Clean Fuel Filler Door Seal and Filler Neck for All Capless Filler Neck Equipped Cars and Trucks

[@StilesAutomotive]

Just a quick note about the video - - You have to open the Flapper Valve (the little automatic door) and clean the mating surface. This video shows you how. Cleaning the outside is good, but the point of this video is to clean that inside valve that make a vacuum seal to prevent OBDII fault codes! I hope this is helpful - Stiles

[@msd7782]

Great tip! Thank you!

[@TheChenny73]

I’m thinking I might start carrying a rag or wipes to ensure pump nozzle is clean prior to fueling. I can see how dust could collect on a nozzle at a fueling station.

[@secondarycontainment4727]

New to capless. Im experiencing a P1450 unable to bleed up. I have seen videos of WD40 sprayed and then using the funnel to actuate the flap multiple times. But this is the first I've seen showing you can keep the flap open and clean the inner mating surface. Thank you! I hope this clears my code!

[@donbratton]

You actually CLEAN THE FLAP INSIDE? Tell us WHY you do that? I would first check your turn signal fluid. Make sure you use the correct OEM OIL.

[@secondarycontainment4727]

@@donbratton Hey dip, he specifically told you why. The car's computer checks the pressure there. An imbalance can throw the system out of whack. Do you understand that we aren't looking at a horse's rear end and instead an orifice of a machine that needs more than hay to run properly? To your question of WHY - the car will check vacuum there. If the vacuum is not correct it will not pass tests. If it doesn't pass tests then in many locations you can't get your car registered. If you can't get it registered, then you can't get it insured. If you can't get it insured, then you can't drive it on the road. An easy way to avoid all these problems is to CLEAN THE FLAP, tardo.

[@tomtransport]

Never thought about cleaning that area. Seems like a good idea. Thanks for the tip.

[@StilesAutomotive]

I know! Most people don't, I think. I don't clean mine as often as I would like. At the start of the video, that was dirtier than I like to see it. As always, thanks for the positive comments - Stiles

[@donbratton]

.... and you shouldn’t. I would put a coat of oil on your windshield wipers so they operate smoothly and without a squeak.

[@TheChenny73]

I didn’t realize that the actual door had a seal for the system!! My light was always going on or off after fueling. My door seal was just dirty. I cleaned everything and put a light silicone grease on the actual door seal.

[@StilesAutomotive]

Nova, Yep, now that you know it needs to be cleaned, you'll probably clean it all of the time. You should at least clean it periodically. I appreciate the comment! - Stiles

[@TheChenny73]

@@StilesAutomotive I found a expanding rubber pipe plug. I now use this to seal the capless system from venting. Crazy how I have to use something like this because the engineers at Chrysler can’t making a capless system that seals.

[@StilesAutomotive]

@@TheChenny73 I know Ford has a Locking Plug, to make it like a Locking Gas Cap, but I don't know if it seals or not. This also would be worth investigating. You may help someone in the future (and may be me), could you put the information on your Rubber Pipe Plug here? Put Manufacturer, Part Number and Size information, here? Thanks - Stiles

[@YahChose]

You are a good soul stiles. -Railey

[@StilesAutomotive]

Railey, I appreciate the comment! - Stiles

[@marsflee3815]

WD-40 ends up drying up parts. You need to use silicone pray- which is great for rubber & plastic. (FYI) Thanks for the video.

[@StilesAutomotive]

Mars, Yes, True, other Sprays may be better for this application, however, I replied to someone else with this, which I still stand by . . . . . . . , although WD-40 is not the best lubricant for plastic, it is a good lubricant, and I use it for its cleaning properties on plastic all of the time. The WD-40 website states, "It is 50-state VOC compliant and safe to use on metal, rubber and plastic parts....And it’s safe for use on a variety of surfaces; including rubber, plastic, vinyl, and metal" WD-40 is a petroleum based lubricant and will not affect most general use plastics such as PVC , PP, HDPE or ABS. Avoid using a petroleum-based products like WD-40 Multi-Use on polycarbonate and clear polystyrene plastic. Lubricants with silicone or PTFE (polytetrafluoroethylene) are best for use on plastic surfaces. You are welcome, Thanks for the comment! - Stiles

[@nevadaboy9769]

@@StilesAutomotive You cant always believe the 50 state compliant warnings, for example i live in Nevada & anytime im going to cross the border into California i leave my CRC BRAKLEEN at home because it states right on the warning label that this product has been known to cause Cancer to ppl in California so as long as i leave or use it in Nevada i got nothing to worry about lol wtf

[@michealnelson5179]

@@StilesAutomotive when I worked in a "Car Area" parts store, the company magazine had an article by WD about the 40. They said it was 6 types of silicon + lanolin. So mostly synthetic from petroleum. That was 10 years ago. Who knows if true?

[@vvatc]

I was having trouble with the gas pump shutting off after getting less than a gallon of gas into the tank. Tried cleaning up the filler neck like you suggested but without using Armor All or WD40. I just used a damp ramp and wiped it all down. Then I used a small amount of oil and rubbed it around just inside the flapper. Seems to work. Now I don't have to stand at the gas pump and continuously pull the lever like an animal.

[@StilesAutomotive]

Glad it helped! Plan to do your wipe down and a little oil periodically. Thanks for the comment! - Stiles

[@tracieclarke4323]

Sir, thank you so much for posting this awesome video. Our 16 Jeep Grand Cherokee is throwing evap codes and this is the cheapest way to start my hunt for what may be causing them. Hopefully it's just dirty and a good cleaning will help.❤

[@StilesAutomotive]

Tracie, Yep this video may help, there are other reason for the Fault Codes, like Hose and Line leak (normally) under the Hood in the Engine Compartment, but this is an easy place to start and something you should do periodically anyway! - Stiles

[@jamesgreenman7463]

Worked great.

[@StilesAutomotive]

James, Very good! Plan to do it periodically. I appreciate the comment! - Stiles

[@robertjakubowdhki3621]

Thank you great help

[@StilesAutomotive]

Robert, I appreciate the feedback! - Stiles

[@harryjames9172]

I’ll have to try that

[@StilesAutomotive]

Harry, You need to, and clean the filler Neck periodically! - Stiles

[@JohnAnderson4242]

I got this system on my 2018 f-150 - got a check engine light, I think this is it. Seals the pressure.

[@StilesAutomotive]

John, You need to use a Code Reader and determine the OBDII Fault Code. Yep, there are other for this emissions fault, but this is the likely cause. - Stiles

[@JohnAnderson4242]

@@StilesAutomotive Yep I did that, and got P0183 - Engine fuel temperature sensor, not working. Found the sensor, and a damn squirrel or a mouse chewed two of the wires! I was able to repair the wires and clear the code! Now I'm on squirrel patrol!

[@sq.c8916]

Thank you ❤

[@StilesAutomotive]

You are very welcome, I appreciate the feedback! - Stiles

[@billmonroe8826]

So, you think a gas cap is redundant but this hastle of cleaning isnt' a bigger pain in the ass? And engineer that came up with this idea should be fired on the spot!

[@StilesAutomotive]

Bill, I the kind of guy that put a switch on my closet door so I don't have to flip a light switch, I open the closet door and the light comes on. See video - - Shop Tip No. 4 - Stop Repetitive Tasks, Radio on with Overhead Lights kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmecaqN6pJ1gj8U But . . . when you do something like this Fuel Neck you have to look at the long-term effects. Thanks for the comment. - Stiles

[@donbratton]

Yes, you have to clean it every night!! It’s a royal pain. Be sure YOU don’t buy one. Everyone will laugh at you.

[@logloader9247]

I totally agree with you

[@m.e.9974]

This novel idiotic design will be discontinued,watch a see.

[@macker0077]

My 2011 Mustang Shelby GT500 check engine light came on and when I used an OBD2 code reader is had a diag. code 0456. I cleaned the capless filler area, ,used WD40 around the filler hole/flap and then used the nozzle from the gas pump to go in/out several times. Cleared the code and haven't had it come back so assume the problem was the filler flap not closing properly due to dirt/grime.

[@StilesAutomotive]

Macker, Our Capless Filler Necks are getting old enough now, I expect many, many vehicles will have problems with them. I'm glad it helped in your case! i appreciate the comment. - Stiles

[@thayerparrish1480]

Great video and thorough. Thank you.

[@StilesAutomotive]

You are welcome! - Stiles

[@migdaliapadilla3587]

Excellent. Thanks a lot.

[@StilesAutomotive]

Migdalia, You are welcome! - Stiles

[@josecomparan2426]

Exelent video,thanks..👍👍👍

[@StilesAutomotive]

Jose, I appreciate the feedback! - Stiles

[@hectororellana3397]

WD 40 is a good idea, I would also use a rag soaked in diesel, it makes a good lubricant, same with brake fluid, I use brake fluid to remove rusty bolts and nuts, it works great.

[@StilesAutomotive]

Hector, Yes, Diesel Fuel is a good idea, it similar to WD40. But, Brake Fluid you have to be careful with, it is so hard on the Paint. I appreciate the comment, hope it will help other readers. - Stiles

[@rdisneyandcentralfloridali4849]

I have read that wd40 is great for the first 2 days but then dries things up too much and also is not supposed to be mixed with the gas. Some people I see on these videos actually spray wd40 on the outside of the white funnel and push that in and out of the tank multiple times. That seems like it would mix with the gas and cause problems? Can you speak to that. Also if you suspect hinges are stuck a git, can you put oil on the funnel and push that in and out too? I don't want to sound like a stereotyped woman but I am really nervous to do this and we have been dealing with stall on gas up only and P0496 and suspect very much it is the capless area doing it. We suspect the flapper is allowing too much air in on our Ford Fusion 2020. Remote start is fine and smooth so clearly it is something only on the hinges that involve gas up. Any help would be so very appreciated! Thanks.

[@jonnyboat2]

This may be the cause of my P0456 code that just occurred. Small leak. The parts store said it’s probably the gas cap.

[@StilesAutomotive]

Yes, this is the most likely problem. It could be other things, but it is very easy to clean/lube the Flapper Valve. Let me know if this fixes the issue! - Good Luck with your problem - Stiles

[@jonnyboat2]

Stiles Automotive I looked at the fuel filler neck and opening on my 03 Camry and it doesn’t have that flapper. It just has a cap. The neck is just an open pipe. I’ll replace the cap. If that doesn’t work, I’ll check the vacuum lines and then the valves.

[@StilesAutomotive]

@@jonnyboat2 Your Camry Cap is around $5.00 on the Rock Auto.com website. I'd bet almost all of the retail auto parts stores have your cap instock for under $10.00. If I were you, I'd replace the cap. Yes, check vacuum lines, and check all of the lines connected to your fuel tank. Look at your fuel tank on the Rock Auto.com website, you have a number of connections/penetrations on your tank.

[@DIYunpolished]

I gotta do some foreplay action with my fusion! Lol

[@StilesAutomotive]

Ok, Cody, keep it clean, both your Fuel Filler Neck and the comments! You remind me of an old friend that has a '70 Boss 302, the way he would talk about his rear quarter panels and touch that Mustang! All for the love of cars! I hope you take care of yours and hope the video helped you! Thanks for the comment! - Stiles

[@DIYunpolished]

I gotta say, it helped a few on the Ford fusion group on Facebook. Codes related to the cap less fuel tank. Flaps like to stay open and egr gets effected apparently. Good way to twiddle your car and lube the hole while clearing some codes...... Ahhhhh yeahhh

[@StilesAutomotive]

I remembered last night the Boss is a '70 Mustang, originally I said '69. Glad it could help people, as our cars (and light trucks) get older, this is going to be a common problem. - Stiles

[@newsgetsold]

Recently bought a 2009 Ford but was worried it was missing the fuel cap. But this makes me realise it has none.

[@StilesAutomotive]

Yep, think of the millions . . . or at least thousands of times in a lifetime, you unscrew that Fuel Cap. I love the idea, it is just a matter of keeping it clean and maintaining it. Best of luck with the 2009, I wish you many miles! - Stiles

[@tims6246]

got code p0446 - 2019 f150 with just 18 k miles on it. will attempt this method - and see what happens.. Was life simpler - when we just had a 1966 f150 - with none of these great fail safes - and warning lights - i'm starting to think so.

[@StilesAutomotive]

Tim, Yes, true, but we are almost to the point were the Car will tell us what is wrong and how to fix it. - Stiles

[@dixiedewful]

They are absolutely terrible. after a recent rain I opened the fuel door and observed water pooled on top of the trap door. I had to blot it out with a dry paper towel trying not to push against the trap door. There is no telling how much water has penetrated the trap door.

[@StilesAutomotive]

Dixie, There are now 10s of Millions of these on the road. My Mustang is 11 years old. I hope I'm wrong, but I expect this to be a big issue in the next 5 to 10 years. - Stiles

[@emmittcarter6816]

I haven't try it yet hope it helps gas door light goes out will let you know if it works

[@StilesAutomotive]

Emmitt, Make sure your Flapper Door springs back into place well and both mating surfaces feel smooth and you clean them well. Yep, let me know how it goes for you! - Stiles

[@donbratton]

Yes?? you need to tape the light switch to “off"

[@mikelow4374]

Just got a 2010 Fiesta a couple days ago.. used half a tank in about 120kms!! Went to gas and was shocked to see this crap..thought at first was missing the cap .. i could smell the gas evaporating so badly.. hopefully this will help but it seems the flap doesn't always close tightly.. and way of replacing this garbage with a standard fuel cap?

[@StilesAutomotive]

Mike, Yep, I bet you could replace your Fuel Filter Neck with and earlier version that uses a Cap, be careful, on the Mustang I believe Ford changed the Fuel Tank(s). "If there is a will, there is a way!" You and your Parts Guy, need to determine if the interface points are the same, ie. the Fuel Tank and the top of the Filler Neck. Here is an idea! I haven't used one before and I don't know if it seals, but you could try a "Locking Fuel Filler Plug", I don't see one for the 2010 Fiesta on the Ford Parts Website, but Ford or Aftermarket may have one. Below is the Ford Parts information for a 2009 to 2010 Mustang. - Stiles 9C268 - Locking Fuel Filler Plug Filler Plug Part#: 8U5Z9C268B Usages: 02/26/2009 - 03/15/2010, Mustang (2005/), 4.0L V6 12V SOHC EFI In stock for pickup at dealership, or will ship next business day

[@donbratton]

Im ust not gullible enough, but II know people like you are out there

[@steveroeder5361]

I will stay with a cap. Nothing to stop anyone from putting something in the tank.

[@StilesAutomotive]

Steve, I'm with you! There is a Locking Plug from Ford Motorcraft (and probably others, like Stant) that would keep would be, theives, pranksters, and terrorizers out of your Gas Tank. That kinda defeats the purpose of the Capless Filler Neck, but you have to do what you have to do! - Stiles

[@theonerealgreenman]

Does anyone think about using the stuff they make or do they just put lego together if it holds together its good to go? Try out the product beforehand. For if you need a thinker give me a call. Im just sitting here i need something to do.

[@StilesAutomotive]

The Man, Yes, I think they do, but somethings are not made for every situation or person. - Stiles

[@topgunablek]

Wd40 should never lubricants rubber or plastic

[@StilesAutomotive]

Huilin lI, Don't say never, although WD-40 is not the best lubricant for plastic, it is a good lubricant, and I use it for its cleaning properties on plastic all of the time. The WD-40 website states, "It is 50-state VOC compliant and safe to use on metal, rubber and plastic parts....And it’s safe for use on a variety of surfaces; including rubber, plastic, vinyl, and metal" WD-40 is a petroleum based lubricant and will not affect most general use plastics such as PVC , PP, HDPE or ABS. Avoid using a petroleum-based products like WD-40 Multi-Use on polycarbonate and clear polystyrene plastic. Lubricants with silicone or PTFE (polytetrafluoroethylene) are best for use on plastic surfaces. Thanks for the comment! - Stiles

[@jeevespreston]

As endorsement for preventative maintenance, the fuel filler neck is a one-piece design and the replacement part alone, without labor, is $340!!!

[@StilesAutomotive]

Jeeves, Did you do it or have the replacement done? And I wonder if it was really necessary. As our Cars get older, it will become necessary and expensive for us! I appreciate the comment! - Stiles

[@jeevespreston]

@@StilesAutomotive thanks, I am right in the middle of the issue. Car has 60k miles, and has had a fairly tame life so far. trying some of these preventative maintenance ideas first such as yours, to see if I can avoid the official repair. We’ll see how it goes…

[@StilesAutomotive]

@@jeevespreston ok, very good - Stiles

[@jeevespreston4740]

@@StilesAutomotive also found out on the FordForums, that the emissions warranty is 80k miles, so the repair MAY be covered by Ford for some folks?

[@martinlang9615]

Another reason why I want to get it converted to a standard non mechanical filler on our 2014 diesel Honda CRV. I fear it failing at the worst possible time. Stupid invention. Fine for race cars, but not Mums and Dads. I know this was an attempt to prevent mis fueling, that was the idea of it.

[@aragwhisky]

This is so bad idea what Ford doing, I never had problem with other cars, just close gas tank with cap and thats it, hate my ford fusion have to clean this area every week now

[@StilesAutomotive]

Arag, I'm with you, I like the idea of removing a step, but the execution . . . . I appreciate the comment! - Stiles

[@donbratton]

Sell baby SELL, Buy an electric car. They work without gas.

[@Darthyankee13]

Can this code cause your vehicle to struggle to start sometimes and say act like it's going to stall while sitting idle?

[@StilesAutomotive]

Josh, Yes, but make sure you check the OBDII Fault Code and Troubleshoot the correct Fault. Other things can cause those problems too! - Stiles

[@donbratton]

Yes, the car manufacturers can’t figure it out.

[@ericcraig3809]

Do you have to use the fuel tunnel???

[@StilesAutomotive]

Yes, you do. The Fuel Funnel that comes from the OEM with the car is the correct diameter to open the Flapper Valve by hitting the two little black Taps. Or you could use some object of the same diameter. You should have the Funnel in your Spare Tire Well of the Trunk, why not use it? - Stiles

[@ericcraig3809]

@@StilesAutomotive well , I've been fueling without it. Maybe why I smell gas inside?

[@StilesAutomotive]

@@ericcraig3809 What? To fuel the car at the Gas Station Pump, the Pump Nozzle is the correct size to open the Flapper Valve. To add Gas from a Fuel Can, you need to use the correct Fuel Can designed with the right nozzle (none of mine are) or you have to use the OEM Fuel Filler Funnel. You may need to ask the question again. - Stiles

[@ericcraig3809]

@@StilesAutomotive Thanks for responding. Yeah I smell gas in the car after it sets awhile. What do you think?

[@StilesAutomotive]

@@ericcraig3809 That is a tough one to troubleshoot from messages like this. Sorry I can't be more help. - Stiles

[@Thedruidess666]

how to lock the fuel door again? does it lock by itself?

[@StilesAutomotive]

Maria, The Fuel Door on my 2013 Mustang does not lock. It is a push open (spring loaded) and push closed door. If you are talking about the internal Flapper Valve, re-insert the OEM Funnel into the Fuel Filler Neck and it will close. - Stiles

[@donbratton]

When you use one, it pours gas all over the street, your driveway, your children’s play area... I would let your wife drive.

[@subhirammaha3246]

I did as stated in the video, but the signal did not disappear and check ingin appears

[@StilesAutomotive]

Subhi, You may have an issue other than your Fuel Filler Neck or the 2 mating surfaces in the Fuel Filler Neck between the Flapper Valve and the Neck may be old / damaged and unable to seal. Also a vacuum leak somewhere else on your vehicle could cause the same OBDII Fault Code. To verify if the Fuel Filler Neck is the issue, cover the opening (ensure it is sealed) with Saran Wrap or similar sealing plastic. Clear the Fault Code and see if the Fault comes back. If you are sure your seal is good, the issue is somewhere else. I believe this is going to be a big issue in the future for everyone with a Capless Filler Neck. That is why I stated, it scared me the first time I saw this feature on a car. Hope this helps you! - Stiles

[@monkipug92]

@@StilesAutomotive hi stiles I have the same car just a 2014. Is it possible to buy a different cap to avoid all this together? My dad has reset the car multiple times over like 2 years. The engine light eventually comes back, but I have not done anything differently to prevent dirt from getting in the gas cap. I barely drive the car since I have a 5 year old, and my explorer 2016 has the same gas cap concept and I don't have the same problem. What do you think ? It breaks my heart to see that engine light, but I don't have money to be leeched at the dealership. :(

[@StilesAutomotive]

@@monkipug92 Monki, this time you replied to the very comment I would give to you, "Subhi, You may have an issue other than your Fuel Filler Neck or the 2 mating surfaces in the Fuel Filler Neck between the Flapper Valve and the Neck may be old / damaged and unable to seal. Also a vacuum leak somewhere else on your vehicle could cause the same OBDII Fault Code. To verify if the Fuel Filler Neck is the issue, cover the opening (ensure it is sealed) with Saran Wrap or similar sealing plastic. Clear the Fault Code and see if the Fault comes back. If you are sure your seal is good, the issue is somewhere else. I believe this is going to be a big issue in the future for everyone with a Capless Filler Neck. That is why I stated, it scared me the first time I saw this feature on a car. Hope this helps you! - Stiles" And . . . for caps, you can buy a locking cap for our Mustangs, but I don't know how well it will seal. This maybe worth a try, I don't have one and have not used one. Rock Auto is "out of stock" on them, so I don't know a price. See the Rock Auto Link below - - GATES 31859 {Click Info Button for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers} Regular Locking Fuel Cap Info STANT 10524 {Click Info Button for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers} Fuel Tank Cap Locking Plug www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2014,mustang,5.0l+v8,3298468,fuel+&+air,fuel+tank+cap,5900 Let me know how it goes! - Stiles

[@monkipug92]

@@StilesAutomotive hi so I actually took it to auto zone for the free diagnostic like you suggested. It was the EVAP. So I bought the last one they had and watched another video and changed it myself. "Thank you KZbin." And thankfully the engine light turned off. Thanks for the advice, so I'm assuming now just to maintain it clean everytime I pump gas?

[@BdyPhrk]

hows that plastic piece called?

[@StilesAutomotive]

Which part are you talking about? May be you can identify it from the Ford Part Website (link below) for my 2013 Mustang, Back out of this page and put your exact vehicle information in to get your correct parts. - Stiles parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/body/other-body-related-parts-rear/pipe-fuel-filler-7897273-1#/sectionId:141074091

[@BdyPhrk]

@@StilesAutomotive that plastic thing where you're supposed to insert the gun, same thing on my dodge broke off and got a check light cause of it

[@StilesAutomotive]

@@BdyPhrk That sounds like the Fuel Filler Pipe, Part#: 9034 in the link above. That is the whole Gas Pipe the runs to the Gas Tank. - Stiles

[@donbratton]

It’s called a “flapper snapper"

[@monkipug92]

I didn't watch the whole video. I came to KZbin trying to understand the problem with my 2014 Mustang. The engine light keeps coming on and I'm thinking it's the gas cap? I want to replace it. Is it too late? Is it damaged elsewhere because of the dust or dirt getting in?

[@StilesAutomotive]

Based on what you just said, you don't have a fault code reader, go to Autozone, Advance Auto, or Pep Boys and ask them to use a OBDII reader in the parking lot. They won't charge you anything (Pep Boys may want you bring it into the shop so they can charge you). This will tell you what your problem is, then you can determine it you can fix it or if you need a trained professional. Best of luck and let me know how it goes! - Stiles

[@donbratton]

a gas cap is.. what... 6 bucks? I’d forgo Christmas and crack the bank open and try one. You can always tale it back to recover that Queenly sum.

[@joehyundaitech7961]

this is for lazy people that cant take the few seconds to remove a fuel cap and then when there done fueling put it back on I would rather do that . as time goes on the seal will leak the vapors and you have have a evap leak code causing your eng light to come on clean or not it will still happen

[@StilesAutomotive]

Joe, Yep, totally agree, your second part sentence is the point of my video of course. I'm all for eliminating step/work if you do it right, I have a Shop Tip Video on the subject (see link below), but for my Ford Fuel Filler System, the Door Seal does come close to keeping the dust out of the pocket around the Filler Neck. I wonder how many thousands of Filler Neck Assemblies will be replace in the next few years. Thanks for the comment! - Stiles Shop Tip #4 - Stop Repetitive Tasks, Radio on with Overhead Lights kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmecaqN6pJ1gj8U

[@laurendoyle94]

How do you fix one that starts leaking?

[@donbratton]

Obviously coming from a man who doesn’t own one, but still has a strong opinion. This is why you should never talk politics. You might run into him

[@kevinspahr6632]

Armour all is crap!!!! I would use anything but armour all to clean.

[@StilesAutomotive]

Kevin, yep, as a cleaner its not good, it will help wipe light dust from the Filler Neck area. and I haven't found anything for a Plastic and Rubber Protectant. So I continue to use it. - Stiles

[@tracysmith9934]

Armor All, good for rotting out tire sidewalls

[@mga7600]

What is good to clean the area? If armoral is not good? Want to clean the outside area.

[@Gibson-md9yi]

This is a trigger for the p0456 light

[@StilesAutomotive]

Marcello, Yes this could cause the P0456 EVAP Emissions System Leak Fault, another cause of the Fault is a vacuum leak or Fuel Tank Vent Hose/Line leak. - Stiles

[@Gibson-md9yi]

@@StilesAutomotive I want to clean it but I don't want it to interfere with the fuel... I had this light popping up yesterday I cleaned the outside and the light went off it came back today... thinking maybe I gotta clean the inside

[@johnsilver7150]

Gas caps were never a problem. Never had to clean one. I now have a 5 gal gas can with a crazy spout and now stupid crap on the cars. IF it wasn't broke don't fix it. Government at work.

[@StilesAutomotive]

John, Don't get me started on Fuel Cans, I have a couple of older ones that work just fine. They pour fast with very little spillage. The trick is to get Gas from the new cans into the older ones. I spill a lot, so most of the time I just deal with the new cans. My Cub Cadet Lawn Tractor has a big 4 inch opening and I can just take the Spout off of the newer Cans and pour directly into the tank. But generally, I spill several Teaspoons of Gas to protect the world from a little Gasoline Vapor. The Capless Filler Neck I do like, I have a Shop Tip Video that talks about removing worthless steps from tasks (see link below), but I wish the Filler Neck was designed better, to not get dirty (the point of this video) and to seal for the life of the car/truck. I appreciate the comment! - Stiles Shop Tip #4 - Stop Repetitive Tasks, Radio on with Overhead Lights kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmecaqN6pJ1gj8U

[@donbratton]

A man with strong opinions, on things he doesn’t know anything about. Men like this give real men a bad rep.

[@bleeke69]

My flapper door will not stay open when I do this procedure.

[@StilesAutomotive]

Bleeke, Insert your OEM Funnel into your Fuel Filler Neck, then stick something inside of the Funnel to hold the Flapper Valve open when you remove the Funnel. Be sure to use something that cannot be dropped into the Fuel Tank, a long Coat Hanger for example. - Stiles

[@bleeke69]

@Stiles Automotive I used the video step by step with the exact same tools that you did. I have a 13 taurus limited.

[@donbratton]

see... this is why iyou’re still single

[@bleeke69]

​@@donbrattonI wish

[@xtremecowgirl4644]

Get therapy. ​@@donbratton

[@theonerealgreenman]

Now i have to find that stupid funnel to put gas from a jerry can like how is at more convenient.

[@StilesAutomotive]

The Man, Yep, why doesn't some make and sell a Fuel Can with the correct Nozzle to work with this Filler System? It's on many, many Cars and Light Trucks! - Stiles

[@thew4rrior5code]

I don't like the fact you can just open that filler cap like that what if someone wants to fill it up and put anything down there?I've got key entry on my ford which is safer than this. But yeah I clean this area too lots of people neglect this

[@StilesAutomotive]

Yes, good point, I have locking gas caps on my older vehicles. I have seen the locking cap that goes in this neck. Again, good point and thanks for the comment! - Stiles

[@donbratton]

Time to move my friend. Not everywhere in America has hundreds of people walking around looking for vehicles with no locks, just so they can pour something down it.

[@davidallen8348]

I cleaned mine and the check fuel filler message went away for a few days but it came back I tried to clean it again but it’s still there

[@StilesAutomotive]

David, I normally reply to your type of comment within 24 hours, but I wanted to research this more. You need to find someway to seal the Fuel Filler opening, this will ensure if the fault goes away, that this is your problem. I thought that the Locking Capless Filler Neck Cap may be the solution, but I don't think this provides a seal. You may be able to use one and add an O-Ring to it. In another comment on this video, someone mentioned a proper size rubber stopper, that is a good idea, too. Let me know how it goes! - Stiles

[@donbratton]

I’d sell it. Or get a friend to help you

[@leonardlovelandjr4421]

Ford focus sucks 😂😢😮😅

[@StilesAutomotive]

Leonard, I once worked with an old crusty Engineer, that would say, yes it "sucks" but it also "blows" . . . which may be good it in equilibrium, . . . or worst 'cause the suck is pushing and pulling at the same time . . . well anyway it "sucks" LOL - Stiles

[@mikehudick7074]

Talk about LAZY ... it's redundant to have to remove a cap from the filler neck?? JEEZUS!!

[@StilesAutomotive]

Mike, I do like the idea of no Gas Cap, however I want a Cap, if the Filler Door Area will get dirty (it will), if as the Filler Neck gets old, the car will have runability issues, and if when the Filler Neck gets old I will have to replace the whole Neck ( you can buy a bunch of New Caps for the cost of the Filler Neck Assembly). Again, I like the idea of getting rid of repetitive tasks, I even did a "Shop Tip" on the subject (see link below). - Stiles Shop Tip #4 - Stop Repetitive Tasks, Radio on with Overhead Lights kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmecaqN6pJ1gj8U

[@xtremecowgirl4644]

You know I w, PEOPLE didn't pick this, FORD did.

[@putheflamesoutyahoo1503]

That is dumb watch scotty kilmer on this subject...what would it cost to replace that dumb valve...what would it take for some idiot to mess up your fuel. Heard they even are dangerouse for gas explossions? Put it this way,,,look at all the youtubes on this subject . Think...a gas cap...really

[@StilesAutomotive]

Put, I'm not sure there is a question here! I normally address comments with valid questions. 1) Part of the point of the video, is this design will likely cause many problems as the car ages, 2) to replace the Flapper Valve you would replace the Filler Neck Assembly, cost for the part is likely greater than $200 and then add labor, 3) Dangerous? Unlikely, the Door Seal and Flapper Valve would likely cause an EGR related fault, indicated by the Check Engine Light, long before this would leak that must Fuel Vapors. This is not my design, it is used on many, many modern vehicles, yes I was critical of the design in my video, however, I would not replace it. If I were adding or modifying a Fuel Tank under a Pickup Truck Bed, I would probably select a Filler Neck with a Cap. The point of the Stiles Automotive Video is to help you clean and maintain your Capless Filler Neck. - Stiles

[@donbratton]

The problem is... you listen to Scotty the idiot.

[@xtremecowgirl4644]

Yeah, except it was the Ford dealerships in Engineers that decided on this, not people just buying a car or a truck. So how about cool it what the insults? Or try to use your thinking skills to think before you type