London Midland class 350 suffers pantograph damage on departing Crewe
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@DanknDerpyGamer11 ай бұрын
0:16 That explosion of sparks was spectacular!
@marinedalek3 жыл бұрын
The sparks appear to come from the front of the cab, which suggests that something (a dropper?) was hanging down from the contact wire just to the right of the frame and shorted against the bodywork of the unit. Assuming it was a dropper, it would then have caught on the pantograph as it passed underneath causing it to bounce as seen. 350s only have one pantograph, and that was well out of the way when the initial short occurred.
@marchemsley12103 жыл бұрын
It turns out the explosion and sparks you see at the front was a relay box that is to the right of the track as we see it, when the short happened it literally blew the box.
@Storfordcountyrailway Жыл бұрын
so it may have damaged the glass and the driver must have been critically injured but glass is sand so i guess pantographs dont work well with sand
@splittieful11 ай бұрын
It was the relay
@jamieleemcculloch748611 ай бұрын
The pantograph failed
@Palestina.non.grata866 жыл бұрын
Buggered. Nasty pantograph strike that.
@terrier_productions4 жыл бұрын
I can instantly tell your a Gordie!
@jamespilbeam6 жыл бұрын
Woops, same thing happened at Bedford quite a few years ago involving a class 377/5
@cody48856 жыл бұрын
james pilbeam video on KZbin about that
@terrier_productions4 жыл бұрын
Don’t they use the 3 rail system? Because I know that the 377/4s do..
@jamesrailwayvideos43654 жыл бұрын
@@terrier_productions 377/5s are dual mode
@terrier_productions4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesrailwayvideos4365 ok thx
@lamborghinihexagons55023 жыл бұрын
@@terrier_productions 377/1/3/4/6 third rail 377/2/5/7 dual voltage
@alexwiddowson37565 жыл бұрын
This Class 350 was operating 1F53, the 17:36 service from Birmingham New Street-Liverpool Lime Street. From 0:16-0:35, its pantograph strikes debris, which causes the train to stop.
@pvfcfan38363 жыл бұрын
No it was the pantograph broke off
@alexwiddowson37563 жыл бұрын
@@pvfcfan3836 Oh.
@alexwiddowson37562 жыл бұрын
@Malachi Muhammad OK.
@Snapdragon4472 Жыл бұрын
It must have been a bit scary for the passengers, especially those right near the pantograph. I hope nobody got eye damage from the massive flash? What was the findings of the cause of the failure? Loose dropper?, Detached carbon strip?, Sagging wire?
@thebrummierailenthusiasts53294 жыл бұрын
That looks nasty to see the pantograph exploded on the desiro unit just as it came into the camera shot
@lutumbakabeya53656 жыл бұрын
Maybe the overhead wires was too hot or the pantograph got stuck
@al66class596 жыл бұрын
Probably the graphite broke and got caught
@hi24x4 жыл бұрын
The pantograph got too hot and exploded
@Andrewjg_893 жыл бұрын
That looked real nasty. Nice spark as well. And the lights inside the carriage were still on.
@am5p83 жыл бұрын
It might be that the lights are powered by the batteries. I don't know for sure as i am not familiar with British rollingstock. Just a guess.
@MerseyTransport2 жыл бұрын
@@am5p8 the 350 was made in Germany then transported to Britain
@Un-Grand-Central Жыл бұрын
trains do have batteries in britain
@steves51725 жыл бұрын
Catenary has its advantages but it is only reliable with continuous maintenance- diesel power still needed at times like this!
@RBXTrains5 жыл бұрын
apart from to please the environmental warriors
@Cpr12346 жыл бұрын
if you pause at the right frame at 0:16 the screen goes white
@olikirrage5 жыл бұрын
Cpr1234 GG I did it
@alisonrawlings66794 жыл бұрын
The sheer power of electricity
@TwmUkLive2 жыл бұрын
well it's basically a lightning strike
@Mattpsb6 ай бұрын
Pantograph strike
@HenrysAdventures3 жыл бұрын
How did that happen?
@pascalinemosolo13534 жыл бұрын
The 0:18 sparks are scary
@WMTPV210 ай бұрын
Does anyone know the number/numbers of that desiro?
@slendermanRblx6 жыл бұрын
Even though the pantograph got damaged and assuming the train lost power why are the passenger saloon lights still on normal brightness?
@weeardguy5 жыл бұрын
Batteries. But most trains can't run interior lighting and stuff on batteries for long. A few minutes is no problem.
@masonsmainlineroblox Жыл бұрын
they have batteries
@shaunonlyplaysyt9879 Жыл бұрын
They have batteries for essential stuff
@TheRealDandyes19976 жыл бұрын
oh dear
@keithrussell98343 жыл бұрын
I was riding that 323 in the drivers cab when this happened the driver asked me what was that i responded by the class 350 can not control it's pantograph and lost it one less 350 plowing up the WCML for a few days.
@bennickss Жыл бұрын
If the pantograph struck, and presumably broke, how come the lights stayed on?
@EdwardMason9000 Жыл бұрын
Most electric trains have a battery on board to power essential systems in case of emergency, and to for lowering and raising the pantograph when being stored, although if it's just being stabled overnight the pantograph normally just stays raised because it's easier.
@coxallk322 жыл бұрын
How long was the train stuck for? Bit like watching Line Of Duty at the end of one of the series.
@Trek0016 жыл бұрын
Thats nasty
@antonyhobbs11443 жыл бұрын
It's possible that the driver powered through a SI ( a Section Isolator )
@Mrmegaminergames3 жыл бұрын
From personal experience that will usually just trip the motors
@antonyhobbs11443 жыл бұрын
@@Mrmegaminergames I'm just asking have you driven as train or a tram . I drove a tram for over 10 years
@Mrmegaminergames3 жыл бұрын
@@antonyhobbs1144 I drive trains As long as you don't stop with your panto under an SI these days not much tends to go wrong
@antonyhobbs11443 жыл бұрын
@@Mrmegaminergames You will agree with me that ice on the overhead gives a great light show.
@Mrmegaminergames3 жыл бұрын
@@antonyhobbs1144 I'll have to take your word for it, we don't get ice or snow here
@JintySteam13 жыл бұрын
Railcam's first incident capture?
@Cactuspowerhousey2 жыл бұрын
Oh my blummin’ god!
@felixthecleaner88434 жыл бұрын
the unaware passengers were probably stranded on that train for many hours.
@jasongoulden2938 Жыл бұрын
Unaware with an explosion like that lol as soon as the train ground to a halt the passengers without earphones glued to their ears would of known something was up can only assume another unit would of drew up at the rear and pulled it back into the station if they could lower the pantograph clear of the centenary either that or staff would of had to of led the passengers back to the platform on foot.
@Jakeso2 жыл бұрын
Is it because its night or was the pantograph litteraly attacking the overhead wire?
@epender2 жыл бұрын
It looks like it was, I'm not sure if the pantograph has some automatic height adjustment which went crazy when the fault happened, maybe the wires snapped on top of it.
@extrude22 Жыл бұрын
@@epender The height of the wire varies a lot so the pantograph is mechanically pushed against the wire and with a spring like mechanism
@robdlaidler4 жыл бұрын
That will teach you for not paying the electric bill
@Hsh6373 жыл бұрын
@@TheEnglishTrainSpotter2021 sarcasm
@jacobhardy1212 жыл бұрын
@@TheEnglishTrainSpotter2021 it was a joke
@b001089825 жыл бұрын
What the heck happened to that 350
@hi24x4 жыл бұрын
The pantograph exploded
@southwest15854 жыл бұрын
What’s the difference between a class 450 and a class 350?
@cameronmitchell61574 жыл бұрын
450 Has the shoe for the 3rd rail to get power. 350 has pantograph for overhead lines to get power.
@southwest15854 жыл бұрын
Cameron Mitchell oh thank you
@cameronmitchell61574 жыл бұрын
@@southwest1585 No problems
@southwest15854 жыл бұрын
Cameron Mitchell literally the same train’s classed differently and have different power gaining strategies
@terrier_productions4 жыл бұрын
Southwest 444 yep
@ireland_european_railways_zp6 жыл бұрын
Uh oh
@LugiaBilly3 жыл бұрын
At least Thunderbird wasn’t that far
@paulheaton88596 жыл бұрын
Which 350 pantograph damage
@terrier_productions4 жыл бұрын
Are you blind
@EM-yk1dw6 жыл бұрын
What caused the flashover and pantograph damage?
@bennickss3 жыл бұрын
Probably just a fault with the junction and overhead lines, nobody really knows
@E34Jimmy Жыл бұрын
something appears to strike the cab
@Macrowa Жыл бұрын
probably a sagging wire
@lms_ryan68883 жыл бұрын
Oh strange that's odd to see
@sosig13415 жыл бұрын
0:16 what happened
@terrier_productions4 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing a section of the overhead wire had too much voltage for the pantograph.. but I don’t really know
@alisonrawlings66794 жыл бұрын
Well considering it covered the whole front of the train with sparks I think it was a bit of debris or something
@terrier_productions4 жыл бұрын
Alison Rawlings I’m not dissing on that conclusion but if you look at the pantograph as the train comes round the bend, it’s a bit flopping and the overhead wire too..
@sosig13414 жыл бұрын
The RailTourer! Now did it happen
@terrier_productions4 жыл бұрын
Sosig ?
@donnar.98465 жыл бұрын
How did it happen btw I love LNWR and London Midland.
@MrRevika4 жыл бұрын
Is it took 5 minutes to wait
@tp1753 жыл бұрын
0:17 yes Rico kaboom
@physiocrat71433 жыл бұрын
How long did that take to repair? I don't suppose anything like that happens very often at Clapham Junction. I wonder if an overhead system would stand up to the volume of traffic passing through CLJ?
@extrude223 жыл бұрын
Of course overhead systems can withstand intensive service patterns. There are stations in Japan and other places much busier than Clapham Junction.
@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire Жыл бұрын
Clapham Junction was OLE and it did fine with it.
@Crewecabking5 жыл бұрын
I wonder what happened
@hi24x4 жыл бұрын
Pantograph got too hot causing it to explode
@Great_WesternTVFan6 жыл бұрын
That's dangerous
@MervynPartin3 жыл бұрын
Good case for 3rd rail!
@wharris3023 жыл бұрын
Apart from 3rd rail is banned and incredibly inferior to OH
@MervynPartin3 жыл бұрын
@@wharris302 Like most things, it is a case of horses for courses. HV overhead is certainly the most efficient energy-wise for long distance electrification, but in terms of infrastructure, costs, 3rd. rail can beat it easily with minimal disruption, resistance to damage and if boring tunnels, they can be made considerably smaller and thus cheaper. The ban on 3rd rail was arbitrary and nonsensical. A few stretches of in-fill 3rd rail would eliminate a large portion of diesel working. Also, if 3rd rail was used through the confines of Bath (the Hitachi Javelin bi-mode seems to work well) then the full electrification to Brstol TM might have been achieved without upsetting the old farts of Bath.
@extrude223 жыл бұрын
@@MervynPartin I'm not sure if the tunnel boring point still stands since all new rail tunnels must have an evacuation walkway for emergencies. This means that any tunnel with a walkway is already large enough for overhead lines.
@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire Жыл бұрын
@@MervynPartin Third Rail is not safe. Also in-fill third rail has been show to be more expensive than OLE.
@MervynPartin Жыл бұрын
@@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire I would like to mention part of an article by Ian Walmsley, formerly of Porterbrook the train leasing company and now a contributor to Modern Railways:- "When adjusted for the size of each network the overhead system accounted for 0.23 Fatalities and Weighted Injuries (FWI) per thousand track kilometres, and third rail 0.47". Nearly all the incidents were due to trespass and of course the likelihood of death with 25kV is practically guaranteed. So, while on paper, 3rd. rail would seem more dangerous, I have no sympathy for trespassers seeking Darwin Awards. As for cost, the overhead electrification of the Great Western has almost killed off hopes for the rest of the country. Plus with 3rd rail, there is no need to replace any bridges, or increase the height of tunnels.
@user-tu9fp2kw7y Жыл бұрын
ah yes! nice catch!
@milosmamutovic894 ай бұрын
Oh shit Its not safe
@philb21356 жыл бұрын
I was on this train. Took nearly three hours for LondonMidland to do anything. Awful.
@NatalieWiltshaw6 жыл бұрын
did they let you off?
@SouthLondonRailwayPhotography6 жыл бұрын
Locos do need to be able to couple up to 350s to shunt them, which would mean the only locos cleared to shunt it would be Rail Operations Group 37s.
@DSHTrains6 жыл бұрын
With the pantograph tangled in the wires, they can't just "Shunt it back"
@philb21356 жыл бұрын
DSH Trains well that makes me feel a whole lot better...
@philb21356 жыл бұрын
Natalie Wiltshaw three hours later another train came and attached itself to the broken one, we had to get on that. Nice 17 hour working day!
@harnettyrailways6 жыл бұрын
Ouch that was a bit nasty
@WhiteCamry5 жыл бұрын
Frankenstein's Train.
@MattyandSaimGamez14 сағат бұрын
0:14
@vasilicastoica4802 Жыл бұрын
👍
@犬用下着ソース入り消臭剤3 жыл бұрын
Up and down up and down
@mak47HDTrains6 жыл бұрын
Wow
@bedfordshireeastmidlandstrains2 жыл бұрын
I thought the train goes Choo Choo, not bang bang
@dukeidehen082 жыл бұрын
Tha heck?
@bedfordshireeastmidlandstrains2 жыл бұрын
I know Right?
@dukeidehen082 жыл бұрын
@@bedfordshireeastmidlandstrains ye
@craftythio4 жыл бұрын
Kaboom!
@SouthCoastTrainspotter6 жыл бұрын
Oops
@owenchuarbx6 жыл бұрын
Bollocks.....
@pepsimadd176 жыл бұрын
Oh my god
@TheRailwaysOfNorthWales6 жыл бұрын
Jesus!
@TropicalP4563 жыл бұрын
0.16 !!!!!!!!
@oforid22275 жыл бұрын
oh theres my train not
@ajbrail556 жыл бұрын
Good God
@shadowstransport84123 жыл бұрын
Oh god that doesn’t look good
@maxwellwynne-shepherd78524 жыл бұрын
E BBRRAAKKEE!!!
@user-eb4xt7qg3s6 жыл бұрын
!?
@Kyle_Houghton2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think that 350 is ever gonna move again that’s a train for the scrap yard no!
@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire Жыл бұрын
It is still very much in service.
@MemeReviewer3 жыл бұрын
I know that this is old but, this shows how unreliable modern trains can be, just get some class 323s in there and this will never happen.
@olasola10133 жыл бұрын
Problem is, class 323s won't fit the east coast mainline with their top speed of 90 mph compared to the class 350's 110 mph top speed.
@MemeReviewer3 жыл бұрын
@@olasola1013 This was old and I forgot about this comment, I meant to say Class 450s
@MemeReviewer2 жыл бұрын
@FlexSwiftHe this comment was old, I forgot it existed lol
@olasola10132 жыл бұрын
@@notron8239 Oh, sorry. Yes, it is the west coast mainline
@leeroberts1192 Жыл бұрын
If it's faulty OLE damaging the pantograph, how would using a different class of unit make any difference?
@SoraSummer6 жыл бұрын
This is why 3rd Rail is better.
@ollykehoe50546 жыл бұрын
TheDrsEnviro200 even though 3rd rail is slower, less safe and less weather resistant. Also, overhead wires can run at higher power and alternating current.
@SoraSummer6 жыл бұрын
But looks cleaner.
@cultivationape69466 жыл бұрын
TheDrsEnviro200 lmao again how these British rail fans put their personal preferences over actual benefit of the railwwlays when it comes to speed, safty and overall efficiency overhead wire is be all and end all of electrification and there's just not debating that. the mere fact that you say 3rd rail is better proofs that you have no idea how 3rd rail works 1st of all 3rd rail is connot withstand speeds past 100mph or 160 kph whilst overhead has no limit to how fast trains can go this why all high speed networks have are operated by AC overhead wire. 2nd 3rd rail is extremely dangerous you can talk all day about a broken pantograth how ever their countless videos of trains on fire because of a complication with the shoe and in my opinion a train on fire with people inside is far more dangerous than a broken piece of metal on top of a train. there's also the fact that with 3rd rail you can die just by falling onto the train track whilst unless you jump from a bridge a land balls first onto a overhead wire there no you will die from falling of a platform with overhead wire. 3rd as time goes by and trains get faster 3rd rail will become a thing of the past due to 3rd rail not being able to withstand speeds above 160 kmph it has been discussed as to wether the whole south should be converted to overhead wire. and last but not least overhead wire is just far more aesthetically pleasing.
@ollykehoe50546 жыл бұрын
KING exactly. Third rail is only good for metros and suburban rail. Not high speed or intercity services.
@akarouge6 жыл бұрын
The only reason the South haven't converted to OHLE is because they'll have to rail every tunnel to fit them it. And that's too expensive.