Classic WoW: Duo Leveling Guide (Best Class Combinations, Strategy, Tips & Tricks)

[@kaminatorXD]

Im not even gonna try to level fast when classic comes out. Im gonna sit down and ENJOY EVERY SINGLE HIT ON EVERY MOB ever and just enjoy my time with classic. Even if it takes double my time, I will purely play for the enjoyment.

[@JohRiGa]

Not to mention every single miss :)

[@fredrikwessmen7652]

ZHEVRA HOVES

[@9dodoso832a]

Shit Mong

[@james2ts439]

Well said, and I CONCUR!!!

[@sbonel3224]

Enjoy getting bored @ lvl 30. Rerolling a couple of times and then quitting, while also whining that the game was so bad back then and rose tinted glasses etc.

[@Verlasian]

> be a rogue > cry alone in stealth

[@ArkOvu]

*sniff* Shut up :(

[@hagenisse]

Get a druid buddy

[@t3chn0dr0n3]

It's okay though, because that's kind of the playstyle of rogues anyway, so you shouldn't really feel bad about it but embrace it instead.

[@CaptmagiKono]

Double Rogue, assassin squad

[@claremyssterium4061]

Rogue\Rogue is awesome along with Druid/Rogue.

[@draphking]

Wow when you play with other people in a multiplayer game, the experience is better. This is revolutionary!

[@tbuffi3790]

what a concept....play with other people.... wow

[@Texas240]

Well, to be fair, starting with flying mounts, then summon stones, then cross realms, then rando-commando LFG, Bliz has steadily been working to sabatoge the multi player experience.

[@matthommel3546]

Haha you said wow

[@catclaws1847]

Lfm sfk need healer 30 mins later lfm sfk lf 2 dps and tank good luck

[@Strrroke]

Inconceivable!

[@ummthatminecraftguy]

"You can duel and sheep eachother to heal." This just blew my mind.

[@cyboinc3583]

200 iq

[@timo6762]

I have used polymorph to heal opposite faction to avoid PVP and warrior friends, but never double polymorphs :O Does it restore mana as well im not sure ?

[@locky2127]

@@timo6762 Only hp

[@Sagatta32]

that's a good advice. mages are just so op - now compatible with friggin warrs as duo.

[@r0e404]

What the hell

[@JarLoz]

In my experience, going for a warrior + healer combo is a very good package, my personal favorite being Arms Warrior + Holy Paladin. You might not be as quick to kill mobs in the early game as, say, dual mage, but one thing to consider is the enormous amount of group content in Classic, especially instances. If you already have a tank and a healer, then getting a group together for a dungeon is super easy. You can grab pretty much three random people capable of doing damage and you're set. Compare this to trying to get a group going as two hunters, good luck with that. A thing to remember, is that instances and tradeskills are pretty much the only source of decent gear in Classic, and crafting tends to require tons and tons of grinding and/or to keep up with your level. Instances are also a decent way to get XP and money from trash loot, and in some cases, skinning and mining. Also, once you get to 60, instances and PVP are pretty much all there is to do, so the benefits of easy grouping carry over there too. As for PVP, well, warriors with their high HP and armor, combined with tons of burst potential are incredibly strong already, and having a pocket healer amplifies this effect. If the healer happens to be an unkillable paladin on top of that, well, expect to whoop ass in Warsong Gulch till the cows come home.

[@kanor13]

What about Rogue/Rogue? It seems like being able to sneak through mobs together and trade threat to constantly backstab would be really strong. Plus the flavor of two rogues ganking every mob around the world sounds tight.

[@Impius5453]

1 dagger spec 1 sword spec reason dagger will hold threat sword will no have issues with dodge parry

[@jonathanmorris8197]

did this with my brother on a private server. the mob spinning back and forth off backstabs was funny

[@DaddyGato_Palavering]

Did this in BC on a pvp server . One of the best lvl experiences i have ever had.

[@Nerfmagnet]

My brother and I did this back in actual Vanilla. We were able to 2man Scarlet dungeons at level because of the saps, evasions, vanishes. He was combat, I was sub. It took forever, but we were able to do it.

[@devilmikey00]

You could even build the rogues to have the front stabbing spec since you could backstab the whole encounter with aggro trading.

[@danielskrivan6921]

The way I see it, you can take any duo and it's going to be effective. It might not be the fastest, but it will result in a whole lot less deaths. Healer + DPS - Now the DPS has heals. Warriors and Rogues have sustain, Mages have a margin for error, Warlocks get a massive mana battery, and Hunters...uh...well the healer can go DPS. Tank + DPS - If you have a Warrior, Druid, or Paladin (or even a tankier Shaman or Drain Lock, or a Hunter Pet or Voidwalker) then your other DPS can attack from behind (more DPS for melee) or without getting attacked (more DPS for ranged). It's better for the tank, because their low kill speed is negated by having a second person. DPS + DPS - The third option is two have two people focus on dealing damage. At this point it doesn't matter what class they are. They could have the ability to tank or heal...or not. Even if you just focus on damage, now you'll have much faster kill times, because the mob can only attack one of you at a time. Tank + Healer - The fourth option is to level in dungeons with this already figured out. Any of these should be an improvement over leveling solo, assuming your partner isn't a dunderhead. It might possibly be a little slower, but it will be a lot easier for anyone.

[@SirMoonKinGaming]

Less repair costs :)

[@thatsneakyneenja2595]

Solo leveling will always be faster but these are nice alternatives if your goal ISNT leveling as fast as possible.

[@Pytliczello]

@@thatsneakyneenja2595 i don't even understand why people want to rush through leveling. If i have to choose between leveling solo or with buddy I always choose with buddy even if it would be 3-5 times slower

[@thatsneakyneenja2595]

Well you got people that want to monopolize certain market's like being the only guy that sells flasks for the first month of the game and you got people who want to get straight to the raiding and pvp parts of the game so they can attempt to be the first guild on the server that beat naxx to enlarge their ego and probably about a hundred different reasons. Me personally I have leveled solo since I started in vanilla I think playing through with other people would be a nice change though I would probably want to be horde because I have pretty much exclusively played alliance.

[@devilmikey00]

@@thatsneakyneenja2595 Also hunters can start grinding out MARA/DM to solo grind enchanting mats/gold.

[@MasterLagoz]

Druids are so selfish. Can't they let others ride them while in travel form? So ruud.

[@CaptmagiKono]

Could just make it 10% reduction from the 40%.

[@bellerophon6897]

You'll need to be gnome or dwarf to ride them

[@lolosh99]

I would love to ride Druids 🌚

[@thatsneakyneenja2595]

That would be a pretty neat change and they could do it for sure but do we really want the forums to be flooded by the two groups of asshats that wont stop arguing about classic even more than it already is?

[@olusegunobasanjo9666]

Travel form in vanilla is a cheetah not a stag like on retail. I don't think an adult can ride a cheetah.

[@kargozgaming]

Happy Holidays guys, this week I'll be starting my Class Guides for end game PvE content. Here is a link to the Duo Leveling Guide if it is helpful: docs.google.com/presentation/d/1QGyx7CU68wIDTZm_AZEwofJ2r5qfX9StyLIBUjKfMOs/edit?usp=sharing

[@chaylith6781]

I don't know why I'm watching this, I don't have friends. Nostalgia hits me hard.

[@dwarfgod163]

Chaylith - me neither

Make a friend ingame! :)

[@Permuh]

Nostalgia of having a friend or wow? :p

[@cyboinc3583]

me and 5 of my friends managed to all get holidays for the release of classic .. we are going to do a lan party with 3x2 groups and this guide really helped me out .. thanks for all this informative stuff kargoz.. hyped AF

[@phyxes6921]

And you stared at the que on your holidays in 3x2 groups. Sad

[@marten9334]

I have only levelled to lvl 46 on a private server,thats the most far ive reached and i levelled that as a duo with a good friend of mine. I think it was the most fun time levelling ive had! I was prot pally and he was combat rogue. When he got blade flurry we started to clear aoe mobs so fast. Also gankers got usually fucked and we got my friend the mount right at lvl 40. I think actually support/tank paladin and frost mage could be one of the best comps, which we will hopefully try on classic release.

[@Grasshoppa65]

My wife and I started a gnome Warlock/Mage combo back in Vanilla. Ah....memories of little Hellter and Skellter. We also started a Warrior/Priest combo. This one had a synergy that no other duo could match.

[@FlubbersQuid]

You forgot to mention the biggest issue with duo leveling with a Shaman. If the shaman wants his class quests done for totems it take AGES!

[@Andreas_Mann]

That's why you aim for the totems as secondary quest objectives. They are not mandatory. IRC Call of Water takes the longest and you don't need it at all for leveling.

[@chromatic91]

I've attemped duel leveling a thousand times, it does not work well for me. You either have a real life that prevents you to effectively finding a window that works for TWO people. Or, the game is so fun, that you can't help yourself but to play anyway, and you will feel guilty because you're not the same level anymore etc xD Or, you try to make a second character to play when you can't play with the other person, but it ends up being way to boring because you'd rather level your other character xD

[@Brisingrr_]

THIS ^

[@phraksis]

You forgot Paladin/Shaman. It's actually tier 0!

[@Shrez4Games]

Not with Stormstrike WF ftw!

[@Fulgrim_The_Phoenician]

@@Shrez4Games Big grind until lvl 40 x)

[@Cozy90X]

Hmmm I wonder how well it would do.

[@jesperdenbraven1995]

People actally fall for this

[@doopness785]

r/wooosh

[@Zazu1337]

Healing by sheeping each other in a duel, my brain just exploded.

[@michaellouwerse]

Hahah thats spot on!! 12:25 My brother is Warlock and i'm a Priest... we've lvled all the way to 70 together when we started in TBC. Great crack!! ''walking around like potatoes together'' +1 Looking forward to do it all over again in Vanilla

[@davidnero4604]

I feel like the effective way of using duo/group lvling is when u get mayor benefits from doing it. An example would be Sham/War when u have WW Axe an WF totem, u'll be crushing all the mobs at light speed whilst never stopping. i.e. do it when both players benefit from it.

[@Y0UM4DBR0]

Its some awesome luck that I came across this video (and channel). My best friends i've known since we were 8, he started playing WoW and got me into it and let me play his account until BC when i got my own account. He played a rogue and raided. i played a hunter and pvped. But its going to be the first time him and i are ever going to go through the authentic Classic WoW experience side by side. We have been talking about everything and what we're going to do and which professions we are going to have and what goals we are going to set. We decided on a warrior/priest combo. but, i think that im going to show him this video and see what he thinks of that warlock/pally combo.

[@blazintx]

kargoz is the hero we need but probably don't deserve.

[@kargozgaming]

thank you brotha hope all is well with u man happy holidays

[@blazintx]

all is well thank you bud. super busy with work. happy holidays to you as well. great video as usual. nice use of the word "plethora" :)

[@Regunes]

How about this one Classic is the game blizzard need, but not deserve?

[@Buskyb]

Naah no hero he colaborated with alex mr.toxic so no hero status

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

This brings so much variety into the game by illustrating how socialization can translate to efficiency. Also, it may increase the variety in server class composition. All good stuff!

[@_Leouch]

I wonder which game is missing that

[@lanceamsen]

dude stfu

[@Myname-jy9pb]

Ive had good experiences going shadow priest/warlock. The dual fears and ability to heal in a pinch, with the added damage of shadow weaving is insane. I was able to group with a warlock reliably from 35-60. We wrecked anyone we came into contact with, including 60s while we were mid 50s. For mobs, we could easily aoe grind down camps and leveled very fast together.

[@bobthesnitch]

This makes me wish i had a friend :\

[@Raptormeatx]

Brice Birch I'm looking for a friend

[@michaelmahoney5012]

I'm building a computer right now to get back into games, specifically classic... I'll squad up with you

[@bobthesnitch]

@@Raptormeatx let's play some wow

[@bobthesnitch]

@@michaelmahoney5012 alliance or horde?

[@MrMcSnuffyFluffy]

Awwww. People are becoming friends.

[@MrOrmanley]

What about warlock/hunter? +different gear/low gear dependency +hunter with carrion bird aoe tanks multiple mobs which are multi shot/multi dotted/aoed down + in emergencies hunter taunt shots stuff off warlock and kites it away => feign death + strong pvp capabilities (viper sting/fear/flare/concussive shot) + feign death/soulstone combo when wipe occurs + different speeds lvl 20-40, if not both have mounts @40, aspect of pack => same speed + decent cc with trap/scare beast/scatter/concussive/fear/seduce/banish

[@Ejacula]

That's actually what me n my buddy are doin at classic release

[@Imkaje]

I feel as though druid/priest deserved an honorable mention. A skilled druid will out damage a warrior leveling every time unless he has a high level toon feeding weapons down to him every few levels, but even that would take time that a druid wouldn't need. Plus druid can engage and front shred ripping through single target, or bear charge(with furor) and swipe swipe swipe maul. Bears have less avoidance, but more mitigation so generate more rage than warriors. Example: a parry'd, or blocked hit produces no rage. So with a dedicated healer, and their rage dump being an aoe, druids tear through groups.

[@williamfall6945]

11:15 Watching this after Classic is actually released, and hearing him say double mages got "weak group forming potential"... LFM SPELLCLEAVE GOGOGOGO

[@Slater6977]

just started my first play thru with my wife, playing Priest - Druid, and we are loving it. I wouldnt have changed anything.

[@MW-cx3sb]

Dual levelling is great if you both push yourselves. The biggest benefit is being able to pull packs without the gy run. Warrior and healer is the holy duo. I lvl'd as a hunter and was lvlling most of the way to 60 with a druid. We were steam rolling through shit

[@akoww1000]

1:28 Just started watching, so not sure of all the duo matchups in this video. Just going to say, Hunter and Warlock, go great together leveling. I ran into a warlock at level 11 and he was level 12. We teamed up for a quest and stayed together until level 19. We tore through everything between our pets and AOE damage. Sadly I didn't see him back online for two weeks and I was way higher in levels :(

[@LTG22]

Me and a buddy capped 60 with a warrior/priest combo and were quite effective in both pve and world pvp.

[@tafferski]

did you (or your buddy) go shadow as a priest?

[@joshuaboatwright2876]

I know this one is way lay but you had trouble seeing great potential in lock shammy. Shammy can heal lock on his taps, rank1 shock for kicks, stoneskin for damage reduction/ stone claw to pick up a mob that over pulled. Fire totems for extra damage. Healing stream for when the lock spot taps to get that last Shadowbolt off. Shammy can go 2h enh and windfury mobs on the vw, or 1h and board and act as a second pet.

[@dsatt57]

If you are going to speed level, you are missing the point imo. Paladin/Warlock is a really good combo though.

[@t3chn0dr0n3]

So, here's my thoughts on this: - Mage-Mage and Hunter-Hunter: you're more or less emphasizing on one strong point, making it even stronger, but at the cost of gear and group utility. Honestly, I wouldn't pick those. It just feels off leveling the same thing with your partner, constantly competing for gear, and then ending up in the same pot at 60. - Warlock-Priest - there are three main issues here: #1 is that one of you will have to sacrifice on that mana-on-execution talent, most likely the warlock because he can Life Tap anyway; #2 although you can find groups very quickly, you will be competing for the same gear from 1 to end-game; #3 the priest will be left feeling like a heal bot with wanding in between heals. This goes for pretty much all +Priest combos. Another very huge cons is that if the priest cannot get a mount at 40, the duo instantly breaks apart, meaning that the warlock will more or less have to donate gold to the priest so he can afford a mount. - Warlock-Druid - same healbot/morale disadvantage for the druid as for the priest above, only this time you don't share the same armor type. Also, misaligned movement speed will feel bad, believe me. The slower person will get demotivated. Druids can move fast very early in the game, while warlocks will be slugging until 40. - Warrior-Shaman - the main disadvantage here is the movement speed misalignment, making the warrior feel like a hindrance from 20 all the way until he gets his mount, as well as the competition for the same two-handers, except for that period when the warrior will be using whirlwind axe (which, in turn, will demotivate the shaman). Apart from that, however, this can be a very good combo. Maybe if the shaman is elemental, it will actually feel better. My personal favourite is Warrior-Priest. The so-called "classic" combo has only three downsides, contrary to all other combos where I can go on and on, listing things that will make you feel bad: #1 the healbot/morale problem for the priest, which gets offset by the fact that he is expected to be in this role; #2 bubble becomes a no-go, unless the warrior is about to die; #3 it will be hard for the two to pick synergising professions - the warrior will probably have to pick herb+alchemy, for example. Apart from these three issues, which are all minor, this combo has no downsides, especially after the warrior gets his full kit. I am currently levelling as Hunter-Shaman with my girlfriend. The main disadvantages of the combo (so far) are the shared armor type and the impact the pet has on the shaman's playstyle. The pet will be tanking from 10lvl on, which makes Rockbiter clunky and even annoying. Of course, you can use Flametongue, but as we know from previous videos Rockbiter is the optimal leveling choice. I'm not entirely sure, but I think it is better if the shaman is elemental here because: it will synergise better with the pet; it will eliminate gear competition; it will make the combo overall stronger and more viable for groups (the shaman will just heal). Both classes get high movement speed early on, both classes have sustain, but the shaman will also offer resurrection.

[@jdawgdabeast]

when duo'ing, do you both do your starter zones and meet up later or does one of you come to the other and start together from scratch? (if different races)

[@Mackathne]

7:40

[@rostyloco1]

wait wait wait wait... warlock paladin..... what happens if judgement seal of justice on the target and warlock fears it? does it a ) stay feared in place b) ignore fear c) runs away anyways ?

[@Maybenice86]

I actually got my girl to be exited for classic release (she never played wow before just some 1-5 runs on private servers :D) Im just goin to follow her around whilst shes sitting on warrior and enjoy the game trough her. Kinda hyped to see how shes goin to enjoy the game as a first timer. Im running any healing capable class and really let her decide at which paste we are goin to play. Im goin to enjoy the slow paste, do whatever comes to mind. Enjoy the ride not the finishline

[@Texas240]

If you want her to have fun on warrior, I recommend fury spec and that you run a healer. Warrior is extremely down time heavy with eating or bandaging after nearly every pull and a un unhealthy healing potion addiction. Arms is very slow in leveling because you don't have rage between pulls and dps is lower than fury. But, Arms is better if you level on a pvp server and she wants to pvp. Most who played arms warriors at 60 leveled as fury. Either way, if you want her to have fun, you don't want her eating or bandaging after each pull. If you play a dps with her, you'll either pull aggro (unless she's leveling as prot, which will be terribly unfun) or kill stuff faster than her making her feel ineffective.

[@Maybenice86]

@@Texas240 thanks for the advices. I´ve leveled a warrior 1-60 on each specc (yup even as prot once) Anyways, arms is actually overall better in leveling than fury for 2 simple reasons (either way i let her play what she likes :D) kite with bleeds and overpower, plus arms actually can pvp during leveling. Will see what shes goin to choose, as stated before im goin any healing capable class, paladin when allie or shaman when horde most likely :)

[@Texas240]

@@Maybenice86 - Sounds like you've got it handled! I'm mentally thinking about how I might make it fun for my girl to give it a try, so it was on the brain. I hope you guys enjoy!

[@Ragazar]

We need a 5 years later update on how it went 😂

[@Maybenice86]

@@Ragazar She never got higher than level 20. Somehow she stressed too much of holding me back. However i still go strong in era and am hyped for the fresh next week. :;D

[@ZakPrestor]

how about druid + rogue and druid + druid? pros: + huge damage output + awesome CC + have heals + stealth + druid can tank + awesome gankparty (esp. with track humanoids) + can avoid ganks as well cons: - may compete for loot - may have some downtimes, especially before lvl 40 - sheer farm speed may be lower than other t1 combos

[@ZakPrestor]

@D G the main idea is that 2 classes with stealth can skip packs and do elite quests easily.

[@atorrance]

Kargoz, can you expand on the downsides of Hunter/Druid, Lock/Druid if the Druid went feral and could get shreds off to burst down targets? Similarly, what about Rogue/Rogue so they can stealth past mobs and stand opposite and use back and forth backstabs (or one opens with stun and the other with damage)

[@falandrion2870]

Wouldn't Druid/Rogue still make more sense than Rogue/Rogue? It shares the advantages but offers more survivability, heal and buffs/debuffs while having less of a gear overlap.

[@atorrance]

Falandrion Good point, besides the movement speed differential. Would like Kargoz’s input on this duo too. I’m not suggesting they should be tier 2 or 1, but curious on his opinion or if he tested these at all.

[@Minastir1]

Stealthing past mobs outside dungeons is a waste of XP especially when you are 2.

[@Ozhar1]

Rogue does well with Hunter or Druid imo. You share an armor type but the rogue will almost always go for Herbalism/Alchemy and druids want Skinning/Leatherworking so you can provide for each other in those aspects. ALSO being able to skip a bunch of areas with stealth is just too fun not to mention. There are multiple dungeons where being able to stealth past the fodder and fight the big boy is lucrative for gold farming. Tier 2 at best but very fun.

[@ScaredHippojr]

Duo Rogue has the weirdest dynamic but its hella fun with an honour among thieves flavour going on

[@viktorbardos7293]

Since I always played a rogue as a main I was starting to really think about duo rogue. And an idea that came to my mind was double ambush rogues. 5/5 Opp, 5/5 Camouflage, 3/3 Imp Ambush and 2/2 Remorseless . With even higher crit later down the road double ambush crits (from both rogues) should instant kill most low armored mobs. Not sure if that could technically propel the kill per minute up by a lot. Any thoughts? I guess it still pails against strong AoE farm.

[@BuckRodgers3]

@@viktorbardos7293 I could see that being very fun and with a very high skill cap what with both of you having a truckload of cooldowns and abilities to deal with almost any situation but like you said it would be mainly single target, learning it would be quite time consuming, and at 60 pure dps has issues with getting groups unless you are the leader type or have keys.

[@CaptmagiKono]

One opens and the other pick pockets, mad money for both.

[@EffToyz]

I see big potential in rogue/druid. Sneaking a lot, a lot of CC, eventual heals, while druid tanks under hots rogue just backstabbing the shit out of mobs.

[@__-fi6xg]

Stuns forever. Classic didn't have dimishing right?

[@nordicgaming2572]

Simple yet detailed. I can see this channel blowing up once classic is released. Keep up the good work dude!

[@Biggiejohn]

Forgot mage/pally as a T1. Once pally gets either conscecrate or sanctuary it outpaces anything else besides mage/mage

[@highrhino]

I was thinking a pally with conscecrate and a mage sounded like a good combo for aoe leveling, and wisdom for mage or int for pally means more spells before drinking

[@aaronpetralba7444]

Yep. Paladins are such good tanks early and mid game.

[@cythonnaiilo7956]

I can say Pally/Mage offers a Lot of pros, yiur dishing out a lot of damage with the mage and you got the blessing of protection along with arcane Explosion. ofc there is the paladin stunn too and the aggro reduce from arcane and blessing of Salvation so you can have a bomb fest if the pally goes Def and gathers heal gear. creating water and having portals adds so much utility and you have an awesome Dungeon group combination with heal, or tank and dps with sheep!

[@cythonnaiilo7956]

@@mihalyspenger7617 this is because the incoming damage drastically increases with level 50+ imperial set for pally and warrior adds a lot of really needed hp and armor to the tank gear (and looks awesome) by level 50 the mage has a lot of kiting potential too if he goes for frost and pally can concentrate on tanking elites (though elite mobs on classic mostly need a tank to have a healer with them) if thes are nit tankable pally can boprotection the mage when things get ugly and bubble himself for escape or ae bombing. the utility of that combination almost never ends :)

[@yani9o]

Another nice combo is Hunter-Paladin: judgement of wisdom, pet as tank, pala heals and hunter is pewpewing. No downtime at all and you can do pretty much anything (did that arathi highlands lvl40 elite quest as around level 35 hunter and pala where you had to kill 3 elite mobs in the keep - best memory of classic wow i have)

[@Niphern]

Y sounds good. Few mention it

[@MrGlennJohnsen]

What about Paladin (prot) and Druid (balance) Basically pull tons of mobs and let thorns and retribution aura do it's work. You also have free access to dungeons. Don't share gear at all. wipe prevention. maybe low single target damage but other than that this duo should be able to safely aoe grind a lot.

[@quetz6335]

2 frost mages aoe grind best duo leveling right there.

[@MrGlennJohnsen]

@@quetz6335 Yes but they have other problems like the main video said, they share gear, don't form dungeon groups easily, no "free healing" and no wipe prevention/ressurrection. With a Prot Paladin and Balance Druid you could easily pull and group up 10 mobs and just stay alive, maybe the druid can throw down Hurricane when that is learned. The return damage (thorns, retri aura, shield spike, holy shield (or whatever it was called) , blessing of sanctuary and so on would do a lot of work.

[@stephanematis]

Pally Prot reflection tanking was indeed a thing for AoE with: The Green Tower, Enchanted Thorium Spike, Flurry Axe, Edgmaster's Handguards, Uther's Strength. Some old videos still float around with a Palladio grind leveling on murlocks just outside Theramore. I guess the Druid would add some damage and survivability before all that gear becomes available.

[@kronniichiwa9909]

Paladin and Warrior for leveling duo

[@radul476]

I can say I am very lucky on this regard. Me and my lifetime partner have been playing WoW together since WOTLK, leveling, raiding, mythic+ all of that. We are so eager to play classic together, cause we enjoy the fantasy of being a hunter and druid, together in the woods, gathering herbs, mixing potions, and also skinning beasts and making armor for the both of us... Also we are somewhat at the same skill level of play, which makes the game even more enjoyable. It will be so awesome!!!

[@evereststrength]

Wow man - I been looking forward A LOT to this one - can´t wait for Classic babe!

[@smithers4420]

6 months feels so long :(

[@evereststrength]

@@smithers4420 kargoz will keep you busy with entertainment

[@commonsensegaming1756]

Is it still 15 a month or will it be free?

[@smithers4420]

@@commonsensegaming1756 I believe the general consensus at the moment is that you will pay for a normal subscription to wow and get classic added on for free. It's not set in stone yet though.

[@KevinGWhittaker]

@@smithers4420 that's about the only way I see it working right now.

[@d3athm3tal]

I dont see why you would go prot pally in pally/warlock combo since warlock can tank dmg with pet. Seems like a big waste of dps to go for tank. I could be wrong though...

[@Phosty]

RIP to all of the Classic Pallys that will never know the love of totems.

[@brandungmedia]

I can confirm that WL/Priest is awesome to level. You can just dot everything and life tab almost infinitely due to the heals and be very fast at grinding. Also warrior and feral druid can be quick with both dps'ing having heals after fight and the druid will reg mana while in cat form - good stuff and also have some advantages in pvp due to the duids stealth and kiting abilities.

[@RobRIPDG]

"For casuals." Or people with friends 😉

[@Kakerate2]

13:55 Is there a way to make bear druid with two hunter pets as maintanks to work? Or can they just not hold agro?

[@jenniferdao-nguyen8735]

Lmao. Every time he said “move like a potato”

[@jonnyfalk2623]

What about Rogue + Ret. The rogue can stun lock the mob which doubles the damage of judgments of command for the Pala and his big swings can't be dodged/parried when the mob is stunned. The rogue gets a big damage increase with Blessing of Might and of course the Pala can heal. There shouldn't be any downtime either. Don't think this is a Tier 1 combo but I think it could be a Tier 2.

[@Ithrial420]

What about mage druid?

[@The0nlyy]

CRÌMSON BLAÐÉ in my opinion ANY combination would work well! But I think Mage/Druid would be a fun opportunity for Druid to level as balance since they’ll always have access to water. Feral / Mage is not necessarily optimal because the mage will have to drink when the Druid would not. But it would still work!

[@luke7727]

what specific talents would you recommend for the druid in the druid/warlock duo?

[@Ssaknurd]

I leveled with a friend back in vanilla he was a rogue I was a hunter and we would just dumpster anyone that came our way.

[@Havre_Chithra]

Ssaknurd hahahaha. Yea. That is a nightmare to get ganked by.

[@manimal9871]

Yeah I can confirm Hunter/Rogue is very very hard to beat. Mage/Hunter is even worse, it is ridiculously op 😂 you can kite/cc the enemy forever and then burst a target down in a single global when you both plan your nukes....melle can’t even touch you once it’s brutal.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

I came back to Vanilla during MoP and I leveled with a few friends on a private blizzlike server. Looking at it through more mature eyes It surprised me how the leveling experience was actually designed for group play and there are no shortage of lucrative "elite" quests. Not to mention how much less dying you will do, and honestly you can tag and pull so much more than you can solo because of meshing cooldowns and abilities. I find it hard to believe that two skilled players would level slower than one skilled player even with collect quests being a bottleneck. :)

[@jamesadams814]

"Maybe you don't have the time to be on 18 hours a day...". 🤣

[@kaminek1230]

Good ol days :)

[@deaconsyxx322]

Just maybe 😂😂

[@sunsh4de]

FYI - After months of testing, the best duo for fun is Warlock and Paladin. Paly takes Mining and Engineering, Lock takes taloring and enchanting, paly gives all unusable greens to lock, paly heals etc, lock dps, has bubble, soul stones it's amazing! Both get their mounts etc!

[@ayalabaleeiro8398]

The rogues using stealth in the whole guide.

[@jonahwashburn9573]

I think warrior + paladin moves up to S tier if the paladin is holy, because it eliminates the gear overlap issue. Paladins easily have the most powerful single-target healing in the entire game, and even with cloth gear are generally more durable than priests, and that coupled with the buffs and blessings would make this combo a winner

[@jshtng78]

People going into Classic with the kinds of strategies that Vanilla players took years to figure out will utterly destroy the wonder and nostalgia that caused players to demand Classic in the first place.

[@eduardoribeiroucv9630]

ikr

[@squattingheads]

ill go RP server and report absolutely anyone who dares to break the rules. this will hopefully at least save that one world from those mood killers

[@damianmaddox4334]

Us private server guys don't care. Who do you think is going to roll through fastest??? We are

[@chilwil07]

So what you’re saying is vanilla is bad if you’re not a noob

[@DuckNatic]

Try playing the game for the adventure and social aspect. You might be happily surprised.

[@Kurnurs]

I would say warrior/paladin is potentially a better combo than warrior/priest. I mean they share gear and weapons but priests don't add damage buffs... with warrior/paladin you guys get double benefit from blessing of might and battle shout, since you both benefit from them. That combined with the fact that the main weakness of paladins for pvp leveling is being kited and warrior provides hamstring while pally can use blessing of freedom/etc on the warrior to complement their weakness. Double execute mechanics with execute/hammer is no joke too, whereas warrior/priest you gotta let the priest last hit more often so they can proc spirit tap, so you lose a lot of benefit from being able to execute mobs. Not to mention the shared weapon type is sort of negated by getting the warrior whirlwind axe, then you can funnel weapons to the paladin for the next 10 levels or so. Another factor to consider is that the paladin gets a free mount... if you are good enough buddies that means the pally can lend gold to the warrior for their mount and you can both have mounts immediately at 40 without having to waste time on the auction house/economy on a fresh server.

[@drjo8376]

Someone has been watching Asmond and Esfand huh? ;-) Also, I agree, it seemed pretty good.

[@Kurnurs]

@@drjo8376 Not really. To be honest I can't stand Asmon. He pretends to know everything about vanilla but in reality is a super mediocre player and knows far less than he thinks. Esfand is cool though and really knowledgeable, just find it hard to watch him with Asmon around all the time making my eye twitch with all his misinformation.

[@drjo8376]

@@Kurnurs You do know what "sarcasm" is right?

[@Kurnurs]

@@drjo8376 Too many people actually think he's good to know if you're being sarcastic or not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@ophon3038]

My gf and I are so hyped to level together in classic, it's gonna be a real epic journey!

[@markwhitmarsh8652]

is she hot tho?

[@chrisk1458]

Marco Polo Cons: Ugly bitch next to you, eating all your chips

[@jonofja]

Hey! Ehm, about druid/shaman combo. Have you tested druid tank and shaman ele/resto for bigger pulls? I shall say this is all theory craft, not played WoW in years. 1. The bear gets the same benefit as a warrior with building rage, swipe on CD for that sweet AOE. 2. Sweet, sweet chain lighting at 32 for the shaman. 3. The shaman will do a lot of AOE with magma totem, but especially FIRA NOVA TOTEM (improved firetotems 25/26 for fire nova every 3rd second). Problem with fire nova is that it draws aggro, but hey! we got a tank ;) When placing the fire nova (10 yard radius), do it approx 5 yards behind the bear. Move back another couple of yards. If aggro is pulled, put down stoneclaw totem (8 yard radius), replacing stoneskin. This way you don't draw aggro from the larger pull, but you save your fire nova totem. If you got the mana, rince and repeat (prior to chain lightning at 32). 4. Shaman Mindspring totem (26) while make the druid be able to hot/buff in between all pulls, since the they will take longer time (more mobs) and increased mana regen. The selfheal on the druid is important to preserve shaman mana, and utilizing the druid's mana. 5. Prio on different stats and weapons, even though you share leather for a while. Been looking at the shaman build. I think you go straight 31 ele into 19 resto, but i'm no expert. A con to this playstyle will be the shaman's mana. It will get better post 40, when we go into resto talents.

[@jonop1499]

No WF for bear/catform is a huge drawback.

[@jonofja]

@@jonop1499 Windfury doesn't buff feral in vanilla to my knowlegde. It buffs the the main hand with chance on hit, but bear/cat don't use their "hands" so to speak. They just can't proc it while in form

[@jonop1499]

Jon Ofte Jakobsen yes thats correct and exactly what I wanted to say - it‘s a huge drawback compared to rogue/shaman or warrior shaman combo

[@jonofja]

@@jonop1499 oops, sorry for that didn't catch your point, and i totally agree :) The problem is the movementspeed thing with those combinations.. what about double shaman? A bit of trouble with gear, but you get to use a lot more of your totems!

[@jonop1499]

@@jonofja douple shaman sounds at least better I guess. You can res each another all the time without 30 min cd and you can pop 8 different totems - one could go enh and the other ele or resto

[@Raskelot]

Frost mage with Holy Nova Priest at level 30+ is nice too.

[@aknaton6349]

Dude Ret pala and Feral druid is insane: Ret pala puts on Righteous Fury so the druid can go shred build, which does insane dmg especially between lvl 24-50. Druid can heal the pala between pulls and can use innervate when the pala is oom, which means 0 downtime and 0 food or drinks needed. You have 2 extremely tanky specs, so you can easily take BIG groups -> hurricane is one of the strongest aoe spells in game. Druid and pala buffs are really useful to each other since they both need a bit of everything to shine. Big thorns dmg with retri aura and thorns. You can adapt to every dungeon group. The list goes on.

[@alexslaughter7945]

What about paladin mage? That's the classes me and my brother want to play arnt sure if it's worth staying together or not

[@codylocke3038]

Alex Slaughter they have to be. Pallies have heals and buffs, mages have damage and crowd control and can make food for the two of you. Should be a really fun duo.

[@alexslaughter7945]

@@codylocke3038 that's true, we plan on trying to duo level up together, being a wrath baby I hadnt thought of the importance of buffs and food but I think your right it should work pretty well

[@maskedbandit9990]

"Best duo class combinations" solo hunter and solo lock.

[@sillysongs19]

Did this for all of vanilla :)

[@matthewzimmerman92]

With classic coming out I am going Hunter, friend is going warlock

[@NotoriusBEN1]

leatherworking shaman and an alchemist warrior were my buddy and myself. I always had a piece of gear in a slot because proper gear in slots isnt guarantee'd while leveling. and I gave him stims and mana pots. Never understood why people thought warrior alchemists were a weird combo in classic wow... warriors had no healing abilities until BC, so having health pots were a godsend. also... everyone buys pots all the time. you only ever sell a sword or chestpiece to one person once.

[@blech71]

I married my Drood heals... the Wife and I will be dual leveling as we do in all games. She is usually heals and I tank. Or like in WoW we can run dual hunters... I’ll run a tank pet and she’ll throw dps pets in and we’ll pull a bunch. For classic we can’t wait to run warrior/priest setup cause by themselves they’re kinda slow but together it’s gonna be beast. We did low level shammies oncewhere she was resto and I was slow aoe totem/shield spike. You can pull a huge amount of mobs in a dungeon this way. In black fathom deep we can ledge pull 20-30 at a time. Takes a few minutes but everything is right there for loot after. Tons of fun

[@blech71]

We met in Wrath and been together ever since. Nothing better than getting yelled at to hurry up and get on cause their ready to blow shit up right when I walk in the door from work lol

[@qwertzztrewq9056]

nerds

[@6Twisted]

Warlock has been my most fun class by far. You literally just spam dots on everything and do crazy dps and self heals. Spec into mana tap and you can use your imp for infinite mana as well. Currently playing Warrior/Shaman with a friend and it's crazy good as well. We do 5-10 mob pulls and AoE farm.

[@RyanBM]

me and my friend went rogue + shaman. i felt like the biggest mistake i made was going enhancement. elemental would have synergised so much more and made me less gear dependant. id even put resto above enhancement for duo purposes. threat reduction and mana regen becoming much more valuable to offset your buddy having to eat, feels like it also would synergise better to duo levelling

[@nostepsnek1776]

sustain is the single most important thing while leveling, damage dealt vs resources spent recovering. Enhance kills things slightly faster than resto, but resto gets IMP manatide totem which is probably the best leveling talent in the game for them. You can even wear enhance gear and 2h a staff, or use flametongue with a shield and dagger.

[@flamerollerx01]

Honestly going resto and using totems to buff the rogues damage is likely the best way to go. The shaman can do a bit of melee damage with flametongue procs, but should be saving mana for heals and totems. You're not there to dps, you're there to support the rogue. I would suspect elemental to be a rather bad combo with rogue. Warrior + shaman would work far better with enhancement with all kinds of lovely windfury procs blowing baddies up. Could be damn fun actually and though shaman might want to use the same weapons as a warrior, staves have perfectly respectable damage in classic. Not only that, but the warrior can be dual wield fury instead, leaving the two-handers to the shaman. Staves used to have the same dps as other two-handers, but that changed in TBC and of course the majority of raid drops were lower dps obviously, but we're not really discussing raids in regards to duo leveling lol.

[@nostepsnek1776]

@@flamerollerx01 Melee buffing totems are probably not worth it unless you can kill 5+ mobs within their radius, so it takes some finesse to use them, the standard flametongue dagger and searing totem/mana spring is the best, after that you throttle up or down to maximize efficiency.

[@flamerollerx01]

@@nostepsnek1776 Windfury totem, strength of earth totem, healing stream totem and maybe a searing totem, while the shaman uses flametongue weapon and pulls the mobs to the totems and the rogue opens up on them while they come to the shaman. The shaman should be pulling with rank 1 lightningbolt so as not to do much damage. You want the rogue getting threat and doing damage. Also don't use shocks except to finish something off, or slow a runner.

[@nostepsnek1776]

@@flamerollerx01 manaspring might be better depending on the cost of shaman heals but its just a small detail. Stoneskin + healing + searing + windfury + shaman pulling 2 mobs and fighting 1 is far better, strength of earth doesnt kill them fast enough to save as much hp as stoneskin comboed with healing stream saves. Also the more you pull the better stoneskin becomes.

[@PickyMcCritical]

I wonder about ele sham + mage. different armor types the whole way 1-60. mage drinks/int buff supports shaman casting more. shaman single-handedly does wipe prevention. high single-target dmg removes the need to kite. blink softens the movement gap. no real experience, just thinking...

[@manimal9871]

Spiffyriffic it would work very well actually yes 👍🏽

[@thorbeorn4295]

I really wanna duo level but I have no friend who's gonna play classic :/

[@Tybone-zq4zh]

I'll duo level with you if you never find anyone. I'm Going warrior When it comes out wbu

[@Sanoskesagara]

Very interesting topic. I wonder how playing on a fresh server would effect these setups. Off the top of my head, it makes the con of sharing gear types lessened. If you're both leveling quickly and ignoring instances, you'll be dependent on quest rewards most of the time anyway. I wonder what classes would be the best to help those hunters get to 10 asap. If a 2s team(hunter/x) with a focus on high dmg, you could skip a lot of lower levels, and find some secluded grinding spots. Also, double rogue is a fun 2s team. One could spec into sub and concentrate on cc and stun control, and the other just blows shit up.

[@sam_irl]

Lock druid or lock priest looks damn juicy.

[@nightzebra]

Also maybe make a video about the odder class duo combos. It all can be bad for a double rogue, like should be able to destroy targets and move on.

[@Humblesurfer777]

Idk why but your voice feels like your selling me something

[@thereallaminen]

Yeah I think this guy is fake or something he sounds money hungry

[@abrvalg321]

22:50 druid+shaman? windfury doesn't work with cat, does it?

[@klocka88]

If you are absolute sure you are gonna play together 100% of the time up to 60. Warrior/holy paladin is a recking crew :D Ok, gonna watch the video now

[@brucesamuelson7337]

Kargoz, I didn't read all the previous comments, so I'm sorry if you answered this... Did you try resto/feral druid... Or would you please? I think the synergy would be amazing... Group utility, fight avoidance, endless Mana, endless pulling, same quality gear, but no contest... Yes no consistent Rez, but shouldn't be needed... Same movement speed... Healer could be a Skinner, removing down time

[@Black14825]

Kargoz keep hyping us for Classic! Oooh yeah. p.s. that duo mage heal dueling with Polymorph is some next level shit m8. Amazing

[@EvTrev11]

came back to this for the anniversary realms thanks man! Love balance druid but usually cant justify it in classic. Stoked to crush it with my GF as warlock!

[@kargozgaming]

Awesome! Balance is a great pick. Happy leveling!

[@Relbl]

That lock/druid combo sounds hot... I love balance druid and it's great that with a partner they can be the tits! Seems like locks basically run this bitch though lol like they are solid on their own but with a little support they absolutely shine

[@sommerblume9671]

Relbl The tits? What?

[@Allexz]

As always extremely good video. I have to say though i don't share your doubt in dual hunters. Holy hell the combination, double pets, double slows, double stuns, double traps, double viper sting and of course double beastial wrath combined with intimidation. Me and a buddy was killing 60's at 46 and the pvp all the way up was nothing short of amazing decimation. Stings made healers completely worthless, drained their mana before they could even cast a spell and then nuked groups of 3's 4's or 5's! Amazing fun!

[@patreon4203]

this is so interesting, ur gonna get the credit u deserve

[@MrGoogle87]

Is/was the “blue” double XP already in vanilla? Maybe leveling different characters “at same time” would be efficient? I think it was x amount of days is max of 2 lvls double XP (rested bonus?) Like: double xp bonus is gone, now level the othet character

[@MK-hl4zm]

yes rested was a thing in vanilla. But since it takes like 8hours to get 5% rested (in a rested area such as inns and cities) it's not woth it doing this (imo). actually i think it will be faster to level one character, farm some gold and get the 60% mount on your alt asap

[@kvszt]

Спасибо от ру-игроков WoW :)

[@RandoomDude]

Druid duo levling is interesting but how do you get around the beggining in different starting zones, even if one runs to the other they still have to take care of class quests and Mulgore and Durotar are pretty far to make the easy

[@jerred9655]

Warrior paladin is super strong at 40+

[@BELIEVEINJESUS777]

They're way tankier, more buffs, and do good dps. If the paladin specs holy its fucking insane

[@flamerollerx01]

@@brothir Holy paladin is more efficient than holy/disc priest. It's not very well known, but it was always the case and people were just stubborn idiots thinking priest was top dog healer. Yes, priest has utility that paladin doesn't and that makes them necessary in raids, but more than two is mad overkill and inefficient. One thing people don't realize about paladins is that holy can actually be played very offensively. The damage isn't high, but they just don't spend mana on damaging the mobs. That's the warriors job in this combo. Paladin is there to heal mostly, so you stack lots of paladin gear with str, int and +spell damage (extremely easy to find at 60). All your offset pieces (rings, cloak, necklace, shield, weapon) should be caster and healer stats only. Bless yourself with wisdom and the warrior with might (or kings if you want to get it, but it's not ideal), judge crusader, then put up righteousness and melee+judgement on cooldown. Save holy shock for healing your warrior tank, or when things go south to finish off the mob. Paladin abilities scale more with spell power and some didn't use attack power AT ALL. This is why they were so shitty as dps.

[@robsanford5804]

I duo-level by myself. I always have 2 accounts open, and level 2 different classes at the same time. I do this mostly for reputation gains. I don't want to farm a reputation, then turn around and do it again with another character. If I can kill 2 birds (or 3 , if I open a 3rd account), then it saves time.I play just about any combination, but my primary combinations (obviously not during Vanilla) are Paladin/Shaman, Druid/DemonHunter, and DeathKnight/Mage. Essentially, I have a tough tank and a vicious DPS. Even today, my reasoning still stands.For Classic, I will probably do a Warrior/Shaman or Paladin/Mage or Druid/Priest.

[@Cendoria]

Rogue+druid and warrior+priest. End of list.

[@dunevenker]

I can't believe duo druid wasn't mentioned. Did you even try it? Bear form swipe+thorns and heals for days. Can literally alternate healing and aoe tanking. Can stealth your way through half the content later on and heal/tank bosses and quest mobs. Such a good combo.

[@chasecalvert9510]

That's a damn good point. Two flex players means Tank/Healer whenever it's necessary, DPS/DPS whenever it's expedient, dual stealth cheese for convenience, (extremely high) mobility matched, dual combat res for death immunity, and DPS/Heals or DPS/Tank for everything in-between. The ultimate swiss-army comp. This deserves more discussion.

[@dunevenker]

@@chasecalvert9510 Thanks, Chase. I actually plan to Main a druid this time around. I also hope to find other like minded druids and most likely rogues, to do exactly what we have mentioned.

[@timmietimmins3780]

I always feel like these miss the point. Your definition is narrow enough that it's technically correct, but... YOU DON'T NEED TO BE IN EXP RANGE to be in a group. it's perfectly fine for you and your leveling partner to split up, and as long as you are pulling seperately, there is no real downside to staying in a group with a guy, especially if you can rely on him. Sure, if you stand on each other's toes, it's bad. But why would anyone ever do that? As soon as you are willing to pull seperately and spread out far enough that you aren't fighting over mob spawns, grouping is just strict upside. As for class pairs, barring broken stuff like stacking dot classes or stacking aoe classes, I feel like armor type is the most important (so you can pass each other green world drops), and buffs are the second. I don't like warrior priest anything like as much as warrior druid. Druids are amazing for warriors, simply because warriors give the most uptime to the class that gives the strongest leveling buff in the game: thorns. Thorns is silly. Not only does it ignore armor reduction (As it's nature damage), but it's also just a lot of dps. against a single target (where thorns is worst), against a mob with attack speed 2 (which is by no means unreasonable), it's going to be 1.5 dps. Then if you factor in armor reduction of even 20%, that's equivalent to about 26 attack power, per level of thorns, per enemy mob attacking you. And it has a 10 minute duration. Against 3 mobs, it's roughly four times as good as battle shout, if battle shout lasted 10 minutes instead of 2. Oh yeah, and they also have mark of the wild, which I actually prefer to fortitude, assuming you already have a food buff. Raw health is nice, but mitigation means more, as your healing is mostly static: it's either a flat bandage amount or its' your spirit amount, or it's your food amount, or it's your healer's capability. Mitigation trumps a reserve, which can easily be accomplished just by carrying potions. I would by no means say it's as good as double warlocks (Which I have dual boxed, and yes, it's very silly), but if you take as a given that you want to level a warrior, the best buddy you could possibly have is not a priest, it's a druid.

[@nostepsnek1776]

this was wrong in almost every single way possible, a single corruption does that thorns dps at lvl 10 or so, by 20's its like an instant cast pyroblast crit you can spam (ps warlock in 20's and it hits for like 225 dmg flat). Armor type overlap is annoying but when you are grouped gear means far far less than when solo, you have twice the global cooldowns to spend. Being grouped but out of exp range... yikes what an autistic rant about grouping, he meant groups that level together, not random strangers on diff continents in the game who happen to party up and never meet, how obtuse can you be? 2 mages who share gear will still have more mana and aoe capabilities as a single mage with full greens would.

[@vuzuruges9909]

Thank you, Kargoz! I was watching your 5 hour stream video yesterday. And now you release this video! That is just awesome, thank you so much - I am very excited to level with my friend in duo when Blizzard launches Vanilla.

[@ellypsis603]

Druid/Warlock

[@ryuranzou]

After trying out vanilla in a duo it's been amazing. We help each other catch up on quests and each upgraded gear item is very memorable. If you're a priest wands are amazing especially greater wand at 13. Holding agro over my priest buddy is hard even before that.

[@ChiefJudge]

No rogues? wtf

[@thatasianmike90]

I know right, he always shitted on rogue leveling. He obviously never leveled one past 10.

[@timmietimmins3780]

Yeah, they just don't really do well in groups, to my mind. They don't have the mitigation to make healing them super worthwhile. They have a lot of cc and stuns, so they prefer to fight mages, neutralizing the massive value of thorns. They kill stuff too quickly to synergize with dots, and have crappy ranged power to pull stuff off your healer if you have any type of healing over time effect, meaning if a pull spreads out, it can get annoying real quick. Its' fine to level with a buddy with zero synergy (as long as you don't jump on each other's pulls), but I would say the primary value is going to be sharing tags for kill quests, killing world mobs super easily and reliably, shipping each other green items, and getting buffs. So probably paladin or druid?

[@Xcitng1988]

Druid and rogue would be fine but no front backstab really slows things down

[@ChiefJudge]

@Keith Exactly, thats good dps and good cc for elites or players.

[@Mammel248]

Levelled 2 Rogues on 1x servers to 60, as well as 2 Hunters, a Warlock and a Warrior. When partying up with a healer Rogue was by far the least powerful combo. Warrior and Warlock were godlike with a healer and Hunter is pretty decent as well (but not nearly as good as Lock or Warr). There's just no special synergy like there is with BoP on a Warlock or WF on a Warrior for example.