Classic Canadian Wendigo Stories: Episode 2 - George Nelson, Johan G. Kohl, W. Cameron / L. Goulet

First Nations legend tells of an evil man-eating entity that haunts the northern forests.
0:00:00 - Introduction
0:02:20 - George Nelson’s Wendigo Stories
0:13:29 - Johan Georg Kohl’s Wendigo Stories
0:21:11 - The Wendigo Woman of Loon Lake
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Love this channel so much

[@xoloft]

As an avid Canadian hunter/outdoorsman, I love hearing these old cryptid stories brought to life with almost-forgotten documents, tales and writings. Have to admit I think of these stories when I hear a branch snap at night haha

[@tomv7017]

we were always told not to speak of the evil, or say it's name, as this would give it power.

[@tomv7017]

@D sounds like my ex

[@xoloft]

@@tomv7017 don't ever whistle at the northern lights, or they will curse you

[@dick_richards]

If Christ is your King, they can't touch you, Brother.

[@LisaCarso]

Wonderful...so nice to hear some of the original folklore and European accounts...it makes a refreshing change from the rubbish in all the bullshit creepypastas around today

[@bergstrom716]

Well their not real soooooo

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@@bergstrom716 who’s “their”

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@@bergstrom716 ah duh ... that's not the point

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[@Casper_Espresso]

I am not a fan of creepy pasta, but it serves a purpose. Mythology and cultural stories seem to me to be better at learning and imagining what our history has left behind for us to learn from.

[@GateKeeper36]

In Vietnam they also have a humanoid creature like the Wendigo. They are skinny, pale white, but it has long black hair. It lives up high on the trees and pulls people up to drink the blood. The American troops stumbled upon the creature but thought it was the viet cong hiding up in the trees.

[@donfredette5189]

Can you tell us the website you found about that cripted in Vietnam...please..thank you

[@johnnieknight9379]

F Vietnam 🇻🇳

[@ballbby3775]

U just drop a dime like that an don't give an explanation? Come on man, what's their name?

[@tarancehill651]

Calling bs. There was countless rock ape, or nguoi rung, a bigfoot Luke creature. Google monkey mountain in Vietnam. There's also the con rit, or rut. A giant centi or Millipede. In my knowledge I've never heard of what you're referring to.

[@tarancehill651]

Unless you're talking about the night flyers. But they were bat like. Not humanoid.

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I just wanted to say, that I've never seen a channel care so much about supporting other channels and artists like this one. I see others mentioning other channels and whatnot, and that's great, nothing wrong with it, at all, and I praise them for it, but I see so much of it here, Peter's cares so much for all artistry, and it shows. Thank you so much for caring for all, and not some.

[@judofry]

Ok that wendigo art is genuinely unnerving

[@bobburger9152]

Most native American history that I am aware of, is handed down by word of mouth, and is VERY precise

[@andrewrobertson3894]

A while ago, I was watching a video about haunted Alaska and one of the comments really spooked me. A guy said he and his buddy were hiking through the woods when all of a sudden, a man dropped out of a tree directly above him and quickly ran away. The guy suspected the strange man had not realized there were two hikers but the bit that got me was that a: the hiker had absolutely no idea he was being observed or that there was anyone around and b: the man dropped approximately 30ft straight down to land right next to him.

[@marktefft3431]

Yeah that’s a little unsettling!

[@agbobier2657]

Yikes

[@littlebird3495]

I had a truly unnerving experience two summers ago while visiting Pembina River for the day. It’s located on Crown Land about an hour west of Edmonton with camping and day use. It scared me so bad that I briefly considered seeing a doctor. I was sitting at the riverside with my husband and dog, it was so pretty that I decided to close my eyes and meditate for a few moments. I had taken a small puff of MJ, nothing substantial or beyond my normal tolerance. I had only closed my eyes for a few moments when I heard a loud banging (sounded like fists pounding on a door) and deep demonic voice as clear as day saying “Let me in” I was so startled that I looked over to my husband to see if he heard it too. I could see he didn’t hear it, so I quickly got up and asked if we could walk. We started to head toward the parking lot and just as I started to calm down, I heard the banging and disembodied voice again, only louder and more aggressive. The voice was coming from within my own head, but it did not belong to me. It is the strangest paranormal type thing that has ever happened to me. I’ve read up on auditory hallucinations but I just don’t feel that explains this. I felt it was related to the place and perhaps that I was in an receptive frame of mind. It felt like something parasitic and disgruntled. After listening to these stories, I wonder if the windego is what I encountered. Whatever it was, it wanted access to me.

[@robbyv.526]

I think your take about the place and your frame of mind and the disgruntled parasitic spirit sounds correct. And scary. Glad you made your way quickly out of there.

[@littlebird3495]

@@robbyv.526 thank you. I’ve been doing a little reading about what can cause the Wendigo to pick out certain victims. They might be ill, suffered a significant loss or be spiritually vulnerable for a number of reasons. At the time I had recently lost my dad quite abruptly and I was still really grieving his loss, so that makes some sense as well. Thankfully what ever it was encountered enough resistance from me. I’m not typically one to believe too much in this stuff in my adult years but the older you get, it seems the stranger you realize things really are.

[@ghost-user559]

@Lex Ruth The drugs are exactly how the ancient natives willingly accessed the demonic and spirit realm, no need to have any additional curse if you are in their territory when you take them.

[@ghost-user559]

@Lex Ruth You are correct, however all drugs are naturally portals regardless of intentions or any outside influences. Especially anything taken that has an ancient history and is more accessible to the spirits of that particular region. Or an individual can have more or less resistance depending on genetics and bloodline to various substances. Some people are naturally resistant to being possessed and others are more easily possessed. Add to that an actual intentional curse and you have the perfect recipe for disaster, but I have known of people who were totally gone with only one dose of certain substances that everyone else in their group also took and were not effected in that way. He never came back, and was broken from that point on. I think the reality is something in between. More like how predators attack the weakest or sickest in the pack, or anyone who falls behind. I think certain humans are naturally weaker to spiritual influences, and they are the targets of attacks. Some predators also target the strongest to eliminate all resistance. You are however correct that many covens and cartels use drugs for control or destruction of their victims. They can also attach demons and curses to any object or food, and that is what logos actually are and that is the sigil magic that all industries utilize to control the modern world through occult power.

[@littlebird3495]

@@ghost-user559 I think yours is a very interesting perspective worth consideration, I’d like to look into more about how the natives used these substances. Although I don’t believe it was the marijuana alone that caused the presence to attempt to attack me, it certainly may have made me more permeable. You seem to have quite a bit of knowledge on the subject. Do you think my experience sounds like a Windego? I must have had up some type of resistance, it seemed pretty furious with all the “door pounding”

[@dougdesrosiers4571]

Tom does very good art work. Love his illustrations

[@jeanetteriley1424]

I never comment but I had to let you know how much I absolutely loved this episode. You did such a good job and the only thing that would've made it better is if it was longer. It would be awesome if you'd consider doing more episodes about these old stories.

[@andrewbrown6522]

Doesnt bother you that he keeps refering to FN women using the 'S' word? Thats like a combination of the 'N' word and sl#t dog.

[@douglas136]

@@andrewbrown6522 go away a get triggered somewhere else!!

[@RandomTrinidadian]

Ah, the Guardian of the Canadian Folk Tales and Legends, has blessed us with another Weindego video.

[@rockinbobokkin7831]

This is actually scarier than the whack creepypasta stories. A whole class of Wendigo.......that sounds like bad times come and gone

[@robertclymer6948]

Yaaaaay! Perfect timing on video. The perfect ending to a good week I'd say. Cannot get enough of these folklore offerings. Please keep them coming sir. Cheers from Michigan.

[@steves5767]

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[@cdp200442]

Wendigo is a long long told story in the tribes of Minnesota..

[@SI-ln6tc]

Also Cree.

[@TheDing1701]

Second. Just happened to be exiting another video and saw this! Love it!

[@yahushaismyshepherd1179]

Another great video. You and factsbyhowtohunt are the top 2 Canadian cryptid channels. Well done!!!

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[@worldbigfootcentral3933]

Great show as usual. I did research on this subject years ago. I find the first account of the polar giants particularly disturbing, since i have heard identical stories from other sources. The Rev, Guinard in "Amongst the Tete-De-Boule" recounts that they considered it a 'hairy giant who goes naked in the woods, is insensitive to cold, and eats natives.'

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I got my seat belt on and I'm ready.

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Good day when Hammerson Peters uploads another spooky video!

[@andrewrobertson3894]

The illustrations capture the environment very well and some are actually quite frightening.

[@sealyoness]

Interesting that Indigenous folks from SW United States have a similar legend of giant cannibals. In the traditional story I recall, they died out, perhaps hunted down? Time to refresh my memory. Thank you for these stories.

[@SentientDMT]

The Lovelock giants of Nevada were hunted down and killed, I believe by the Navajo or commanche. They supposedly found some corpses in a cave in Nevada but the bones were taken by the government and never seen again.

[@mirrorblue100]

Chilling though compelling stories - thanks.

[@cmcapps1963]

Great job hunting these stories down and thank you for sharing them with us. Every single other site just throws out the same Swift Runner-Fiddler brothers stories, which are tragic and should be told, but the fact most creators are regurgitating the same material from each other when there are plenty more for those with patience to dig a little bit really disappoints me!

[@HammersonPeters]

Funny you say that. I think my next Wendigo video will be on Swift Runner and the Fiddler brothers.

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This reminds me very much of the werewolf legend from Europe.

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I'm so glad you're enjoying them!

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Boozhoo, Sabé Indiginikaaz, Migizi Dodem, Annishinaabé. Chi Miigwich. Thank you for sharing! 👣🦅🌅❤

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Iam saving this video for bedtime

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That's always fun!!

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♥️🖐thank you HP.

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Enjoyed watching it a lot

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"Bedtime stories" 💀💀 sheeesh, you guys bringing the heat!

[@LeeHardingTV]

Yes the old giants from the north were cannibals. And yes they did commiserate with evil spirits. Interesting how the holy objects warded off the Wendigo.

[@dick_richards]

They sure do, Don't they?? The Lord Rebukes them All in Jesus Christ's Holy name. Read the 100,000 Giants war. It clearly and very very descriptively illustrates the relationship between the 2, and how they worked together. It's fascinating. In fact the nuances it reveals are very very enlightening in potentially dealing with them in the future. God bless.

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[@askwhy2030]

Really enjoy your work. Appreciate all your hard work. Thank You.

[@g392_cs_echo5]

Bro, you do the work, and I reap the stories. Love this content.

[@Corpselordx]

Been waiting for this. Perfect timing

[@Sinamju]

Very interesting video.

[@douglas136]

Excellent video! The illustrations really made it!

[@scarycakes]

I looked for some of the stories, and had a hard time finding them. Thank you so much for sharing on youtube!! It's hard to read while I'm busy. Love it 🖤

[@markmaier1846]

I overlooked this episode, m watched it and enjoyed it

[@Ruthan193]

LOVED this!!!!!!

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Thankyou I like your videos. Best on KZbin

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Love your show Thankyou for all your hard work

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

Great work Tom 👍

[@BowandWhiskers]

My cabins just north of loon lake, one time I was walking in a trail in the woods and it went eerily quiet, then I heard snapping and whispering in the dense wood right beside me on the trail, got the worst feeling and ran out of there, didn’t feel safe until I got to the cut line. I could still hear whispering coming from the direction of the trail I was just on, so I went straight back to my cabin! Maybe it was the Loon Lake Wendigo! My coworker lives just south of Bronson forest on a farm and says she saw a Sasquatch walk across the road that leads up into the forest.

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You're *

[@bgee461]

@@jenniferlonnes7420 lol that's me when people write 'must of'... wtf is must of??? Is it like must have (must've), but for the illiterate?

[@jenniferlonnes7420]

@@bgee461 "Must've" and other word with "--ve" as a suffix that is misspelled " - of" is definitely for the illiterate! Near homophones are not synonyms! Don't mean to offend you with the difference between "your" (possessive pronoun) vs "you're " (contraction of "you" and "are"), but I do correct written mistakes.

[@rmj7306]

That was a good video.

[@SignumInterriti]

The mixing of beliefs through cultural contact is fascinating. "The Wendigo is upon us, quick, get me a Catholic!"

[@Taggartize]

Love this channel

[@mattvandersloot1150]

First time viewer. Long time commenter. Good stuff

[@darabennett4316]

Wendigo, is what my 2 year old niece says, when her favorite cousin has to leave unexpectedly.

[@evolution031680]

Wandering Spirit is a badass name.

[@Kizarat]

Bro I have to ask, do you sleep easily at night with all these stories you share with us?

[@mirzaghalib8659]

i like this video.

[@BigfootAnon]

incredible halloween story

[@frankboff1260]

I wonder if the Wendigo legend arose as a result of Kuru or similar prion type disease from eating human flesh?

[@anabstractlook1743]

Man oh man is this s p o o k y

[@MySpitfire19]

You just got a new subscriber for pronouncing Saskatchewan correctly. Thank you for that.

[@scottmiller2591]

The ending of that last story was pretty grisly.

[@curtisyue182]

If you want to learn how to appreciate a certain kind of food, there is no better teacher than hunger. May explain why those that have turned to cannibalism out of desperation develop a lingering desire for it.

[@PrincipledNaturalLaw]

I feel obligated to say as i lay here in the dark surrounded by the silence of night, almost silent, my focus being ever more drawn to an occasional creaking on the stairs each imperceptibly louder than last as if stealthily moving closer, that the warning at the start of the video never mentioned adults with a healthy imagination 😳 😆 😆😆Obviously i joke😆😆😆

[@alpo180]

What is crazy is as much as this is documented and believe to be true from an entire civilization yet today’s hikers go camping believing there is no such things and are oblivious to the true dangers in these woods ,

[@eyecomeinpeace2707]

That is until something happens to them and disappear and they will never return to tell the tale.

[@whatifwevibed429]

The wendigo is why I have nightmares

[@skycollins7314]

One small correction during the northwest rebellion the Cree warriors weren't big bears. The warriors were loyal to wandering spirits and little bear who was big bears son acting on his own Accord. Big bear actually didn't want violence he protected the survivors of the frog lake massacre and made sure no harm came to them. My 3 and four times great grandfathers are chiefs big bear and little bear I just want to say thank you for giving the background that led up to what happened at frog lake. Dope vid btw 👍

[@HammersonPeters]

You have a fascinating heritage! I went into the details of the Cree theatre of the Northwest Rebellion more thoroughly in this video, in which I mentioned the points you brought up: kzbin.info/www/bejne/opPdY3ujZqaJbqs&ab_channel=HammersonPeters

[@skycollins7314]

Well I know what I'll be watching tomorrow. Keep up the good work man

[@HammersonPeters]

@@skycollins7314 Thank you, I'll do my best. I hope you enjoy it.

[@mirzaghalib8659]

one for the algorithm....

[@jessecerasus9621]

21:30 Riel says: Ouch!

[@unterdessen8822]

The story of the old woman, who threatened, that she would become a Wendigo, reminded me of stories from ethnic groups in Asia and the Pacific region. In a situation, where there's not enough food for everyone and you have elderly people in the camp, who suffer from physical or mental illness (for example, an onset of dementia, that they're still clear enough to recognise), logic would dictate, that you get rid of them (first). They've already lived their lives, they have no actual future to look forward to and they're taking away food, that could keep the productive members of the camp alive. But cultural rules often have little to do with logic. We don't just club granny to death to give her ration to a man, who can hunt. So, more often than one would think, it happens, that those elderly people commit suicide, to protect the group. It spares the others a very difficult decision. Sometimes they just leave and sit down somewhere in the forest until they're killed by a predator or frozen or starved to death. Sometimes they use weapons or poison on themselves or jump from cliffs. They know, that it would be bad for the group's morale, if they stayed and forced someone to take them out - because even with cultural taboos in place, at some point the situation would become bad enough and cause someone to end them. And killing a member of the group destroys the social glue, that binds them, and makes it even less likely, that they continue to cooperate and survive. I think we could have a similar situation here: The old woman basically blackmailed the group into killing her. She said, she would turn into a monster within a day, which gave them a (probably much needed) justification to kill her quickly. There doesn't need to be a Wendigo involved. This could just have been their version of senior suicide. She was taking one for the team, as bad as that sounds.

[@lasvegasotis6780]

No one can beat these things ?

[@ericsimonds3631]

This story sounds the same as one in a previous video about a male Indian that killed and ate his family before joining a wagon train and was killed by other Indians in the party

[@silvertheelf]

Now I’m curious about what a food’s taste looks like… and that’s not a sentence that should exist.

[@SentientDMT]

Human tastes like pork. Cannibals call human long pork. Or so I'm told. 😏

[@silvertheelf]

@@SentientDMT I am the one who killed Nedry.

[@SentientDMT]

@@silvertheelf I bet he tasted like bacon. 🥓🥓🥓

[@utube6239]

Do a video about the Wendigo hunters and killers. some first nations were asked by various bands to search out and rid their tribes of Wendigos.

[@brendanthebdog]

The giant Wendigos of the North sound like Jotuns or Trolls from Scandinavian mythology. Maybe Wendigo, Jotuns/Trolls, and Nephilim are all one in the same.

[@IRONLEGIO]

My thoughts exactly

[@russellst.martin4255]

This whole time and I didn't know all you had to do was declare yourself 'not guilty' before committing a crime

[@orderoftheaardvark6956]

Please give us links to the music you use in your videos Hummus and Peta!!!!!!!! i own all your books and Love everything you do for us! Thank you for everything.

[@HammersonPeters]

Thank you for your patronage! There are no links, unfortunately, as I make most of the music myself.

[@orderoftheaardvark6956]

@@HammersonPeters Thank you Hummus and Peta!

[@argonaught5666]

Superstition is a fascinating thing. When a people truly believes it, makes me wonder if it dosent truly manifest in some facet of reality. Like the placebo, nocebo effect.

[@coldspring624]

Those are actually Man boy stepping out of the office

[@CamreaMan.]

I hope god I'll help us and I hope he doesn't abandoned us to die please god help us

[@misszee007]

6:49 this is common amongst cannibals across species, mad cow disease is such an example plus the Pygmy head hunters also had this issue and chimps who consume their own. So indeed the beliefs behind the ledges of the wendigo underdog are true. Look up CJD or Kuru it’s similar symptoms as described here.

[@SentientDMT]

Misfolded proteins form prions which wreck the brain. This seems to be common among cannibals

[@agbobier2657]

My mon used to tell us about the wendigo

[@scottmalcolm1974]

I’d like to see a whopper on canvass

[@b.5191]

This is episode 2? Episode 1 when ??

[@HammersonPeters]

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[@b.5191]

@@HammersonPeters Thank you, sir! 😃

[@desperatelyseekingrealnews]

Where's the monster?, Its gone , Really Wendigo?.🤭

[@mattvandersloot1150]

Hahahahha unreal

[@natehoover5266]

I wonder if Wendigo are what people see and call the Rake. The seem very similar

[@snakewhitcher4189]

The Wendigo only wants to know where Wendy went.

[@snakewhitcher4189]

It's unfortunate that I was the one to receive this transmition.

[@JackOpulski]

At different points it sounds like the word could almost be translated as "serial killer"

[@TheShadowInTheMask]

😱

[@0kh0b07]

First.

[@RandomTrinidadian]

Yay!

[@brandonferrell828]

MY NAME IS GEOEGE NELSON. NOT. BABYFACE.

[@tacituskilgore2851]

What ignorant, low down, slanderizin, son of a bitch said that?

[@brandonferrell828]

@@tacituskilgore2851 I'm so glad someone gets it lololol

[@viciousKev]

18:15 lmao

[@fortunatusnine2012]

🤔

[@charsback]

The Country of Canada We know today changed Dramatically...When a woke drama teacher wearing rainbow socks hit the stage...

[@one_uninterested_introvert]

Oh ya, you better identify them there Wendigoers the correct gender! 😮😅 (Femme Windigo/Windigukwe)

[@JamesMichael333]

Now that i know The Rake creature actually exists, i don’t doubt that any other type of cryptid like the Wendigo can exist as well.

[@localnemesis94]

Did you have an encounter?

[@JamesMichael333]

@@localnemesis94 Ive never personally had an encounter. I have a friend that has though and she is 100% credible and legit. Also talked to someone in depth about their Rake experience in the UK. Plus a couple legit pictures and videos that are out there. Trust me. It’s real.

[@eyecomeinpeace2707]

@@JamesMichael333 I believe this to be true also. There are weird ass things out there.

[@oopsydaizi3s824]

The wendigo syndrome (when described as a “ mad look” in the eyes of the person who has resorted to cannibalism) sounds very similar to prion disease which is like mad cow disease.