Clayster |DRAMA, PROS VS DEVS, 6050 Story | The Eavesdrop Podcast Ep. 52

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Start at 1:00
0:03 intro to clay
1:15 How does it feel to win Champs twice? Clay building a Champs winning team
3:05 Who is Clayster? Clay on picking up players from other Esports
7:15 who was play when he started playing videogames?
10:00 How did clay become pros and his thoughts on the early days of MLG
12:30 The crazy storylines within professional call of duty
17:00 Clay and Hecz on the reformatting of the CDL league
25:00 Clay on the 6050 house, butting heads with players that lived at 6050, the comradely that comes w living in the house
28:00 emergency landing in Niagara
31:10 The opportunity that comes with a team house
35:30 The crazy release story at 6050, how to make it as a content creator
41:00 clay on how to make it as a pro player, substituting in pro play
49:30 What can the players do to have a conversation with the developers to fix competitive play, long-standing problems in call of duty

[@HECZ]

YOU KNOW YOU GOTTA LEAVE A LIKE FOR THE FIRST PODCAST OF 2020!!

[@dapstur880]

Hecz what if they did different sections. Like dallas and chicago, toronto and seattle, paris london, LA *2, and NY, miami. so the players dont travel so much. Split it up so each side plays the other. Winner of NY Miami plays the winner of London Paris, and so forth. creates more matches but not too much. restoring the amount of tourneys played offering not too much but smaller to large tourneys. The two best teams play winner sits at the top while all the other teams play a loosers bracket 1L you're out for the Grand final. aka the new champs.

[@RoBRoB1231]

you forgot to mention formal when mentioning other people from esports

[@Demigod_3scrub]

You better know it! 👍 Lets Go HuntsMan Hecz

[@TyPlaysHD]

Serious question. Whats point of covering the logos of items like the chairs. I get that its DxRacer but what seriously is the point. Unless NRG has it happen cause they use someone else (thats my thinking)

[@anthonytrejo8753]

I WAITED SO LONG FOR THIS! Thank you for the banger.

[@rflatt16]

I had no desire to even watch online with the prior CDL format, it’s so much better now and it’s not even close

[@ianyname1736]

The problem is every single year a new cod comes out. The devs trying to fix all the bugs but this takes time and all of a sudden we are in the middle of summer and all the people just waiting for a new cod and don't give a shit about the current title anymore. I think we need ONE CoD and after 2-3 years that cod could be the perfect cod for most of the people with ranked play, BR, pub etc.etc. Why do we have to start from ground 0 every single year?

[@ryangloff6671]

I'm that nerd. I knew I wanted to be a software engineer my junior year of high school(6 years ago). I've been an software engineer for 2 years now.

[@ninjahstef]

The devs are stupid because if the game is broken and the community is mad they aren't doing anything about it then people will stop playing, meaning the company will lose money from transactions etc.

[@minhtfresh3195]

Holy smokes why you drop a banger on us in the MIDDLE OF THE DAY???

[@brandonh.2370]

Minhtfresh 319 gotta keep ya guessin

[@Adactylous]

Clay is the only player from cod other than Nadeshot and Big T that I actively check up on even tho I dont play cod anymore He's such a good dude and an elite player. always gonnna have respect for James

[@FeeLtheHertZ]

He's very intelligent and well put together, great dude to just check in with, news wise or see what's up. Def. agree.

[@dylanmulroe9978]

What about Sethy????

[@GibItUp]

LMAO at the Attach “I did my dishes” after putting them in the sink... funny as hell lmao

[@butchps4162]

Real talk from Clayster about Infinity Ward at 53:02 - 58:24

[@bmonta5992]

Big ups

[@KRKnowsNothing]

DUDE he hit on the right points.

[@FrankieBagOChips]

@Rain In July what points did he not hit? He was spot on IMO. I grew up off CoD. I'm 24 now and this game is fucking dead because of Lack of competitive gameplay. They coulda had me on CoD for the rest of my life, instead I swapped to PC for games like Counterstrike and Siege. CoD has been fucked for a long time now, purely because of a lack of competitive play. You should not HAVE to go to a 3rd Party site to play the game competitively, period. Of course 3rd party sites are most likely going to be more inclusive with better talent, but for the layman- they need to be introduced to it.

[@bradenmcguire7372]

Yep wow. 100% specially to do with ranked play

[@Nonchalant321]

Well said Clay, you hit it right on the head.

[@Hintz6]

Clay is a legend in the scene who, on the surface, appears to have been mistreated in roster changes throughout CoD's competitive history. Glad to see him in a good place these days.

[@mgu3241]

You gotta let clay talk lmao. He’s the guest

[@sherblato9147]

💯

[@blaqadam8710]

He ALWAYS cuts his guests off lol

[@carlosalejandre9363]

Blaq Adam not as bad as this one I’m sad I really wanted to hear clay talk way more than he did

[@blaqadam8710]

@@carlosalejandre9363 it's terrible how he does that. Aleast nadeshot says 'sorry to cut you off but....' then continues and so fourth, hecz not so much lol

[@355empire]

Always makes everything about himself let the kid talk

[@ITrendzI]

I think to “go pro” there needs to be a ranked mode. In league of legends the main recruit pool comes from Solo Queue. I think that’s the best way to do it along with the amateur tournaments because it’ll eliminate the “who you know”. A lot of players don’t get a chance because they don’t know who else to team with. CoD needs a ranked mode ASAP FOR EVERY GAME

[@Bayuuk]

Ernesto Sanchez wven when CoD has Ranked, like Bo4, there is a bigger emphasis on pro points/GBs/Wagers. The devs actually have to support comp and the top __ players from ranked get a chance to go to a qualifier similar to LoL, but that doesn’t happen.

[@souljayt8411]

You obviously don't know about pro points 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀

[@souljayt8411]

No pro points no being on any team buddy get to grinding those MLG pro points...

[@AsHDro1d]

Americans finally starting to understand the magic of the FA Cup in the form of Call of Duty Open bracket tournaments hahaha

[@AmericanPatriot82]

I've been waiting on this one.

[@treyroberson7296]

awe man I grew up with Clay, we used to hang out at the same apartment like 2007-2008, he was the absolute best gamer in every game we played. like he would walk in the apartment and I would give up the sticks and and let the big boys play. great guy. I still tell people I beat him one time in sudden death at super smash

[@HP-rz7ew]

I still think Advanced Warfare had the best customisation of any cod to date. They had armour rewards for ranked play, literally bronze, silver, Gold and Diamond Armour to wear and show off how good you are. PLEASE BRING THESE TYPES OF REWARDS BACK!!!

[@Simon-bg1kk]

Yeah, and ghosts too

[@superallxn3629]

MIKEE it would be lit. I would play it for like 70% of the time

[@augggiee]

i would just settle for ranked play at all at this point lol

[@johnsplan]

"massively viewed esports that people don't watch" - Hecz

[@T30BO55]

He's not wrong too

[@Edgar-ux9yj]

Read that right as Hecz said it

[@TheKing6132]

I love hecz but you gotta let the guest talk. Podcast are about natural conversations, not you getting to your talking points/questions.

[@mikec2341]

i agree

[@bighaus224]

I disagree, if you have questions that people have wanted answers to then you should be asking them. Or questions about big changes in the person's career. If it goes off on a tangent then that's fine, but structure first.

[@chickencobra3065]

Cool, so let’s have the link to your podcast then.

[@TheKing6132]

Conweezey- I’m glad you stopped posting videos. You’re trash

[@bighaus224]

@@chickencobra3065 www.wnyc.org/story/im-right-and-youre-idiot/

[@X29488]

hecz you talk too much...let the guest speak

[@sherblato9147]

💯

[@Dairy1Koda]

Its a podcast...

[@Ace22R]

H3CZ, you gotta get Dr. D or his alter ego on the podcast!

[@TheDjBenniboy]

Had the feeling Hecz talked more than Clay..

[@sherblato9147]

💯

[@geotkn5984]

BO2 Clay was honestly elite

[@rayth4386]

PONY TAIL CLAY

[@bradhatfield4255]

FAL Clay the GOATY

[@157dodgers]

Anyone remember when clay would play standing up 😂😂

[@devanteporter6981]

Cod Ghost Clayster was filthy too 🔥🔥🔥

[@russdiculous8485]

Devante Porter aw clay as well. and next is mw clay the goat AR

[@galabsp]

about damn time for another episode! gonna be listening to this on my way to work.

[@KeiranThomas1]

Everything that’s said from 50+ minutes in is so true. We seem to be asking for things that makes call of duty great to be implemented every year.

[@Futureweapon710]

Much love to clay done a lot for the community through his streams and achieved soo much throughout his career especially in the last 2 events in bo4

[@seankassner4993]

dude i really was going for Eunited to win because of him.

[@devoy82]

I'm 37 years old... Been gaming for 33 of those years pretty much everyday. I just started streaming 8 days ago, everyday I've seen growth. Clayster is right, just do it... My years of gaming and chatting with friends has developed a natural entertaining space for some to enjoy. I will stream everytime I play this decade. :) Thanks hecz and clay for the great cast.

[@welvendagreat3654]

U been gaming since u were 4 years old? Cmon man stop the bs, what did u game on In mid 80s?

[@jGasQ]

Welven Da Great you realize the NES and tons of other systems were released in the 80s right? do your research before making yourself look like a jackass next time

[@iiMiiNSaNe]

@@welvendagreat3654 L

[@nnbnnbgugyty]

Let’s go brotha, glad to hear it!

[@mariomontes8784]

@@welvendagreat3654 what you think the first gaming system was??? Haha. Bunch around then

[@sportsfan_91]

Wish he would have asked Clay about EUnited's success last year & how it felt to finally win. Also wouldn't of minded his thoughts on that substitute on Empire that got released for being stupid on stream.

[@Jflex24]

Sports Fan_91 where can i see that??

[@drefranks691]

Always got to give credit to the OG cod tubers like blametruth, xjaws, syndicate, fearcrads, sandy and so on

[@johnelliott2497]

wings and elpresador

[@dripicey9398]

Bring tjhaly on please it'll be jokes

[@Petrovinator]

One of my favorite people in the scene, been a fan since AW

[@bySeeb]

Lloyd Creevy the main reason semi autos are in the GA haha

[@mehaileyb]

Can you do a podcast with attach

[@lilhamster931]

That x games optic team got me watching comp thats why i always followed optic and clay, miss proofy

[@michaelwilliams6880]

I love Hecz, but in multiple interviews he is always speaking over the guests. Let them talk bro!

[@zandertollan7463]

Love the podcast bro! Although feel a little let down on this one.. It had huge potential as clays story/career is so unique/important to Cod but I feel he wasn’t given a chance to share his story properly which is a shame. Few topics of conversation like 6050 isn’t really necessary.

[@oGSanch]

I agree I wanted to know more about his move from FaZe and becoming a franchise player for EU maybe touch on some of the JKap stuff from last year. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the episode but, it was just talking about the state of comp COD

[@zandertollan7463]

Yeah that’s what I mean man. I feel like this would be more suited to a second podcast with clay. His story is so interesting it just felt a bit underwhelming. I’m sure they’ll do part 2 and go into it though hopefully!

[@lazarosioannidis8788]

Thank god for this comment man. I though i was going mad. I was waiting for so long to see Clay there but they didn't talk about so many things. They have to do a second one for sure. I liked it but I am so disappointed.

[@patrickhiphop3531]

Pushed it so far that business models and forecasts show a less than 5% chance at ever getting their initial ROI.

[@Suspectd]

That lonely ps4 on the table in the background

[@supaswaggerz1]

YAY CLAY IS ONE OF THE FAVS!! AN OG in the community!!

[@sonofakiwi]

Claysters AW champs is the best single champs performance in the history of cod and nobody can take that away from him

[@darrenhenderson3852]

Formal's champs on IW tends to be regarded as the best bro.

[@sonofakiwi]

@@darrenhenderson3852 oh ya lol I don't know how I forgot that. Definitely 2nd then

[@darrenhenderson3852]

@sonofakiwi I mean I'm not saying that what you said isn't true to some degree because it was amazing, but FormaL is my guy so I gotta defend his honour here lmao

[@imnavarro4]

Clay and Crim just won their THIRD Chip! Scump has ANOTHER Third Place finish. Hecz: "Shouldn't have let these guys slip through my fingers..."

[@Bar.C]

LMAO ranked tdm is already in the game its called SBMM

[@YoungWhiteMagician]

Yes! Been waiting for the episode with Clayster!

[@perrygray1000]

Hecz: Do not believe the hype! Maniac punching the air right now

[@cranberrycc6276]

odcast are so cool for the fact, Ik it’s from when I was an immature kid following optic, but I kinda hated clay for no real reason and always despised seeing him beat optic. The is podcast really showed the true side of James Eubanks.

[@BackseatGM]

This is the most brilliant podcast ive seen. Been saying this stuff for a looooong time. They trult don’t understand how damn big cod could be if they just listen to us

[@opan0maly981]

Yo! I was eating Ramen while I was listing to to this when clay said he used to eat a lot of Ramen.. lol

[@bubbleguts32]

MATT!!! You guys should make a separate clip of them talking about how to make this and future Call of Duty games better and have H3CZ get the whole CoD league retweet and share it so it possibly trends and gets the Developers to listen and make a CSGO level competitive shooter!

[@Smellysammich]

Dude it would be cool if there was like a state/province rank!

[@finleyscotty6496]

Hex man I love u and ur ideas but saying he was the first hypeman is false. I get it if ur trying to make him look good for the video but u already know who the OG hypeman is. The man who won his first ever tourney at MLG Dallas 2011. You can try to trick yourself into thinking clay being the most energy but you and I both know it Seth.

[@captus4920]

I think Black Ops is way more fun in terms of customization and over all game play. Modern Warfare is way too boring these days tbh. Looking foward to BO5.

[@cmn6772]

Rainbow 6 siege and even Rocket League, yes rocket league, have way better ranked playlists, incentives, and rewards than CoD. Do something about it CoD.

[@russdiculous8485]

clayster the goats on finally wooot

[@IsabelAnsel-y5v]

Hall Dorothy Rodriguez Sharon Lopez Eric

[@SpaceRanger187]

Or don't sell out and make them fix the game first..nope..can't do that..Money...ain t worried about no fans or the game. All talk..and Just a sellout for money and content all of you

[@400fps]

Ok so what am in missing? Champs is not a solo event and other teams have won. What about Crim and what about the others on his team when he won? Somebody break this down for me. Oh and a what about Karma? (If the comes back, duh)

[@scottyee707]

like competitive COD, but I hate the new MW, so slow/boring and old school, plus its ass to watch

[@sheltondmello8031]

This game just sucks in general. For casuals and for competitive. It's just ass

[@illeye]

OMG I heard X Games and I imminently thought of AW and seeing formal and scump clutching and calling him a sexy man... God I'm so happy I full sent with gaming and not a super deep educational life

[@Jbooth96]

How do the devs think it’s a good game? It has the chance to be a class call of duty, but not changing the shit aspects of it and sticking with them is making pros and casuals to get bored of the bullshit

[@KingdomSoldier]

THIS WAS GREAT!

[@Raatchh]

Treyarch is literally the only team to make good camos, and a good ranked play . It is unreal

[@johnnybaboon8166]

Ratch they consistently make the best games too. Infinity ward is super hit or miss, sledgehammer hasn’t had enough time to truly prove what they can do, but they have shown potential

[@EerieAppalachiaa]

Finally!!

[@andywould]

2 years later and the issues clay is talking about with MW is the same in VG…

[@TreyCarterJJ]

Clayster = legit OG. Not a lot of folks played during 08 09 pcl. RioT flatline 💪💪💪

[@reaktorleak89]

Man, if you get Joe Cecot on the show, that will be fucking crazy.

[@ed32568]

goddamn it H3CZ how am I supposed to sleep now!?

[@YungGandalf]

Is it just me or does Clay look sick or unhealthy or something?

[@Leonlldas]

Fuck yeah we got CLAYSER LETS GOOOO

[@matthewwillmeng2446]

One of my favorite players during bo2 era. The dude was insane with the snipes.

[@JamesSZN01]

It costs around $200M dollars to produce/distribute/advertise a Call of Duty title. The CDL is worth over $300M, so the fact that CDL support or even a ranked playlist isn't in the game is just pure disrespect from IW to the CDL community and fans. It's disgusting, distasteful, and inexcusable the lack of competitive support in MW.

[@reaktorleak89]

What Clay is saying about Pro Player input throughout the development cycle really makes me want to give that a shot, and see just how different an FPS can be if it’s competitive and truly skill based by design. Gentlemen Agreements should be a thing of the past, and would never fly in traditional major league sports.

[@sartyy2069]

Damn bro I can’t wait to watch this all the way through, I’ve been waiting for this one.

[@Jbooth96]

I love ranked play last year! It stops the game being boring after the first few months! Going for camos isn’t fun anymore... 55 challenges wow that’s so fun 🥴 PUT RANKED IN

[@millsy3192]

Wait fuck I gotta sleep but imma watch this tomorrow

[@kingdabbiedurke7017]

Crazy now he has 3 rings and shotzzy is considered one of the best

[@espacespr6557]

Bro Hecz doesn’t let his guests talk is so fkn annoying

[@mattkarpowicz7529]

Hi I'm here from the future...Shottzy worked out...

[@602jesse]

What he said about IW is sad but true. Can't wait for announcers during the pro matches to be like and we have CLAY with a 5 piece.... Oh the other team spawned on him again... Announcer not wanting IW to yell at them..... If you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all. Announcer oh yea those spawns thats something right?

[@bighaus224]

Regarding the topic of the CDL having all of these influential people giving them ideas of how tournaments should be run I.e. HECZ, Gastro, Spencer from MLG, multiple other people... My issue is then how did the God awful initial schedule get released in the first place? Who and why did they decide to rush the crappy format and weekend events out in the first place for a multi million dollar league in its first year where it could very easily make or break it? It's thing like these that all add up and have the fans worried about the future of CDL.

[@FeeLtheHertZ]

Hecz lets him talk, this is a podcast not a scripted interview. They're both thinkers and passionate talkers, and he's very humble when 'need' be - 42:50 and on. Great *podcast* Hecz! Clayster's the dude, very high-functioning.

[@emperorpalpatine6500]

Hecz is so annoying he won’t shut up and let his guest talk

[@Daraka.]

It's like a bad season of an otherwise good TV series. They recast Dead Silence as a field upgrade instead of a perk, and didn't include the Ranked and Battle Royale storylines. I'm guessing their writers worked on the last season of Game of Thrones.

[@padawan5639]

Hyped for this one😤

[@christianbird5271]

This was about a month before the rain down that was Covid

[@darwincajamarca1189]

THE ONE IVE BEEN WAITING FOR HOLY!!!! BUT SO UNANNOUNCED

[@dstrbdtanker3554]

Hecz. Do you think there will ever be a draft like in other pro sports? It seems like having a draft system is something that will be needed. I'm not suggesting a lot of people need to be drafted, but seems like there could be good potential for this. A lot of colleges are offering scholarships for E-Sports, and I have noticed high schools starting to offer it as a lettered sport.

[@toocoolbros7214]

Clayster always has good insight!

[@walleye14]

Use my comment as a thumbs up.

[@CAPITALSTEEEEZ]

Been waiting so long for this

[@mariomontes8784]

I'll add to the rest of the comments saying it. Constructive Criticism Hecz. Let the guest speak

[@stevewavy4234]

Cod needs to use the Csgo format, have a hyper competitive esports type game and allow companies like esea and face it but also have their own competitive ranking etc

[@itsbyfool]

Lol it was my dream to live in a team house at one point😂

[@noahraymond244]

Everything clay said about the Devs was 100% dead on wow. He hit everything on the head about this year, yeesh.

[@bigpoppaliciousx]

Why you gotta throw Bob under the bus!!!

[@BW-mz8ob]

love the vids

[@austinc.7680]

Get Sharp on the podcast!

[@carlosalejandre9363]

12hz this game is running on 12hz no rank play, no battle royal, what are we actually playing

[@tsleeziii4435]

When clayster said that they aremt goingnto gt that real im grwoing up and youre watching my grow up i felt that xause i watched them since my 8th grade year lol and im about to be 24 now

[@chuchu]

you cant even prestige anymore, they took it out cause... why would you want replay value.

[@jasoncrandell759]

It's not that we forget the devs are people too it the devs forget how to program and consistently make the same mistakes over and over again.