Classic Cars Crushed by ULEZ Scrappage Scheme Since 2023 Revealed by FOI Request! 😲

We submitted a FOI (Freedom of Information Act) request to TFL (Transport for London) which has revealed the devastating truth about the classic and cherished cars lost to the latest ULEZ scrappage scheme since 2023.
Thousands of classic and collectible vehicles have been scrapped, including Alfa Romeos, Porsche 924, Ford Mustangs, Fiat 126 and even a rare Mitsubishi 3000GT 4WD 4WS as well as 70 VW Golf GTI hot hatches!
This is evidence of a tragic loss to our automotive heritage, with as many as 54,000 vehicles potentially still roadworthy, needlessly destroyed for grant compensation to the owners. What makes this even more shocking is that some of these cars had the potential to become cherished future classics.
In this video, we reveal the most heartbreaking cars scrapped in the latest ULEZ scheme, based on an official FOI request. Did your favourite car make the list of casualties? These cars have been removed from London’s streets, crushed under the guise of creating a cleaner environment - but at what cost to car culture? And what impact will it have on the used car market?
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[@Owenbrown-uk2hr]

DO NOT SCRAP YOUR CLASSIC CAR , DO NOT BE FOOLED KEEP IT

[@nigelcharlton-wright1747]

Now that's is what I call Green. Let's all go and buy Chinese EV, made in environmentally friendly factories, using coal fired power stations. Disgusting, there used to be parked in Firs Park Avenue, N21 an excellent Rover R8 and a Jaguar XJ8 (X350), more cars that are still in very good condition. How can this save the environment. Makes me annoyed that Blair and Co were following the EU in getting people to buy diesel powered cars. I know I am not a fan of BMWs, but getting rid of so many of these cars, Mr Khan needs to be scraped himself.

[@derekr1113]

Get your facts straight. China has more renewable power generation than coal and is phasing out coal quickly

[@scaryfakevirus]

Be aware - it has NOTHING to do with the environment.

[@johnelliott9415]

@@scaryfakevirus True

[@dappergent9422]

Heartbreaking. ULEZ should be scrapped. Not the car!

[@johnelliott9415]

It will

[@julesviolin]

Total insanity ⚠️ Sadiq khan should be scrapped

[@alainmerle3691]

There's plenty of these types and age of cars still running around in Europe. Seems that we in the UK are a soft touch and give in to anything they tell us. The UK is doomed.

[@toonmag50]

No, it just confirms khan's ULEZ is a tax generating scam.

[@tomhollandroberts1737]

The UK is now run by Asians. Can't wait to see King Khan on the balcony of Buck House.

[@johnelliott9415]

@@alainmerle3691 Let’s hope not, and with all this technology you would think they could clean up the diesel oil at the refinery before it goes in the tank, to drive the car with less pollutants being chucked out the exhaust.

[@Daniel-p8k5u]

Classic cars do not have surveillance electronics in them.

[@johnelliott9415]

@@Daniel-p8k5u Okay but I understood it was the registration plate the camera take a picture of that’s if they’re standing

[@peterthwaites5891]

Because these vehicles were scrapped, completely destroyed.. ALL the parts that could have been used to keep other cars going for years to come have gone, even if they were "evil diesels" that were scrapped many parts would be interchangeable with a petrol version, so the loss of these parts will shorten the lives of those left... It`s sacrilege...

[@sullivanrachael]

Worse - as the scrapped vehicles were totally destroyed, useable spares that could have been given further life to other cars were destroyed too. This means the environmental cost is higher. Clearly the scrappage scheme is wanton destruction, designed to satisfy the agenda that wants ordinary people to give up the ownership of private cars

[@johnelliott9415]

Let’s hope they aren’t and some parts are re used

[@sardav160479]

I bet the recovery drivers were crying taking some of these cars to the scrap yard

[@Guy_WithNoName587]

if i was the driver I wouldn't even take it to the scrapyard anyway

[@swaitsysg4415]

I work in the Netherlands. The Dutch never had a scrappage scheme. As such, there's lots of older cars from the 70's, 80's and 90's still on the road as well as big American imports. It's a bit of a retro car spotters dream.

[@johnelliott9415]

They’ve got some sense 😊

[@mpersad]

What a brilliantly researched and produced video but...what a depressing story. How can it be green to consign so many road worthy vehicles to the crusher? A really important story that deserves to be wider known. Thank you for all your work.

[@BrownCarGuy]

🙏🏽☺️

[@johnelliott9415]

@@mpersad Yes such a great shame it’s madness to think of these wonderful old cars are still very reliable for another 10-20 years Just think of the pollution created in producing these EV’s cars and the likelihood, of them catching on fire, 🔥 seems to be increasing pretty scary when they run away on you too. Plus the pollution caused in producing them. Is far greater than an ice car.

[@Cortinaman63]

I have spent £47,000 restoring my 1974 Ford Cortina Mk.3 to Concourse condition so far,, and no amount of money offered would make me scrap it, that is the difference between a true classic car enthusiast, that has owned the same car for almost 49 years, and some one that owns an older car, who is ready to accept up to £2,000.towards a modern ugly, car with no charm or beautiful styling at all.

[@TheFoxington]

I take my hat off to you my friend. Well done for keeping my favourite car of all time on the road. My dad had one bk in the 70s. A 1975 L, JKR 188 N reg plate. Sold it 1981 but we had so much fun as children in that lovely big car. I still want one!!! Had a mk IV a few years back but not the same. Fair play cortinaman. Don't let the bastards come for ya👏👏👏💪

[@Jack_Warner]

I wish I had kept my 2 litre GXL. Cost was £450 in 1982, I only kept it for 2 years. I'd love to see some photos of yours.

[@simonweakley3479]

I am not getting rid of my Rover Sterling Fastback or my Rover 75 KV6, if necessary I will give them to a museum if Manchester introduces ULEZ and it becomes too expensive. This country is so wasteful pure evil actually. I will never buy an EV, and will just give up driving but that of course is what they want. London is going bust.

[@Classiccrazyuk]

London can fuck off 👎

[@johnelliott9415]

@@simonweakley3479 He will be fine in Asia with all these old cars they love them them

[@Pauljones-cd6dk]

I'd love to live in London..NOT!

[@MarkyBoy-z5w]

The place is a shithole. We go up country to other better places for gigs.

[@henryhol8538]

I recall mentioning this at one of those sessions at one of the NEC Classic Car Shows; I asked if the various Car Clubs could come up with a system to encorage owners of their Marque to sell to members instead of scrapping rare models.

[@duviworthing]

I also enjoy owning and driving classic cars, but honestly, many of the cars on the list would have values below £2000 and the owners may have seen it as an opportunity of getting rid of the car without all the hassle of trying to sell it. The only reason many of the classic and collectable cars which are desired today is because of their perceived rarity and nostalgia. If for example every Ford Capri etc. that had ever been manufactured were still being driven today, I wonder how desirable they'd be. Many of them weren't that great when new, yet through the rose tinted memories of our youth and nostalgia rubbish cars (and all collectables) become desirable. None of the cars on the list appear to be amazingly desirable or valuable. There are no vintage or highly collectable cars here, just daily run of the mill Classic (old) ones. I know this comment is out of step with the sentiment of the others, but I think we need a sense of perspective here. I read that Cotinaman63 spent £47,000 restoring his 1974 Ford Cortina Mk.3. It's his money and he can do whatever he chooses with it, but personally I can think of a lot of far more desirable cars to invest that sort of money in. By all means save desirable cars but the mediocre, I'm not convinced.In my opinion all that the scrapage scheme has done is accelerate to inevitable scrapping of most of these vehicles.If you feel strongly about saving a Classic or old car, there are auction sites with many cars available desperately looking for buyers. Put your money where your mouth is and rescue one of those. I own seven cars from 1914 through to 2014, both petrol and diesel and one electric. The electric one is from 1914 so I'm not exactly an EV zealot. Apart from two 21st century cars the most modern one is 1965 so don't mistake me for an old car hater. In my youth I can remember Jaguar E-types being £200 and Dinos being well under a thousand with people struggling to find willing buyers. Old cars are just old cars until they become desirable.

[@rappers5719]

Who on earth would be dim enough to ditch cars like these?

[@johnelliott9415]

@@rappers5719 Yes, it does make you wonder

[@duviworthing]

I also enjoy owning and driving classic cars, but honestly, many of the cars on the list would have values below £2000 and the owners may have seen it as an opportunity of getting rid of the car without all the hassle of trying to sell it. The only reason many of the classic and collectable cars which are desired today is because of their perceived rarity and nostalgia. If for example every Ford Capri etc. that had ever been manufactured were still being driven today, I wonder how desirable they'd be. Many of them weren't that great when new, yet through the rose tinted memories of our youth and nostalgia rubbish cars (and all collectables) become desirable. None of the cars on the list appear to be amazingly desirable or valuable. There are no vintage or highly collectable cars here, just daily run of the mill Classic (old) ones. I know this comment is out of step with the sentiment of the others, but I think we need a sense of perspective here. I read that Cotinaman63 spent £47,000 restoring his 1974 Ford Cortina Mk.3. It's his money and he can do whatever he chooses with it, but personally I can think of a lot of far more desirable cars to invest that sort of money in. By all means save desirable cars but the mediocre, I'm not convinced.In my opinion all that the scrapage scheme has done is accelerate to inevitable scrapping of most of these vehicles.If you feel strongly about saving a Classic or old car, there are auction sites with many cars available desperately looking for buyers. Put your money where your mouth is and rescue one of those. I own seven cars from 1914 through to 2014, both petrol and diesel and one electric. The electric one is from 1914 so I'm not exactly an EV zealot. Apart from two 21st century cars the most modern one is 1965 so don't mistake me for an old car hater. In my youth I can remember Jaguar E-types being £200 and Dinos being well under a thousand with people struggling to find willing buyers. Old cars are just old cars until they become desirable.

[@BillyBanter100]

England - can it get any worse.

[@johnelliott9415]

@@BillyBanter100 Maybe with all these lunatics in power I wonder how long they will last public and people are waking up

[@nauticalmiles7087]

Wouldn't it be nice if those people who were scammed into letting their cars go for well below their actual value could make a legal claim against TFL for what was obviously an unfair contract.

[@johnelliott9415]

Bloody idiots

[@eyesodd]

Like with the last scrappage scheme they were perfectly usable vehicles, one of the requirements is that it had a current mot.

[@josephshortt3171]

Is there anyone else who knows what's going on and how much danger we're in .Cars are just the tip of the iceberg there's systemic curuption

[@gilbert7794]

I do hope they did the environmental friendly thing as stripped these cars for spares as to simply scrap a perfectly good car with plenty of good parts isn’t eco friendly

[@st200ol]

It’s not just environmentally friendly it’s the sensible option, usually the biggest money earning option is the right option.

[@tangerinedream7211]

Replaced by Chinese built EVs with power to manufacture them from coal field power stations, go figure . Not enough ev infrastructure, not enough electricity, they tumble in value if they've not caught fire first . Madness.

[@theadventuresofred19]

Criminal loss

[@MrPabsUk]

I`m going through your list now.. Horrific... As someone who`s taken literally hundreds of thousands of pictures of London's older car stock over the last 18 years (many of which I`ve put on Flickr), I quite likely took pictures of quite a few of them, so I feel like I`m in mourning.. Some rarer retro`s you missed, A ULEZ exempt Leyland Princess (!) Citroen 2CV, & an AX GT, classic Panda`s & an Uno, a Tipo, dozens of Mk1 Punto`s (including a Bertone cabrio), a couple each of original Mk1 Brava`s & Bravo`s & a Marea Weekend, Mk2 & 3 Cavaliers, Loads of black cabs, including a Fairway FX4, LOADS of E30`s & E36`s, some E28`s & E34`s, some Merc W123`s, loads of W124`s, most of those will have been worth more than the 2 grand on offer.. I despair at peoples logic sometimes.. What doesn't make sense to me is that some of the cars on the list are actually ULEZ compliant, so, how did they go through the ULEZ scrappage scheme?!? Also, You can pretty much guarantee that a lot of the cars there, especially the diesel Hyundai`s & Kia`s etc, were quite likely what the owners of the 2009 scrappage scheme victims "upgraded" to, I`d imagine many of those cars were OAP owned, & a good percentage probably hadn't even done 50,000 miles (like many of the OAP owned cars I`ve seen vanish in the last year, I`ve checked thousands of their MOT`s, many weren't even doing 1000 miles a year & had little if any MOT advisories ever).. That level of waste is frankly vile..

[@BrownCarGuy]

@@MrPabsUk thanks for this detailed response and you’re right I was also left thinking that many of the cars scrapped were possibly ULEZ compliant or maybe even old enough to be exempt 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@johnelliott9415]

@@MrPabsUk Yes it’s dreadful and it’s not saving the planet as it’s evolving all the time

[@duviworthing]

@@BrownCarGuy We met at the Savile Row Concourse earlier in the year. I also enjoy owning and driving classic cars, but honestly, many of the cars on the list would have values below £2000 and the owners may have seen it as an opportunity of getting rid of the car without all the hassle of trying to sell it. The only reason many of the classic and collectable cars which are desired today is because of their perceived rarity and nostalgia. If for example every Ford Capri etc. that had ever been manufactured were still being driven today, I wonder how desirable they'd be. Many of them weren't that great when new, yet through the rose tinted memories of our youth and nostalgia, rubbish cars (and all collectables) become desirable. None of the cars on the list appear to be amazingly desirable or valuable. There are no vintage or highly collectable cars here, just daily run of the mill Classic (old) ones. I know this comment is out of step with the sentiment of the others, but I think we need a sense of perspective here. I read that Cotinaman63 spent £47,000 restoring his 1974 Ford Cortina Mk.3. It's his money and he can do whatever he chooses with it, but personally I can think of a lot of far more desirable cars to invest that sort of money in. By all means save desirable cars but the mediocre, I'm not convinced.In my opinion all that the scrapage scheme has done is accelerate to inevitable scrapping of most of these vehicles.If you feel strongly about saving a Classic or old car, there are auction sites with many cars available desperately looking for buyers. Put your money where your mouth is and rescue one of those. I own seven cars from 1914 through to 2014, both petrol and diesel as well as one electric. The electric one is from 1914 so I'm not exactly an EV zealot. Apart from two 21st century cars the most modern one is 1965 so don't mistake me for an old car hater. In my youth I can remember Jaguar E-types being £200 and Dinos being well under a thousand with people struggling to find willing buyers. Old cars are just old cars until they become desirable.

[@stdavidboy]

Sick! Why didn't the goons who owned them sell them up North?

[@eyesodd]

Two grand guaranteed or the hassle of selling it? My borough offered an extra grand on top of the TFL scheme, so I could have got £3k for a car not worth that, I turned it down.

[@gixerloon]

@@eyesodd 👍 if all those others had turned it down as well.

[@duviworthing]

I also enjoy owning and driving classic cars, but honestly, many of the cars on the list would have values below £2000 and the owners may have seen it as an opportunity of getting rid of the car without all the hassle of trying to sell it. The only reason many of the classic and collectable cars which are desired today is because of their perceived rarity and nostalgia. If for example every Ford Capri etc. that had ever been manufactured were still being driven today, I wonder how desirable they'd be. Many of them weren't that great when new, yet through the rose tinted memories of our youth and nostalgia rubbish cars (and all collectables) become desirable. None of the cars on the list appear to be amazingly desirable or valuable. There are no vintage or highly collectable cars here, just daily run of the mill Classic (old) ones. I know this comment is out of step with the sentiment of the others, but I think we need a sense of perspective here. I read that Cotinaman63 spent £47,000 restoring his 1974 Ford Cortina Mk.3. It's his money and he can do whatever he chooses with it, but personally I can think of a lot of far more desirable cars to invest that sort of money in. By all means save desirable cars but the mediocre, I'm not convinced.In my opinion all that the scrapage scheme has done is accelerate to inevitable scrapping of most of these vehicles.If you feel strongly about saving a Classic or old car, there are auction sites with many cars available desperately looking for buyers. Put your money where your mouth is and rescue one of those. I own seven cars from 1914 through to 2014, both petrol and diesel and one electric. The electric one is from 1914 so I'm not exactly an EV zealot. Apart from two 21st century cars the most modern one is 1965 so don't mistake me for an old car hater. In my youth I can remember Jaguar E-types being £200 and Dinos being well under a thousand with people struggling to find willing buyers. Old cars are just old cars until they become desirable.

[@eyesodd]

@@duviworthing Your last line basically sums it up. But there in lies the problem, there will be no desirable cars left for this generation of youths as everything they are growing up with will be scrapped. The reason there was no "proper" classics on the list because if it was over 40yrs old it's ulez exempt anyway.

[@duviworthing]

@@eyesodd True, but the younger generation seem to have little interest in maintaining older cars and in a few years time most cars will be priced off the roads for the average person. Wealthy people will continue to drive valuable classics because they won't have the same financial constraints. When fuel tax and excise duty are beyond the pockets of ordinary people how desirable do you think ordinary cars will be? Also, if you believe the 40 year exemption will last much longer, just look at France and Germany. I go on several rallies a year in Europe and many of the German and French owners have their cars registered in the UK because the 30 year rule in their countries is so draconian as to make their cars useless if registered in their own countries. Unless you're wealthy, non compliant cars will be priced off the road.

[@MeYou-yz2yz]

If all the BMWs are scrapped how will they deliver drugs? 🤣

[@RedPillRachel]

I just download the CSV, and 3 of my forever cars (Toyota Urban Cruiser 1.4D4D) were scrapped in this scheme. This machine gives 50+ mpg, more driven with skill long distance. Not about the environment. Mine will be a classic, I'll make it so.

[@jamesdecross1035]

Argh… you're going to break my heart with this news. So sad.

[@eyesodd]

My borough of Merton offered us another £1k on top of the tfl money, i still turned it down.

[@Roy-gi5ul]

Good for you! An excellent example.

[@michealkaveinir]

This is absolutely maddening, so many classic's and potential classic's squandered. It's not just the waste but the idiocy of the people scrapping vehicles of which value often far exceeded £2K - this being the case why not let somebody else have the pleasure of ownership. Who watching this video wouldn't jump at the chance to get their hands on one of these beauties or at least know someone who would?! A sad video sir but thankyou for posting.

[@hoonaticbloggs5402]

Meanwhile in Central Europe there is a billion 1.9 TDI ‘s driving about

[@tobyhall7617]

Crazy how these cars are being scrapped if I had one I'd rather give it away for free rather it be scrapped

[@kass9722]

how many times have you given away £2000?

[@tobyhall7617]

@@kass9722 some of these cars are worth alot more than 2k

[@roberttaylor5995]

Yeah, this is green indeed. ICE powered cars crushed, to be replaced by fire hazard, charging headache, one bump right off, tyre wearing, cold weather limited mileage and limited battery life contraptions. Battery cell technology 'v' weight & size is NOT there yet, neither is the charging infrastructure. The Govt are selling a lie! Thats why I still drive a quick petrol car, and its a classic 19 year old Mercedes super charged SLK cabrio. I WILL run it into the ground, s@dd these electronic cars. OK for e-bicycles, I've got one of these and e-bikes are truly awesome with an 80 mile range in my model Trek E-Bike! But I will wait until they get the technology right before I would buy a four wheeled EV.

[@MarkyBoy-z5w]

SLK lovely cars.

[@roberttaylor5995]

@@MarkyBoy-z5w Thankyou! They are cheap now, prices should go up through. The R171 model (from 2005) can cost as little as £2k, and they are normally in tidy condition too. Just make sure its got a service history. Mine is in glossy obsidian black (its mint), black leather interior, super charged 2006 model with 90K on the clock. It does me just fine. I don't need an EV!

[@janicewatts5888]

Can someone explain to me why these beautiful cars cannot be purchased (through dealers)by people who are not likely to stray into an ultra low emission zone?

[@alimuzhussain8394]

I think weak owners don’t know how to sell them, and thought let’s get rid of them and get some £££ Real shame

[@zaphodbeeblebrox6627]

Yippeee.. you actually mentioned my beloved and rather rare old Renault 9 GTL @20.48sec. She was only one of three left on the road (plus 4 on SORN). So sad to see her go, she was still being used on a regular basis and still had 6 months MOT on her. I had to buy 6 months tax a week before she went to the breakers to prove she was road worthy... Go figure! The irony is that if she'd been 5 years older, she would have been exempt from ULEZ ( classed as a modern classic) & still be running about today.

[@st200ol]

@@zaphodbeeblebrox6627 I have a question for you, why did you scrap it then, why not advertise it? Perhaps on a Renault owners club website or other specialist classic car website. I scrapped my 1st car in 1983 because it was only worth £150 when I bought it and I then proceeded to crash it into another unsuspecting road user. That one was a mk1 Escort, I’m sure it would be worth a few grand now but back then it was essentially worthless. That’s the only car I’ve ever scrapped but I did give away an Escort XR3 in 2000 a 1980 example. I suppose you did one thing by scrapping it, you increased the value of the others out there, their owners thank you.

[@nathanpinder4928]

How do you know it went to a breakers yard and not straight in the crusher? I'm trying to document any that we're at least advertised for spares etc

[@st200ol]

@@nathanpinder4928 What do you mean by “straight to the crusher”? No cars are just thrown whole into a crusher, seats carpets, dashboard and random change under the seats straight to the crusher, they will all be stripped and various parts removed for recycling where possible.

[@S1E2SportQuattro]

What an idiot.

[@MrPabsUk]

@@st200ol Not in London they aren't, they haven't got the time or space.. You go to Redcorns in Tottenham, the busiest scrappy in London, & they took most of the scrappage cars, there's a relentless stream of cars that go in, you watch them depolluting them, then they go straight to the crusher, & there's a constant stream of trucks carrying the crushed cars out the other side.. They couldn't care less about anything over about 8 years old.

[@AutomotiveGrowthOperator]

There are so many cars here that I would love to have had the opportunity to save for £2000! My mate had a 406 Coupe, a beautiful car.

[@livelife7428]

I'd rather give my car away than take a penny of Khanages money. These dumb people trading cars in they could sell on somewhere else. Z3 and tt, pumas etc. 2 grand to give up last of line style for generic modern toss.

[@nicholaswilliams4532]

Why do you go on about heritage politicians are not interested in that they are interested in what the country can do for them whilst in position

[@gixerloon]

This video showed up yesterday, and I've been putting off watching, because I just knew it would just be too awful, what kind of person scraps a perfectly useable car, if it has an current MOT, I mean who cares if a 1990's Nissan Micra gets scraped they where just faceless shopping trollies anyway, but some of the cars you mention like an Audi Quattro, an Alfa 155/156/159 a Lancia Delta, "any" Ford Capri, a Bentley ffs... just who in their right mind scraps these cars if they have current MOT and are still useable, so they can drive around in a faceless allegedly non-polluting SUV euro box POS or EV, which in another 5-10 years will be unsalable and worth nothing...when if they had kept the car they scrapped most likely would have gained in value... just utter madness. Admittedly I thankfully no longer live in Greater London, but I would "never" in a hundred billion years scrap my beloved Audi TT just to drive some awful EV or soft roader or nasty shopping trolley, my heart bleeds for those lost classics... why didn't these people put these car in a classic car auction or online ffs, but then perhaps the lure of easy money is too hard to ignore, a travesty has been perpetrated on car owners living in London and some have sadly fallen for it.

[@nathanpinder4928]

Just insulted my 1990 K10 Micra there :(

[@Pmjs]

There's a VW Jetta TX ,Corrado VR6&Golf Driver.

[@Kergrist]

I agree with you about the heritage and also think scrappage is a disgusting waste of resource. Where is the common sense in this?

[@dmitrikhmelevski9214]

To participate in ULEZ scheme is an offer that most of affected people have been accepting and signing to it. They have registered on TFL corporate website and have all agreed to become "road users". According T&C of the contract with corporation TFL they either scrapped their old "non compline" car or keep paying the fee to use the roads. Everything in this commercial activity is voluntary, although some mistakenly assume they had to agree with the offer and had no choice.

[@guy4469]

I kept my BMW E38 740I but i have to pay the £15 a day to smoke the City out .But im selling it on the 26th ive just bought a a bmw 750il .

[@MarkyBoy-z5w]

True petrolhead. Respect.

[@richbrice3299]

The vehicle for Ukraine scheme was only introduced with pressure from MPs etc. Khan wasn't keen.

[@NeilBarratt]

More than enough taxpayer's money has been thrown at Ukraine.

[@YegoYTP]

the loss of that one fiat coupe 16v turbo is pretty tragic. not many of those left as they were only out for about a year or so, same engine as (or at least derived from) the delta integrale and the 155 q4 iirc.

[@davejohnson3474]

They always blew up though thats why theres none really about

[@st200ol]

@@davejohnson3474 And probably rusted badly too and being very rare from the get go parts are probably incredibly difficult to obtain. Lots of people here looking at things with rose coloured glasses. These cars perhaps should be preserved but many are really only suitable for preserving in a museum environment.

[@animal355]

Ironically, most of the cars lost to the scrappage scheme would be in auctions now as desirable wanted cars. Especially those that have hit the 40 year old rule and for which are exempt from road tax and ULEZ.

[@vicky_webcatuk]

I was dreading hearing about the Honda CRX, I had a couple... mk1 and 2 😭

[@RogueTrader-]

One big problem now is replacement parts. Just one example (not even a classic) I have one of the last Astra vans 2011, 1.7 cdti as my second van for small jobs or if I have to do long runs and don't need much equipment. I love the van and it's never wanted for anything maintenance wise and is in great condition. It's fast and super economical, I can do Yorkshire to Canterbury and back in 6th gear on less than a £70 single tank. I took it in last year for it's MOT and it needed a new mid section on the exhaust. As it was a later model H van they had put a modified Astra J engine in it and no one could get the part, I searched everywhere online and no luck. They only make replacements for the more abundant older models up to 2008 (for now) which is a different size. The only place that would touch it was one of the boy racer mod garages. They were helpful and made me a section up quickly but could only do it in stainless steel and it cost me £600. With all the clean air zones the van is probably only really worth about a £1000 now. It does leave you in a difficult situation when you don't use it as a main vehicle and the prices are plummeting, plus the rising road tax, insurance and then the low emission charges if I go in many cities. Anymore bills like that and the only real choice will be sending it to the scrapyard. This is still quite a newish and common vehicle from a major manufacturer on the road, I can't imagine the headache, cost of owning and maintaining some of the cars you listed in these times. Is the juice worth the squeeze?

[@Guy_WithNoName587]

imagine owing a classic that you dedicated your life to restoring... only for it to be snatched because it's not 'environmentally friendly'

[@theodavies8754]

I adopted/rescued a 1999 s type 4.0 with 49k one owner first time and a 2003 Nissan x trail 2.5 with 29k miles for the second round. Still have them both. The plan is to destroy anything that can be repaired and replace with limited lifespan tech junk.

[@ianchalklen1047]

I think it’s a crying shame that we have lost some iconic cars. Would it not have been better to let breakers dismantle the car and just scrap the shell?

[@Levenstone132]

The passion for old vehicles is being destroyed by filling the roads with identical dull blobs and the skills needed to preserve older vehicles are just disappearing.

[@tomhollandroberts1737]

The Punkawallah Mayor of Londonstan is clearing London's roads to make way for all the Holy Cows which are on their way to Britain ~ JELDI JELDI KHAN.

[@scaryfakevirus]

It is NOT well meaning at all!!!

[@paulb4uk]

Sad is the people that scrapped all the great classics .

[@johnelliott9415]

Ulez not going very well from what I hear 👂. The money runs into millions at a loss😅

[@ajay999999]

Celicas were great - still hanging on to mine

[@kass9722]

there is very good reason why they were scrapped... they were shtters! pumas for example rot badly, a good one costs around £3k, to reapir a rotted one= £4k. diesels are worthless anyway, if they were worth more than £2k they would have been sold. this is not like the 1st scrappage scheme...now you have all sorts of options to sell, the reason these cars are scrapped is that had 0 value. i had to lol at this fool who thinks donated vehicles are going to ukraine..smh

[@johnelliott9415]

Some crazy people getting rid of such quality cars. That were well made. Unlike the crap they’ve just purchased that won’t last more than a few years the engines will blow up all these turbocharged cars four cylinders, are not worth the money sensors galore much plastic it’s all gonna fail badly.

[@joolzhillman4385]

They ain't having my classic Mini (Agnes) she's my daily drive & I love her 💚

[@redacted629]

Lets forget the past. Lets take a functional tool (and dare I say somewhat more stylish looking vehicle) that might have been solidly built and replace it with something less reliable, more embracing of having a car as a service you have less control of, increased disconnection of the driving experience, that becomes more difficult for the local garage either to source parts for or service. Lets have it 'connected' so that it provides another source of personal, private and ad market rich data source. Lets not look at the total cost of ownership but a company's (and their third party marketing arm's) revenue. Cynical, you say? No... I'm a realist.

[@Tl-rs1dv]

be interesting what actually happens to these 'scrap' cars - eg are the engines removed and reused ? Most likely engines will be shipped oversea's ( or possibly spares here ) . The scrappers were paying owners in addition to the 2k . Negates the objective for scrappage

[@st200ol]

@@Tl-rs1dv They will all be treated differently when scrapped, the same as any car. Some parts if valuable will be kept but in general the materials will be recycled for reuse. No negation happens because the main purpose for stoppage was to remove the most polluting cars out of the ULE Zone. They didn’t have to be scrapped, owners would have taken the best option to net them the most money in their pockets, no one is scrapping a £20k car for £2k these scrapped cars would have been valued at around the scheme payment.

[@johnelliott9415]

Last time I had an engin out of a Land Rover Discovery and I heard it running before it was removed that’s when Gordon Brown introduced it.

[@johnelliott9415]

You be wise to keep your old cars going. As the prices will rise on old cars, because of this net zero. And the push for EVs that nobody wants and dam expensive for what they are, and the lack of electricity out there it’s gonna be fun not.

[@madanto2394]

What the 2009 one?-! An e34 m5 touring fell victim apparently-it was all a shift to dpf

[@johnosborne9271]

I wonder how many were actually compliant but not on the list? also how many of those Diesels were under 10 years old Euro 5?

[@BrownCarGuy]

I was wondering the same thing myself actually, it does feel like that might be the case, but without the years being listed it's hard to be sure. Also it would be contravening the conditions of the scrappage scheme, as the cars must be non-ULEZ compliant to be eligible for a grant. Perhaps that's why they didn't supply the years?

[@UncalBertExcretes]

They will all be old rot boxes nobody in their right mind would scrap a mint classic because it would be worth more than the scheme offers. Most of the classics scrapped would have been project cars that would likely never see the road again anyway.

[@Haffschlappe]

In USA they scapped Ferrari Corvette C2 and C3 and Alfas

[@gixerloon]

I think you missed the point, these scrapped vehicles had to have a current MOT, and insurance, which means they were road worthy, just not ULEZ compliant.

[@frankyduschek3366]

Road worth says nothing, many mot's çan and are paid​ mot's, just like in many countries. @@gixerloon

[@ajay999999]

Sad Khan said pollution is down. Bromley council has said its worse who is right?

[@JamesWing-lg8rr]

Noticed this was added to Dialy express today

[@johnelliott9415]

We don’t all read the garbage in papers 📄

[@YegoYTP]

24:24 Could refer the the MK3 GTI 16v which is just as big if not an even bigger loss. Theres only around 200 of those left on the roads and the ABF engines out of those are really desirable for swapping into older VW's Mk1's and Mk2's to keep them alive.

[@davejohnson3474]

I had an abf my mk2 from a seat cordoba loved that mk2

[@w4lsh]

We'll have to agree to disagree about the Mk3 being a bigger loss than a Mk2.

[@YegoYTP]

@@w4lsh theres a lot less MK3 GTI 16v's knocking about compared to MK2 GTI 16v's tbf, according to howmanyleft theres only around 130 MK3 16v's remaining taxed on the roads

[@robinatorsmith]

That's depressing

[@globaleye8]

Hopefully most of these cars will be preserved by people with foresight who are not cursed by the cast of Khan....

[@BrownCarGuy]

Apart from those that have been sent to Ukraine - mostly likely SUVs, vans and buses, all the rest will have been scrapped.

[@IVAN-bs5bq]

Well it makes the ones that remain more valuable and anyway all they are is load of old cars !!

[@davidgerrard8661]

If any of these cars were good examples they would have been sold properly surely. How much was the scrappage amount?

[@BrownCarGuy]

Up to £2k for passenger cars - all had to have MOT and Insurance

[@johnelliott9415]

Not a lot of

[@toonmag50]

3,000 Stuttgart wheeled canal barges scrapped not a sentimental loss. PS Can't find your link to TFLs list of scrapped cars.

[@BrownCarGuy]

browncarguy.com/2024/10/07/exlusive-the-cars-killed-by-london-ulez-scrappage-scheme/

[@chuckchuckles9283]

On the up side the surviving vehicles value increases.

[@flyinghedgehog3833]

Ulez will cover majority UK cities...

[@SaulidSnake]

thankfully Manchester & Leeds have scrapped plans for ULEZ

[@johnelliott9415]

Not if the cameras keep being cut ✂️ down

[@tonyireland2234]

Glad you dumped the robot mat.

[@stevedavis2541]

Let's go green government should build tran systems in every city in preparation for the future. No plan for this however. We are heading to a lockdiwn. Public transport is broken and there's no plan to improve and develop it. The only solution being sought is private evs which 80 percent of drivers don't want. Let's campaign for more public tram systems in all UK cities.

[@NewWorldHoarder]

So it’s alright to cause ‘climate change’ with older cars in Ukraine, but not allowed for us here in Britain? Hmm 🤔

[@st200ol]

Haven’t 90% of Londoners moved on now. I haven’t seen much about ULEZ in the media lately, I suppose everyone has moved on to having a go a Starmer and Labour. I did hear on the news that Diesel fuel sales are way down in London with some places considering not selling it anymore. Watching the bit where you list the cars scrapped. None of the cars you listed would have been in great condition and I’ll bet they were all at the point where they were beyond economic repair for most people, not every old car is of a suitable condition to be kept as a classic. I know people find Mini Coopers in a barn that are basically a pile of rust and do them up but that is an exception rather than a rule.

[@Tl-rs1dv]

No , the scrappage scheme was politically driven ( and now elections over has been ceased with majority of applications turned down ) also most diesels worth more than the scrappage offer so people stung with paying 12.50 /day will not vote Labour. The ' garages not selling diesel' is from a propaganda report ( from T and E Climate campaigners) , if there were no diesel fuel there would be very little food and other essential deliveries . The scrappage scheme was a waste of tax payers money as well as dubious environmental benefit of scrapping a serviceable car and replacing with a higher CO2 emission 2nd hand petrol car or worse a new build from China .

[@garyandrews9020]

This is akin to Beechings cut of the railwayscuts in 1966

[@st200ol]

@@Tl-rs1dv That’s your opinion it could be just as valid as mine. You did go a little bit over political. I didn’t mean no diesel fuel anywhere in the UK, just within the ULE zone. It’s a supply and demand issue, if nobody other than delivery companies are buying it and they aren’t selling it, why would they bother to stock it. Delivery companies may have their own stock or as you may have seen many are swapping to electric vans for their last mile delivery stuff. It’s painful for lots of people I know but change is coming to our roads over the next 25 years.

[@st200ol]

@@garyandrews9020 True, I’m sure people moaned about that at the time and some still do but like ULEZ we moved on and got on with it like good sheep in the end.

[@st200ol]

@@Tl-rs1dv PS I don’t want everyone to buy Chinese stuff either but it’s the reality of where we are with manufacturing. Before China it was cars and motorcycles made in Japan that destroyed our car making industry.

[@frankyduschek3366]

Cars, like Lexus, Toyota, Honda, the rest can be scrapt, they are real shitty cars or real money pits, and all Chinese cars, including Ev's are not worth it untill now., or rhe spare parts are missing.