CL smooth on his beef with Trouble T-Roy, leading to Heavy D getting involved!

"Meet in front of Big Lou's fighting on the street".....that line was immortalized on They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.), one of the greatest hip-hop songs ever created by Pete Rock & CL Smooth! For the first time ever, CL Smooth explains how Trouble T-Roy and himself had a very serious beef over a woman's affection in Mount Vernon, and that Trouble T-Roy wanted to hurt CL Smooth very badly, to the point that he wanted to kill him in the street! This resulted in an all day fist fight between CL Smooth and Trouble T-Roy that went up and down the block by Big Lou's in Mount Vernon! The fight shook the hood to the point that Heavy D had to scoop both of them up in his truck after the brawl and set them straight, showing Heavy D to be the true Godfather of Mount Vernon! This meeting lead to them becoming brothers and family, resulting in the great tribute song following his death! This is a must listen for any fan of CL Smooth! Never heard before story!
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[@enochw3012]

CL did more cursing in this interview than he ever did on all his albums combined. Lol

[@tmat2024]

Right. Sounds like he had a lot to get off his chest. Some of this shit seems unbelievable thought.

[@dudeseriously57]

In my opinion, Heavy D didn't get enough love from the hip hop masses when he passed away. He was one of the greats.

[@themightyfp]

ALFJAMXA James idk it looked like every respected person in hiphop showed up or showed love when he passed btw first album I bought with my own money was Heavy D and the boys So dope

[@underyourskins]

Yep..

[@mustafahajj]

That's no opinion, What you stated was a FACT. Emcee Hev D is Hip Hop's most slept on and that crap really ticks me off. Hev is about the only MC that can rock a mic without vulgarity. I'm a huge fan of hardcore and gangsta rap that being said I prefer some vulgarity here and there. But Hev stuff was just as raw without all that. RIP to the Legendary Emcee Hev D.

[@commentbeast3985]

Still dont til this day

[@jeremiahwoodsi4202]

Yes in dididlly diddily deed

[@zameeronex777]

RIP Heavy D, never heard a bad word on that man!

[@supreme3067]

And, you never will true a soul that they dont make anymore these days.

[@MrShaheedone]

You never will. He was a very good man.

[@GrapevineEnt]

I grew up not far from Mount V. I heard Hev was a bully at times and Trouble T Roy was always a shit starter that ran behind his brother if he started losing. These are other Jamaicans telling me this not just some random Mount V people. Nobody is perfect.

[@supreme3067]

@@GrapevineEnt Dwight was NEVERRRRR A BULLY! ONE OF REALEST DUDES EVER!

[@supreme3067]

@@GrapevineEnt Sorry wrong info. I grew up with Dwight went to school with him. Hev, was a peacemaker not with the B.S. #facts. T Roy can't speak for him #RIP, knew him, went to school with him too. But, was closer to Dwight. Heavy D was not that dude for mayhem in fact he took alot of lossess because of the brothers in his entourage, especially during touring.

[@joeruck]

CL is CRIMINALLY underrated, dude was up there lyrically with Nas, Biggie, Pac, Redman, etc. His TROY verse is a true hip hop classic. Much love to CL smooth.

[@robhansen8698]

Joe Ruck Thank for Talk My your time to listen! Please do me a solid and hit like and subscribe. It would help a lot . We hav a lot of great stuff comming up!

[@joeruck]

ROB Hansen will do brother, great interview with a hip hop great.

[@odellsumter805]

You are soooo right in saying he’s criminally underrated. This is my favorite rapper of all time

[@lukata77]

Joe Ruck YES YES YES!!!!! You are so right, C.L. is one of my top favorite lyricists of all time but his name is never ever mentioned...smdh!

[@sirterry3692]

Agreed 100%

[@dwaigntyndal]

He just described what mid 80s beef felt and look like... A "Fair One", violence yes but no guns. Amazing story

[@DropAGemTV]

Real talk! Thank ms for listening, Take a minute and hit subscribe if it’s not too much trouble, Thanks!✊🏾

[@Powerule23]

And he kept it a buck by admitting he was hurt in a fight, which a whole lot of dudes will fake. I'm willing to listen to a man say he can rock someone when they admit they been rocked.

[@karaghana4715]

No guns in the 80's? LOL! Man the 80's was gun crazy! It was the beginning of the crack era when people started getting good money & were able to by guns like crazy.

[@whereuwannabe7796]

Optimus Prime you have a romanticized memory of the 80's I got quite a few friends who got shot and killed in the 80's. Maybe not where you from but Brooklyn was hot.

[@Powerule23]

To say "no guns" is a stretch. We had a few guns in BK back in the 80's. Basically, one gun in a crew of say 10 people. Today, there are far more guns by virtue of southern distribution along the blackmarket. TRUE STORY: In 1982, it took me about six months to buy a .38 Smith & Wesson that had a broken firing pin. In other words, I spent money on a gun that couldn't do anything but back someone off on a verbal threat. (It was all I could get my hands on). Today, if you want a gun in NYC, the only thing stopping you is money because the supply source is present. There was no CONSISTENT supply chain for guns in NYC in the early 80's. That being said, what few guns we had back then were actually being used proactively. We had a massive murder and robbery rate in the mid-80's due to unemployment, poverty, and post 60's racism. Today, dudes keep their guns at home, largely due to stop & frisk. "Fair ones" still exist, but not like back in the day when we practiced slap boxing on a regular to keep our hands proper. Today, dudes still squabble, but not quite the way personal beef was once settled. Today, dudes don't mix it up like back in the day, because almost everyone has an accessible gun that they can stand behind. It's simply a different world. Back in the day, the roughest dudes in the 'hood were nice with their hands; today, they claim to be shooters.

[@NativeTribe2024]

C.L Smooth is one of the most underrated MC' s in Hip Hop history.... Rest In Power Heavy D and Trouble T-Roy 👐👐💪💪✊✊💯💯

[@robertfullerjr802]

The Main Ingredient album was no joke Str8 up masterpiece 🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤✌

[@NativeTribe2024]

Robert Fuller Jr That Mecca and The Soul Brotha was a straight bonafied classic as well my brother. ✊

[@robertfullerjr802]

@@NativeTribe2024 yeah I know Sir but Jasmine (my daughter) was born in 94 so I kinda focused more on that albums music...i dropped out of college a year after Mecca and the Soul brother ..out of focus at that time 😁✌

[@youknowwhoyouare2269]

Is it me, or was nothing specifically mentioned on the record? I don't know how I feel about going into their private lives with dead Peoples- these generations nowadays are too nosy🥷

[@JayKofa]

"T.R.O.Y." (They Reminisce Over You) Has ALWAYS Will Be One Of My Favorite Joints. I Was 8 When It Came Out And I Was Captivated Ever Since. Because, I Was Such A Heavy D & The Boys Fan, Finding Out That Troy Had Passed Broke My Heart. Then When I Found Out That "T.R.O.Y." Was Dedicated To Him, It Made The Song That More Moving. So, Now Hearing The Depths Of Their Experiences, Makes Me RESPECT "T.R.O.Y." To No End.

[@si-lince6818]

..... WERD I feel U.... I WAS 10 and that summer was sumthing else over here in the B-MORE, HARM SH_TTEE sector of the U-N-I-VERSE! PEACE TO HIP HOP!

[@MrShaheedone]

My gaawwwd.

[@tburna187]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@PolyCube71]

I was 21. I really was into that album and i really enjoy listening to it today. Back then they had a story to tell while rappin'. Today i understand zero.

[@spudmckenzie9429]

This song and Peaceful Journey were heavily felt 🙏🏿🕊

[@CainaanDC]

this is why hip hop was golden back then . They rapped about real shit that happened in there lives. Not fake trap house stories .

[@Queenalika85]

Exactly

[@FukWhiteSuprmecy]

Preach.

[@pandroidigital]

👉🏾their👈🏾 lives

[@DevastatorJr]

Wow, he says he doesn't talk much, but he's a great storyteller.

[@richardtharpejunior7912]

Exactly!👍

[@vincenzocox9324]

You mean that in a good way or a not so good way?

[@DevastatorJr]

@@vincenzocox9324 In a good way.

[@ninadash4652]

He's from Mount Vernon, I'm from Harlem. He narrated that story like a lot of older cats from my hood used to do. You can't rush them, you just gotta sit back and take it all in!.

[@ninadash4652]

Ron Davis. Awww, thank you Ron. Now you got me blushing.

[@devonpenn4643]

I keep telling people, that NY people tell stories different than other cities. We add mad elements, spices, sounds, colors and most importantly...Grit, thats what make our stories epic!...NYC grit lol..lol..lol.

[@ninadash4652]

Devon Penn. Totally epic...Love it!

[@ninadash4652]

Ron Davis. I'm not on the gram. On FB it's Lynette Lovezit. (You will see a pic of my lips)

[@dramahawkpromotions9621]

Hey I'm not mad at all. I'm an adult I don't mind sitting listening to an untold story. Stuff like this cant be made up.

[@GoodBeardDay]

Damn this was captivating as hell. Made me feel like I was there. Dope. R.I.P T-Roy and Heavy D.

[@t.c.o.g.773]

ahmirr worddddd

[@missingivanhittingbuttons2219]

ahmirr Man, I had no idea about that beef!

[@mrhudah]

Exactly! The way he told the story made me feel like I was there. Yo, C, if you reading this write a song about that fight and shout Mr. Hudah. From a disaster a beautiful relationship can grown. Keep Banging. So many classics man!!!👍🏾☺️

[@alstonl333]

I haven't heard a situation told like this in a long time.Thats crazy.Word ,Respect to GOD.

[@shawnajohnson5307]

@@mrhudah sho nuff

[@MusicMan1470]

Therefore we must ignore, fightin and fussin Hev is at the door so there'll be no bum-rushin

[@mynamemeanschurch6825]

.......salute

[@thatbemefool]

Music-Man - 🙌🏾..... And we’re still falling apart....brothers still shooting one another. We HAVE SELF DESTRUCTED! **Notice we weren’t blaming The Man back then. We were talking about accountability which is taboo today.**

[@MusicMan1470]

MsKMD, sad conclusion, hard to co-sign, but it is the truth. One

[@thatbemefool]

Music-Man - "Love your Brother....treat him as an equal!" The change can start there. Be well Music Man!

[@MusicMan1470]

Yes it can, MsKMD. Thanks, Peace & Blessings to you.

[@geecheetone8550]

3:10: "....marinatin' and sautein' his broad" . Lol

[@DropAGemTV]

😂😂😂😂😂 thanks for taking the time to listen and comment. Please hit subscribe!! ✊🏾

[@missayawk]

I need a drink ( straight Henny) to listen to this story....the linguistic style of C.L brings me back to those days

[@si-lince6818]

Tha OLDER GODZ never disappoint!! Werd!

[@thdoom81]

he has that new york talk

[@CodyCole80]

💯 It seems like people had real, genuine friends back in the day. No one ever tries to stop beef today; most allow it to escalate and record it with cell phones for entertainment. Now, majority of friendships are fake and people only gravitate to each other for what they think they can gain. Also, People will turn on you according to what opportunities they think they can get. 🙁

[@nakitapalmer656]

Codycole80 I must say..one of the most honest and truthful comments I've seen by far.

[@jenuwinmoore9258]

Codycole80 Hard facts. Sad truth.

[@carloscazar1406]

I remember meeting him at my boys crib, New Rochelle...Real melo and kept to himself type of dude. Cool story...

[@DropAGemTV]

Peace King, Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment! We have so much more comming up!! Blessings!

[@DappadanD87]

Man I feel like I'm there at the fight in front of Big Lou's...#TheyReminisceOverYou

[@DropAGemTV]

Real talk! Never heard before! A rare “Gem” on the “Drop a Gem Show” Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment. If you havnt already hold me down and subscribe! ✊🏾

[@norrilsk3273]

Even seein CL smooth without the music takes me back to the early 90s. Great fuckin times

[@zealousjay1993]

I would've never thought Trouble T Roy could be as harsh CL Smooth described Him as ... I never thought that ... RIP T Roy .. Shoutout CL

[@geraldjohnson3216]

Johnny Smith same on u trouble t-roy

[@therealflamelit]

T Roy was no pushover believe that

[@dramahawkpromotions9621]

Yes the things u find out.

[@rgw1380rw]

His name was Trouble T Roy, so that may be an eye opener right there.

[@Drayton42677]

Now, that’s how you move forward after a beef is squashed. A true third party will always have best interests at heart

[@rhuttrho88]

"Hev is at the door, so there'll be no bum rushin!"💪

[@DropAGemTV]

Thanks for listening! Hold me down and hit subscribe! ✊🏾

[@DiggumSmack77]

This is the second or third time that I'm hearing HEV kept the peace in somebody beef.

[@kapovellithapimp9722]

Diggum Smack77 NAH son WATERBED HEV

[@lezlethal]

If you carry yourself like Hev did you get respect. Not even on the street level but as a man.

[@rgw1380rw]

@@lezlethal There are people out there that are respected enough to stop a known killer that's holding a pistol in his hand from killing another man over a woman. I know someone who did just that.

[@StLaRok]

I got chills when he started speaking on Heavy D squashing the beef. RIP 🙏🏽

[@SonDialer]

Thats why CL will always be one of the biggest creative influences for me.. Son is soulful as hell.. One of may favorite joints was the Jazz thing he did with Greg Osby, thats how much I was on it.. wish we had more of his art in the world today. CL if you see this get at me..

[@GregOsby]

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[@SonDialer]

Greg Osby Wow!!! Honored...

[@fourdevils694]

Interviewers need to stop all of the "No Doubts", "Right", "Facts" and "Umm"'s inbetween CL explaining things. Just keep quiet and let him drop jewel

[@CS-mo7xp]

well that's exactly what you hear pete rock saying in the background when cl rhymes on their tracks :)

[@KhariShootYourShot92]

@@CS-mo7xp and that shit be sounding dope haha

[@zealousjay1993]

Damn Heavy D squashing beef ... Why I'm not surprised ..

[@Bxbomba2010]

lost him too early , rip Heavy D

[@rgw1380rw]

When you have love and respect from many, you can put certain things to rest.

[@missayawk]

Because Hev is in the house there'll be no bum rushing

[@mrhudah]

Dammmm! Hearing CL Speak is like listening to his rhymes. Wonderful!!! Listen man, if you reading this C, I’m on of your biggest fans. I cop your mu$ic!! Love it ALL. Keep going man. We need your style........on your next joint make a song about the fight you had with Troy. Not to glamorize it, but to show how an awesome relationship can bud from disaster!!!! Keep Rocking!!!!!! 😃

[@roberthansen771]

mrhudah Tha is for listening and commenting! Please take a minute to subscribe ✊🏾

[@mrhudah]

Robert Hansen can you see that I’m not a subscriber? Do you see that I liked the video?😧

[@T.T.C.tv9323]

He was the truth

[@mrhudah]

Edsco he still is, all we need to do is $upport his music.

[@raymondsims4324]

Every October 8th, I bump T.R.O.Y. On that day to celebrate with C.L. Smooth because we share Borndays. Peace C.L.

[@si-lince6818]

PEACE 2 U SUN!

[@theonlyseparation464]

It’s my birthday too!

[@michaelj.smithph.d.9114]

Been listening a lot to Pete Rock & CL a lot during the pandemic. Both of their albums were good, but “Mecca...” is an all timer, it’s a legendary American story and song. This interview brings the entire story into HD clarity! Thank you and CL!❤️🖤💚🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾👍🏾

[@DropAGemTV]

Thank you for listening my brother!!!

[@desmondwilliams4068]

If Heavy D were still alive, Pete and CL would still be a group....

[@jasonmunnerlynsr2780]

They split while he was alive

[@craigdavis4265]

C.L.Smooth is a true legend.

[@missayawk]

Thanks C.L for being real on the story....not no B.S stuff....just keeping it real...not being no super hero....fist to fist....guns should never appear in a fair one.

[@earlfranchise7506]

This story's a tear jerker man.

[@seanmacattram9043]

6650087276

[@thdoom81]

why

[@NONcorrupt]

Damn that was deep , Thanks for this interview !

[@DropAGemTV]

Absolutely, Thanks for listening. Appreciate it! Hold me down and subscribe to the channel!✊🏾

[@dramahawkpromotions9621]

yes it was

[@seanmacattram9043]

Hit

[@therealflamelit]

His nickname was TROUBLE for a reason, Im just gonna say that....RIP TROY

[@thdoom81]

he sounded like a hater

[@ALBERTEINSTEIN777]

I HAVE NEVER KNOWN ABOUT THIS. THIS IS CRAZYYYY. THIS INTERVIEW IS SO RARE.

[@theambitlady]

I really appreciate CL coming out to do this interview. I’m happy to know the story behind this song that will always be a foundation to the pillars of great Rap artists. I wish you a long Life CL. Thank you for sharing this. 🦋🙏🌼

[@boxingswarriorspirit]

Cl smooth's conversations are great 👍

[@growngrownman5950]

You guys always deliver great interviews. Thanks for sharing!

[@DropAGemTV]

Man I appreciate you listening!!

[@MrSimZOldSchoolRev]

Wow, great story CL... always been a massive Heavy D fan - he don't get enough credit for his contribution to rap.

[@rickdavenport9538]

That straighten out video was the shit. Slow motion on Pete Rocks' Nikes.

[@jaycooper2685]

Them throwback Nike huarache I had a couple pair of those back in the day 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@earlfranchise7506]

I can see a biopic from this alone. Powerful.

[@roberthansen771]

Earl Franchise real talk! Never heard before! Drop a gem exclusive!!

[@earlfranchise7506]

Right! And since I was a fan at 12 growing up in the same city, I had no knowledge of this piece of history. This is mindblowin bro.

[@missayawk]

Hev was the 👑 of Mt.Vernon.I remember him being one of the 1st ppl driving an SUV....I think it was an all white Landcruiser....R.I.P to the dancing one!

[@shawntyson4339]

He probably had that gold blazer first...

[@drob7440]

@@shawntyson4339 it was the gold blazer with Heavy D on the side back windows in white. These folk spitting bad on Heavy didn't know him. He was at my house not long after he signed his record deal. He broke bread with my family before and after his success.

[@GHedge]

@patrick y Heav had 2 Trucks a Yellow montero first, then later the land cruiser. I used to call it the ice cream truck. Like the Good Humor Joint!

[@missayawk]

@@GHedge I remember passing him on Fulton Ave in that Land Cruiser like it was yesterday and it was about 30yrs ago

[@maribelvillafuerte2392]

Montero

[@Tenasedeinc]

Great interview

[@worldrenown4057]

Nice interview, good to hear from CL

[@DropAGemTV]

Thanks for listening and commenting. Talks a second to subscribe to the channel if it’s not too much trouble, it would help a great deal!

[@SixTenVisuals]

The story of T-Roy's demise is mysterious in that they never said who pushed the big garbage can down the ramp that made him fall over the edge.

[@tmat2024]

Not gonna lie but Pete, CL Smooth, and even Heavy D REALLY blew up after his demise. Just finished watching an Unsung on Pete. It just doesn't sit right with me. Also Pete and CL Smooth's debut EP, All Souled Out. I know about puns, but could it really be true? They Sold Out...to the god of the music industry? Of course, this is all speculation.

[@PlanetNinetyTwo]

​@@tmat2024Not you again. Dude why's it so hard for you to believe that T Roy's death was an accident?

[@tmat2024]

@PlanetNinetyTwo That's why I added it was speculative. There is no turning back for me now. Check out Heavy D's Big Tyme album cover. The black pyramid's capstone is pointing directly at Trouble T. He got it...Big Time.

[@Chris-w2q]

​@tmat2024 what difference does it make bro?

[@tmat2024]

@@Chris-w2q Lots. The music industry seems like a witch coven.

[@Theonlychild1988]

GREAT STORY! I saw Heavy D and the Boyz at The Star Palace in Youngstown, OH when they were only performing “Mr. Big Stuff” and maybe “Chunky But Funky”. After the shows, my cousins and I would go to the tour buses in the back, HEAVY was always kind to the fans, signing autographs, taking pictures with my older girl cousins. ONE OF THE NICEST CELEBS I’VE EVER MET: Top 5 NICEST CELEBS I’VE MET: Heavy D Whodini KRS ONE MARY J BLIGE ANTHONY MACKIE

[@mssunshine3450]

Wow....Youngstown, Ohio...that's my hometown.

[@thefunkyirishmunk484]

such a great story! love the channel mate!

[@DropAGemTV]

Thank you for listening and for the kind words brother! I’m glad you enjoy it. We have a lot more great stuff on the way! Bless!

[@himreddy1553]

*"Its ALWAYS a Choice.....U just Gotta Pick the Right One.......And it Took a Leader"* #SMOOTH

[@caligirl3000]

We grew up in the same neighborhood. I lived on 212th St in QV. Cory's sister Pam & I were best friends from 135 to Van Buren. I always wonder where is she now. I left for the military in the 90's. It's sad how T-Roys life ended & all the unnecessary beef.

[@julaniemoreno7171]

caligirl3000 I'm from 210 place qv

[@caligirl3000]

@@julaniemoreno7171 small world. QV up up up!!!!

[@caligirl3000]

@Qu_ Hectic sweet.

[@tallynsummers1540]

55 Sheridan Ave Round the corner from Hev

[@daxterclark5092]

Much respect to C.L.Smooth......rest in peace trouble T-Roy and Heavy D!!!

[@josephsteward6084]

Much respect to CL Smooth one of my favorite MCs ever.

[@krazethekingofcontent]

Good Interview

[@1977scoe]

Hev was a SOLID dude R.I.P. 🙏🏿

[@tonegee1083]

Yo I remember them cook outs heavy d use to throw back in the days we coming from Yonkers NY to mount Vernon I remember them days epic

[@garkah]

Was it true about the Ygz snuff Pete Rock in front of Heavy D at one of those cookouts!

[@tonegee1083]

garkah CL got ran out of Mt Vernon by the YGz but I never heard of that happening to Pete rock heavy D was like a GOD in the Vernon

[@BXCOWBOY718]

+garkah Yes I heard he was chased outta Wilson...

[@Nigmatics]

Tone Gee not sure about the cookout snuff but I wouldn’t doubt it. the YGz def terrorized Pete rock for a minute. He looked them out and got them a deal at Elektra but it fell through for whatever reason and they blamed him for it.

[@garkah]

@@Nigmatics Yeah I still got the Street Nigga EP. They also did a track called groove on.Then nothing heard from them after that except what you said about the record deal.

[@kapovellithapimp9722]

This aint dancing this is ... THE DANCE

[@black169escalade]

Amazing shit that CL said, just an incredible story and memory and makes T.R.O.Y. even that much a classic.

[@AaronThipthacoach22]

CL Smooth. You are a G.O.A.T ...I Met you one time back in 94 Wit my Bro 25 (Two Five) at the Barbershop. You're one of my Inspirations💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🔥🔥🔥

[@rodan5052]

To my man! To my man! To my man! ( BizMarkie voice) C.L.’s verbs were magnificent! I loved the work ethic of Pete and C.L. cause I’ve always felt they can never put out anything that wasn’t righteous for the street listeners, the spiritual ones, mother’s, fathers, loved ones here and gone! Albums were always thorough!!! Blessings to the Gods of HIPHOP!!

[@feet9100]

CL is a true brother

[@dogsandyoga1743]

T.R.O.Y. is 3rd on my list of greatest hip hop songs of all time. I never knew that line had such a deep background story. RIP Trouble T and Heavy D

[@epiclegend8547]

He sounds exactly how Beanie sounded on Taxstone when speaking about the Meek Mill situation.

[@DropAGemTV]

Thanks for listening and commenting. Hold me down and subscribe!✊🏾✊🏾

[@garysmith8073]

An underrated MC THAT SHOULD BE UP THERE WITH LL COOL J , Biggie, Nas and more. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ANOTHER PETE ROCK &CL SMOOTH ALBUM.

[@angiemaq]

Man! This story embodies everything that makes Black men as awesome as they are. I love hearing this....it has made my day...for some reason, I feel the need to be creative....

[@thdoom81]

really? fighting over a girl makes black men awesome?

[@si-lince6818]

Our-story not his-tory.... HIP HOP 4 EVER

[@shasmagazine_corner7642]

Heavy saved the day, bless him because it could’ve gotten worse.

[@zealousjay1993]

Finally been wanting to know what was the beef between Smooth n Troy

[@luvbig41]

It's always over a woman.

[@dramahawkpromotions9621]

I'm bugging out never knew they had beef.

[@zealousjay1993]

@@dramahawkpromotions9621 yeah I was never paying too much mind to the line "T to the R O Y How did You and I meet in front of Big Lou's Fightin in the Street"

[@dramahawkpromotions9621]

Johnny Smith Yes me too until now

[@zealousjay1993]

@@dramahawkpromotions9621 it's crazy ... It's not like I paid no mind to the lyrics because I didn't care .. I did care but .. At the time there were no details on the situation and I thought NOBODY would ever speak on it .. So I left it alone .... Well here We are now .... Hearing the story .. Very good story

[@madimakes]

In front of big Lou’s fightin in the street … love this deep dive…my mans knows how to spin a yarn!

[@str8dollarsigns]

alright I know this is supposed to be serious but I died when he said he got punched in the head and started wondering where the cars at...lmao when i reminisce over this my god

[@darrellalston2103]

Dudes gotta recognize what they do around other dude's girls. Every dude I seen being the center of attention around another dude girl had larceny in his heart.

[@douglascrudup8902]

Darrell Alston well CL not known to be a Liar...if you honest then you have nothing to worry about

[@KelzKelz]

Bullshit!! Sometimes the girls be thinking some other shit.

[@darrellalston2103]

Why would T.R.O.Y. take it to the max? CL Smooth said he tried to kill him with his money, style, etc. (Here he come with his new Jordans) TROY was a star at the time, what reason did he have to take it to the max with CL Smooth.

[@desmondwilliams4068]

This ain't dancing this is the dance....

[@rahmansundiata7475]

Love C.L. SMOOTH WORD 2 GOD

[@jaayeee24]

This story encapsulates my childhood.

[@djcutarekord]

I wish Hip Hop would've stayed pure.

[@thdoom81]

nah those dudes were very grimey

[@tmat2024]

Never was pure. That kind of image was manifested because people-the listeners yearned for that image.

[@reggieburris]

Real deep shit from a legend about two resting legends.

[@30k415]

Golden! Heavy was a well loved and respected man when he was on this planet.

[@bigcitydreamz4444]

Yo I move up to Mt. Vernon from Harlem went to Robert Fulton. I had to fight almost everyday in school some those fights turn us into best friends. I meet Heavy D at the barber shop on 4th ave. My older cousin went to high school with him and introduced me to him. That when Mt Vernon was Money Earning. Man Heavy D turn Willson Woods pool parties to an event. He was a showmen always spoke positive back by facts. RIP Heavy and Troy..

[@bigkeezo]

Man I just found your channel and love all this old school stories 👍🏾 #70sbaby

[@DropAGemTV]

Thanks brother! I appreciate that. We have so much more comming up! Preserve the Culture! Hold me down and subscribe if it’s not too much trouble! Salute!!

[@dramahawkpromotions9621]

Damn this was Deep what a story!

[@erwinrogers9470]

Great conversation 🔥

[@mansamusa2056]

Wow...great interview great story

[@DropAGemTV]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@theyoungcommander]

This dude got a sick mouthpiece.

[@naazthesoulbrother4069]

After that situation, they carried the “Warriors Code💪🏾”...nothing but respect👍🏾

[@globestrollah8312]

I needed that. Thanks

[@prestonhester7291]

"In front of big Lou's fighting in the street.."

[@craigdavis4265]

R.I.P. Trouble T-Roy and Heavy D!!!

[@dramahawkpromotions9621]

Wowwwwwwwwww Funny the things u find out years later.

[@everydaydre1185]

Dramahawk Promotions as it should be that a the problem nowadays things the public should know we are unaware of and things that are not our business we know all to well.

[@everydaydre1185]

Dramahawk Promotions all that talk can taint things

[@dramahawkpromotions9621]

@@everydaydre1185 I agree people be knowing too much nowadays. It can mess things up. Now we got all these Mr and Ms now it all out HERE.

[@gullybop1695]

That's what I call real rap!!

[@robertfullerjr802]

POWERFUL lyricist 🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤✌

[@gullybop1695]

@@robertfullerjr802 CL Smooth blazed his own trails within the lores of Hip Hop!!

[@robertfullerjr802]

@@gullybop1695 ...indeed peeps✌

[@seanmacattram9043]

U

[@DCBCHANNELDAATHCHOMAHBINAH]

Damn CL can tell a story even while he is talking. CL is also a nasty MC

[@anthonymoody6711]

The Mecca Don. Glad they squashed all that and became family. R.I.P. T-Roy and Hev.

[@duart310]

CL was the most abstract and poetic of the MCs of his generation, hands down period. A pure artist

[@torianmcneill3794]

Hardly cursed in his lyrics rappers today can’t drop a verse without cussing Heavy D is another one R I P Heavy

[@craigdavis4265]

This is real Hip Hop my friend.

[@darrylb.roberts7181]

For someone who says they don't talk a lot, that's a long ass story.

[@Vandalio_Saez]

CL over a pete rock beat is smoother than Remy on the rocks!!! 🔥

[@supreme3067]

#RIPBIGLOU just recently passed away. & #TROUBLET-ROY

[@Bobby_Digital37]

Man that was dope story!! RIP Heavy 🙏🏽

[@underyourskins]

Thats the reason Heavy got so far with his career..

[@tr8086]

Sacrifice

[@dramahawkpromotions9621]

@TR808 SACRIFICE????

[@kingsports1113]

Blood sacrifice Troy

[@underyourskins]

@@kingsports1113 I saw some guy doing the numerology on him and its not good.. It could be true.

[@bxboro4662]

The Bronx, NYC in here! Got family up in Mt. Vernon, by way of Harlem.

[@garysmith8073]

THE MAIN INGREDIENT WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST HIP HOP ALBUMS .

[@DropAGemTV]

Agree 100 % Tbanks for listening and commenting. Hold me down and subscribe! ✊🏾

[@justaloe]

Wow! I have tears in my eyes.

[@DropAGemTV]

Very deep Gem right here! Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment please subscribe!✊🏾

[@tr8086]

Sacrifice......

[@michaelj.smithph.d.9114]

For real, that was nice to see a dude sacrificing for his kids the way my Dad sacrificed or my brother and I....that’s what a man does! Trap dudes need to listen carefully to what this man said.