Class of '09- Secret Video Message

I guess we'll never know.

[@Ambivalence18]

Watch my new Class of 09 video, Class of 09 The Re-Up All Endings Plus Text Messages, here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYjOnYGhfpaCbZY

[@echoweb2]

incel to femcel communication

[@Ambivalence18]

Real!

[@mazipan8604]

IMCRYING

[@Shortcakeeeeeee]

Wild.

[@owlismyfavouritecolorflame2325]

Incel to femcel conversation

[@sharkattack2903]

Asa and Denji 😭💀😭

[@mikeolson7011]

The grand irony here is that Nicole does know. Jeffery doesn't understand that despite all the attention Nicole gets, shes still incredibly lonely because the people who give her attention don't actually care about her, and she's too emotionally repressed to form connections with people who might.

[@user-tq8vv4yz4k]

Oh wow

[@llazr8941]

W comment

[@Mr.happy689]

"then you realize, everyone loves you, but... No one likes you" -silly horse man

[@ZiggyFL]

Exactly, well said

[@nadial8531]

Also the fact that before she was pretty ignored at her other previous schools and family, as she said before all the thinking she’d ever done was alone, she’s just had both sides of the coin tbh

[@user-dm8vz1yh1n]

Nicole’s graduation speech and adulthood is definitely the canon ending. I’d certainly like to believe so

[@addys8888]

Honestly i'd feel like she's khs

[@Jo-sx8yi]

At least its the one that allows for the continuity in the re-up Edit: nvm it doesnt

[@ggbg8628]

I love that Nicole and Jecka actually have a serious talk with Jeffery after he demands her to give him an explanation on her behavior, and then when Jeffery downplays her problems she goes right back to mocking him. They truly aren’t made for eachother.

[@tedbrittain9650]

I see a lot of people talking about how one person in this conversation is right and I think that's pretty reductive, IMO they're both wrong if anything. Jefferey is essentially saying "you have a choice of what to do, and then you choose to hurt people who haven't necessarily hurt you just because you can, you have the resources to get whatever you want and all you use them for is to toy with others like a game". And Nicoles response is essentially "I know what I'm doing is wrong and I don't care, I'll never get what I actually need so instead I'll satisfy any fleeting want as a consolation prize for never being fulfilled, because the structure of the culture and society around me inhibits my actualization; a culture you perpetuate, which is why I'm okay with talking past you, I know you won't get it but it's fine for me to make fun of you because nothing I actively do can be worse than the things you passively perpetuate." Jeffery is willing to empathize with Nicole, but doesn't have the tools to, Nicole has the tools to empathize with Jeffery, but isn't willing to; if she started empathizing with Jeffery, everything would come crashing down, the only power she has would disappear, principal Lynn touches on this when she talks about controlling men and not 'falling for' caring about them. Nicole is able to validate her self perception of superiority by being aware of her capability (to understand him when he can't understand her) that Jeffery doesn't possess, and uses this to insulate herself from the emotions that might come from actually meeting Jefferey on his level. Jeffery thinks Nicole has abandoned her humanity, Nicole believes that she's transcended it. It's a greek tragedy to Nicole, the great value that society attached to the aspects of herself that she has no control over represent an inexorable prophecy to Nicole, that she's destined to fulfill; willing or unwilling. I think this is why in half then endings she becomes extremely successful and in the other half she hits rock bottom and stays there. Because the societal impressions pushed onto Nicole are real, and she has a decent chance of riding them all the way to the top, but so too are her traumas and vices caused by them, and depending on how the out world treats her, either could win. In every ending one thing stays consistent, Nicole doesn't change. This is why Jefferey is angry with her, on some level he recognizes that Nicole won't change, but he can't change (not saying this is necessarily true tho). It's funny because I think SBN3 deliberately made these characters as direct parallels, Jefferey has an abusive dad, Nicole has an abusive mom; Jefferey gets no attention because he's an unattractive boy, Nicole gets all the attention because she's an attractive girl; these are equally harmful, but in such different ways that it makes those who experience them have a difficult time empathizing with eachother. I think the choice to make Nicole the perspective character was concerted; everybody will give attention to a story about an attractive girl; nobody will give attention to a story about an unattractive boy. And in terms of a video game/visual novel, attention = success. I don't think it's a coincidence at all that Nicoles bad endings often involve drug abuse, and Jeffery's most notable bad ending involve extreme violence; Nicoles mom is abusive because she does drugs and ignores her daughters problems, Jefferey's dad is abusive because he's a violent gun nut; Nicole sees the world as uncaring and meaningless, Jefferey sees the world as evil and hostile, so of course Nicole responds by not caring about anything and Jefferey responds by hating everything, sound familiar? Class of '09 is a lot of things, most of all a love letter to the 2000's, but I think SBN3 is trying to say something really poignant about... something? Societal neglect of genders in different ways? Cultural prejudice on the basis of sex? Maybe even more generally a statement on empathy and hate? Because what this conversation reveals about these two characters is that they hate eachother. Nicole talks past Jefferey on purpose because she doesn't want to give him the understanding he's desperately searching for and Jefferey attacks her back with pure sincerity, the one thing she can't touch without collapsing. But he opened the interaction with sincerity so maybe he was the aggressor here? Or he wasn't trying to because he still didn't understand? Maybe Nicole can't even take Jefferey trying to connect with her sincerely because she's too jaded by this point. I think in the end it's just 2 broken people trying to find what they're looking for and never getting it. I think maybe it's two different people who have the same kind of trauma, who feel the same kind of pain, but can't connect over it because the things causes are so disparate. And so they end up hating eachother instead. They literally said it right at the beginning of the interaction, Jefferey is still trying to figure out the big idea (the way people interact and society actually works) Nicole already figured it out and realized that being aware of it wouldn't help so she went back down a level (medium ideas) because constantly living with what awareness with no agency about it is crippling, and in intentionally choosing not to understand she can also deny empathy, making her immediate circumstances a playground. Jefferey thinks that if he can figure out the big idea it'll make a difference, nocole know it won't, if had to choose who's morally in the right it's probably Jefferey, if I had to choose who's actually correct in their perceptions and assertions, it's Nicole. I think the advent of technology in the 2000s is the perfect setting for the themes of this story, it's new enough that adults don't fully understand it yet, but useful enough that it makes a huge influence in the power balance between kids and adults, giving kids/teens a hitherto unheard of amount of agency and capacity for independent thought and expression. It lowered the barrier of entry to being different than your parents or disagreeing with authority figures, and so authority derived from things like religion or culture became more tenuous than ever before. But the number of youth that felt completely alone increased proportionally. I don't know what I'm really getting at I guess I'm just screaming this into the void because I'm thinking these things over myself. Anyway, if you read this whole thing, I hope it helped you hone your own insight as to what the VN actually means, if you can think of something interesting about all this that I didn't mention please share, I'd like to hear other people's perspectives.

[@Ambivalence18]

Thank you for writing so much. I love that someone would write over 1,000 words about my content!

[@MrEgg-zb2nf]

Brother, you’ve restored my faith in humanity

[@Sykroid]

Not only did you analyze this all the way down to the deepest, most complex level, but you also phrased everything perfectly. It's concise, yet hits the mark and covers the characters in their entirety. Amazing job man. Also I know you wanted to elaborate on how this flips the standard VN on it's head, but that would require it's own write-up lol. What I WILL add, however, is that yes the game seems to reflect the freedom the irl teens of '09 were given via the internet and escape from cultural boundaries. It does this by literally making the social and societal "system" incapable of working the way it's supposed to. Nicole is given freedom to do whatever she wants, so nothing stops her from abusing everything to her advantage. It shows just how far somebody can go when barricades like parental figures, social pressure, and empathy are all just background noise that's easily bypassed with no regard. However, _being uninformed_ is another lifted barricade. Nicole knows how to abuse the system, manipulate people, obtain drugs/pills, and recognize most dangers (like grooming, gaslighting, and coercion), so she's given the tools to take advantage of her freedom. This is basically what you already said, but less on a character-driven level, and instead on a societal one lol.

[@yikes2872]

This is a perfect analysis over class of 09!!! Like it perfectly captures everything about Nicole and Jeffery, and how our patriarchy, bullying, and systemic oppression plays a role into their lives. However, I find it really funny that the reason this started wasn't because jeffery felt shock and disgust over what the teachers, offering condolences or maybe thinking about his actions and what he has done to the girls at this school but what speaking out against abusers and pedophiles did to him. It just took away his spotlight, he's still valedictorian, he will still have a good school, but because Nicole spoke out in the most public setting, a setting she wont be dismissed or ignored by, that's what get's him upset. However we also know Nicole. We know she wasn't doing this to help people she did want to make one big remark, a final hit, before she went to college, but at the same time this was the perfect opportunity to say these things because they made her high school experience worse too. She was ignored by everyone when serious issues arose, only valued by her looks, and you can see how that mindset has effected every single girl in this game. However you can see Jefferys side, like you beautifully mentioned in your analysis. He wanted this attention, needed it, because he was emotionally bullied, borderline abused, by his peers. This was his "gotcha" moment, but no one cares. For example look at the clothing they are wearing. Nicole and jecka, taking the more apathetic route in life, like you mentioned, are already out of their graduation outfits because they don't care. Just another thing for them until they can do the "fun" stuff. While Jeffery in contrast is still savoring this moment, the one moment he was leading up to, that he was successful, he will show those who bullied him, and made him feel like a second class citizen, and now that's gone. I wont get into the personality of the two as you perfectly explained that, but I love how the subtly portrayed the different privileges, and oppression or disadvantages in life. Nothing is a monolith and we can all, throughout our actions, can perpetuate or push against harmful culture norms, like Jeffery dismissing the girls SA experiences (which is fucked beyond belief) but these are also the people who made his life a living hell in high school too. It's just interesting

[@procyon6445]

Dang. I ain’t readin all that but cool man

[@rookiewarrior6419]

When they said coke I was thinking of the soda. I'm way too old to be this clueless.

[@user-tq8vv4yz4k]

LMAOO

[@lattythepatty]

Me toooo

[@AntiUni417]

I’m 18 and I still thought of the soda 💀

[@phenomenalprofile7189]

golden sun pfp my brother 🙏

[@luvquixs]

n im 14 and i thought of the ew icky stuff 😭😭

[@zeroanonymity9736]

God it's a genuinely incredible moment. Like that's a perfect summation of the game, isn't it? Jeffrey presumably being the player before playing the game. It's a weirdly empathetic and even sweet admission on the game's part in the form of another hilariously well paced skit.

[@Mr_Unpopular]

Perfect example of “the grass is always greener on the other side”

[@GuyDoesJob]

Wouldn’t be “isn’t always greener on the other side”?

[@arandomdoggu7516]

i dont understand this quote

[@csarine]

I like this ending because even though the reasoning for Nicole acting out is obvious, it sums her behaviour up pretty well. And, I guess people who are only liked solely for their looks tend to feel this way a lot. No wonder why Nicole's suffering so much.

[@guidomista9565]

Class of 09: the realest depiction of high-school

[@C_Films.]

Fr like even tho it’s exaggerates a lot, it’s still incredible accurate to emotions

[@UmiZoomR]

Your HS experience was a family guy episode?

[@C_Films.]

@@UmiZoomR Yours wasn’t?

[@pantommy]

Crazy how high school for me wasn't nearly as eventful, everyone was just getting along and respecting each other. Obviously, some people were still outcasts and people had their problems, but there was absolutely no bullying besides playful banter which was reciprocated (is it bullying if the roles keep switching?). Then again, I'm from eastern Europe so obviously it wouldn't be the same as an American high school, but for the most part we were really just normal people living normal lives. I think it's also important to note that our "classes" were formed of the same consistent 30 people during the 4 years, we all had the same periods and subjects. Obviously helped a lot to bond more, but overall we interacted less with others outside our group. It was a neutral experience. Didn't feel like I gained much from it. Literally 4 years of nothing much from all sides, maybe besides the knowledge everyone is expected to get. It is of note that our high school system makes it so people are segregated based on a test begore they go to high school, so I ended up with other "smart" people, which I think contributed to the overall nice experience. I can't talk for the lower end high schools besides anecdotes from people who went there, and allegedly they're like warzones and jungles full of delinquency and sunstance abuse. Soo.. in short I'm just upper class and never got to experience average struggles. I suppose.

[@Iknowimoffbrand.]

@@pantommypersonally I live in France and Middle school is kind of a better way to describe class of 09 for me (not to say that class of 09 will be better in middle school IT SHOULD STAY IN HIGHSCHOOL) But i see some parallels between my class and the class of Nicole (exept I definitely am not Nicole(exept I see similarities between her and me ) And I am not in high school yet but but my brother was and he said that it was calm

[@kyrarose4517]

"How would you let some crazy guy get your number like that in the first place?" Hearing this asked hurt. The auto-response most the time really is just "Oh, you're being harassed? It's your fault for being vulnerable" Excuse me??

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

It’s giving “what were you wearing?”

[@digidittoboy]

I've thought about this a lot. It depends where the question coming from. Because for me personally and I like to think most people it's about finding the crazy persons basis in reality. because Nicole right about obsession

[@lordeugene4907]

It is Lol

[@chaosblitz1352]

The contrast between Jeffrey and Nicole reminds me of the movie "Two Distant Strangers" Jeffrey does not understand the extent of 'attention' Nicole gets and undermines the amount of sexual harassment, trauma, and threats she receives naturally. This is why Nicole is harsh to other people as they only see her for body, especially the adult holy shit, they are terrible people Jeffrey is right when he says "Every time I try to have a normal convo you just make it a joke about me" And I know it's a joke, but it's obvious by now that Nicole's "jokes" are very mean-spirited. Despite all the trauma, Nicole just overall seems like she's incapable of being kind. And yes, sociopaths are capable of expressing generosity or kindness.

[@christianbethel]

They can be kind to accomplish a goal, nothing more.

[@bearzinluvzxd]

​@@christianbethel no? Sociopathy is part of the antisocial personality disorder, together with psychopathy. Both of them can actually feel for someone, they can care and be kind just as much, it is just hard because their disorder makes them disregard feelings and have a lower empathy. It's not that they're aways manipulative, it's simply that they have a hard time putting thenselves in other's shoes and are aways looking for immediate gratification.

[@nvrneffa]

Nicole said herself she wasn't always pretty, not always the "popular socially spoiled girl" she was once left out and most likely picked on so when jeffery says she doesn't understand she def has experienced it.

[@cookiecat7759]

Yes!

[@MoikaSwirl_]

Never played class of ‘09 but from all the conversations I’ve seen with Nicole this feels like the one conversation she takes seriously

[@amandahugenkiss2310]

What I like about this is that both of them are in the wrong. . Both of their suffering is valid, but instead of having the empathy to understand the others problems, they dismiss them. If they just stopped and thought about what the other has to go through, this could have been the beginning of a friendship rather than a pissing contest as to who has it worse. It shows what happens when you only think of your own problems and don’t empathize what others may be feeling

[@CaptainUndead]

There is no way that these two could be friends the way they are at this point. Look at that SA - loneliness pissing contest in that other thread down there, it's the same thing. Only in another world where they weren't both blinded by overwhelming trauma could they really understand. Oh and yeah sure Nicole has a good idea of what it's like to be Jeffrey. But at this point she's put up her walls and learned that empathy is vulnerability and weakness, and bitterness and cynicism is the shield that keeps her safe. So it's no longer a choice to try to reach out, so it doesn't matter. Kindness is just the girl hormones talking anyway.

[@MidnightDrake]

@@CaptainUndead Woah-kay buddy. Didn't need to say that cynicism is the only right thing in this world. The key is a balance of both. Hell, I just got done with freshman and I already know that. I'm a cynical piece of shit, yet I still try to balance that out with the acts that I do on a daily basis.

[@sylvia-mae-bombkitty]

​@@MidnightDrakeI don't think they were saying that as what they think, moreso as to what Nicole thinks

[@cipher697]

instead of this i got some weird irl video that was low quality of someone running into the woods with a knife.

[@Ambivalence18]

That’s in class of 09 the re up. This is regular class of 09. The weird irl video is also on my channel!

[@watermelonvomit]

​@@Ambivalence18how do i get to see this ingame???

[@RenShinomiya121]

that's Re-Up, it's a cool secret video though, i think it alludes to Jecka probably being the playable character instead of Nicole when a third game pops up someday.

[@heckerlil6171]

@@RenShinomiya121u Called it

[@RenShinomiya121]

@@heckerlil6171 is this truly how i found out there's a trailer for the new game??? If so, thank you AND HELL YEAH JECKAAAAA

[@petrichor04_]

evangelion if it took place in a high school in the late 2000s

[@singracia1]

One thing that makes me understand Nicole it's the fact she is honest about how horrible she is, she doesn't hide it but she also plays along the way to hummilate others once they don't stop trying to get on her life, which is horrible but it's not quite unprovoked in the context of the game, all the guys are quite horrible and Jeffery is gross when given the most basic sense of confidence, he sees himself as a victim of Nicole but no one asked him to keep searching for her, anyone with self respect would avoid Nicole as the plague but they want her bc she is hot and a girl, he is a victim of his familiar background and bullying yes but Nicole is just the tip of the iceberg and yet he makes her into the breaking point in a way (ignoring the routes where she makes him go literally ballistic), I mean even in this ending she is brought to the scenario not by choice but by him and the principal, what did they expect from literally fucking Nicole who hates everyone and herself, no way she was gonna say oh I love high-school and this random anime obsessed boy

[@itzskye7074]

Average Misandrist-Incel interaction

[@sameenmacaron5398]

Misandrist 😭😭😭

[@anintrovertonyoutube5271]

New realest description of this scene ever this is so accurate 😭

[@go-at7783]

@@sameenmacaron5398 I mean he's not wrong, but the reason she acts the way she does is def justified, even if it does make her horrible

[@mac_mule]

​@@sameenmacaron5398 she hates men so like, its not like hes wrong or anything.

[@sameenmacaron5398]

@@mac_mule no he’s right its just rlly funny when people act like misandry is anything near equivalent to misogyny

[@AJGsTV]

Jeffery’s ignorance to Nicolle’s issues doesn’t begin to justify her actions. I don’t really care who has it worse… Jeffery can be saved.

[@Unholy_Triforce]

This scene wasn't meant to justify her actions. It's meant to show Jeffery that things aren't black and whote. All attention isn't good attention.

[@oceanman_8370]

This really made the game for me. It really summed up all the ideas the game tackles with in a nice complex way. Moments like this make class of 09 stand out as more than the game where that anime girl does crack

[@agostinhoneto6653]

Both of them are right in the wrong way, being bullied thru school and being SA'd are both horrible things and even if society tries to downplay it both problems ate valid and need a solution. "Is he really comparing SA to lonelyness?" No, he is saying his situation is worse because he doesnt see Nicole suffering about her situation, because she can cope with it by joking and drugs, jeffrey doesnt go that way. Both of them got valid problems, but they dont give a shit about the other because ppl only look into themselves. Try putting yourself on the other situation suffering from SA or bullying EVERY DAY. Its traumatic.

[@digidittoboy]

I love this. Both of them have a fucked situation and both of them acknowledged that the others situation is fucked and have a moment

[@Ladisepic]

Im pretty sure this is after the valedictorian ending where nicole calls the school out, i wonder if thats the canon ending? It does somewhat feel like a setup to another game in a way

[@Dxguwu]

It is, in the start of the video Jecka ask where Nicole has been. And her clothes is the same as when she talk to P.Lynn in the valedictorian ending

[@popstar1084]

it is a setup. the upcoming c09 game is focused on jecka’s events post-grad

[@dennisg.6389]

No class of 09 the re up was between this game and flipside​@@popstar1084

[@nomad5195]

This pretty much proves that the adulthood graduation ending is canon.

[@maxisgorgeous4008]

The way im both nicole and jeffery…jeffery in school and nicole off school

[@serioussilliness2064]

Yeah many people, maybe not most, have to deal with no one even pretending to gaf about them, then at certain hours at certain times, so many hounds just want to fkn slobber all over and get mad you don't want their body up in your personal space.

[@Iranoutofideasforachannelname]

Even with all the messed up shit Jeffery does, I still find it hard to hate him. Loneliness is one of the most mentally damaging things out there, and I find quite simple why he wouldn't understand what Nicole is talking about. Tf is wrong with me💀

[@maxisgorgeous4008]

@@Iranoutofideasforachannelname i can relate a lot more to nicole. I don’t really relate to jeffery except in this scene

[@-M_-]

Do NOT act like these fools 💀🙏🏽

[@romix6427]

I GUESS WE'LL NEVER KNOW 🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🎤🎤🎤

[@jibsee]

maryland mentioned RAHH

[@csbanahan]

I feel like I just watched Arsenic and Cyanide get into a screaming match.

[@Ambivalence18]

@@csbanahan two toxic people!!!

[@FoxBoyJack]

Just got this ending tonight… really sad…

[@OliveOilFan]

Both make very valid points. When you actually play the games and think about it, Jeffery is lonely but everyone knows that, but so is Nicole. If she wasn’t attractive she’d be forgotten and ignored just like him. Both are lonely in the end

[@Nathan15038]

A wiseman one said “and that’s just how life goes”

[@goldinggo8444]

Why do I feel like they could be a good trio? (If Jeffrey is acting like this in this secret the entire time)

[@Ambivalence18]

Haha that would be funny

[@NinaYen-uu3qi]

Is he seriously comparing SA to loneliness

[@Florescentia02]

unfortunately a lot of people like him make that comparison

[@awkwardme6009]

I think the problem is that people like him genuinely think these kinds of interactions are positive for people who get assaulted. If youre deprived of all social interaction you would think any kind of attention is positive and therefore think women who call out SA are “attention seeking”. Not saying that way of thinking is correct bc ofc its not, but i think thats the general incel mindset

[@lemurpotatoes7988]

Loneliness is worse for people's health than smoking. Most men will happily risk their lives to try to find social support.

[@Florescentia02]

@@lemurpotatoes7988 yeah but SA is worse than both of those

[@lemurpotatoes7988]

@@Florescentia02 proof?

[@shibuyadaemon9111]

dude this was actually really cool. it was a genuine conversation. class of 09 has the power to have so many fucking layers

[@Ambivalence18]

Thank you all for 10,000 views! I haven’t gotten this many in awhile!

[@MugenItami]

👽

[@xXWIRST_B1TEXx]

Comparing loneliness and SA is crazzyy jeffrey 😭

[@OliveOilFan]

A lot of men would want that instead of being lonely

[@popothegenie3035]

He's not comparing SA to loneliness, he's comparing having so much attention by people of the opposite sex to the point of it being creepy and a danger to you to being lonely. Also lets not act like he wasn't physically assaulted multiple times for just existing.

[@Unholy_Triforce]

​@@popothegenie3035 1. Nobody would want taht kind of attention knowing what others are expecting by giving it. Jeffery doesn't tale that seriously 2. Sexual Assault is very different from Physical assault, so I don't know why you even bothered mentioning that.

[@popothegenie3035]

@@Unholy_Triforce All I'm saying is Nicole gets a ton of unwanted attention and abuse because everyone wants to fuck her and Jeffrey gets a ton of unwanted attention and abuse because everyone hates him so of course he would rather be in Nicole's position.

[@Unholy_Triforce]

​@@popothegenie3035The only people who say they would want to be in that position are people who energy experienced it who don't think things through. That's why Nicole tried to explain exactly what kind of attention he'd be receiving. That sort of borderline stalker attention if soemthing no sane person would ever wat, even if they are lonely

[@zippyfish]

this wasnt in the game when it first came out. the phone feature wasnt either, the text files were pasted directly on your desktop whenever you got an ending

[@Ambivalence18]

That’s cool!

[@MrTrigun1]

What was that and why did I watch it all

[@Ambivalence18]

It’s an insane game lol. Also I love Trigun!

[@doctorbean683]

That about summarizes my entire experience perfectly

[@Bucko_Bill]

Thats class of 09 for you lol

[@KaimationOffical]

Basically when the person everyone hates meets the person everyone is obbesed with

[@MrDKDJ]

I’m not sure if I’m missing some important context here, but the dude is right on the money. You might have obsessed weirdos after you, just been let go from your job, or lost your family, but doing the wrong thing is still wrong. The guy had the courage to stand up to the two bullies, so it’s confusing to hear him wallowing in self pity. Everyone is privileged in ways they didn’t earn and disadvantage in ways they don’t deserve, so why make life harder for everyone?

[@candybot3858]

Jeffery (nerd boy) is shown throughout this game oversharing sexual thoughts , in one route took pics of black haired girl (nicole) in the locker room , and sends her concerning texts in every weird ending of this game. He's very weird and entitled, but also goes through crazy amounts of trauma in this game. Nicole also goes through shit while being horrifically mean and ruining lives , so this is just 2 selfish kids who go through shit who are almost the same but never realize it because they're both very shallow, it's sad tbh

[@MrDKDJ]

@@candybot3858 what’s the name of this game

[@candybot3858]

@@MrDKDJ class of 09! There are full playthroughs here on youtube

[@youtubesicka4636]

Jeffrey was right but was also wrong. This game shows the imperfections of reality, and it's entertaining because it's unhinged, and depressing with its written characters. Won't give too much spoilers though. The way you wrote this comment, I sorta assumed this is the first time you seen this game, but either way, check it out :)

[@serioussilliness2064]

out of context he often seems relatable, but he thrashes that relatability by being arguably the single worst character in the game.

[@chlorinetea]

CLASS OF 09 HVING A PART TWO IN COLLEGE WOULD GO HARD

[@PSIChris]

Class of 09: the flipside was revealed.

[@AaronMeade-gj9pl]

2:47 very good point Nicole moans about the wierd was of school but the moment someone's starts a normal conversation she freaks out

[@Unholy_Triforce]

Maybe because Jeffery was whining about his life moments before he tried to start a Normal conversation?

[@AaronMeade-gj9pl]

@@Unholy_Triforce it also shows jeffrey probem he blames others as well

[@RedCornix]

​@@Unholy_Triforcetrue, nicole was never a dick to people trying to have normal conversations with her. Never happened.

[@matthewgeorge9051]

... huh

[@ThumpingThromnambular]

hope she sees this bro

[@Ambivalence18]

@@ThumpingThromnambular who?

[@6girlypop6]

fucking masterpiece of a game

[@JustSatori]

Everyone who wants a proper sequel where jeffery genuinely develops as a person (aka Class of '13) 👇

[@shimsokshim2995]

I'm gonna be honest: I don't know why Nicole thinks her experiences had anything to do with Jeffrey's point. It makes sense that your past and experiences can warp you, but if you are harming innocent who did nothing wrong to you, *you* are the bully, the abuser. And yes, these behaviors may be your projection and ingrained trauma response, but if we said that about the people who abused you and you believe us, would you give your abusers a pass? Do you see now what it is you are, no matter your reasons? And if you guys are curious, I am actually writing this from the perspective of someone who is like Nicole. I am not a sociopath, but I have given my shitty behaviors excuses all the time, and doing that only meant I left a trail like the people who first hurt me did. Just as I am not sympathizing with myself over this, I am not sympathizing with Nicole either. The only 'pass' I can give her is that she is 17 and has not figured things out yet, but by the time she is in her 20's, that does not work anymore.

[@juliagoetia]

You're a man honey, of course you don't understand. You talk like this is a vacuum sealed scenario and it's not. If playing the game doesn't get the point across, I don't know what will.

[@autobotfan11]

​@@juliagoetia😂😂 Being a woman doesn't justified you being morally bankrupt and bully.

[@konpeitojellie]

Nicole doesn’t see them as innocent though. They actively try to butt their way into her life, and the way she sees it they only want her for her body bc I mean it’s not like she’s had any other experiences

[@shimsokshim2995]

@@konpeitojellie I addressed her projection in my post. That does not make her actions right.

[@konpeitojellie]

@@shimsokshim2995 who said it makes her actions right? pretty sure the whole game goes “yeah she’s messed up”

[@Ashireenu]

She’s got a point lmao

[@Prettyboyfizzy]

3:13 they Quoted Kanye in the ending they cooked 🔥🔥🔥😭😭😭

[@Ambivalence18]

@@Prettyboyfizzy glad someone finally gets that!

[@yasiegonlastie5483]

Is this a new scene? I like it a lot!

[@Mr_Unpopular]

Nah it’s an easter egg when you get every ending

[@purgeautomazero5599]

Jeffrey real for that

[@Iranoutofideasforachannelname]

If you take away every other fucked up thing Jeffery said or did, he is speaking facts right here

[@Real_AlmightyGMD]

@@Iranoutofideasforachannelnametbh tho, like every single character in this game are really fucked up

[@lilliauroura]

you guys are so stupid

[@N3rdzgummyclusterz]

hes comparing sexual assault to being lonely.

[@spiderham5514]

​@@N3rdzgummyclusterz where did he do that?

[@marissfisch]

🗿

[@jaem0001]

can someone explain what backsync means

[@sk8rboy]

pretty sure it just rewinds the dialouge

[@averagegordonenjoyer3141]

O shit

[@user-ey1ot2mj3p]

2 men

[@sk3tchinatortv733]

They’re almost the same person lmfao

[@MancakefromFortnite]

Jeffrey has a point. Nicole makes Judge Holden from Blood Meridian look like a damn puppy. If you don’t know who that is, look him up.

[@Ambivalence18]

idk if this is meant to be serious or not but this is the best comment i have ever gotten

[@Apple_Bapple]

i love it when people say "well actually jeffrey has a point", because they're blissfully unaware that they themselves are the problem. they are the issue that this game aims to highlight.

[@loganmcdougall8647]

But both things can be true at the same time???

[@pontosanaz6485]

both of them have a point

[@ClareAmel]

@@loganmcdougall8647Jeffrey forfeited the ability to be right the moment he walked up to a girl who just announced that the entire school is a den of pedophilia and acted as though she ruined his graduation by doing that.

[@BeefBossdagreat]

I hate Nicole. Her having the GALL to act like a victim pisses me off.

[@oliver-zzz.]

u can’t be serious💀 …

[@MancakefromFortnite]

Fr she a whole ass villain. Not even one with a sympathetic background or motives, just a full on villain. Basically female Jack Horner.

[@sugar_crash6788]

​@@MancakefromFortnite Jeffrey: y-your an irredeemable monster

[@MancakefromFortnite]

@@sugar_crash6788 Nicole: Oh, oh, what took ya so long, *most offensive, derogatory, out of pocket word in the English language*?

[@ClareAmel]

⁠@@MancakefromFortniteHer parents went through a divorce and her dad killed himself before the game started and she’s in a school where literally every male teacher wants to either sexually assault her or recruit her into white supremacy.

[@NuclearSmoores]

Women snapping is crazy since they never worked or had struggles in life 😹

[@XxPissPissPeePadxX]

Tell this to your mother then

[@NuclearSmoores]

@@XxPissPissPeePadxX what is blud waffling about 💀

[@flowerswithoutstems2896]

could you explain that idea further?

[@marleybeavers]

⁠​⁠@@NuclearSmooreswhat do you think your mom, or your grandma, or harriet fucking tubman would think about you thinking women have no struggles? i’m sure you’ve busted your ass plenty for your own success, but you wouldn’t be within a hundred mile’s reach of that if your mom didn’t exist. news flash, you wouldn’t have been alive unless she gave birth to you!

[@sugarydeath_.]

Did u hear about periods and pregnancy and violenc and crime ❤