Classical Composer Reacts to Frankenstein (Edgar Winter Group) | The Daily Doug (Episode 505)

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Doug Helvering

Doug Helvering

Күн бұрын

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In this episode of #thedailydoug, I'm listening to Frankenstein by the Edgar Winter Group. Of cousre, I'm aware of this ubiquitous riff, having heard it countless times at sporting events throughout the years. But, I don't think I've ever really listened to the entire track...much less the live version of this song that we'll hear from The Old Grey Whistle Test television show. I hope you enjoy!
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@douglasgraham9045
@douglasgraham9045 Жыл бұрын
Guitarist on this live track is actually Rick Derringer. Ronnie Montrose played guitar on the studio version.
@vernhoke7730
@vernhoke7730 Жыл бұрын
I saw Rick in a little arena in Asbury Park back in 1977 opening for Heart.
@kevinkliegl9315
@kevinkliegl9315 Жыл бұрын
Saw them in concert with Rick, fantastic!
@douglasgraham9045
@douglasgraham9045 Жыл бұрын
Saw Edgar with Ringo Starr’s all star band back in October. Great version of Frankenstein. He still has it and he’s in his 70’s
@robertakerman3570
@robertakerman3570 Жыл бұрын
I can only guess; on another planet: If Edgar hadn't done this, Mr Zappa would've(ha-ha).
@briancutler8977
@briancutler8977 Жыл бұрын
You are correct!
@cris_j
@cris_j Жыл бұрын
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the sheer talent of Edgar Winter? He's a multi-instrumentalist virtuoso.
@WELLBRAN
@WELLBRAN Жыл бұрын
he had to compete with Johnny...lol...and he did just that
@kevdmiller
@kevdmiller Жыл бұрын
Seriously. I've always loved this song but until I saw this footage I didn't comprehend. To see him not just play these four instruments, but be freakin' BADASS at ALL of them! It's just a whole other level of talent.
@willasacco9898
@willasacco9898 Жыл бұрын
@@kevdmiller Pure genius - Most of us don’t possess it, but we can appreciate it on pieces like this.
@kevdmiller
@kevdmiller Жыл бұрын
@@willasacco9898 I am a multi-instrumentalist myself, but I'm only actually good at one, OK at a couple, and barely good enough to keep up on another couple (if we keep it simple), but this kind of cross-virtuosity is SOOOO beyond what I can do!
@willasacco9898
@willasacco9898 Жыл бұрын
@@kevdmiller You are still ahead of most of us, believe me. How many people can play one instrument, let alone four. You have confidence and a great work ethic to get that far. Those are my thoughts as a non-musician music geek. Stay well✌️
@vernhoke7730
@vernhoke7730 Жыл бұрын
There are 2 studio versions. A short single, radio friendly version and the longer album version. This one is a monster. Rick Derringer is playing guitar here.
@metalmark1214
@metalmark1214 Жыл бұрын
Check out the cover of this song by Overkill.
@ZalMoxis
@ZalMoxis Жыл бұрын
@@metalmark1214 yuck
@peacefulpossum2438
@peacefulpossum2438 Жыл бұрын
Yes! I remember hearing it on the radio. The ‘70s were a glorious time for rock and FM radio.
@metalmark1214
@metalmark1214 Жыл бұрын
@@ZalMoxis Same thing I say about most prog, 🤣
@User-jk8wq
@User-jk8wq Жыл бұрын
Nope, Ronnie Montrose played guitar on the studio version and Derringer was the producer. After Ronnie left to found Montrose with Sammy Hagar Rick stepped up to the plate and took over Edit: sorry, that was me being an idiot. I didn’t realise he was playing the live version until it started haha. It’s Derringer on this cut
@alannelson3215
@alannelson3215 Жыл бұрын
The Old Grey Whistle Test is an absolute treasure trove of live performances from pretty much every artiste of the day. It's pure rock and roll history.
@fiddleandfart
@fiddleandfart Жыл бұрын
Meat Loaf's live "Paradise by the Dashboard Light" on this show is a performance to marvel at and treasure!!! It's on KZbin!!
@paulpuerling9504
@paulpuerling9504 Жыл бұрын
@@fiddleandfart My fav is SAHB doing "Give My Compliments to the Chef"
@russellmorgan5611
@russellmorgan5611 Жыл бұрын
When that show turned up i thought all my birthdays had come at once. Opened up the soundtrack to my life. Thank you BBC.
@martinconnelly1473
@martinconnelly1473 Жыл бұрын
@@russellmorgan5611 I watched it in my teens, saw this the first time it was transmitted and SABH doing their set as mentioned by Paul though my fav was Next. I also got to see SAHB live about this time as well, the encore song was Faith Healer IIRC.
@mightyV444
@mightyV444 Жыл бұрын
@@paulpuerling9504 - I'd watched that clip again only recently! 😀👍 My favourite _funny_ OGWT performance: The Damned 😂🙈 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4uaZ395lNFrr80
@pambennett3390
@pambennett3390 Жыл бұрын
I saw Edgar Winter perform this in 2022 when he was touring with Ringo Starr. He was still amazing. God, we are all so old but we had amazing music.
@arnesaknussemm2427
@arnesaknussemm2427 Жыл бұрын
The Old Grey Whistle Test got its name from a story concerning the Brill building in New York’s tin pan alley. If a songwriter heard one of the old janitors whistling a tune they had been working on, then they knew that song was going to be a hit. It had passed the ‘old greys’ whistle test.
@WeirsBeard
@WeirsBeard Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a fan of TOGWT for years and did not know this piece of cool trivia-thanks!
@kevinkliegl9315
@kevinkliegl9315 Жыл бұрын
Cool story.
@bobthebear1246
@bobthebear1246 Жыл бұрын
Is that where the expression comes from?! Had no idea. Amazing!!
@arnesaknussemm2427
@arnesaknussemm2427 Жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_Grey_Whistle_Test
@wardka
@wardka Жыл бұрын
I always wondered what the name meant.
@thomasgoodwin2648
@thomasgoodwin2648 Жыл бұрын
While I was working in an L.A. Music repair shop, Edgar brought in one of his 2 stage keyboards with an intermittent problem (that one in the video might even be it). I helped figure out what the problem was and got a live solo performance of 'Frankenstein' while he tested it. I stood about foot and a 1/2 away with about six other peeps in a room the size of a large closet. Pretty cool stuff.
@davorzmaj753
@davorzmaj753 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that's a memory to treasure, for sure!
@thomasgoodwin2648
@thomasgoodwin2648 Жыл бұрын
@@davorzmaj753 Maybe even better was when he high fived me after for solving the problem that had been plaguing him for months (intermittent problems are the worst.). The shop was a happy camp for the rest of the day to be sure.
@BayouMaccabee
@BayouMaccabee Жыл бұрын
"You can never have too much percussion, y'all." I must say, as a drummer, it makes me so happy to hear non-drummers the caliber of Doug say this. 《 induces sniff & 1 tear 》💧
@bobthebear1246
@bobthebear1246 Жыл бұрын
I see what you did there. You might also say that dear ol' Doug has put you in the Driver's Seat.
@BayouMaccabee
@BayouMaccabee Жыл бұрын
@@bobthebear1246 Well, I guess it's true as the saying goes..."A band is only as good as its drummer."
@misterghee1
@misterghee1 Жыл бұрын
More cowbell😁👆
@davorzmaj753
@davorzmaj753 Жыл бұрын
@@bobthebear1246 *lol*
@keithbarnes9419
@keithbarnes9419 Жыл бұрын
Ditto! Put that on a shirt and sell it! I'll buy two!
@jasonlambert5552
@jasonlambert5552 Жыл бұрын
The synth being used is an ARP 2600, and was chosen because of the separate keyboard from the main unit.
@johngalt97
@johngalt97 Жыл бұрын
Sometime in the late 70's/early 80's David Letterman had Edgar Winter on his show and David advised the audience that any opportunity to see Edgar in concert would include a long rendition of Frankenstein, and to use a watch to time the length. I later got to see Edgar with George Thorogood in a volleyball court behind a bar called Minder-Binder's in Tempe, and the Frankenstein that night was 19 minutes long. Thanks for the tip, Dave!
@stpetie7686
@stpetie7686 Жыл бұрын
Holy wave-of-nostalgia, Batman! Minder Binders? I used to go there in the '70's. Haven't thought of that place in decades.
@chuckbob49
@chuckbob49 Жыл бұрын
It’s Dan Hartman, of "I Can Dream About You" fame, on bass. He sang lead vocals on this album's other hit, "Free Ride." Truly an all-star lineup!
@jaco944
@jaco944 Жыл бұрын
I came here to say exactly this!
@hughjarrse
@hughjarrse Жыл бұрын
Surely instant replay 🙂 (certainly on this side of the pond) with Vinnie Vincent on guitar 😯
@foamrob6577
@foamrob6577 Жыл бұрын
Wow I absolutely did not know that. Very cool
@mightyV444
@mightyV444 Жыл бұрын
Poor guy had died from a brain tumour already in '94! 😔
@michaelbenge2388
@michaelbenge2388 Жыл бұрын
Rick Derringer played guitar on this live performance. He’s well known for his big hit, “Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo”
@josephgallagher945
@josephgallagher945 Жыл бұрын
Edgar Winter on triple duty & the incomparable & underrated Rick Derringer on lead guitar. Saw Rick many times👍
@bpora01
@bpora01 Жыл бұрын
People say that you need 10000 hours of practice to master a subject but this... this goes beyond mastery, it's even more than instinctual. It's a fundamental understanding of how to manipulate sound.
@MagravatorMag
@MagravatorMag Жыл бұрын
I guarantee that his keyboard weighed 50 lbs +. There are some good interviews with Edgar, where he talks about the synth and the creation of this song. He's a musical force, for sure.
@brianglock3099
@brianglock3099 Жыл бұрын
😊 no, it’s just the keyboard to the ARP 2600, connected by a long cable, under 10:pounds. The 2600 probably around 25 to 30
@perry3928
@perry3928 Жыл бұрын
Hi Doug. Ah the Arp 2600. An econic synth up there with the Moog model d. You nailed it. R2D2's voicing was created on the 2600.
@briangriffin5524
@briangriffin5524 Жыл бұрын
Great to see this music being kept alive. Rick Derringer on guitar, who wrote Rock and Roll Hoochie Coo, which became a huge hit for brother Johnny Winter.
@thembill8246
@thembill8246 Жыл бұрын
He also produced Weird Al yankovic's first album
@KidsOnCampus2
@KidsOnCampus2 Жыл бұрын
Huge hit for Rick Derringer. Minor hit for Johnny Winter... ;)
@jasonremy1627
@jasonremy1627 Жыл бұрын
3:33 the keyboard is the controller for the synth. The actual electronics are behind him in those big stacks.
@EssArrB
@EssArrB Жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly. Somebody else commented that it was an ARP2600. Analogue synth controllers like this were pretty easy to hook up. Keith Emerson did similar with his ribbon controller and Moog modular.
@jazzpunk
@jazzpunk Жыл бұрын
This absolutely LIVE performance is off-the-chain! My 1st-ever concert was this exact group of 4 guys...during this time frame. The Old Grey Whistle Test was a great programme...Germany's The Beat Club is another.
@donnielsen154
@donnielsen154 Жыл бұрын
Saw Edgar doing this at Tahoe, was sitting with my arm on the stage dead center watching him play on the keyboard he wore around his neck
@marcmancini8275
@marcmancini8275 Жыл бұрын
I just watched Edgar play this with Ringo Starr & friends summer 2022. He can still rock! And it was awesome seeing Steve Lukather play the guitar riffs. Always loved this song.
@colinsweetman6745
@colinsweetman6745 Жыл бұрын
I had forgotten what an absolutely awesome track this was. Thank you Doug for resurrecting it into my consciousness after 50 years.
@drskelebone
@drskelebone Жыл бұрын
Me: "This guy, slandering a good song." Also Me: "JFC, it has been 50 years!"
@bobbailey8282
@bobbailey8282 Жыл бұрын
"They should have hired me to play the little bicycle horn"! 🤣 Were you even around in 1973? This was such a huge hit for them. Rocked me all year long!
@kengregory6026
@kengregory6026 Жыл бұрын
The Old Grey Whistle Test with Whispering Bob Harris...superb....many legendary (always live) performances on TOGWT...Little Feat's 'Rock'n' Roll Doctor is a personal fav...nice one Doug :)
@joolz4848
@joolz4848 Жыл бұрын
One memorable moment on OGWT was John Otway & Wild Willy Barrett destroying their kit before the end of the show. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYfCZGV4iJJ0gtk
@AnOldGreyDog
@AnOldGreyDog Жыл бұрын
Best music programme ever. It was such a refreshing change from the anodyne garbage on Top of the Pops. Jools Holland's show these days isn't a patch on TOGWT. I discovered so many great bands via Whisperin' Bob and Annie N.
@kevinkliegl9315
@kevinkliegl9315 Жыл бұрын
Love Little Feat!
@chassetterfield9559
@chassetterfield9559 Жыл бұрын
If you like the 'double drum duet' you have to check out Phil Collins & Chester Thompson in Genesis live, before the start of Los Endos. It was a staple up until last year's final Genesis tour.
@fcernig33
@fcernig33 Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@chassetterfield9559
@chassetterfield9559 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaG2kJiHiZWIsJo&feature=emb_logo Not just inside the Genesis tent, but with his own 'big band' again with Chester Thompson. The track is 'And so to F', a piece he composed for the 'other' band he occasionally played in, 'Brand X' kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXzSaHewlpiKY8U
@joolz4848
@joolz4848 Жыл бұрын
Oh, how I miss The Old Grey Whistle Test. I remember seeing that and going out the next day and getting the single (which I still have 51 years later).
@caryheuchert
@caryheuchert Жыл бұрын
It’s hard to believe it’s been nearly 50 years since “Frankenstein” hit the charts. I remember it well. One of the highlights of 1973.
@alldayadventures5418
@alldayadventures5418 Жыл бұрын
Had this one on a 45. For all you young en's that means a 45 RPM Record that is 60% smaller than a full size LP and has one song on each side. At the time 45's sold for $0.60 to $0.90, a much cheaper alternative to an album for $5.60. (smiles)
@kevinkliegl9315
@kevinkliegl9315 Жыл бұрын
You mean the original CD!
@alldayadventures5418
@alldayadventures5418 Жыл бұрын
Wuz looking for it, must be gone now. I think it had "FREE RIDE" on the "B" side.
@JoriDiculous
@JoriDiculous Жыл бұрын
Almost always had one track pr. side, but there are exceptions with two or more tracks on at least one of the sides. (and then you got the Ep the size of a '45... )
@darrenbrown577
@darrenbrown577 Жыл бұрын
This was from the Old Grey Whistle Test (OGWT 1971 to 1988) which gave a platform for many ground-breaking artists from the UK and afar. Everyone played live - no exceptions. I could list many great performances from the their, but I'll let you discover them for yourself.
@darrenbrown577
@darrenbrown577 Жыл бұрын
@B WJ Yes, the performance by AC/DC on Rock Goes to College is unmissable.
@boojum
@boojum Жыл бұрын
Some early OGWT sessions were mimed - look at the Bowie performance of "Oh! You Pretty Things"
@Blue-ff2qv
@Blue-ff2qv 8 ай бұрын
Edgar is an inventor, AND HE PLAYS EVERY DAMN INSTRUMENT YOU CAN COME UP WITH!
@gradypatterson1948
@gradypatterson1948 Жыл бұрын
The synth that Edgar is playing is an ARP 2600 - it has a rack-mount main electronics module, and a separate keyboard connected by a "curly-cord". It was not intended to be strapped on, but Edgar wanted stage freedom, so he mounted the strap himself ... just screwed it in! The keyboard weighed quite a bit - possibly as much as 20 pounds (I've never been able to find an official weight)! ... And Edgar played that sax lead - and the first timbale bit - with the keyboard still strapped on! The tapes that were "Frankensteined" together were from earlier live shows: Edgar recorded everything, and the band would just jam as an intro and warm-up. The "Double Drum Song" was one warm-up routine, and the main riff is another one: they were originally not specifically the same song! They needed one more song for their debut album, and Edgar just started putting bits of those recordings together! The name itself apparently came about because drummer Chuck Ruff walked in during Edgar's splicing madness and said something to the effect of "You're creating a Frankenstein's Monster!" It was only after the fact that the band learned the song as a single piece from the tapes rather than the usual other way around - and regular guitarist Ronnie Montrose couldn't make this gig, so the band's producer Rick Derringer filled in quite nicely!
@larryboles629
@larryboles629 11 ай бұрын
I had seen Edgars Group live in concert twice. (1973, 1974) I also saw his brother one time in Texas. So much talent between the two it is amazing.
@starshiptrooper7670
@starshiptrooper7670 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of Edgars keyboard, I saw them play this song on Ringo's All-Star Tour in '08. After he put the keyboard on, he said (I'm paraphrasing here) I came up with this design, so I guess you could say I invented the first strap on (sexual innuendo). After a hardy laugh, they preceded to play a smok'in version of Frankenstein. A damn good show all in all. Edgar's brother Johnny was a star in his own right. One hell of a guitarist. RIP Johnny
@attichatchsound-bobkowal5328
@attichatchsound-bobkowal5328 Жыл бұрын
Interesting you mentioned R2D2. That synth ( an Arp 2600) was indeed used to create the R2D2 sounds for the original Star Wars trilogy.
@docdurdin
@docdurdin Жыл бұрын
Both Edgar and his brother Johnny were musical geniuses.
@KB-ke3fi
@KB-ke3fi 11 ай бұрын
Yes, they absolutely were.
@tejoe13
@tejoe13 Жыл бұрын
I've seen Edgar live five times. Frankenstein is still a work in progress. Over the five times I've seen him, the time for this song ranged from 9 minutes to almost 20. Always adding or changing stuff every time.
@markteasdale9283
@markteasdale9283 Жыл бұрын
I sat in a small teaching with Edgar Winter and his wife. Edgar was one of the x that were set to open the hard Rock Cafe in Orlando. After watching him rehearse with a guitar player who was clueless.... I got up the nerve to tell him that I just brought a brand new Carvin and when he goes back after the break I would love to play Frankenstein with him... I told him I've been playing at my whole life and at that point had a good 20 plus years of playing under my belt... And now I'm sitting in the room with Mr Frankenstein.... He said sure Mark go grab your guitar and Let's Jam. That was probably the most exciting musical moment by playing career until Rick Derringer one of my guitar heroes walked in... Everyone tells me I should have got right up on that stage plugged in and told Rick Edgar just said I could jam with you guys.... Of course I didn't do that or I'd be writing a different story..... The moral is... Always take advantage of a great opportunity... Because you may not get a second chance
@stevengoranson664
@stevengoranson664 3 ай бұрын
Always love hearing this and I appreciate your comments. I have been playing since 1966 and learn something when I listen to you.
@danielgower5531
@danielgower5531 Жыл бұрын
At the very end is Mr Bob Harris who is still broadcasting on the BBC. Keep rockin' through 2023 Doug!
@beguile302
@beguile302 Жыл бұрын
Good call on R2D2. It is in fact an ARP 2600, the same used to make the sounds of R2D2!
@dudleylitz7369
@dudleylitz7369 Жыл бұрын
black lights would go on during the keyboard solo, revealing his painted hands!
@sylvanaire
@sylvanaire Жыл бұрын
It’s been 5 months since you reacted to this song, so maybe time for another live performance from Edgar but this time w/his brother Johnny on blues guitar, check out Tobacco Road if you can. Edgar does vocal scatting that sounds a lot like the riff on the sax! Incredible talent, both of them.
@torbenanschau6641
@torbenanschau6641 Жыл бұрын
About the keyboard, your observation is kinda right. But it wasn't a dedicated remote keyboard, these indeed came up in latest 70s and early 80s (Moog Liberation, Sequential Remote, Roland SH-101, Yamaha KX1 etc.). Edgar famously used the Keyboard of the ARP 2600. That was ARPs' bigger Model (compared to the Odyssey, smaller than the huge modular 2500), a half modular design. You can see the device standing behind him which was the synthesizer. Being half modular it came in a case and the keyboard was connected by a ribbon cable. And that's the thing he's wearing. The later Remote Keyboards or Keytars usually did not have their own sound engines but played other synths via MIDI. And that was invented 11 years later.
@gtarry
@gtarry Жыл бұрын
The late Dan Hartman on bass, who later went on to have disco hits!
@acgijzen
@acgijzen Жыл бұрын
Correct version as well! Love this even before it going live!
@relativetimeworx8459
@relativetimeworx8459 Жыл бұрын
It's hard to grasp in 2023 just how revolutionary the synth work was in 1972... stuff that may seem simple and old hat now, back then was mind-blowing - and that's not a keytar, it is a strap fixed to a synth
@JoriDiculous
@JoriDiculous Жыл бұрын
and yet the best synths ever was made back then. crazy.
@guitarchannel5676
@guitarchannel5676 Жыл бұрын
@@JoriDiculous Agreed. New synths are silly imitations of other keyboards (e.g. organ, piano, harpsichord, etc) that are not convincing in replicating anything. The whole point of a synthesizer was to create new sounds, not reinvent the wheel.
@gtrmn34
@gtrmn34 Жыл бұрын
Gregg Bissonette covers this on his debut with his bro Matt on bass and Doug Bossi and George Bernhardt on the guitars. Great Version! I love the live Edgar Winter Group version of course. Always fun to watch!
@nicometal22
@nicometal22 Жыл бұрын
- What instrument do you play? - Yes
@onsesejoo2605
@onsesejoo2605 Жыл бұрын
Edgar Winter was perhaps the first to use the synth in that way. To be precise, he uses an ARP 2600 that has a standard, cable connected but separate keyboard.
@PANTECHNICONRecordings
@PANTECHNICONRecordings Жыл бұрын
Exactly this - he’s attached a strap to the ARP keyboard, which is conveniently separate from the main synth electronics. Jo Zawinul also took advantage of this separation, but in a different way - he would sometimes turn the keyboard round and play it “backwards” to get new melodic ideas from familiar fingerings.
@netgnostic1627
@netgnostic1627 2 ай бұрын
I read that Edgar frankensteined that keyboard with his own ideas so that he could wear it with the shoulder strap. He says the record company was ecstatic about it. So were the audiences!
@billsager5634
@billsager5634 Жыл бұрын
Basically, Edgar Winter was one of the first artists to us a strapped keyboard. He wanted to be out in front, and not hidden behind a keyboard setup, so he developed a way to attach a guitar strap to keyboards.
@markmiwurdz202
@markmiwurdz202 Жыл бұрын
Bill Sager. You may already know this. Apparently Gary Wright - he of "Dream Weaver" fame, went on the road with a "no guitar band" using these strap keyboards and a drummer. Stay safe and well.
@Zseventyone
@Zseventyone Жыл бұрын
Yes, British TV is more important than most realize. - “Mayflower” direct descendant
@ImYourOverlord
@ImYourOverlord Ай бұрын
Same here, from the Holbrook family line 😁
@donnielsen154
@donnielsen154 Жыл бұрын
Saw him in Tahoe in the late 80s still working that keyboard - awesome show with him about 10 feet from my seat
@PuppyMonsters
@PuppyMonsters Жыл бұрын
Some time around '91 or '92, I went to a club in L.A. to see a bunch of bands play. There were 4 or 5 acts that night, no big bands, just up and comers. One of the bands had 2 drummers, one at a sit down set and one standing up like Edgar, but with a lot more drums both vertical and horizontal. Every other song in their set, the 2 drummers traded places. It was a great night for percussion.
@ShiftysRevenge
@ShiftysRevenge Жыл бұрын
Edgar was so amazing. So friggin talented, wow!
@aaronaudioguy
@aaronaudioguy Жыл бұрын
I've heard this riff so many time, but had no idea where it was from OR that it was from the freakin' 1970s. Astonishing. Thank you for sharing.
@KB-ke3fi
@KB-ke3fi 11 ай бұрын
The Winters....the Beaumont TX rockers, besides the big bopper, and Janice Joplin in the nearby town ot Port Arthur TX. Those were rocking times....the rest of the country didn't even know about it at the time I was up the road in Houston.
@ozarka7836
@ozarka7836 Жыл бұрын
Doug, you don't know how true that statement about R2D2 being in the band was. Arp 2600 is literally the same synth used to create his voice.
@doctormojo
@doctormojo Жыл бұрын
The OGWT was filmed in a BBC studio in west London, with no audience. As you watch all these videos bear in mind they are being watched by half a dozen old guys in cardigans.
@keithbird8910
@keithbird8910 Жыл бұрын
No one seems to have mentioned the very talented Dan Hartman on bass, who would go on to produce the disco classic "Instant Replay".
@faithjones881
@faithjones881 Жыл бұрын
Your knowledge and breakdown of this instrumental is FANTASTIC and the best I’ve ever heard… ever! 🙌🏻🔥. I’ve watched a ton of reactions over the years to this and not one of them had the info you did… phenomenal! Thank you so much!
@duanevp
@duanevp Жыл бұрын
One of the best things about that performance is that you can see that they are all just having a BLAST! I think that comes through in what we hear.
@NotBenCoultry
@NotBenCoultry Жыл бұрын
Some small part of me misses my bicycle air horn 😆
@chrismoorcroft334
@chrismoorcroft334 Жыл бұрын
I saw this performance on its original broadcast and loved it immediately. The Old Grey Whistle Test had the advantage of usually being the last show before the station closed for the night, so if a band felt like stretching out they didn't have to worry about being cut off.
@drkaplin98
@drkaplin98 Жыл бұрын
My first guitar teacher and guitar Idol (John Andrews- Buffalo, NY) used to play this in his 4 piece metal band in the early 80's. No keyboards, he did it all on guitar and nailed it note for note. That's one reason I got him to be my first guitar teacher.
@wagonmaster6997
@wagonmaster6997 Жыл бұрын
The ARP 2600 synth that he uses, was also used to make R2D2's voice. So you we're right about R2 being in the group.
@lmontanaable
@lmontanaable Жыл бұрын
Got to see Edgar Winter do this with Ringo Starr All Star Band May 2022. Edgar “killed” it. Thanks Doug for all that you do.
@steveerik123
@steveerik123 Жыл бұрын
Edgar on the synth with the thunder sounds was the creation of Frankenstein
@rick-says-hello-world
@rick-says-hello-world Жыл бұрын
R2-D2 was literally in the band. That synth (ARP2600) did R2's effects.
@danacasey8543
@danacasey8543 Жыл бұрын
I was fortunate to see them live in 1974, and then Edgar Winter was 3rd billing in a concert my son took me to in 2017 (with Deep Purple and Alice Cooper). He's amazing live!
@thancrow
@thancrow Жыл бұрын
I got to see Edgar Winter Group in concert. The concert was amazing.
@simonjones8111
@simonjones8111 Жыл бұрын
Always loved this, and the Old Grey Whistle test set is burned into my memory, phenomenal talents 🎉
@Sagan_Starborn
@Sagan_Starborn 6 ай бұрын
I watched this whole live session with the "stank face" - I was amazed. Absolutely mindblown
@donaldhester9952
@donaldhester9952 Күн бұрын
I got to see Edgar Winter live. It was amazing.
@kevinmusso2397
@kevinmusso2397 2 ай бұрын
Really enjoy you Doug. You are a really bright person. Thanks
@gr8scott198
@gr8scott198 Жыл бұрын
I suddenly respect Edgar Winter loads more than I did 15 minutes ago. That was Friggin' awesome! Rock on! I must subscribe to your channel, I tell ya! Thanks, guy.
@wformic
@wformic 8 ай бұрын
as an aside, it's a trip watching someone watch Edgar (or Johnny) for the 1st time! Love it! Spread tha word!
@tarkus522
@tarkus522 Жыл бұрын
That is just the keyboard section of the ARP 2600 synthesizer connected via cable. It's the synth that he kneels at to make those noises. You could do the same thing with a Moog modular synth.
@jobbo_
@jobbo_ Жыл бұрын
As far as I understand, the Whistle Test was aired very late at night just before broadcasting ended for the day, which meant that the last act on the show could potentially overrun, and play a longer piece than was usual. This resulted in some wonderful live performances being recorded, this one included
@jimh4496
@jimh4496 Жыл бұрын
Edgar didn't want to sit in the background behind his keyboard, so he screwed a strap onto his synthesizer and became the frontman.
@rkb2092
@rkb2092 Жыл бұрын
What a year when two killer instrumentals got on AM Radio, Frankenstein and Hocus Pocus. I started buying albums at this point (8th Grade).
@ausfuhrpramienjagar
@ausfuhrpramienjagar Жыл бұрын
. Don't forget, that's Dan "I Can Dream About You" Hartman with the killer bassline goin on! 🙂
@paullawson7546
@paullawson7546 11 күн бұрын
Doug, they weren't making wearable synths in the '70s. That's an Arp 2600. I had one in '79. I had a leather strap fashioned at a shoe repair store for $20.00, made the holes in the sides of the keyboard myself and affixed the strap, I don't recall how. The cable to the "patch bay" was very short and there was no long cable you could buy. The original cable had 6 or 7 wires in it so I took a jukebox cable (I was a jukebox and pinball machine repairmen) and made a 20' cable. It functioned wonderfully for quite some time and the crowds went wild... as did I. 😊 IDK how Edgar did it but that's my recipe. ;-) What a great tune, huh?
@Tuzilla
@Tuzilla Жыл бұрын
I saw Edgar so this live in like late 72 or early 73. Rick Derringer was the guitarist. Amazing stuff. Edgar is the greatest multi-instrument guy in rock.
@pcatful
@pcatful 4 ай бұрын
I hung out with my roommate at a synthesizer lab in college at that time. We were still using patch cords, simple sequencers, and my friend had to splice tapes to do these things. Wild they could do this live.
@paulekylou
@paulekylou Жыл бұрын
Dan Hartman went on to have one of the greatest pop hits of the ‘80s with “I Can Dream About You.”
@rubroken
@rubroken Жыл бұрын
I love your musical/technical knowledge, it makes your reaction special!
@jimallmondsr3467
@jimallmondsr3467 11 ай бұрын
I am at a complete loss of words every time I listen to this cut!!!
@danielcenteno8741
@danielcenteno8741 Жыл бұрын
Great Video and this was definitely the live version to check out - Keep the content coming Doug! Not sure if anyone commented about it but the Synth he's using is an Arp2600, it's a full semi-modular synth but he took the keyboard and added straps to make him more mobile just like you mentioned
@dvolonino
@dvolonino 6 ай бұрын
Always loved this song. I can not believe I've never heard this version. I guess an old dog can learn new licks!😂
@andrewwallace7775
@andrewwallace7775 Жыл бұрын
The Old Grey Whistle Test was a great, great show. A friend of mine loaned me a DVD of the "best of", and there are so many awesome performances... and they look so young! Alice Cooper, Elton John, Rory Gallagher - and even Focus!
@micknordstrom2591
@micknordstrom2591 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best live performances of rock music ever!
@RobertFantinatto
@RobertFantinatto Жыл бұрын
Great comment about R2D2 being in the band, in fact the semi-modular synth he is using is the legendary ARP2600 which was in fact used to generate the bleeps and bloops of that lovable droid! The keyboard was in fact simply a controller that was connected to the ARP2600 so it didn't weigh an awful lot.
@jimtatro6550
@jimtatro6550 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the songs that inspired me as a kid to pick up a pair of drumsticks. One of the greatest rock instrumental tracks ever recorded.🔥🤘🏻🎧
@TheLastOilMan
@TheLastOilMan Жыл бұрын
Sir Edgar , mysterious magician
@walliscrow
@walliscrow Жыл бұрын
I don't always listen to Edgar Winter, but when I do, so do the neighbors. Pretty sure I've blown out at least 2 sets of speakers with this tune over the years.
@armorer94
@armorer94 8 ай бұрын
Funny you should mention R2-D2. Ben Burtt created the robots "voice" using sn ARP-2600 synth just like the one Edgar is using.
@floriansteinitz1506
@floriansteinitz1506 Жыл бұрын
those monophonic synthesizers
@sidneyvandykeii3169
@sidneyvandykeii3169 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe Doug has never dug into Frankenstein.
@kurtb8474
@kurtb8474 Жыл бұрын
I'm 63 and IO remember this song. They really had to cut it down for play on AM radio.
@simonal1989
@simonal1989 Жыл бұрын
That bassist reminds me a lot of Chris Squire in the mid-70s.
@danhurley2274
@danhurley2274 Жыл бұрын
Very cool Doug! I was lucky to see Edgar play Frankenstein live once with his group White Trash and a couple of times with Ringo's All Starr Band. Magic! A friend of mine blew a speaker playing Frankenstein during the synth solo of the album version.
@clansome
@clansome Жыл бұрын
@Doug Helvering Hi Doug, I remember when this was first broadcast on OGWT, absolute knock out. The origins of the song go back to 1970 and him (Edgar) playing with his brother Johnny. The twin drums video is here kzbin.info/www/bejne/i32Vg2d5qLmCbbc some 3 years before their OGWT performance. Something that most people don't realise is that quite a lot of the performances on OGWT that were sold to us as live weren't as Musician's Union rules put a limit on the amount of live broadcasting. This one was live though, often the group would do a prerecord in the afternoon, it was a hybrid mix.
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