Classical Composer Reacts to Savia (Soen) | The Daily Doug (Episode 219)

[@andreasstrom9648]

So happy to finally see Soen get some well deserved traction.

[@Renkaru]

Soen's latest album is so good. Less tool sounding, way more traditional proggressive rock.

[@chrisbassartist4344]

Sounding like Tool isn’t a bad thing though

[@Renkaru]

@@chrisbassartist4344 Of course not, though its better when a band carves out their own unique sound like they do in later albums. All their stuff is great, I just think their last two albums are more indecitive of their sound.

[@TheErazar]

Antagonist is fire and one of favourite tracks of my wife recently, who is not a metalhead at all :)

[@chrisbassartist4344]

@@Renkaru I think whenever a band is progressive and ambient they get compared to Tool I think they always had their own sound..I’m just a fan as soon as I heard them

[@amjan]

They never sounded like Tool. And their music is soooo much more rich and versatile.

[@Djcimofficial]

Keep travel down the SOEN path!! I fell in love with with band over the last 2-3 years

[@MetalGeek464]

You can really hear the Tool/Opeth influences on the early Soen releases: Cognitive and Tellurian. They do branch out more later on, but they are a Tool/Opeth lovechild for sure.

[@RJRedtail]

I hope you react to more Soen. Their music so melodically and lyrically rich.

[@giants9833]

In the last year or 2 Soen has become one of my favorite bands. They always have such beautiful melodic parts in their songs. Some of my favorites are "The Words", "River", "God's Acre", "Lucidity", "Martyrs", and "Illusion". Please check out more of this underrated band!

[@jeffholland3502]

- I just saw Soen in Atlanta (12-04-2022) their first American tour, this song was in the setlist. They put on one "hell-uva" show! The songs were not note for note album copies. Improvisation was tastefully sprinkled in, which only made their performance all the better. A group of true musicians, true to their art!

[@adriangoodrich4306]

Really enjoyed this piece - a new band to me. And you learn so much by listening to Doug's analysis. Really liked the bass and percussion. Cheers Doug!

[@dust4magnet]

Soen is great. Riverside is another stellar band in that sonic realm.

[@TheErazar]

Oh, just started listening and they already sound so good. Thanks for suggesting

[@grzegorzmadej674]

@@TheErazar Riverside music is so spaceful, I think of them as a new Pink Floyd, even while their former guitarist Piotr Grudziński - totally brilliant in his Gilomurish style solos - has passed away.

[@Hy-jg8ow]

Reminds me a bit of Katatonia too.

[@kalikatsaros15]

Riverside are one of my favorites.. Such an atmosphere

[@TheErazar]

@@grzegorzmadej674 their Shrine of New Generation Slaves totally reminds me of Steven Wilson...

[@Alexander-mj1ff]

You should definitely react to the Lykaia or Lotus album, Soen deserves a little more respect

[@jonkwape3097]

Martin Lopez! My favorite Opeth drummer, that guy played tasty drum parts in Opeth in their prime, I was really glad to see him applying his skills in another band. And as much as early Soen is compared to Tool, it's a first reaction, I thought the same but once you really listen, they kinda don't really sound like Tool:) I'm not sure if they did it on purpose, but imo the early sound attracts the people that are into Tool and then filters the people who stay for their unique approach, which was honed as they matured.

[@wendepic]

Riverside is definitely a logical next step from this band! I suggest something from their newest album, Wasteland.

[@damianmarini1046]

Steve DiGiorgio is bass legend, I hope to see Death and Chuck Schuldiner some time in the channel

[@doomfable3378]

A legend indeed. His current work with Terra Odium was fantastic as always.

[@cyssiooo1722]

i wanted to recommend it to him right now xD as a classical musician death for me is on of the best metal acts of all the time

[@amjan]

4 out of 5 Soen's albums are FANTASTIC. One of the best metal bands right now!!

[@MalFunktion2024]

Hey doug, been watching for a while and the more i see you the more i like you and not just your wisdom. You are a great guy, i can see a great spirit inside you. Thanks for the content brother.

[@bjhellstream]

"Bass is all over the place" is synonymous with Steve DiGiorgio!

[@alexandroarezo6791]

Martín Mendez from Opeth born in Uruguay too. Both, great musicians.

[@cassioklein]

Fucking love this track. Discovered them recently too.

[@thinkingkind8675]

Soen has a TON of great music and meaningful lyrics. You should try out Illusion or Covenant for videos that are heavy. Penance they didn't do a video for but the song is really great.

[@jonathanhenderson9422]

Interesting song. Reminds me a lot of Tool, A Perfect Circle, Riverside, and Katatonia.

[@saturnus2112]

More Soen!!!

[@AlexT1212]

Riverside pleaseeeee Also lunatic soul as they are the same singer/writer

[@matthewperkins2827]

Yeah, maybe Hybrid Times or Egoist Hedonist by Riverside.

[@Arrow2theACL]

I recommended Escalator Shrine

[@Tony-py1nh]

@@Arrow2theACL What a great choice. "Shrine of New Generation Slaves" is a great album.

[@AlexT1212]

Second Life Syndrome the song!!!

[@grzegorzmadej674]

Escalator Shrine and Second Life Syndrome. I like them both, but also totally love Reality Dream III.

[@manfredmar]

I would recommend Lunacy or Lotus from their 2019 release "Lotus" They are quite underrated I would say.

[@antoniocarlin5026]

Spiral Architect is another band from neo progressive metal that you need to hear!!

[@trailrunner919]

Yeah man never heard of these either, but really enjoyed it...have to check out more from these guys!!!

[@sianpodmore4988]

The lovechild of Tool and Opeth as someone describes them elsewhere. Another new one on me and what's not to like? Another gem from DJ Dan. Thank you

[@alexandroarezo6791]

Reggards from Uruguay in South América. The drummer born in this country.

[@andreaspfau]

Doug - it would be great to have another analysis of a further Soen song such as "The Word" from Tellurian.🙂 this band needs to be put into spotlight much more as they are criminally underrated. They have substance, a unique style and such a box load of good songs.

[@marklangham4337]

You are correct w/ the Tool comparison, vocalist sounds a lot like Maynard!! Nice to see that Martin Lopez found life after Opeth.

[@gsresener]

i really enjoy Soen! Was waiting for that! I think their song Antagonist has a great video and lyrics, think you'd enjoy it. Also, it hits me in the gut, i can't really put my finger on it, don't know what it is, but for me, it's a powerful song!

[@timbaker7238]

Never heard from this band before...thanks for your dj pick Dan! And thanks Doug for reacting to it!

[@blppt]

Its the drummer from Opeth's glory years' band. (Martin Lopez).

[@edgarortiz168]

Now this is what i call a true Reaction!! You give a lot of interesting insights from the music in a theorical perspective.. Also dig into the lyrics... Yes, this album sounds a lot of Tool.. You mentioned that the bass is all over the song, and that's because Steve Di'Giorgio is a monster bassits. You've got a new fan and suscriber

[@hectorbaudino1465]

excelente elección la verdad. deberías seguir con otros temas de ese disco u otros. saludos desde el fin del mundo.

[@NK-bz9wb]

It's so beautiful with the piano at the same time. If I ever get a place for long enough lol, I can't wait to get back to playing piano.

[@tmauro386]

Reminds me of A Perfect Circle ⭕️ Pretty cool sound Still think Leprous would make for a great reaction Maybe Nighttime Disguise 🥸 or Shadowside or Out of Here off their latest release? The whole thing is awesome

[@manfredmar]

Yes! Nighttime Disguise is a great suggestion

[@theoldlaw8669]

Yup haha I thought the same it sounds more like A perfect circle to me than Tool

[@user-bv2zo3lf4t]

Great Band, Thank You! I haven't heard of them yet. Reminds me a lot of Katatonia

[@loud7070]

Thanks Doug to your brother for turning both of us on to Soen. Loved this reaction.

[@anomymouse5043]

Dynamics, dynamics, dynamics! Soen arranges their songs with contrasting sections. They arrange clear differences between verse, pre-chorus and chorus sections. Still, the flow of the song is not disturbed.

[@levianjenkins9447]

Your analysis of the lyrics is spot on.

[@yoqc]

Martin Lopez, Uruguay Uruguay!

[@DOTACeej]

Other songs i can recommend on this Album are "Fraccions", "Oscillation" amd "Canvas"

[@gringle8578]

Go for "Gods Acre" for the next soen reaction/analysis.

[@nikolaimikhail7774]

Your brother Dan sounds like an extremely cool dude

[@Zuracooking]

Doug you need to listen to some Pat Metheny Group if you haven't yet, "The Heat of the day" will really blow your mind

[@jonkwape3097]

"The Heat of the day" is a great song, I support this suggestion:)

[@sethkaicer319]

Chris Farley informed Doug, that if he kept on smoking doobies, that he would wind up living in a van down by the river!

[@go00o87]

i saw them live. A sweet memory ;)

[@Goldie1977]

Thank you for this. One of my fave bands. I think 1 song from each record would be a great journey for you I honestly do. The later albums defo nod towards some Floyd type stuff. Just amazing. 💙🎶🤘

[@Goldie1977]

I would recommend the following. The words - the most emotional song I’ve heard Lucidity Martyrs/lotus Antagonist/Illusion

[@NK-bz9wb]

I assume you know they're currently on tour, you gonna see em? I have a ticket for a show in a couple of weeks but I'll admit it I'm a little scared of getting covid (there's flying involved too)

[@mirekc8619]

Fantastic song!

[@MarcsYoutube]

Great song and analysis! I get strong Perfect Circle vibes, too. It's funny how their song "The Noose" is also about a "haaaalo slipping down". ;)

[@alphaenemyplus8376]

For something much different, I'm going to start peppering this place with Moron Police suggestions. That's one band that needs some exposure. They're a pop-prog band with obvious influences from Zappa, Billy Joel, Mr. Bungle, Elton John, and Devin Townsend. Super FUN music, but incredibly well composed. So please react to Moron Police's Captain Awkward.

[@HeikkiHeiskanen]

Ah yes, Soen is great.

[@Moondraak]

Nice. Was just listening to Soen earlier today ;)

[@metalmark1214]

Doug reminds us today that "You reap what you Soen"

[@leonardomaurizio]

Doug, you NEED to react to As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls by Pat Metheny & Lyle Mays. Not a lot of people know this masterpiece, but i'm sure that if you react to it everyone will be super happy!

[@TheSoulSaviour]

you have to listen to "Lotus" and "Lucidity"

[@MaurizioBonani]

When are we going to see The Dear Hunter on this Channel? I think is about time,

[@8JFJK8]

Please listen or react to their newest release “EMDR”. Its a new bonus track off their Lotus album. Its honestly one of the greatest songs ive ever heard.

[@emarsk77]

Nice shirt :) Which reminds me… more Opeth please! And some Enslaved, maybe. And Area, definitely some Area (especially from "1978 gli dei se ne vanno, gli arrabbiati restano!").

[@douglasroberto5888]

Ficou show esse complemento do piano 👏

[@julien2231]

Soen?? Hell yeah!!

[@jejejexD123]

Amazing!!! My favorite band, they have a Lot of better and complex songs (ennui, opal, Pluton, lascivious, antagonist) My dream is see You analize GRAVES by Caligulas Horse, maybe the Best prog metal song in years

[@teresaconboy895]

Would love to hear your reaction to Kamasi Washington "Change of the Guard."

[@BitterBetsy]

yay

[@Pedro-rn6fx]

Try the Lotus album from them Doug Cheers

[@regiskaram6776]

Iron Maiden, Opeth, Tool, Soen... I think the next logical band you should react to is Riverside. + listen to the song Pluton from Soen. Love and respect 🙏🏼.

[@Pappakropp]

So what track with Katatonia should Doug be recommended to analyze?

[@somberlight]

Considering what seems to resonate with him, Lethean.

[@Pappakropp]

@@somberlight Ah and some more forces double kickdrums. ;)

[@toxictortellini6921]

I highly recommend Feathergun in the Garden of the Sun, by Rishloo for your next prog video!

[@toxictortellini6921]

Also, if you love tasty bass lines, Delenda from this same album is phenomenal

[@levianjenkins9447]

You might wanna check out deprived (irretrievably lost imagination) by riverside. Also, DJDan has good taste.

[@anomymouse5043]

I propose following songs to look from Soen: Covenant, Martyrs, Lotus, Orison...

[@AdrianNazg]

great shirt

[@rodrigoclasesdepiano]

Nice t-shirt!

[@peterprovost727]

Why not having a Dan Wednesday!

[@otrebla54]

Zoen sounds similar to Tool.

[@vcp93]

Think they've ever listened to "Tool"? 🤔

[@otrebla54]

Hey Doug, Why you dontlike Rick Wakeman?? He is a virtuoso.

[@steve.hoffman]

Not really the song I would have picked for them. They’ve become far better songwriters in their later releases. Maybe would have gone with Illusion or Tabula Rosa for earlier releases. You should check out Katatonia next. Opeth’s sister band. Maybe Lacquer or Residual.

[@TheErazar]

Yes to Katatonia! Just not the first few albums :)

[@felipecampos3045]

you need the best prog band on you chanel doug, pain of salvation

[@denispainchaud3629]

Sounds like he went through an abortion and is conflicted about it now. This song stirred up some very intense emotions here. The lyrics on the soen website are accurate, words matter. Amazing job but I would love you to listen to it again, look at the floating foetuses and the one in the head in the end.

[@mosestalbot]

Music videos are funny things... "We're going to have the singer pretend to sing. The rest of the band? I don't know, stand there and look sullen." Not that I have a better idea.

[@mrmcmcc1]

Lost In a Lost World by Iron Maiden reaction please 🥰

[@sopwithsnoopy8779]

I 'think' this guitarist is still with the band, helping on songwriting & producing, but just not playing on the albums. Someone with more knowledge plz correct me if I'm wrong about that.

[@Cayoalbuquerque]

Sounds a lot like tool on those clean parts. Specially the vocals. That's not a bad thing in any way.

[@bidoo]

Hi Doug thanks again for your interesting vid/analysis/reaction upon that really nice piece of music. May I suggest you to take a listen to a canadian "metal" band named Voivod ? Voivod has been releasing albums for a long time and they definitely created their own universe between trash metal, prog music and more. Their former guitarist Denis D'Amour Piggy (RIP) was the king of dim/aug chords progressions and his successor Daniel Mongrain (Chewy) is definitely a great guitarist/composer, giving a slight Allan Holdsworth taste to their universe. Take a listen to those pieces please : kzbin.info/www/bejne/boXSfGyMga-Wrrc (warning masterpiece guitar solo inside) kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6WrZpaoablqg9U In another genre you should give a try to some math rock bands ... and if you go down the rabbit hole take a listen to Tera Melos kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKPPq4h3qZqLZ8k and many many more Best,

[@alphaenemyplus8376]

Thankfully Soen moved away from the Tool stuff.

[@08ruben69]

Please react to react to Dirty Loops

[@skateebee]

Shhhh Tool sound

[@blppt]

This is actually not a good example of Soen---pretty much anything off of Cognitive is a Tool clone, *especially* this song (although more APC than Tool in the vocals, yes I know they are the same guy!). Try Ennui off of Tellurian or Orison off of Lykaia.

[@scottgriffin2192]

Yes they're a band that sounded like Tool but as time passes you realize they Tool better then Tool if that makes sense. If Maynard ever got replaced this guy could make Tool even better.

[@InstrumentalArcanum]

I wish they(soen) would hold out there choruses longer. Its not enough. Should be repeating 3x not once . They do it a lot on their songs . Its really lame . Martyrs opal and a few others . Am i wrong ?

[@21stcenturypirate18]

You cannot claim to be a Classical composer and comment on Metal songs on Mondays (like simple Metallica baroque), and NOT do DIMMU BORGIR. It'd be like watching porn for the dialogue, missing that people are having sex!

[@cliffproctor]

Tool

[@chriscullen6949]

id be pretty mad if i was maynardo9r flattered..coulnnt get thru this one ..boring as hell

[@antonisarvanitidis4397]

Manowar-Heart of steel (with orchestra or not)

[@2112-c4i]

S(tool)EN

[@dodgejamesuk]

nothing like copying Key Of Geebz, same lay out, cap etc,,

[@proutytyler1]

6:19, it's not "you are the sign" It's "You are the scythe, harvesting what is not yours"

[@gringle8578]

Go for "Gods Acre" for the next soen reaction/analysis.