Maria Pobedushkina - Who wins the difficulty?

Who wins the difficulty so far?
This is me trying to figure out how much a routine could worth if it was executed perfectly.
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[@ClematisRGVideos]

Among the Russians, her difficulty maybe not be as high as Dina, Arina or Lala, but her execution is certainly something. Expect (in the worst case for a clean routine) a small kip on her stag leap (0.1), backscale and forward split not always hold for 1 second (0.3 + 0.3) and a hop with travelling usually at the end of her ring pivot (0.3), bent arms of the catch when she's not secure (0.1), her execution doesn't get better than that. If she gains consistency, a little bit of Difficulty and remove those small errors (and turn her head faster than her trunk durnig those fouette!), it's over for everybody!

[@Bird8937]

I agree she can be the best if she improves. A very special gifted girl, great skills, intelligent routines and very clean...

[@QQ-wl6yt]

I think it's a matter of the FIG revising the Code of Points in favor of legitimate, superior gymnastics like this. One way to see it: could gymnast X perform the routine of gymnast Y? (Nevemind the choreography of Karpushenko which is head and shoulders above any other coach; same goes for the Bulgarian Group relative to any other group). It's a travesty that they add up points for nonsense apparatus "difficulty" which is little more than sloppy goofing around with the apparatus (especially for Dina's ball routines, which have been a total mess for the last few years). I am bracing for them to rig the code of points for the next cycle in favor of the sloppy, improvised-looking routines of Lala instead of those of Pobedushkina.

[@twowickie]

She's Yana pt. 2, electric Pobedushkina bugaloo. I'm excited to see her next season - maybe even Tokyo??

[@rhythmicmusicswap4173]

karpushenko 's work one xecution is always incredible

[@Fefe_Misskay]

I hope these gymnast are subscribed and take your advise. I personally hope that Maria and Daria be the 2 for the next Olympic season... I'm routing for her to improve, I enjoy her style

[@saulowatanabe3890]

FIG needs to increase the value of this artistic connected series. Karpushenko girls definitely impress even the people who don’t know anything about RG. They really deserve more recognition

[@yumyumoryuck8675]

Totally agree! You see a handful of gymnasts with breathtakingly beautiful routines - that truly represent the spirit of rhythmic - but they don't win! And I noticed if you ask fans/gymnasts who their favorite gymnasts/routines are from this quad they rarely say the top gymnasts... (don't get me wrong - they are amazing - but they sacrifice a lot of the "rhythmic" for difficulty points)

[@mysticjc]

@Iulia Ganea ... Salos doesn't have high difficulty?

[@mysticjc]

@Iulia Ganea I'm sorry but Salos has crazy difficulties! Almost the same as Averinas, what she lacks is confidence and consistency, but surely not difficulties.

[@raquelfuccio6032]

Karpushenko is a genius. One of the few gymnasts from this cycle that can keep up with very difficult elements and still manage to make them look so effortless

[@cherrychocoangel1323]

She is such an elegant gymnast! I love her routines, they are soool graceful and her clubs are to die for ❤️ I would love to see Pobedushkina and Trubnikova during 2024 Olympics, it would be again Karpushenko and Zaripova’s gymnasts ✌️

[@eileencollins8799]

Clubs are my least favourite piece of apparatus, but I could watch this routine all day. What an exquisite gymnast.

[@silviakasper2314]

Finally some slow routines haha Don't get me wrong, I love Averinas energy, but sometimes we need some routines with slower music and dances :)

[@sadie247]

Not slow, well controlled and not rushed

[@Wiserwords25]

Wow! It’s not that high, but her execution and artistry has my mind blown. Reminds me of Halkina and Yana (obviously, as they have the same coach).

[@ClematisRGVideos]

Her difficulty is almost equal to Halkina, making her a similar case actually!

[@yelizavette]

Halkina & Pobedushkina are the most artistic and beutiful to watch for me. Just their artistics omg...

[@abrinich2321]

She really is a one of a kind rare gymnast. I hope the next COP will work better for her. Going up against Daria Trubnikova, Lala kramarenko, and Anastasia Guzenkova she's gonna have a lot of competition to be a big star on the Russian Team. Hopefully Viner appreciates her!!

[@rhythmicmusicswap4173]

if the next cycle is a tie between trubnikova and pobedushkina I wouldn't mind,we need these after this cycle with Averina twins XD

[@QQ-wl6yt]

Guzenkova on the team is a ridiculous joke. Lala's routines are almost as horrible but at least she has the crazy pointed feet and the 7x penche pivots. Guzenkova is just milking some favoritism from a medal that Barsoukova won when it was a travesty that her and not Tchachina was on the Olympic team.

[@twowickie]

@@QQ-wl6yt I keep finding you in the comments and I always agree with you. I like you! hahaha

[@rhythmicmusicswap4173]

@@QQ-wl6yt your way to express yourself ...is a little aggressive, but yes i can agree .it maes me mad seeing how many chanches guznenkova is getting compared to pobedushkina . at least as you said lala is insane ,when is she i te right shape ,with bd

[@sw6041]

I love her routines. Combination of artistry and technique. The gymnasts who train with her coach are all elegant and unique.

[@dododimitrov9657]

She is one of my favorite gymnasts right now. I prey she remain healthy in 4 years when they fix the cop.

[@alquifran5815]

Her difficulty might not be as high as other gymnasts, but with a clean execution (which she can totally manage to get) she can be on top. They need to let her perform more often on important events so she can actually practice, but I'm afraid that won't happen until the next Olympic cycle

[@ClematisRGVideos]

I can totally see her in a good place in the Russian team with the next code, especially if they get more severe on the artistic side. Still there is also Trubnikova & Kramarenko who I see occupying the two first spots after the Olympics.

[@mysticjc]

For me the battle is between her, Trubnikova, Kramarenko and Dariya Sergaeva. I certanly wouldn't rule out some others, but Guzenkova, Simakova and the seniors-to-be don't look that appealing to me right now.

[@ClematisRGVideos]

I would definitely not rule Guzenkova, Simakova and Sergaeva out either.

[@QQ-wl6yt]

@@ClematisRGVideos Guzenkova would be a total travesty. She is mind-numbingly boring and weak. She looks more like any of the unimpressive Ukranians of recent years, who never managed to put forward an interesting gymnast after Vitrychenko. (Bessonova and Godunko were powerful performers up to 2003 and 2004, respectively, but very little of their choreography was ever interesting).

[@Wiserwords25]

Sadly Viner seems to be favouring the Anastasias (Simakova and Guzenkova) over Maria and Sergaeva. Most likely because the two train at different schools.

[@rhythmicmusicswap4173]

she is a gem,i hope ,althought i have a bad feeling,she will get more chances .kaprushenko is a genius by the way, the finesse of the apparatus handling is overwhelming,connections too

[@user-ig5wu7ny1m]

She changed her routines and upgraded the difficulty a lot :)

[@ClematisRGVideos]

Yes! I have her in the middle of the ranking since her last Russian Cup.

[@aldiz1298]

I think she could perfectly level up her body dificulties since she has nice flex and lines, and maybe add some easy 0.3/0.4 ad's that make the averinas /linoy/vlada etc get those high scores. Because regarding handling, cleanliness and elegance she has no match nowadays ♥ (maybe halkina but halkina has much more easy and simple ad's )

[@tallypea6193]

Stunning I really hope to se her and guzenkova fighting for the tops spots soon

[@cherrychocoangel1323]

I think that Guzenkova (with Simakova) could be on top after Kramarenko-Trubnikova-Pobeda cycle, but who knows it for sure as russian team is unpredictable

[@cherrychocoangel1323]

I’m waiting also for Agafonova as senior on the russian top 🥰

[@tallypea6193]

CherryChoco Angel yes its gonna be very interesting to see who comes on top

[@abiyejoseph2980]

I love this girl She's a 🌟

[@jaelcastillo6396]

im inlove with that backscale pivot

[@QQ-wl6yt]

Don't the original elements add up to the score? I'd argue that she has WAAAAAY more original elements introduced in clubs and ball (and arguably in hoop, too). More importantly, she performs them with amplitude in her execution, which is almost never the case for Salos, in contrast (whose execution of 90% of the times looks like that of a 12-year old). I remember Almudena noting in 2017 broadcasts that Dina had like 6 or 7 original elements registered for clubs then. And I'd argue only like 2 of those elements were genuinely original. I hope Karpushenko fights for the introduction of the endless reservoir of clever, original elements that she introduces in her gymnasts so we can finally see some fair scores.

[@yumyumoryuck8675]

By original elements do you mean original ADs? Could you please explain a little about original ADs? I find them so confusing and hard to understand! Do you have any famous examples?

[@Wiserwords25]

I feel like adding making original elements add up to the score would make rg even more subjective - who’s to say which elements are truly original and which elements have been stolen from other gymnasts? (Not going to lie, I keep seeing “original” elements by Halkina like catch of hoop with neck and foot and her famous penche turn with ball on her foot being used by certain gymnasts, can’t remember who for now,) Dina’s clubs in 2017 was actual pretty original for me, she just threw away some elements cause they didn’t give her points, didn’t execute them properly, or just used them to the point of them not being original anymore. And finally ( btw, this isn’t meant to offend you or anything), I’d say that in 2018, Salos maybe had the execution of a 12 year old. By 2019, she had her moments, but I’d say by 2020 (now), she sharpened up her movements and threw away most careless errors. But it’s on,y the beginning of the year (not really) so who knows?

[@QQ-wl6yt]

@@Wiserwords25 Re Salos, it's not about her making mistakes, which is understandable, since her elements are pretty tricky. What I find so annoying about her (and about Harnasko, almost to the same degree) is that they are so obviously focused on trying stuff out with the apparatus handling that the actual gymnastics are so relegated to a lesser concern. It's like they have no strength or dynamism in their movement. I am not expecting them to levitate like Tchachina (that even made Bessonova seem to land from her overextended leaps like a sack of potatoes by comparison), but maybe think of Agiurguculese, who is also quite innovative with AD and yet is acceptably dynamic in her BD execution. So for Salos, with the pedigree of a BLR school behind her to perform like a 12 year-old is just further evidence of the misplaced incentives of this code-of-points. And believe me, I'm not lamenting the overreliance of AD over BD like some Soldatova fan (routines as basic as hers or Lalas have no reason to be on a RUS national team spot).

[@rhythmicmusicswap4173]

@@QQ-wl6yt mm.. i personally don't see Salos perfoming liek 12 years old,especially since 2019 , she has her won style ,and her strongest point it's not quality movment ,but aparatus orignalty (my gof her hoop routines are insane)

[@sadie247]

My fave

[@saem_rg]

I always wonder how she can make the hoop rotate around the axis with her foot when performing the AD4.😍 Also, how is it possible that the ball rolls so smoothly across her arms? There must be glue on it! 😂

[@ClematisRGVideos]

This catch (1:32) is truly impressive! And yes, she certainly not the one who would get connection penalties or apparatus handling penalties!

[@matthewpayton]

Beautiful routines

[@Pauline-jm7zc]

Thanks for this video! Will you make a video about Trubnikova?

[@ClematisRGVideos]

Yes of course ;)

[@stilldreaming2212]

she’s so elegant but why doesn’t she do any split leaps?

[@petitcoby]

l would like to have more details about her coach.

[@ClematisRGVideos]

Elena Karpushenko ;)

[@celinegandalf1583]

I am speed

[@ClematisRGVideos]

wow yes you are!

[@user-hb7dl9rx1c]

I really don't love MP! And her coach. But thanks, it was so interesting results. )

[@ClematisRGVideos]

Thank you ))

[@NiamCakes]

Kaita Selezneva please

[@anyaflameflow5324]

She is so beautiful to watch sorry to ask this but who the hell decides what the code points is for the cycles? I keep hearing over and over again it's Irina Viner that molds the code to suit her top favorite gymnastics is that true? if it is it makes me see the whole RG world with whole different eyes , that's super unfair and it shows no matter what non-russian girls have 0 chances I think RG could be so much more popular and known maybe not like football but at least like Figure Skating I think this little stuff don't help the sport at all but that's just my opinion

[@Wiserwords25]

Anya Flameflow Pretty sure that Viner does not make up the rules. There’s a set committee that does it. I’m also pretty sure that Viner making the rules is a conspiracy, don’t know where they got it from 🤷🏻‍♀️. There’s been an ongoing trend of judges massively favoring Russian gymnasts, so that might be were it came from.

[@anyaflameflow5324]

@@Wiserwords25 haa ok thanks for the info so no one knows for sure what's the new code is going to be? there isn't a standard or some sort of pattern?

[@Wiserwords25]

@Anya Flameflow I’m not exactly sure. I heard somewhere that the committee takes the Olympics as an example and takes what they like and what they don’t like. I also heard that this cop was partly inspired by Artistic Gymanstics’s open scoring in a way. Parts of the new cop has been shared already, I can’t remember what. I think it was on fig’s website and part of it on Clematis’s Instagram. Most likely, they’ll keep the open difficulty, and change the amount of points certain difficulties have. From what I can remember, fig lowered the penalties for drops, and added an artistic score. Nothing is final, though. Hope it helps!

[@anyaflameflow5324]

@@Wiserwords25 haa ok thanks one last question I don't know much about the code but how do you think the new code will look like in practice, like what kind of routines and gymnastics it will favour? sorry for having so many questions I'm just curious and its hard to come across someone who understands how stuff work

[@Wiserwords25]

Anya Flameflow This is just based purely on my opinion, so be warned 😂. Anyways, I think that the new code will favor Averina type gymnasts again (fast, quick thinkers will lots of difficulty). It will also probably raise the value of pivots more, so favoring Lala Kramarenko. In terms of possibly adding an artistry score, I don’t think it’ll do anything helpful, considering the Averinas are getting the same artistry score as Halkina rn. That’s just purely my opinion. Lots of people favor Pobedushkina, though I don’t know how to make a cop that puts her at top. So: the new cop will probably favor Kramarenko, as much as I wish it not too. And also Trubnikova tho not as much as Lala

[@Kirarissbf]

😍😍😍

[@beatricee8657]

Alla fine di tutti i video farai una classifica?

[@ClematisRGVideos]

Si!