Classic Who "Mawdryn Undead" Parts 1&2 Reaction

[@TheElderBlotch]

The return of the Brigadier, return of the Black Guardian, introduction of Turlough, an awesome score by Paddy Kingsland, continuity references galore and enough clever time travel shenanigans to make Steven Moffat drool with envy - Mawdryn Undead does not play around. Can only imagine Sesska's reaction if it was Ian who showed up as originally planned.

[@dommoore6180]

I'll probably never not be a little disappointed it isn't Ian. Brig is cool and everything but Ian's an all time great. On some level it's a shame but on the other hand it's nice that Ian and Barbara's story ends in the 60s where it started, they've not really been rewritten into very different characters (like the Brig is here, or Sarah Jane was in the 00s, or The Doctor is all the time).

[@gingerladyaubern]

I was guest visitor for the day at the BBC TV Centre when Ep 1 was being filmed. I was shown around the various sets by Peter Davison in his 5th Doctors costume eg The Tardis interior, the headmaster's office, the hospital ward, the alien spaceship. I met Nick Courtney and we talked about Pat Troughton and Jon Pertwee. Janet Fielding and Sarah Sutton who gave me signed photos. I watched various scenes being filmed. I was 21 then. A magic day indeed. I met Janet F and Sarah S at Aldbourne Village (The Daemons location) a few months ago and we talked about my visit to the BBC that day...They were very pleased it had stayed with me to this day!

[@ryanpollard1166]

Mawdryn Undead is a real highlight of Season 20; David Collings is brilliant as Mawdryn (perhaps the best Doctor we never had), and it was great to see Nicholas Courtney return as the Brigadier after a seven-year absence. The decision to include the Brigadier and make him a teacher was because the original intent was for Ian Chesterton to return, hence the school setting, as Chesterton was a science teacher. However, William Russell proved to be unavailable and a swift rewrite was done to include the Brigadier instead. While it is great to see the Brigadier again, I still feel a tad disappointed we never got to see Ian return here since he's one of my personal favourite companions.

[@TheElderBlotch]

A few months back I listened to Full Fathom Five with David Collings' ruthless Unbound Doctor. Really gripping and harrowing stuff. Although the best Doctor we never had for me is still David Warner.

[@ericreese7792]

And it's such a rare thing for a Doctor Who story to take part in two different places in time, which is odd for a show about time travel.

[@AtariDad]

Fun fact: Turlough's actor, Mark Strickson, later went on to be a television producer and ended up producing some of Steve Irwin's earliest TV appearances.

[@iaincoleman5947]

I always love Nicholas Courtney's performance in this story. He manages to give the two versions of the Brigadier very different types of energy, which completely fit the journey the character has gone through from 1977 to 1983.

[@Wannabe_Baby]

Supernatural on Wednesday: "Oh, she named her gun. To be fair, that's the kind of thing I would do." Classic Who on Friday: "Should we name the bird on his head? I'm going to call it ... Keith!"

[@nocturne8333]

It’s great to see the Briagadier, his first appearance since Terror of the Zygons. It was initially meant to be Ian Chesterton, but it’s great to see Nicholas Courtney. Also, Nyssa is a style icon in this story.

[@danniemadsen1996]

Yeah. More fitting with the teacher position that it was originally Ian. Dunno Why that changed.

[@Melancthon7332]

Easily my favorite Nyssa look, and one that I think would absolutely kill in 2024

[@AnthonyP73]

Classic Who loves its 7 year gaps

[@billthewhovian]

@@danniemadsen1996 I believe William Russell was unavailable, so they had to change it and Nicholas Courtney was available so they made the Brigadier a teacher. It's not the best solution but it's ok.

[@danniemadsen1996]

@@billthewhovian definitely. And it turned out to make a wonderful comparison decades later with Danny Pink. Soldier turned teacher.

[@christopherwaldrop5293]

Turlough is one of my favorite companions simply because he had such an interesting, and mysterious, backstory.

[@Polyglot85to90]

Shh! spoilers

[@fergusalwin]

Highlights for me included: ・*jaunty carjacking music*, “Theft!” ・Keith Thank you so much for the continued entertainment

[@ElectroTherapyFTSoul]

So the Doctor's best friend is a soldier turned maths teacher... He's such a hypocrite! 😆

[@OldManFerdiad]

hahaha I'm just now making that connection, bravo

[@bradbobhayhurst8604]

The Brigg is better though

[@DaleRibbons]

3:04 I've been waiting to see the reaction when the Brigadier showed up!

[@darthken815]

🎶The Brig is back in town. The Brig is back in town.🎶

[@helenwood8482]

That bird is Keith forever now. 😄

[@SKIP-yj3xp]

In the original script, the Doctor was to be reunited with Ian Chesterton, but I believe there was a scheduling conflict, and the actor wasn't available anymore.

[@johna5635]

...And that would have deprived William Russell of his record of having the longest gap between appearances in a TV show as the same character! It's odd how things work out!

[@SKIP-yj3xp]

@@johna5635 Technically, you can say that's true. But in the 1990's, when The Crusade was released on VHS, he appeared as Ian, to recount what happens in the missing episodes of the story. It will depend on the fans point of view.

[@ericreese7792]

I wish it were possible to see the version of this story with Chatterton.

[@drwho-hj1pu]

Also William Russell was unavailable for the five Dr's as well.

[@DOCTORFREEDOM]

Mawdryn Undead was supposed to feature the return of William Russell as Ian Chesterton, but sadly he was not available so Nicholas Courtney stepped in.

[@kevinschultz5678]

Love this story. And not just because it was the first Who I taped onto audio cassette and listened to over and over before we got a Beta VCR. Also, Sarah Sutton = my first ever big-time crush. ❤️

[@phantomsidious2934]

Colin Baker ( commander Maxill) called his feathered helmet by the nickname of 'Esmerald'

[@petersvillage7447]

You know, it's only just struck me but what with the original idea of having Ian as the teacher... this story looks like it was meant to riff on An Unearthly Child, what with Turlough as the alien exile problem-student etc...

[@joshuajoshua2732]

David Collings who plays Mawdryn is best known as the dubbed voice version of the 1970's fantasy japanese cult series called "Monkey" as the lead character. He was also in another british sci fi series as a recurring character called "Sapphire & Steel".

[@BernardJKD]

Hardly his major work is voice actor on Monkey.

[@scottboswell6406]

Didn't he play Silver?

[@Eltonlaleham]

@@scottboswell6406 Yes he does he was also in the final episode of Blake,s Seven titled Blake, he was Deva and he worked with Blake . I wonder if Seska has seen Blake,s Seven and if not I would recommend it to her to watch and react to like Alexa Chipman and Marie-Clare have done.

[@scottboswell6406]

@@Eltonlaleham Unless she did it on her Patreon, I don't think she has. That's a show that should get a reboot!

[@ponchoman49]

Always had a soft spot for this one. Having the Brig back, the Black Guardian, David Collings was great. The trip down memory lane scenes to jog the Brig's memory were very well handles as was the music score. This was both a fun but tragic story

[@JulieFreyHomeWebBiz]

For those of us who had not seen much of anything before Tom Baker era of Doctor Who, all the clips were very interesting to see. It was in later years when PBS station purchased rights to available episodes. Or some were presented in convention video rooms. We gain a new companion as well. Season 20 is a look back of previous characters as part of 20th anniversary.

[@frankshailes3205]

I'm glad you noticed the music. Excellent to hear Doctor Who starting to rock!

[@ezragoldstein1870]

The actor David Collings who plays Mawdryn in this story is no stranger to Dr.Who. He play Vorus in Revenge of the Cybermen. He play Poul in The Robots of Death. He also play The Doctor in the Unbound CD series. In addition he play Time Agent Silver in the seminal TV show Sapphire and Steel. He also appear in the last episode of Blake'7.

[@DuncanEvans-t7q]

1 of my favourite stories ever. Return of the Brig, and interesting and twisty story and perhaps the best ever use of flashback montage in TV history. It actually means something and progresses the story as well as giving the fans a nice little moment

[@Smilliereacts]

I loved that reaction to you seeing The Brigadier again, I was waiting for this story to come around.

[@lumariadp]

Mawdryn Undead unironically has my favorite music of Classic Who ever. Someone was really cooking on that one.

[@AlReviewsWho]

Same actor playing the Black Guardian here as previously (Valentine Dyall), but last time he was a bit more...blue. And sans Keith. Keith really makes all the difference!

[@kemmdog4444]

The actor playing Mawdryn was also in Robots of Death and Revenge of the Cybermen.

[@AnthonyP73]

The wonderful David Collings, also the voice of Monkey in the series of that name

[@joshuajoshua2732]

The first return of the Brigadier in 8 years and Turlough's first appearance and the return of the Black Guardian.

[@JoeThornhill]

Lol. That kid at 9:00 running with the old horizontal arms like he was in a Justice League amination.

[@Melancthon7332]

Wotta awesome reaction! Your shock and awe at discovering the messy b&ch that is Turlough was priceless, as was your delight at the dope prog rock incidental music. And of course, your heart growing three sizes seeing the Brig again. Even despite the big guest star, it's a ridiculously fun story and it's great to see you vibe with it. Keith rules, White Guardians drool!

[@bobblebardsley]

I love that dress 😍 Perfect colors for this time of year 🧡

[@timothyp8947]

Saw that Mawdryn Undead was your next Classic Who reaction… knew it’d bring a smile to your face 😊 … just as having a ‘Brigadier Story' bought a smile to teenage me's face the first time around 😊

[@robalexander8065]

Thanks Jess! You really brighten up my Fridays. I really enjoy your reactions to Classic Who and loved your delight at seeing the Brig return. Good to see Nyssa in something less garish, I really like her costume here. Better than in the previous serial. This serial is surprisingly well-written by Peter Grimwade, who also wrote Time-Flight. Valentine Dyall is deliciously malevolent as the Black Guardian ("Keith" is very well behaved!;-)) The score by Paddy Kingsland is very bouncy and moves the story on at a great pace. Mark Strickson as Turlough is very watchable. Glad you are enjoying it so much after the snake stories...

[@JoeThornhill]

Donna: "So, I wasn't the first redhead, then". The 14th Doctor's thoughts: * You have no idea. *

[@ImpossibleCaseEdits]

Your reaction was an absolute delight! This was my very first full Doctor Who story and needless to say I was hooked. For a show about time travel, the concept wasn't explored that often during the Classic run. I loved how Peter Grimwade crafted this tale, and I'm a huge fan of Paddy Kingsland's rock inspired incidental music score. It takes me right back to when I discovered this wonderful show.

[@Sandman_jazz1983]

It always amuses me that Ibbotson is constantly referred to as being dramatically overweight, (Turlough calls him Hippo, the Brigadier says his body would be less disgusting if he exercised more), yet the actor cast isn't exactly a chunky guy. The character is evidently supposed to be a Billy Bunter type, so I wonder if there was concern about a copyright suit (see Toymaker) as the character would still be in copyright, so he was visually changed.

[@fadikhoory5350]

or Piggy from Lord of the Flies.

[@Sandman_jazz1983]

@fadikhoory5350 possibly, though the dressings of the public school for me at least have echoes of Greyfriars.

[@nesshane71]

Your joy in seeing the Brigadier is a delight to watch. Can't wait until you get to the end of the season! Bumper KZbin video for that!!

[@AnthonyP73]

It's going to be epic!

[@Stephen-Fox]

This next series of stories is probably my favourite in the fifth Doctor's run, though doesn't contain my absolute favourite. Glad you're enjoying this so far.

[@djco5782]

That memory montage must have been so thrilling in 1983, before KZbin, repeats, or domestic video recorders.

[@Faction.Paradox]

I believe the Brigadier's role was originally meant to be Ian, but William Russell was unavailable

[@KB_VFX]

Yes I have heard that, I think that's why it's a teachers role

[@vivalapsych]

It would have made an interesting story and I imagine Chesterton would have needed more convincing as to the Doctor's identity as I assume he’d be unfamiliar with regeneration. But, as much as I’d like to have seen this story with Ian, I don’t know if I’d trade it for the return of the Brigadier.

[@cuedotfilms4427]

Yes, you're right.

[@stacyp2186]

I read that on Wikipedia. It also said after he wasn’t available they thought of using Harry Sullivan before landing on Brigadier.

[@fadikhoory5350]

And if it weren’t the Brigadier, Benton or Victoria?

[@alexfletcher5192]

It's tempting to get all meta about David Collings (Mawdryn) being in this, because he did go on to play an alternative version of The Doctor on audio. His previous appearance was as company investigator Poul in 'The Robots of Death', where he suffered from the curious condition of 'Robophobia' or 'Grimwade's Syndrome'. This was an in-joke, referring to production assistant Peter Grimwade, who always complained about being on shows with robots in them. So it's a nice coincidence that he wrote this story - and directed some not-really-robots in 'Earthshock'. Everything is interconnected.

[@kidowg2002]

It's actually crazy that I started watching Classic Who YEARS ago and only now I'm catching up to Sass (started this arc today)!! ❤

[@jonathanmurphy3141]

With some of the DVD, and now Blu-ray, some effects on Classic Who have been digitally updated. In this story, the two-color matrix spiral behind Turlough and "the Guardian" can be seen as a haze-cloud, and the spaceship is 3-D not 2-D. And, the flashback, added to with other film clips, including what was then returned film of "Web of Fear" where AGL-S first appeared.

[@wispa1a]

The black guardian also plays the total perspective vortex in HHGTG secondary phase.

[@Eltonlaleham]

Hi Seska having Lethbridge-Stewart back after nearly 8 years away from Dr Who is awesome, and originally Brigadier Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart was not the intended old companion to return for this story. It was to have been Ian Chesterton, and also I do wonder how this story, would have worked out Ian meeting the Doctor again now in his 5th incarnation would have been a shock to Ian since he had never seen the Doctor regenerate and was not in the 10th Planet story which introduced not only the second Doctor but also the Drs second most popular arch-enemies in the form of the Cybermen and also William Russell himself was either not available to return for Mawdryn undead or perhaps he did not want to go back to a series he had quit nearly 20 years earlier. I was pleased to see Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart back after 7 years away been no longer in the Army and no longer commanding officer of UNIT but now as schoolmaster teaching A-level maths is for me rather strange and also having the main villain the black guardian back was awesome too and I am pleased we got the original actor Valentine Dyall back after his last appearance in Dr Who with the 4th Doctor in the 6th and final story of the Key to Time arc.

[@noneya3635]

In fairness in the book, and i presume the screenplay, Ibitson was described as being severely overweight, prone to pimples and had crappy hygiene. there was a reason for everyone running him down about his appearance.

[@TheZeroAssassin]

Your reactions are so much fun, you really express joy and emotion in so much of the show, it's delightful

[@overlordswapi594]

the fact that the camera and audio quality changes when they're in the 70s is such a cool detail!

[@lucasdolding6924]

Love this story, love Brig's return, love Turlough's introduction, loved your reaction :D Also I didn't remember how fun the music for this one was, it's such vibe

[@R.senals_Arsenal]

The Brig montage remembering is one of the best parts of this return for him. I love the Brig too. This is a great story and Valentine Dyall who played the Black Guardian was a great actor with a uniquely wonderful voice! I would kill for a distinctive deep resonant voice like that.

[@russytherutan]

I was looking forward to seeing your reaction to the Brigadier returning. Loved it. Back in 1983 it was widely reported that Nick Courtney was returning so we didn’t get that shock. Still I was thrilled to see him. Black Guardian was great and played with relish by Valentine Dyall. Contender for best hat in a TV programme. The Tardis Team continue to be a delight and I always enjoy this very entertaining story.

[@bananasaregood8655]

The fifth doctor story reaction we’ve all been waiting for!…and earthshock haha

[@alexfletcher5192]

The Flashback sequence is one of the things most associated with John Nathan-Turner's time as Producer. Today it feels like a glorious celebration, but it was quite divisive at times. There was a feeling that the current show might be cheapened if compared to the triumphs of the past. But, of course, this IS now the past.

[@jacobhogan3208]

Even though the 2023 specials confirmed the Toymaker defeated the Guardians, I would love for them to return, birds and all.

[@resiseven7407]

keith needs a comeback

[@BernardJKD]

Nobody here cares about rtd's fake and desperado continuity.

[@stevenmcmullan409]

​@@BernardJKDThe Edge Lord Speaketh.

[@stuartwho]

Three very entertaining reactions from Jess in a row. We knew she would be horrified by Snakedance and delighted by the return of the Brigadier and the lovely flashback sequence and great incidental music from Paddy Kingsland. What she hasn’t noticed yet is the bulldozer that obliterates UNIT dating with the Brig and Benton retiring before UNIT was formed. and the Brigadier becoming a maths teacher please! That’s a stretch except when you consider the story was originally written for the return of Ian Chesterton.

[@bletheringfool]

Valentine Dyall was known for his voice work but yes he was the same actor who played the black guardian in previous stories.

[@robalexander8065]

The Man in Black!

[@Eltonlaleham]

Valentine Dyall the black guardian actor was once in the early days of creating Doctor Who, considered for the role of the first Doctor and IMO he would have been awesome as the Doctor and also I really wish I had been born before the very first Doctor Who series started on tv in black and white on bbc1 and became a legend.

[@peterratter6603]

I will generally hold 'likes' until the end of the video, but you had me at "Shall we call him...Kieth?" On a flip of a comment I've recently made (sorry, might not have been one of your videos) about Liz Sladen and Katy Manning, I love the way that Peter's reaction is to *his* Brigadier - I mean, the Doctor not only talks to but smiles recognition at *their* Brigadier, despite 4 regenerations. Lots of love to the late Nicholas Courtney.

[@Tardistypeforty]

I KNEW you'd love this story... it is such a cool tomey whimey story.... and the Black Guardian.....soo good

[@robalexander8065]

"Boom!... Keith!"😂

[@KB_VFX]

Kieths a great name for his bird hat

[@thethinkingcatakaneonormie3527]

The headmaster was played by an actor who played barusa in the deadly assassin

[@keithalanbaker535]

Been looking forward to seeing your reaction to this story for a while so it was nice to also get a name check (Sort of) 😅😅😅

[@towertoofull5585]

Not Keith, the bird on his head must surely be .. Crowley. Might be a Good Omen ?

[@johnmcclure40]

This is the episode where we learn the true villain behind everything, the most dangerous villain of all-- KEITH!

[@IsiahBradley]

No apologies necessary for the shout, @SesskaSays ; it's the Brigader!!! :) THANKS for this!!!!! #ClassicDoctorWho #Turlough #TheBlackGuardian #Tegan #Nyssa #TheFifthDoctor #BrigaderLethbridgeStewart #SesskaSays #PeterDavison #MawdrynUndead

[@fatwolf]

The Black guardian didn't have Keith with him the last time. Keith is very upset with the Doctor for materializing the TARDIS and scaring off the girl bird he was trying to woo, so he teamed up with the black guardian to get revenge. Keith refuses to sit on his shoulder, so he sits on his head so he has a better view of when the Doctor meets his demise.

[@sesskasays]

This all makes perfect sense and is now canon in my mind.

[@fatwolf]

@@sesskasays Yay! My job is done.

[@barbieslack45]

I knew you would love the brigadier as much as the rest of the classic whovians.

[@whobp8]

Hmm, I probably would have gone with Keith if it was a partridge on his head. It's not really a crow either, despite the color, so that rules out Sheryl... The original plan was to have Ian Chesterton in this story, but William Russell wasn't available at the time they wanted to film, so the Brig was recruited as a replacement. . His being retired in 77 doesn't really jibe with the timing of the UNIT stories, but oh, well. Love your shocked face when Turlough is throwing Ibbotson under the bus, by claiming he was the one driving the car. 😂

[@kivimik]

I didn't click when I first watched it, but the Headmaster was played by the same actor as Borusa in "The Deadly Assassin."

[@Eltonlaleham]

The year this story was broadcast I was aged 14, and also stuck in grotty school and also I say the Doctor must have worked out that Turlough is not an earthling but an alien from another planet when Turlough asks the Doctor the question about could the TARDIS have been affected by the tangential deviation . I also found the loss of memory of Lethbridge-Stewart rather bizarre and also it was nice to learn that Sergeant John Benton was still alive considering the way he departed from the series in the Android Invasion and we had no idea if the real John Benton was alive or dead given how he was seen lying on the floor having been incapitated by his android duplicate . I also think the Black Guardian as a villain Seska is well awesome and more scary than the Master IMO.

[@wispa1a]

This is an awesome series. Yes boys in the 80s did stuff like steeling the heads car.

[@ihateunicorns867]

The music in this story slaps.

[@JamesAHirons_]

Loving this one Sesska. I'm so gonna name a character in my next book after you 😊👍

[@DNulrammah]

Have you watched any of the "PROBE" TV series? There are 5 episodes, starring Caroline John as Liz Shaw. The first one has a number of the actors who played "The Doctor". They WERE available on YT.

[@greigclement9081]

One of my favourite Dr Who stories and a welcome back to the Brigadier.

[@chrisbrooker7260]

This story has grown on me over the years. Went well above my head as a kid, but it’s a very good timey-wimey exploration. The black guardian, Turlough, the Brig, Nyssa and Tegan in top form. Davison in top form, the horrendous idea of perpetual regeneration. Lots of mystery. Very good stuff

[@chrisbrooker7260]

Unfortunately, as is common for 80s Who, the music is somewhat OTT….and why on earth does he have a bird on his head?

[@Eltonlaleham]

I will say Seska this location is well awesome and also the spaceships sets are awesome too, I like the idea of 2 Lethbridge-Stewarts one clean-shaven and rather casually dressed and the otehr still moustached and sprucily dressed in light grey trousers, white shirt, regimental tie blue and red and navy blazer he still has his memories of the Doctor and his time with UNIT which I wish had been in this story instead of Lethbridge-Stewart been retired from the Army and now teaching which some fans found a huge comedown for a senior Army officer who ran UNIT for however long it was .

[@tideoftime]

11:05 You might have been subconsciously thinking Keith Partridge from The Partridge Family (what with the bird association)... 😉 EDIT: just FYI, the word "Mawdryn(n)" is Welsh which loosely means "undead" (or similar manifested spirit), so they are playing off that as a name for the character, himself. (It's almost the same as how the restaurant Panera Bread is saying "Bread-Bread", lol....)

[@alwillcox]

"Mawdryn" isn't Welsh. (Try putting it into Google translate) It's actually an anagram of "dyn marw", which is Welsh for "dead man".

[@tideoftime]

@@alwillcox Yes, true! -- apparently it was a bastardized use of the words, as you note, in adapted Welsh to mean (contextually) "undead", as a creation on the writer's part and relative to not wanting to use "gastdyn" ("ghost-man", as a stand-in for "undead", and a play off of "gastian/gaston" as a proper name). So we all learned something new today, lol! Thank you!

[@cuedotfilms4427]

Some little facts about this story. The word Mawdryn is Welsh for undead. So the title of this story is literally Undead Undead. The music was created by Paddy Kingsland, who in the early eighties composed for quite a few stories, and is one of my all time favourite composer's. Not just in Who, but also for other brilliant tv series, The Changes and The Hitchhiker's Gide to the Galaxy.

[@ftumschk]

Unfortunately, that's an urban myth, as "Mawdryn" doesn't mean anything in Welsh. The closest Welsh might get would be an anagram of "dyn marw" - i.e. "dead man", which is the opposite of what an undead man would be :) It's more likely that, because Peter Grimwade was educated at Truro Cathedral School in Cornwall, he'd have been aware of saint Madryn, and based the name on hers. There are a number of ancient churches in Cornwall associated with St Madryn, including those at Boscastle and Tintagel.

[@jcortese3300]

Not quite -- "Mawdryn" is an acronym for "dyn marw," which means "dead man." ETA: Oops, it's an anagram, as pointed out below.

[@dngillikin]

Anagram, not acronym. TARDIS and NASA are acronyms. Tremas and Drashig are anagrams

[@jcortese3300]

@@dngillikin Oops -- correct. Sorry.

[@cuedotfilms4427]

@@ftumschk I blame Doctor Who Magazine for giving me false information about this in the 80s.

[@joshuajoshua2732]

Originally it was suppose to be Ian Chesterton instead of the Brigadier but William Russell was unavailable.

[@Eltonlaleham]

I have a hunch Seska that the senior Lethbridge-Stewarts loss of memory could have been caused by the black guardian himself or even through some illness there is one continuity error in part 2 when the younger Lethbridge-Stewart with his memories still intact says he has witnessed the Doctor regenerate twice oscreen he actually only witnessed one regeneration onscreen from Doctor 3 to Doctor 4 not Doctor 2 to Doctor 3 and also the actor playing Mawdryn is David Collings who was twice in Dr Who before in Revenge of the Cybermen as the villainous Vogan Vorus the fanatic and later as Poul in Robots of Death Poul had robophobia and also David Collings was in other sci-fi series too, I do recommend Seska seeing Blake.s Seven, if you have not already seen it also Sapphire and Steel is worth seeing too .

[@BernardJKD]

It's not a continuity error. He was there after the 2nd Dr regenerated. It's not implied he saw the regeneration

[@Eltonlaleham]

@@BernardJKD I would recommend Seska watching Blake,s Seven, if she has not yet seen this awesome sci-fi series and reacts to it and any other shows she has not yet seen and reacted to.

[@metalmugen]

Hell yeah, love me some Turlough. And obviously the Brigadier

[@AnthonyP73]

Never any need to apologise for shrieks of joy XD And boy oh boy, if this is your reaction now, well....say no more

[@brianalexander5249]

I wish we could’ve seen the version of this story where it was Ian that returned, but I’m so happy to see the Brig too!

[@Eltonlaleham]

I know Seska this building used as a school is really a polytechic, in Trent Park London, and also the actor playing the Headmaster Angus Mackay was previously in the 4th Doctor story the Deadly Assassin as the Time Lord Cardinal Borusa and he sadly was not free to reprise the awesome role again for the Invasion of Time and neither did he return for Arc of Infinity Angus Mackay as borusa was awesome in billions of ways and he is the best Borusa ever he played lots of characters like Army officers Salesmen, Vicars and businessmen.

[@Jaketherobonrd]

Aww been looking forward to this story, just seeing the brigadier again after so long it makes me happy. Also the black guardian back again from the key to time season. Still the same actor but honestly as much as Valentine Dyall’s performance is great! I don’t really care for the black guardian. But I do quite like this story

[@ericreese7792]

Turlough is such a POS, I love him.

[@scottredding7357]

It's not just me, is it ... The Black Guardian looks like Michael Portillo.

[@firefly24601]

Jess, excited by the Brig coming back???? NO WAY 😁

[@alexfletcher5192]

This raises the question: To what extent do we invest in the actor, rather than the character. Nicholas Courtney reprises his role as The Brigadier; which is fair and proper because they couldn't get William Russell as Ian Chesterton. BUT, Jacqueline Hill has already come back - as another character. Valentine Dyall (who, as one wag suggested, is permanently grumpy because he has to spend an eternity with a dead crow on his head) returns as The Black Guardian; seen for all of five minutes at the conclusion of 'The Armageddon Factor'. And then we have David Collings, in his third part in the series. And what about Angus Mackay (the headmaster), who was our first incarnation of Cardinal - now President - Borusa? And if you think this means playing a Time Lord offers some kind of immunity to this dilemma, why have they recast the first Doctor on screen but not the second? Should I get out of the house more? The questions...

[@williamhuebler68]

Ahh yes Keith and old spaghetti brains. 😂 Seriously this is an all time classic.

[@timidwolf]

The original script for this had Ian Chesterton instead of the Brigadier, but William Russell had scheduling conflicts. This makes this the forth Doctor the Brig has appeared with (the fifth for Nicholas Courtney as he was Bret Vyon in the mostly lost story The Dalek Master Plan).

[@Tyrconnell]

Keith is the Black Guardian. Me is simply wearing the man beneath him.

[@mrdoctorgilmore]

I want "I'll take that apology in cash payments" on a T-shirt.

[@The-Cosmic-Hobo]

From a Doctor Who doco in 1993... Mark Strickson - What advice would you have given me (when joining Doctor Who), Peter? Peter Davison - Don't get lumbered with a part where you're trying to kill the main character.

[@andrewgwilliam4831]

Lol!

[@cameronmonaghan6883]

The Black Guardian is one of the Classic villains that I feel that should return. And have a legion of followers that serve to cause chaos. Maybe including the Trickster's Brigade Turlough is a character that I was okay with in the latter episodes he was in but yes he is quite obnoxious and rude. Mawdryn and The Brigadier make this episode work but the story does drag a bit.

[@thethinkingcatakaneonormie3527]

The Guardian is the black one from the key to time this is the first part of a trilogy.

[@grump9001]

Girl, love your outfit and whole look color combos

[@richarddennis3793]

the last 1 they found full was the web of fear black and white the yetis on the underground took them 2 years to clean it everything went on dvd it sold out in 30 mins