Cleopatra Gets WORSE Netflix Director ADMITS Everything

[@disparutoo]

Queen Cleopatra on Netflix was always a show that had decided to change history. But before, you could only assume their reasons for it, many assumed it was done simply out of ignorance. But now the Netflix director herself has written an exclusive article for Variety and it's worse than anyone expected. Not only are Netflix getting sued by Egyptian Lawyers of Queen Cleopatra, but now experts who led Egyptian excavations and have even MET Jada Pinkett Smith are proving the Netflix documentary wrong. This story just gets crazier the more they try to excuse it, especially when they admit to being a "re-imagining" of history. But what did you think? Let me know your thoughts below and as always, thanks for watching :)

[@absynthminded]

My guess is the chick that took the job to produce this was not even the 3rd person they asked to do it. I'd be interested to see if I'm right.

[@alexfriedman918]

I never thought the issue was ignorance!

[@Darkshizumaru]

I'm more annoyed because I know there is a short dynasty of actual black pharaohs. Nubian conquerors who took over sometime before Alexander conquered the civilization. I mean it's historically accurate, it's a short dynasty but something most people don't know and would have loved it. Real black history in African countries getting ignored because Jada is a vagithug, it's my term for women who think that all history is too male oriented so they cant stand the idea of real history so they make crap up s women are the perfect rulers. Historically even Cleopatra was a party girl but they didn't like that so they pretend she's Iron man but a woman. Egypt becomes Wakanda in their tiny minds. Tis a sickness.

[@HailEarendil]

Fundamentally..this is about truth. And many of us are angry & tired of it being distorted to benefit those that don't care about it.

[@patriot639]

Can we not call Hollywood culture American culture. I'd happily chisel away the southern half of the state and let it go the way of Atlantis.

[@batmanforpresident9655]

Saying Cleopatra was a black woman is like calling Jada Pinkett Smith a loving wife.

[@ganso559]

Is like calling her rapunzel

[@APsychicMonkey]

Straight for the jugular, well done!

[@SpoonySamurai]

Toppo kekku

[@benjaminZ20]

Sheeeeeeesh.. Lol so fucking true

[@DeezNuggz]

ouch!

[@h7mostafa229]

Imagine telling Egyptians that they're wrong to be offended by their history being blackwashed. How dare she.

[@fiveduece52]

Imagine saying and showing Jesus as a white man

[@fiveduece52]

for decades it hasn't been a problem but a black producers depiction of someone is the end of the world

[@ladywinter2536]

@@fiveduece52 jesus was a jew . Many depictions of him are as a Mediterranean man .

[@universesays1842]

@@fiveduece52 i hope hollywood comes out with movies where stallin and hitler are black

[@fiveduece52]

@@universesays1842 if so it would be no more of a lie than all the history white people have told and created to cover lies

[@shannonstevens2476]

As an American that loves history, especially Egyptian history, I EXPECT documentaries to be historically accurate. If it's not, it's not a documentary.

[@MadamMonchimonchi]

The Mummy is more accurate at this point

[@jarrodscoggins3219]

Weʻll Just call it a work of fiction

[@freegedankenzurbaukunst5613]

US Hollywood Soft Power at work . As usual

[@lefuedebout]

@@freegedankenzurbaukunst5613 No, not soft power but black power at work!

[@Otokichi786]

At least The Discovery Channel referred to "Mermaids: The Body Found" (2012), as a Mocumentary. So, if Jada Pinkett Smith Doesn't call "Cleopatra" a "documentary," all will be well. But then, Nutflecks, eschews Facts, Evidence and History since "ancient times."

[@disslb]

It's not cleopatra.. The show is about jada's delusion or "how powerful and influential she would like to be"

[@GORILLABREATH1]

jada just needs a new entanglement !1

[@badumba5511]

@@GORILLABREATH1 Jada hasn't had an entanglement in a while, maybe that's why she's nuts about this.

[@catholic3dod790]

What is entanglement 101? 😂

[@arthurpendragon8192]

nobody in their right mind would want a woman like her in any position with influence since she would just be poison.

[@marniekilbourne608]

I think the only reason she did not cast herself is that she is way too old to play her but then again so is this actress. She was 16 when she first met Caesar I believe possibly 18.

[@Jeff-cn9up]

Director: "What bothers you so much about a black Cleopatra?" Greeks and Egyptians and history buffs: "What was it that bothered you so much about a Macedonian Greek one that you deliberately changed it?"

[@spirogiannaki]

Director, dont know what are talking about. Go back to elementary and study.

[@volourn9764]

And, they try to gaslight Egyptians over it. Lol

[@quinquiry]

in 20 y from now the woke teachers will tell kids that Einstein, Newton, Napoleon were black

[@scratchy996]

Director : "This is not even about Macedonia, Greece, or Egypt, it's about MEEEE !"

[@olympiahendrix4392]

too many drugs? low IQ?

[@davidpar2]

“We need to realize that Cleopatra’s story is less about her than it is about who we are” is pure gaslighting.

[@mydogsbutler]

Gaslighting Greeks is what those that lied by claimed the former Yugoslavians "Macedonians". Lies are funny. They have a habit of leading to more lies to cover up the first lie. Now Greek history has become a free-for-all for anyone to take it rather than whom it actually belongs to... Greeks.

[@mariasophia383]

AFROCENTRISM AGENDA they already calling us north Africans invaders and calling for violence and blood against us saying that these black Americans who are from western African descendant build pyramids in Egypt 🧐🧐🧐 therefore they are the OWNERS of Egypt 🤨🤨🤨

[@anthonypalo8191]

I still couldnt comprehend how that statement works 😂 I thought cleopatra's story was about cleopatra... I guess i was wrong though.

[@RavenCroftLoft]

I mean that could be a true statement if they did an honest production. Cleopatra was a Greek woman who ruled over not Greek people. Its really unfortunate because this could probably actually be really fucking interesting.

[@mariasophia383]

@@anthonypalo8191 no it's AFROCENTRISM AGENDA wants to replace and claim all ancient civilizations as black people's civilizations it's frustratin and dangerous

[@Anacronian]

Hollywood: "Pffft what does an Egyptian Egyptologist know about Egypt!?!"

[@lefuedebout]

... sweet F.A., apparently!

[@TheClassicWorld]

Hollywood: 'Using that many words starting with 'Egypt' is a red flag, mate. You are hiding something. I bet you don't even know what Egypt means! It literally means, "black-land, even after the Greeks came".'

[@DanielDroegeShow]

Whatever the apartheid rulers wrote in the books for them to learn?

[@herbertbielefelder341]

Her black grandma knew more...😂😂😂

[@naoz9228]

​​​​@@DanielDroegeShow Pov you one of the low IQ people that think Egypt was black when they have depictions of tanned people all over the colored paintings and statues with even women being lighter tan colored (that is how accurate they were being, women=stay in more=lighter=that was probably their beauty standards too, cant imagine what they thought of pure black ngl, don't blame me they didn't have wokism in ancient Egypt ok) Speaking of apartheid which Egypt isn't because Egypt variants have mixed through A LOT of differences from 300+years greek 600+years roman and so on, did you know Egypt and Sudan banned south Africa from the first ever african cup because south Africa was being apartheid and only wanted white people to play? Yea Egypt has never been an apartheid I'm not sure where you guys get your bs supply, people literally be darker or lighter tan depending on climate mostly Also my grandpa is probably counted as black by your weird standards of where tan stops and black starts but, you know what, y'all need to fkin stop being racist like that, like holy shi is everything y'all ever think about is color? Don't y'all get married and once u have children do u start labelling them or what?? The fk is wrong with y'all, that's not how modern life is, not just in Egypt, in general. Seriously. The whole thing is just pathetic just discrimination like "oh no egypt u dont fill the black quota for the stereotype of how Africans (a whole continent with many different regions and countries) should look like" that shi would be racist af if it was in white "you're not white enough" Fkin next thing we know we getting the pen test back.

[@evilbunz2519]

"I imagine her with her with curly hair and the same skin color as mine!" You should never start a DOCUMENTARY with lines about how YOU think the historic figure should have looked like. Especially when there are numerous examples of what she actually looked like.

[@olotocolo]

It's worse, in this shit he says that the beautiful think about Cleopatra is that we can all imagine her in different ways. Yes, that is what he says, following this with your quote. They think it's a marvel character

[@kinagrill]

I imagine the Chinese emperor to be fairskinned and very 'scandinavian'. This is essentially what that lunatic was saying XD

[@MaskedMan66]

@@kinagrill Yup!

[@David-ox7ps]

Cleopatra was able to accept her African and Greek heritage. To the Egyptians she was Isis, to the Romans she was Venus. You can be more than one thing

[@Inastewpopotogo]

@@kinagrill my grand parents told me that they dont care what my school told me, Martin Luther king WAS WHITE

[@RavenCroftLoft]

Director: "What bothers you so much about a Black Cleopatra" Disparu: "I dont know love, what bothers you about a Greek one" ME: THANK YOU SIR! a large THANK you from the Greeks.

[@markriggelink7074]

Greek is europe and they hate europe because they are anti White's

[@Vanillaqyoo]

👏👏✨️

[@shaqatwinters3180]

Before the Ptolemy dynasty you do know the Egyptians were dark right? The reason cleopatra is so famous is because she was a Caucasian women that sat on the throne. But a lot of history that has been taught is wrong. A lot of peoples race has been swapped in history

[@dizzyishere.]

@@shaqatwinters3180 they were Egyptians before. Not black. But there were black Pharaohs long before from Nubia. They had Egypt for a couple hundred years

[@shaqatwinters3180]

@@dizzyishere. that’s what I’m saying the Egyptians were black. When the Ptolemaic dynasty came around that’s when you started having caucasians sit on the throne in Egypt. Over time the original Egyptians where pushed further south. I’m honestly if I was Caucasian I would only talk about this small part of Egypt history too because is when Caucasians came in. The funny thing is Alexander’s people didint call themselves Greek until they defeated the original Greeks, Hellenistic period

[@donjindra]

What bothers me about Cleopatra being cast as black? The lie bothers me. Lies should bother everyone.

[@RoseBaggins]

What bothers me? You mean besides the fact that I don't care about your life story, Jada? You are not as interesting a character as you think, but that's narcissism for you.

[@donjindra]

@@RoseBaggins I'm not Jada.

[@AlexSBedini]

Apparently lies dont bother liberals!!

[@mydogsbutler]

Most people had no problem lying claiming the former Yugoslavians "Macedonians". To this day nearly everyone lies about it.

[@BayWa4eva]

​@@mydogsbutler what do you mean with that? afaik macedonia existed far far earlier than yugoslavia.

[@aimeekatekelly353]

I couldn’t believe it when I read that she said Egyptians were furious with her and she was okay with that , how disrespectful can she be ? It almost like she is intentionally stirring

[@iloveitUbet]

Turn that situation around and cities would be burnt down and people hurt ! The lack of intelligence they display and seem proud of somehow, is staggering!

[@l.b.9567]

Arabs came to Egypt in 639AD. Black people were there as kings thousands of years before that

[@iloveitUbet]

@@l.b.9567 please state your sources to support your claim.

[@l.b.9567]

@@iloveitUbet You must refute my statements with evidence. The ancient Egyptians wrote that they came from the beginning of the Nile. Tell me what year the arabs conquered Egypt?

[@mahmoudsalah347]

​@@l.b.9567 When arab conquered Egypt the Greeks was ruling this land and the local lived under their ruling no one moved to another land and my DNA have only 7% Arabic so just stop make yourself like you know and you just stu*pd just focus in your country and stop stealing other people country

[@ghostguru9156]

“I imagine her wit-“ she isn’t a fictional character you don’t get to just- decide what she looked like 😭she was a real person

[@MaskedMan66]

And anyway, we do have contemporary depictions of how she looked.

[@ahmedbbadran4311]

As an Egyptian, we suffer from this every day. Thank you for defending history. Black Americans have wanted to take over Egyptian history for decades

[@Bla_bla_blablatron]

you suffer from this Every day? that really made me laugh

[@sentinal2343]

"As an Egyptian" as a what ? ha ha simply deluded!

[@jorgeloredo100]

​@@sentinal2343so he's not Egyptian just because you said so? Lmao talking about deluded.

[@irisu-edits]

@@sentinal2343 huh? can you provide information as to why this is delusional

[@zamar2158]

Black americans are called african by others. Therefore they think they own all of africa. Just like they call chinese 'asian' znd so they imagine that all asians are mongoloid. Egypt and maghreb are Mediterranean people, olive skinned Caucasian. Not negroid. Dont let ignorance by lefty americans trying to pander to thei black populace upset egypt and its amazing history.

[@killerbye1985]

Now THIS is cultural appropriation.

[@rediettadesse2828]

Why are the whites the BIGGEST MOUTHS here ? you hv Europeanised Egypt in past movies too , it's non of white ppls buisness here

[@englishatheart]

But only white people can do that. /s

[@autisticscreechling4950]

Couldn't agree more! But they'll never admit it.

[@fromtheheavenlyrealms8613]

How is that when the Egyptians left drawings on their walls of how they looked? Why is that ignored for what people "want" to believe?

[@TheGalantir]

so are 99% of all their weaves.

[@namanhngovi2376]

This documentary is as faithful to history as Jada Pinket Smith is to Will Smith

[@drend182]

ouch !!

[@gayehunter-gornall9628]

Burn baby, burn

[@denkerbosu3551]

It was just an entaglement!

[@eo0-g9j]

they both got an open relationship. not just her

[@bethanywhite877]

Good one…lol

[@SupHapCak]

When they say “does a queen not have value if she’s black?” They’re really saying she doesn’t have value if she’s white in the first place, because they were the ones who felt the need to change it.

[@RenegadeContext]

It's a question that shows their insecurity. Why wouldn't a black queen have value? And why not make a documentary about any number of black queen's that existed? They don't seem to understand that noone cares if the character is black as long as they don't call it a documentary. If people were pissed for that reason then Hamilton would have had a huge backlash. Lin Manuel never claimed any of the historical figures were black or other ethnicities and that's why it was ok to have those incredible actors play those roles

[@Cman04092]

Yes, this is the difference between the little mermaid, and an actual documentary. Then again, I'm not egyptian, I'm not the one who's pissed her, i just think its disgusting, but imma forget all about this in 10 mins. Now the little mermaid is problematic, but for a different reason. I find it problematic because hollywood has basically said "black people deserve representation, but only if it's low quality sloppy seconds."

[@jesus_is_my_spotter]

As an American, we do not as a whole want to change history to push a narrative. Most of us think this is stupid

[@KemetledAfrica]

Americans has made loads of films with white people race swapping. You lot invented the black and white minstrel show.😮

[@fidbob]

As an american, you probably think the US defeated nazi Germany in WW2.

[@steprockmedia]

And I feel bad that we're exporting all this nonsense and frustration to everyone else. Much of the world just wants to watch a nice movie and enjoy some popcorn

[@demoulius1529]

As a non-American im not assuming most want to push that narrative. But that a small band of very troubled individuals are.

[@Handepsilon]

It is unfortunate that a lot of them are in high position than the saner people. Kinda sad, really

[@Jackie89000]

"What bothers you about a black Cleopatra?" Same thing that would bother you about having Mel Gibson play Malcom X.

[@autisticscreechling4950]

Or Brian Cranston as MLK or Meryl Streep as Harriet Tubman.

[@the_omg3242]

@@autisticscreechling4950 Brian Cranston is a good actor. I'd totally watch that.

[@salt4hatersmaitre702]

I do think that your example isn't really accurate, as Malcom X was an activist for the black people rights (and was himself black). So this point matered in this situation. But regarding Cleopatra we acknowledge the probably untrue skin color in the netflix representation but how does it after the story in itself ? Why americans are this much into race war things? i'd ask the same question to the show runners and to the people complaining about the skin color of Cleopatra in this show.

[@MKR5210]

Actually I'd pay to see that 🤣🤣

[@LargeInCharge77]

@@salt4hatersmaitre702 the difference is they put a bunch of money and effort into trying to convince everyone of a lie, while calling it out it easy, free, and honest.

[@MarthaAnthony]

'What bothers you so much about a black Cleopatra?' 'I don't know love. What bothers you so much about a Greek one?' 😂🤣

[@TheFiddle101]

In fact, it would have been wonderful to have black directors and screenwriters involved in writing a credible Ptolemaic Cleopatra. Years ago, Steve McQueen, a black British director, directed Hunger, on the Northern Irish hunger strikers, who eventually died. It was powerful and my Irish friends did not have a problem with the director's skin colour because he did not need to race-swap to produce quality.

[@MarthaAnthony]

@@TheFiddle101 You're right, it's about talent and empathy, regardless of skin colour. Virtue signalling seems to get used to distract from a lack of these, in fact, it seems to reduce our empathy in a vicious cycle. What does it teach us about our 'çommon humanity' when people say we can only understand others from our own race? It's like they think a different skin colour makes someone a different, unrelatable species... And explain how that helps people overcome these issues ...

[@Erowens98]

As a Scandinavian. I very much relate to the Egyptians having their history stolen and re-written. We've been suffering the same for decades with shows like Vikings directly contradicting the evidence of what our cultures where like.

[@michael3088]

As an Anglo-Australian double national I equally cringe when they portray both Vikings and Anglo-Saxons so differently from one another especially considering they came from sister cultures who weren't really all that different like they could litterily understand each other's language at the time.

[@cwavt8849]

The Vikings is no more meant to be a documentary than was Blazing Saddles or A fistful of Dollars. The difference is that the Vikings was always pure entertainment. Cleopatra was titled as a Documentary. BIG difference

[@Erowens98]

@@cwavt8849Especially early on, vikings was marketed based upon its "attention to detail" and "cultural accuracy". Though of course being based on Ragnar Lothbrok in of itself excludes it from historical accuracy. You are however right that it was never claimed to be a documentary of any sort.

[@ivorkovac303]

it's actually a good sign that most people think it's stupid. It shows that there's still a significant amount of people around who still have working brains.

[@bethanywhite877]

Agree

[@Kujien]

Yeah I'm really surprised about the dislikes, it's a bit reassuring

[@LTDoge-dm3jr]

Believe it or not. But the only person who would not be offended by this is woke americans. The rest of the entire world sees this for what it is. American blackwashing by those who are most vocally against racism who are themselves openly racist. Anyone would find it disrespectful to see their culture and history vandalised for a group of people who have no connection to said culture/history

[@Dante02d12]

To be fair, people can easily create an algorithm to destroy a product's ranking on a website. That kind of review bombing is indeed problematic as the final rating doesn't reflect the population's true feelings towards said product. There are cases where there were legitimate review bombing. I remember on MyAnimeList, the ranking of an anime's season 3 (Chihayafuru, I think?) had been review-bombed and it was visible statistically because there was a surge of thousands of votes on a single day.Yyou could see the spike because the show would usually earn hundreds of ratings before _and_ after that day. It was statistical proof of false decrease, as there was no reason for that spike to exist. But today, the shills (sorry, """journalists""") call out review bombing whenever there is a poor reception. It's just used as a dismissive damage control tactic. It's insulting for the consumers, it's disingenuous, and it shows the creators' true nature.

[@serbanalexandriuc6170]

The only issue is that they insist calling it a documentary. This is false advertising and should be prosecuted as such.

[@manoz6194]

Looks more like a mockumentary

[@Atheismo9760]

The only issue is the race swapping.

[@ianesgrecia8568]

This is as much of a documentary as the Titanic movie

[@DrakeSilver]

​@@Atheismo9760 so... it has a massive issue then? The entire point of a documentary is to gives us what is FACTUAL things and put it into the screen. Anything else and it already fails as a documentary.

[@Atheismo9760]

@@DrakeSilver Yes. I don't see why you're responding to me.

[@batmanforpresident9655]

There are many historical black African queens: Amina of Zaria, Nandi of The Zulu kingdom, Makers of Ethiopia (the queen of Sheba) and Kandake, the empress of Ethiopia, to name a few. Why can't Netflix make an original movie about them instead of race swapping?

[@DeezNuggz]

because its about dividing people, thats the end goal. pit the races against each other so they dont look up and notice whos pissing on their heads.

[@cozzie4ra]

Because they lack the talent to do so.

[@dariovirga7711]

I'd dare say Cleopatra is more popular and these guys can't find Ethiopia on the map

[@richardnellson5257]

Queen of Sheba would be the obvious choice, I would think!

[@fantasticmrnox]

Coz that director want to stir the pot. And she did. I'm sure she's gonna be hired for more directing gigs (maybe not)

[@PenTheMighty]

It's a shame we have to sit front row and witness why Pinkett is just a toxic person and why Will looks so tired. A person that gets off on stirring the pot and causing drama is not a good partner unless they work to change that part of themselves. Pinkett not only isn't willing to change but appears to enjoy making people uncomfortable in order to control them. The best thing that we could have done is ignore her like we ignored her music career.

[@Cman04092]

Will smith deserves her at this point, and i don't feel bad.

[@thayilakshmi]

I genuinely feel bad for Will.

[@_Merovingio]

I hope the Egyptian Government gets involved and drag both the Director and Producer through the courts and sue them right into bankruptcy, that's the only way these people are going to learn.

[@Mohamed-_-Hassan]

The fukin* Egyptian government don't care about any thing . They just care about how to kill Egyptian people who want better life and better education , Egypt now is ruled by slayers and Thieves.. And btw they killed the elected president .

[@annepowers4734]

A Different World needs in on that suit as well. They taught that nonsense, episode of Whitley teaching black children in school thar Cleopatra was black. This is more yhan likely where Jada got this from.

[@mahmoodali5043]

A law suite has already been filed by an egyptian lawyer Governments do not sue studios, individual citizens can and do though

[@_Merovingio]

@@mahmoodali5043 🤣🤣🤣 maybe not in the US I can perfectly recall the lawsuit filed by the Egyptian Government against a DW journo called Al-Aswany, that happened not so long ago and yes it's not the first time it happened. Are you by any chance Egyptian?

[@mahmoodali5043]

@@_Merovingio yes and I do not recall any lawsuits by the government against Al-Aswany who is a famous (infamous in my opinion) journalist living in egypt still and free to

[@menaatefadly]

Dude, actual Egyptians are severely pissed about this whole debacle and we dont even get close to denying that she was a Greek woman who ruled Ancient Egypt

[@bottomlefto]

shows how these americans don't respect other cultures at all and think to themselves that the world would be better (for them) if everyone acted like them.

[@gembearer67]

Macedonian descent

[@l.apastore4208]

She was Greek descent. Only 25% Greek is accounted for. Historians are unsure whom her Mother was, nor are they sure who her Grandmother was. So she could be a mixture of Greek and Berber, Greek and Nubian, etc who knows.

[@8wayz2shine]

@@l.apastore4208 or she could be 100% greek - there are coins, statues and family history that are well documented. The family history being that they never married outside of their strata and even resorted to inbreeding to keep it in the family.

[@menaatefadly]

@@l.apastore4208 yea but the main point is she was known to be Greek and none of us deny it. We had many non Egyptian rulers that we loved like Mohammad Ali who made modern Egypt

[@franzrogar]

The old lady: "My grandmother told me in the school they teach lies..." Right... Let me tell you one thing: "Your grandma LIED to you miserably and you believed her".

[@juanpablosaenz9037]

Grandma is right about everything except Cleopatra.

[@dizzyrick7653]

If her grandmother ever actually said anything like that at all.

[@Gotofy105]

What is so stupid with what this director is doing is she literally could have just said it was a Cleopatra inspired character and she could have done whatever. I don’t understand why this has to even be a documentary!

[@AD-dg3zz]

This whole thing would not have mattered nearly as much if they simply called it a docu-drama or historical fiction. The level of arrogance, and the inability to view race outside a western context is staggering. Even if she hadn't made this blunder and made a series on powerful women that were actually African, it still feels weird to lump them all together as "black" because they most certainly would not have identified themselves that way.

[@comedicsociopathy]

​@@AD-dg3zz *US-American context Except some woke bleeding hearts, Europeans don't buy those old ass race theories.

[@lilyblossom1240]

Afrocentric The belief that they were literally every group important in Africa and they were also the Jews and Native Americans. You know because cultures can never have things that look alike but aren’t the same thing.

[@rorykeegan1895]

Its not a documentary, its another bit Hollywood rubbish. Only if you are massively intellectually challenged could you begin to think it was a documentary.

[@rorykeegan1895]

@@AD-dg3zz What is with Americans? Why are you all so fucking dumb? Really. Calling it a "docu-drama or historical fiction" still perpetuates your collective crass ignorance of history. What can we expect next from the book burning, science denying Americans? Go put your head in a bucket.

[@Mangaka-ml6xo]

She was probably among those who complained when HBO's series Chernobyl came out. For those who aren't aware, at that time there was complaining regarding the lack of representation in the show, you know, a show about a place part of Soviet Russia in the late 80s, with characters based on individuals for whom we have videos and photos of and no ambiguity regarding their skin color. Made me facepalm hard when I read that.

[@persieprince9345]

Inferiority complex

[@bethanywhite877]

I heard that too.

[@morriganmhor5078]

The same about Kingdom come: Deliverance. North of Pyrenees and Alps in 1400 there were probably about 10 Blacks altogether do they were underrepresented!

[@wizardgaming6759]

I remember Dunkirk having the same complaint.

[@sandralachance1424]

I agree. IF we make an accurate representation of, let's say, a Danish settlement in 350 ce, people would not like what they will see in term of representativity. Every slightly coloured skin (or heavily coloured) would be slave, along with a LOT of pale skin slave, but it seems that doesn't count. As Whites, we can be depicted as slaves, as long as they are not. Tell that to the white slaves women from the white trafficking today, they will be glad to ear it.

[@keithmichael112]

Who are you going to believe, actual archaeologists or someone's grandma

[@shoelessjoe5990]

Please don’t ask that - there are way to many idiots out there.

[@James_Bee]

Someone's grandma is an archeologist, so... GRANDMA!

[@Homeschoolsw6]

Her grandma may not have even said that.

[@arks_knights]

@@James_Beean archaeologist grandma who has Alzheimers and dementia

[@primmakinsofis614]

Look, what those Egyptian historians know about Egyptian history is nothing to compared to what the film's director knows about Egyptian history!

[@AshCosgrove]

Me: "What evidence do you have that Cleopatra was black?" Grandma: "Trust me bro."

[@flacodeltoro6675]

😂😂

[@Ajbajnificent]

Fortune teller: :also trust me bro". This is a SCIENTIFIC FACT.

[@thespyingeyeofmordor]

Sekhmet and Tuthmose: Into the crocodile-infested portion of the Nile you go.

[@ericpode6095]

Ancient Alien level of facts.

[@wilburtmoreno469]

Grandma:” trust me bro. I don’t listen to teachers, so dont listen to me too”

[@aff77141]

God they REALLY shouldn't have gone for a documentary angle or they just mightve gotten away without the entire world blasting them. Like they literally just made up every detail, treated it as fact, and expected to get away with it

[@SpoonySamurai]

When making shows about historical figures it should NEVER be about "how you imagine them". Thats absolutely insane. I would get canceled if i made a documentary on barack obama.

[@everythingisbizzaaaaaro3694]

If you ever make that documentary, race-swap him.

[@conormurphy4328]

In my mind Obama is Vietnamese

[@tonyclements1147]

Let's kickstart a MLK film with Bruce Campbell as MLK, and watch the internet implode.

[@hoof31]

​@@tonyclements1147 Can he Have Chainsaw hand i always imagine MLK hand as Chainsaw

[@theVictor-isVonDoom]

@@hoof31 I'd watch

[@PresGrove]

Can we just throw Jada away, I’m so sick of her trying to inflate her own ego

[@adamdelarozza1985]

she is angry that she does not matter and know she never will.

[@TheBandit7613]

All the Smiths need to go away. From the tranny kid to the slapper. Done with them.

[@fluffdumpling8515]

@@adamdelarozza1985 Indeed. SHE is a real dragon.

[@libertas5005]

@@fluffdumpling8515 Hey! Dragons are cool creatures wtf! She's a poison drake, lesser creature than a dragon, but vile and not noble at all.

[@fluffdumpling8515]

@@libertas5005 🤣

[@Hadgerz]

Every time they ask the question 'what bothers you about a black Cleopatra?', what they're really saying is 'Cleopatra's Greek heritage bothers us' and we know why, because it counters their revisionist Afrocentric ideology. The great part about this is that none of this would have happened if they hadn't gone and tried to call it a documentary, people would have just been calling out the Afrocentrism instead of *_actually filing lawsuits._*

[@KemetledAfrica]

Exodus gods and kings was banned in Egypt because it was Eurocentric crap.

[@talisa222]

It's literally the same thing that bothers them about a fully Caucasian, Western European Cleopatra--it's historically inaccurate. Honestly, these people are hypocritical bozos, their question can be answered with a few words. They always have to make it so complicated.

[@uberwarlocker]

This might make the "we wuz kangz" larpers become more insufferable.

[@tatjana4503]

I say, let the lawsuits begin. Maybe if they're broke, we might get some actual good content in media again.

[@x73chevelle]

@@uberwarlocker we wuz quaynes n shiet

[@averybishopmartin6964]

This isn't a historical drama, this is a self-insert fanfiction

[@kinagrill]

It's a Blackumetary.

[@chumpess]

Imagine if Egypt or Greece decided to make a docu-series about someone like…say…Rosa Parks. And they decided to make her Middle Eastern, or Greek. Can you imagine the backlash? The directors would never be able to leave their homes, let alone work again.

[@jaenie389]

I will gladly support that movie.

[@luiselugo9713]

Double standards

[@Thiantrus]

Thats why i say they so quickly wanne change white actors and char in movies and even history now to black char but lets do it to figures like Nelson Mandela and change him to a white man and see how they will burn and destroy everything.

[@ng.6180]

Thank you 💁‍♀️

[@dancam9110]

I'm going to make a biopic about MLK and cast a White guy to play him.

[@J.E.R.O.M.E.]

*"My grandmother said..."* That's the reason people think their family heirlooms are worth millions and their father is really their father.

[@likeorasgod]

I remember watching one of those DNA history KZbin and this girl was all excited to find out her African history. Well it came back like 80% European. She was all upset and said they must of been slaves that the master raped and such. She talked to her mom who told her to ask her grandma. Come to find out her grandma's mother was white, fell in love with an African man while on a missionaries visit to Africa. Got married and later moved to America. There was no rape, no slave owning, just a happy couple that found each other and got married. That was why they where lighter skinned black not cause of anything esle.

[@TheClassicWorld]

@@likeorasgod Also leftist: marriage is both rape and slavery. Mic drop.

[@denkerbosu3551]

@@likeorasgod Let me guess, was she frustrated when she heard her grandma wasn't gRaped?

[@Unwoken_European]

"My granny, who could barely read, did most of my education." :-D

[@BrigitaMencigarJb29m]

🤣

[@maravreloaded]

13:27 The whole _"this isn't about her it's about US"_ describes the whole woke movement. This isn't about story or being right it's about feeling SUPERIORITY to others. It's an _exercise of _*_PURE BLATANT NARCISSISM._*

[@sarbear0214]

I saw that and thought, “isn’t that belief disrespectful to Cleopatra herself?”

[@s3.14dervision]

I was just about to post the same thing!

[@AfriasporaFilms]

But isn’t that exactly what white people have been doing for the last 400 years, at least?

[@nikkili8944]

Amen to that! Not only is wokeness a cult/an ideology that celebrates narcissism but also attempts to rewrite history a.k.a. historical revisionism to suit its agenda. In its core it's anti white/anti European.

[@AfriasporaFilms]

@@nikkili8944 when history is whitewashed and full of lies, as it has been for the last 400 years, it needs to be rewritten.

[@pandayy8865]

"We need to realize Cleopatra story is less about her than it is about who we are" That's like saying "my opinion doesn't represent me!"

[@moseszero3281]

The director making 'surprise pikachu face' at someone else not being COMPLETELY absorbed with gender and race is the most telling part of this. Another entry in the cult of narcissism.

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

I want Will Smith to play Donald Trump in the Netflix documentary. And I want Disparu to play Barack Obama.

[@furnoprime9439]

@@valentinegonsalves7322 For me I want that one kid from the Game Awards to play as his Unorthodox Rabbi Bill Clinton

[@j.springer1496]

Historical accuracy is less important than letting young African American girls know that they too can fail conclusively and die from a self-inflicted snake bite.

[@ramonserna8089]

To be fair that snake bit was also a reimagine created by shakespare (but he never claimed he was writing a documentary)

[@tankmaker9807]

It is probable that agustus had her killed, however, she did fail, but she held out longer that other people.

[@debanydoombringer1385]

She did off herself, but we don't know if it was by asp.

[@borislav6561]

Jada wanted to make a series about "Black Queens," only to instantly run out of said "Black Queens" and have to resort to changing other queens to black 🙈

[@tkps]

I don't think it was just that. People have even named the odd one. She was just too bloody lazy claiming "African history is sparse". Well it will be if you describe individual countries/cultures as an amorphous blob of a continent. It also helps if you pick up the odd history book. But then that's all a bit too hard for HW types who've rarely stick their nose outside LA.

[@HufflepuffDaddy]

She should of did a documentary on the black females of Hip-Hop, called them "Black Queens" and would've gotten a better, more appropriate response.

[@giannisksanthopoulos4300]

Blaming only Jada just shows how shorted eyed ranged are you people here. Many stupid delusional people said that Cleopatra was black long long ago Jada Smith... But somehow you didn't now about it... Why? Why now

[@EyeOfMagnus4E201]

Well, Anne Boleyn was black. BBC said so, so she could have made a documentary about her being a black queen. 😉🤣

[@enkisdaughter4795]

There are loads of ancient Black Queens from Africa, but this narcissistic creature from hell wants to steal other peoples' history and ancient culture!

[@briancoyle9379]

This reminds me of the story of the production of the titanic film. Some random stargazer told james cameron he didnt align the stars correct to the time period and he went in and manually changed the stars in the sky to be historically accurate. Yet an entire nationality is telling this director "you are misrepresenting the race of a real person" and she says "good"

[@eldtritch_eel]

"He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past." - George Orwell

[@Sheppardsg1]

who controlls the medias controlls the world kane C&C

[@basedbane787]

​@@Sheppardsg1 🐀🐁🐀🐁s

[@draxrdax7321]

They should just call it a mockumentary instead and get on with it. Make it truly laughable, embrace the ridiculousness and stupidity!

[@AGS363]

Sadly they do not have any humor.

[@absynthminded]

You have to remember the chick who was told by a fortuneteller she was connected to the story, is delusional to start. She 'believes'.

[@HufflepuffDaddy]

Yeah, something like "This is Spinal Tap"! It would be a blast!

[@SammEater]

Asterix and Obelix is more historically accurate than this "documentary".

[@KimmminemWest]

Why is it stupid she has brown skin?

[@JaynaeMarieXIV]

As an American female writer and historian of color (who has studied Egypt with experts myself), I've always known Cleopatra was Ptolemaic Greek. She also wasn't hot (like she's always portrayed), but she was known for her charm and intellect.

[@tes918]

Well said! Did you notice all the Ptolemies were black! Alexander is rolling over in his grave!

[@WIKUS70]

So she was kinda hot.

[@Flodhesten]

I agree, while there are discussions about other influences, she is mainly described as, and comming from, a ptolemaic greek background. If I remember correctly, her native language is greek, and she is actually remarked for having borthered to learn Egyptian, something which most of the ruling class, most of greek heritage, did not. She chose to be Egyptian and embrazed the culture instead of holding on to her Greek background, and her choosing Egypt over Greece, is perhaps why the people liked her so much.

[@crusaderACR]

@@WIKUS70 Sources say she wasn't the most attractive woman ever, just average, but her mannerisms, charm, sensuality and intellect swept even the most influential men off their feet instantly.

[@churrothiev8387]

Don't you tell me she wasn't hot with that nose 😂.😂😂😂😂 I kid; I love natural human features.

[@Baensky]

The Big Question is how in the hell was she able to create this since fiction at the first place ?

[@PepitoBasado]

The part where Cleo introduced herself with her favorite pronouns in front of a bunch of little kids twerking in front of some black lords from Wakanda was so empowering and brave. A true love letter to Tolkien.

[@kailanerman5090]

Man...when Rey jumped in and said "I am Ironman" followed by batwoman I was FLOORED...truly Tolkiens best work

[@morticiag]

😂😂😂😂

[@mattosgood28]

We get it, you're racist.

[@mattosgood28]

And stupid.

[@SauceyFredo]

But how will this affect Lebrons legacy

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

My favorite part was when she said "The Ptolemys intermarried with the Selucid dynasty" Like oh....That other Greek family?

[@ulrichkristensen4087]

It was one princess, that married a Seleucid prince and actually killed of a whole dynasty, but nahh she does not understand facts

[@davidharrison3870]

Yes, she didn't seem to know.

[@qp9vp]

We had a similar situation in Sweden a couple of years back. They decided to make a "documentary" about the Swedish queens. It just happened to be full of modern political messages. Every king was made to be either a fool, incompetent, or cruel. And every queen was fantastic in every way; competent, intelligent, and adventurous. The worst part, though, was that half of the stories they told were completely made up or based on shaky evidence. So we had lesbian queens, queens having affairs, queens that ran the country in secret, queens that had a larger part of important international events than that actually had. Naturally real historians were outraged, but culture journalists and other journalists defended the "documentary" with very poor arguments. Critics were either anti-feminist or the critic didn't matter because the important part was to project a message to girls that women can or for entertainment value... Edit: There is nothing wrong with telling stories about things not mentioned in the history books such as a lesbian relationship. The point is that things shouldn't be described as true when they aren't or when the evidence is weak. Something real historians know. It's absolutely important to lift the historical figures that have been ignored by historians in the past because of ideological or racial beliefs. But there is no reason to race- or genderswap. The Swedish queens were interesting enough. There have been plenty of powerful or interesting women in, likely, all societies. By ignoring their history, and changing others, you are doing them a disfavour and actually just continuing on the old tradition of selectively choosing historical individuals and events to project your current political messages.

[@rayesafan9628]

Which is so sad that these girls will now have to learn that these “women who could”, actually didn’t. I am all for the fictional historical rewrite. Like Six, right? I love that in Hamilton, George Washington was black. It actually makes you think a lot more than just trying to claim George Washington was black or something.

[@Ajbajnificent]

Jeeesus. I am familiar with norse history and holy shit, it is full of amazing leaders and warriors, of "political drama" (i am referring to the christian conversion thing) of kings, wars and shit. Why the fuck would you want to fuck that up? You have the material to make good shit for years LOL. Hell, if you want "powerful females" you can just go to mythology and go hard on Valkyries, shieldmaidens and shit. You don't need to ruin actual history. TF.

[@nitro8529]

But every little girl can be a queen... No wait, you need to be born into royalty and than when you turn 13 or 14 youll be forced to marry some old disgusting guy thats king somewhere else. Or even better, youll be forced to marry and bang your own brother so the bloodline stays clean. Isnt that what every girl wants?

[@critica77y77]

@@rayesafan9628 Fictional historical rewrites are one thing. Writing a book where Abraham Lincoln fought vampires? Sure, why not? A documentary that is supposedly meant to portray things as they actually happened? You damn well have to get as much as you can right.

[@amronemhb]

That’s insane to hear. Thanks for sharing, its the same concept of twisting history

[@deadlineuniverse3189]

“I’m not the same as a German” Me, with a disappointing sigh putting the “Einer von Uns” sign away (this scene has been dramatised for entertainment purposes)

[@MegaMan-bs3oy]

That old woman is the type of person that would also say "my grandma said no matter what they say or do the white man hates you".

[@jessejames8900]

My momma said alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.

[@lopdizzle9941]

Well......might be on to something there

[@MegaMan-bs3oy]

@@lopdizzle9941 Oh pfft. Let me go tell that to my mixed gf of 5 years ha ha

[@lopdizzle9941]

@Mega Man homie I was married to a black women for 10 years. So you can miss me with that shit....I just call it like I see it.

[@akosipalpogi]

“What bothers me a lot about a black Cleopatra” is that this mini-series called itself a documentary when it is full of historical innacuracies. Kleopatra VII is of a Makedonian stock, mixed with a tinge of Persian blood (due to an intermarriage with the Seleukids), but not a Nubian nor a Kushite.

[@cyrilmagi6201]

And even the Seleukids had macedonian heritage considering their empire was created by one of Alexander the greats general much like Ptoleme had in Egypt.

[@proto-geek248]

Ty Wiki

[@davidcalado1]

The Seleucids dynasty was also Macedonian Greek.

[@akosipalpogi]

@@davidcalado1 yup, that’s true. Though one Seleukid have married a Persian princess, just like what Alexander of Makedon did. So whatever Persian blood Kleopatra had, she got it from one of her Seleukid ancestor. 😉

[@TrueFork]

This reminds me of shenanigans about the tenuously alleged tomb of Cleo's half-sister Arsinoe in Alexandria where some pseudo-scientists tried to argue she was part African based on a 1930ies era drawing of the (now lost) skull found in that tomb by using nazi-style phrenologic arguments. Some people seem to really want to grasp at any straw to argue that Cleopatra was black for some reason.

[@MrCovi2955]

I live in America, and still shocked on a regular basis by how many people think that all Europeans are the same ethnic group, and that Africa is a single united country.

[@jaceyking5015]

To be fair though, there's a lot of non-Americans who think America is just Texas and California. And then New York City is floating around somewhere.

[@theVictor-isVonDoom]

@@jaceyking5015 I mean it is tho

[@SuperSuperdude88]

how many ignorant people lump " white people" into a single category??? flaming racists thats who

[@Ajbajnificent]

Thankfully, most of us don't really give a shit about what most of americans think. Mostly because and no offense to you (you're clearly not a moron), we think most americans are fucking stupid.

[@henricusinstitoris2325]

Yeah I totally agree. I went to public school and remember how it was 20 years ago and it was bad then. God help us

[@kilssj2250]

"The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference." - Elie Wiesel

[@adamumagpire7848]

Love how Cleopatra saved the civil rights movement in America by beating King Kong in a fist fight...so brave.

[@johnmihelis1699]

Well, she did have help from Godzilla. If you recall, they were dating at the time.

[@cynthiasn6435]

Lol

[@tigerkahlua1609]

Also Cleopatra was trans FYI

[@user_mll374]

@@johnmihelis1699 Were they dating?? Or were they having an "entanglement"???

[@nelvisea8453]

@@bingodeluxe I thought Cleopatra was dating Mothra

[@Talviir]

"it's not about her, it's about us (me)"...narcissism runs rampant in these social justice warrior sociopaths.

[@lindastone6868]

Cleopatra was real, not "imagined", so can't be "reimagined"!

[@th3mous380]

True. "Misrepresented" might be more appropriate.

[@shanenolan5625]

Exactly

[@proto-geek248]

I think I re-remember, my grandmother reimagining the same thing.

[@nartali9683]

She was imagined a 1000 times to be snow white with blue eyes wich she wasn't, she had a Greek and Persian ancestry, she would have looked like any person who lives on the Eastern coast of the Mediterranean, and I don't think that you consider those white people if you know any thing about geography😂😂😂😂😂

[@PaulMurrayCanberra]

What bothers us so much? It's amazing how people who whine about being "erased" pretend to be shocked when other people also don't like it.

[@florencegabriel6683]

I'm of Egyptian decent and it has always made us angry when people try to make Egyptians all black. My family comes from a village called Asute where the worst thing we dealt with was inbreeding.....not something to be proud of but we are definitely not black. I know many other Egyptians feel the same way. Thank you for sharing this KZbin. Greatly appreciated.

[@AFarmerCalledChicken]

I’m so sorry for stupid Americans. We genuinely need to educate ourselves.

[@Red_burn459]

I only believe what my grandma told me

[@comedyentertainmentchannel5621]

ive met black egyptians and black moroccans but they are berbers from the sahara' North Africans are mixed.

[@florencegabriel6683]

That doesn't mean they are decedent's.....

[@comedyentertainmentchannel5621]

@@florencegabriel6683 actually yes they are moors berbers they are aboriginal Numidians but they are from the south in the Sahara' i know coz im BERBER Algerian and my family are mixed black and arab descent afro curly hair and brown skin.

[@VorkKnightOfGood]

Woke Americans: "let's change Egyptian history to make a political point in the US" Also woke Americans: "why is it that everyone hates America? Must be Trump's fault!"

[@eodyn7]

People don't hate America. You're literally on an American website as you speak.

[@Blodhelm]

Both are valid. Trump revised US history in a speech as he talked about George Washington storming the airports during the revolutionary war. He also loves Putin and Kim Jong Un, so not exactly popular in a lot of places.

[@zadaofficial8091]

​@@Blodhelm "he loves putin and kim" LOL. If by loving you mean he made them his bitches, yea Putin wouldnt dare invade Ukraine had he been in power.

[@mugiwara7347]

​@@Blodhelm whats bad with liking putin and kim and also airports didnt exist in the time of Washington so it was a joke.

[@roberts5539]

@@mugiwara7347 yes, everything trump says and does could be described as a joke. Sweeping forests, injecting disinfectant, staring at the sun.

[@insane_troll]

Any sentence that starts "I don't care what they tell you in school" is liable to go badly.

[@liviuursegr]

17:24 Fortuneteller to Jeda: "I see big things orbiting UrAnus"

[@markgregorygacosta531]

Netflix: Makes a series entitled CLEOPATRA Also Netflix: "It's all really about us" Pinket Smith: "It's really about me"

[@Ajbajnificent]

If she would be truthful, its all about her cheating with someone new but who am I to talk. Just ask her. She would be definitely happy to tell you. LOL.

[@stephenthomas1492]

Pinket probably has more European genes than African ones anyhow. Her skin tone and features don't scream African to me.

[@markgregorygacosta531]

@@Ajbajnificent Pinkett Smith's simp husband could be waiting by the door to slap someone, so no thanks.

[@ramonserna8089]

All human history is about Jada (in her mind). The rest of humankind are just extras.

[@thatHARVguy]

Seeing how Netflix backed Cuties, maybe she wanted Netflix's help to find a new "entanglement"?

[@Stealth86651]

"Less about her and more about us...". Duh, that's one of the biggest problems with Hollywood all of a sudden for some reason. Directors forgot that people go to movies to *escape* reality, see alien worlds, or scenarios that don't usually happen. Not some shut-in poorly adjusted directors self-insert. Just goes to show you don't have to be particularly intelligent or actually skilled to get a job.

[@SammEater]

Also, they really are alienating foreign audiences by making everything under a californian view of reality.

[@marychocolatefairy]

I went to the director's wiki and I believe I have found the problem. This is the order in which it lists her professions: "activist, artist, director, screenwriter." lmao.

[@Handepsilon]

Well, "escape the current reality" is probably a more accurate term if we're talking about a documentary

[@Blodhelm]

"It's not what you know [in Hollywood], it's who you know."

[@HenshinFanatic]

​@@Blodhelm and who you blow.

[@MariaNI-yf1bz]

Saying Cleopatra was a sub saharan African is like saying Jada Pinket Smith is a loyal wife. So sad to see new world populations try to dictate or try to tell old world populations about their history and who they are and/or should be and how new world color labels are used to "define" ancient history/people. Thank you for mentioning that too. No one does this or exposes this distorted world view since its indeed the main cause why this confusion still continues.

[@freeboydebo14]

Neanderthals 😂 your brain just like how your ppl are 😂it’s in Africa she African. Now if you found Cleopatra in Europe then say she white but she African found in Africa with African dna

[@franknbeans8904]

Especially since as so many people are saying, that if they wanted to portray black history from Africa, they could have picked one of the major black African queens. If they wanted a famous person, well portraying them on a public viewing platform (like Netflix or the movies) is one way how they get famous.

[@GORILLABREATH1]

she's been oppressed

[@Ouseabour]

Lately, I was remembering quite a lot that phrase of Santayana: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it". History is is as it is. Trying to changing it, either for ignorance or for the convenience of a political agenda, never leads to anything good.

[@TraysonMartin]

Its honestly crazy to me that instead of doing a documentary series on the 25th Dynasty of Egypt, the Nubian Dynasty also known as the Kushite Kingdom, which actually ruled over Egypt for a lengthy period of time, they instead chose to black-wash a historical figure, because she is "well known." Honestly a docuseries focusing on the various Kushite kings of Egypt would be a nice series and honestly a pallet cleanser considering it actually happened and can serve as a basis for another potential series on the founding of Ethiopia.

[@RoyCyberPunk]

They Ignore the Nubians and other actual Sub-Saharan African kingdoms because it doesn't fit the Globalist Left narrative they created with Murican Afrocentrism in which is all about victimhood and the nauseating idea that Sub-Saharan Africans are utterly incapable of any self worth and therefore can only be validated through tokenized repainted Caucasian fictional characters and historical figures which has now expanded into the entire planet as Afrocentrism currently posits that the world was solely populated by Sub-Saharan Africans and at the same time that all historical figures worldwide in all of recorded human history were Sub-Saharan Africans from Gengis Khan to Sitting Bull. This is literally the core belief of modern Murican Afrocentrism.

[@morriganmhor5078]

That dynasty lasted for 90 years and they were taken as foreigners by the Egyptians, just as Assyrians, Persians, or Greeks.

[@RoyCyberPunk]

@Morrigan Mhor They were accepted as pharaoh dynasties they embraced every aspect of Egyptian religion and culture which includes the customary inbreeding.

[@MAAT1111]

BEFORE EGYPT WAS CALLED "EGYPT" IT WAS CALLED "KEMET," LAND OF BLACKS". WE NEED TO CALL IT'S PROPER NAME OUT OF RESPECT "ANCIENT KEMET" . IT IS WELL DOCUMENTED THAT THE AFRICANS OF ANCIENT KEMET ORIGINATED FROM THE FOOTHILLS NORTHERN PART OF THE NILE(THE NILE FLOWS FROM SOUTH-EGYPT TO NORTH-NUBIA) IN NUBIA. NUBIANS ALSO RULED KEMET (EGYPT) AS WELL. Also, to add, THE MELANATED "BLACK" WOMAN was scientifically proven TO BE THE ORIGINAL SPECIES ON PLANET EARTH( MITOCHONDRIAL EVE), which means that I AM INDIGENOUS TO ALL 4 CORNERS OF MID-GUARD EARTH. I find it disturbing that Dark skinned people have to now prove our pedigree (Moors, Hebrews & Jews), when we were here since the beginning of time. South African descendants of the Caucasian colonizers that killed to inhabit that land even claim to be indigenous & they have only had power for around 100 years. 300 Years from now Obama, Tupac & MLK, Jr will have light skin, blue eyes & straight hair in photographs if you allow this racist man to bully you out of millions of dollars. The walls in the temples clearly show African people before the INVASIONS & artifacts that were stolen have AFRICANOID FEATURES. Even the term "AFRICA" came from a Colonizer. AFRICA was called Alkebulan .

[@morriganmhor5078]

@@MAAT1111 Kemet is "land of the black soil". Return to school.

[@denvan3143]

I remember my grandmother telling me “No matter what they tell you in school, Abraham Lincoln was the first man on the moon.“ We had to put grandma away.

[@andyusfca]

You killed her?

[@GabrielArchon]

​@@andyusfca away, not out

[@mjones4083]

& Hamilton was black - just like the little mermaid.

[@manher4335]

Aww man. You pulled an "old yeller" on grams? Had to take her out back? Lol

[@denvan3143]

@@manher4335 no, we put grandma in a retirement community, where she met a man who calls himself, Abraham Lincoln. They are both very happy.

[@mkroliki]

"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute." George Orwell - 1984

[@Rabbitsarewonderful]

You covered this better than anyone and made it funny too. Thanks for the information and the laughs! I cant wait for Saturday Night Live to take this on.

[@MaestroSmoke]

"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." - George Orwell, 1984

[@BrigitaMencigarJb29m]

😢

[@natalieanimal4063]

It seems Newspeak, destruction of words, pronouncing family as an outdated and harmful concept, vaporizing (cancelling) people, creating the truth, labeling people as thought criminals then having them believe they 'didn't even know I was, it just creeps up on you'...have also become real. Not even Orwell predicted it would be about race, gender and such though.

[@-newuser-707]

@@BrigitaMencigarJb29m Yeah. It's sad. Really, especial when a correction is offered and opposed.

[@olotocolo]

it's double funny as those people who want to multiculturalise, multicolorise history are also ones who constantly bitch about us racism in XIX century. Where did it came from? I was taught there were no racist throughout history, all rulers were all colors of the rainbow.

[@ramonserna8089]

When they lost me is when one of the "experts" said she entered the university knowing Cleopatra was black and no one could tell her otherwise. That is like entering a NASA program "knowing" the earth is flat and no one can convice you otherwise.

[@TrueFork]

"There is no evidence that Cleopatra didn't identify as black" - some woke university professor, probably

[@shaqatwinters3180]

If they can lie about Jesus being white then they can say she black lol

[@JohnGaltGurgi]

Thats as bad as believing your girlfriend when she says "size doesnt matter"....

[@sentinal2343]

we can prove the earth is not flat, prove Cleo is not black? weak comparison!

[@ramonserna8089]

@@sentinal2343 We have portraits of her being very much non black.

[@kentslocum]

When people give up on objective truth and decide that truth is subjective, we are in serious trouble.

[@Jbickley00]

The truth in history is indeed subjective, but it’s still based on evidence and here there is no evidence to support the show’s contention.

[@1234-m7w]

u mean like meghsn markles truth

[@q45ij54q]

Postmodernism in a nutshell.

[@Dravianpn02]

No one is supporting Netflix except for Netflix. The vast majority are against what they are doing.

[@solan7978]

Studies have shown that at least 40% of the U.S. population does NOT believe in objective truth. We ARE in serious trouble right now!

[@otavioscrp3976]

2:04 iit's like explaining that human beings evolved from a select group of primates, to a person who thinks we came from mud

[@Will_Parker]

You can't call something a documentary while knowingly and blatantly rewriting history, that's why people are mad

[@mydogsbutler]

Sort of like those thta rewrote history by claiming a Slavic people in the former Yugosalvian "Macedonians"? Apparently both blacks and Slavs were founders of the Hellenistic period.

[@richardweiss326]

Sounds like she took the subject matter as seriously as her wedding vows.

[@Ramsey276one]

THIS

[@ericthegreat7805]

😂

[@penguinjay]

Boom. Roasted.

[@divanbuys1484]

Zahi Hawass is not an Egyptologist. He's THE Egyptologist. He knows more about Egypt than anyone out there INCLUDING the BS showrunners

[@cattrissal3032]

He can lie like everybody else.

[@AviRox1154]

​@@cattrissal3032 Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. What do you have on offer?

[@Jbickley00]

@@cattrissal3032 yes but he doesn’t have a reason to.

[@yodasmomisondrugs7959]

No way he is holding and has been holding back Egyptology for decades cause that dude has a HUUUUGE ego and has to have his name tied to everything that goes on in that field of study.

[@VorkKnightOfGood]

@Cattrissa L it would be stupid to lie about something easy to check like Cleopatra's lineage... Also, what reason would he have to ruin his reputation?

[@NermineNa]

As an Egyptian, & also a human being with a little common sense & education, this whole story makes me nauseous. Even if it was fiction & not a documentary, good directors represent reality. Harry Potter movies are faithful to the books, even if Harry Potter himself didn't exist. No one would dare make a movie, let alone a documentary, about Malcom X starring an Irish actor with a heavy Irish accent. Hollywood was already pathetic but now it has reached levels of unprecedented arrogance & utter disrespect.Thank you for defending our history & culture!

[@SolidGoldCEO]

If representation actually matters, In reality there's less Greek representation in media than black.

[@only_fair23]

That makes sense though, I don't think there are many Greek Americans while there are plenty of black Americans. Greek mythology is very overrepresented tho

[@CatalinaLinal7710]

​@@only_fair23 though that raises the question of how well it is represented. I remember learning that Greece wasn't all too fond of Disney's Hercules back when it came out because it was just an US American company doing with their mythology whatever they want with no regards to approach most of it with accuracy or proper respect. How much worth is something being "overrepresented" when the way it is being represented isn't about the actual culture and people behind it, just the most Media-dominant country liking the aesthetic?

[@only_fair23]

@@CatalinaLinal7710 The country seems very happy to reap the practical benefits of overrepresentation though. Greece is one of the biggest tourist destinations in the world despite being quite a small nation and this is majority thanks to its significant representation in fantasy and media as a whole. Reminds me of Kazakhstan who were annoyed by the existence of Borat but we're happy to reap the benefits of tourism that it bought.

[@Songbirdstress]

The director literally said Jenifer Aniston, a Greek, couldn't play Kleo!

[@Facade953]

​@@Songbirdstress Lizzo on the other hand...😂🤣

[@corden9941]

Trust me, at least half of America is tired of this crap coming from Hollywood too.

[@surlyunicorn9461]

Exactly this isn’t “American” culture. It’s the byproduct of decades of Marxism being pumped out of colleges.

[@Blodhelm]

More than half, most people outside Hollywood writers' rooms and activist/journos I'd wager.

[@corden9941]

@@Blodhelm that's why I was saying at least half. Probably most.

[@SpectreBagels]

The difference between the other portrayals of Cleopatra from people who were not her race is that they WERENT TRYING TO CHANGE HER RACE. You at least have an argument that the other portrayals were close to what she actually look like skin tone wise, but you can't say that when you make her a dark skin black woman

[@malindamcpherson6156]

I agree with you 💯! The ridiculous thing is the accusations that Elizabeth Taylor was white washing Cleopatra when they BOTH were white . Although Liz was not Greek , she looked it . The fact that DNA prooves Cleopatra was white / Greek is disregarded to some bc in their DELUSIONAL/ JEALOUS / CULTURE STEALING APPROPRIATION thinking ..... she's black .

[@rclaws3230]

They depicted a white woman as Greek with Elizabeth Taylor; they're trying to make EGYPTIANS into BLACK AFRICANS with this brazen cultural colonization.

[@penguinjay]

shhhh, logical thought is now a wyte supreme pizza belief, I say this as a black man.

[@KemetledAfrica]

The person who played her is biracial

[@SpectreBagels]

@@KemetledAfrica That literally changes nothing because her skin is dark, specifically significantly darker than would be expected, and they are portraying her in a documentary about BLACK rulers. Also pretty sure you missed the point if what I said. The race of the person playing her doesn't matter if they LOOK the part. Not only does the actress NOT look the part but they are portraying her as BLACK and trying to make Cleopatra to BE black unlike the other incarnations of her. They weren't saying Cleopatra was white unlike these people trying to make her out to be strictly black

[@randomuchiha6126]

When i someone ask you why shouldn't a person be a certain way to satisfy my views and feelings based on some fortune teller stuff i would honestly just classify him as mentally insane. Like the amount of stupidity i feel i have been exposed to make me question the sanity of those people and if they even know what the word History means and how different it is from imagination

[@captaintoyota3171]

Yup more proof society rewards greedy and shameless. Not the intelligent or honorable. Seriously think about it those who can lie and con and step on others are the most successfull. Its sad and untill we acknowledge every human is greedy given the chance and sucess does not equal intelligence and enforce against corruption socoety is doomed. People think its socialism communism democracy constituional republics NOPE. NONE of those things have ever really existed. They are ideals they ALL get corrupted. So yeah its a human issue yet ppl are so caught up on hamster wheel of society they start believing insane stuff like this

[@riffmagos]

As a Hellene (you know, the same race as Cleopatra), all I can say is - go find your own ancestors. Jeez.

[@RR-ds4sd]

Awesome!

[@KemetledAfrica]

I think after nearly 300 years of her ancestors living in Egypt, she wouldn't have considered herself Greek

[@dustinw6088]

​@@KemetledAfrica the Greeks did though

[@KemetledAfrica]

@@dustinw6088 There are white Americans who ancestors go back to the early day of colonial America. Do they call themselves English. The answer is no !!!

[@dustinw6088]

@@KemetledAfrica no I'm saying the Greeks at her time considered her greek

[@CurtisRyanWoodside]

OK, as someone who was involved in the production at the very beginning, let me give you some scoop. I was interviewed by the casting director, which didn't go well. I gave insights into what the romans called Cleo, and that they did that as a way to disparage the Pharaoh who was a WOMAN, as Rome valued MEN more... My friend and agent, put me forward for this, but it was not until the interview 2 years ago that I found out she was going to be portrayed as black. The series was cancelled last year, as 3 producers had left because of the show creators outright racist drive to change history to fit her story.Finally over 6 months ago, they found a new director/producer and continued shooting. What I am most shocked about this, is that Joyce Tyldesly is the official historical adviser on this show, and she is "Thrilled". I know because I was this because I was involved. On Will and his wife, they are married, but NOT together. She sees other people/women, will dates other women too. A few years ago Will took some friends to Egypt, as well as his new asian girlfriend... this angered his actual wife because of her race, obviously. Wills wife was not invited. I have the images of them kissing at the sphinx, I've seen it first hand. Will has made statements he wants to play Nubian Pharaoh Taharka, which would be GREAT! But this Egypt trip probably sent Will wife into over drive, and decided to make a series on a queen of Egypt as black. Why not use an actual Black queen from Nubia? This all goes a bit deeper than what you all think.

[@suzygirl1843]

People are so triggered that the world is waking up to their bullshit. Whites can't survive in Africa, they get cancer. Look at the high cancer stats. Egyptians aren't white

[@gudduentertains]

Thanks for sharing. This family is nuts.

[@suzygirl1843]

@@gudduentertains Regardless, they still weren't white

[@jinxed4lyf763]

@@suzygirl1843 more related to white than black being Greek

[@CurtisRyanWoodside]

@@suzygirl1843 they weren’t black either. Egyptians are Egyptians. Black and white is a very strange concept. What is black and what is white? There’s many in betweens. But Egyptians always showed themselves as uniquely Egyptian.

[@Buzzard095]

When I was 20, I worked at Staples. I had a black manager, who was also a minister for a predominantly black church. Me and two other white employees, spent 20 minutes trying to convince him that Africa was a continent and not a country. True story. Jada went to his church maybe?

[@Trusteft]

Stupidity doesn't care about color.

[@CausticPuffin]

It’s also worth mentioning that the ancient Egyptians made some very large improvements to art, specifically to realism. They’re the first, as far as we know, to use proper proportions in art. It’s highly unlikely that they changed anyones skin color, as most of this art was religious, and highly venerated. The art would have been a nearly 1:1 copy of the subject.

[@khfan4life365]

Jada's definition of history is right up there with her definition of marriage.

[@mydogsbutler]

Jada is behaving little different than the former Yugoslavians that also try to plagerize Greek history. And those that ridiculously recognized them as "Macedonians" are behaving little different than the super-woke sorts that apologize for this ridiculous "documentary".

[@stormryder4305]

She is a milf. Her definition of history is, screwed up Will Smith.

[@mjones4083]

She just seems a bitter woman who never made it as an actress and has to settle for just being the wife of Will Smith - who could have done so much better then her of course .

[@bonglandgreg]

​@@mjones4083 she was so stunning and brave in the matrix. So stunning, so brave.

[@paultenhout2446]

I loved the scene where Cleopatra kicked baby moses in his basket into the Nile river shouting "This is Egypt!"

[@gayehunter-gornall9628]

You win the Internet today with comment ❤

[@TheLionessjudah]

The only reason Moses was in Egypt is because Joseph who was his ancestor, was sold by his brothers to the Arab Egyptian Ismaelites and they brought Joseph into Egypt and he married an Egyptian priest's daughter later. Cleopatra was not even born when Moses was alive, so that statement is laughable. Cleopatra was Greek not even Egyptian so that alone shows she was there because of her Macedonian Greek father who served under Alexander the Great who went into Egypt to conquer it and installed a Greek government to control his administration of Egypt. It may have been called Egypt but it was under Greek dominance. And remember later the Romans via Julius Caesar and Mark Antony both married Cleopatra and they were Romans and she had children by both men. Funny if that was a scene which shows how ridiculous that narrative reads.

[@bethanywhite877]

@@TheLionessjudah perfect explanation. Love it.

[@descension7419]

I believe that when it's intentionally inaccurate, but presented in documentary fashion, it's referred to as a "mockumentary".

[@iriswaldenburger2315]

But a mockumentary is supposed to make fun of the facts of what happened. This thing is deadly serious

[@GazzerYid09]

I'd call it propaganda

[@kevinarnold8634]

That's more when done with humorous intent. What would better suit is docudrama, which are dramas based on historical events with varying degrees of accuracy. Even more apt in this case is historical fiction, as it seems to stray further from the facts than even a docudrama would.

[@awuma]

There's been a constant barrage of comments for many years here on KZbin alleging that the ancient Egyptians were black. In fact, even DNA evidence shows that they were not, with the exception of the Pharoahs of the century centred on 700 BCE, the 25th Dynasty, who were Nubians and clearly Negroid in their portrayals. The Ptolemaic Dynasty, of which Cleopatra VII was the last, were Greek. There were Nubians in Egypt, e.g. as mercenaries, and they are clearly depicted with Negroid features. The Nubians themselves shared the Egyptian religion and many customs, e.g. pyramid building, though Nubia (Sudan) was a bit like Scotland to England or Ukraine to Russia, often dominated and exploited, but sometimes with the tables being turned. This American movie is an embarrassment, to say the least.

[@JAFTW]

My favorite part was where Jada slapped Cleopatra, saying "keep my wife's name out your f'ing mouth". So powerful.

[@Ofelas1]

8th generation in Egypt, she was Egyptian of Macedonian heritage.

[@bonglandgreg]

So stunning, so brave. I'm. Well. I'm just gushing all over the place.

[@nataliebierman3067]

@@Ofelas1 and was the first to learn the Egyptian language!!

[@user_mll374]

This is the world's best comment!!! 😂🤣😂🤣

[@MihaelaFrangopol]

B.S. !

[@alexfriedman918]

Wow - sexually manipulating men? What an empowering feminist message! And so new and fresh! Truly stunning and brave!

[@prestigemultimediagroup6436]

In fairness she did a fuckload more then just fuck 2 roman guys ffs

[@ramonserna8089]

A black woman sexually manipulating a beloved charismatic man and bringing his downfall. I wonder why Jada felt connected to her story.

[@Bren.Thegreat]

Her powers of seduction are impressive. It is worth noting and highlighting considering she may have not been as beautiful as the media made her to be.

[@serbanalexandriuc6170]

However, Cleopatra did sexually manipulate the two most powerful men on Earth at that time: Julius Caesar and Marcus Antonius. This is not disputed. If you want a modern day parallel - Cleopatra was like Marilyn Monroe, who bedded both John and Robert Kennedy. And in the end committed suicide.

[@Lonovavir]

Even then Cleopatra still lost.

[@Hiraghm]

Complaining about the Greek role in Egyptian history would be like an American complaining about the British role in American history. Or, a Brit complaining about the Roman role in British history... As an American who does know a little bit of history, I'm _grateful_ , not resentful, of Rome's role in British history. That Constitution we Americans are always going-on about wouldn't exist if the Romans and minded their own lands and not gone invading the British Isles. It wouldn't have been possible.

[@Plan73]

This is how history works, one year you are the invader and a century later you are invaded. Nobody takes offense and we move on.

[@LawlTwins]

Well said. People can say what they want about Rome but they spread civilization to us barbarians haha.

[@manmaje3596]

Well Britain founded America not Rome. 2000 years after they left our shores. That was a British achievement.

[@lubossoltes321]

What about the French ? Everybody ignores the French ...

[@proto-geek248]

Ty Rome.

[@ahleenah]

fun fact: brits are technically genetically closer related to Egyptians than the rest of Africa. If African Americans do have Egyptian ancestry, it is from their "white" ancestors, not their black ones.

[@karenhall4645]

Its amazing that that woman's grandmother actually knew Cleopatra! How else could she be so sure the schools were wrong about a person who lived thousands of years ago!

[@TheFiddle101]

Maybe her granny meant Cleopatra Jones 😄

[@olympiahendrix4392]

I wondered about that too.....🤣🤣🤣but then again....maybe it got lost in the amazing amount of insanity. One more thing does not seem to make much difference. Did she include the kitchen sink anywhere? What floors me is the amount of hatred for all colors. The total lack of empathy towards people of other colors' pain! It is a very immature, destructive tantrum that makes me appreciate even more my excellent Black friends. This attitude of Jada Pinkett Smith does not represent at all the majority of Black people, in my personal experience.

[@dancam9110]

I don't care what they told you, MLK was White.

[@PivdennaChaika]

😂😂😂 real black granny 😂 you don't know them - they were capable of living 1000 years and more 😂

[@olympiahendrix4392]

@@PivdennaChaika better than a babushka in the street begging for money. They take everything black, white, yellow. 🤑You haven't paid back enough to laugh at anyone!

[@AliceBowie]

I think they were more afraid of the backlash if they made something historically accurate, than they were about the backlash for falsifying everything.

[@noirhelios]

Which is ironic considering the backlash of falsification is resulting in a lawsuit, whereas the former would have maybe just gotten Twitter morons mad

[@farhanatashiga3721]

How moronic

[@absynthminded]

If there had been any intention to be accurate they wouldn't have made it at all.

[@Stealth86651]

@@noirhelios Sometimes people forget Twitter really doesn't matter much outside of twitter.

[@whitemagus2000]

They should do a Prince of Egypt remake where the Jewish slaves have to escape their black overlords.😂

[@drizer4real]

For me personally the biggest nono is not that she is portrayed as black, but that shot where she is wielding a sword. Kind of proof that Miss Entanglement doesn't get Cleopatra , because Cleopatra ruled by her brain, cunning and ruthlessness, not by being a warrior and leading soldiers into battle.

[@helentonkin3348]

😂 Unfortunately things caught up with her.

[@_fze.]

Tell me about it🤦, if she wanted to portray a strong African queen with a sword all she would have needed to do was look literally ONE country southwards and find Kandake Amanirenas of Kush (modern day Sudan), who not only existed around the same era as the Roman invasion of Africa but also personally drove them out of her country by riding an elephant into battle with her army. But expecting Ms. Table Talk to do the smart thing by doing actual research is too much ig And the kicker? All the actress in the netflix version would have needed to do to act as the Kandake is put on a friggin eye patch and she'd be ready to go.