Clapton and Townshend Full Interview Saturday Matters - 1989

[@prathameshbhambure]

Great interview. So much has happened since then!

[@clattybrown3]

wow two true guitar kings, both still in the top 10 today

[@jamesball5743]

Pete isn’t even top 25

[@nonrepublicrat]

@@jamesball5743 you ain't even top 80,000,000 in anything.

[@SwampEye1]

@@jamesball5743 You have no clue ... guitar playing is not only speed wanking

[@davemakarchuk5127]

@@jamesball5743 Clown.

[@kevinstimelsky673]

@@jamesball5743.. 1000% wrong on that

[@MattSmith-iq1ld]

Eric would not be alive without Townshend. It's terrible that the latest Clapton documentary didn't address the fact that Peter was the only guy allowed in Clapton's house while he was locked up with heroin. He convinced him to do the Rainbow gig, the Tommy film......and that led to Meg Patterson, his recovery and 461 Ocean Blvd.

[@westbayk2156]

YES! Thank you! Dont blame Pete for Claptons shoddy material in the 80s though......

[@MrDino1953]

461 Ocean Blvd was such a flaccid disappointment and so were many if not all his albums from then on in the 1970’s and 1980’s.

[@davidrice3337]

while credit has been given to Pete - as it should - this notion that Pete was the only person allowed in Eric's home simply isn't true - Eric Clapton and his then girlfriend weren't hermits either - Eric went thru a dark time no question and struggled with depression , heroin and alcohol use - but he was not dysfuntional by any means - This narrative has been blown out of proportion - his alcohol use was much more destructive than snorting heroin -

[@davidrice3337]

@@MrDino1953 maybe a disappointment to those who assumed the type of sound would be similar to his previous recordings - Actually it was a great record and still withstands the test of time -

[@davidrice3337]

@@MrDino1953 your opinion isn't shared by most - thankfully - maybe if you knew guitar and had any ability as a musician you would understand it - don't knock what you can't comprehend - just sayin

[@babyshambler]

Pete loves Eric. Always did.

[@SpaceCattttt]

Even for 1989, this picture quality is stunning.

[@gr.vo.3058]

Yeah. That era was like watching TV and listening to music with beer googles on.

[@georgerichardson7728]

ha ha

[@margaretgordy3826]

I was lucky enough to be in the audience at this show at the BBC in 1989...Pete filmed his video segment earlier think it was " I'm not gonna run anymore" from solo album " Iron Man " very special check it out...Patti Labelle was guest on Sue Lawley tv show that night as she was the Acid Queen for Tommy benefit at RAH ...wonderful memory!!

[@guitarman1477]

Did Pete not feel your arse?

[@MattSmith-iq1ld]

What some people don't understand is that these two guys truly are friends. Beyond just what they share musically. I really feel that if Pete had not made it a point to save Eric's life in the early 70's, he wouldn't be with us today. Everyone talks about the Rainbow Concert. What they don't mention was that Pete was the only man allowed into Eric's house for a solid 2 years after the Dominos busted up. There was something about Pete that allowed Clapton to see the way out. And as is mentioned in the interview, Pete got heavily involved in heroin and cocaine in the early 80's. He actually saw the same doctor who cured Eric of smack addiction, Meg Patterson, in California in January 1982. The magic black box cure. Look it up!

[@johntuttle4486]

@@alexjerome5429 No, it is true.

[@alexjerome5429]

@@johntuttle4486 defend Clapton all you want. He stole George's wife, can barely get out of a pentatonic scale, and in over 60 (sixty!) Years had less than a handful of "half decent" songs. His contribution to the music world is significantly insignificant. Besides all that, he was not a good person. Don't be mad at me or the truth. Don't compare clapton to Pete

[@vierralditjipta3827]

@@alexjerome5429 you're pathetic. get a life!

[@alexjerome5429]

@@vierralditjipta3827 you can't get mad at the truth azshole

[@andyc5392]

@@alexjerome5429 with John Mayall, Cream, Blind Faith, Derek and the Dominoes…any one of these alone were huge standout contributions to music at large…

[@jamesyuille9534]

1989 and still relevant.

[@davidwhite2949]

Enjoyed this. Eric, always charming. Pete, an old philosopher.

[@TheEdie1958]

Moulin Rouge geneflecting guitar mannerisms and the ballad windmills of my mind reminiscent. Staying power and longevity your penchant for innovation and ingenuity. Cheers Sir Eric and Peter.

[@hyacinthlynch843]

"We're superior musicians." Damn straight!

[@nov20five]

Two great guitarists!

[@tomq5180]

being a huge who fan ive seen many townsend interviews..he never disappoints..charming witty thoughtful..all of that..i enjoyed clapton too..its neat that all these british blokes are friends..the who, stones, beatles, cream..what an era! although i believe pete was jealous of the beatle's success..he did alright though..a flat out musical genius! carried the who by his songwriting..the only songwriter in the group..but what a group! one of the best bass players, the BEST drummer ( imho) and daltrey could/ can really belt it out!

[@bluecollar825]

John Entwistle. The first lead bassist in rock imho. Moon was just a force of nature. I love The Who too lol. I used to get shit about it growing up. I brought it on myself by trying to turn everyone on to them, but that besides the point lol.💯✌

[@ursulabornhauser1091]

Nice interview😊love you eric😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@guillaumerumeau9218]

LEGENDS

[@NorthernBandit1]

To help say Happy Birthday to one of my favorite Guitar players and the other guy with him ( Pete Townshend ) watch this interview in Britian in 1989 and listen closely to the conversation...here you have a couple of good friends getting along very well...and Pete playing the Blues on TV with Eric...cool stuff...also in rememberence of "The RainBow Concert" in 1973...Erics reintroduction to the stage in glorious fashion. Good listen too! Thanx for sharing!

[@richardcolton1009]

Pete and Garcia are both tremendous being interviewed

[@toreckman8899]

Thanks for sharing. Love the banter. Wouldn’t get that in America

[@Arkipelago2]

I LOVE PETE TOWNSHEND !!!!!!!!!!

[@lynnturman8157]

Thank you for uploading this! Two of my rock heroes & the only time I've ever seen them together!!

[@christineayres5339]

Eric is right the bands even today have no lifespan and are what i call fast food pop bands

[@edstein5642]

If you’ve any interest in this interview & Eric & Pete’s relationship you MUST listen to the Rainbow Concert extended CD. Pete assembled a band to showcase Eric’s music after Eric emerged from heroin addiction & seclusion. The “Rainbow Concert” jump-started Eric’s declining career & proved he wasn’t an imminent drug casualty.

[@LindaMerchant-bq2hp]

2 rock guitarist legends❤❤

[@fgd1256]

Pete always a sensible and sensiere human being.

[@greenmorris37]

It is sad to hear Clapton talking about his son, when you think what was to occur not long after. But then again it changed him once more, Clapton somebody that really has lived "the blues", which is why he's so good.

[@alexjerome5429]

Shut up already

[@MikeDiCiero]

breaks my heart

[@judyburton8923]

@@alexjerome5429 ... Dude, how RUDE!

[@Leo-uc8zv]

Alex Jerome exactly he killed his son. He wasn’t living the fucking blues he was a household name at the age 20

[@mushtaqbhat1895]

Pete seems to me to be a very sensible poet albeit reflecting the harder and darker side of life beside being a composer and a guitarist of some spectacular rock compositions. The four piece band could soar and descend into crescendos like an Wagnerian orchestra and that without much sound effects and manipulations. Kinda raw vitality and acoustical dynamic! And the lyrics and Rogers singing accomplished the rest. Great works.

[@markkelly3859]

Clapton says they (musicians) sometimes do it better on stage. The Who Live at Leeds proves this. Amazing album. I prefer the original to the later extened version.

[@NowFunStarts]

I second that, and don`t forget Claptons double album Just One Night..

[@celestialteapot3310]

Another in depth interview from the towering intellect that is Sue Lawley

[@sirpops7]

RIP Conner Clapton.Three year's Old.

[@OlafProt]

Both finally sober. Both dealing well Sue Lawley being a total prat.

[@MrBrungers]

they play well together...

[@rockit6553]

Amazing how the British can laugh without an accent!!!! LOL!!!!!!

[@v-town1980]

The upper class can't.

[@markfernandes9715]

Clapton's best work was with Cream, Derek and the Dominoes and Blind Faith. As a songwriter Pete is ahead but as guitarists Eric is a better soloist. The Who had their best years when Eric was holed up and Pete helped him get out when no one else did.

[@dayleclarke4433]

Clapton's best guitar work was through the 80s and then his return to blues in the 90s. Peaking with 24 Nights and then he maintained the power of his 60s stuff with much better playing through to the 2000s.

[@Gen.Bread75]

@@dayleclarke4433 totally agree

[@meguono1267]

Thanks………

[@soscilogical1904]

need to upgrade the quality.

[@melissatyree566]

Wow, EC Talking about his son Connor. 😔 sad.

[@billvw1974]

Pete townsend is the most underated guitarist!

[@90warszawiak]

Kurwa, kalkulatorem nagrywane

[@mikeandstony]

I didn't realize he'd been playing clapton strats for 30 years wow.

[@raymondchollet3199]

The greatest rythim guitarist in rock. Pete!

[@dannydine5263]

Yes it is and Ronnie Wood is the third guitar player at the concert fulfilling all the slide guitar duties.

[@marthaworc7873]

I LOVE Townshend. This is not a knock against Clapton.

[@marthaworc7873]

Sorry, I haven't figured out how to edit a post yet -- only been commenting on this platform for about 7 days. Pete, that girl was right, you do have beautiful eyes. :)

[@bluecollar825]

Pete gets alot of hate. I don't get it. He never proclaimed himself a guitar prodigy. He wrote so many good songs from '65 to '80 imho he may just be unmatched in those years. Edit- here where he's talking about performing live all I can think of is the Beatles. I know they gave plenty of reasons as to why they stopped touring, but imho the truth is that they had become studio darlings. They were unable to reproduce their studio sound live so they just stopped playing/touring. Imho.✌

[@ChromeDestiny]

They needed better management is part of it, someone should have been fighting for them to get better gear and PAs. It happened at one show on the '65 tour in Atlanta, they should have demanded the same standards every time but I agree, a lot of it came down to being more comfortable in the studio and being semi retired too.

[@lynnturman8157]

Thanks. I will. Is that the concert when Townshend was trying to get Clapton off of heroin?

[@pabloperez4063]

Nooooo....this was "THE RAINBOW CONCERT", january 1973...And this IS around 1990..... I recommend you ThE aalbum "Rainbow Concert"

[@Attitude-royale]

08:39. Lol, "why the hell did you hit the wrong note!"

[@eliekfoury6959]

Not a wrong note at all

[@golds04]

So funny- Eric’s right- his guitar never has a tremelo.

[@OrkhanEfendi]

Please, what's the name of the song on this video? (approximately from 7:00)

[@oullahtakanebghikawilihbib9305]

why you repeat the same answer already done ?

[@alexjerome5429]

It's called anybody can. Play a simple 7 note pentatonic scale especially after playing over 50 years Clapton really really sucks

[@powowsett]

awesome!

[@DC-ih8bv]

Led Zeppelin had lightening quick success in America with Plant and Bonham being nearly amateurs. That didn’t sit well with a lot of the tight nit British boys club of musicians.The criticism was harsh from critics alike especially in Britain. Led Zeppelin also didn’t do media or interviews and travelled in a small group.They weren’t part of the Clapton- Hendrix - Lennon- Harrison - Townsend crowd. That pissed off Clapton and Townsend ( not all The Who) and I can add Keith Richards to the mix. They all thought highly of Jimmy but it was the LZ hard charging loud blues with a blonde headed screaming lead singer that they didn’t get.

[@ryann5247]

Maddona, rhianna and Eminem all out sold both of them too. Thats no measure of anything

[@DC-ih8bv]

@@ryann5247 a different time with videos , media and so forth . Zep was almost an underground band .

[@ryann5247]

@@DC-ih8bv lol led zeppelin was never an underground band... The went from being the remnants/replacements of the yardbirds (the biggest band in england) to instant hit on their own

[@DC-ih8bv]

@@ryann5247 hardly interviews or media. To hear them you bought the album to see them you went to the concert. Hardly a tv interview or media exposure that was in there control. Still to this day very little is available considering selling 225 million albums plus ..

[@DC-ih8bv]

@@ryann5247 Zep only had 8 albums as a band with no interviews , media or even writing in the album. They let the music speak for itself. The artists you mentioned are terrific but it was a different time .

[@LindaMerchant-bq2hp]

Since Tommy the film two old rockers friends

[@AndrewsOpinion15]

I LOVE ERIC CLAPTON !!!!!!!!!!

[@alexjerome5429]

You probably love Lady Gaga too

[@judyburton8923]

Me TOO,!!!!!

[@kathypop4]

@@alexjerome5429 What the hell is wrong with Lady Gaga? Now I know you're just an idiot who likes to call me nonsense

[@AndrewPaterson01]

eric the fifth beegee

[@CardiffBoy1927]

That is completely and utterly untrue; Page played on the sessions for The Who's first single: 'I can't explain'. He may have played on the B side, too, but that was is it.

[@IzthatafaC]

That's because in the old days they didn't have the multitracking they have these days so to do a take of a studio record they often employed session musicians. These days instruments are recorded individually and then quantised so they all fit together. That is why modern music has no soul... Anyway who cares about Who studio sessions? Their live performances were always so much better than what you heard on a single.

[@MojoWorkinBut]

Some really nice acoustic blues playing by Clapton. Better than much of his electric stuff.

[@alexjerome5429]

Not saying much of nothing at all

[@hyacinthlynch843]

Townshend was no slouch on the acoustic guitar either.

[@lib556]

OMG. To see Eric saying he doesn't need pain to inspire his writing. Then he chats about fatherhood. Then I remember his son would be dead within a year of this interview. So sad. I saw the Who on the 89 tour. Pete's hand was bandaged from the accident he talked about in this interview.

[@guitarman1477]

No more sad than anybody’s child dying, why big deal about his

[@kathypop4]

@@guitarman1477 Did they say it was more sad than anyone else's child's death? What a stupid comment. I don't see the point you were trying to make. Should they have commented about a random person's child's death on a video about Eric Clapton?

[@eargasm1072]

It was Pete who helped get Clapton out of his "heroin" estate where he'd been holed up over 2 years and kick his habit, got him back onstage at the Rainbow concert

[@laika5757]

Blackmore has and always will be my No1 Rock Guitarist. 🎼🎵🎶🎸

[@jasonkeith9317]

Who??

[@MagnumMuscle1000]

The Who could have used a great lead guitarist... wait they had Entwhistle.

[@MikeHunt90731]

Entwistle Einstein

[@kdeeuk]

the hd not very good is it

[@noahjohnson5380]

Did she seriously ask if he'd get electrocuted from a guitar?

[@Mr14monroe]

Kieth Relf of Yardbird fame died at 33 when he was electrocuted by his guitar. A bandmate of mine was knocked down by an arc from his microphone to his face when he touched his guitar at the same time. It's not common, but it can happen.

[@justafanintexas7913]

Relf died because the guitar was improperly grounded. He rigged the set-up and got it wrong.

[@woody816]

justafanintexas same as wat happened to Keith Richards

[@thedolphin5428]

Well, she IS a blonde.

[@neilpye6089]

@@Mr14monroe it is caused when the guitar is not wired properly (the electronics dont have the ground wire soldered properly) and les harvey from stone the crows died the same way

[@RandyFricke]

I just came in drawers...

[@BrianKishreviews]

check out the "Rainbow" concert

[@robertscoggin]

ho-hum. very cute right hand technique, blokes. I love some of their old stuff, (way before this interview) but I suspect super stardom stifles musical growth. Wow this is 25 years old...think they play any better now?

[@JustAnotherBlader]

Why does Eric constantly refer to himself as a gypsy? He’s lived in the same mansion for decades, that’s the total opposite of a gypsy lol. He just happens to be a touring musician that travels a lot.

[@thomastrout9997]

I think he was referring to "musically" a gypsy, in as much as he has played with a myriad of different people and groups, types of music etc. Much like theatrical performers are called gypsies because they are always "moving' on" like a gypsy caravan perhaps

[@JoshuaCraigStrain]

The British Royal ROCK Machine freaks me out , looking back at it all . They kinda made it look like this little organic English thing that exploded and took over internationally , but the more I check it out , it seems very orchestrated . I mean , arenas and corporations have been a huge part since the Beatles , so it's not some new startling revelation , but it's all just a bit weird .

[@Azoria4]

Look into the Tavistock institute

[@liamkirk3565]

@@Azoria4 Tell us more please

[@Azoria4]

@@liamkirk3565 basically that it was an off branch of the mi5/ cia specialising in culture control & that they picked up bands such as the Beatles and Rolling Stones to propagate notions of free love (to destroy the family unit) as well as that of taking psychedelics (lsd etc) - these were the intentions of the British Invasion from the get go. - side note, stones even did an album called upon her satanic majesties request. Also apparently the frequencies and format of the music keeps the brain in a certain wave pattern which sedates the individual some what rather than freeing them. I would like to say however I am a fan of the Beatles, not so much the Rolling Stones, and as individuals I think they’re great (besides Paul McCartney, he’s a bit too odd for my liking) but that doesn’t mean I don’t think they were government controlled or at least influenced, mostly through the period 1963-1968. At 16 I started using psychedelics heavily and in fairness they helped me out a lot and allowed me to go beyond illusions set up by culture - however this is because of me as an individual, I can easily see how they can fuck up a person and be used to create mass confusion, especially without the right guidelines and in the 60’s

[@liamkirk3565]

@@Azoria4 I was more of a Who fan and still am. I have been to a few meetings at the Tavistock and was not impressed. But that was the Tavistock showing its public face of treating disturbed families and not the darker elements of the establishment. By the British Invasion I assume that you are American where there is a history of CIA projects practising dark arts.

[@Luthiart]

Two very competent guitar players... Competent.

[@richardcolton1009]

why would you say such a stupid thing?

[@Luthiart]

@@richardcolton1009 You don't think they're competent? Well, I won't call you stupid for your opinion.

[@ScoobGruber]

Argh I hate the constant age jibes.

[@BrianKishreviews]

yup, it's not the greatest show but it's historically significant

[@greenmorris37]

Townshend is OK, but he's like a little boy that's been asked to play the guitar at the school assembly. The best moment is when he hits a bum note at 08:39 and Clapton gives him a "look".

[@alexjerome5429]

You're an idiot

[@alexjerome5429]

Never compare Clapton to Townshend

[@elkintobitle]

Sue looks like princess Diana, was that a strategy to gain more viewers?

[@bartstarr100]

They used to be really really fuzzy

[@Nutmegp]

It wouldn't be gay I'd be some kind of robot

[@00govan00]

.

[@unetfg]

Its hard to be around Pete Townsend but Eric seems to het along just fine

[@MikeHunt90731]

Learn how to spell Townshend genius 😅

[@racehemi426425]

Pete Townshend seems like a pretty cool dude but I consider Eric Clapton quite a bit better at guitar

[@bobwobbabble5151]

Besides Jimi no one did feedback better than Pete.

[@davemakarchuk5127]

From a purely technical perspective, Clapton is without question a better player. So if that's something you hold in high regard, well there you go. However, outside of the rock/blues players, Clapton isn't even in the same league as some. Yet I've never seen anyone close to Townshend on stage, as far as his level of energy, power and excitement is concerned. And it's not just because jumps around like a lunatic and windmills until blood streams down his hand (though that's part of it), but also because he's actually quite an exceptional guitar player who plays in a unique way and with absolutely no fear, which sometimes gets him into interesting situations, but that's what I love about him. Aside from that, in my opinion he is one of the most innovative musicians and the best song writer that rock and roll has ever had.

[@ChromeDestiny]

@@davemakarchuk5127 Pete was doing some incredible acoustic playing during '69 - '71 like the segue from Overture to It's a Boy on the original Tommy or Evolution with Ronnie Lane on Who Came First which I think is a '69 or '70 recording.

[@davemakarchuk5127]

@@ChromeDestiny There's also this kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKWcpJ-ngcSYidk

[@diverdave4056]

YIKES ... that Horrible interview ...

[@kshitijaurora9891]

Eric is Great, though a bit sad. Pete is Good, but talks too much.

[@ginamori8656]

People arent doin it for good anymore its all cooporate.

[@leeturiano4419]

One, is a God, Eric The other, a bitter Strummer, Pete. Lol

[@evesolis6133]

Townsend is far more open minded while Clapton is conservative, arrogant and repulsive to new things.

[@oullahtakanebghikawilihbib9305]

clapton is too arrogant you can t see it on the first sight but in every interview he s very very distant and arrogant .. too much in his ego while for example..towshend, gary moore, jeff beck are very accessible you feel their heart and their sensitivity

[@VegetabIeMan]

Oh fucking please. This is man that would refer to himself to "normal man." Not some fucking superstar bigot. For men to actually know the blues and play with pioneers and makes jokes, don't correlate to being an arrogant person. It's communication thing. You can take what he said (EVEN THOUGH HE IS A LEGEND), and think it's negative then what he intended. And he's right that was metal at the time. And metal was apparently though on its way out in 1990 with its bullshit. Saved by Judas Priest nonetheless.

[@robmorrison1043]

ridiculously comment. In no way does EC come off arrogant, quite the opposite. And why shouldn't be have ego, he's only the greatest,most influential, most immitated guitarist of his generation.

[@alexjerome5429]

@@robmorrison1043 for playing more than 50 years he has no accomplishments. He really sucks. Heroin junky who stole Harrison's wife who never could get out of a simple pentatonic blues scale. A real idol. Someone to look up to. Shitty musician- shitty person

[@kathypop4]

@@alexjerome5429 Who are the PERFECT musicians you look up to? There is no musician from Eric's & Pete's generation who's a perfect role model. The dude has achieved a lot of successes & is well respected for a reason. What do you think that reason is? I'm genuinely asking cuz there's so many of you who call accomplished musicians HORRIBLE musicians & act like you could play circles around him. I'm wondering why you guys are like that cuz you never ever give actual valid reasons, you just seem like jealous bitter fools in comment sections And he didn't steal George's wife.

[@beekay5914]

Pete is ten times the songwriter that Clapton is. Eric has lost all my respect in the last year.

[@catholiccowboy8545]

... well ... He's Eric Crapton !

[@jasonkeith9317]

Lost ur respect I'm sure that breaks Eric's heart. What did he do?? Maybe u should talk it out.

[@MrDino1953]

Yeah he lost me with his anti-vax stance. He may know a lot about music but little of anything else.

[@ChromeDestiny]

@@MrDino1953 I was put off by Eric's autobiography. He went up a bit in my books with his honest comments in Beware of Mr. Baker. His recent actions have put me off him again.

[@00govan00]

Townsend actually has some humor and intelligence, although that contrarian horseshit, need to distinguish himself was pretentious. Clapton is so simple of mind and music, he literally has zero to offer in either medium.

[@kimjasso9953]

00govan00 are you joking? Every time that I have seen an interview or an EC concert he has come off completely down to earth. He actually seems a little shy. You aren't at the top of your game for over 50 years if you are not talented. He is the ma

[@00govan00]

blah blah blah.. Clapton is the biggest troll ever perpetrated on the music listening public... go watch his sit-in with Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing... they do an extended version of the song, and he doesn't even solo. He's a play-it-safe sack of blues shit

[@kimjasso9953]

00govan00 well I guess Muddy Waters and BB King had it all wrong. Once saw EC, Johnny Winters, and Muddy Waters perform. Muddy introduced EC as his son. Ultimate respect for each other. Why would Muddy Waters and BB waste their time with a hack? You are entitled to your opinion, it is just wrong.

[@justafanintexas7913]

It was agreed at the Prince's Trust show that Clapton would not play a lead. Next time, tell the whole story. It's right to say he's not your cup of tea but not to lie about it to serve your end. Last I checked, nobody asked you to play with Knofler.

[@robmorrison1043]

Wow, you sound like another jealous EC hater! Why? Cause he is the greatest of his generation who set the bar so high that few will ever reach it surpass him. He is is the most influential and imitated player of his generation as well. He has amassed a $ 250 million dollar net worth, 150 ft yacht, 12 Ferrari and Porsche cars, 5 estates all over the world, funded a rehab center to help others, kicked drugs and alcohol, is happily married with 3 daughters and still sells out wherever he plays! You = a NOBODY! I feel your pain!

[@MegaJohnhammond]

and now, let's hear their rendition of "The washed up, has been, blues"

[@MikeHunt90731]

And your contribution to planet Earth? Yeah..ok

[@l8on99]

Pete has a few tricks and that is about it. He is solid but not great, in early Who albums many parts are Jimmy Page though uncredited on the albums. Pete whined to let him play so they did and the solo's are simply basic exaggerated rhythmic parts, would have been better if Jimmy played them. I am a fan of both but even Jimmy can't play worth a crap today and nobody will play with him. I hate the fact people put certain cultural legends up so high when they are nothing but average.

[@VegetabIeMan]

Page is like that because he wasn't much of a blues guitarist. Pete is faster but much heavier and well rounded guitarist. And he can actually play the blues. Page just knows fucking riffs and sounds as loose as Hendrix. Except Page's playing is cortex and messy. It sounds kinda good but his only claim to fame to playing really well is "Stairway to Heaven." And that solo lasted 50 seconds lol. Barely anything to what other blues players can do. Riff is the point we are all in rock n' roll. But to what bringing the actually archetype to rock, the blues. Zeppelin started it. So what they did was good but also average.

[@VegetabIeMan]

But also, it's not like Pete, Clapton and Hendrix did any riffs. Zeppelin just started a while fucking band on riffs! Minus Zeppelin 1. That one had blues on it.

[@voicevoice2053]

No more heroes anymore. Sadly many don't live up to the hype either..Eric 'god' Clapton super guitar player and band member disappoints with his racist views and right wing stance which has been revealed many times..Pete Townsend icon of the mighty Who is a little self obsessed ..he loves talking about himself.. his greats achievement maybe Tommy. Isn't that good..it has some decent songs on it but it's bit self indulgent and boring..teenaged angst in a rock opera..yarn

[@jasonkeith9317]

And who r u again??

[@kathypop4]

I know about his outburst on stage when he was drunk when and it was while he was deep into his alcohol problems. What other racist stuff has he done or expressed?

[@voicevoice2053]

@@kathypop4 if you follow him over the years there are many revealing insights into his views..many racist undertones..not just drunken outbursts...he once said during a concert he wished all brown skinned people would go home. You can like and admire the music. But the guy...ex alcoholic and drug addict..still adulterer...right wing political views and racism..not the sort of guy I like at all. He's an arsehole...fan worship is blind