Civilian Offensive Handgun Concept ft Chuck Pressburg

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A p365, glock 43x, hellcat, and many other stagger stack handguns offer the same on paper performance to a full-sized 3000 dollar 2011.
So why do many shooters still prefer running larger handguns?
The answer is pretty obvious, but today I get into a bit more nuance.
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[@BudikahYT]

"spraying your bullets all over section eight housing like a petulant child" got me. Maybe he should consider adding acorns to the class.

[@musicman1eanda]

Just to add a Dad's perspective: kids change the concealment game a lot. I have carried an M&P 2.0 compact for 6 years AIWB, but have considered going down to a shield plus and/or deep carrying with an Enigma since having kids 16 months ago. Carrying a child everywhere turns your setup that's usually great for concealment, into a challenge. For example, you would never pull your t-shirt tight against your body in the summer while carrying, yet that's exactly what kids do when you hold them.

[@1unhappyfarmer]

A lot of folks don't understand this constraint. Wrestling with your kid in the grass is awkward at best and dangerous at worst with a duty size handgun. Small stuff especially with enigmas is game changing!

[@michaellamas1497]

The switch from “compact” handgun that was really just a short full size to a legitimate single stack subcompact is probably the single most common EDC switch ever.

[@conorfoster2337]

Sounds like you need a phlster enigma

[@musicman1eanda]

@conorfoster2337 That's what I mentioned in my comment. I actually have had one for a couple years and usually use it in a standard AIWB way. But, I have been experimenting with the deep concealment technique where the whole gun goes below the belt line due to carrying kids.

[@yzhou05]

⁠@@musicman1eandaHave been deep concealing a P365XL in an Enigma for a couple years now. Game changer in terms of how much better concealment is, you have to be nut checked for anybody to tell you’re carrying.

[@Doug11B10]

What a well timed video. I carry a G17 for duty, G19 for EDC and have a Staccato P on hand for T&E with my department. Its like a 15% performance gain for a 500% cost increase and thats a tough pill to swallow. Here is what I've concluded: 1. If I was told I am going to war overseas tomorrow in an austere environment and my primary will be the rifle of my choice and the handgun is a last ditch backup that will see little use. I'm taking a Glock. It will be able to get dirtier/gummier for a longer period of time and will have a higher likelihood of going bang if it needs to. 2. For the stateside LEO or prepared citizen who in 90+% of scenarios will find themselves with a handgun when the moment comes. I want all of the performance in that moment I can get. I have the time and means to maintain my weapon systems. And even with my current duty gun (G17), just because I could go some thousands of rounds with little maintenance, I already don't do that. Why? Because my life depends on that weapon and I have the means and time to maintain it. So, might a 2011 choke up after 500-1000 rounds with zero maintenance? Sure. But in the environment I'm in I have three magazines on me. So the idea of slogging down after a completely unrealistic round count just is not a concern. And short of wrestling a bad guy in a mud pit before hand, the gun is very reliable for the environments its likely to find itself in. Love the content, always look forward to your thoughts on these topics.

[@BrassFacts]

thanks for weighing in. I have similar thoughts on the matter.

[@freddyj1728]

Same

[@andershilmo1866]

I agree I believe the M&P and p10c are as reliable or more so as a Glock after multiple mud tests show. Right know there are a few Israelis using M&P as they use in many cases their edc weapon as their secondary in war. If all your unit is using Glocks though that’s the way to go. 2011 if you can afford and are willing to maintain them as your edc.

[@lewishaynes4931]

I find a FNP45T to be my outright favorite in a situation where I don’t have a shotgun, and have to eat a shit sandwich while fighting with a pistol….

[@jwilliams3170]

I’ve had the same mental fight in my mind. I think the Glock will always be my go to war secondary, but after trying out different handguns, I find that I do get a performance increase out of non-Glock firearms. So for my duty carry, although I haven’t made the switch yet, I’m much more open to the idea of carrying something that I get higher performance out of. A duty gun gets higher carry and use, but I also do a better job taking care of it because it’s likely the only thing I’ll have on me when it all goes down.

[@mmmpancakesmmm]

I EDC a Roland Special with a Gen 5. I know I know I know, I’m right about everything and tremendous

[@mattpence5655]

Da it’s not always running the mass driver but that’s my fault I do like it but it’s a little ungainly but 19x with a leupold micro and a baldr s (knock it if you want but farm boy here I use this for a lot of situations where I looking for predators at night so it’s lights laser whatever I can get to work and I am here to tell ya I can flat hammer a raccoon at 30 in the dark I feel sorry for the person I ever had to use it for but olight has been beat to shit carried every day and works like my Casio watch lol

[@AJohnSmith]

Stock Glonk Stay Glonking

[@palmtreecorpse]

About the same I got my new gen roland special Gen 5 45 with a RMR X300 and Radian ramjet, I've let some coworkers run it (they've never shot a full size handgun with a comp) and they were baffled how easy it was for them to run compared to their slim ccw centric guns

[@TheDrunkLibertarian]

@@palmtreecorpseG45, afterburner, Acro, and X300 T, is the modern Roland special. I love mine.

[@BuckF0eJiden]

I'm running a Gen 3 G19 slide with a Holosun 507c and suppressor height sights over a PSA Dagger frame, a Mass Driver, Timney trigger, and a Surefire X300 Ultra. That's honestly the way to go. I CCW it without very much issue, and I'm using a cheap Amazon holster I dremeled to accommodate the dot. The Mass Driver makes a huge difference on recoil imo, and not having to worry about pressing the gun against clothing forcing the slide out of battery is massive in my opinion. I'd LOVE to do a similar setup with a Glock 40. I wish Strike Industries would make a 10mm compatible Mass Driver, but any comp would definitely help.

[@Lemur_Charlie]

I had an encounter in my workplace with an active shooter (I won’t go in depth to which specific incident) and this individual took about 8-12 rounds of my 9mm 124gr Federal HST center mass and didn’t do any more than wince and continue. (I’m a firearms instructor and was conceal carrying a 15+1 and a spare 21) In this shootout I had succumb to a shot in my thigh, at which point it became very real I could die here. Obviously I was aware shit was real as it was, but experiencing that immense pressure and burning to my thigh I realized “yeah that in my chest will drop me.” And my fight for my life went into overdrive. I came to understand, my threat at this point mutually didn’t want to die. He didn’t want to give up the fight, but that PRIMAL urge to survive will push you through anything until the physical body fails. It’s literally giving all you have because this is all you’ve got. It ended with me rushing to cover injured, conducting a tac swap and stopping him with about a 7 yard bill drill but with 7-8 rounds. Instant ragdoll, to facing the sky sucking air for about two gasps and he was gone. I survived that encounter, I did what had to be done. But I mutually understood in a sick way his desperation to kill me to live. He was wrong and is were he needs to be now, but to be layed out 10 ft from the guy and knowing I survived while he was gone was surreal. I looked at him as EMS arrived and thought, “that could have very well been me.” TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN.

[@ericj6636]

Glad you made it. Wow

[@tim.shootz]

Incredible story. Glad youre still with us!

[@Alberecht]

Highly recommend reading “On Combat”, for people who have or have not gone through a self defense shooting. Grossman comes to a similar conclusion as you came to after your own personal experience.

[@jackrackham3406]

At the risk of sounding cringe, I'm reminded of the scene from All Quiet where Paul is in the shell hole with the French soldier.

[@paddypibblet846]

I had a similar encounter. I also won't expand much on what and where for privacy reasons. I got out of my cruiser and two gangbangers got out of their car in an aggressive manner. They drew on my partner and I, and they instantly domed my partner. I did a tactical slide over my hood and took cover behind the engine block. I drew my 2011 (made by Atlas, not the low tier staccatos, the chief approved it personally only for me since I am the head instructor for all State Police in my state) and I did a sub 1.5 bill drill. Mind you in practice I usually do a 2.0, but under life and death pressure I managed a 1.5, the guy was big skin head and he just absorbed my own custom made 9mm +p++ 137 grain XTP HST federal major power factor loads. All of them went into his heart. This was at 20 yards. The second guy opened the door to his trunk and as he's pulling out an AR15 with a gadsen flag on the dust cover, I did an A-Zone credit card shot on his cerebral cortex mandula oblongata and dropped him with the CNS shot. The guy who I had shot previously rushed me and did a T-shaped jump over the good and tackled me as he's leaving a trail of arterial spray everywhere. We're wrestling over my Atlas but I carry a small 22lr pocket j-frame as back up. I do a Brazilian Jujitsu sweep (I'm also a black belt), put him in an arm bar, and with my free hand I draw my snubbie and shoot him three times in the head but the 22lrs just bounce off his head, then I have to dig the muzzle into the eye and pull the trigger and finally the guy stops (he survived btw). There's this secret medal of honor they give cops but unfortunately it's not talked about in the media. Needless to say I was paraded for stopping those skin heads. Turns out they thought we were there to arrest them because they were carrying one million pounds of cocaine in their trunks. Stay safe out there gents. Back the blue.

[@benthephilosopher]

As someone who is too poor to get a micro compact and thus still carries a G19 with an RMR in 2024, this video makes me happy.

[@thomaseric8662]

Same. I only have money for one pistol and I went with a g19

[@spencer7197]

If you can only run one gun...That combo is perfection. You are doing way better than some of the other "poors"

[@freshjnew]

> too poor > optic costs as much as a new sub compact 😂😂😂😂😂

[@benthephilosopher]

@@freshjnew optics are non-negotiable. and poverty comes in degrees. I would never buy a new pistol unless I also had the budget to get an optic, a $90 holster, and at least 5 additional mags (and new iron sights if it's a glock).

[@donewithmodernlife]

@@benthephilosopher excellent choices, if it works for you then that’s what matters. That 19 will protect your life the same as a 43X or P365 would.

[@codyduncan6801]

Used to own a Staccato P. Put 11,000 rounds through it in a year, duty carried it, and loved it. Ended up selling and buying a bunch of Glocks. Not because I like Glock better, but because, for the price, I was able to arm my whole family and ensure they're all protected while creating homogeneity in our security system. It's not my favorite gun, but they run and are easy enough to work on. Plus I've tweaked a couple of mine to make them more palatable. That's a plenty fair trade-off in my mind.

[@TheDeepSeaCreature]

@@codyduncan6801 fascinating approach

[@floofy6911]

I kinda went the opposite way, consolidated my collection of firearms down to higher quality ones.

[@codyduncan6801]

That's what I wanted to do. Ideally, I'd have the family armed with the best possible, but the budget wouldn't allow for 7 Staccatos. Hahaha

[@thewatcher4654]

To be honest I wasn’t really triggered by this concept.

[@BrassFacts]

I need to try harder.

[@wakes_inc]

​@@BrassFactsSlacker

[@ericj6636]

You failed ​🎉 @@BrassFacts

[@DFogify]

Brock's love for 4oclock carry and pull-the-dot loops is commendable.

[@BrassFacts]

I actually mostly carry appendix with a clip. but for these bigger guns it's pure suffering to have them appendix (for me)

[@roflchopter11]

A clip as in screwed to the gun, or a clip as in spare mag?

[@BrassFacts]

@@roflchopter11 clip as in how it attaches to my belt.

[@TheBwalker97]

It’s the best carry method

[@harryazzole7814]

I carried a Beretta 92X 20-22 and have been carrying a G34 with an X300U and 507Comp since last year. I've always been an advocate for carrying big guns, even if they're not comfortable (which mine is, thanks to Tenicor). When the Allen mall shooting happened 20 minutes from where I live, it dawned on me that having nothing but a 43X with a single spare mag wouldn't be a fun experience in that situation.

[@SolarGeneral]

Same here. I have carried my Beretta 92fs Centurion since I got it in 2004.

[@tubeguy4066]

Maybe for you

[@taylormartin4346]

Glock 34 w/ X300 all day baby 🤙

[@smnkm4ehfer]

34/x300 team

[@andershilmo1866]

Or p10F with TLR HL or even PDP PRO SD. 4.5 inch, TLR HL

[@keepyourbilsteins]

"Not sprinkling your bullets over section 8 housing" hits pretty hard as a guy who had his house, with his kids in it "sprinkled" by cops in a not section 8 neighborhood 5 years ago. I went acab at that moment.

[@emperorbobarino]

Cops are tools. They're as good as the hands that wield them.

[@Token_Black_Guy]

Nobody made a song saying fuck the firefighters

[@cagneybillingsley2165]

i think you were already a dolt. that event just triggered a greater irrational response.

[@cagneybillingsley2165]

@@Token_Black_Guy but they still shoot at them. don't try and intellectualize the philosophy of people with an average iq of 80

[@cagneybillingsley2165]

@@Token_Black_Guy that doesn't stop them from targeting firefighters either. you're trying to intellectualize the philosophy of people with an av iq of room temperature. it's not going to work.

[@mavrikmavrik3032]

My son attended his no fail class last year. It was probably the most impactful class he’s taken and that’s saying something because he’s trained a lot with a lot of great instructors.

[@bradsimpson8724]

I've been a fan of this line of thinking forever. I don't want to have to rely on a rifle that I may or may not have access to in my truck(could go on about THAT for ages) or home or range locker or whatever. I want the most capability I can get in the piece of equipment that I always have within arm's reach. I apply that to my training; I drill with my pistol 2× or 3× more regularly than I do with my rifle, not only because the performance is that much lower and the skill requirement is that much higher, but because it's the tool that I am most likely to have when I need it. It's one of those things that make me grateful for my size and environment; I'm big enough, in a cool enough climate, that it's not unreasonable for me to be able to concealed-carry a relatively large handgun on a regular basis. You've become one of my favoirite firearms-related content producers over the past year, and this one really seals it. Not only is it touching on a subject that I feel very strongly about, but Chuck Pressburg is one of the 'tactical celebrities' in the firearms world that I have an overwhelming amount of respect for.

[@1unhappyfarmer]

I have consumed a lot of content of Chuck over the last few years and this video really rustled my jimmies even though I normally enjoy. The idea that your edc is not legit because it is smaller and not meeting metrics similar to a full size service gun is really a disservice to the average ccw person. Most of us work in trades, offices, retail, food, manufacturing, and in major metro areas with people that are hostile towards guns. The only way we can actually "everyday carry" for most of the day INCLUDING carrying at work and at home is to have something small, unobtrusive, and that can be pocket or deep concealed if needed. I am not pursuing felons through bad neighborhoods and getting in rolling gunfights! I am not sending people away for years/life if I stop them! I only need to prevent or dissuade crime to be succesful! This video just props up GWOTbro/LEO mindsets and requirements that dont apply to normal people! If this video had been about how these handguns are useful in higher threat environments or during social unrest or shtf it would make sense, but it hangs its hat on edc for normies like me. These guns just end up in the safe, on the table, in the glovebox, or off body carry for most people, and therefore not "everyday carried" as much as their owners would tell you. I have also tried carrying roland specials with good holsters, enigmas, holster mods, many different belts etc so I am not without experience.

[@Charles_Gunhaver]

👏🏻 👏🏻👏🏻

[@frankholub4673]

Did you not listen during the part of the video right before the sponsor segment where BrassFacts clearly says "This brings us to a really important point ... You don't have to go buy a 2011 to Roland Special or whatever, stick with what you've got" ?

[@1unhappyfarmer]

​@frankholub4673 I understand Brass said that but Chuck was very clear in his portion and Brass obviously left that part in for the edit... so it would seem like there is still a level of endorsement from my perspective.

[@JC101Zero]

Whatever you taken from the video at least take this, carrying something is better then nothing. Own what you'll shoot and carry daily and you'll be better off then most

[@1unhappyfarmer]

@@JC101Zero Exactly what we should all encourage. People should carry what they can and be proficient. It's just aggravating to have Chuck, a person who I respect, say that those people who carry smaller handguns are basically not even carrying a gun, and essentially insinuate that those guns are ONLY useful for contact shooting and are closer to a knife. And then Brass propping that up to support his thesis... I am offended lol good job Brass!

[@alliwantisfinancialstabili7414]

I'm glad I'm not the only one tackling the crippling realization that no matter what fancy handgun I pick, it's still shooting the same 9mm bullet. I've pondered switching from my Glock to a CZ, partially for practical reasons, partially for snobby hipster reasons. But what always gives me an existential crisis is knowing that it does the exact same thing my coworkers Glock 17.4 does. Honestly happy to see this topic discussed, I love shooting pistols way more than rifles and as a civilian I feel like a pistol is far more practical in utility and usage than a rifle will be, simply based on the merit that carrying an AR everywhere is weird and strongly discouraged.

[@michaelnasser8697]

I agree. Everything seems to be about the HSLD stuff when what you have will work, if you train with it.

[@Pantone268Plus]

BF getting Chuck on has me feelin' a certain way. Great work, dude!

[@hunterhess8433]

I daily my Sig 220 Legion 10mm with a Streamlight TLR-10 and a Holosun SCS 320. I live in the middle of the woods in West Virginia, so I'm more concerned about four legged predators than two when it comes down to it; but I have never been in a scenario where I have felt "outgunned", if you will.

[@thomaseric8662]

Yep. My dad kept a glock 10mm for hiking in Alaska

[@snky6995]

I'm offended!

[@spehhhsssmarineer8961]

Scandalous!!!

[@Sidekick_Snowman]

And I'm even more offended

[@walkercustoms]

Lmao

[@Multicam44]

I'm offended that we've all been offended.

[@nef36]

I'm Onffended!

[@JustDefense]

I think the Beretta 92G LTT Elite checks the boxes your 2011 does but without sacrificing reliability and for less money and less expensive mags.

[@MrSmith-zy2bp]

The new Beretta GTS (frame mounted decocker) with red dot and LTT tunned would be.

[@BrassFacts]

I mentioned the LTTs actually, friend of mine runs one. But I think I cut it out on the editing room floor.

[@JohnSmith-xv2ob]

My stock Beretta 92X RDO Full Size was probably the best performing handgun (in terms of MY accuracy and ability) I've had yet. DR920 War Poet is my current and I think the only reason I'm better with it than the Beretta is the fact it has a red dot.

[@michaellamas1497]

Before watching I just already know what the video is gonna be about, finally someone’s gonna say it. There’s a whole universe of discourse that can be had about how the pou for the civilian sphere is crazy different and your priorities aren’t the same as with leo or military

[@ryanjarrard9938]

Being a good CZ cultist, my go to in this category is a Shadow 2 Compact with a TLR9 and a 508T.

[@Multicam44]

CZ was my first handgun choice, them Czechs know how to make some fine guns 🤌🏻

[@jb8086]

I to am a member of the CZ cult. Depending on situations and necessary concealment I go with my p09, a p07, or if I have to my Rami. I am unashamed of my cult membership.

[@ryanjarrard9938]

@@jb8086 Love my Rami - hate they discontinued it.

[@sadATLsportsfan]

I’m a CZ P-07 cultist/autist myself. CZ gang where you at??

[@EverydayMarksman]

@@sadATLsportsfan Hi. CGW P07, CZC PCR, and a tricked out P10F checking in.

[@Rusty_Spiggle-Smith]

My "offensive handgun" is a G40 with a g29 length grip 12+1 and a g26 grip circumference chambered in 9x25 Dillon capable of launching 60 gr projectiles at 2500 fps. its got a 6” barrel and weighs roughly 30oz.

[@Borderline5440]

6 foot barrel? What are you, the Joker?

[@Rusty_Spiggle-Smith]

@@Borderline5440 6inch

[@dudesame2207]

6 inch barrel? What are you, the Joker?

[@Rusty_Spiggle-Smith]

@@dudesame2207 6 inches really isn’t that big conceals very well plan on getting a 10” barrel for it at some point in the near future

[@dudesame2207]

That's what the joker would say

[@ColeDedhand]

"You don't have to go out and buy a 2011." Well, thanks for that. Cause I'm not gonna.

[@BillyBob-bd1hj]

Personally, I prefer that my guns function most of the time, that kind of rules out a 2011.

[@abluecardigan]

i remember saying that a little over a year ago when gt's staccato p video was served up by the algorithm... anyway, i really like my staccato p and xc now.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

No, you have to, sorry.

[@DeemShane]

Never had any issues out of my staccato p

[@alexmiller6848]

My goal is to sell a couple of handguns to buy a Staccato P lol

[@jeffpraterJSF]

Every gunfight you get into is open division. No limitations on calibers, types, or accessories. Always carry the largest gun possible that has the most bullets or the biggest bullets with whatever accessories that make you the most effective shooter

[@darklyripley6138]

I disagree. I work as an instructor, and what I tell people is “Carry what you can afford, have access to, can legally carry, and what is comfortable”. Actually using your gun is so unlikely that you should focus more on what’s comfortable. That means not carrying full size guns with optics and lights. Because realistically speaking, you don’t need them. Also, bigger bullets don’t mean anything in regards to pistols. Real world data shows that basically all handgun calibers perform the same in actual shootings.

[@josephholtan3458]

@@darklyripley6138 If you are, realistically speaking, not likely to use your gun, why should you even carry one? If you think you are likely enough to have to use one that it's worth it to you to carry one, why shouldn't performance be your top priority? Doesn't mean you shouldn't give any thought to comfort, but still.

[@Itsamemario0510]

​@@darklyripley6138I agree with you regarding the size of the bullet but IMO the rest of your comment only really targets the novice CCW holder. True comfort comes from having the right holster and belt. A G19+x300u (or comparable) is not an issue IWB if you have the right setup for a LARGE portion of the population

[@darklyripley6138]

@@josephholtan3458 Honestly, you’re right. Which is why when anytime I tell someone what I do, and they say “You know, I’ve actually been thinking about buying a gun. But I don’t know if I need it”, I usually reply with “You probably don’t”. Needing a gun is very unlikely. There’s really not even any data to show carrying makes you safer. So it comes down to what the individual person is willing to put up with. If you do feel the need to carry, you should carry what is comfortable and makes the smallest footprint.

[@darklyripley6138]

@@Itsamemario0510 I feel like the gun community is strongly disconnected from the general population. Most people don’t even like carrying their phones and keys in their pockets, let alone carry a gun. I don’t even like it. I wear clothes that actually fit my body. I wear a lot of women’s pants too, which means I can’t IWB carry. Now imagine a person who wears sweat pants or leggings everyday. Obviously they could use something like the Enigma, but most people just don’t want to have to deal with that. Most people are lazy and don’t want intrusions in their life.

[@EricDaMAJ]

The only hiccup for me is the “unreliability” bit. I’m a big fan of guns that go “bang” _no matter what._ But that’s a military expectation. For a civilian who can and will every day strip his gun down, lubricate it with the Chanel #5 gun oil, rotate in fresh Gucci bullets, light the sacred incense and say the appropriate prayers to the Machine God, and never drag it through the mud, “unreliability” isn’t an issue.

[@CallofWar5]

Love it ❤

[@andreivaldez2929]

Clean your guns after every use then. It doesn't take long and - at least when I was in the military - we used to clean our stuff after every time we had to qual.

[@klee1410]

the "good" 2011's are, at this point, pretty drop dead reliable. Just maintain your gun. Drop of lube if you've dumped like 500 rounds through the gun. Clean the gun after a range session unless you only put like 100 rounds through the gun (who only shoots 100 rounds in a range session right?). The one big weakness of the platform are those mags. 2011 mags CANNOT be expected to be reliable if you've dropped them in dirt/mud/sand. You HAVE to take apart the mag and run a brush through them every time they get dropped or there's like a 50% chance you're just gonna be running a malfunction drill. The guns themselves, contrary to popular belief or perhaps even what's suggested in this video, actually deals with dirt/sand/mud quite well. But ya... if you see a 2011 guy who DOESN'T own a mag brush.... that guy either doesn't really shoot or has never shot outside an indoor range environment. None of that matters in "real world" practice though. Nobody is going to drop an empty mag, pick it up, and reload it with loose rounds in the middle of a gunfight. Why would you be carrying around loose rounds anyway instead of another mag right? 2011 mags are 100% if they're clean and maintained, and there's every expectation in a self defense situation that they should be. Ofc, if you drop your mags in the dirt and then reload them without cleaning them to later use in case of self defense... that's on you. That type of gun owner is what the GLOCK was created for. And yes, there is the off chance that you somehow fall into a sand dune and roll around for 5 mins getting sand all over your gun and mags BEFORE getting into a gunfight, whereupon your 2011 might have enough sand in it (it's a pretty closed system so at least the mag in the gun should be fine, actually) that you're f'ed. Guess it just wasn't your day then? Maybe don't live in the desert? I mean hell, if you really care about extremely unlikely torture-test-like scenarios I hear the lowly M&P with the godawful hinged trigger is actually king of the hill.

[@nyet_maker7948]

Omnissiah preserve thy circuits

[@EricDaMAJ]

@@andreivaldez2929 Yes. Though military guns are supposed to hold up to a lot of use and abuse that mere cleaning can't fix. And in combat cleaning after every use isn't always an option.

[@RangerColinLZ]

One comment that stood out to me from the video was being able to "carry and train with the same gun without a brutal training regimen..." That's something I thought about in the last year of having my Staccato P. Eventually, I'll get a C2 as a carry gun, and I'll break it in with 250-500 rounds, then I'll clean it, and basically not fire it again unless the P is out of 'service', or I absolutely have to. My Staccato P will forever be my first choice for a training and 'battle' pistol, and it will have the round count to back that up. I've already put more rounds on it in a year, than I did my last main-line handgun

[@Ittakesonelifetolearnhowtolive]

Thanks for the vid. Around 5000 rounds into carrying a Sig x-macro comp that I swap out the lower to an XL frame when I conceal. The comp really is a good compromise. It is bullet agnostic and still gives some performance improvement. So far, fits all the bills for me. For context, I carry a G45 at work. Both have red dots and lights. It pained me to do this as I've carried a glock for years, professionally and personally. Oh well, I'm ok changing.

[@Skrillakilla]

Sig is for fem boys

[@Nitroaereus]

I know this concept is mostly geared towards carry, but I will add that when you have kids, the Civilian Offensive Handgun concept does become (for most people, especially if you train) your best option for home defense. When it's just you or you + your GF/wife, the optimal strategy in a home invasion is just to barricade up in your bedroom with a long gun, loudly announce that you are armed, and call 911. You don't leave your room, because the first rule of clearing a building is "Don't clear a building" and the second rule is "If you ignored the first rule, absolutely don't clear a building by yourself." When you have kids, the calculus changes, because your first priority is keeping them safe, and more than likely, they are in a separate bedroom, often on the other side of the house. And if your kids are small, you may very well need to pick them up. With a good shorty CQB setup, you could move through a house with a long gun, and with a good sling, you can go hands free. Unless you have a bullpup, or maybe a PCC/PDW, you're going to have a very difficult time using that long gun one handed. A Civilian Offensive Handgun is going to be better than a long gun at all of those things, though it certainly loses out on lethality and accuracy (though not terribly at typical HD distances for a competent shooter). And with the accessories we have today, you aren't losing out on WMLs or electronic sights with a pistol. The other consideration that make a COH probably the ultimate Dad Home Defense Gun (particularly with younger children) is that it's generally much easier to store a handgun than a long gun in a readily accessible quick access safe. When you have kids, safe storage of loaded firearms becomes very, very important as the risk of a curious kid getting into stuff they shouldn't and ND-ing is at least as great as a home invasion. There are quick access long-gun safes, but quality options are generally much more expensive (and certainly bulkier) than a quality quick access pistol safe.

[@gulkash1188]

This is exactly the concept behind why I built and now carry what I have called a Glonk 19XL, (19 size frame/grip with a 34 slide). When using a full size light in conjunction with a PHLster floodlight you give up zero concealabability or comfort and gain all the advantages of a 5+ inch barrel and slide, but it genuinely carries like a compact.

[@mattcomchoc2957]

Every time someone puts an x300 on a compact, a puppy dies.

[@gulkash1188]

@@mattcomchoc2957 then my TLR 1s have killed zero puppy's HUZZAH

[@wolfgang_h3t]

Compact frame fullsize slide is the superior pistol setup

[@Xavier-se9mc]

A civilian "offensive handgun" is what i was going for when about 6 years ago i got an M&P 2.0 40 long slide. Its still my go to for the desert or when i want to carry more gun than my edc but not yet to rifle level. It shoots remarkably flat, smooth, and accurate out to 100 yards and easily "supressive fire" effective out to over 200 yards. And given the loading, it has more than enough ass when it arrives at those distances to vibe check what an adversary thinks is cover and not concealment. I know 40 gets a lot of hate but in this niche role i think it excels without going bankrupt shooting 10mm

[@joesephkingston1621]

Laments about sacrificing reliability and then shows the least reliable Glock combo(43X/Shield mags) as a counterpoint.

[@neptunestrident4364]

Shield 43X mags are a hard no-go

[@joesephkingston1621]

@@neptunestrident4364 Yeah I spent a couple grand trying to make them work. PSA ones are starting to fail the same way after testing.

[@johnchristopher20]

It has an optic, so all you need is a “One Shot” pistol brace, q.v. (which means “go check it out” in your vernacular)

[@Horseysauce]

Wanting to carry a bigger, more capable handgun was a pretty big motivator to shed some pounds for me. I wasn't ever huge or anything but i had enough of a belly that carrying anything more than a bare glock 19 was uncomfortable. Now i can appendix carry a 17 with an optic and full sized light with basically the same comfort level I had before and that same bare 19 basically disappears in my waistband

[@e7tegt503]

That’s where I’m at too. I’ve lost most my weight but still need to drop a little more. Glad to hear it does help with carry.

[@singletrackftw]

Honestly, fantastic video & very inspiring to those who don’t carry, or carry without one in the chamber, or carry a sub compact less than ideal firearm.

[@KalashmanNC]

Tim Gramins. His gunfight is one that begs the question about the lethality of handgun rounds. Think it was like 14 shots of .45 Tim landed on the perp. Finally 3 shots to the face ended the fight………. But the dude was still alive and died at the hospital.

[@pcb8639]

I came across a video (kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIfMqGtmfstqac0) earlier this week about a guy who survived being shot 15 time with a 45 acp.

[@noway6633]

​@@pcb8639@KalashmanNC keep in mind, these are extreme and bizarre cases. Especially for 45 as a caliber

[@009013M3]

Yeah, that's the issue with pistols. It's a numbers game where you have to combine shot placement with impact power and penetration, and any significant shortage in that equation will leave you naked. I've read from credible sources that there are recorded instances of someone being hit in the face with a full house .44 mag, and the jacketed bullet causing a weird boundary layer separation effect where the projectile flattened and rode a trail of liquefied flesh around the curvature of the skull and left the attacker alive. That of course is why I will only carry my Arisaka 99 loaded with .35 Whelen 300 grain hard-cast lead gas checked rounds at 2400FPS for defense against muggers. Ghost ring speed sights only. I don't want to have to be dialing for windage when I'm staring down a charging mugger getting ready to bite me for disturbing its nest. I kid of course. I do carry a genuinely absurd .44 magnum snub nose because of crazy Illinois vagueness where it might be okay but it might be a felony to carry a pistol mag with a detachable baseplate. But I won't carry full power ammo, I carry a reduced load tuned for the short barrel meant to approximate a hot 10mm 180gr defensive load of a full sized duty gun. 180gr Hornady XTP bullet at 1275fps with no excessive flash, blast, or concussion. I'm actually very proud of my work even if it is a little excessive. ANd even then I'd go back to carrying my 9mm compact if we could get clarification of the law that carrying a mag with a detachable baseplate didn't count as "Readily converted, restored, or modified". I just have to accept that any handgun is going to be less consistently effective at stopping a threat than any intermediate or full powered rifle.

[@DarkMatter946]

​@noway6633 it's really not an exception for handguns. .45 gets no special distinction in that regard. Shot placement is king regardless of caliber.

[@jayellgee]

@@009013M3as someone that has done a lot of big game hunting with a 35 Whelen, your comment gave me a good chuckle.

[@donewithmodernlife]

I EDC a mini Roland; 43X MOS with Shield mags, 507k & Harrington Arms comp. Makes it the same length as a 48. Eats every type of ammo & can ride in a T-Rex Sidecar all day comfortably. Best setup I’ve run in 20 years of daily carry.

[@roswellianfuture6778]

Yes dude! Same setup just I went with PMM comp & EPS carry. Eats everything i throw at it and it is so fun to shoot and carry

[@citizenresponse]

One of my favorite videos so far.

[@tommytom4893]

I've had guys "One Shot Stop" with a single 9mm round; I've also dumped a full mag out of a P220 .45 ACP and the guy ran off. Both were rounds landing in the boiler. I'm happy that others are out there with performance being the mindset to their carry firearm. Currently, I switch back and forth between my LTT 92X and my Glock 45. I run both with a SureFire X300T and Leupold DPP.

[@Feng_of_Draugdor]

My fall/winter/early spring carry is an HK P30L with PMM comp and whatnot, and I love the DA/SA platform as an excellent in between with better reliability than a 2011 SAO type platform, but (with some upgrades for the P30 at least) a much better trigger and handling characteristics compared to a standard striker fired platform

[@jurpo6]

“Volcano their head” Hell yeah

[@KP-ty9yl]

One of my favorite guns is a G17 with a 6 second mount, T1, comp, and a light. The recoil is so light I was unimpressed by 5.7’s “low” recoil because it’s *that* close. You can also brace the 6 second mount against vertical surfaces like walls and make hits at a distance that would be unthinkable with a standard handgun. Not only is it incredibly fun to shoot, it’s much more capable at range. Plus imagine if there’s civil unrest, I can drop this in a cup holder and have something way more capable than most handguns without having a rifle out in the car. It’s not something you can reasonably IWB but I have an OWB holster for it and it is an excellent backup for a rifle. Under a coat it isn’t noticeable either. 100% there’s a place for something in between “concealable pistol” and PDW

[@RedEyePergo]

I edc my SS DR920P with a Holosun 508T and PID . Its basically a perfected modern version of the Roland Special. The slide is significaly lightened so it runs everything I feed it . I carry 2 17 rd mags of Speer Gold Dot +P+ HPs. Compensated guns are great if the gun is designed specifically to be ran with a comp

[@feudist]

Way back in 1994 when the OHWS program was announced, Guns Magazine did a feature on it. A sidebar article observed that the general performance requirements looked a lot like a USPSA Open Gun chambered in .45 ACP. IPSC Modified Division was, in some ways even closer. 1911 Syndicate recently did a deep dive into the OHWS and the HK that included one of the SEALs involved in the testing. He made the point that the gun was used rather more than generally believed and was quite useful on many reconnaissance missions and especially in over-the-beach insertions. He stated that he'd used one as late as 2007 because his unit hadn't turned theirs in for precisely that reason.

[@jackusmc2542]

Good Video. Not going to refute anything you say. 1911 style guns do take a bit more maintenance than the average polymer gun. When I carried a 1911, I had a weekly cleaning day. Even if I didn't shoot it. It is also important to lube it. Most Polymer guns can be run dry, not a 1911 style gun. I carry a Glock now because I have gotten lazy in my old age. The best part was at the end with Nova and her Friend Hop.

[@papapoonpoon]

This conversation seems to omit all of the durable, reliable DA/SA options that's are every bit as accurate and have excellent triggers, AND cost one third to one quarter the price. I see no reason to buy a 2011 for carry except the "Gucci" factor.

[@stevefaiello3321]

Seconded. This seems like a round about way to suggesting a SIG P226, Beretta 92, or CZ75 variant of your choice. I'm not sure why you'd pick a 2011 over one of them unless you have to an unreasonably good trigger (which you can get close to with any of those DA/SAs)

[@mrs.vasquezz]

Not to mention a P01 shoots flatter than a Roland/Sti/hudson H9

[@jamesyankowsky]

DA/SA guns just suck

[@damnsong8675309]

I went with an FNH FNX-45 tactical with the vortex venom for this role. Love it!

[@Smitty.WerbenJagerManJensen.]

Alright you convinced me. I’m gonna EDC a nighthawk.

[@johnemmert9012]

I think this discussion with the offensive handgun shows a shift from mindset for many people from preventing a mugging to potentially stopping an active shooter. It's why I carry a G19. It's what I can afford, and I put up with my choice holster and some discomfort for the ability to shoot far more accurately and at distance.

[@MrSpartacus2013]

I edc a 9-banger and a ka bar. We are not the same.

[@ReapingRose115]

I remember when someone commented on one of Firepower United's videos that there's no point in pistols and that they should only be for competition or the range, arguing the idea that anyone can pick up a rifle and actually engage targets or at least that's what I'm gauging (reading that comment is like an acid trip from Mars) Which is ignorant of the fact that most people aren't carrying a rifle on their person especially if they wanna just go to the shops around the corner or just a nice outing. Sometimes all you can rely on is the sidearm you can carry, not the rifle you wish you had at the moment where things go wrong just because it did.

[@snakebite210]

Brassfacts Friday 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@BadKarma1218]

Left hander, opnion discarded.

[@MapleHillMunitions]

Came for the Roland info, stayed for the 2011 content, but clicked like due to pupper kisses.

[@olmangarcia943]

For civilians the 40s&w,357sig, 10mm,45/45super need to be looked at. For us the pistol is probably primary or used to grt to a rifle. We wont have backup, artillery, air support coming so throw the biggest fastest rounds you can handle IMO

[@noway6633]

45 super and 10mm have pretty major diminishing returns

[@MrDoverfield]

@@noway6633spoken like someone with lady wrist

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

.40s&w is an offensive pistol for sure. 10mm is based though

[@roflchopter11]

Don't forget 22 TCM 9r! 40 grains at 2070 fps and enough gas to work a comp.

[@anson__carter]

I think i cried 😢, this is the most beautiful video i have ever watched... you get me... im speechless tbh... so i guess just thank you for being you i needed this more than you could ever know.

[@thorshammer5134]

Top reliable firearms are of the da/sa variety. My preference is the cz75 series. I rolled with a cz75 d pcr that I’ve put all CGW internals in, optic cut with rmr buis plate and matching front. These pistols run in anything, water, dirt, frozen, doesn’t matter. NATO certified and just keep ticking. Plus you can fully customize one, slap an optic on and still be half the cost of a staccato or similar 2011.

[@presidentmerkinmuffley6769]

Plus they will eat +P until you are too broke to buy +P....

[@thorshammer5134]

@@presidentmerkinmuffley6769 yeah, or +p+ really whatever you want to do. Pretty incredible pistols.

[@frankholub4673]

My two SP-01s were both unreliable POS guns, never again. Needed Wolff extractor springs or else constant FTE during competitions, and the first suffered a sheared firing pin retaining pin in the middle of a USPSA match. Swapped to an M&P 2.0 and have never had a single malfunction with very little cleaning over thousands of rounds.

[@thorshammer5134]

@@frankholub4673 my pcr has well over 10k rounds with zero malfunctions. Czs are extremely reliable, especially the pcr,p01, 75, p07,09. I don’t see or hear to many issues with people running CZs even in competition. Probably got lemons which is a bummer. The 2.0 m&ps are awesome. I carry a 4.6” 10mm during fall winter/ when hunting camping. DPP plate rmr, tlr1-hl, Galloway trigger shoe that removed all pre and post travel, stock internals. Feels like a single stage trigger, awesome set up.

[@presidentmerkinmuffley6769]

@@frankholub4673 Out of spec springs can happen with any manufacturer, odd that you got two though. Firing pin retainer pin, those are known to cause issues if you dry fire without a good snap cap. An issue that does not exist on their guns that have a Pre-B trigger group, be it a Pre-B 75 or a Shadow 2. Which part of why their most popular race guns lack the pin block and associated firing pin retainer pin.

[@vse0]

P226 SAO RX seems to be the perfect answer

[@Foxtrott_4]

Real men carry a Mk23 with supressor

[@justinroberts6034]

One of the best videos yet. More prepper videos plz.

[@TsunTzu]

I carry a Canik TP9 Elite SC with a threaded barrel and Disruptive comp. 12 in the gun, extra 15 mag. Completely functional, accurate, reliable gun. Trust it completely and honesty don't think I need much more- but if I do? Rifle.

[@theamericancristero7390]

Thanks to the weapons trials of the N7 program and the Alliance being honest about the deficiencies of the Predator (a basic b Glock19/Toyota Camry service weapon) the Alliance's offensive handgun project has allowed us to start carrying the Phalanx into action, señor brASS effect.

[@hooks4638]

For the life of me I don’t understand why Brass doesn't have more subs.

[@tubeguy4066]

That dude in the zoom call just loves to overcomplicate things and sound "badass"

[@mrs.vasquezz]

Average gun person tbh

[@Mister-sm1hs]

I agree... all the tacticool kids want to have his baby... nobody cares

[@RoniiNN]

He is selling a gun course like all other ex cop ex military whatever genius does. Don’t expect ground breaking jargon.

[@cotybear93]

I feel like I have landed square in the middle of this equation. My EDC is -P07 tactical (factory threaded bbl/suppressor height sights/factory extended mag so 17+ 1) -Modded with CGW parts and polished so everything is smooth as glass. Including extended firing pin for increased reliability. -Strike quad comp -modlite pl350 (big ole 5 ounce functional barrel weight) -Phlster enigma/floodlight combo so i can comfortably carry in whatever, even gym shorts and t shirt. The entire setup was cheaper that even a prodigy or other basic 2011 and has characteristics of both guns mentioned here, poly frame is cheap and absorbs recoil well. Light amd comp combo keep it shooting very flat for the price youre paying. The factory threaded bbl and extended mag make it so that its like carrying a plain full size, yet you get added capability with this setup. Only way i could possibly make it better is with factory cut for a dot. That being said, CZs temd to multiply so my next one will be CZC shadow 1. I imagine all the things that make my edc great will be amplified by a worked over shadow with a factory cut for a dot as well as still being cheaper than almost anything Staccato sells. Worst thing will be the weight which i dont really care about sonce the enigma makes carrying a heavy/large gun so easy.

[@ce2987]

After watching your Roland Special video, and several Modcasts on the topic, I decided to dip my toes into “Roland’s” waters. I found myself staring down at my G17 and my G19 and thought why wouldn’t I comp the 17 instead of the 19? To get to offensive handgun territory I would be running an extended mag anyway. So I did that. The comp is slightly fore of the u-boat but it is negligible. Runs great on the stock recoil spring with 124 or 147. That being said, I started to kind of embrace the offensive handgun concept and bought a Prodigy. And then had to watch a bunch of Joe Chambers videos to fix the damn thing 😂

[@guntotingnerd8830]

Heres a brief thought, you could offset the reliability issues and still get compensation if you used a fram mounted muzzle stand off compensator. And still mount a light. All you would have to do is mold your own holster.

[@wtfmrkratos]

Crazy. My bill drill splits on a Glock are around .18-.20 at the slowest. On an m&p 2.0 with an apex trigger in at .13-.15 all day. On my 2011, it’s about the same as the m&p. I still prefer a polymer gun over my stacatto. Even more so than my friends atlas. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@WickedCrispy]

I'd rather try and land a plane than deal with an active shooter carrying only a pistol. XD

[@stanthebamafan]

I daily carry a compact PDP with an optic and TLR7, usually with a spare mag in a sidecar style holster. I’ve been carrying for about 10 years, and I’ve always preferred to carry relatively bigger guns over the little pistols that are so common these days. I just never liked little guns. It’s important to me to have a gun that I know I can run well. My carry gun is set up very similar to the pistols I compete with for IDPA and USPSA every week.

[@Christus_Dominus_Est]

Glonk 20. Prove me wrong

[@GunFunZS]

Sig 365 wif a dot. It's just perfect.

[@GunFunZS]

Sig 365 wif a dot. It's just perfect.

[@Christus_Dominus_Est]

@@GunFunZS wrong

[@Will-px4zm]

Yeah but they're a pain in the ass. Bad ergonomics to put it mildly, but I love mine, even if it destroyed my RMR in less than 1000 rounds. tbh they need a comp to be useful in a gunfight if youre using big boy 10mm

[@Christus_Dominus_Est]

@@Will-px4zm agreed they are a pain in the ass. Heavy, bulky, good ammo is expensive, but that energy dump is unmatched.

[@HolyRollerGuero]

Loved the vid thanks for always keeping the gears turning Brock

[@twinarrowssurvival.2.065]

Love my Glock 45 and SIG 320 custom built..

[@NeglegentDischarge]

I am also a gun owner

[@poopoopeepee780]

Custom built 🤓

[@platapus112]

I'm so glad I'm back into the current thing with my Roland special

[@thetallone7605]

To add to your thoughts on human bravado: who dares, wins. My wife likes to tease me for thinking I can do things (with guns specifically), but I would counter that if I don’t think I can do those things and let that human bravado push me to try, we’ll never know. I won’t know that I can’t do a thing if I never dare try.

[@NightwoodGuns]

Great vid!

[@joker747A]

The love you guys show Nova…. confirms you are good dudes. Cheers from Alabama! 🫡

[@lordhellfire153]

Everything being discussed is why i don't honestly give a shit for a rifle. I'll literally never have it except at a range, but I'll always have my pistol

[@M81_WOODLAND]

11:38 Truth. Expensive. Inexpensive. They all inherently suck to a degree. Another well thought out presentation. Should be a reminder to all of us to train ( and train well) with a pistol that we are most familiar with on a VERY regular basis. Statistically, you'll end up having to use that tool rather than whatever arsenal you have hiding in the safe/closet/etc.

[@nerysalguero3956]

Don't know remember who said prolly Clint Smith cause he'd say shit like this but I've followed the rule of " the pistol is shit, if things goes sideways, use your pistol to find a rifle and go from there"

[@Seseous]

While I definitely agree that I'd rather have a rifle, I've always loved the response to that line that I read once, which is, "Whoever says that simply hasn't spent enough time with their pistol."

[@chap23305]

What's Pressburg teaching? How to accidentally discharge your weapon? 😂😂😂

[@dothwalrus370]

The best gun to have is the one you are actually going to carry. Sure a 2011 will shoot better, but they are heavy and big and expensive. I know the internet says it's just as easy to carry a full size 2011 as it is to carry a G19, but that is simply not true. Large guns are uncomfortable and most people will stop carrying them because of that. Sure you can get your .15 splits at an A-zone target at 25 yards with your open division gun but it doesn't matter if it's sitting at home in a safe.

[@ACWells-vi3re]

Fn 510 with 22rnd mags, swampfox justice, TRL 1 HL, and a GGW Brake. Pushes double tap 125 grain total copper hollow points around 1600 ft per second.

[@platoplombo15]

The rationale for the COH could also provide and argument for more powerful handgun calibers, rather than more volume of fire. The caliber with the greatest documented one-shot-stop is .357, but I doubt anyone will be advocating an optic-equipped wheelie anytime soon.

[@calebnation6155]

My ccw is a hellcat rdp with light and optic. The compensator makes it shoot like a sligjtly larger gun, its very comfortable to carry, and 13+1 with a spare 15 is fine imo. Sometimes in the winter if im not taking my jacket off ill carry my m&p competition gun but its kinda impractical. M&p 2.0 spec series with the factory comp, 507 comp, tlr1, and either 17rd flush mags or 23rd factory extended mags is probably overkill but i guess its more capable than the hellcat

[@MrPatchesXXX]

Tomorrow I'm taking out a CZ P10C slide on a P10F frame PMM CZ P10C comp Holosun 509T DPM recoil and reduction kit (3 part guide rod) I'll edit this comment with the results of my range time tomorrow. Ganna run +p and cheap fiochii Update 04/6: combo works great both on the C and F frame. No malfunctions, only thing is sometimes no lock back. +P and 115 fiochii run great! I highly recommend this combo does not seem to be finicky. Cut my splits close to what brass facts mention by about .05-.07 seconds. And with cz p10 prices u can build one for literally 1100

[@ericb.4358]

"A handgun is used to fight your way to a rifle." That said I'll carry my RUGER 57 and 200 rounds of 5.7 x 28 ammo into any battle I am forced to join. Longer range than other pistols, lightweight ammo and a reliable handgun with 3 magazines + comparable with a 5.7 carbine. Choosing this handgun over a GLOCK 17 makes sense to me, if not to others.

[@corycarlson8712]

This is what I wish nutnfancy would have turned into... More philosophy videos like this... nutn kinda said fck off to all of us who supported him for years and years ... Unless you give him money on.patreon your a pos. At least he inspired the next generation.

[@dylanwatson8468]

Definitely see this idea with the rise of the radiant ramjet and almost every gun coming optic ready. For a g19 with a tlr7a, ram jet, and optic, it is honestly very concealable and with a lot of rounds I am currently faster with it than a rifle up close.

[@JK13A]

This is all great when you live in a place where you don't expect someone to freak out if they see your firearm. I need something that I can conceal well. Unfortunately my genetics didn't bless me with a large frame to help me conceal something.

[@rustyshackleford8473]

So the guy in the story about 13 min in was shot 20 times, running away from police, and wasn't even armed?

[@EricSWCCFPJ]

I’m trying to figure out the audience for this video. Offensive handgun was an experiment decades ago before my time in SOF. When I was in I never met anyone who would actually go on offense with just a handgun. Any police (non swat) and civilians would by default and pretty much exclusively be considered employing a defensive handgun

[@tyler111762]

me, a Canadian, watching this video knowing it will never apply to me in this may issue hell nation with less than 5 CCW permits active nation wide.

[@BrassFacts]

oof :(

[@geekofsteal]

Move to the U.S. and it will apply to you. We're in need of patriots these days

[@tyler111762]

@@geekofsteal Canada is also in need of patriots. feels like defeat to turn tail and run to a place where others have already fought and won the battle for me.

[@killertruth186]

@@geekofsteal Tyler is right. Running away from a problem isn’t going to solve itself.

[@sureokk]

Sneed sells both feed and seed, however when he inherited the business from Chuck, it's highly likely that he kept the same naming convention, rhyme and all. Now, if we look at what rhymes with Chuck, well, I don't think I have to tell you what he sold.

[@RollingRigTraction]

I have always primarily packed a full frame pistol for over 35 years. Started out with a 1911A1, it was stolen... I replaced it with a Taurus PT24/7 OSS .45 (something to shoot all my leftover .45ACP) As an offensive handgun for my own choice I would choose either the Taurus PT101P as it's a monster handcannon with 16+1 .40 S&W capacity, the one drawback with that is the harder to find, rare and expensive extra magazines for it. Or the OSS .45 with 12+1 capacity, as a truly offensive use weapon it should 99.99% have suppressor capabilities and for the cost, the new Tisas PX9 Tactical with the 5" threaded barrel with 18 and 20 round magazine capacity from the factory is a killer option. For a shorter more compact yet similar option the PX9 Duty with threaded barrel or the new Taurus G3 Tactical with 4.5" threaded barrel amd tall suppressor sights with factory 17+1 capacity is hard to beat. All far better than that absolute garbage Glock grip angle. Gotta mention the French Gendarmerie hostage response units still using a scoped .357 Magnum Manhurin revolver(thankfully Beretta now imports that beautiful weapon) that would be a bulky consideration but absolutely capable of offensive use.

[@Goldenwithaleash]

I think the unsung hero in carry advancement in the past 7ish years are belts and holsters.

[@BangarangIndustries]

So I feel as though I can express my opinion on the matter due to the fact that I’ve ran a Glock for over 10 years and I just recently a month or two ago swapped over to the bull armory 4.25 tac as my EDC and I honestly love it the performance that I get out of it whether it be the trigger the grip profile the overall shooting performance accuracy, etc. blows my 19 X out of the water in my opinion however that being said everyone wants that Glock durability in their guns and that’s 100% understandable. I’m the same way when I carry a gun on trusting that gun with my life so when I need it to go bang, I want to make sure that it goes bang however this comes back into maintaining your firearm and my personal opinion if you’re going to carry a gun in a professional capacity or a civilian capacity being CCW it’s paramount that you Maint, maintain and clean the gun or guns that you carry and that’s just the fact that I said we are these firearms with our lives and we need to work them to work so it is beneficial of us to take care of our tools so that they perform optimally when we need them. That being said the tolerances of the 2011 I found that it doesn’t allow as much dirt and dust to actually get into the rail system itself with tolerance after prolonged and shooting 1000 2000 rounds without cleaning you will most likely run into some hiccups, stove, pipes stuff like that at least in my experience so far. I don’t my guns their tools however I do take care of them and they get beat up functionality wise. They’re taking care of. I feel that’s one of the most important things. I will say that the 2011 platform does have many benefits such as the distance the trigger has to travel before the round is set off the full length rail system, which allows it to track smoother naturally going to be heavier so the recoil will be mitigated a little more And most people tend to be more accurate when you put a 2011 style handgun in their hands versus something like a Glock and that’s just due the fact that they have better triggers a little bit better grip angle and just a little bit more accurate overall I still love my Glock but the 2011 has won me over as far as a quality firearm for duty or CCW applications

[@BrassFacts]

thanks for the feed back Though Please use some spacing, it's impossibly hard to read a block of text like this.

[@greeyui]

I appendix carry a VP9 with an X300-U WML and EFLX red dot plus a CAT. Is it comfortable? No. Is it uncomfortable? Also, no. Get a good holster and just carry. You will get used to it. Buy holster wedges if you need them for adjustment.

[@killertruth186]

I think feeling insecure about your handgun and being jealous of a more fancy firearm is going to cause more impact than worrying about the size of the handgun and the slight difference between shootability and comfortability. Which I do feel that is a silent problem when for first time gun owners or even those who feel their firearm is not good enough.

[@MultiSycorax]

Ive been talking about this idea for years, with all of these ideas.

[@gabrielbaker2667]

Pistol: Gen 5 Glock 34 Trigger: Glock Performance Optic: RMR Light: X300T