Class 40 122 (D200) cab ride Moston - Rochdale - Oldham 1985

[@taynuilt1]

Impressive sideburns and heavy gold jewellery on Mr Driver - a true man of his time!

[@theflodgeable]

true rite,a mans man,they dont make em like that anymore!

[@ezrajoel870]

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[@thegameoflife9179]

What has the driver got to do with this?? I grew up in the 80's and it was a fantastic period of time... much better than now thats for sure.

[@peterowbottom1110]

@@thegameoflife9179 Yes, and that's the point he was making.

[@mikecrowther8131]

That has to be one of the best things I’ve ever viewed, on screen or not!

[@bradleyaitchison1338]

reminds me of the time haymarket depot ,edinburgh had a bunch attached. i was allowed in to the depot one saturday afternoon when i was a kid and on wandering the roads on the depot taking numbers i saw a driver climb into then HA based 40 123.....my dad shouted up to him,`can you take him with you` and to my astonishment,he said `im going millerhill yard,can take you waverley station or over to millerhill` i feverishly climbed up and said waverley would do great,i really should have said millerhill !!! to this day i cannot fathom out how he knew he could drop me at one of the through platforms but indeed he did after heading out of the depot,thru haymarket station full of people on the platforms and going through the waverley tunnels !!! thru the waverley tunnels light engine was incredible,the sound and the air whistling past as i had the window down at my seat,the driver knees up on the footplate having a laugh at my joy was something il never forget nearly `forty` years on....long live the class40

[@jingshelpmaboab]

That's a lovely story.

[@gavincarr911]

This Reminds me of when I was nine (I'm 17 now) and I went to the east Lancashire railway on the diner for my birthday, the driver saw me stood on the platform at Heywood whilst he was running the engine round and saw my birthday badge, he ran over and asked if I wanted to look in the cab with my mum, naturally I said yes and we went up, he said I could stay in the cab whilst the engine ran around but I mustn't tell anyone, I'll never forget that ever, I think the engine was a standard class 4mt number 80007

[@vorlonb3]

very nice of the driver to let you film, and lovely to see the weather of the north west was still as rainy as ever!

[@Martindyna]

Great video. Those wipers remind me of the vacuum powered wipers fitted to Ford Prefect / Anglia in the late 50s. With large throttle openings going up a hill in top gear they would go very slow and conversely very fast with the throttle closed on the over run.

[@dieseldave3879]

Absolutle timeless rail footage: a classic loco, foul weather and the North of England! 🚂👍

[@spectrumanalyzer3093]

I really miss the 40's around Rochdale. We used to spend hours and hours at the weekends and school holiday at Clegg Hall and Smithy Bridge. If only I could go back to the late 70's and early 80's...and take my 20Mega Pixel camera with me !!!

[@LeeStaffs1]

This is an incredible piece of film, very high quality

[@stevenweasel2678]

Superb and historic record

[@andybyrne50]

What a gem of a film,reminds me of the time i would share a ride with my father in the cab of a 108 at about this time between birmingham and stratford on avon.

[@mekydro]

Great stuff. Lots of real signals and excellent thrash. Note the lack of AWS almost everywhere in those days

[@MikesMovies]

2:13 bit of a hard stop lol amazing how you can hear the traction motors growling away, wonderful locos

[@stephenpowell5912]

Love the sound of a class 40 Whistler ❤️❤️

[@davidgriffiths7215]

Great video. Can't believe that's only 30 years ago - it looks like a different planet!

[@timwattison4419]

Having worked on the railway for just under 40 years in the driving grade I can tell you it's extremely different from today. In those days you were respected as a driver, you had to handle a train taking into account power, weight, speed and rail head condition. Class 40's were prone to overload if opened up too quickly, once they had found their feet (roughly 15mph) you could give them the lot. Most EE loco's needed to be treated this way and I've driven them all. It was indeed a paid hobby for me yet today my only pleasure is now a HST, a more or less loco hauled train that has air brakes and you have to handle it properly. I found it so funny that a lot of the newer driver don't want to drive them as they are frightened 😂😂😂😂

[@Vortigan07]

Yes indeed! This was filmed just a month before I left school, on the on the one hand it feels like forever ago and yet it remains so near in the memory. A strange feeling.

[@Myattmode]

Quality footage again from you. Don't you just wish we had those days again...

[@Isochest]

Better days than now with Monopolist Deindustrialisation and the Diabolical Grooming Gangs.

[@Roo63]

Never grow tired of watching this video. Thank you :)

[@TrainDriverRob]

Just awesome footage from back in the day. If I gave a cab ride to my Guard let alone a normal, I would be down the road!

[@mikechapman9094]

I agree with the comment about the driver,great footage thanks for posting this

[@monkeysmollock]

Those wipers would drive me nuts if I was driving that thing!

[@BegudMaximan-zp2tc]

Exactly right! 🤣🤣

[@Bish66]

what a great piece of film. fantastic piec of machinery.

[@Wettonbunker]

There's no school like the old school and that driver is the headmaster!

[@aureol40012]

@@Wettonbunker love it! So true as well.

[@Wettonbunker]

Cheers mate. There was something more "wholesome" about actually being a bloke back then. Now all these daft lads who live on the tick and in fear of losing their lifestyles for fear of saying something unPC try so hard to look like men.... Ridiculous! Give me a ten pack of embassy cigs and 2 or 3 pints of whitbread trophy after work any day before a gym session with the personal trainer, a watermelon vape, skinny latte and an appointment with the tattoo artist!

[@pete37038]

Pete, that's pure gold !

[@jamesedwards7241]

The wiper drives are air operated, the reason it speeds up is increase lubrication from the rain, simple as that, Always liked the Class 40, Nice comfortable ride due to the additional floating axle and not to noisy in the cab,

[@DaveInBridport]

You will never know how much I want to do this!

[@Paulsimon8]

Excellent - The home board for Rochdale on the Down has been removed (30th August 2011) and Rochdale box has been removed too (same date) as all signalling in that area is controlled via Rochdale West with signal plate prefixes of TH3xxx - Castleton East will be removed in December as will Vitrial Works too - Such a shame! Also a shame that the Oldham Loop has closed, I used to work it as a guard before I went driving - It was the "bread and buter" work of Man Vic and Wigan depots.

[@craigmunday47515]

Love the heavy stop en route, a bit of emergency brake too! Awesome.

[@tpickthall]

Awesome, historic footage.

[@Quebecoisegal]

My British friends tell me that is a typical summers day in that part of England!

[@vicsams4431]

I got a cabride from Emeril Junction to Esker in the cab of a F40. Although Schefferville goes down to -63, I did it in July. Regards from London England.

[@colofeaton]

Great footage, again thanks for sharing

[@marklewis9638]

proper br driver

[@Foxys-Collective-Videography]

Brilliant Video :-). I like it :-). The BR class 40's look cool :-).

[@wozpinball]

Great video - thanks for sharing!

[@ทัศนียาสีกาศรี]

Remember driving 063 Dundee to Perth when 14 had some power.2 Nd can ride thx to Peter O'Donnell

[@woodlandsteve]

Quality bit of film, 40012 was my babe used to see her going to Blackpool from Man Vic

[@Caz_Rail]

love the way the wipers speed up a bit when he puts more power on!!!!!

[@davidjones3758]

Brilliant video.

[@JonneiRedBeard]

I never knew Mills Hill once had a bridge and barely any trees! It would have been great if a class 40 had run me to leeds every time I went, it would have been much better than the usual Northern DMU. Great vid though mate thanks!

[@aureol40012]

@LeeStaffs1 Cheers mate, much appreciated. It was a very expensive bit of kit in its day, it wouldn'y go for more than £10 on ebay now!

[@johnpiper3416]

Great video

[@formidable38]

What I wana know is, how come there was no AWS magnet and bell on the approach to that green?? What a great piece of film in anycase!

[@phillynch3819]

Early version of colour lights. Usually found in areas of dense semaphore signals owing to the distance from the signal box. It would be too far and or complicated to use a standard semaphore signal, so a colour light signal is used. As such they don't use the same system as the usual "automatic" colour light signals. This type are set by the signaller following a route setting. Some were operated by lever in the same way, but you could also find ones set by a switch on a small panel.

[@andythesoupdragon]

I managed to persuade an Edinburgh driver for just this in 101326 from Newton-Haymarket west junction in or around 1985. I don't think they were as lenient around here. Hence why I had to wait until outside Glasgow. He'd have got his jotters or a final warning if someone had clyped on him. 1st generation DMUs were damn slow on the 'Caley (steep grades) & few of the drivers shed a tear when they were scrapped

[@gw4pjq]

Someone asked how did you get a cab ride. It really was easy then. I even drove 40106 from Bangor to Rhyl on more than one occasion in 1982. These really can do 90mph with ease with ten on. Their 2000hp thermal rating seems to have no bearing on their performance at all!! I was told once by a fitter at Chester a lot of these locos were set to produce up to 2500hp for short periods. 2000hp was its continuous rating. How true that is I don't know, but they do shift and perform as well as a peak.

[@prof.hectorholbrook4692]

ABSOLUTELY HELLFIRE!!

[@aureol40012]

Prof. Hector Holbrook I enjoyed filming it too ;-)

[@keithturner3602]

Great stuff!

[@justinobrien3593]

Could never do it again as that line is now run by Metrolink and is trams only now it got taken over about 2015 I think the trams started running back In oldham area.

[@TimHall42]

Marvellous stuff!

[@stevewyman2822]

..Lovely old machine...:)

[@v2factoryman]

Great vid! What was the box/siding at 1.20?

[@Tom-Lahaye]

Vitrial works is the wagon workshop at the Heywood line triangle south of Castleton?

[@danseifert8790]

Class 40 is eight feet longer that the 37, and has an extra bogie; giving four wheels per set. Other than that, their appearance is the same.

[@Isochest]

You're right. Back in the '80s it was not a problem. With all the Laws Directives etc. you have now it is not worth the risk to a driver.

[@magicdave93]

Amazing!!!

[@FM60260]

Why does whe windscreen wiper increase speed with engine RPM?

[@DomZa100]

awesome

[@s1914]

Great vid! How noisy was it in the cab?

[@RICKD790]

@andyw823 Looks like Vitrioil Works signal box to me.

[@battlestarone]

les dawson could drive a train?

[@aureol40012]

@andyw823 Hi mate, not sure. I'm sure someone else will know!

[@RICKD790]

@RICKD790 I meant Vitriol

[@jasonl5967]

whats the switch driver released at 2:33 that made the honking sound, was it used to release the air brakes?

[@aureol40012]

jason long Sequence is loco brake off with left hand then quick blast of the horn (under drivers desk) with right hand then direction handle into forward then power handle to apply power

[@tjshill82]

Thanks for sharing. How did you get a cab ride??

[@davidchadwick5916]

my lords

[@silletrebor]

Anyone know the Drivers name?

[@hughjanus501]

Where's the steering wheel?

[@vicsams4431]

Under the wheels, called the rails.

[@aureol40012]

@tjshill82 it was easy in those days!

[@johnsuckling6188]

Brutal

[@rolexkings7747]

beast

[@rockie2474]

What is the difference between a Class 37 and a '40'?

[@phillynch3819]

4 cylinders, 2 turbos, 2 wheels, 20 ton and 250hp.

[@aureol40012]

Because it is air driven!

[@GaryNumeroUno]

The braking left much to be desired... a hard stop at station 1, almost a SPAD at station 2 and station 3 was heading for another hard stop as well before the film cut out. Still it is nice to see the driver helping the passengers get up out of their seats! Hehehe

[@Simonize41]

GaryNumeroUno Nature of the old type brakes/shoes for Station 1; No such thing as defensive driving back then for Station 2, and the signal was off at the end (his braking was well under control before the peg cleared, too). Just saying.

[@DaveInBridport]

How do 40s differ from 37s?

[@halesworth01]

All the specs' are here for 37 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_37 and here for the 40 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_40

[@smiffy1071]

The 40 has a v16 engine, 37 has a v12, but also an intercooler. 40s have a tag axle on each bogey making the wheel arrangement a 1co-co1.

[@supersprinter6566]

@@smiffy1071 didnt the 40 also have 4 turbo chargers giving it that distinctive whistle noise

[@smiffy1071]

super sprinter correct, 37 only has 2 turbos.

[@supersprinter6566]

@@smiffy1071 lol m8 i didnt have a clue until sunday a fella doing maintenance on a class 44 at midlands railway centre told me and he also told me the reasons for big nose end was to break the aspect of track over long distance plus as a walk through for shift change drivers

[@iainduckworth1548]

oh my lords!!!!!

[@emt43043]

Now this is classed as hardcore porn 🤤

[@blablabluuuu]

They sound abit like a class 20

[@phillynch3819]

Essentially they are 2 V8 class 20 engines back to back. The son of the engine is in a Class 50 and grandson in a class 56.

[@gromit3315]

The driver’s seat does not look very comfortable and ergonomyc.

[@fatwalletboy2]

Jesus when you listen back now imagine being a driver for 8 9 10 or 12 hrs a day with that piercing racket. Must affect your hearing in later life........

[@carlwilson1772]

Eh?

[@vicsams4431]

Early diesel locos did cause industrial deafness.

[@zedcharlie]

Noise on 40 s was pretty low. Try class 86 at 100mph. Awfull. 47.s made much more noise in the cab too. On a 40 the only annoying noise was the exhausters when on vacuum.

[@grahamallen1970]

nice finesse with power handle no wheel spin on a damp day....take a lesson preserved drivers....but a bit sloppy with brake hanndle into emergency for station stops? and the slap slap of the air powered wipers....!!!!! drove you potty if it rained all day

[@emt43043]

She’s crying out to sing again stuck the grate hall is a crime

[@andrewchaston503]

When the ICI tanks went through Newcastle Central on the Mond i would cream my pants. 40 up front. Seriously u youngsters have heard nothing