Cleopatra BOMBS Actress ATTACKS Fans & Gaslights Everyone!

[@disparutoo]

Netflix's Queen Cleopatra has reviews lower than I even thought possible. With a 1% on rotten tomatoes and only 1 single positive troll review on metacritic, the backlash for Queen Cleopatra is another level. The critics reviews themselves seem to be running scared with only 9 even daring to leave one for the show. It's difficult because they are supposed to be supporting both sides here, but clearly that cannot be the case. Instead of facing this contradiction, they hide and pretend the show doesn't exist. Now previously we heard the director talk, but now even the main actress is coming out, although sounds suspiciously similar to the director. Which is weird when she is British. But as this does show that people see through Netflix's tactics, and the Egyptian Lawsuit against Netflix for Queen Cleopatra that people are standing up for themselves. You have to ask how long can Netflix keep this up, how long can they keep losing the money on these shows? Do you think we are approaching a turning point? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)

[@Proletariat12]

The reviews are so low, it's silly to claim this is the "American perspective". Blame Hollywood if you want, blame Will Smith for being a cuck. Americans obviously didn't like it and agree with you.

[@M-S_4321]

Netflix supports blackwashgaslight. The only light that supports washworks.

[@Ashkihyena]

As I said, Leftism isn’t just an American thing as the head actress shows. London is full of this shit as Sadiq Khan proves.

[@NormanReaddis]

Fighting "colonialism" by being colonizers themselves. I see the irony here. They're having a "documentary about "everything's gonna be all white" but they're forgetting to look in the mirror. They're taking the YT video "if hip-hop exist in 1700" very seriously or that's just how they do stuff. Even the comments agree to it. They. Do find legitimacy in non African lore. Update: Wait... did you just wear a "she hulk" merch? Why? Lmao

[@lordomacron3719]

I think the reason there was not an audience rating on rotten tomatoes for awhile is it was not programmed to display a 0% it had to wait until the average reached 1% before it was able to display something. It is a thought I found amusing if true. That they never expected anything to ever get a 0% that they never programmed it in.

[@Nanees]

Imagine being an Egyptian, just minding your own business, worrying about the economy, then suddenly you find some rich entitled Americans claiming you're an invader in your own country and that they're the righteous owners of your culture! Beyond insulting is what it is, I have never been so angry in my life!

[@rosejames5172]

You are a descendant if an immigrant. Learn your european and arab history of migration and stop trying to white wash black history.

[@thehind8861]

@ahmedsejini2401 Some afroc*_entrist climbed over our artifecates and claimed he is a true Egyptian and ended up being escorted out. He shouldve been in jail for climbing over the walls of a temple

[@toddbrown7142]

Amen to that. White liberal progressive women wouldn't survive 2 minutes in Egypt. I detest them. And I'm white.

[@Ooomnia]

@Ahmed Sejini no actually they did come to Egypt and tried to harass Egyptians and other white tourists. The outrage coming from us was expected after all things that have been going on in the last few years those people (Afrocentrists) are really mad and racist…

[@happychappy492]

I don't blame you they are beyond stupid and crazy at this point , they are abusers

[@UnderTheTableGremlin]

She literally wasn’t even a black woman, she was Greek. It’s not a “the audience is racist” thing, it’s a “the audience knows more about world history than the cast and crew does” thing.

[@atumka3972]

She was born three hundred years after Alexander invaded Kemet, how could you possibly rule out brown skin. This clown calling her a British actress lol. Using your logic she is African, the location of Egypt 😅

[@lisathomas7252]

Absolutely you need to say adledgely, what you say is only your opinion. Adledgely The skin color of the publisher of this irrational criticism of Cleopatra being dark skinned is white washing history as usual adledgely. You cannot change the color of Adam,Eve,Jesus, & all original Eyptians through a 1950's movie during Jim Crow days allegedly. I am Glad Jada wrote it. Now I can see that America has a problem with Darker 🧬 DNA. Absolutely uncalled for Adledgely. ☮️😀🧬❤️Out.

[@lyravain6304]

Don't you know? Everyone who doesn't agree is istophobic.

[@dmbook]

It's more a "we want to co opt famous things as black instead of telling actual African stories"

[@lisathomas7252]

Adledgely how do you know? Was you actually there? Adledgely no. Cleopatra adledgely was not a Godly virtuous thinking woman, adledgely beautiful and smart 🤓 . Therefore, Greek or something else.........let it go. Adledgely Ethiopians, Hebrews, Black Moore s,etc. .. always go back to darker cultures. Nothing personal just facts. For example:. King Tut, etc .................😀☮️💯😊❤️

[@Agooo13431]

To help you understand why we- Egyptians- are upset, imagine a national geographic documentary that says: "my grandmother used to say: I don't care what they teach you in school, the earth is flat", then attacks geologists and Astronomers when they object.

[@GuapoJhimi]

Very good.

[@lamadrina5384]

And we Greeks will learn that the stories about Cleopatra were just lies. This terrifies me.

[@stephenthomas1492]

Hey we European descendants can completely relate. They've said that the Irish were originally black, too! Not to mention they've said THEY colorized America and we're the one who have 'stolen' their land. Even if it was true, which is most certainly is not, no one _steals_ land. The only right anyone ever has to land is in their ability to defend it. Like every other organism, anywhere and for all time.

[@mirozen_]

Okay, I've gotta say it! BRAVO!!! 👍

[@elaineleonard9526]

The earth is flat…….

[@Irishxlily]

My biggest gripe is it calls itself a documentary, but dramatizes everything, and plays to the creators emotions of how they wanted Cleopatra to be rather than who she actually was as a real person. I heard the word "I feel" or "I believe" way too much from those so called "experts". They really shouldn't have called it a documentary.

[@catspajamboree]

exactly if they wanted to do a history drama based on real people but not really with how things that happened do something like the great instead THIS IS A DOCUMENTARY

[@philippdolschan3300]

Live action remake lmao

[@assassin8636]

So what are you saying here?

[@realdragon]

Asterix and Obelix is more historically accurate than this

[@Jokoko2828]

@@realdragon More fun too.

[@ozunu_1814]

The trailer : "I don't care what you were taught in school, Cleopatra was black !" Later : "It's a reimagined version of Cleopatra" We are reaching levels of hypocrisy that should not be possible.

[@StephenGillie]

A Brave New 1984, where we rewrite history to make (a few of) ourselves happy.

[@rodneymarsden3003]

Reimagined? No longer a documentary? Sorry but too late. They called it a documentary and that is what they will have to live with.

[@christopherjones5827]

Exactly a black African woman and the King was a black African male. These demons twist everything. They know the truth but rather live in a lie.

[@kittybrowneye3163]

Look through history this happens in every authoritarian color revolution because the people just allow it until they're cattle

[@jamesdavis8937]

You're so stupid Christopher Cleopatra was not black.

[@ElderNewt]

She cries about people being racist... While she's being racist herself.

[@squintyspade0025]

We all know black people cant be racist🤪🤪🤪

[@Vandrock]

"can't be racist if your black".......sorry what? I did not catch that my stupid fell out...

[@Shaylok]

And then have the nerve to accuse anyone pointing out the hypocrisy as being racist. When they don't have an argument and the facts fail to support their claim, they resort to dehumanizing pejoratives - they cry "racist."

[@kingpin7610]

shes saying people are racist while they are being racist to Egypt

[@Vandrock]

@@kingpin7610 So humans are racist! I knew it.

[@Zero8880]

What is outrageous is that many in the black community get so angry over "cultural appropriation", and yet have no problems appropriating other cultures to suit their own purpose.

[@Wrangzilla]

Because they know their culture is horrible.

[@ccptube3468]

Lol these creatures are hyp0crit3$.......

[@albundy7623]

I ignore them, it’s really easy

[@velveetaslingshot]

Boom! My white liberal niece dropped the "cultural appropriation" bomb on us last christmas. I kept my mouth shut until I got in her car and she cranked up the hip-hop. I said "thats cultural appropriation. Hip-hop was made as a way for inner city black kids to express their frustration with living in ghettos. It wasnt made for affluent suburban white kids. I mean if you are cool with cultural appropriation keep listening...." She turned it off.

[@cameronfreeman3777]

And they LOVE to culturally appropriate our hair.

[@jmichelle83]

They aren't portraying it as 're-imagining', they are portraying it as true history.

[@taffysaur]

“The professor wrote to me and told me Cleopatra is Greek. Why would that be a good thing for you, professor? You are EGYPTIAN!” Jesus, this statement is SO telling about her motivation in all she does. She can’t imagine someone genuinely wanting to follow the truth wherever it leads simply for the sake of the principle of honesty, as well as the practical considerations. No, she can ONLY imagine arguing from self-interest, because that is how she operates. The most important consideration isn’t whether something is true, it’s how does it benefit Jada Pinkett-Smith.

[@IntroducingMrLucci]

Someday westerners will realize this all stems from a demographic with much higher rates of Sociopathy. Among many other things this demographic commits and behaviors.

[@Agooo13431]

Exactly 💯

[@ctruth6185]

I don't care how upset thieves & usurpers become. You have stolen black African heritage. GOD knows the truth and all of you are liars. The original Israelites were Black African, the Ancient Egyptians/Kemet were Black African! The Moors of Northern Africa were Black African and they invaded Spain, Greece, Italy and much of Europe. The Phoenicians, Thebans, Numidians & the Carthagenians were Black African too. Jesus Christ, Moses, Enoch, the Hebrews, the Queen of Sheba, Queen Candace and many others from the Bible were Black African! Yep, Afrocentrism's truth will never be erased from the planet. GOD will not allow the TRUTH to die! The TRUTH will never bend over and bow to a lie.

[@ViaConDias]

@@IntroducingMrLucci Sociopathy (ASPD - secondary psychopathy) might be a little extreme but Cluster B personality disorders seem to be becoming the norm in the younger population of the West and that is more scary than most people can even imagine.

[@curiaregis9479]

The tribalism of African Americans is rancid and ubiquitous. They think if ridiculous, black-aggrandizing and white-vilifying historical revisionism worked so well on the American Anglo, why not everyone else?

[@maikamal7024]

As an Egyptian, I agree with every single word you said. What's really irritating that they have the audacity to call this show a "documentary " and then the nerve to call us "racists" because we refuse to accept this cultural appropriation. What's more frustrating , that Jada Smith had the actual opportunity to make a real documentary on African black queens if she'd just invested more in research. She simply took the easy way out.

[@hoangvuminh6436]

Elizabeth II might be next, i wonder if they dare insult her majesty

[@DavidSmith-mt7tb]

Hate to say it, but welcome to the club. These people have been appropriating "white" culture (really a bunch of different European cultures) for a while now. They have this weird double standard where they want their own culture segregated to where only they can use it, be inspired by it, etc. but think that everyone else's culture should be open to them to claim as their own. Props to the Egyptians for taking a stand against it. The "western" nations are too PC to take a stand for our history like that.

[@sikderqais6151]

Jada's next project replacing the Queen from the Crown with herself as a reimagining.

[@el_killorcure]

Maybe the Iranian director would like to see a documentary about Cyrus the Great casting a bleached blond slav and calling that fact?

[@shaunsteele6926]

now you're seeing what we have to deal with in America. These people are insufferable.

[@batmanforpresident9655]

Saying Cleopatra was a black woman is like calling Jada Pinkett Smith a loving wife.

[@tweedeldee8122]

Or a decent person

[@moondawwg]

Or saying she has hair.

[@Astrogator1]

@@moondawwg that’s mean… but really funny (Appears I need to explain that I agreed with what was said, there are many things that can be said about her, mostly true but all very funny. My comment was meant in sense f humor or 😂😂😂😂🙄😂🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😂😂😂😂😂😂🙄😊😊😊😊🙄🙄🙄😂😂😂😂🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dragonsman4733]

​@@moondawwg based

[@tarektechmarine8209]

@@Astrogator1 she deserves whatever she gets.

[@seansprigle]

Thank you for speaking the truth! I’m American and im so happy to hear someone speaking the truth about the utter backwards insanity that has been going on in my country. I feel like the world has been turned inside out and warped to a bizarre dimension where nothing makes sense anymore

[@Juanito231991]

I remember my grandma telling me “I don’t care what they tell you in school, cleopatra was Mexican” and that’s all the proof I need ☺️

[@andreshernandez1180]

She united the people by opening a Jill’s Breakfast Tacos franchise in Cairo.

[@Juanito231991]

@@andreshernandez1180 I heard she invented Pozole and Menudo, and also harvested the first avocados 🥑

[@kxkxkxkx]

Albert Einstein was black African from Rhodesia 🌚 but they don't teach that in government schools

[@KaguroDraven]

Mexican? MEXICAN!? SHE WAS PUERTO RICAN YOU ******************! I'm kidding, obviously.

[@Juanito231991]

@@KaguroDraven lmao. You don’t have you say you’re kidding btw! I understand it’s a joke

[@MrFerparedes]

I can't stop being amazed at the arrogance of thinking they can "re-imagine" what is a real historic figure. I mean, Cleopatra isn't the Little Mermaid. She actually *existed!* You don't get to "re-imagine" her, she was what she was, whether they like it or not.

[@MadManUSMC]

Sure they can. They reversed "Woman King" to make a black tribe of slavers and butchers the good guy and the British that stopped slavery in central Africa the bad guys. As soon as they left the blacks brought it back, but it is what it is.

[@rklewis2]

This is seriously all that needs to be said. Yeah, you can reimagine fictional characters any way you like, because they were never real to begin with. There are infinite possibilities. You're NOT allowed that luxury with people that really existed. It's offensive. To everyone. It offends the peoples you're changing. It affects the intellect of everyone else. Thus, the "documentary" richly deserves to be tossed into a raging dumpster fire. Has nothing to do with racism on the audience part. Nothing at all.

[@artloz6345]

You are correct. But little mermaid does come from Scandinavian lore.

[@MrFerparedes]

@@gutless1108 or even better. "I don't care what they tell you at school. Cleopatra was a trans woman!"

[@MrFerparedes]

@@artloz6345 yes, you are right. Hard to justify race swapping. Ffs , I bet there are a gazillion interesting folk tales from any African, South American, Asian or anything non-white from where to tell an interesting story. But noo, creatively bankrupt Hollywood can only think of adapting old stuff "to a modern audience". Garbage.

[@TimothyZhou0]

1% audience rating is truly impressive. I'm astounded by the amount of talent it took to become so universally hated lmao

[@aahzmandiaz2767]

You mean utter lack of sanity and talent.

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

Not even master of disguise is that low. Turtle 🐢

[@scottylabeam8765]

The audience represents all the people that vote Deception-crat

[@grumajorocelot]

I'm so proud of this community

[@Sneedmeister]

People are SICK of black supremacists rewriting entire to include themselves. Black people are unhappy with their history compared to everyone elses and so they want burn history to the ground. Egypt wasn't Black, Carthage wasn't Black, none of the Romans or Greeks were black, Celts nor Germanics were black, European Knights weren't black *except that one guy maybe*, Samurais were not black, Ninjas were not black. Like it sucks that African tribes never recorded their history or stories for the most part, but don't take your anger out on us.

[@Millersmedias]

What’s even worse is the US is becoming engrossed with people like this and even my coworker who just watches tik tok all day comes up to me and goes “did you know that THIS is what REALLY happened!?”

[@nitomosquito3164]

A sad reality we live in

[@TwoBassed]

Yes, it MUST be true because it was shown on TikTok! 🙄

[@assassin8636]

​@nitomosquito3164 what's your point here

[@assassin8636]

​@@TwoBassedenough with people talking crap about Tiktok

[@assassin8636]

​@@nitomosquito3164you are just saying that cause you like complaining

[@MsJuliadanny]

The arrogance of those who never apologise is disgusting

[@pax3974]

They know they're a burden to the rest of the world, we should've been more ambitious than to babysit the weakest link

[@cosmoray9750]

Nothing new. " Mary Kom is a 2014 Indian Hindi-language biographical sports film based on the life of the eponymous boxer Mary Kom, " Look up who Mary Kom is and look up who played Mary Kom. Also look up " Most Racist Countries in the World "

[@EyeSeeThruYou]

@Cosmo Ray thank you for mentioning this athlete, Mangte Chungneijang/Mary Kom as she has gotten almost no real press, outside India, that I could see (went and read about her after reading your post). Amazing dedication and talent to have been victorious so decisively in as many events as she has! And yet...as you point out...the selected actress to portray Kom in a production has overtones of ethnic "re-imaging" as well. Are Indians paying attention to what the movie production did regarding casting? Where does this end??

[@gracegrace3205]

@@pax3974 Ahhh I'm sure you'll GASLIGHT us and pretend you're not talking about black people Your dog whistling is old. It's your simple, in every meaning of the word, attempt to mask your deeply rooted hate and disdain for blacks. Feigning innocence, cries of racism toward black people being dead, reverse racism, railing about blacks not letting the past go, same rhetorical bs over and over and over and over. .Some of you people are the embodiment of the triad of darkness.Ugh

[@gracegrace3205]

@@cosmoray9750 Exactly, Mary Kom, THAT doesn't enrage or even interest them because it doesn't promote their reverse racism agenda. YES America naturally made the top 10 of most racist.Some of them are so ensconced in their own inherent hate they think it's normal.I like when they spew their vitriol, it proves the rhetoric they regurgitate about reverse racism and racism toward blacks or other POC being in the past, is nothing more than narcissistic GASLIGHTING.

[@JessieHTX]

I'm not surprised Netflix hasn't apologized, and I don't believe they will. Just last year, they essentially ignored the complaints from the families of Dahmer's victims.

[@jacquelineking5783]

Let's not forget Cuties. Which at best can be described as a poor attempt at what the movie claimed it was trying to do.

[@josephdahl4960]

And before that they made soft core cp

[@davidmarrero9608]

Big difference is the Dahmer on was an actual Documentary series with actual facts while this was a shitty fanfic mockumentary trying to play it off as being fact. That's the difference but yes, they did go extreme on some stuff that the family members didn't want to be shown or told with the Dahmer series.

[@sorantohell5096]

Dahmer was a completely different situation. They painted him as he was, yet the family didn't like that he got any form of media. This is just plain misinformation and insanity.

[@Flutter_Aeina]

@@davidmarrero9608 except the families of the victims protested the inaccurate portrayals of their dead family members. They tried to make dahmer sympathetic ffs

[@ahmadtalaat2426]

As an Egyptian i can't be more thankful to you for expressing all that's on our minds since this offensive comical series was launched by Netflix. There's a barrier in between my language and yours that doesn't allow me to express the mount of indignation & discontent that we have been going through as a nation watching our history getting robbed by a group of miserable wannabes who have nothing in relation to us whatsoever. So thank you again 🙏

[@BroncoSauer]

They try to re-write the history of the whole Mediterranean area. Egyptians, Greeks and Romans were racists and stole the history of the black Africans, this is what they claim...It cannot be more ridiculous than it is already... 400 million people against a small group of lunatics...

[@jeanhorn8891]

Yes I'm fed up with woke ,✓✓✓ They are the first to complain,why couldn't they get an Egyptian artist,love Egypt ,must be talented Egyptian young up coming actresses. Portrait this properly not made up.🤕👍

[@Nautilus1972]

The way you tried to rob the history of the people wo built the pyramids? Cos it wasn't you ....

[@Sema-Tawy]

@@Nautilus1972 desperate pathetic wannabe detected 😂

[@ahmadtalaat2426]

@@Nautilus1972 thought my roof was punctured till i realized those were your tears :)

[@casualgamers9217]

As an American I am ashamed that this is an accurate description of our ideology. I want everyone to know we don’t all share these views lol 😂

[@altalia07]

Like 0.2% of the country believe those types of views 😢😢

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

Indeed, the silent majority of us do not

[@sandrapotter6897]

She thinks just because she can bully Will that she can do the same to the rest of us.

[@shxnx3646]

classic!!! hahahah

[@dudepool7530]

Remember when Will Smith had street cred? Me neither 😂

[@sarasunshinemt4444]

She has so twisted reality to suit and excuse her behavior that she thinks she can gaslight the rest of the world into believing her delusions. Sorry baldy; that's a VERY hard pass!

[@radwaahmed8954]

Hahahaha 😂😂

[@sir2657]

​@@sarasunshinemt4444 (baldy) ahhahqhahahah

[@Bakeroo]

As a Greek person I feel they have offended Egyptian and Greek history at the same time. I fear we are losing touch with reality and rewriting history (and in other cases biology) with the words ‘this is my truth’. If we challenge the narrative there are nasty accusations, when really we are just standing up for facts and science. How about we just stick to 'the truth'.

[@zuri6744]

Florida is already doing this 🤮

[@torikazuki8701]

Because for nearly 100 years, American Academia (Inspired by the German Frankfurt School of the 1920's) has been slowly pushing the idea that 'Objective Truth does not exist' into the culture. Of course... the one problem with that statement is that if Objective Truth does not exist... then how can it be Objectively True that Objective Truth doesn't exist? ^_^ Ultimately it's postmodernism/relativism which is an anti-fact, anti-evidence, anti-RATIONAL Ideology, created solely for the purpose of burning The West into the ground.

[@DirtyTurtle67]

@@cdnron75 Florida is a joke, facts and science have no place in Floriduh.

[@ElectricalExistence]

rewriting our history is the least of our problems. they are rewriting our dna, with foreigners who our kids are encouraged to breed with.

[@ElectricalExistence]

@@cdnron75 theyre just low iq, cant be helped.

[@PhreakPhantom]

Blackwashing IS a thing. It's so much a "thing" it became a meme regarding Netflix adaptations.

[@Quandry1]

it just can't be a thing. Because that would be racist and they just have no ability to be racist don't you know. only have others be racist to them. (please take note of the nearly lethal levels of sarcasm in this statement that to many not only believe but will actually tell you a serious version of.)

[@O1OO1O1]

They made a documentary about it called The Thing

[@ctruth6185]

Black African people reclaiming the truth of their identity, heritage & history. Its GOD ordained!

[@O1OO1O1]

@@ctruth6185 my god told me it's not. Do you have a receipt?

[@Sheoloch]

​@@ctruth6185 Lying, thieving propagandists. Eat shit, the lot of you. Keep lying and trying to appropriate what's not yours and you might just end up crushed under a very big boot.🤡🖕

[@TheZamaron]

I love how she calls this a documentary (which is supposed to be as close to historical fact as possible) and yet she’s so wrong because this is actually fiction, that she’s pissed off Egypt it’s self to the point that they want to sue her over her lies. And she attacks them too calling it “self loathing”. The ego and narcissism on display by her is hilarious. She’s digging her own grave every time she talks.😂😂😂

[@jagmo]

"When does ignorance turn into malevolence?" Excellent point.

[@Kombo-Chapfika]

When it gets funding and becomes aggressive.

[@imsoreetodddid9007]

When it becomes WILFUL ignorance.

[@aethertoast4320]

There is no ignorance in this situation. It is pure malevolence.

[@Egysp00fs]

as an Egyptian, thanks for pointing out the frustration we're going through. to us it definitely isn't a matter of skin color, Egypt has a diverse skin tone, from white to black, with a majority of somewhere in the middle, as we have more middle eastern features. not because of the Islamic expansions, because you'll find pure Coptic, who marry amongst themselves to this day, with a variety of skin tones too. The problem is, they assume Africa is a country, and everyone there looks the same. and that is racist, and I don't know why Netflix is allowing that. The entire cast doesn't look from Egypt one bit, and Cleopatra, the Queen, isn't even Egyptian. a lot of people seem to mix entertainment with documentaries, thinking both are one and the same since it's on Netflix.

[@Lorre982]

Listen, i m italian, i took a Holiday in Egypt years ago, i m have the classico darker mediterranean skin color even if i m from the north of Italy, when i take sunbath i become so dark that egyptian start to talk to me in marsy

[@thesultanofveracity9943]

The idiocy of someone claiming that simply being a continent, by default, makes you have one phenotype is beyond words. The equivalent would be someone Chinese demanding historical Indian emperors be made Chinese in movies because India is on the same continent, so everyone there must look Chinese. Or visa versa.

[@WisamSafi1978]

Not mention they hired an Iranian American director who apparently has an agenda to undermine Egyption history and bastardize it.

[@mrsnezbit2219]

​@@Lorre982 My gampa too was super black! And we are from Emilia, I'm white as a bed sheet.. In the mediterranean area we are so mixed up since forever

[@khalilrezgani3881]

I know the feeling my friend, I am Tunisian, and to see this kind of disrespect and disregard to the diversity of African cultures is horrifying.

[@aledwilliams1366]

"Blackwashing isn't a thing" - Netflix Anne Boleyn enters the chat.

[@Anthony-ot8vl]

It's DEFINITELY a thing.

[@winstonsyme5899]

It seems that the BBC is the worst offender of colorizing history. Yet this English guy forgot that. He can criticize the US all he wants, but at least we go to the dentist. Also how is London doing with all those black and brown people? Violent crime, sex trafficking etc.

[@agiksf.8998]

​@@winstonsyme5899I'm quite sure he is aware.

[@plspriska]

Ariel, queen charlotte, tinkerbell…. Enter the chat

[@rouninpanda6318]

@@plspriska Still waiting on the black live action film of Gepetto and Pinocchio.

[@TexasEskimo]

I spent a year in Cairo. The Egyptians were very defensive about being called African. It's not always about geography. It's about culture. Netflix needs to change this from a "Documentary" to a "Fiction".

[@peterxyh1]

How about a black Hannibal Barca?

[@citizen-7xl5]

The fact that Jada can’t differentiate a continent from a country makes complete sense considering she can’t differentiate her husband and her boyfriend.

[@klassytv8151]

Lol

[@BookSquirrelUK]

🤣🤣🤣👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@sweethistortea]

I mentioned this on a Hero Hei video, but I'll say it again here: I have been studying history all my life, and I am sick of companies trying to change history to fit their own personal bias. A movie like Anastasia or Pocahontas never claimed to be accurate, they are "what if" stories. Nowadays, these companies try to claim every "historical" show they make is accurate.

[@etruscancivilization]

Very educational rewarding documentary about about ancient Black Egyptian culture..

[@LYNX2418]

​@@etruscancivilizationyou are jesting, right?

[@ルユク-h3h]

If they ever make Mulan Black I will Lose it

[@demothiguillermo2059]

​@@LYNX2418 I think they're being sarcastic

[@cudackedees3327]

@@ルユク-h3h honestly making Mulan black and in a setting of a black African ancient kingdom war would be more appropriate than this since mulan is actually a fictional character like caption america.

[@beowulfsrevenge4369]

"Black washing isn't a thing."?? Have they seen the casting of movies and shows lately?

[@zayd4078]

Pretty much the point of 0:49, am I right ? 🤣

[@JonasGrumby-OO]

Anne Boleyn would like a word

[@thatHARVguy]

@@c.krueger9530: "Where are the African stories, legends, fairy tales... ?" Woke SJWeirdos: "That's cultural appropriation! REEE!!!"

[@bjorn301]

Gingers anyone?

[@troyhageman3173]

Well, since all that is required is someone to say it... Whitewashing is not a thing

[@DrAnonymous23]

Saying Cleopatra is black is like saying Jada Pinkett Smith isn’t bald.

[@khfan4life365]

Jada’s definition of history is up there with her definition of marriage.

[@toolegittoquit_001]

Open and subject to change

[@sianais]

​@@toolegittoquit_001 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@stacyscott4621]

one of the best comments I’ve ever read!

[@grizzlyblackpowder1960]

@@WilliamTyndale007 shit, she has difficulty saying who her husband is.

[@dianaengland1907]

😏

[@Klee99zeno]

If you "reimagine" history then its not history.

[@G36645]

Not unless you’re in the USA and the people your race swapping are originally white

[@TheOddybody]

It literally falls under fiction at that point. No ide why they pushing this as history at all. It's just like star wars, pure fiction.

[@younger544]

I'm still laughing over the fact they thought the public was so far gone that this would be applauded. That grandma comment was just said with such pride, you could tell they were totally thinking that would get like a standing ovation or something. Like it was a MLK speech ender.

[@WSKTV6]

They live in delusion, Hollywood doesn't know their paying audience. Apparently because I'm black i'm supposed to love this, but as a student of history? I'm repulsed by the disregard & hijacking of an entire cultures history to tell a ego fueled fan faction. Enough identity politics in entertainment!

[@cejka30]

I stopped watching after that comment.

[@Agooo13431]

Imagine a national geographic documentary that says: "my grandmother used to say: I don't care what they teach you in school, the earth is flat", then attacks geologists and Astronomers when they object.

[@CoryTheRaven]

@@Agooo13431 "My grandmother used to say: I don't care what they teach you in school, Adam and Eve were the first humans." - Netflix's stunning and brave documentary on how evolution is false.

[@ericfrancisco6615]

It makes me cringe that woman is a teacher. But I looked at her profile and says she's a black feminist and hard-core Afrocentrist. I feel sorry for the young folks who she successfully brainwashed with her drivel.

[@dawnc1419]

"why cant i just attack you and you just shut up"... What an accurate account of the days we're living!!!

[@assassin8636]

Uh what are you saying here?

[@primal1233]

This show deserves all of the criticism it's getting

[@etruscancivilization]

This show deserves all the PRAISE it is getting from the scholarly people..

[@Muckylittleme]

What is odd about the denial of "blackwashing" being a thing is that this is happening to European cultures yet it is celebrated within those cultures by the media and governments that are supposed to represent them. Did I say "odd"? Sorry, I meant gen-oh-sydal and evil.

[@pumpkinpatch5]

@@etruscancivilization pseudo-scholars not worth their salt.

[@woebringer7884]

@@etruscancivilization Looking at all your other comments…wonder when you’ll finally realize there’s only one “racist” you should be concerned with. YOURSELF

[@stephenthomas1492]

If it was a show, I can ALMOST understand. But they've presented this farce like it's a documentary.

[@David_the_Psalmist]

"Blackwashing isn't a thing." As a wise leader of the Decepticons once said, "You're either lying or you're stupid!"

[@Sound557]

“I’m stupid, I’m stupid!!”

[@Khashmonet]

Could be both.

[@Soupy_loopy]

As if she has never used the term, "white-washing" when it comes to casting actors. Here in America racism only goes one way, and certain people are never called racist no matter what crazy things they say.

[@G36645]

The answer it’s both

[@coconutcore]

Or she’s lying because she’s stupid.

[@minasamir3432]

🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬Hi i am Coptic Egyptian, one of the oldest races of Egypt and for along while now i flet like my people are bring removed from our history, but after this documentary came out and saw how peoole are defending us and standing with the truth, it makes me feel like i can finally breath, but out of all the amazing people who stood up with us, this amazing KZbinr is the closest to my heart ❤❤❤❤ god bless you, you said what i wanted to say for along time and from what i am seeing you made a difference and helped preserving my people identity and for that i am for ever greatful to you ❤❤❤❤

[@Desmo25]

I can’t even tell you how many times I’ve been called a racist and ignorant on multiple social media platforms, when my father was an Egyptologist and I studied world history extensively in college. You genuinely cannot correct any of these woke nazis. In 2023 America you would get cancelled as long as you don’t support woke/cancel culture.

[@ssv7195]

They are not defending the Egyptians, they are protesting that blacks are doing appropriation... Because they are doing that with every culture

[@ricardodelano2205]

been coptis you are really descended from others than the original black african of kemet , the ANCIENT tamerian were the original people of " egypt" so you are not the the builders of tameri .

[@minasamir3432]

@@ricardodelano2205 you live in a fantasy world,I am sure you were told this by your grandmother too

[@sober1522]

​​@@minasamir3432 as a half EGYPTIAN ppl like them just disgus me

[@Fantasyish]

It’s amazing how selective they are about how they feel about misinformation.

[@RaspK]

The irony of insisting that the reaction is about skin tone, rather than ethnicity, whereas they specifically decided that Cleopatra should be black to... you guessed it, represent people with a dark skin tone. They co-opt other people's history, themselves focusing on skin tone (see e.g. "Why shouldn't Cleopatra be a melanated sister?"), and then accuse others of doing just that in reverse.

[@leniprof]

So "Why not imagine white is black"... ‘War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength’ - George Orwell "1984"

[@boobah5643]

Disparu mentioned this in one of his earlier videos on the subject. Their line was "Why does it matter so much to you (the folks angry about the blackwashing) that we're depicting Cleopatra with sub-Saharan features?" Disaparu's response was, effectively, that that was more than a little hypocritical since it was obvious that the race-edit was incredibly important to the people making the show.

[@swokatsamsiyu3590]

@@boobah5643 If the reverse would happen with the lead role played by a white actor in, say a biography about M.L.K., not only would it not be accepted (and rightfully so because of obvious falsification of historical facts), but entire cities would burn the same day. They have been used to white people cowering in fear for being called an "-istahpobe" when speaking up about the falsification and mocking of their history for so long, that they thought they could do the same without impunity to any other history. However, the rest of the world does not kowtow like we do in the West. They're currently finding that out the hard way.

[@ReinMixTape]

I don't like the one-way co-opting they're doing. Co-opting sucks anyway. Make your own stories and own fictional historical figures.

[@kwc1138]

Netflix are ultimately stating that there is nothing, or no one, notable enough to be worth making a documentary about in sub Saharan Africa history.

[@lbozo5805]

The amount of delusion, entitlement, victimhood, and ignorance is truly mind blowing

[@CrystalWings12]

Sadly we're now living in a world with that kind of attitudes. The way they said it makes them look like the average Twitter users.

[@Sema-Tawy]

Exactly

[@StephenGillie]

There shall come a reckoning.

[@joeyboedeker2047]

Willfully ignorant

[@xxcelr8rs]

Every thing on NPR. They want it both ways. Racism. Color blind. So tired of race hustlers.

[@Omar-kk5jp]

As an Egyptian I want to thank everyone who is supporting us againest Afrocentric movement, we are not going to forget your support guys ❤❤

[@tymanung6382]

Seems likeAfrocentrism.vs. Pan Africanism!!!

[@etruscancivilization]

As a Black American, I want to thank all of the Black scholars who contributed to the brilliant documentary about Black Cleopatra VII and her life's journey..

[@albundy7623]

Scholars lol

[@ルユク-h3h]

🎉 will always Support you

[@ルユク-h3h]

​@@etruscancivilizationracist

[@iggy9790]

As a script writer it makes me laugh most that they're trying to say "we don't need to be 100% truthful in a documentary" like it's a new concept. There's names for those genres. Historical Fiction Or Mockumentary

[@hughle9617]

I remember that very day my grandfather sat me down and told me the truth about ancestry. He said “don’t ever let schools and the western world lie to you, Shaka Zulu was an Asian king”. That’s when I know we was king

[@bigjoe1103]

My grandma told me not to believe what schools tell me Malcolm X was a white Christian

[@squirrel4788]

Lmao!

[@Matthewt756]

@Doctor Wario Never forget when the Korean named Rosa Parks didn't give up her seat.

[@ar.k2382]

My Grandpa told me Stevie Wonder is actually a Thai ladyboy.

[@aethertoast4320]

This doesn't count as ignorance. They know perfectly that they are wrong, this is pure maliciousness. Plus, it is really funny how these types of people kept going out trying to force "historical accuracy" on everyone, but then they pull this.

[@JOHN----DOE]

Can you imagine a better way to say, "I have no meaningful history myself," than to steal other peoples'?

[@MorfsPrower]

I feel as though all history is significant, even the smallest and more shameful bits. The problem I feel is that people like this perceive their own history as not significant or important enough, and try to imprint themselves harder and harder on others' histories. In the end they end up historically, empirically, publically, socially, and entirely wrong. People won't protect that malicious mindset forever.

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

​@@MorfsPrower I remember a few years ago when the rumors were circulating about a black Little Mermaid there were people debating on whether this was bad or good. Aba & Preach made a video saying why it was nothing more than sloppy seconds. Those who were defending this were saying that "Well Our Stories Are Not As Famous As The White Stories." Like you said above, they feel as if the only way to be important is to rewrite history so they can pretend to be something they are not.

[@reggieburkes4471]

Yep said she did it for political reasons.

[@DragonGoddess18]

I would say it's "Weaponized incompetence" but yes

[@aclevername7613]

The reimagining excuse does not hold up once you label yourself a documentary. A documentary is supposed to be based on facts and history leaving little to no room for any sort of reimagining.

[@JOHN----DOE]

You've heard of alternate facts? This is alternate language. "Documentary" means whatever I want it to mean that enhances my ethnicity.

[@VenathTehN3RD]

@@JOHN----DOE Ah, the old Amber Heard strategy of "I use those terms interchangeably, so it's not really lying when I use the one that definitely doesn't describe what I actually did."

[@aclevername7613]

@@JOHN----DOE There is no such thing as alternate facts. That term is as dumb as the term good or true facts. Facts are facts anything else are lies and fiction and should not be treated as if on equal footing.

[@NephilimGodMusic]

I don't care what historical Evidence or sculptures/ Paintings say my grandma says Martin Luther King was Japanese. :DDD

[@giffysstiffy8874giffytuck]

The truth is that alot of blacks WANT to use the race card...it's acweapon for them🤮🤡

[@Tototheleprechaun]

I grew up in America and from every black person I ever heard when you ever say Cleopatra they always say oh. She was a black woman and honestly I've never asked and even when they were told in school and was showing proof. Heck even if you probably make a exact clone of her from her DNA and showed her here in America and she exactly what she looks like. They probably still deny it, even if you probably took him into the past to show that probably still deny it again in our country right now in America or so. Freaking messed up in the head. It's kind of hard to believe anything that comes out any person's mouth in this country.

[@vladtheimpaler9577]

"I can't believe people are defending themselves against my attack. Why can't I just attack you and you shut up?." That's more true than it sounds as Jada responded to an egyptian critic by saying "Why do you care if Cleopatra is greek, you're egyptian."

[@natew.3731]

Cleopatra was not of Greek ancestry. She was Macedonian. Macedonia was the territory north of Greece. Alexander the Great came from Macedonia and conquered Egypt around 332 BC. When he died, one of his generals, Ptolemy, took control of Egypt and became the first Ptolemic Pharoah. Cleopatra was a Ptolemic queen who was married to two of her brothers (they married inside the family) to protect their ancestry and progeny.

[@vladtheimpaler9577]

@@natew.3731 I'm quoting what the egyptian said. The point is Jada acts confused on why the egyptian cares about Celopatra being another race then his own.

[@animejanai4657]

Jada's attitude of "you shut up" is typical of American blacks. They are used to shutting up contrary viewpoints in America.

[@stan5074]

@@natew.3731 the country of Greece like we know it did not exist at the time. We call all the cultures from that area, including Macedonia, ‘Greek’. Saying Cleopatra wasn’t Greek but Macedonian, is like saying Napoleon wasn’t French because he was from Corsica.

[@Fray2221]

Jada has a point though. Cleopatra wasn't any more Egyptian than she was African. If you tell an Egyptian that Cleopatra wasn't really Egyptian you'll hear the same type of butthurt, accusations of racism and ahistorical nonsense that you'll get from black nationalists.

[@FenyxBlaiseAsche]

It's embarrassing because even though the critics hated it and gave their opinion, they're still too scared to say it's been blackwashed 💀

[@hope-cat4894]

Instead of calling it blackwashing, call it afro-centrism. It's centering everything on being black, even if it disregards history. It also includes mocking features that aren't afro-centric (like calling white people "snow roaches" or "mayo monkeys"). They seem to care more about words than the actions behind those words.

[@frankieseward8667]

Because they'll be blacklisted accused of racism

[@Roman-Citizen]

The show isnt even only falsefied in ethnic areas, but even the person Cleopatra is incredibly distorted as a virtuous woman after western moral principles, when in reality she was a calculating political figure that manipulated and exploited her way to winning the civil war. And that’s not it. They don’t even get the Romans right! An absolute disgrace to history television.

[@crusaderACR]

Cleopatra was a ruthless, cunning woman. Cheated on her brother-husband then killed him after he started some civil war. Yet, contemporary writings speak of her as sensual, captivating, intelligent, and beautiful. People that saw her from afar describe her as average looking, but those that met her fell in love with her. Including two Roman leaders. It's a FASCINATING character. Perhaps not a virtuous woman, but certainly a successful one.

[@RenegadeContext]

@Alonso b When Alan rickman was asked why he always played bad people he said "I don't play bad people I play interesting people" They could have taken that tact here and people may have overlooked the backwashing to a degree. A cunning manipulative fierce woman who would win at any cost is a pretty interesting character. I don't think you avoid teh backlash for blackwashing completely but if they had represented the history correctly that would have been something

[@yukishiro3287]

​@@crusaderACR I would disagree on whether the said two Roman leaders did fall in love with her. Well Marc Antoine did but from what I was taught, Cleopatra is calculative and did sneaked in Caesar's chambers in some... interesting way (apparently rolled herself in carpet that gets delivered to Caesar). I was taught that Caesar found Cleopatra interesting as she was able to keep up with any topic he was talking about. Though from what I make out, it seems they had a some sort of one night stand and Caesar helped Cleopatra in whatever coup d'état it was. It also seemed that Caesar had other plans revolving Cleopatra and most likely used her as some tool in some future. At least that's what I understood

[@crusaderACR]

@@yukishiro3287 Caesar, a married man, not only helped her in war and increased her autonomy from Roman influence and expanded her lands, but brought her home to Rome. It was illegal for a crowned monarch to step into Rome, so he sneaked her in. With sneaked, I mean they went in together with Cleopatra flashing her diadem (a Greek crown) right on her head. Everyone found out and it seems it was obvious they had a relationship. Caesar built her statues around Rome, with she being dressed as Venus or Aphrodite, the goddess of beauty. One of them was built within the Temple of Aphrodite, and was like 10 feet tall He was seen together with Cleopatra and their son, Caesarion, very often. This whole thing did not do any favors for the rumors Caesar wanted to be crowned king. I mean, he already had a Queen and a Prince lmao. For a political and military mastermind, all that was kind of stupid, that just gave fuel to the assassination conspiracy. There must be some relation between doing stupid things and love, don't you think? If that's not infatuation then I don't know what is.

[@yukishiro3287]

@@crusaderACR Ok. I guess I can see the infatuation. But prince...? Sorry I feel like I'm a bit mixed up in some of the history I learned in high school (it's been quite some time since I last looked at my history books)... I remember Cleopatra killing her brother/1st husband. And after that she married her even younger brother to rule. And I guess she killed him too? Idk about when Caesar sneaked her in though. I forgot if Caesarion would even be acknowledged as a prince as he was born out of wedlock and could be considered as "impure" (well... there could be exceptions). I suppose that Caesar would probably have wanted his son become his successor if he was seen so often together with them and if he weren't assassinated? Or nvm because Octavius did come back to claim quite a big part of his heritage from his adoptive father (and maternal grand-uncle). Caesar doesn't seem like he was aware that he would be assassinated. Does that mean that his son isn't so loved since he isn't recognized as his child? Well... Damn that woman... I heard that she tried to hook up with Octavius so that she could spare herself (at least from what I've heard. Octavius didn't give a damn and I probably would've done the same way and tbh, it looks disgusting)

[@SavouryGalette]

There's a difference between Angelina Jolie playing her in a fictionalized version of history, and straight up making Cleopatra black so she fits your worldview in a _documentary series._ That's a difference that Jada Plinkett-Smith conveniently ignores.

[@kateleahmarie]

The problem is when a whole group of people are convinced they're victims anyone that goes against them is seen as an aggressor. Time to bloody grow up!

[@Bartholamew1]

You my friend can suck a dick. Worry about your history of raping and pillaging and rewriting history to hide the facts.

[@joshuadavis9216]

Facts 👌

[@mm-qt6dq]

It's more complicated than that. Two decades ago, an intellectual movement emerged in sub-Saharan Africa against the dominance of French corporations in the region. Its slogan was "Africa belongs to Africans"... This was an opportunity for North African countries like Egypt and Morocco to focus on their relations with their brothers in the south. This was the beginning of African-African cooperation in various fields at the expense of France ... As a result, the French intelligence, under the guise of cultural missions, established a counter-movement whose slogan is "Africa belongs to the blacks" with the aim of creating hatred between the countries of North Africa and the countries of sub-Saharan Africa...and they almost succeeded in that. Once, some sub-Saharan African activists went so far as to accuse us (the indigenous Berbers of North Africa) of being foreign occupiers of our land, just because we are not black! LOL in the end. All these French maneuvers did not find much media resonance in the region. But with the intensification of the French economic crisis year after year, due to its loss of its African markets, the French resorted behind the scenes to spread the ideology of "Africa belongs to blacks" in African-American circles because they are more psychologically prepared to accept these ideas, and because they are more prevalent in the media... and this Cheap artwork is just one such maneuver. so, this whole group of people who are convinced they're victims, they are victims. Because there will always be a cunning person somewhere who knows how to steer them into battles that serve his interests!

[@kateleahmarie]

@@mm-qt6dq That's both sickening and scary!

[@assassin8636]

​@@mm-qt6dqum what are you talking about 🤦‍♂️

[@jefffan1992]

As a american I am very offended ..... That Hollywood keep making us look like egotistical sociopaths. Also I'm still waiting for them to bankrupt for their stupidity.

[@deathclawington2585]

Yeah we need to nuke california

[@BleedFromMyEarsBass]

I'm sure in about 10-15 years we will have a documentary about Queen Elizabeth the hidden truth of her being really black

[@michaelkeha]

To be fair you Yanks do have an ego atm granted it comes from the legitimate place of you are the current world empire but it's there

[@yaB0i_Hawkx]

@Tales Telling i feel like they're just one big step away from total bankruptcy. I mean from their weird updates to the shitshow of smth called netflix original.... And removing good shows to replace them with this kind of content. Man, no where did i see a company trying so hard to fail. My headcanon is that a angry twitter user or reddit mod or smth is the ceo of netflix or just a troll in general.

[@tylerlapalm4020]

Alot of us are egotistical. Not all of us but alot. I think it is mainly due to social media.

[@NickThorbjørnsen2207]

"I don't care what they tell you in school, Cleopatra was black." "Nice argument Grandma, care to back it up with a source?" "My source is I made it the fuck up!!"

[@fazzfaiez4496]

Nahh, i sure the source is that Grandma's grandma

[@ayf1983]

I dare Netflix to do a Black Hitler docuseries. " Hitler was really black, ya' know. " It'd be just as accurate as this series was.

[@NickThorbjørnsen2207]

@Fazz Faiez yes I'm well aware dude. It's a metal gear solid reference.

[@NickThorbjørnsen2207]

@@ayf1983 I'd watch the fuck out of that.

[@maxcanonstunner6532]

​@@ayf1983 Can't wait to see Hitler's reaction to that. Then again, he was too evil to be blackwashed.

[@ningen6392]

i really love the point you made. Some people think Africa as a singular country and chooses to ignore or disrespect all the different amazing culture, nations and people in the continent.

[@assassin8636]

Wait really?

[@Gorbz]

"I don't care what they teach you in school, Henry VIII was two Dwarves in a coat, and him getting fat was because they started a family"

[@JR-vq9gs]

I would watch this historical documentary

[@EVALLOYD]

Don't forget to mention that his 2nd wife, Anne Boleyn, was black and was portrayed as such a in British mini-series.

[@Gorbz]

@@EVALLOYD Oh, of course!

[@TheZodiacz]

@@EVALLOYD they made Queen Charlotte black too- seems every queen was black. The late Elizabeth II must have used a lot of talcum powder on her face.

[@DarknessDust]

I knew it

[@MrPonytron]

If my grandma blatantly lied to me about history, I'd just assume she knows nothing about history or she's just senile

[@brandoncampanaro7571]

Or trying to indoctrinate you into a woke movement

[@Papa_Straight]

I'd just go yeahhh right right after everything else she says

[@yorbelscorb9405]

She had curly hair, like mine! 😂

[@promemerboy1765]

Looks like grandma forgot her meds

[@stevenscott2718]

To steelman that old ladies gandma's ingnorance she was probaly born pre-ww2 and was probaly very under-educated so assumed african = black so when combined with the blantant whitewashing in movies and tv at the time, she thought white Cleopatra was just another case of whitewashing. The Granddaughter on the otherhand has no excuse.

[@tranquilthoughts7233]

Calling a series depicting a black cleopatra a documentary is like calling the movie Braveheart a documentary.

[@alexcore697]

Braveheart is a great movie

[@whitewitch32]

And is more accurate 😂

[@alexcore697]

@@whitewitch32 Braveheart was pretty accurate only thing wasnt accurate was Stirling Bridge battle,,,He never met the french princess and he wasnt called Braveheart

[@aahzmandiaz2767]

The moment you realize that "Escape from L.A." and "Demolition Man" are now more of a documentary than Netflix Cleopatra.

[@FloatingOnAZephyr]

@@alexcore697 I suggest watching it again!! The very first frame of the film has the wrong date on it. It’s pure fiction.

[@jordirapper]

I think this was Jade's idea. After the whole Will slapping thing, she started appearing more and more in media for all the wrong reasons. I can imagine her being like "Doh I am a queen! Like cleopatra! Make me a serie of cleopatra and I should be her!"

[@nikkid4890]

Calling Cleopatra black is like saying Shaka Zulu was white. No matter how much we 're-imagine' it, it will NEVER be factually true

[@Uhu21]

@Ken North even Mandela was white . We all know that

[@nikkid4890]

@Ken North 🤣🤣🤣

[@johndoe-mx1fo]

Question? How do you know about the history of Africa?

[@vitamind4008]

Agreed, but it seems we are in the age of "Its true because I want it to be!"

[@PeoplePleaser578]

“Blackwashing isn’t a thing” Looks at Cleopatra. Looks at Charlotte of Mecklenburg. Yes it is a thing.

[@crustybomb115]

looks at anne boleyn....

[@kingcosworth2643]

Also, imagine they did a movie on Rosa Parks, and Emma Watson playing the lead, their heads would explode in unison.

[@srichael2713]

Race doesn't matter they say... then why change it in the first place!?

[@maxcanonstunner6532]

Me: *Looks at MJ and Ariel*

[@Charlie0l9]

@@maxcanonstunner6532 those are fictional characters.

[@CthulhuTheory]

The irony here is their "y'all are just being racist and threatened by blackness" might've even worked if they avoided all the nonsense in the documentary about cleopatra being black. They could've pulled the "colorblind casting" and "selected the best person for the role" line, and that would've resulted in half the viewers arguing amongst themselves about that. But no.... They assumed that they can just "y'all racists" and get away with it.

[@srichael2713]

It's criticism shielding nothing more. If you see an adaptation where there is an obvious swap and its actors like to trumpet it (like how the actress playing Disa in RoP was doing), it is a big red flag that the movie or series will suck with any criticism including legit ones being labeled as racist or bigoted.

[@sandrapotter6897]

It doesn't matter what color the actress is,,,, it matters that it is JP Smith. I believe no one likes her after she made her husband act like that.Well, at least I don't.

[@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766]

They have become the more racist people to ever live. Idgaf about any of it anymore. Let them fight it out and destroy their own world even faster. There’s a reason the % of the population is in massive decline. Left to do as they please they kill each other. Don’t care who don’t like facts. Facts don’t give a fig about people’s emotional instability

[@seeuther2012]

Tell that to the Egyptians has nothing to do with being racist

[@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766]

@@seeuther2012 she wasn’t Egyptian idiot

[@user89389]

I swear, you could get more knowledge about the ancient Egypt from playing Assassin's Creed : Origins than you get from watching this so-called documentary. Let that sink in. A video game with plenty of fantastical elements and made-up characters, lore and driving forces is more true to reality than a "documentary" meant to "educate". Truly... What a time to live.

[@robertmaybeth3434]

I hear attacking, humiliating and shaming your fans is a highly effective business tactic, which almost invariably results in great success.

[@GuapoJhimi]

It is working great for Budweiser.

[@davidjsaul]

Must be since they all keep doing it. Oh well, definition of insanity and all that...

[@KelliRocks]

It's called SIGN language: Shame, Insult, Guilt, and the Need to be right. It's the Marxist feminists' playbook for ending arguments that they can't win with facts.

[@salkeen1]

Smashed it out of the park mate. As a Greek man from northern Greece (where cleopatra hailed from) I’m gobsmacked at the cheek. It feels like a sustained, orchestrated attack at my culture and people. It’s not the first time I’ve come across Afrocentric claptrap like this; they’ve made all kinds of weird claims before. But usually those comments were made by a troll on social media spamming with doctored pictures of vases and paintings, not an entire studio and its entire faculty. Thank you for standing up for the truth in the way that you have. Someone has to call them out. It’s immoral and exhausting. American ignorance used to be a distant joke. Today, is a lived reality even for those of us who aren’t Americans.

[@stevenhoskins7850]

This wasn't born out of ignorance. This is an agenda. It's also a conspiracy theory that some of them have. Some of them truly believe that sub-Saharan Africans were the original Hebrews and Egyptians, and that somehow, the evil white devil has re-written history, denying them of their great heritages. These people are like flat-Earthers. Completely brain dead.

[@jellyrolly]

well, technically northern greece is where her ancestor came from since she was born in egypt, but yes, i agree that her protrayal as ridiculous in the netflix series.

[@ImWatchingYou69]

Based Macedonians. Don't let these hacks insult your culture.

[@justanotherhappyhumanist8832]

We have the same problem here in the U.K. People telling us that Anne Boleyn and Henry VIII were black. That Mary, Queen of Scots, servants were transgender. It’s ridiculous.

[@axiss5840]

It is, truly, a sustained attack on culture. And it's coming ENTIRELY from a tiny cabal of western 1%ers who have no culture of their own and have everything they could possibly want, but it doesn't fill the gaping hole of self-worth and belonging they crave.

[@a_lost_one]

All they had to do was say "This is NOT a documentary, this is a 'what if Cleopatra was black?' " and no one would have cared. Once they started saying that they wanted to rewrite history, was when the backlash started.

[@mrawesome1688]

So true. If it was a work of fiction... would just make it a bit more OK... even though personally I would not watch it because it wouldn't immerse me into the real historical events. But at least I understand it's fictional, and actors are just acting its their job. But this is an evil work. Just attacking and altering someone's culture and history. The actors who participate in something like that should be ashamed of themselves and the studio disserves every critism that is coming to it.

[@BigMike-1998]

​@@mrawesome1688 especially when they're so adamant that they are in the right when they're clearly in the wrong

[@ShaggyRogers1]

@@mrawesome1688 If it was clearly a dramatization, then casting choices could be more forgiving. However, when you market it as a "docuseries" and then make a point to "reimagine" a REAL PERSON, you are culturally appropriating and rewriting history. There is real damage there, because an ignorant person sees "documentary series" and then expects to learn actual knowledge and facts. Attempting to rewrite Egyptian history because of American race sentiments is the height of offensive behavior. It is even worse because American race hustlers have begun pushing the afro-centrist farce, which has led to actual attacks against Egypt and its people by US race hustlers and their followers across the American and African continents who ignorantly push their BS.

[@blackheart7886]

'Blacklash'.... ho ho ho

[@MasticinaAkicta]

Yup call it just a drama and it might fly through.

[@parapendejadas4913]

"Remember kids, no matter what they tell you in school, Cleopatra was a 17ft male transformer"...

[@jonbaxter2254]

As a lover of history, it hurts how these people have jobs.

[@salissmosal4612]

@Jon Baxter stopped being lover of history, go get knowledge Dig deeper to find the truth, Nothing is earned just by love but hard working. If you love someone you can't have the person unless you tell, show, care and prove that love.

[@wesleysolomon5364]

As a South African, I'm proud that my Northern neighbours are having their voices heard. I feel as though many black Americans have heard that Africa is the "motherland", that they truly believe that only black people live on this continent. Selective western media depictions in their news certainly doesn't help either. And thus we have people like Jada talking out their assholes trying to spout their fiction as fact. Even before the centuries of colonization that really mixed all the colours together, indigenous "brown" people also existed here in Africa.

[@GuapoJhimi]

Obviously, "civilization" did not erupt from a people that did not advance through eons of time. Human-kind? Maybe. Civilization? No. Our system of numbers and the decimal system was adopted from the Hindu-Arabic nation/s. Not central Africa. Just as the Wright Bros. didn't design and build the 747.

[@zazahabib4343]

❤❤

[@XiaoFury]

I'm a Blk American. The whole "African-American" thing is a term that our dumb politicians (democrats) made up to compare us with the poorest of poor Africans, and to make us hate our own country. I always hated being called African-American because I don't know much about Africa. I'm an American!

[@DecScape]

Remember anyone not black in Africa are colonizers so "they" don't consider anyone other than black should be in Africa. So to many they would argue anyone not black are not supposed to be there. I've heard if from Black Americans and from Black Africans, that live in the USA.

[@denisechappell3434]

Maybe they regard Africa as a universal country, rather than a continent of individual countries, with their own particular cultures and histories.

[@Mkeatonisbatman]

It's difficulty to argue against things like this as an American because you'll always be called out as "racist" even though all you're arguing for is truth and wanting people to realize that just because someone is a minority doesn't automatically mean they can't be on the wrong side of an argument. So many people in the US have swung so hard the other direction that for most of us that live somewhere in the middle on politics are getting hit over the head by extremes on both sides and it's getting tiring.

[@G36645]

It’s a messed up country

[@LilyUnicorn]

​@@kulwych6167not a badge of honour but a badge of nonsense. Eventually its going to be such an overused accusation, no one will ever take it seriously. Im a minority but i see this BS and Im like FU all. My arse is ugly so i get the worst of it😂

[@kevinprzy4539]

@@G36645 believe me there's a lot worse countries try going to Canada where you'll be suggested medically assisted suicide over treatment for PTSD

[@G36645]

Yeah but at least you can cross the street legally

[@AE-ue2ro]

Yeah 1000%

[@BBBrasil]

"When does ignorance become malevolence?" Well phrased.

[@havoc1134]

American here: I both understand and cherish history. We’re not all like those children in Hollywood. …and I vote malevolence.

[@ChaoticYak1]

Another American here who has a Ph.D. in history, and I too vote malevolence. They furious that anyone is questioning this choice and they want everyone to stop, but they can't stop an entire country and they hate it.

[@badlaamaurukehu]

This is all primarily from a specefic sub-set of American society. Especially those in education fields.

[@C.Church]

Have you ever complained about white Jesus? ... about a black Jesus? ... (black Santa?)

[@PerfectTangent]

@@badlaamaurukehu The socialist/critical consciousness sub-set.

[@Muckylittleme]

What is odd is that this is happening to European cultures yet it is celebrated within those cultures by the media and governments that are supposed to represent them. Did I say "odd"? Sorry, I meant gen-oh-sydal and evil. 100% malevolence.

[@JG-li4go]

“I remember my Grandmother saying to me ... I don’t care what they teach you at school, Cleopatra was black.” Granny off her meds again

[@guntertorfs6486]

Never on them.

[@cwisthbulpabont7749]

She must've been a Paul Mooney fan

[@Ben-rz9cf]

I used to think Freud was nutjob describing stuff like penis envy. But now i know that not just penis envy but also racial and cultural envy are definitely a serious complex that some of these women have.

[@Samizouza]

Granny had parkinsons disease

[@opalo4113]

It's actually a good sign that most people think it's stupid. It shows that there's still a significant amount of people around who still have working brains.

[@GORO911]

0:51 *"How about colonising Egyptian history so that you can erase an indigenous population from their cultural heritage"* Man you are good with words.

[@sonofthebearking3335]

Yes

[@SankofaRed]

That quote is horribly inaccurate.

[@GORO911]

@@SankofaRed The quote is totally accurate. He described Afrocentrism perfectly. Blacks stealing history of other nations because they are ashamed of their own,

[@私たちは一緒に行進します]

I'm actually quite sad that the actress reacted this way. She could have actually come out of this with a fair bit of respect. Her performance was actually quite good, and it isn't her fault she was cast in the role. But she just burned that bridge unfortunately

[@imdaedalus]

They're trying to rewrite history , it's as simple as that.

[@thatHARVguy]

Can't rewrite history without *REEE.*

[@flamethrow868]

You made an excellent point there at the end, one I was thinking about. The massive backlash about this 'documentary' is absolutely rooted in a 'build up'. Hollywood has been erasing foreign cultures for years, and these past few years, in order to appease their own political agenda, have gone on to do it even more aggressively and to a number of cultures. As a North African, I've seen this for years, the assumption that all African are black, or that even all of the Black African have the one, same culture. It's incredibly patronizing and ignorant at the same time. You can't expect to blatantly change a whole culture, mis-inform the world about it and just profit off of that culture without any backlash from people.

[@virginiahouse231]

Sometimes I think that people think that Africa is a country and not a continent. That it has multiple countries and cultures. I blame the education system for this. It’s like they are more interested in indoctrination and making activists than in education.

[@firehorsewoman414]

@@virginiahouse231 that is so true. I have come across this from whites and blacks alike.

[@simban00]

Greek history has been getting seriously butchered since the 70's. Like the black Athena theory that Greeks were black. The KKK may have put Greeks Italians and blacks all together and now Jada is continuing the racism. Why is she even a celebrity

[@theblackastronautleo1219]

This is Netflix The same streaming service that allowed Cuties to exist. So this isn't surprising

[@pure-blood17]

Obama is an executive at Netflix….that should put the problem in perspective.

[@PALACIO254]

And butchered cowboy bebop

[@GanondorfsWife]

@@pure-blood17 wait WHAT?!?! Now that I didn't know. Maybe bumbling biden paid for cuties... Eugh.

[@pure-blood17]

@@GanondorfsWife ….as soon as he got involved with Netflix, the pedo crap started.

[@jaco3394]

You make a really great point. For years, Hollywood has made films about other countries, their histories and cultures from an outside POV and expected everyone to just accept it as a good thing. Benevolent Hollywood gracing other countries with time and money to tell their stories, without including the countries in question in the dialogue while preaching inclusivity and diversity. And for a long time, we all did accept it because Hollywood was such a super power. Maybe it's due to streaming and people having so many other avenues to get content, but we are just fed up with them, I think. Either actually include people from other countries in those specific projects (which is easier now than it has ever been) and treat them with respect or stop making them.

[@loserinasuit7880]

Dude this is just black people saying they're Egyptians. You're way off in analysis and Hollywood has made tons of fantasy films and films about America.

[@tangentwhisper1486]

You know what's weird? If they had just said it was a historical fiction or alt-history take before the show came out, there still would have been some backlash, but they could fall back on that. The fact that they tried to pawn it off as historically accurate when there's physical evidence of who Cleopatra was and what she looked like, that's what's upsetting.

[@kxkxkxkx]

Facts are unfair and all opinions deserve equity; this is Marxist Logic☝️

[@LilyUnicorn]

There is more than one cleopatra but the most famous ones are all phoenician greek, not even egyptian.

[@hannahkennelly6961]

They should just call it historical fantasy, I think people may have accepted it a little better. Like Bridgerton.

[@tangentwhisper1486]

@@hannahkennelly6961 Historical fantasy could even be cool, an open ocean of what-ifs and possibilities. However I also see the danger. I used to buy into some unhealthy myths because I didn't think outside of the face value. I've been trying to do more research and make sure I'm not just talking out of thin air on things. Sad part is, I'd have loved to see a show with real African folklore. Not America's version of Africa, but the real thing. Because there's so much from so many vibrant cultures, I don't think we'd even know where to start. Sorry for the paragraph, force of habit XD

[@mimoogreat9510]

They can't lol their only focus on the movies was her race, if the race wasn't mentioned at all in the movie maybe that could work but .

[@Laramaria2]

Respect is easy, but ignorance is easier. This was such a disrespectful thing. Not only towards Egyptian culture but also to the beautiful diversity of Egypt! You guys deserve better. 😢

[@Mostspecialusername]

it's disrespectful to black Africans too. Making fake black history documentaries when they could do the real thing.

[@stormb8433]

Lol you mean the Egyptian culture that wasn’t even discovered until 1798 by the French? How sure are you that the people were white?

[@demhadeas5065]

​@@stormb8433 have u heard of the Coptic people and what language they do use in the church u ignorant low person

[@NowWayHome]

​@@stormb8433 cauze only Blacks were slaved into building Pyramids Not whites so shes White cauze No one would Listen to a Slave

[@watulukamedia6724]

So you think the sphinx is white? Cleopatra didn’t look like Liz taylor either. The God of Egypt movie had most people white, hisyor tells us that was inaccurate. Cleopatra bombed not because cleopatra was portrayed by a mixed lady but because people have been fed false info for such a long time. In my view cleopatra was not black but nerfetiti was.

[@Ailar2209]

If you're making a program about Egypt, and you've got Zahi Hawass disagreeing with you, you're in trouble (at least in world where facts count, which admittedly doesn't include modern Hollywood). Calling Hawass "an egyptologist" is a bit like calling Ennio Morricone "a composer". He's a bit of a controversial figure for a number of reasons (Hawass, not Morricone), but he most definitely knows what he's talking about when it comes to Ancient Egypt

[@layal2258]

Zahi hawas now is making a new documentary or movie about celiopetra with eygptions actors

[@thomasbarca9297]

@@layal2258 I was wondering when Zahi was gonna to do it

[@narimannaser4579]

jada’s grandma knows better! Duh!

[@grantquinones]

Du ne coo ns want to get in on the appropriation

[@eval_is_evil]

​@@layal2258 Iol that is awesome

[@simondymond8479]

How is it even possible to screw up a portrayal of one of the most interesting historical figures like this? Netflix: Hold my beer! We are going full woke on this one and yes, we shall be stealing her identity and totally misrepresenting her too.

[@KaiElken]

What's interesting is that there was actually a period in ancient Egyptian history when there were, in fact, black pharaohs. One of the most known among them was Taharqa. Also, in ancient times Egypt has always had complicated and complex relationships with Nubia and Nubians. If Netflix really wanted to make a show about the role of black historical figures in Egyptian history, they could have easily done this by making it about one of the black pharaohs or Nubian rulers who fought/traded/had diplomatic relationships etc with Egypt. And that would actually be cool because it's something not many people know about. But no. They deliberately chose to lie and twist the story about someone we know for sure wasn't black. Which shows very clearly they don't care about history at all, including the history of Africa and black Africans. It's just ideology.

[@JustMe99999]

The black Pharoah's lasted about 100 years.

[@KaiElken]

@Just Me so what? I'm just saying if they wanted to show black rulers of Egypt, they absolutely could because those actually existed. But it wasn't their goal.

[@JustMe99999]

@@KaiElken It wasn't a particularly consequential part of Egypt's history and wouldn't be a great subject for a documentary. However, there are other black rulers in Africa that might be more interesting.

[@KaiElken]

@Just Me absolutely. That's my point - if they want black historical figures in ancient times, there is material out there. They don't have to invent or "reimagine" anything.

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

​@@KaiElken It's because they feel like their stories aren't as well known as the so called "white stories"

[@deniserobinson8294]

As an American, this whole situation is ridiculous and angers me. Idiotic people like this make the rest of us look bad.

[@frankieseward8667]

Indeed. Can you imagine the fire raining on the US if they claimed Margaret Thatcher was Irish or Charkes De Gaulle was Arabic? They'd be demanding our heads

[@pyromanemane8036]

You dont want know what the world realy thinks about the USA 😂

[@balloonman257]

@@pyromanemane8036 we know, trust me. We let the dumbest among us speak the loudest

[@pyromanemane8036]

@@balloonman257 such dumbis like trump? 😂

[@esraaelbasha8315]

Then you need to speak out and support the truth! We are facing extreme racism just for who we are .. Egyptians.

[@wendys390]

The world has gotten extremely obnoxious, and I find myself angry too often about this and other things. Why do people have to be so stupid.

[@hardkore360]

Dont worry Cleo Season 2 will introduce dragons and how Cleo defeated the Wokearyans all with her 1 dragon 😂😂😂😂😂

[@dudepool7530]

Because Idiocracy was right...

[@liberatumplox625]

Cleoclaptrap 2: Eclectic Dragon Spew

[@hadassahchayim0424]

I'm American - you're on point. Thank you!

[@adamwest8256]

As an American, I will say it's not all of us that sees the world in that way. People like me who are intelligent and worldly in mind not only understand American history, but world history as well. Funny story, but not completely related to topic. I attended a truck driving school with a man who was born and raised in South Africa and he was white. He became an airline pilot and moved to the U.S.. He gave up flying because he always wanted to be an American truck driver (go figure). We shared a hotel room while attending the school. One evening we were watching the news and there was a piece on African Americans gang violence. He turned to me and said "This people are not African Americans. I'm more African American than any of them. I was born in Africa. These are just black Americans". His point was very valid.

[@gagatube]

South Africans are a lot more comfortable saying "black" than Americans are - Americans have been taught it's racist, even when it's accurate - and "black" in the US also includes pretty much everyone who isn't "white", so it isn't very specific. "African American", as I interpret it, is shorthand for "an American of African descent" which (although it suffers from the problem of treating Africans as a single ethnic group) is, in the US context, at least more accurate and socially acceptable.

[@adamwest8256]

@@gagatube I agree with your reply. Now, as a what If. An Australian aborigine emigrate to America. What would the left label them? Of course the aborigines are very dark complected and to one unfamiliar with said individual, would assume they are African. That assumption would be very far from the truth. One could argue that they are from African descent because they migrated over thousands of years, out of Africa, through the Middle East, through southern Asia, then crossed over to Australia during the last ice age. Well then the whole entire race issue can be completely negated for the entire world. As humans moved north to colder climates with less hours of daylight, they lost the natural sun blocking chemical, melanin, to be able to absorb more sunlight to create vitamin d to survive. I'm writing a novel now. Sorry. Point, we are all in some degree African, and racism is dumb. I see you're a different color, cool. Does that the define who you are, no. Cleopatra was Greek. So, maybe not pasty white like goth kids, but definitely not black.

[@zenvariety9383]

Yeah, my pastor is South African and is a US citizen.

[@gagatube]

@@adamwest8256 Logically you are correct but few people live in a logically consistent world. "Does (skin colour) define who you are?" - logically no, as you say. But throughout history it has often defined who you are in a political sense. Today there are many people who _want_ skin colour to define who they are in order to gain kudos, social status or portray victimhood that they would perhaps not otherwise deserve.

[@melissastreeter22]

Smokey Robinson is on KZbin saying he doesn't like the term African American. Paraphrasing, he said, "We've been in this country 400 years. I'm American."

[@mattkindig7460]

This was SO intentional!! This was done because they thought no one would fight back against this atrocity. I think they were truly taken aback by the backlash they received. So they followed Disneys playbook and attacked the audience. Guess it didn’t work out so well this time!🤔🤔🤣🤣

[@citizenvulpes4562]

Even the critics bombed the movie. When both critics AND audiences hate the movie, then you know you messed up.

[@Samizouza]

They messed up so badly on that one for being idiots

[@AWZool]

@@citizenvulpes4562 The critics are snot-spine bastards, and only staying away because this time it's POC vs POC and not POC vs white. You can be sure if this was a white skinned historical figure made dark, they'd praise it for its inclusivity and diversity..

[@sleepforever3494]

It was done to piss people off. They know people aren't going to like these shows, but they continue to buy the rights to everything and race and gender swap everyone to troll their opposition.

[@corden9941]

I love it when they ask, "why does it matter? Why are you even noticing? Why are you making it about race? Why do you need a white actor?" When they are the ones who made the whole thing about race in the first place. Why do you need a black actor?

[@DeadPixel1105]

Exactly what I've been saying for years now when a white character in a film or TV show is suddenly swapped out with a black actor. The ultra-progressives say: "You're triggered because the character is now black? What's your problem with black people? You're racist!" And I'd always counter with: "But YOU'RE the ones changing the race of white characters. It seems white characters bother YOU and YOU feel the need to change their race. Why are YOU bothered by white characters?"

[@dr.jonathanlangleydc7411]

Hats off to you Disparu! As an American, I have to agree with your comments on our obsession here with race, to the point where it overshadows historical fact. While there are many things I am proud of about my country, the current US madness over this issue is not one of them. Must be entertainment for those of you watching us from the outside in. Keep up the great commentary!

[@matttully3178]

Surprised to see the critic score that low. Even with Velma, critics felt comfortable enough to defend it. Hopefully this is the first stone in an avalanche where critics begin to start becoming more objective again, though that has about a snowball’s chance in hell.

[@lostalone9320]

Velma was made to appeal to nihilistic wine drinking spinsters who think they are still cool. The critics actually liked it. And that's fine, honestly. Their opinions showed how laughably out of touch they are. On this trash though... Even the critics know better than to talk about it.

[@troyhageman3173]

There's a difference between hopes and dreams. It's important to recognize that difference.

[@mammonsimp6973]

Altho I hate Velma, there's some scene where I feel I'm getting into the mystery but then, they went and do stupid jokes.. so my focus just went 📉📉📉

[@chrismcintyre5445]

I am not that suprised. Hatred against Egyptian history and culture is a different sell than just pure hatred towards white people, which is an apparent defensible position in the west now. I always thought they would either be 100% for black washing of history, or against it because we aren't talking about an entirely white history. There was never a middle ground for this.

[@etruscancivilization]

I am sure the critics low score comes from WHITE RACIST Critics ha ha.. surprise, surprise, surprise

[@dorn0531]

I hate that line ‘why is it good that she was Greek?’ It’s not good or bad. It’s FACT. They have this wierd idea that fact is second to emotion

[@boobah5643]

Didn't you know? _Facts_ and _evidence_ are white supremacy. Whether you take that to mean that _white supremacy_ has nothing to do with race or that they themselves hold some incredibly racist views is up to you.

[@srichael2713]

It's a version of obfuscation that they want people to not notice the swap. These are people who would say "race/color doesn't matter" when it comes to movies and series. If race/color doesn't matter then why CHANGE it in the first place!?

[@neveenelnagdy4383]

Yes am Egyptian and I wished to tell her that it’s a fact 🤷‍♀️😂

[@VenathTehN3RD]

Right? Why was it good that Martin Luther King Jr. was black? Why was it good that Mahatma Gandhi was Indian? Why was it good that Oda Nobunaga was Japanese? Why was it good that Napoleon Bonaparte was Corsican? It wasn't. That's just what they were, regardless of whether people consider it a good or bad thing.

[@dorn0531]

@@VenathTehN3RD EXACTLY

[@antonkovalenko364]

I'm an American. We are dealing with a Frankfurt School style cultural takeover which, unfortunately, leads to rubbish like this. Hollywood has been hemorrhaging money the past couple of years because we are voting with our wallets, and it is satisfying to watch. I've worked with Egyptian folks before, and it makes complete sense to me why they are so angry over this. They brook no BS when it comes to their beliefs nor with their history. I see the backlash as a good thing. As embarrassing as it is as an American to have the rest of the world ridicule our nation, it needs to happen in order put the spotlight on the historic revisionism that is dumbing our citizens down to an alarming degree.

[@siewheilou399]

Contemporary Egyptians do not believe in pharaoh worship, they are mostly muslims now, with a small pocket of Coptics.

[@jasonk.-im6od]

We are not ridiculing the US. Only the woke garbage. God bless the USA.

[@BayStateObserver]

@@siewheilou399 - - And even smaller number of Catholics, alas. But all of them are good patriots protesting this hijacking of their history for the sake of Cultural Marxism and Hollywood nonsense. Good for you, Egypt!

[@antonkovalenko364]

@@siewheilou399 I thought that was a given, and that they brook no BS over it. I mean, they had not worshipped pharaohs since ~1000BC, when the animal cults took over. I said I am an American, not an idiot.

[@A-h.m.e-d]

@@siewheilou399 "a small pocket of Coptics" are you serious ? there are more than 12 million Christian in Egypt

[@sherilumley5498]

Hollywood has been inserting multiple nationalities into roles portraying Vikings for the last 10 years (at least). This has always been bothersome to me and I wondered why nothing was ever said. It wasn't until I watched a Norwegian produced movie where the ending had a parody with the American movie producers replacing the Norwegian actor with a black man for the re-told "true" story. Why Hollywood has decided they get to erase another peson's culture is absurd.

[@jfkst1]

I love the part of the trailer where a random black lady says her grandmother told her Cleopatra was black. As if that is any way valid.

[@GuapoJhimi]

Yeah. Well, my granny told me if I kept playing with it, it would fall off. Luckily, it didn't. But, it did stunt it's growth.

[@jamesdavis8937]

If Cleopatra was black, then pigs can fly.😂

[@ayf1983]

"I don't care what they taught you in school" Well that sentence right there summarizes a lot of what US public education is.

[@HalfLifeOfHumanity]

I'm Algerian-American, and this is like the polar opposite of when Morocco ran the World Cup all the way to the semi finals. Every North African who cared about Soccer was overjoyed with pride and brotherly and sisterly connection in our feelings. North Africans, from Morocco to Egypt, were connected because almost never is there any North African rep. I'm not even the same race as an Egyptian, because most people from Morocco to Libya are ethnically Amazight or Berber, and Egypt and East is mostly Arabic. But I still know the feeling of having no modern media representing any of North Africa. And of course they choose an African American to star as Cleopatra herself, the most widely known female Egyptian of all time (with the most famous male being the Robot man himself ofc).. It'd be just as weird if they chose a Native American, Latin American, White American, etc. But honestly, an typical white American hollywood actress would be better than this, because then at least it'd be teaching people about how diverse Africa truly is. So many people think Africa is just all black, they don't understand how different an Ethiopian, who have genetic haplotypes showing that European whites came from the people of this area of Africa, and a Congolese person are. People already don't know Berbers exist and assume we're all Arabs. It'd be great for an Egyptian-based series about a time period RIGHT after the fall of Carthage, when it was still very much in recent world memory, to dig into the rich untapped history of the Amazight and the deeply entrenched sometimes good, sometimes bad, but always present diplomatic relations they had with the Egyptians. It could have been fascinating to show Sephardic Jews during a time of persecution for them in Egypt at the time, and how the millions of Sephardic Jewish people that exist today only exist because of the thousands of years that they sought and received refuge in Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia from our geographic neighbors who were pretty shit at hospitality with them from the Egyptian slavery of the time, Roman persecution of Jewish people, both of which were occuring at the time causing people to move to Numidia (Berber North Africa) and mix racially for thousands of years leading to a new race of people that is one of the main sub-groups of the Jewish population.. Nevermind the Spanish inquisition and similar European sentiments that lead to many more Jewish people seeking asylum in Numidia a bit further down the line. But it was that time period where Sephardic people really started to create communities in Numidia, and it could have been fascinating to see them begin putting down roots in a new land neighboring Egypt.. But no.. I'm sure this dumb thing ignores all the history, focuses on dumb melodrama, and makes a white African look black. FFS its a disservice to the country of Africa to not depict the fact that there is a huge skin color gradient in that part of the world, from blonde blue eyed North Africans to darker skinned black hair, brown eyed North Africans. But Cleopatra was white, and most people will continue on ignorant of the fact that Africa has such diverse ethnicities thanks to garbage media like this.

[@all4fishing14]

Ignoring black people because your skin is less dark is already happening in northern african countries (like Tunis) In return ..light coloured people from northern african states are (for decades) ignored in whole Europe!! Greeting from Amsterdam..

[@justaminute3111]

Actually, the Egyptian population is most closely related to the Palestinian/Israeli Sabra population. Although there is more Sub-saharan African genes in the Egyptian group which they think came from post Islamic slavery.

[@juliandinkins2531]

The actress playing Cleopatra is not African American. She is a mixed race woman from England. Her mother is white and her father is black.

[@itsme5633]

Welcome bro! But we are NOT mainly Arabs! We are EGYPTIAN ethnicity with some mixed DNA of Arabs, Amazight, Nubians, Europeans, Turkish and others. Even new researches through the last 25 years about our DNA confirmed that. We are so proud that we speak Arabic and can read the holy Qura'n fluently. Although only 5000 Arabs came to Egypt with Amro Ibn El-As, but Egyptians at that time converted to Islam very very quickly in huge numbers because of course it is a very attractive religion and they loved it quickly like they always loved religions and searched for God all the time. By the way we still have words and social celebrations since 7000 years ago! Do you know we have some areas in south Egypt still speak the ancient Egyptian language! I think soon it will be taught again in all our schools. We are very proud that we have brothers and sisters from Arab and Amazight and others in the same middle east region with common interests an very much love.

[@Peryite_the_Platypus]

Do not forget the Vandals (an east germanic tribe) and their reign in north africa. (from which the expression vandalism derives) It is always saddining of how ignorant most people are of how intertwined the histories of different people are. I talked with some people (all with higher educational degrees) and almost none of them were even aware of the great influence of Greeks over Egypt (and vice versa). They know of Alexander and that he conquered alot...thats basically from where you have to start. But no we rather teach basically all members of society things in school (and university) which are 90% completelly useless yet alone knowledge that actually explains the world we live in today which is why historic knowledge never is useless. It is as important has how to know why there are seasons or why why the sun raises in the east. Historic knowledge is also an important antidote to racism yet Jada Pinkett-Smith thinks history needs to be altered in order to fight racism which is one of most mislead thinking you can encounter. History shows us that we have more in common then what devides us even if its mostly bloodshed.

[@martindunstan8043]

We currently have these notable cultures and figures from history incorrectly portrayed as black, Cleopatra, Henry VIII wife Anne Bolyen and the latest is Richard III king of England 1483-85 being played by a black woman in some bizarre PBS drama. I don't know whether to get angry, shake my head in disbelief or just laugh uncontrollably at how ludicrous it all is. As a 52yr old man of colour(pink🤣) I'm hoping for the lead role in a dramatisation of Nelson Mandela 🤣✌️

[@44LillPuffin]

Yeah a "documentary" and a work of fiction that admits it's a work of fiction and a kind of "alternative reality" romance aren't the same thing, though so armt comparable.

[@chcomes]

i think there is a difference in putting a person visually mismatching in a role, but not implying that that was true, and what they did here.

[@cuhurun]

Which would be the best choice, Tom Cruise or Keanu Reeves to play a 're-imagination' of the 19th century South African warrior chieftain, Shaka Zulu ? Reckon I'd personally opt for Reeves.

[@georgeedward602]

As well as notable figures incorrectly portrayed as white..I mean did Jesus really look like a European King..lol. The problem is not being able to accept the fact we might not be right.

[@sgtjoe2008]

i don't know what y'all been taught in school but nelson mandela is asian, and i prefer jacky chan to be the lead role for a documentary series