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[@classichc]

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[@TheLeadhound]

The most important thing to decide after you join Kungen's raid is what you are going to name your next character.

[@bigmoe4015]

wow that last warrior beyond useless

[@stapleman007]

9:00 Step 1) Leave party Step 2) Wait for port timer Step 3) Use Petrification Flask Step 4) Northshire Abbey

[@Fankine78]

The guy would even cancel it and use the second one before all the mob circled back to him, but no he prefered to wait that there are 20 mobs around him. Man those classic andies never stop to amaze me, how he even reached 60 with such cognitive abilities is beyond me

[@borisxbg]

@@Fankine78 He didn't even put the mouse cursor over the petri pot. He waited till the time expired and only then he started to move the mouse towards the potion bar :D

[@andrewg3196]

​​@@Fankine78he also could've just used the second petri after the first ran out but he was pressing the wrong button then clicked petri AFTER he already died

[@HoopleBogart]

that's like 20% of clips now

[@dennisreynolds1341]

@@borisxbg he was spamming Shift + H which is his petri

[@Demon_Tiem]

"Push your buttons or I petri" meanwhile the healer is getting slapped up by cocaine bear.

[@liupeyhwa]

That healer is moron . tank petri at HP lower than 10% is legit.

[@Jakeito413]

Dog shit tank fr.

[@Thanatos2k]

That guy is straight trash. Hopefully people know to never group with him again.

[@letmeregisterbitch]

right? didnt hold aggro

[@Afflictamine]

LOL cocaine bear

[@Peleski]

That first MC wipe could be a legendary clip. The amount of man hours blown might beat the GDP of a small country.

[@evilmex1962]

or Philadelphia

[@voidex136]

how many died?

[@inevitable48]

11@@voidex136

[@voidex136]

@@inevitable48 thanks, did not see that many before :)

[@Peleski]

@@voidex136 More than 11 I think. From what I understand, they have to leave the party, survive ten seconds and then petri flask. They were dropping like flies in those ten seconds.

[@vagmarMCXI]

16:17 poor healer healing the petri tank who ditched him and roached out. Didn't even cancel the petri after he got back to 25% health...Literally watched his healer dies. Never group up with Lenguintwo!

[@lockofmetal8894]

Hes 100% dead. He didnt leave group, theres no way he got out.

[@PilotLanguste]

Man I am really scared of level 60 content (if I ever make it) seeing these clips. It seems like everyone is distrusting one another and always have one finger ready on the Petri button to leave the group behind in totally salvagable scenarios too. Like the Paladin was playing his ass off to keep the group alive and the beyond useless tank had the time to write "use your buttons or I'll petri" instead of getting control over the situation. I know the topic has been discussed to death and they are not going away but I really do think Petri flasks are ruining the game mode. If this idiot wouldn't have had a Petri, the group/paladin would have lived.

[@vagmarMCXI]

@@PilotLanguste "use your buttons or I'll petri" and he never did anything to get aggro of the bear that was charging everyone especially the healer.

[@Randomnamegoeshere]

Couldn't the healer like...also petri? He saw the tank bailed a long time ago.

[@lockofmetal8894]

@@Randomnamegoeshere Do you see petri on his bars ?

[@mr.v3061]

12:05 was the best part! "Well don't ever summon on zep i guess" Lesson learnt Thanks for participating in this experiment, Xas

[@darudesandstorm7002]

its funny that it used to happen in og vanilla and still hasnt been fixed 20 years later lol

[@jpyytmak]

@@darudesandstorm7002 its working as intended

[@quineloe]

Those messages are just for show, I'd flag this as a deliberate griefing move and would suspend their accounts.

[@XadePsyconic]

Warrior at the end screwed over his healer big time

[@TheColeTruth]

did he send aggro to priest? I'd be so pissed lol

[@turtlemcgee45]

@@TheColeTruth No he stayed in Petri while he watched his party member die AFTER they killed the boss. It was just the Bear add left. Probably one of the worst tanks I've ever seen both morally and mechanically

[@billroyjenkins1016]

He also pulled when healer was @ 70% mana and brought chain lightning to the group@@turtlemcgee45

[@Vevemusic]

They pulled with healer at 75% mana, and instead of BOPing he LoH which is a death sentence this early into the fight. That max rank consecrate fat finger hurt. Also he had target dummies and didnt bandage. Rip him

[@biogopher]

​@@Vevemusiche did bandage after calling oom

[@Thanatos2k]

4:21 Kermit: It's not easy being in green

[@letari2252]

Man, that healer at the end got screwed over so hard after doing everything he could. Was nice seeing a non wipe in SM for a change though. Also that hunter resetting his pull in AQ40 like a champ!

[@joeygawl4346]

1:23 THIS DUDE WHO JUMPED DOWN AND SAVED HIM IS A HOMIE FOR LIFE!

[@4sssc]

It’s not a HC compilation unless there’s yet another Kungen raid clip

[@dip.2271]

Have they even cleared Naxx yet?

[@Halfish]

​@@dip.2271bwl is 1st

[@teoteo6185]

@@dip.2271 Dont think they have, remember that it is a little harder to do for them as they do not use Wbuffs

[@robinklazema3346]

they will never clear naxx@@dip.2271

[@KaLNFoRc3R]

@@teoteo6185 a little? wbuffs half your kill times making most guilds ignore boss mechanics.

[@Frits_Mulder]

I cant believe they didnt realize that if you summon on a moving object the object will have moved on by the time the other person receives it, lol.

[@jvo1464]

Newtonian mechanics doesn't apply to Azeroth it seems

[@BowelMove]

It’s actually a layering issue. If person who has been summoned has not swapped over to the same layer yet and accepts a summon from a zep, boat etc. this is the result.

[@raneksi]

No it's not a layering issue. The summon mechanic has not been programmed to take into account that the summoning group might be moving on an object.

[@Rayzan1000]

@@BowelMove Lmao no it's not. The summoned player gets teleported to a fixed set of coordinates. Zeppelins and boats are moving objects, so by the time the player accepts the summon, they will already have moved on.

[@user-hr2zy7ct8h]

We used to grief people with summons all the time. Summon them off a cliff. Not sure when they fixed it.

[@JesziePVP]

Brooo that's the worst mom killing you unplugging the router reminds me of the dialup days and mom's like I'm gonna make a phone call "save" your game then immediately starts ringing somebody after you just explained to her to let you log out before she calls xD

[@Yogsoggeth]

Hell yeah! Time for another episode of my favourite series on youtube!

[@DogInATaco]

10:15 FINALLY we get a great clip of a pally that knows how to use his abilities, play his class correctly, and not panic

[@Munby1]

Spam clicker lol

[@Alt_U_Uni]

@@Munby1 worked well though. Props to him

[@colaonyourface]

4:20 i like how heal didn't even try to save him XD

[@nayuta_23]

Can't heal stupidity. Basically.

[@nickeeduece4541]

9:02 he died because the guy told him to wait out the timer for petri lol. in that situation, he should’ve re-petri’d when the instance timer showed up.

[@DogInATaco]

even after they kill boss and hes at like 50% he just lets them all die to the one mob left like a scumbag

[@themadlightfilms]

right?? If you are going to have the timer run out anyway, and you had the choice of repetrifying with our witout mobs, he should have done so when there was no mobs lol

[@Thanatos2k]

He did everything wrong. Thankfully he took more exploit petris out of the marketplace on his inept corpse.

[@Jesusaross]

So strange how he didn't even try to spam his other petri when the other one was ending. When his other petri had less than a second left, he started slowly moving his mouse to his other petri on his bars. Baffling.

[@user-hr2zy7ct8h]

@@Jesusaross Not even the first time this happened, literally have 1 button to click an 1 minute to prepare and it's keybinded, yup gonna mouseover at the very last second to throw away the chance lmao, some people work better under pressure than others.

[@daquiesce4490]

9:15 bro he wasnt even pressing his petri lol

[@koza8955]

MC Wipe: “Get out get out get out” *5 people left alive*

[@e.p.s.9037]

Top notch leadership, getting both surgers and in a place where you can pull the imps too.

[@nc3753]

17 dead

[@chrisbearden162]

Yeah HC elite is a big joke nowadays. I say that as one of their raiders. Dude in particular who is "leading" has been doing classic content for YEARS and still does this kinda shit.

[@nc3753]

You are def not a raider in this guild if you say this XD Whats ur ingame alias?@@chrisbearden162

[@mudpuppy8740]

5:25 clicking skills with no hp bars on, idk how he made it to 39 lol

[@DreamGamingS2]

Impressive with the handicap for sure.

[@Malikor]

⁠the handicap here is being French

[@quineloe]

He is clicking hamstring, which he bound to W. It's insane.

[@Kaiv1]

@@quineloe He's French, playing on an Azerty keyboard.

[@quineloe]

@@Kaiv1 That's not the point. W is still an easy to hit keybind.

[@knifetoucher]

what a magnificent glorious 'stache!

[@Plaste776]

"use your petri and leave party" nope. LEAVE PARTY, wait for the timer to start then petri... how hard is that?

[@simoncodrington]

The glorious moustache on that bloke at 2 minutes! 😮

[@superfrede4254]

6:49 everyone knows you do more dps if you keep clicking on the target

[@yetigaming8711]

had a family member who used to play diablo back in the day and could not never break this habit coming into wow this was 2004-2005 needless to say we had a good laugh during closecalls and pvp lol

[@stevinho177]

i'm sad for the pal in the last clip, fucking warrior petri and didn't cancel to help

[@palerider8410]

dude absolutely threw, they had it in the bag but dude just ratted out instead

[@lemming3001]

I'm not, used lay on hands insta in a panic so had no mana for rest of fight, using holylight and consecration at 20% mana they literally couldn't of managed their mana worse. If they kept everyone topped the group probally wouldn't of roached.

[@Gekayshaman]

@@lemming3001 For sure was actually the paladin's fault. Warrior was dumb saying use your buttons or else I petri, cause that sounds so dickish, as if they weren't pushing buttons. But Paladin panic LoH, which left him behind in mana the rest of the fight. The rogue he LoH went down to 1k hp, after LoH, only took 300 more damage before not taking any for a bit. Pally could have just spammed flash of light to get everyone up in that situation. He just paniced cause of the burst that came out. The damage is very minor after that and as long as they interrupt the rest of the chain lightnings, which they did, the fight is easy if Paladin just spams flash of light.

[@c175353]

LoH 4 sec into the fight as the only healer. Consecrate + bubble and then says he's OOM. I'd petri too at 5% health if I were the warr.

[@1088lol]

@@c175353 the petri he used was fine as he also used health pot mid combat and pala got stunned as he petrid, ppl are discussing what happened after main boss was dead and ghost and bear were alive, why he didnt exit petri to help out the team

[@isaacgame7304]

I seriously don't understand how people can play this game without enemy health bars enabled. 5:25 for example. Be aware of your surroundings. This is insane.

[@stefangeibla3824]

Well he was also clicking to change stances… he seems very new to the game in general

[@BuffShamans]

20 years new @@stefangeibla3824

[@LightOnAStick]

He kept hitting them as he ran too.

[@AG-bx3ns]

hes french, theyre historically bad at situational awareness

[@phy-raditz]

@@AG-bx3ns Ah, they are quite special kind. Especially comes to common sense

[@osgrace3341]

Wonder how the warrior made it to 39 clicking hamstring with the mouse 😂

[@LazlowT]

I raid led a pug in classic era all the way from MC to Naxx and that could be stressful enough on its own. The thought of raid leading a hardcore raid and potentially causing a load of deaths because I missed something or didn’t make a call quick enough just fills me with anxiety. I felt shitty enough when people lost their world buffs.

[@AtotehZ]

I also think you need to share the burden. Having people keep a look out and inform the raid lead if something is amiss over voice should be a must. Ofc only ppl who know when to speak should be allowed to.

[@timxiix3864]

First raid leader is gonna think about that for years now😂

[@stapleman007]

6:57 Did the warrior intercept back, or what? The way the clip was cut with the zoom in, I have no clue.

[@MonsieurP2T]

A lot of mobs or bosses have anti evade/cheesing mechanics and they teleport you right in front of them when they can't reach you, that's what happened.

[@DreamGamingS2]

@@MonsieurP2T Yep. It used to teleport the mobs to you but then people exploited that in legion Mythic+ to get all the mobs stacked on 1 spot. They changed it so that it teleports you to the mobs instead and since classic uses the retail client classic has that change too.

[@sigmundfreud7903]

Bro that guy in the dire maul clip was using a jackhammer to press those keys . Holy shit!

[@nathanjones5337]

Lmao that stitches location so unlucky

[@Vikttorc]

3:00 this clip should be longer tbh, we had like 5 or 6 deaths on that Nathanos kill, the warrior and the pally died soon after

[@classichc]

Thanks! Damm that's annoying, clip ended at his death did not think of checking the VOD to see if more peeps died. You can check the clip in the video description to see 😢

[@JCJeffrey]

3:06 dual healing with hunter pet tanks 😂

[@DreamGamingS2]

So that's what was going on! Pet growls must've been getting resisted.

[@MarenJadePlays]

Thank you for using this clip of me, and not the one where I kill another hunter by leashing the mob attacking them.

[@chizzledong6384]

Randomly hearing rats voice in the DM clip was fun as hell lmao

[@TahitiSkeez]

Did Kungen swap to ele so that people wouldnt be able to roast his heals?

[@hypersphere]

he has always been hybrid, ele + backup heals when needed

[@SquishyOfCinder]

@@hyperspherehe’s always been an awful player too

[@RubyPiec]

​@@SquishyOfCinderwhy is he popular

[@SquishyOfCinder]

because he was part of the world first guild Nihilum. Not because he is particularly good, it was just different back then.@@RubyPiec

[@insightfulgarbage]

Dude at 1:51 is whipping out his best kungen impression "Guys WTF ? Already ? Boys?"

[@ChrisS-ep5qy]

great clips

[@juston5454]

05:15 how in the hell did he ever make it to level 39 when he clicks all his spells?😂

[@kevinthomas9097]

he even has custom keybinds. its very confusing

[@xXJ0ck3lXx]

And no nameplates???

[@nikolayangelov3152]

you mean hamstring on W? :D:D @@kevinthomas9097

[@unclephil3902]

​@@dcarter1898Most likely someone who isn't familiar with a keyboard

[@nakano15]

13:56 Dude actually did a good job at narrating the fight.

[@charleswinters9567]

He has PVPed once or twice

[@BabinSquared]

If your petri won't outlast the teleport timer, and you have a second petri on hand: bind flask to scroll wheel

[@Vevemusic]

You can also refresh the petri while mobs are not on you, or do the forbidden petri+alt-f4

[@e.p.s.9037]

​@@VevemusicThis, 100%. If you screw up and have a second flask, cancel and use the second one before everyone and their mother is slapping your petrified face

[@PiratDunkelbart]

Just to clarify this. Ofc you should NOT bind it on your scrool wheel all the time, otherwise you will lose 50 gold every 10 mins and maybe wipe your groups on accident, but you can bind it during combat, when you used your first petri. Key binds can be replaced during that time. After all you have one whole minute to do this. :) Even the worst Classic Andy should be able to do this.

[@NostraDavid2]

Flywheel goes BRRRRRR

[@bulkathos5207]

i hope they remove petri so fake hardcores aka retail players like you wont have some cheat to save ur ass 20 times a day

[@MorticiaC138]

2:20 thats a good moustache

[@MoreMeatMoreMiles]

"Well you ain't hardcore, unless you live (or die) hardcore"

[@philippdi9739]

1:20 How ... ahh I ... these team mates are ... **sobbing** ...awesome **wipes tears away**

[@stanny18]

the most painfull death was the hunter in duskwood, with all the completed quests to just turn them in, such a pain :S

[@tictcha612]

Nice video !

[@cbzc1035]

"thats not how the wifi works... yep, im dead"

[@ShadyAugur]

The "babe" in the background at 3:00 made me take off my headphones and yell "YEAH?" across the house. 🙃

[@immagonko4261]

The first guy killing people on the trash xD

[@adriana9515]

I love this kind of content keep it up! I don’t need some random dude seling me his FAKE hype about what happens, just the original clip is best for me, I can watch and draw my own conclusions.

[@Sparkasm]

Pally at the end I reccomend Clique. No need to click to target just mouse over.

[@legendofthenight2008]

how did that warrior teleport lmao 7:00

[@silverhawke]

reset/evade prevention on some bosses

[@legendofthenight2008]

@@silverhawkelol, didnt know that. ty

[@vojtechuj]

it's nice to see my video in this compilation and finally when it's not me dyingy in it !

[@avici0182]

That poor fish got gang bang 😂 1:20

[@PerciVN]

Least to most depressing ways to die in hardcore: 10: main tanking nefarian 😎 9: mak'gora close call 😋 8: final stand in cave 🥴 7: rip aggro from tank 🤕 6: burning the tent 😯 5: son of arugal 😟 4: layered 🤨 3: betrayed while MC'ed 🤬 2: clip through floor 😣 1: disconnect 😞

[@Vevemusic]

Prince tortheleim does a knockback that reduce aggro by 50%. So you need a tank with a taunt. Rip.

[@lucas37796]

Tell those morons in reddit that

[@JackJackKcajify]

Can someone explain whats happening at @2:12 please? Who are they fighting? Its a pvp flagged individual or NPC. Someone please tell me !! i need to know !!! :(:(

[@e.p.s.9037]

Nathanos Blightcaller is a horde quest giver and a raid boss for an alliance quest, end of an interesting chain; Nathanos was the only human ranger ever trained by elves, and joined Sylvanas as a forsaken when they both died in the war against the scourge.

[@AG-bx3ns]

tank on landslide almost learned a very important lesson on wall positioning

[@TowerSavant]

I hope no one died in the making of this video.

[@ImmortalGeorgeGaming]

"All users were harmed in the making of this video"

[@eddiewinehosen6665]

The utter incompetency of so many people in these vids when they try to wscape outdoors and just run into more mobs. It's HC know your surroundings and where always escape backtracking from where you came and have cleared the mobs!

[@DreamGamingS2]

The respawns in classic are pretty weird. The mob you just killed can instantly respawn again and they also respawn in groups isntead of individually like they did in vanilla. It's pretty fucked.

[@krazzedk9551]

5:00 why would they duel there.

[@Datsugahwallsplitta]

"alright get out get out get out" after the entire raid dies. What a clown lol

[@Gantzz321]

"unplugged the wifi box" do you live in a tent and run an extension cords to the wifi box?

[@roberthe683]

10:01 proof matrix existence, i fucking rofled seriously

[@Slashoom]

I too have suffered from "retail brain" from time to time.

[@niworf1983]

Question is in hardcore no lay on hands or shamen ankh possible in raids?

[@nayuta_23]

Lay on Hand is possible not Ankh

[@Sumowning]

6:00 L + French + clicker + no nameplates + Warrior

[@MrBCWalker01]

How to roach out with Petrification Flasks: 1) Leave the group. 2) Wait for the popup of being teleported out comes up. 3) Use Petrification Flask. 4) Wait out timer; be automatically teleported out and alive. You will never fail to roach out again.

[@Dalzedur]

And if you do find yourself doing 2 and 3 in the wrong order, you can manually remove the petrification buff and drink another flask to have the petrification last until your forced teleportation. Ideally, you want to do this before all the enemies are there hitting you, because if they are, you are likely to die if you are too slow to drink the second flask. There are enough clips out there already of people dying by not manually removing the petrification buff and drinking another flask while it was still safe to do so.

[@DogInATaco]

Raiders just immediately ALT+F4 and then submit a character stuck request to have them ported to a city.

[@Thanatos2k]

Far better advice in order to improve the average skill level of HC: 1. Use petri. 2. Slowly click leave party 3. Notice the timer is lagging behind the petri timer by a lot. 4. Stand there slackjawed watching the enemies run around and the rest of the party flee 5. Watch the timer run out as enemies wail on your petri'd body 6. When the timer runs out, instead of repeatedly hitting the button for another petri so it activates as soon as possible and possibly saving you, slowly move your mouse over the button for petri and click at least a half second too late. 7. Get what you deserve

[@marcelbruin9151]

​@@DogInATacohow you actually do that, if not ingame?

[@Lucyhehe_]

​@@marcelbruin9151theres a website for it

[@wilbertguerra461]

12:03 dude holding aggro as pally

[@AthrogateSOD]

Paladins still trying to tank with no taunt and players still trusting them 😂

[@aussj4link214]

Why did the pally healer not bubble at the end? Also why didn't the tank get aggro? I'm so confused by that last clip.

[@dappermilez8989]

Pally still had the debuff so couldnt bubble and for the tank he was getting mad at his group thinking they arnt doing there job and said would petri and stayed petri even tho he got healed and all

[@aussj4link214]

@@dappermilez8989 Damn. What a shit tank.

[@aussj4link214]

@@dappermilez8989 Wonder if that counts as griefing.

[@dappermilez8989]

@@aussj4link214 Imo I feel it is but its just bad sportsmanship if he truly wanted to leave would have just left the party

[@silverhawke]

i like how 7:20 he just says "i did a retail thing" instead of saying precisely what he did... took the rest of the party like 12 seconds to realize what he exactly did

[@avici0182]

9:25 this dumbass hunter. I died laughing when he agrooed Stitches 😂

[@kevinblaha6287]

Attacking the mobs ur trying to reset while clicking hamstring, chefs kiss.

[@mattosterud5539]

Why do the melee dps not stop auto when running....

[@geridos3541]

7:02 how does he teleport back to npc??? I dont see a charge animation plus he's in def stance

[@silverhawke]

boss reset/evade prevention

[@geridos3541]

@@silverhawke 🤯

[@mer_93_zhan]

Remember guys - 1. Leave party 2. Survive 10 seconds 3. Use Petrification flask

[@NEPAAlchey]

Nice raid leading. Telling ALL hunters to pull surgers. What could go wrong!? Always designate someone.

[@mikecrow66]

7:10 almost death how did he teleport to boss? Was that a charge or something that glitched?

[@silverhawke]

some bosses have reset/evade prevention -- if you have aggro and were standing too far, or at a spot the mob can't path to, usually they will teleport you to them. this is what happened there

[@Geckomayhem]

Turn. On. Enemy. Nameplates (for the love of Elune).

[@blendererer]

"Oh they have a mana burn, thats why" No you pulled like 7 packs in scarlet monastery that's why. 😂

[@user-rn9lv5bf6j]

If you hunter and you go to DMW with party, pls learn scare beasts spell) that always help for that undead elf hunter boss))

[@microburst3000]

how could it help?

[@user-rn9lv5bf6j]

Hunter can control that bear by fear him@@microburst3000

[@Prediii]

Awesome how that stupid pally in the end replied the same error 4 times. Getting charge-stunned by the bear. So dumb.

[@lacedunlaced2319]

i dont even play HC and i know the order is not "use petri and leave party" lmao

[@mkvrtgo]

That trash wipe in mc was delicious

[@Vassild]

9:11 why would you be sooo late with that petri?? Like you can see the timer... I would be spamming the hell out if that thing

[@autowaagh99]

so that skelton boss eveytime someone heals even with crusader it spawns a add

[@darenoon]

11:47 dude saying they should run needs to uninstall :D also gotta love the tank trying his hardest not to LOS those fireballs.

[@seafood500]

12:18 looool

[@WhiteMisteryWeed]

4:18 when loot is of upmost importance.

[@briansung3036]

Hunter run plus stitches 😂

[@systemabc3989]

8:25 funny af

[@h20bufalo10]

LOLtf that me 12:44

[@Regunes]

That last clip is depressing.

[@SquishyOfCinder]

2:20 that mustache has to be fake

[@XL1813]

LOL "Use your petri and THEN leave party". What a troll.

[@khristianwebster818]

that french guy clicking shield wall and facepulling mobs without nameplates like what are you even doing playing this game man ....

[@Kaiv1]

You don't pay his sub.