CLAYSTER REVEALS WHY CRIMSIX DROPPED HIM 3 TIMES, AND WHEN HE'S RETIRING?!

Clayster has been in the GOAT discussion for a while but how did he get here? Merk and Maven are back with another episode to talk with Clay about his pro Call of Duty career, the Complexity dynasty, playing with Crimsix, and when he's going to retire!
Toronto Ultra - The Merk and Maven Podcast | Season 2 | Episode 4
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0:00 - Intro
3:44 - How did Clayster get into CoD?
6:15 - OG Competitive days
8:20 - Clayster got Banned TWICE?!
10:55 - MW2-MW3 competitive season
13:47 - Ponytail Clay was next level
15:50 - BO2 Champs Roster
19:31 - Complexity Dynasty
22:50 - Getting dropped for Karma
26:12 - Struggling to find a team
42:36 - Winning Champs back to back
43:40 - Getting dropped again by Empire
46:15 - Going to NYSL
48:15 - Going back to the pit
49:44 - Getting dropped by porter 3 times (clip)
58:50 - Building Las Vegas Legion
1:02:15 - Dynamic with Temp
1:04:20 - How to help the worst team
1:07:05 - Emotional Major I
1:08:53 - Adding Nagafen to coach
1:13:01 - Legion Roster change again
1:18:25 - Losing Control in Control
1:21:05 - SnD concerns?
1:24:10- Stage IV Schedule
1:26:55 - What’s next after CDL?
1:29:31 - Community Questions
1:34:35 - Where can you find Clayster?
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[@TorontoUltra]

Who is the Call of Duty GOAT and why?

[@lil_tistic]

crim: timespan, winnings. clay is arguably higher on the “esports legends” list though.

[@rznbl1992]

If clay wins champs its not up for debate, he's the goat

[@rznbl1992]

But BigT will always be my goat

[@bobbyatlas674]

Karma 3 lan rings

[@krispyquam5713]

Karma or Crim. So debatable.

[@Sullicities]

Finally a podcast with Clay. That's my GOAT.

[@TorontoUltra]

He truly is the peoples champ!

[@Sullicities]

@@TorontoUltra yessir

[@tony55833]

KARMA>>>>>

[@Dynamic0NE]

Are you Hydra's brother Hydro?

[@edgarrocha1132]

Clayster is my favorite pro player ever

[@TorontoUltra]

Definitely one of the greatest ever 💪

[@Dynamic0NE]

Grayster?

[@samcherry8417]

I agree and it’s insane how people don’t like him he’s good has an amazing mind for the game and his passion is only match by doug also everyone loves a underdog and he’s a goat but has never been favored I’d rather see my favored

[@Douugg14]

It’s a shame Merk and Maven don’t have more of a spot in the CDL. Thankful for Ultra for giving them more FaceTime in this scene.

[@BustahScruggz]

Clayster gets thrown to the wolves and always comes back leading the pack 😎 🐺

[@BHam222]

I could listen to Joe and Clay talk for hours!!! MerK being nice and not letting ‘em know who won that first CoD XP event 😏

[@sw01130]

Guests have been great as of the past few episodes. Good work as always

[@Mizaruu]

Clay has a ring from every cod developer it’s crazy people still doubt him

[@Zaaafty]

Been waiting for an episode like this for time.

[@thatguyskittlz]

Holy shit this the whole beginning of clays story is literally the start of my passion for competitive call of duty. That’s crazy! If I didn’t mess my life up I think I could have been along side you man good shit

[@brycearceneaux9685]

Thank you clay for coming on. This was much needed content out of you. 🙏🙏

[@jamessmith4843]

By far my favourite player to listen to talk. What a guy.

[@Amoloc.]

Listening to this while playing Diablo beta on my day off was exactly what I needed, thanks y’all

[@Snuffsss]

Would love to see Clay coach after his career, the spirit and composure this guy brings on game day is unmatched.

[@andrewwinningham9817]

Great episode boys! Gotta love Clay man dude has had the craziest career ever

[@playaself1071]

That was the most honest interview ive ever heard I love these 3

[@multeyemeteor]

Man, I love Clay. Merk and Clay are two of my very favorite CoD personalities, so this was a treat.

[@mrbrunchies3048]

It was crazy because I saw Clayster on campus back in Morgantown back in 2009 when I first started following professional COD. Unreal that I’ve followed this crazy career of the ultimate COD hype man.

[@yvdmatt]

This is becoming my favourite podcast no question! KEEP GOING PLZ!

[@7ooLeY]

I'm an OpTic fan but I must admit, I've always had love for Clay. Legendary personality and player. One of the greats. I can't speak for everyone but I always have my team I support/die-hard for and then, that one team that you wish well, this year for me, it's Legion and Clay 👌

[@protocolcallofduty]

I hope they keep this show going the culture needs it. We need more shows to support the league

[@robertmitchell5861]

Great podcast boys! Joe and maven iconic duo with an iconic player! Keep up the good work 👏🏻

[@MattSmith-de9su]

Watching Clay play at the Toronto challengers tournament was magical

[@andrewtrowbridge]

Great content guys

[@Spot67124]

Clay ya was always one of my favorites. I am a complexity og and was cheering for you during denial and faze times.

[@l.lawliet1838]

I want to see clay win one more ring. I’m going to be rooting for Paris so hard.

[@ah_helou2845]

Paris😂😂😂😂

[@pittabreadchicken7926]

You mean Vegas legion lol

[@thannydevitos2332]

Brother that is a stretch on this squad

[@atake_plays7784]

@@thannydevitos2332 idk they looked good even with 2real trying to throw and temp and clay have actully been frying also tj has been really solid this year if standy comes in and fits it could be a scary squad

[@thannydevitos2332]

@@atake_plays7784 you're not going to win shit without control and they're god awful at it, and the other top teams are just better at the other 2 game modes

[@krispyquam5713]

Great guest can’t wait to watch clay Eubanks is a fkn CoD classic. Well spoken good head on his shoulders and passionate as anyone else

[@byJayzik]

MY GOAT

[@qwwupp4763]

My goat 🥺

[@aKa_HammY]

Clay is my goat! been following him since bo2

[@themicrogrowguy]

Loved this one! Clay has a good vibe

[@christianbird5271]

I love clay so much. He’s been amazing for so long

[@RAZ8CAR]

W podcast. We love Clay 🤍🫶🏻

[@lil_tistic]

absolute legend of esports

[@vexify4630]

One of the best episodes ever

[@thegrandestperson]

More and more interviews please!!!!!!!!!

[@mmorphy4258]

After listening I appreciate Clay way more and what he’s made of his career.

[@rayth4386]

loved seeing clay on this episode

[@HenriTrades]

Clay is one of the only people who can match the vibeyness of the Merk and Maven duo

[@NovaSixx]

Maven & Merk are goats for this podcast. These are the type of questions I've been wanting people to ask. Usually the people hosting the podcasts have too much of a ego and arent really fans of the players bc they're players themselves so it's a weird dynamic.

[@TheNERVO1987]

Just the GOAT

[@crazymendezgaming]

Respect Clay your a beast!

[@connorwatt507]

YESSSS CLAY 🐐🐐🐐

[@Maximum_37]

Everyone loves clayster and great interview

[@joshuamarc8773]

Clay is definitely one of my favorite guys in the league.. I wish he would have had another year with scump :D I liked them teaming together.

[@PRODJUN]

JEEEZE GRAYSTER. 🏆💪🏾

[@KanasKleanouts]

You gotta think…. Clayster being able to bring Legion from zero to contenders might make him the greatest CoD pro when everything is taken into consideration other than maybe scump. (Especially if we’re talking just the old heads) The wins, the length of career, the iconic moments, and his ability to elevate the team he’s on… just might be enough to push him ahead Crim.

[@kieranwatt1937]

how cn you compare scump to clay as greatest cod pro? scump only really starting winning actually events when crim/karma/formal came to save the day. clays been winning for a long time, and has won several champs and changed entire teams after getting dropped. scump hasn't done any of that, he's always been protected by Optic so he's never had to go elsewhere to do anything. crim/karma sure, but scumps not in that convo

[@KanasKleanouts]

@@kieranwatt1937 cool

[@adolfBBC]

Clay is the actual goat. Him and Damon both had to do alot more than the status quo

[@jasonarmstrong9656]

@@kieranwatt1937 alright man im not just going to let you lie. mw3 before the dynasty optic ran that game. bo1 he won events in before joining optic for mw3. won in bo2 and ghosts with nadeshot, proofy, clay, bigt and merk. none of those are terrible players but cmon. absolutley no disrespect to clay one of the goats a worldclass person just a great guy competitor everything. however clay joined the col trio which became a dynasty then that team dropped him for karma and col continued winning. he won a bunch in aw then went winless for 4 years with 2 prestigious orgs. he didnt win an event until eu got simp. and he won in mw. he was a great player in all those teams but scump was typically t1 or 2 player of every team he was on. won with or without any of the dynasty players. if he stay loyal to optic and joined col when he had the chance hed be unanimous goat. scumps career is just as long as clayster while running smg.

[@kieranwatt1937]

@@jasonarmstrong9656 He won in ghosts with x games, and do you remember what the prize pool for that event was? I'll remind you. IT WAS ZERO. The teams were hand picked to join, the next event was anahiem and coL knocked them out and went on to win it i believe. Scumps best placing before jetpack cod/crim/formal/karmsa was T3A WITH boze, nade and CLAYSTER. That's the best placing he's ever had on BOTG COD. Clay has been dropped and went and built a winning team, scumps never had to do that once,. BO1 was so long ago you do realise that? the competition/ceiling for skill was so poor back then - there's a reason he struggled the last few years to win anything when the goats the dynasty. Also MW3 they won the event playing with heartbeat censors and it was like within a week or 2 of the game being out lol...

[@StevenGTW]

So crazy how I used watched these guys compete against each other in bo2

[@StevenGTW]

Knowing clay was about to out m8 merk

[@elliotkirkpatrick8466]

Now this is content

[@Seven3o5]

Clay is such a good personality

[@CookieFirsko]

LEGION IS EVERYONES DARK HORSE FOR CHAMPS BRO, WE LOVE CLAY AND THE BOYS, PLUS STANDYS REVENGE TOUR

[@nouhhmmm]

Amazing fucking podcast shoutout clayster the greatest to ever do it

[@rezkin4073]

Fucking love Clay man, not a single player in the league that cares about it as much as he does

[@itsnotjayboi]

we need a call of duty hall of fame bc the three in this vid gotta be on the ballot

[@adamcogan211]

Clay is the goat!

[@cptobvious1228]

Grayster ❤

[@justinrivera2458]

Clay is really the goat bro

[@Papamoog]

Goat

[@i2wallace21]

55:00 this is why clay the goat to me ong

[@tylerparent1291]

We love Clay! Make champs Vegas, it’s not the same without clay 😢

[@Lemon8id]

Having a ringer was crazy times

[@GaryDoom]

11:58 what game did maven start playin diablo res?

[@StevenGTW]

Bro I’ve been watching clay since black ops 2 and I’ll always remember how he would dominate games because no one could touch him with that m8

[@ParadoxX-lt1vu]

Clay da goat

[@sike917]

crimsix dropped clayster 3 times and they both have 3 world championships rings!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@hdotizzle]

💜

[@jayr124589]

What people don’t understand cod4 changed call of duty for every cod after. The hype around cod4 was similar to when warzone dropped but on steroids. COD made a name for itself similar to the halo and gears and we haven’t looked back since

[@kieranwatt1937]

I never played any online game before, saw my friends dad playing it and talking to people and i was like wtfff he's chatting to people from America and it's like real people he's shooting. I was hooked ever since then, but WAW is what pulled me in and then OFC MW2 dropped and it changed COD forever. the first trailer for when MW2 released i had legit goosebumps

[@jayr124589]

@@kieranwatt1937 I played ghost recon advanced warfare as my first multiplayer game which I loved but once I played cod4 at my friends house I was hooked. Started grinding GB got good enough where I would level up accounts and sell them for Microsoft points so nerds can say they had a low GB rank in the forums and get on a good team… the good days

[@MrKFD_92]

Clay is a goat

[@LiveLuckyGaming]

I MISS CLAYSTER AND CROWSTER

[@LilCharlie9488]

Turn on dark mode or turn on the orange filter on your computer so you don’t get flash banged

[@vodka4680]

The peoples champ!! the only one with a GOAT case not from the optic dynasty btw

[@jasonarmstrong9656]

abe and simp are up there too now.

[@leedocherty477]

Watched the full thing. Clay, Kids, Wife - in that order

[@Rupture28]

10:16 how you get unbanned? I was banned on GB a year ago for nothing and I’ve gotten no help :(

[@ilyasaden2900]

Damn, they didn't talk about the Optic stint?????

[@Vinseenit]

Want to see Clay have more success so I can proudly call him the goat over that snake Crimsix

[@yellowtoblerone]

W

[@carlosduran9673]

Clay was so much better than Crim at MW man. Should never have been dropped.

[@rznbl1992]

HIMSTER

[@nylepentik2696]

I swear someone is listening to something in the background at certain points.

[@saulslinkontwitch]

this convo is the reason why i dont feel bad for crimsix or aches. they have always been the scumbags. they did anything and everything to step on people.

[@mkwsoxfan]

Optic with clay had a chance to send Complexity to the losers bracket and lock in top seed at ghosts champs if they hold a 14 point Sov dom lead at the half! Call me crazy, but the scump/clay hype if they were the team to come out of winners bracket might have been enough to have them win champs that year. Throw your "CoL had 4 guys over a 1.2 KD" stats out the window, clay comes different in grudge matches, those pool play inflated K/ds were about to get exposed if optic puts CoL down in the winners finals

[@jasonarmstrong9656]

mboze had a worldclass disaster class to throw that series him and nade. god that one still doesnt sit right. optic couldve definitley won another bo5 in gf if they came from winners. scump was such a hard carry at that game.

[@mkwsoxfan]

@@jasonarmstrong9656 he was solid at SnD and tbh the only way that team was winning against CoL was through clutch Snd, OR a scump 40 bomb in Dom. Series still haunts me seeing what at the time was a convincing lead going into the half, followed by a collapse on Sov, followed by a 6-0 on warhawk. Reliving my nightmare

[@jacobm4337]

Nah Crim did him so dirty in Vanguard. Talked so much shit about him while Clay was just chilling on the bench. Was really bad.

[@Sullicities]

Crowster hahahaha

[@Range_45]

That ponytail just looks like it stinks

[@hellointernet1307]

whos watching videos in the call during the podcast wtf so unprofessional

[@bkub1111]

Man! Maven is so distracting to me. He has ADHD or something. Constantly moving around and doesn’t engage. I like this format and enjoy listening to the pros, but this guy is just too much. I won’t be tuning in again.

[@chanchoTV]

Great episode but nah clay biggest sore loser ever

[@dylancallahan4220]

? Weirdo

[@PlugChuckers]

The ponytail is like when the beatles took LSD and grew moustaches, good shit came from it bro!

[@PlugChuckers]

MJ is an extremely popular choice for GOAT of NBA, but if I got to create a team of any players, he doesn't make my team. Same goes for crim and scump, they aren't making my dream team (for different reasons, none of which are gunskill/mechanics, same with MJ and his ability to score/dominate,) as it's not about an individuals skill or accolades, it's a team game. Clay is my goat, been saying it for years, he does more with less. Gave a lot of the best players some sleepless nights, tossing and turning, "He can't keep getting away with this!"

[@PlugChuckers]

Also, people would be surprised to learn how many of the current GOATs of professional sports have what Phil Jackson was to MJ(well bulls and the lakers), a sports psychologist. Doubt he wins back to back to back - and back to back to back, without Phil being an eastern philosophy and other soul fulfilling ideologies lover ie: the zen master; helping them understand that you can only control what you can control, how to manage not only the ego but also the self doubt that comes with losing, and other stuff like being upset about a bad play that just happened doesn't change that play and playing the blame game during competition doesn't help anyone but the opponent, clear your mind and focus up! Especially in this christian dominated country of worshipping kings and popes and presidents and "alpha males" - wanting to make mountainous mythological deities out of people that are just human beings, that constant ego stroking can corrupt and poison your mind, look at that trump fella --- head so far up his own behind he can smell his tonsils -- and people keep on willingly feeding into the delusion which is getting worse and worse.