Cleared Hot Episode 105 - Evy Poumpouras

Evy Poumpouras packs an incredible punch in a small package...She is a former Secret Service Special Agent who worked the protective details for President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama, President George W. Bush, William Clinton, and George H. Bush. She worked complex criminal investigations and undercover operations, executed search and arrest warrants, and investigated both violent and financial crimes. Additionally, Evy was an interrogator for the agency’s elite polygraph unit and trained by the Department of Defense in the art and science of lie detection, human behavior, and cognitive influence.
Evy Poumpouras is a multi-platform journalist and host who frequently appears on NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and ABC. She covers a wide range of topics, such as national security, law enforcement, personal protection, behavioral analysis, situational awareness, and how to live life fearlessly.
Outside of her role as a journalist, Evy is a TEDx speaker and international advisor whose expertise is sought worldwide. She has been a keynote speaker for NASDAQ, SOCOM, Yankee Stadium Series, United Technologies, Corcoran Group, Tyco, Skanska, Red Door Spa, amongst many others. She is an Adjunct Professor for The City University of New York where she teaches criminal justice and criminology. Evy was also cast on CBS’s TV series “The Hunted.”
Evy holds a Master of Science from Columbia University in Journalism, a Master of Arts in Forensic Psychology from Argosy University, and a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science and International Affairs from Hofstra University. She is also a former New York City Police Academy recruit, and a graduate of the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, Secret Service Academy, and the Department of Defense Polygraph Institute.

[@dim9753]

I love her voice. The way she speaks makes me feel so relaxed and comfortable, no wonder people confessed their crimes lol.

[@lauraelizabethbrown]

Spies are selected for a reason. They have to feel like trustworthy and sympathetic people.

[@eduardoandres5989]

no kidding! her voice makes me wanna confess mine like Chunk in the Goonies lol

[@mj5019]

She is using her radio voice. Its a psychological tactic where it makes you feel relaxed and comfortable. I learned this from MasterClass.com - The Art of Negotiation Class.

[@khitai8227]

Asmr confessions

[@arigebennasr1819]

Hahahha yeess

[@_.iivvee._]

I’ve been on an evy interview binge the last two days, this is by far my favorite. So much strength in this woman🙏🏼💛

[@daniellemendes1371]

Evy is a role model for all human beings, not just women. Her heart and humility are so admirable.

[@Jessiegirlcasual]

Holy shit. I forgot Andy was there and I love watching him. This woman was so fascinating and was so captivating. My heart hurt for her during her 9-11 recount.

[@SortaProfessional89]

Her 9/11 story brought me to tears. I grew up across the water and watched for weeks as the fire burned. A couple friends parents were buried alive. Its a day that will live in my memory forever.

[@heidi22209]

I was in WI. I remember the crisp air. The shock. I will never forget. I'm not a New Yorker.. you are still my people ♥. Thoes 1st responders knew they weren't coming back. I still can't believe that shit happened.

[@EEST-Militia]

thats what globalism did to USA and other countries.

[@user-or1ye3iz6d]

Same. Jersey girl here. Lost a few people that day: a friend and also my next door neighbor. 😢 I'll never forget that day. Too close to home.

[@NaruIchiLuffy]

Man, her first-hand experience of 9/11... wow... just absolutely heart wrenching and brutal

[@karenbolton9526]

Likeiving in a stimulation. Heard 40yrs of stories and seen trauma in forensic and acute mental health. Nice she hasn't lost her femininity amongst the male predominance

[@karenbolton9526]

Don't need a masters work out forensic psychology just get in amongst them

[@jamesallen2659]

"Will your listeners stay on this long ?" - You bet we will, when the podcast is this fascinating, interesting and heartfelt ! An awesome episode, and thank you both for that

[@danielmarshall4587]

AIN'T THAT THE TRUTH. This is outstanding.

[@epyjacek]

Yeah we definitely stay.

[@LFreeouf]

Haha, yes. Awesome reply. At 1:37 she asked if we'd stay on this long. Are you kidding?! This is an amazing interview. Thank you Evy, and thank you Andy!

[@gregbraddy1497]

This interview is way Kool!

[@raimundosilva4382]

amiga a Lara a Lara foi o ator de todos os climas tanto que ela é a primeira que ela arrumou o sequestro contra mim para me matar e ela arrumou no FBI controle de tudo mentira pelo menos que ela arrumoufui levantando assar foi levantando a saia é oferecido para mim e procurou essa daí que ele me condenar falando que eu tinha invadido para ver a cidade dela a Lara fez e depois me colocou e aí depois projetor a cena e aí Wesley me procurar que eu tinha invadir a privacidade dela sempre que foi ela que levantou e depois aproveitou ainda como saia que me bancarlimpar ainda apresentar aí que ela ia mandar alguém medepois de tudo isso que tava tudo certo ela fez isso comigo me criticou no um programa ela me condenou de tudo que não todos quando ela já procurou SBT quero meela falou vai ficar aí que eu entreguei para ver se dá dela foi ela que deu toda liberdade com ela arrumou para mima forma que aconteceu como que aconteceu a cena criminosa ela mostrou para o FBI apresentou para ele que ela fez primeiro a Lara é o ator de todos os climas até eu tô esperandoentre em contato com os procuradores da justiça tem para me procurar e me buscar aqui para mim comparecer aí buscar é o que eu mais quero ir buscar aso que ela ama salto Santarém love you murai invadir a minha para todo lado que eu vou eles porque tá sendo criminosa em falta com eles invadiram minha felicidade eles me perturba e cara do juiz e juiz permite eles tomaram a liberdade

[@bookwormchats]

Evy- "Will your listeners stay on this long?" (1:37:38- 1:37:40) My response being, I would watch your interviews all day if I could. No way would I stop.

[@bertt1014]

It's refreshing to hear Evy be so honest about how subjective a polygraph is. Great guest.

[@lauraelizabethbrown]

**was in the secret service** "Will your listeners stay on this long?" LOL she really has no idea?

[@cvgoal14]

1:37:45 the answer is yes, we will sit and listen this long...excellent interview

[@quickst88tus]

It’s funny that she has absolutely no idea how interesting and engaging she is. Great podcast.

[@punanie05]

The most interesting people generally dont. Good rule of thumb is anyone who thinks they are interesting is anything but!

[@cynthiapereira8403]

Sure she does; she worked on that. She had to be engaging to hook someone in.

[@lovewhitey2027]

Ohhhh She knows 😉

[@GoldhartStudio]

Why do you think that she does not ? She is not stupid.

[@GoldhartStudio]

@@cynthiapereira8403 Yes, for sure she does know that she is beautiful and smart. She never disagree with youtubers, who interview her, when they say that she is smart and awesome looking

[@garrettsasser4565]

Good lord. She has a voice smoother than peanut butter and velvet.

[@johnbennettiv]

Evy’s 9/11 story. Me: “That’s one of the most intense, harrowing things I’ve ever heard.” Andy: “Yep, that was an interesting day.” 😂

[@tnt01]

i know right. lol

[@GoldhartStudio]

Andy's comments are weird sometimes, yes. Saying bad things about Canadiana, what is it ? Some Canadian girl dropped him and he can not forget ? Sweared also in front of Evy, live alone 'interesting day', yes.

[@DoggoWillink]

Yeah his reaction to her 9/11 story was pretty weird. Almost like he just had no emotion or reaction to it. Maybe that’s what war did to him (perhaps when you see enough of that stuff it doesn’t affect you so much anymore). It’s not for me to judge, far far from it. Also perhaps he has already heard her story as they know each other, so it’s not like he just heard it the first time. Maybe he just didn’t want to make it emotional and upset her, so he kept it objective as he said he always does (that makes sense to me).

[@kali6651]

@@GoldhartStudio He is just a sarcastic guy that's all

[@GoldhartStudio]

@@kali6651 Sarcasm is a form of anger.

[@williamdolan2673]

Just started the book yesterday. Fantastic, engaging, and actionable. (ugh, did I just say "actionable?") Great book. Anyone on this channel will find it useful. Bonus: the Audible is read by Evy. They're always better when done by the author.

[@handsinknead77]

Before I finished watching her interview (online and my first time knowing who she is) I bought her book. She is is so engaging and solid. I'm a third of the way into her book and it's beautifully written and filled with life saving tips for anyone interested on Becoming Bulletproof.

[@oregonoutback7779]

Absolutely fabulous interview, Andy. Evy's 911 story was gripping, especially the number of bodies leaping from the upper tower. I worked with a guy, post 911, that made it down the stairs and out the front doors of tower 2, only to have a body land right next to him on the sidewalk. He took his family, left New York, hoping to find someplace with no tall buildings to fly planes into, or people jumping out of. The Outback is perfect. Nothing over about 12 feet tall here, other than maybe a tree. Thanks again.

[@oregonoutback7779]

@Ron Stone ...Very interesting. Does this person share the same name as an ex-CIA chief?

[@la3615]

There’s an outback in Oregon? I always thought it was a strictly Aussie thing. Should I feel embarrassed ?

[@oregonoutback7779]

@@la3615 Embarrassment not necessary. The "outback" is sort of a locals thing. The view is similar and the summer heat can be brutal. What we have over the down under version is lots and lots of winter. No kangaroos, but we do have the occasional sheep. It's beautiful, especially if you enjoy lots of "middle of nowhere".

[@liamb6812]

This girl just manipulated me into buying her book. Great Job! Amazing interview

[@Elfin4]

All I can say about this woman is WOW, what an intelligent individual. Respect from England.

[@pdoc1547]

​Evy's recounting of her experience of 911 is one of the coolest moments of any podcast I have seen to date.

[@daveoatway6126]

Incredible interview! Life lessons from two articulate, thoughtful, courageous, and experienced Patriots. Thank you both - you give a 76 yo soldier hope for the future.

[@mamashanshan2772]

My son was at “ the children’s hospital “, after 9/11, during the Olympics, very interesting, intense especially when President Bush Jr. came through with all the snippers protecting us. The eye awakened moment when I truly realized, Our country will forever need strength, and we all need to have backbones. Big difference of having backbones than the ones that panic and harm. Be a better human. I live in Idaho!! Grateful to know good humans. Forever grateful. Ty both.

[@mikenf1185]

Such an interesting, intelligent, humble lady. But mesmerisingly awesome!!! And she has no idea.

[@stefaniesombaty8980]

I grew up in a STRESSFUL household. I operate under stress well. I've always wondered if children who grow up in this environment would make good officers/soldiers?

[@bobbypickles9890]

Lol

[@steveeadie4350]

Wow! My wife and I were captured by this interview. Thank you for your service and for you understanding of what our great country offers. Andy, thanks for a great interview and knowing when and what to add to the mix.

[@knockonolan]

This episode just popped up on my feed-somehow I missed it when it first aired. Hats of to Evy for being a true blue civil servant and defining what it means to "be of service". As a Queens, NY ex-pat and former NYPD cop, I'm super proud of her and her achievements. Keep up the great work lass!

[@prettypinklady69]

There are many amazing women out there, I really wish Andy would interview more women. I think Evy is one of the most riveting interviews I've listened to in a very long time. Thanks for letting her tell her story.

[@ryanrichardson9915]

"Why are we vomiting"??? LOL!! Love this girl. So genuine.

[@petra4950]

This interview made me cry.😢 I have so much respect for both of them. This is one of the best interviews I’ve ever heard. Thank you.

[@jupiterjunk]

This one is my new favorite interview you've done. It took a while, but it was well worth it. Awesome job.

[@vanPoll]

Evy P. is tough as nails and highly intelligent. I tip my hat to her. She might be small - but fierce, indeed.

[@manuelamatos2909]

She doesn’t know how awesome she is. And that is the real thing about great human beings 👍🏻

[@lwhite530]

Love Evy! She’s badass and I love that she was clueless yet has the balls to stick through and a strong mind... she’s a total badass and a beautiful one at that!

[@jessicaduda5219]

Thank you Evy, for sharing your experience from 9/11. I come from a family of Volunteer Firemen, and am an active member myself from Upstate New York. It brought me right back to exactly where I was in that moment (I was only in 7th grade but remember vividly.) The feelings of gratitude for my fellow First Responders and our Law Enforcement officers should go back to the way it was following such a tragic event :( But I really appreciate hearing your first hand experience being on the "front line" then. And, as always, great podcast Andy!

[@matthewcandler4179]

I was in middle school far away from New York when this happened. Her story helped me better understand the impact and feeling of people in New York.

[@TheOlgaKay]

Outstanding podcast! Evy was in her element which I didn't get to see during many other interviews I watched. Andy's listening skills and sense of humor didn't hurt either. Superb!

[@isabellaexeoulitze6544]

Loved this! Evy, please release an audiobook so that we can hear you narrate your book. Also, you should be a key note speaker on all events encouraging women to go into male dominated professions (if it’s something they want to do)! This interview is as insightful as it’s inspirational!

[@kingedwardtitus7624]

Excellent and as a over the road driver and veteran very grateful for every minute 3 hrs optimal 👍🇱🇷 thank you both for your service and public testimonials to share and inform others.

[@raeofsunshine5820]

YES! I am staying on the whole time!! :D For all 2 hours and 17 minutes! Thank you both for this conversation. 🙏🙏🙏

[@Backdaft94]

Amazing guest, amazing interview. Envy is a riveting speaker, pulled me right into y’all’s conversation. Honestly felt like the podcast ended way to soon.

[@toddsmith4704]

Evy you made my eyes moist listening to you tell your 911 story . Never have heard 911 talked about the way you did thank you for sharing your story god bless you .

[@followurheart1]

Todd Smith yeah well the guy she was “protecting”, was responsible for that day 911

[@DMWBN3]

Todd Smith what's the timeline ?

[@martinsky2086]

I was 6 at the time of 9/11 and I knew what was going on, my dad was part of the welders who went out there to help, but hearing her say that the new generations that were not born until later on and that they don't have that connection, they see it as a far away history made me felt like I am the last generation to appreciate all the help of a almost forgotten history and that life, time and space is ready to forget about 9/11 or have started, because no one in these days (on the 9/11 memorial day) even mentions about what they were doing on that day. 10 years back everyone on school, park, table would talk about. Time has changed

[@bluenetmarketing]

An amazing interview with one amazing heroine and one amazing hero. No wonder our country is great.

[@RainMan221]

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@bobralke8044]

Amazing podcast, the 911 part was unbelievable, thanks.

[@corybrinton6624]

After hearing this and Evy talking about awareness and paying attention could you do a podcast on situational awareness for the average person. As a average everyday person what to watch for in your day things to key on or ignore. How to identify a possible threat or bad situation to avoid or even when to engage. Would be an awesome conversation between yourself and Jocko.

[@deviltoys2000]

Look into Sheep Dog Response. Tim Kennedy's business that runs classes based on exactly what you are looking for. Plenty of videos online of the courses. Ranging from what to look for to what to do when you actually need to act. He is a Army SF. Also fought MMA. Deff look up the Jocko podcast he was on.

[@jennj2049]

@@deviltoys2000 thanks for the recommendation 💕

[@jimmyjones4398]

Props 105. You took it way past your comfort time zone at 2 hours. Outstanding podcast. Will definitely look for her book.

[@ChyeahWill]

Such a freaking awesome podcast. As someone who is currently applying to join the police, there was so much to learn. Thank you and thank you. Will very much consider her book.

[@f0rumrr]

What a cool person, so much insight and knowledge. Hope she makes another appearance. 10/10 convo.

[@billyharrison1220]

Best podcast I've listened to in a long time. Thank you Evy and keep it up Andy!

[@MichaelDelvalle-nt4gp]

that 9/11 story was intense. i was a young kid watching it all go down from my apartment window in midtown, and not really knowing what the fuck was going on, but im really happy we had men and women down there like Evy who did what they could during that crisis. I mean that story was so engaging, ive never listened to a podcast so intently... It wasnt even that though, the entire podcast was engaging. I havent watched a full podcast without skipping a least a little bit of it in at least a year lmao. This was the first in a long time.

[@TheOraclePriestessRa]

I LOVE her intention, her whole vibe.

[@Glee73]

life would be very interesting for their kids.. with both parents being experts in behavior, interrogation, lie detection and polygraphists...

[@Logan-bx4nj]

yea lying not a chance lol.

[@negativeionz]

There is no expertise in lie detection according to most of the science on the subject and polygraphs are security theater. It's 50/50.

[@abriseno96]

Big fan of Andy and clicked on this one just because and found myself really interested in the full conversation.. great podcast.

[@tonypaolone1204]

Wow . one of the best podcast I have listened to. What an amazing woman.

[@MicheMoffatt]

This may be the best, most phenomenal and thought provoking KZbin & podcast I’ve heard and seen! I think you both have such a profound understanding of human nature and so much experience - thank you for this! I’m only 1hr38 in, but I’ll be watching to the end! Amazing!!!! Thank you! Ps. I agree everyone should have a couple years of national service to serve others and have an appreciation for other people and not just self service! Thank you both x

[@marykisner6662]

So glad this popped up on my feed. An extremely informative discussion about military and government service. I have renewed respect for you and others who serve us all in these capacities.

[@ramitch5583]

Sad to hear that law enforcement get treated so poorly when they will come help us when needed. They put up with rude people having bad days every day. Just think about it. There pay is low to put up with the stuff they put up with daily. Something to ponder instead of listening to horrible news journalists and some politicians who want us to be so divided and hateful to each other.

[@mattr.9167]

I was 11 years old when 9/11 happened. I was on my way out the door with my backpack on to go to school when I saw the first tower hit. Went through the rest of the day at school with teachers TRYING not to talk about it. 8 years later I joined the army. I have nothing but love and respect to everyone that was there that day and everyone who was affected by 9/11.

[@jacobelliott9936]

Thanks for bringing back the video. Awesome to put a face to a voice with her story as a whole.

[@cherialbaugh6577]

We...the listeners Are huge fans of this topic the morality the humanity and the effort that you all have given of yourselves As you were born to do with courage without reservation a complete inspiration. The listeners I speak for myself are much better off especially during this time of pandemic where we need to ignite our fire within with courage and compassion and truth. You have paved the way for me to continue my journey with mankind. 🇺🇸🕊🇺🇸🌟🌟🌟🌟 Thank you both from the bottom of my heart.

[@fireprogram]

Wow!! I hung on every word. Fantastic and thank you.

[@annabeltemple230]

Engaging and thought-provoking listening. Evy surely has a lot of lived experience and important insights to share. The reality is that the media showing the routine, grassroots, everyday work of the vast majority of law enforcement work, just isn't sensational nor outrageous enough. Further, it just doesn't result in views, nor advertising revenue. To change the narrative, the general public has to become re-engaged within a social context that encourages all 'stakeholders' that we are all in this together, for the long haul.

[@hurk130]

This is one of the best podcast I have ever heard. Outstanding job.

[@JohnKelly-vn8bk]

Class act

[@adrienne-chan]

This was a happy suprise. Thank you for this thought provoking podcast and inspiring story. Disecting dichotomies of two different service careers from the perspectives of both a man and a woman was riveting. It always come down to strategy and training.

[@tess303]

That was sooooo awesome! Thank you Evy and Andy!!!!!

[@censorshipbites7545]

I remember this episode. I was extremely impressed with Evy: 1) She was willing to take on challenges, like wanting to be paired with a big guy for unarmed take-down practice, and equally important 2) She knew her limitations. She knows she's no match for medium or big guys, so she has to get creative. I've got far more respect for women, and especially small ones like Evy, who accept they'll never be door-kickers but who are still willing to take some lumps.

[@tammyhagger1460]

Thank you for sharing. Evy is awesome..enjoy listening to jer and her knowledge...your full of wisdom too thanks for your pod cast and your efforts 100% Australia

[@qave]

Great interview and story telling. thank you to both.

[@aurorap.7578]

This was fascinating, I'm never around people who have served in the way you guys have I really enjoyed listening to your perspectives and yes I listened to the whole thing

[@AC-pj2sl]

Wow. She is a amazing woman 💪. Thanks for your service. So so greatful.

[@MshAhmxiO1]

"your listeners...." whether we want to keep tuned in this long?! Oh Yes most definitely. I did much service work locally in my country & 2yrs abroad, also 16hr days the entire Masters degree & etc so that I may be better equipped to be of service. Coming out of a bleak bottomless chasm, I can hear these two talk endlessly. It affirms that living with purpose can be more refined within ourselves and to not give way to a cold detached side of humanity that sees it's service workers as expendable fodder. Grateful! Thank you Evy & Andy.

[@jodif8779]

Thank you both for your honesty about 911, etc.

[@stevedunn2635]

At 40:00 minutes you described my 4 tours in Iraq and Afghanistan perfectly, I was not afraid to take a life, I was afraid of the legal ramifications I might face... IN A COMBAT ZONE! My God I hate Bush and Obama so much. We were literally handcuffed when it came to ROE!

[@friedchikenuser]

Thank you for your service hero! Happy Hanukkah!

[@Eddieb413]

Great podcast! Mandatory service of some kind sounds like a great idea.

[@bookwormchats]

What she shared about bill clinton in her becoming bulletproof I laughed because I felt bad for her having to stop people going to bill clinton but he wanted to interact. I could sense her frustration at the time of doing the job specifically when she went into the kitchen and tried to hide all the workers to prevent the president stopping but he stopped anyway. I feel sorry for Evy having to go through that.

[@Adykayful]

Definitely adding this to the list of my favorite episodes! This was a great one!

[@danielmarshall4587]

1:06:18 Andy's reaction.... what a great interviewer.

[@kylepayne2120]

I know it cannot happen all the time, but I like it when there is a video.

[@nicholasfreeland9431]

Dude... They polygraphed me at Jackson back in 06 during basic training, they had a little building right next to the water park. However I wasn't a holdover and still graduated and had a successful enlistment in the army, guess they are changing the prerequisites now.

[@mattx229]

One of the best ones you’ve put out. Well done.

[@bp2577]

Awesome interview! Captivating! Thank you!

[@cecyrios9054]

A very engaging, captivating and enlightening conversation. I´m unquestionably getting her book. Thanks for sharing.

[@Ka13Bang]

Couldn't walk away from this one ... 100%

[@danfreese8791]

That was such a great interview. Thanks to both of you

[@drieniedebeer4247]

❣️Evy, I LOVE your voice!!!! And when you laugh or giggle a little bit. I think you are such a beautiful person! Thank you guys for talking about difficult topics.❣️

[@chars8772]

One of the best podcasts I’ve listened to in a while. Thank you for this. Great interview and content.

[@Halligan515]

First time listener, new subscriber. Awesome conversation.

[@carloscruz2850]

Badass podcast interview! Loved it! Can't wait to read the book when it comes out next year! :) :) :)

[@eriklarson9137]

Terrific podcast Andy. Thank you.

[@martinstrubin4234]

Best podcast I’ve ever listened to and I’ve listened to a lot of them.

[@prettypinklady69]

I'm not surprised, but the comments on this particular interview have far more people proclaiming that Evy is the best interview they've heard, I agree.

[@shamsam4]

Her 911 story was quite moving. Good podcast.

[@DMWBN3]

Sam Williamson what's the time line?

[@beaesquivel6524]

WOW. The trainings they go through- 🙌🏼 Respect.

[@andrewgerrard4948]

Really enjoyed that. Thanks Andy

[@scooters10000]

great show, the world needs more Andy's, Evy's and of course Joe's.

[@ramitch5583]

Learning about the training she went through is amazing. Good interview and thanks for sharing.

[@daisymendez1414]

EVY P! What an inspiration! Loved this interview!

[@bobbobert1964]

Man her 9/11 story was powerful. God Bless America and Our First Responders

[@joelw7374]

I just got to this podcast... the portion on news media, being not news its something I've been thinking a lot about. When I was younger, in the 80's there were what 3 news stations, each with a single anchor, who's job was to report the news, but also present it in a way that lessened fear... as time when on those anchors were exchanged for the one who had a more appealing look or emphasis... now its panels of opinion, debates and editorial statement... and a push for ratings, not to mention the multitude of "news sources" worldwide. The consequence is a schizophrenia of voices and directives and the result is now seen in the anxiety, even mental disorders, panic, and paranoia that we are currently experiencing... I've really enjoyed the perspectives and stories on this podcast!

[@stevenduenez1568]

Awesome Episode! Probably My Favorite. Going to Watch this Again with My 15yr Old Daughter. Thank you .

[@pritchettpj]

Absolutely gripping interview, the 9/11 part was harrowing. Definitely going to read the book

[@daisybrown6141]

I totally agree that the United States should do mandatory service.