Class 86

[@19TheChaosWarrior79]

I have family who live down south so trains were a big part of my childhood. school holidays were spent with my grandad who had came up and used to take me to Preston station. from there we would pick a destination. This video takes me right back.

[@57305northernprincess]

when ever I think about them I can always hear them powering up in my head

[@soundseeker63]

Superb video! Great that you manage to catch the now preserved 86101 and 86401 in both NSE and RES liveries! Some of these locos are soon to make it to 50 years in service!!! :-D

[@williamradford8817]

Good old class 86s on WCML, Loco hauled INTERCITY trains

[@plane15]

Remember them arriving at Manchester Piccadilly when we'd go to pick someone up, the engines would sort of whine when the train finally stopped.

[@richardjellis9186]

Although this is a good video, some NARRATION, or story telling, would be FANTASTIC.!😁!. MAYBE, Someone could use the footage they've collected over the years, and go one by one, through all the different classes of locomotive, telling us where they spent their lives and what they got up to. I know that I'D BE DELIGHTED to watch a video on each class. There's LOADS of videos done by the Americans on THEIR locos through the years, and, LOADS of videos done on the locos that were special in one way or another (big boys, and gas turbine locos). They are PROUD of their rail history, and rightly so. Surely someone has the footage and knows the history of OUR stock.!🤔!. Fingers crossed eh.! LOVE THE VIDEOS🥰. KEEP 'em COMING🥰🥰. RICH 🥰🥰🥰.

[@robertgoh7420]

One of the class 86 trains had mostly class 421 passenger coaches at 8:19

[@86501freightliner]

They're MK1 carriages, what most of the southern region slam-door stock were based on.

[@SteamboatWilley]

loads of great footage here. liked.

[@stephendines1936]

Didnt very often see NSE livery as far north as Warrington.

[@LDEGM]

Excellent video, John!

[@Cazkumali]

I wonder why On GEML express services the 86s were are at the South End coupled to the 1st class coaches instead of the usual North End on WCML

[@class87fan54]

+Cazkumali Because the Anglian 86s are based at Crown Point in Norwich, and it's easier to swap locos if they're at the south end of the train.

[@alhumphrey81]

Cazkumali also its performance. Norwich is Down Hill from London and it is easier on the loco to push down hill and pull up hill.

[@alhumphrey81]

Its to do with the hills. Usually everywhere else in the country. Its down hill to london and easier for locos to push down hill and pull going up hill. Apart from the GEML where Norwich is actually down hill from london, so hence the train formation is swapped.

[@MegaClass70]

great video

[@ewloe01]

What a video!

[@stephendines1936]

I should imagian Network South East livery is not seen very often in Warrington.

[@sub39h]

Great video, thank you. Does anyone happen to know what the Mk3 coach is at around 24.46 in the rake departing Ipswich? Thanks

[@alhumphrey81]

sub39h Buffet car

[@sub39h]

Al H Do you know what type? It doesn't look like an RFM?

[@alhumphrey81]

sub39h only guessing that i is a conversion similar to an MK 2 buffet or a great western mini buffet, basically an open tourist conversion. i travelled on that line alot and will see if i have any pics

[@mikehooz]

It's a Mk3 RFM, but it's from a batch (10212-10229) which were converted from First Opens, and they kept the full-height windows along that side of the vehicle. The buffet counter, kitchen and seating area were basically the same as the rest of the RFM fleet. There were four variants of RFM: 10200-10201 - Prototypes, converted from HST TRUKs. 10202-10211 - First production batch, also converted from HST TRUKs. 10212-10229 - Second production batch, converted from Mk3a First Opens (110xx). 10230-10260 - Third production batch, converted from Mk3a RFBs (100xx). The two prototypes had some significant differences from the rest of the fleet, especially under the surface. As I recall one even trialled a cafe-style seating area - but got converted to standard 2+1 1st Class layout pretty quickly. The remainder seemed largely indistinguishable to the average passenger, despite their different previous uses.

[@sub39h]

Mike Hughes Thank you so much for your detailed reply. Did they have Roe Vac vents rather than the square ones then? Thanks again!

[@stephendines1936]

Eusto looks just the same now.

[@9C85-g4b]

NSE livery looks dreadful on these. To be fair, it looked dreadful on most locos.