Classic WoW Druid PvP Deep Dive ft. Sodapoppin (Skippypoppin)

Sodapoppin guides us on how to PvP as a Druid in Classic WoW.
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[@TipsOutBaby]

This one was D E E P. If you have more Classic PvP questions, join our CDL community here: discord.gg/jy4EV7t

[@giggitygoo21]

HoTW/NS spec is not bad. and the pvp gloves are fucking fire for the stealth detection. stealth detection>stats in pvp.

[@kevindorsi1753]

Druids are a deeep class in pvp but amazing when played well.

[@natemitchell7812]

Should have asked what he thought about Atiesh and FAP weapons in t2.5 the stats on the new gear coming out are gonna be kinda cool to hybrid with

[@leckz]

Very nice guide, some constructive criticism though, for these longer style videos, if you could put bookmarks in the description to help players navigate through them that would make them so much more approachable for new viewers looking for specific info! Cheers.

[@bamiblok2477]

i never played a druid and now its my main. I always died in pvp but with this guide im doing already 100% better. Thanks bro

[@IndagatorAD4]

Underrated comment. 😇🙏

[@TheJayH]

100% better of always dying is still dying :P

[@bamiblok2477]

@@TheJayH i died as hard as wow playerbase did

[@rinconlatino7572]

Man, what a great video... Thanks for the work... I need to see this twice more to get inmerse in all the information... Thanks a lot, grettings from Chile

[@8centimeter]

Love the vid and you too man. Hope you had tons of fun in classic so far, and will too.

[@justinonyt]

Love chance for this. Tips too. This was really informative. Hope to see more of this series

[@fullbackrb1125]

I couldn't be more surprised and amazed :D I was casually looking around KZbin for new Druid content and BAM! Tipsout the man got us all once again :)))) TY Tips , love your content

[@danielalbrigtsen5282]

I loved this! Good job with this deep dive, keep up the good work! I'm Mageflex from the Pug raid FYI

[@anaoracista8032]

Broh, this is not only a simple video, I was strugglin so hard with this class, after this video I'm so much better and smoothier, Jesus, THANK YOU SOO MUCH TIPS AND SODA

[@orly2663]

This was the real Christmas present i wanted.

[@793Force]

Chance's christmas/birthday box opening stream is what will be mine. Can't wait.

[@radiknarang9337]

Soda's "aight , aight! continue my intro!"

[@paulchengformayor]

It was not mentioned but there are other important druid tips. There are 2 armor trinkets, Smoking Heart of the Mountain (265 BoP enchanting) and Mark of Tyranny (Onyxia attune reward). As well as for the /cancelform macros, if you are deep feral, you should add /cancelaura Predatory Strikes and /cancelaura LotP to those macros.

[@shamrock5133]

those trinkets are for tanking and not pvp which is what this discussion was about...

[@shamrock5133]

@@robertmills3462 thats because in the dueler league he can only use gear available in p1. As of now, there better options.

[@kevinsullivan5091]

Really glad to see your back making content again. Any chance we could see a deep dive about mages they've all be so helpful so far. really loved the warlock one

[@mattbronsdon6936]

Nice this was great. Only interested in the flag carrie side of it. Question - with the FC spec could i heal in some dungeons and AV?

[@yevai]

looking forward to payo on rogue and xaryu, venruki or ziqo on mage. great concept!

[@thesadestguy1924]

Pshero on rogue you mean

[@lincolnosiris3665]

What a beast...pun intended

[@justwalt9019]

Can't believe he gave away everything. Awesome vid.

[@Erafune]

Could be these are the old dusty strats and he already has new superior playstyle. Making PvPers go for an inferior playstyle while he sits unthreatened at the throne.

[@MrStopitclown]

all he gave away is basic knowledge. its more amazing people don't pick up on this. Like he said most people don't give a ****. I bet he loves sharing it, prob feels like an ego trip.

[@SA-dm4br]

Against hunter, you can moonfire, insect swarm, get melee range with bear form and taunt his pet. If he scatter traps you, their pet will break it.

[@davidjones-wr3pg]

Every hunter I know uses /petpassive in their scatter/trap macro.

[@whythechaos1709]

Thanks tips for the great content

[@aasldkfja]

The Moonfire/NS spec is also the best raid healing spec. It’s surprising to me that it’s also the best in pvp too.

[@Harvey2Tall]

Which build? The one soda just mentioned?

[@1415wictor]

great video, when is hunter one coming out?

[@rymaal]

As a Druid I agree with most of this, I wish you guys went over Flag carry gear. There was a brief moment where he had his armor tab on screen and I could kind of see what he had. But an inexperienced druid wouldn't know what they are looking at without the names given. One thing I disagree with is feral is trash in pvp. I think in dueling maybe, but In AV I absolutely wreck mages, can deal with rogues and warriors , can burst warlocks, beat down hunters, the only super hard fights for me as feral are shadow priest and Shamans. Like he said a few times , sometimes the best strategy is to burst people down.

[@13deadace1]

This video helped me a ton

[@SpaseAbuser]

Awesome!

[@lostmagicdude888]

That was fucking amazing... Learned so much just writing down items and realising how good PvP trinket is(lol) and some high level things. I will watch this over again and I'm a hunter. The mana tick jump thing should be great for getting distance...

[@CrazyRIQ]

Great video! What about that rogue deep dive!

[@Pytliczello]

Do you use Starfire in PvP or cast time is just simply too long?

[@radiknarang9337]

This is awesome waiting for a rogue deep dive with Payo !!!

[@13deadace1]

Great commentray soder and tipsout!!

[@2339091q]

Sodapoppin knows the game so well!!!

[@nawothnig]

Hey tips! plsss more PVP deep dives! mage would be awesome!

[@lusimmons4982]

"you're in bear form, stunlocked the whole time. Lol.

[@IamTheRealCmen]

Next you’re going to tell me Chip Chipperson is Jim Norton

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

@@freddymeisner tss, double guns, go to break e-rock

[@freddymeisner]

Hamsterwheel one of the all time best bits

[@jcbsalexyahoo]

fuk ya

[@jcbsalexyahoo]

@NizzyNizerson tss old queen i id listen to new queen but freddy mercury died...fuk ya

[@billykid8013]

Awesome was waiting for it :D im not playing druid but it was my old Main since tbc and i was wondering how it looks like in classic, i even might lvl up druid alt after it xd Cannot wait for pvp rogue(my classic main), shadowpriest and warlock :D

[@spencersalow2358]

❤️

[@stephengregg5031]

Is it worth using the first spec (wPVP) to level with? or just feral and swap?

[@Crazyjedi2]

Forgot talking about Druid vs pally

[@bugga622]

Please come back for classic fresh tips… I miss you

[@jirayazz]

Please do it again with phase 5 gear !

[@gripo2702]

One of the best PVP deep dives for druid ive ever stumbled upon. Keep up the great work mate! Also I was wondering when are you gonna do a deep dive MAGE?

[@morkanz6998]

holy shite that drinking while going travel form lol

[@Epicdps]

Holy fuck YESS. This was so great, love this nerdy shit. I was surprised, though, that Soda wasn't using any mouseover(!) or [@self] macros

[@vaju79]

great video

[@kekinho44]

Click around the video length and try getting to one moment were Tips is talking. Still haven't been able.

[@J8D8]

I play same build but I take 3 imp entangled root. So important vs hunters/rogues/warriors ...

[@Kevin-uj4uu]

19/11/21 is nerfed on classic because feral charge is very hard to use reliably as a quick interrupt because of a large delay before your allowed to use it. even with enrage macro it can be almost instant or still be very delayed. tobad because that was the most skilled druid spec

[@jarlfisk]

So the spec he talks about without the charge is bis ?

[@7xXSE7ENXx7]

11:23 stamping for myself

[@tomwheeler6144]

Why would you not have points into feline swiftness? Is it because swiftmend/natures grasp > the bonus speed carrying the flag?

[@Extrinsicfactor]

he didn't mention freezing bands...is that a thing for FC?

[@yongefy]

More pvp deep dives please,

[@PaperTravis]

so does anyone know if soda has a new secret twitch now that hes using skippy for wow?

[@tritesy]

im totally only puttin 2 point in imp rejuv and getting moonkin form for kicks

[@imnotagamer22]

KZbin With Vince I’m an experienced boomy, but as of that you’ll have a lot of problems with mana and you will be pretty squishy

[@livinghealthywithfredrikli2759]

can we have a Goldfarm Deepdive also?

[@reboLOL]

Can you add the link to the itemization pls?

[@unpoppedkiwi8236]

Please do one for warlock!

[@yoitsme1999]

CLEAR COMS!!!

[@seth1665]

noone goes feral

[@TheJayNae1]

F for my feral boyz!

[@ChocolateVideoss]

Wheres part 2?

[@robertAnthonyColon]

Eating and drinking in duels is dis honorable as fuck.

[@CrookedRosePOD]

Is there a good cat PVP spec?

[@wakub5569]

luck№192 с возвращением !

[@heizellyellow3587]

didnt know that paladin was deleted from the game

[@lancer1829]

Could anyone actually see or have a link to the macros?

[@saborivaille1258]

I have a level 12 Druid

[@sqwippysquishy5287]

you missed druid vs pally duel breakdown. i have the hardest time with pallys :(

[@giggitygoo21]

pallys are pretty simple. use ALOT of bear form. it's the only way you will outlast them.

[@kevindorsi1753]

Force the bubble Stack 5 combo points and go bear Chip away to about 40% Release 5 point rip with a rake, moon fire and insect swarm Go back to bear to get ready to interrupt their heal

[@sqwippysquishy5287]

fidjibajs1 yeah that’s what I assume, if it’s a geared pally I don’t even try, and pallys literally can’t do anything to kill a druid so I just run away.

[@sqwippysquishy5287]

Kevin Dorsi I’ll try this, but still I think a geared good pally wouldn’t even need to bubble if he played smart. He wouldn’t wanna waste it on a druid

[@kevindorsi1753]

@@sqwippysquishy5287 trust me paladins can be killed it just takes an hour or two lol... Most important thing to remember is bleeds and spells arent affected by armor but yeah i typically just dont fight paladins

[@R0bbieRobert]

1:45:13 for macros

[@Harvey2Tall]

Can u still do some raiding in this spec?

[@dragenmaster5385]

def, cuz of moonglow

[@kumuqua]

plz get advertise for Spreist deep dive

[@monplatz]

STORMX???

[@lusimmons4982]

Sorry guys. I need "HoR.... It's for druid v druid duels...." Lol.

[@bombolo74]

men he is smart

[@thebestbrobeans]

The hand gestures.... that is all

[@iesdise]

Please, *PLEASE* make the next one about priest and you know that only Hydra would fit the spot... ;D

[@McPeror]

He plays BFA.

[@alteredfaith232]

Seems like a missed opportunity to get some insight from StormX

[@rusty9167]

Yea sodapoppin is good, but stormx is hands down the best druid.

[@christofferring5805]

@@rusty9167 hes really not the best druid fc lol

[@rusty9167]

@@christofferring5805 who is then? Im allways tring to watch and get better

[@huhdoufas1570]

Skogs is the best FC Druid by far he is EU

[@vaju79]

SL ban makes no sense. Why not ban other classes abilitys then? wtf...

[@seanhaviland3448]

Because SL is in a league of its' own.

[@zimy7522]

@@seanhaviland3448 just like Prep and cold snap?, gl not dying in a rogue stun lock without SL.

[@viggogyllentryffel3514]

@@zimy7522 have you actually seen the results of the qualifiers? Cdl.gg go check it out and you'd understand why SL got banned. Rogues got nerfed post world of roguecraft.

[@viggogyllentryffel3514]

@@robertmills3462 yeah well dr IS in the game. So there you go. But hey you are probably right still. Dueltourney management is incompetent banning SL. Every big tourney on the privateserver scene was obviously also stupid to ban SL too right? Snutz and Nazgul with 1 and 2 losses resp. out of like 40 matches must be crying foul right now. Fk outta here...

[@viggogyllentryffel3514]

@@robertmills3462 Finals cdl is snutz vs nazgul and thats even WITHOUT sl. But your're right still my friend. Rogues are overpowered. I will go back to my 1500 hero rating now.

[@biohoof537]

assuming you're turren

[@Ladosligese]

was expecting a feral druid guide here haha

[@basehead617]

that moonfire dot thing sounds like a bug?

[@shamrock5133]

its not a bug because you hit them with a max rank moonfire for the dot, the lower rank spell is not going to overwrite a higher rank spell, so you use rank 9 for the initial damage.

[@Tweakerbythespeaker]

Too bad priest & lock are the hardest matchups as a druid and this spec is bad for both of them, so IDK if i agree with a "making your easy matchups easier" philosophy.

[@alessandrosina48]

generally in competitive games the best strat is to have very polarized matchups (70-30 either in your favor or against you). In wow I think warlocks and spriests are pretty broken in 1vs1 so it's no use trying to sacrifice win % in order to get a 40-60 matchup to 45-55

[@Tweakerbythespeaker]

@@alessandrosina48 Except you don't sacrifice win % by going HOTW/NS for example, it makes warlocks & priests easier, rogues are slightly easier, while the other matchups are all basically free-wins anyways when played correctly.

[@shamrock5133]

priests are pretty easy to fight as a druid, their spells are very mana inefficient while a druids spells are. Priests likely go oom before a druid.

[@Tweakerbythespeaker]

@@shamrock5133 Incorrect... they can dispel both your hots & dots. If they are remotely intelligent with their mana efficiency you won't be able to hurt them without spending a lot of mana, at which point they will win the mana war. They also have wands so they can pressure you while regaining mana, where as if you run up and melee them you open yourself up to being feared, allowing them to drink. It's pretty impossible vs a good priest. You have to downrank hots / dots and hope they don't notice to make them run OOM.

[@shamrock5133]

@@Tweakerbythespeaker if they dispel then they are using extra mana and not doing damage to you. Their dispels cost more mana than your hots and dots and you can easily use r1 spells to bait a dispel. They can only fear you once every 30 sec and you can save trinket for this, run in to melee when they dont have enough mana fear or to bubble if fear is on cd. You win the long game unless you eat mana burns.

[@Coliteral]

A2E (yesmaster) is surely the best flag runner NA :>

[@seanhaviland3448]

He's good, I don't think the best.

[@thomasp6208]

Rogue rogue rogue :D

[@Drazon1]

Tips...Where is the mage deep dive?!

[@tonyvandenhoek2048]

Tips is a warrior main...there will never be a mage deep dive.

[@Drazon1]

@@tonyvandenhoek2048 Yeah make sense since he made a deep dive for every class except mage^^

[@psy__guy__9884]

They're too broken and easy to need a dive

[@Drazon1]

@@psy__guy__9884 lmao

[@MrStopitclown]

I play feral 14-32-5 with pvp trinket and pots. I zerg everyone other than rouges and wars. The gloves that soda said are trash get me the opener on rogues every time. max range after pounce for rogues and wars...dots do the rest. you need good macros for power shifting with wolfs head helm. I guess feral is the final frontier! GL!

[@jessyember7384]

Warlock and spriest are the best 1v1 classes.

[@danmurphy1994]

look sodapoppin, 35:35, here you say that feral is a joke and can't be applied in pvp.. You're really the last person I would have expected to hear this from as true as it may be. People view you as the best druid, this is my first time viewing your content and I'm ngl I'm surprised you abandoned feral like that.. I'm by no means the best warrior but I am very good at playing the class in pvp and when warriors sucked I never stopped playing Arms warriors, and eventually I beat Original (the r1 rogue streamer back in 4.3.. lost to me murphyxx kel'thuzud 4/5 duels) in several duels while he streamed it to his viewerbase. I didn't believe in having people carry me because i played a less capable class/spec, so the highest rating i think i got was 2390 before we got sniped and taken out.. anyway, that was legit hard as fuck and i wasn't even close to bis, I just loved the class/spec wanted to commit to it.. in pvp you can make just about anything work.. may have to take more hits on the chin but hopefully your ego isn't attached to how many deaths you have in WSG, EVENTUALLY you will absorb enough info and become experienced enough to play in a way so advanced that others won't be able to comprehend what you're doing even if they watch your stream to prepare to face you type deal. I get that feral isn't great, but you're fuckin sodapoppin bro, you can figure it out

[@christianpetersen7181]

On twitch client you can get AutoDismount, it does what most of he's macros do :) Btw, great videos Tips, keep them coming! :P

[@seanhaviland3448]

This is all from the perspective of HOTW and not DEEP FERAL. Deep feral is overall a weaker spec but better in some situations (especially if you have Rune of metamorphosis).

[@shamrock5133]

feral is the weakest druid spec, you will not have the mana to shift out and heal multiple times and you will also get kited and powershift yourself oom.

[@seanhaviland3448]

@@shamrock5133 at this stage of the game yes. On servers like Henhouse with equal gear no.

[@shamrock5133]

@@seanhaviland3448 in a pvp perspective this is true, you will get kited till you run oom and dont have mana to heal yourself.

[@seanhaviland3448]

@@shamrock5133 I have dueled hundreds of good players on henhouse. I have dueled sodapoppin on henhouse. You don't "oom" yourself with things like rune of metamorphosis and enough damage. I have played feral since 2006.

[@shamrock5133]

@@seanhaviland3448 yeah and you probably lost hundreds of duels too. Feral is a trash spec you will get kited to death by anyone with a brain and you get wrecked by melee classes. Enjoy that 3-4k mana pool.The only damage you deal is against clothies and rune of meta isnt going to help you that much in pvp, they'll likely cc you until the duration runs out and you just wasted a valuable trinket slot.

[@Pyr0Amos]

heh AFK AV, it really is classic

[@Joe-dw3qj]

“I don’t really know anyone that’s used the spec” uhhhh stormx has used that for YEARSSSSSSS (speaking about deep balance)

[@kindredlebel9175]

Ugh. Beat Soda pop at every blizzard event and people still hit him up instead. His personality is subjectively dry. Mine is just as dry!

[@michaelangio]

Still waiting on a mage pve deep dive

[@danielbautista9634]

Feral is garbage in pvp? Fatcow says otherwise!!!

[@vonguruuu9905]

Why do u unleash the secrets of drood? now all feral knobs is going to know the class

[@BlueStarPilot]

sodapoppin needs to rank up his language

[@EncoHEHE]

How come a good player goes of playing with a trash player? hmm hmm

[@kilokalypso3701]

Inv DannyGaminGnC to CDL EU!!!!

[@clearancejohn]

boom first

[@imnotagamer22]

False, I’ve beaten many “moon glow” specd druids as a boomy

[@ivenousername]

Deep Dive with popular retail streamer? HAHAHAHA