 3 pounds lighter EACH than steel plates costing more. I'm buying mine right now.
@randythomas903 жыл бұрын
Finally armor for the workin class it’s about time
@gregw82353 жыл бұрын
Ok what I would like is a side by side comparison with rma 1155
@Buddha23Fett3 жыл бұрын
Including both being dropped twice from 6ft as the NIJ requires before being shot.
@brettcasto33563 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see!!! Thanks for all the great armor content.
@wootdoo3 жыл бұрын
So this plus a soft level 3 would be great?
@SR-wz2iv3 жыл бұрын
For what? Anything that can get through this can most likely continue to get past soft level 3. A lot of time people will put soft 3a behind hard level 3 or 3+
@cvabuck54893 жыл бұрын
@@SR-wz2iv Because obviously the plate won't absorb any KE.
@wootdoo3 жыл бұрын
@@cvabuck5489 that plus maybe after this plate slows it down the 3a soft will catch it
@jakedewald3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty impressed.
@Soravia3 жыл бұрын
Made in USA Cheapest Level IV light weight armor is from Hudis Tactical
@armedpreacher3 жыл бұрын
Hudis is over $40 more than this armor
@AmazonWebService983 жыл бұрын
@@armedpreacher still not bad
@bonzibuddy68523 жыл бұрын
@@armedpreacher BUT ITS MADE IN AMERICA. AMERICANS NEVER CHEAP OUT, MY DAD TOLD ME SO
@BuffRANGE3 жыл бұрын
Made in the USA, I am not too sure of that.
@thetobaccoguy17513 жыл бұрын
Most of the people that hate on these type plates are those who spent $800 on the "premium" brands.
@JoshNormandy3 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@FunWithGuns3 жыл бұрын
I have two sets and they will do their intended job for me and my gf.
@Gldn10173 жыл бұрын
I buy my wife a set of protection every time I buy just so she's as safe as I am. Regardless if she think she needs it. Better safe than sorry 👍✌
@FunWithGuns3 жыл бұрын
@@Gldn1017 💪🤙👍
@daneblackburn6133 жыл бұрын
I don’t my 4 th kid is due in October
@Wearyman3 жыл бұрын
@@daneblackburn613 I laughed harder than I should have at that one.
@bobbymalcich633 жыл бұрын
thank you for the video!!!! keep up the good work!!!! keep the video's coming!!!
@zacharyjohnson5847 Жыл бұрын
I work for a very small agency in South Louisiana … I run these plates …. That being said, take it for what it’s worth, I I hope I never have to find out if they’re really gonna stop something, but I did buy three of them and myself and a few other officers tested one of the plates out and it held up
@LeperKing14 Жыл бұрын
What rounds did you test?
@lordw96093 жыл бұрын
Cool lab coat 👍 Now I know this is scientifically tested and I can trust the results. Haha thanks for all you guys do!
@s.armitage39633 жыл бұрын
Does it count if it's stacked with other ultralight plates in the carrier?
@wootdoo3 жыл бұрын
Ive seen alot of ex military recommend using a soft 3a vest as a trauma pad behind a plate carrier. I can only imagine this functions the same. I wonder of this plus standard ceramic plate then 3a soft. Granted you better not have to be mobile wearing all that
@Nattleby3 жыл бұрын
@@wootdoo I did see a test where somebody shot 5.56 and 7.62x39 at a 3a soft plate with loaded steel AK magazines in front of it. The loaded mags actually slowed (most of) the bullets down enough for the Kevlar to stop them. Of course some made it through but it was an interesting test.
@takingbacktoxic78983 жыл бұрын
@@wootdoo some ceramic plates are thinner and are only "officially" level 4 with a 3a backing. The plates that the UK Osprey system uses are basically done this way. The idea being exactly that, more overall protection, plus padding, plus saving weight. Hope that helps.
@nhwilkinosn3 жыл бұрын
What I want to see is what happens to level 4 when it sees something like a 300 win mag or 338 Lapua. I know it's not rated to stop them, (and you'd probably wish it didn't) but I still think it would be interesting
@BuffRANGE3 жыл бұрын
Depending on the bulletin level IV will stop 300 win mag and 338LM but back face will be significant. I’ve used both for armor testing
@Thee_Sinner3 жыл бұрын
Y’all should give the dummy a tshirt and have a camera watching it’s back so you can see in slow mo if a round gets through
@FierceMouse3 жыл бұрын
Eric, What's the significance of the 8888 in your handle?
@jimmyavalos60733 жыл бұрын
He made a believer out of me. seeing is believing.
@grim38973 жыл бұрын
Polenar Tactical made the test using Aliexpress plates, which these looks awfully similar. They just used clay to watch energy transfer and it was sooooo cool.
@darknature793 жыл бұрын
Read so bad reviews but ordered mine Saturday and it was marked processing this morning then marked shipped at 3,glad I had a good experience with botach.
@LarsLarsen773 жыл бұрын
That back face deformation would drive your heart through your spine and out of your back.
@Gmar693 жыл бұрын
That black tip is, of course, an armor piercing round.
@thriftysurvivor6117 Жыл бұрын
As far as I see here this armor is a great buy but as is the case with any ceramic plates the problem is when you get to the more powerful rounds, even if the plate prevents penetration, the back deformation still may cause a lethal wound, while the problem with level 4 steel ballistic armor such as AR-500 is the weight. Frankly, I'm not sure this type of armor would prevent lethal wounds as the vest would actually enter the torso. I've seen level 4 ceramic plates placed on a ballistic dummy and though the armor caught the AP rounds the sternum of the dummy was still chattered due to back deformation. The type of damage I saw on the ballistic dummy makes me doubt the likelihood of the wounds caused by the back deformation would be survivable. For that reason,if I were wanting protection against high powered rifle rounds weather AP or not I might opt for metal plates regardless of the weight. Just my two.
@jasontaylor50613 жыл бұрын
Can you do a harsh test on a polyethylene plate?
@jessekaiman51823 жыл бұрын
9:51 aaaaaaaaand, there goes $80
@Twincamsrock3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't use a high point to complete the package..
@mpeugeot3 жыл бұрын
If it hasn't faced the Yeet Cannon, then I don't want to wear it. LOL.
@markottinger3 жыл бұрын
Did you buy the plates or did they send you the plates for testing? Sic semper tyrannis 1775
@coreymoyers3 жыл бұрын
You need to get some clay for your backer to see if there was anything that got through.
@Iraqveteran88883 жыл бұрын
I’m going to integrate clay into some future tests so we can get a better idea
@coreymoyers3 жыл бұрын
@@Iraqveteran8888 a frame from some 2x4 with a plywood backer is all you’ll need. Will also show how much energy is absorbed by the armor by the cavity it forms in the flattened clay.
@michaelbaker82843 жыл бұрын
The good news is he lives in Georgia, the ground is pretty much clay.
@BuffRANGE3 жыл бұрын
@@Iraqveteran8888 Please make sure you use a Roma #1 Plastalina clay or at least some form of non hardening oil based clay.. AKA copy the box I use on my channel ;)
@Buddha23Fett3 жыл бұрын
@@coreymoyers wrong. Clay is used by the NIJ to determine if there is enough backface deformation to kill you.
@noncompliant209cali2 жыл бұрын
That's why Batman has the Bat symbol on his chest , so when someone shoots they shoot at the most protected part of his armor
@GUNTHER13 жыл бұрын
These were armor piercing rounds black tips 30 06 I don’t think there’s gonna be someone with the 6 armor piercing 30 06 rounds shooting you point blank , but its good to know this stuff, thanks for the video fellas STAY STRONG!!! 👍👍💪🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@brokenstarforge42763 жыл бұрын
Well im happy to see how it preformed
@BroScience710 Жыл бұрын
The weight of steel is terrible, but from a prepping stand point in my mind I justify it. With long shelf life and beating they can take. I go base coat though and through Kevlar spall guard on it
@HELLSFURYRISE3 жыл бұрын
Those p90 mags must be a bitch to load
@chadvalliere86973 жыл бұрын
I have the level 4 LA Police gear with Spartan Armor trauma pads behind them. Watched Mrgunsandgear’s tests of these plates and the LA Police gear ones. These plates being tested were out of stock at the time.
@jamesdeek77563 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can use these to buff up some of your defenses. Not as your personal plates though
@alexanderwoolverton28132 жыл бұрын
If it's lightweight and stops rifle bullets why wouldn't you use it as a personal plate?
@clrkkdd123 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. 🤔👊🏽
@James-Deep4 ай бұрын
newb here. When you buy these, do you just get two of the same model/item, or is there a front style and back style that both need to be bought.
@KommKarl3 жыл бұрын
👍 thanks again for your info
@EvanDickersonM813 жыл бұрын
I'm more worried about 55gr 5.56 out of a 20in barrel
@kendallhershberger93622 жыл бұрын
It can vary a bit. But most 556 is optimized for 16 inch barrels. I have seen testing where a lot of ammo actually was a 100 fps or so SLOWER out of a 20inch barrel. Obviously this can vary.
@cerberus11663 жыл бұрын
i love watching bullets hit things as well. just so interesting
@mattblum89413 жыл бұрын
Pull that black tip and reload it in a .30-378 Weatherby mag..it will go through.
@takingbacktoxic78983 жыл бұрын
At that distance? Probably.
@BuffRANGE3 жыл бұрын
@@takingbacktoxic7898 You'd be surprised. A lot of these Level IV can stop M2AP bullets going over 3100 fps :D
@takingbacktoxic78983 жыл бұрын
@@BuffRANGE that would be a much more helpful rating system, as eventually with enough distance lower rated armors will stop projectiles the are not rated for.
@BuffRANGE3 жыл бұрын
@@takingbacktoxic7898 Yep to a certain extent. Granted angle of attack changes over distance, that is going to put the wearer at the advantage (extending distance from shooter)
@Nick-Marshall3 жыл бұрын
Cool video boss👍
@nomadterry614610 ай бұрын
I have some $30 wish armor ; I tried it out it will stop 2 rounds of 357 mag; but 2 rounds of 303 British fmj 174gr bullets go right thru; it's not level 3 plus ; it's at best level 2
@thannydevitos23323 жыл бұрын
A nice video to watch while working
@czarface3 жыл бұрын
Should have hit it with the 556 🤷🏽♂️ Given how common the round is and it’s velocity, it would’ve been a better test .
@chadvalliere86973 жыл бұрын
Mrgunsandgear did. Passed with flying colors
@JamesSmullins2 жыл бұрын
@@chadvalliere8697 his test was among the worst done. The plate was up against a half full box of sand and in no way attached to anything. The plate fell over with every shot and he waited to tape it to the box only after it was pretty much powder inside to mag dump 556 into it. His test was completely useless, at least here it was fastened to the test dummy getting much closer to realistic results and that's why it failed after five shots. Now let's also be honest here in that the extreme close distance and standing still to take those five shots from a 30-06 blacktip is extremely unlikely. Unless you're really stupid and just walked right up to the gunman and stood there. So the armor isn't bad, the foam they sell for the back is rather substandard looking, almost like craft foam from the looks of it.
@blakeryan91553 жыл бұрын
It's the only 5.5 pounds that has me interested. I love my steel plates but boy thems heavy.
@Halal_Dan3 жыл бұрын
They're 5.5 pounds because the strike face is undersized, you're basically buying a size lower of what it says.
@jchsixstring3 жыл бұрын
Steel is not real armor.
@joelerk62983 жыл бұрын
Get rid of your steal armour. Your wearing a frag grenade on your body.
@blakeryan91553 жыл бұрын
It's the 20 year shelf life that sells me on the steel. I've got the build up coats on my 3+ plates so I'm not worried about spalling until I take 6 rounds or so to the chest. But I am shopping for ceramic now that I'm able to afford swapping it out every 3 or 4 years
@jchsixstring3 жыл бұрын
@@blakeryan9155 Yeah definitely good that you're moving to ceramic. I wouldn't worry about the "shelf life" thing. Well maintained armor should last well over 5-10 years. Look at the guys with surplus SAPI and ESAPI plates. You're GTG
@sixshadowelf2 жыл бұрын
I would put some cardboard behind the plate and on the back of the dummy to make it easier to see if a round makes it through.
@whiteblackgrayman3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or is the core of the first .30-06 flying out of the pate at 6:17?
@battleax4609 Жыл бұрын
Not a lot of armor can stop 30-06 black tip
@prinzeugenvansovoyen7323 жыл бұрын
this is dangerous, do you want to get Kentucky Ballitict? Ever heard of flyback shrapnell? especially with ceramic plates and steel or tungsten penetrator rounds like i have been in a Test lab for VPAM - the EU version of the NIJ - they shoot the plates at 5 meters - the remote solenoid fired proof shooting benchmounted gun and the amount of flyback shrapnell over the years is enough that the wall behind the gun is splattered with some pretty hefty holes of penetrators comming back sideways - also the gun itself, every year or so they need to recrown or replace the barrel because shit flys back and hits the muzzle - and the optics for adjusting each shot to the wanted impact pattern.... please refrain from doing that again even if its a cool video it is not worth your bodily health or even eyesight every 200 or so erounds one comes back, you can be lucky a long time but at times we had 3 come back in a row, and come back close that is, like in linewith the barrel hitting a imagined shooter pretty much in the face or forehead