Clemson Football: Josh Pate's Reaction to Clemson's Spring Game is Wrong

Clemson Football: Josh Pate's Reaction to Clemson's Spring Game is Wrong

[@LateKickwithJoshPate]

Still waiting to hear where I'm wrong. Articulating a team with this roster, these resources, and this staff should be expected to make a 12-team CFP field isn't capable of being wrong in April. - JP

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

Hey JP, First, my intent was not to get your attention. I figured you're busier with more important things. I like your show and your persona. Thanks for your response. I'll cut a video response because typing it out is just too much. Also, I hope I'm wrong and I hope you're right about my Tigers. Again, thanks for your comment and Go Tigers!

[@drewwhitlow3142]

JP, I have a segment for you… Keep an eye on Clemson post April 15th, I think Dabo’s got a chance at finally being vindicated for his relational approach. It’ll be interesting to see how say an “FSU” holds together compared to Clemson.

[@raydripper101]

This man is the most realistic fan I’ve come across on here. Josh put Clemson in the top 10 on a earlier video and it made zero sense why…😂

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

Well thank you! I try to be realistic. Even I get shades of Orange and White sometimes

[@dp26385]

Top 10? Everyone is hanging onto the glory days, but those days are over for now.

[@CarolinaJackpot]

I think he put them in the top 10 programs, I’m not sure it was this year’s top 10 teams

[@raydripper101]

@@CarolinaJackpot y put fsu in for only two good seasons and Clemson for having 3 below average seasons in a row? Not even adding Texas in the top 5 for having 1 good season since Vince young? So idk if that’s what he was doing tbh.

[@porschepal7932]

​@@dp26385Those days will return a lot sooner than people think but most likely won't be this season.

[@blakeellis7417]

I like Josh. I been watching his takes for a while. He’s pretty down to earth usually.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

He’s very relate-able

[@christianwilliams1215]

Why the hell are we still going off about a damn spring game. We’re not gong to get a real look until the first few games

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

Because the past two spring games accurately predicted the following season and the offense (regardless of of the players who sat out) still looks the same.

[@jakefromstatefarm33]

Love Josh Pate! He is occasionally wrong, but that happens when covering the entire NCAA.

[@ChefDeCuisine_Bubba]

I'm just hoping the Danny Ford Mantra of "The best offense is a great defense" can hold true in this new age of football. But as Supertramp sang... I'm a dreamer, nothing but a dreamer....

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

HAHAHAHA, Channeling Supertramp. I like it

[@tylerbrown2700]

Josh Pate is a hack. The man does exactly as you said. Tells Nebraska and Wisconsin fans that they are elite teams in the off-season only for the fans to be disappointed come September.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

Haha, it sells and it gets views. Linda’s, Athlon, ESPN, etc all does it. That’s why Miami is a top 15 team every year

[@tylerbrown2700]

@@ClemsonFootballLive Top 15 until conference play you mean.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

Hahahaha

[@justinstockton9120]

Man I’ve been watching your content for a long time. Always loved it! I love that you’re down to earth, but from a fan standpoint, we all know the improvements Clemson needs. That being said, there is a lot to be excited about. I feel like you could balance being realistic and just being negative a little better. My fiance knows nothing about Clemson football but she heard me listening to your video one day and she thought I was watching a fan of another team just trolling everything Clemson does. I said no… this is Clemson football live lol not hating man, I like your takes on a a lot. Just giving feedback from a fan. Go tigers!

[@justinstockton9120]

Again please don’t take this as hate. I’ve watched all your videos and I’m not saying you’re always negative. I’m a fan of yours.

[@bennettconnelly7899]

I’m an optimist when it comes to Clemson football. But if we expect to have a better year with a similar offense we should not expect to make a playoff even in a 12 team format. If Cade can throw the ball forward and if Riley is the manager of that playbook, I think we can be okay. We can’t settle on either side of the ball. The recent hires I think shows improvement. But may be a few years before we put it together

[@danrapp1430]

Tuning in from the Seattle area (effectively a Clemson football fan desert) watching you present my own views on the state of affairs with Clemson football. I'm guilty of sending links to my friends back east to save me the trouble of bringing a dose of reality to the scene.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

Hahahaha, I’ll gladly be the fall guy! Thanks for showing up!

[@johnsettin7234]

I saw this from Josh. Personally, I think he was looking at the schedule and only saw 2 loses. Add to that, one of the loses is to FSU/DJU and he took an optimistic viewpoint.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

the first 5 games host the toughest teams of the season. The one thing we have going for us is that DJ will probably play inconsistent which gives us a chance. The NC State game is in Clemson.

[@TimeMachine7773]

I'm an FSU fan who has always liked Clemson. Watching that spring game though gave me confidence that FSU will have better QB play with a QB who was pushed out of Clemson.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

I'm not trash talking you, but both of our QB's are inconsistent. One minute, they look incredible. The next, they look like an FCS, 2nd string QB

[@sanfordtoole9923]

Great content. Not afraid to call it like it is.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

Well thank you!

[@rogerparks2373]

Josh Pate knows Clemson has talent and potential and "could" be a playoff team. He also knows the offense has struggled. Maybe he` has high hopes for the offensive line and receivers. Bring in a real QB coach and a real receiver coach and they could be elite again.

[@user-dw4fg2oe7u]

QB coach is Riley. We do need a better receiver's coach

[@rogerparks2373]

@@user-dw4fg2oe7u Yeah, but there haven`t been any dividends from Riley yet.But, I`ll admit i only get to see what the media puts out. I could be dead wrong and hope that i am.

[@tigertom2226]

Dabo has always maintained and conducted a sort of quarterback fixation in terms of his most highly recruited starter. Consequently; most of his backup QB’s find themselves spending most of their time warming the bench. He has had a few backup QB’s who probably could have held down a starting job elsewhere however; they were well underutilized at Clemson. Hopefully Dabo will adjust this trend now that he has to live within the shadow cast by the transfer portal, and give Pearman a real chance to challenge Klubnick and Vezzina. Can you say Stetson Bennett?

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

It would be a wonderful story if he (Pearman) became the next Bennett

[@JohnSmith-bq6nf]

I really think if Dabo used transfer portal we would be a playoff team. If we can get wide receivers and qb position going. The offensive line should get better with Matt.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

We will see

[@boweevil8390]

It’s going to be hard for Dabo to be successful in portal because he is not willing to cheat. Most of the good players are gone because of tapering before players actually hit the portal. Michigan is a prime example. Until there are severe consequences on the schools and the players who break the portal rules, its going to be hard for Clemson to compete in portal.

[@zachellenburg5738]

I completely disagree. Our defense continues to be top 10 in the nation without using the transfer portal. Our problem is our offensive coaching, specifically our development at qb.

[@SCcountry2]

If Clemson can get that offense rolling, doesn't have to do much, don't turn the ball over and that defense should be able to take care of the rest, this team should be able to go to the playoffs this year.

[@MotleyDawg034]

Not Happening

[@BrandonG81]

I agree with you. Should be a playoff team, but so should a lot more

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

Should be... until we consider the offensive staff and the results of the "near" past staff

[@joyfultrails]

Pate tends to be that way about most teams.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

He's an optimists. In his role, he has to be

[@jayerhardt8638]

I like josh pate, fella harris county guy BUT he sun shine pumps every team it is what it is

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

He’s good at what he does. Being kind to teams doesn’t hurt relationships. Fully criticizing them will ostracize him.

[@jayerhardt8638]

Josh also gets trashed talked by clemson 247 about how he hates "clemszin" ​@@ClemsonFootballLive He even talks good about auburn that dudes a bama fan lol

[@michaelcaldwell3181]

When we won the championships we had many future NFL players on offence. First round draft picks at QB, RB, WR , ect. We haven't seen that lately. Having a great defence will keep us in most games but I can't see us making the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong but I'm all out of kool-aid.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

I'm with you, sir. Unless we experience a miracle, no Playoffs

[@dru_g9207]

I think that in the future there should be highlight clips of the players that are not participating in the Spring games before the game. I have heard some other you tubers forget that some of the major players were not in the spring games. It really would hammer home the expectations of what we are about to watch.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

I understand. Mafah is one of my favorites and Briningstool is incredible. They will get theirs and we will win because of them. My concerns is with the Georgias and FSU’s who has the players and coaching to shut them down

[@porschepal7932]

​@@ClemsonFootballLiveI'm not worried about FSU. They lost so much from that team and it showed when they lost by 60 to Georgia. I'm worried about Georgia for sure though.

[@ronsmith2077]

With the new outside hires of o-line coach Matt Luke and Riley before that they may now be able to finally accommodate one another which would be huge. This may be where Josh Pates optimism comes from and I think he is on to something. Their defense and its depth looked amazing in the spring game. Offense still has that big question mark above their heads that will remain til after the Georgia game. . If they lose to Georgia it wont be a slaughter. Clemson's defense should perform well regardless of the offense but if they accommodate one another Clemson wins.All i know is that its good to be underestimated and Clemson has the talent

[@jameswilloughby2551]

I agree with you. I watch every late kick video and when he was talking about Clemson I thought the same exact thing. He is just wrong on this one.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

The Tigers' offensive staff (and recent "past") members have handicapped them big time. That's why I'm so down on the near future because they are still reaping what they've sown. AND they've sowed a lot of bad seed

[@kingsaco]

Josh Pate said the Clemson will be a playoff team. I didn't think he would be doing paid content.😂

[@LateKickwithJoshPate]

This isn't true. - JP

[@BIGE.productions]

hey brian been a fan for a little while now and I love your way of being not persuaded into thinking. However I tend to agree with Josh, We have so much to look forward to this season, im not saying we are going undefeated or anything but considering the amount of talent we have coming in, my question to you is do you not think Clemson will be better than they were last year? Because to me if we are we are a playoff team since playoff's are now 12 teams. I'm just saying we have so much to look/hope for and if it dosn't quite happen this year it's coming soon.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

First, thanks for the kind words! I appreciate your support. Two things: the way we lose to Georgia will determine a lot. If we play with them, maybe we’ve improve but if we get blown out, watch out. Second, how the oline progresses. That could determine a lot

[@christianwilliams1215]

What if we win lol

[@leegoldman7491]

Tell the truth even if your voice quivers..

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

I do my best

[@JJquick]

Well if you actually watch his show...he is optimistic with all the teams...even with teams he knows are bad...he gives them a chance based on talent level and coaches...etc...Josh has been wrong before and he absolutely owns it when he is...he has had to eat his own words before...which is why he is OPTIMISTIC not MAKING PREDICTIONS.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

I'm sorry my friend, haha

[@DaneClark-jz7lk]

If isn't a prayer!!!

[@curtisshull898]

You are putting way to much stock into a spring game lol..

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

Normally, I would agree with you. Unfortunately, our offense looks basically the same as the past two seasons even with Mafah sitting out.

[@raydripper101]

based on last season you would be smart to

[@zachellenburg5738]

Because we saw him last season, and he doesn’t look any better, despite Dabo and Riley saying otherwise.

[@austinholmes8993]

Clemson is making the playoffs guaranteed

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

Guaranteed? I hope you're right

[@xwingsports5856]

Wait is this Bobby

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

May there!

[@jbrock11]

Our offenses have never really looked great during the spring game. I thought all things considered the team looked good though. I agree with Pate.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

The defense is unbelievable

[@ecox1765]

You are good at what you do on youtube. Your honesty is extemely refreshing

[@guttarich10]

Clemson is a QB away from another run.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

yes, and maybe an offensive coach or two, hehe

[@handyfix2952]

Clemson has slightly less of a chance than NC State and slightly more of a chance than Louisville of making the playoffs. They have far less of a chance than FSU of making the playoffs. And no one even knows who is on FSU’s team. They seem completely content in the NIL era of just reloading every year.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

I think NC State will be a menace this year with McCall

[@domenicdurante966]

So Trent is better than Cade because he looked better in the Spring game? He'll get his chances if Cade stinks it up.

[@justmando9488]

Not necessarily. He did look pretty good in the spring game though. Which is better than looking mediocre in the spring game…like Cade has the last three years now.

[@Secdawg]

Josh pate is the sunshine and rainbows of cfb. Like pigskin peete is for Clemson lol.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

Oh come on; Pigskin is a realist like myself. Sometimes, we disagree, but we agree on a lot

[@hitwonder101]

How is he wrong? Just because one likes what he sees and the other don't, doesn't make him wrong. People are high on Georgia, I'm not, and that's ok. At the end of the day, people can have their own opinions, and just because it doesn't align with yours, doesn't make his pov wrong.

[@miggity6666]

PATE. STATE.

[@darrylprince827]

It's all about the views 😂😂 I hate to say it😂

[@tunit8946]

Who the hell is josh pate?

[@zacharyriley2501]

The only bad take is yours. First, no one sat out because they may get hurt. The only players that sat out had injuries. That’s a bogus take. Secondly anyone that can’t see the top was taken off the defense by wide receivers being back plus the addition of wesco is blind. You’re making this opinion off of a spring game. A glorified scrimmage. Pearman may have had a good day, trough is the rest of the practices matter as well. Dabo is right with sticking with Cade.

[@myfriend280]

This won’t age well. Clemson is going to win 10 games plus. Cade will throw 30 TDs. Mafah will be a Heisman candidate. That’s not optimism, that’s math. Too many Clemson fans have DJ PTSD.

[@HammerheadDawg]

Clemson didn't look bad in the spring game. It will be fine. We are going to do our best and see what happens. Take it easy on my Dawgs in Atlanta.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

You are very optimistic. I think the Dawgs will be a problem for my Tigers.

[@DaneClark-jz7lk]

Georgia not worried about clemson, a team who pragram. Loses to the likes of Duke. Clemson is has been jaugnaut .

[@daygon128]

Josh and the other KZbin commentators like J.D. Pickell are essentially glorified hype guys. Every video I see them do is like word salad. They say a lot without really saying anything. Nothing personal against them but it's just all hype.

[@ClemsonFootballLive]

They encourage their audiences. I understand why they do what they do.

[@LateKickwithJoshPate]

Still waiting to hear where I'm wrong. Articulating a team with this roster, these resources, and this staff should be expected to make a 12-team CFP field isn't capable of being wrong in April. - JP