Cleveland City Council fights back after Browns propose building new stadium in Brook Park

[@iamtheCircus]

Investing another dollar of tax money into the browns should be illegal

[@anthonyvoss9150]

That's why Brookpark is the best spot for the team...that way you won't have to worry about funding it.

[@acey4626]

@@anthonyvoss9150 absolutely not lol

[@jeremyn277]

@@acey4626? The Haslam’s are paying for it

[@anthonyvoss9150]

@@ralphgreenjr.2466 because the team is the Cleveland Browns if Haslam has to fund it himself he can also relocate to any city of his choice...

[@acatguy23]

@@anthonyvoss9150 that’s what i’m saying, the browns moving to the suburbs may improve their chances of playing better on the field. if haslam would have agreed to bibbs deal it would have fucked over cleveland resident tax payers

[@robertwells6724]

NFL Owners want cities that are struggling to pay for their stadiums is wrong.

[@schrutefarmbeets4448]

Big Democrat cities are economic powerhouses that fund the red areas. That's why they have had huge population declines coupled with high poverty, crime, and failing public education.

[@TIMMTRACKTIMMY-LILDOG212]

this is exposing who been getting kick back people getting big mad

[@daca3312]

Love it

[@JayyCoall_]

I hope they never get the Funding until they actually field a fucking winning team. The chiefs win super bowls and play in a stadium older than ours!

[@LIL-MAN_theOG]

thats not a one in the same solution...a dome can actually bring a winning team. More players love playing in domes. You can actually have both...but we cannot, on taxpayer money, have a damn stadium used for only 8 games and a concert a year. Thats dumb as sh**

[@JayyCoall_]

@@LIL-MAN_theOG nope this team doesn't deserve new stadium until they field a winning team. I don't get rewarded when I fail why should they? Players prefer playing on real grass but the NFL doesn't care. Tf i care about what players want when they dont care about winning. 1-6 lol

[@sipesthebest128]

@DJ_BROBOT. "A dome can actually bring a winning team"... try selling that crap to Viking and Lion fans. A covering on a football stadium is not a panacea for the rot of the franchises' ownership.

[@frankseprino8610]

@@LIL-MAN_theOG Yeah, right...that's why old Municipal Stadium was used for 61 years!

[@jordanwheeler6678]

Their are rumors about the chiefs getting a new stadium so this isn’t really valid

[@surferbri5346]

The city can keep the stadium, the team is moving

[@PHN-2024]

Art Modell made the Smart Decision to Leave Cleveland.

[@andromedaspark2241]

The team should change the name. They aren't the "Cleveland" Browns anymore if they move.

[@bigfootwalker5399]

​@@andromedaspark2241the city owns the trademark, and they don't have to allow them to be called the Browns!

[@PHN-2024]

@@andromedaspark2241 How about the "Ohio" Browns? Currently Only the States of Tennessee, Minnesota and Arizona are being represented in their NFL Teams Names. While "New England" and "Carolina" are just Regional Monikers.

[@desitterspace2127]

It’s incredible just how myopic and useless these politicians running many of our cities are! Cleveland has a golden opportunity to develop its most desirable attribute, the lakefront, yet they’ll continue to cry about a stadium that sits empty most of the year! Crime and mismanagement have already destroyed the once thriving Flats, now you have a second chance to do something smart and creative by developing some of the most desirable real estate in northeast Ohio that will not only draw investment capital into Cleveland but generate jobs and tax revenue for the city as well! Or is grandstanding, lining your pockets by grifting, and pandering to the fools who keep voting for you the only things you’re truly good at?

[@LadieKadie]

Well that’s just facts. Can’t control criminals, who wants to travel down there.

[@thezendruid]

This is exactly what happens when democrat politicians are in charge of a city for decades. Cleveland gets exactly what it voted for

[@nicotoscani1984]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@Fjigg]

there is no point building a new stadium...it will be empty!! Fans hate the players, players hate the fans....team sucks, coaching sucks, front office sucks, ownership sucks

[@nicotoscani1984]

It is. They're building it for MORE THAN FOOTBALL

[@kyos8462]

Fans hate Watson, not the players. Just watson

[@kyos8462]

​@@nicotoscani1984then the haslams can pay for it

[@josejh-eb8st]

​@nicotoscani1984 why cant they use the current browns stadium? It's not even that old.

[@jordanwheeler6678]

@@josejh-eb8st The Stadium in bad shape when haslem bought the team in 2012 their were rumors going around he wasn’t a fan of the stadium

[@Westy0311]

Have fun trying to fight this in court. The owners have every right in wanting to build a new stadium on ground that they’ve already purchased. Approximately 60% of the stadiums in the NFL are built in the suburbs. If you want the stadium to stay, find a body of land that is away from the lake (too much rust prevention upkeep being that close to the lake) and that can house the facility that they’ve got in mind. We won’t wait too long because the owners have every legal right to do this and you have zero ground to stand on. You’re just mad that you’re not going to get anymore kick backs and the city is losing tax money, which you call revenue (another word for profit), that the city more than likely wastes.

[@nicotoscani1984]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@EarnYaBonez]

No they dont there are laws that they must abide before moving. Offer the team for sale to the public or another owner, the same way the haslam got to buy their soccer team.... Dont love the rule when it benefits you then ignore it when it henders you. Jimmy is a crook so i expect nothing less

[@Westy0311]

@@EarnYaBonez that rule or law you’re speaking of doesn’t apply to this situation. They’re not moving the team out of state but 15 minutes away. The city and county have zero legal standing in trying to bring litigation against the Haslem’s as they’re not breaking any laws.

[@216Numbskull]

​@@Westy0311 Too much rust prevention up keep on a stadium so close to the lake. Where'd you get that info from my friend? There's a big difference between Lake Erie (fresh water) & the Atlantic Ocean (salt water). Just the natural elements in Ohio causes more rust damage to iron & steel than Lake Erie will ever do & part of the reason why Ohio is AKA one of the rust belt states. Plus, it's not like big waves of water are coming off the lake & directly hitting the BROWNS stadium constantly. Just saying...

[@Westy0311]

@@216Numbskull it’s the mist and the moisture in the air that causes the rust on buildings close to bodies of water. Adding to all of this, the City of Cleveland owns the stadium and they’re barely doing any upkeep on it any longer. In 2028, the lease on the stadium ends and the Haslem’s have no legal responsibility to having a stadium in Cleveland actual. Daryl Ruiter (I hate quoting him as he’s wrong more often than he’s correct) said something recently: “Your honor, we know the Browns will have completely fulfilled the legal obligations of their lease, but we would like you to force them to sign a new one to keep playing in a decrepit city owned stadium we don’t even want to maintain!”

[@gregorydonatelli3429]

The NFL should be paying for their own franchise stadiums.

[@mchapman2424]

Im fine with building a new stadium if Haslem builds it with 100% of his own money. I dont want to fund a single penny towards some rich azzhole to make more billions and more pro masaage grapists to make 250 million while the working man gets nothing

[@rws91942]

That's the way I see it. He can build it anywhere he wants, as long as he pays for all of it.

[@Marcuswelby-nx2te]

Exactly

[@anthonyvoss9150]

That attitude from Mayor Mike White and fans is why the original Browns moved to Baltimore became the Ravens and won a Superbowl

[@daf631]

Why anyone would invest one penny into a stadium that only brings in 9-10 gates a year is the true voice of insanity. The amount of money that could be brought in downtown for 7-8 months out of the year would be staggering if one developed the lakefront with Marinas, ( boaters have money!), carnival like attractions, and of course waterfront hotels and restaurants. It would not even be close. Downtown and tourism would come to life with a developed downtown waterfront.

[@Marcuswelby-nx2te]

The almighty $$$

[@daf631]

@@Marcuswelby-nx2te for Utopians, the reality of life is money is what is required to live, and what both sides of this argument are after. The only difference is whether those dollars are for the regions greater good, or destined for some officials pocket. Not that you would ever have crooked officials in Cleveland.😂

[@thewatchfuleye8401]

you are poor. please be quiet.

[@von5314]

Yet Cleveland is more worried about their leader positions and how much $$$ they get paid over developing the city. Maybe fix the corruption and crime while their at it.

[@Westy0311]

@@daf631 do you realize that there is no area for the new stadium to be built in Cleveland actual? You’re not going to get Burke Lakefront as you have to pry that from the FAA. Anywhere near the lake front needs to have additional supports put into the ground to withstand the weight the stadium will have on that ground, which is sand. That’s the main reason why they’re not putting a retractable roof on the existing one. Have you taken in consideration what they already have to do in regard to maintenance of the existing stadium when it comes to rust prevention? If you want a developed lake front, why hasn’t the city council sought after developers to bring that plan to fruition? The answer to that is that they have no new ideas, are corrupt (want to dip their beak into the money being made), and are lazy.

[@randyfleet9968]

More welfare for the billionaires and p&ss on the taxpayers!

[@butchmiller2451]

Where were you folks when Modell had secret runway meetings in Baltimore, packed up and took the Browns out of Cleveland lock, stock and barrel?

[@Walter_Sobchak_43]

They can move it to Brookpark. Just dont expect us to pay another dime for it.

[@kylebayer1294]

Goodbye Cleveland Browns

[@josephrossetti8607]

Mesnwhile families struggle to afford housing and food.....but heres your new statidum to lose games in.

[@ultraunique3476]

Old heads always want to keep things the same it's time to move this garbage team outta town. It's a mistake on the lake. Let it go. Downtown Cleveland sucks

[@jasongates-]

First the Browns wanted the team to leave the city in 1996, now the Browns want the team AND the stadium to leave the city in 2024. What's the deal with the Browns wanting to leave so much? I think we need a stadium for the county in general, for usage in general, as rendered by the image the Browns came up with, but I don't think the Browns should move. Downtown is the central location that most people can get to. Keep the team downtown! Also, it's the CLEVELAND Browns, not the "everyone except for Cleveland" Browns. Just put a dome on the stadium downtown. But then, the city of Brook Park should buy the 175 acres, there, and build the rendering in the image, on its own, without the Browns moving. Also, if the Browns do move, one report said that the city will tear down the stadium downtown. Don't! Lets keep the stadium downtown, whether the Browns move or not. Even without the Browns, it can be useful for SOMETHING.

[@alexandrite2221]

If they do move, there are better uses for that prime lakefront spot than a teamless stadium that’s already not used for much. But I still don’t think they should move either. We’re still paying off this stadium.

[@sandtoy11510]

Politian's starting to panic because the money gravy train is leaving for the suburbs

[@SeanCle]

Not true. It’s the people with money that just want to put out a 💩 product and then use Cuyahoga County money to move their festering sore from the LakeFront to an ass cheek in the same county ?? The Haslams need to pay Watson $160 million over the next 2 seasons guaranteed?? The Haslams should sell the Browns to a local group. They suck as owners, they are out of touch and I will never stop at a Pilot gas station in my life again.

[@jessecaldwell6776]

I applaud the move to get out of downtown Cleveland. It’s always been a hassle. It’s always been dangerous and yeah, I would appreciate not having to go down there to watch a football game.

[@josejh-eb8st]

Then dont go to the game

[@jessecaldwell6776]

@@josejh-eb8st duh 🙄 aren’t you the intelligent one son?

[@t0nemolina]

At this point the Browns are doing nothing but hurting the city

[@JustVisiting]

Stop giving tax breaks to billionaires. These scams have to stop.

[@fatzotv]

Make the Haslems pay for it if they want a new stadium,,. No more tax payer money for this dawg shit

[@j.j.guerrieri5257]

If the Browns aren’t downtown then I’m done with them. How is moving the team out of Cleveland going to help an already angry fan base? Terrible idea. Need new owners.

[@marcushall6821]

It's Brook Park. Which is just minutes from downtown Cleveland which is basically still Cleveland. What's the problem? 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@j.j.guerrieri5257]

@@marcushall6821 we have a perfectly good stadium that isn’t even that old, and it’s in Cleveland. We don’t need a dome, we’re one of the few traditional outdoor teams left, have to keep it that way and keep it downtown

[@Pnk_Rckr]

​@j.j.guerrieri5257 except you lost to the Saints...a domed team...in the bitter cold. You don't have that kind of advantage anymore

[@j.j.guerrieri5257]

@@Pnk_Rckr I’m not sure what you mean. A good dome team can go into cold weather snd beat an average outdoor team.

[@Pnk_Rckr]

@@j.j.guerrieri5257 The 6-9 Saints? Led by Andy Dalton? Yeah, no. The Saints have been trash for a while. The Browns lost to a team that had less talent and played in their own environment that should have helped them given the circumstances, but they didn't

[@Chad-z9y]

I am lifetime browns fan I totally agree with the gentleman when he said put the money on the field, build a winning team for the fan experience, keep the browns on the lake front, and to hell with haslams idea of the dome

[@Fenrir-uv9ib]

LOL yeah go Cleveland! Because the last time you fought an owner over a new stadium it worked out so well for you!

[@davidfuentes289]

Worried about the crimes, safety, high taxes, unemployment, poverty, property taxes than the browns worthless city council and mayor urkel

[@DarkKing009]

Cleveland should not spend tax money on a stadium the city does not own. If the billionaire owner wants to move to the suburbs they would have to spend all of their money on it and none of the taxpayers

[@Steve.191]

Cities should own their own teams.

[@Off-The-X]

no. The facility. Then you get to dump the team when they suck!

[@RustyHeathen]

100% Agree!!! Keep it in Cleveland! Spend money on building a damn team that can win! And if you build a damn dome. Make it retractable! It’s a tradition I grew up on. And I want my kids to have the same experience!

[@nonenone1534]

Bills fan here - your stadium and surrounding area is very nice. We would love something that in Buffalo.

[@waynefinnicumbb7218]

Browns don't need a new stadium until they get a good qb that isn't a preditor, and put a good team on the field for the fans. The fans is where you get your money from, so you need to give them something worth paying for.

[@nicotoscani1984]

Get a life dude. This is bigger than football

[@josejh-eb8st]

​@nicotoscani1984 yes it is so why fund a new stadium?

[@waynefinnicumbb7218]

​@@nicotoscani1984get a life dude. Supporting a sexual preditor, says more about you than those of us that doesn't support a rapist.

[@Braydon-qu7md]

This is a pitiful joke. The Haslams have been a pitiful disgrace. I'm glad someone is fighting for us. "A fan experience" while they continue to make terrible decisions that lead to a dysfunctional organization and team. They don't want a fan experience, they want money in their pockets. This takes money away from the people of cleveland and gives more to this disgraceful owners. The fan experience Clevelanders are hoping for is the walk we make to the lakefront together, chanting, downtown, but most importantly to go support a winner. It's simple. It's not an LA or Vegas style air conditioned dome. It's a gritty, cold, Cleveland experience on the lake. Stay in Cleveland, we don't need this crap anymore from the Haslams.

[@miaimbeach314]

Too dangerous at the Browns Stadium.New stadium would have 1000 times more security.

[@MarkKrzepina]

We as fans are more then happy with the stadium we have now and very unhappy with what's on the field and a new stadium won't change the joke the browns have turned into.then when there hope with Dorsey at gm and Baker as QB you got rid of them both and we got racist Andrew Berry and a sexual predator watson.noe it's a dome holy smokes

[@jesseleblanc1199]

Hey guys we want you to invest in a new building and also pay to come watch games in a building you bought .......if you want the Cleveland fans to have an experience......stop pissing on their heads and telling them its raining.....put a great product on the field......

[@IcedCoffey85]

If Haslem wants to fund the entire project then that's fine. If I was the city of Cleveland, I would also deny paying a single dollar if they want to move out to the suburbs. Why piss away more tax dollars on a new stadium for a team that sucks. Hell, why not rename the team to the Brook Park Browns. They can have their fancy stadium and win 2 games a year lol.

[@ginobutafuocco9192]

Haslem's ideas are again placed on the wrong things. Obviously, they don't understand the Cleveland fan base. Brookpark is not Cleveland.

[@russellstewart5414]

This is so simple, if Haslem wants a new stadium, that’s great news . Let him pay every penny of the price himself. The people that support this team has paid an insane price to get this team back. And many people pay the sin tax and don’t support the team. He could manage the stadium on his own terms and rent it out for whatever event his company wants to. Just pay for it himself and collect all of the earnings or losses. That’s how businesses operate and some do better than others. Right now his football business sucks.

[@Treegulf]

Woop woopp!! Cleveland! Cleveland!! Give us a winning team!!! The haslam’s are terrible for the Brownies. They couldn’t get a winning team if it was handed to em

[@rdejohn3]

Politicians should support this for the REGION. This is the best option for all of Cleveland and suburbs. Politicians should have developed the lakefront 30 years ago! And could never get out of each others way! Cleveland has been all talk and ‘new plans’ for years! And just very little progress. Take this opportunity and totally redevelop that amazing natural resource - Lake Erie!!

[@Darkyahweh]

Move it to Brookpark, we deserve a better place for better shows. Tired of walking past drug addicts shooting up after a game... its insane.

[@MrVanWildest]

Just move it to London, or Oklahoma city. We need a fresh start.

[@muthe60]

The City of Cleveland should concentrate on something they already own ,,, Cleveland Hopkins Airport! It is literally ranked as one of the worst airports of its size in the entire country ( you can look it up ) ,,, The City did not fund the current stadium on their own, the entire state of Ohio, and every single person that ever stayed in a hotel room or bought a drink and some smokes paid taxes for that building - They want you to believe that the City of Cleveland is responsible for all of the good that happens in town, but everyone but the city is responsible for everything that doesn't go their way ,,, Look in the mirror city officials ,,, before you make your deemands for a business that is a Regional asset, not just the city's ,,,,

[@jordansantiago3929]

Downtown is ratchet

[@marcushall6821]

Clearly the city of Cleveland hasn't learned their lesson from the last time they went through this.

[@dubbity7043]

The factory of sadness continues.

[@Off-The-X]

Minneapolis here. I helped open US Bank Stadium (Security) in 2016. A 1 Billion $ TAX PAYER facility. The city decides who stays , who goes. Dont let big $ dictate. Your land. Not theirs!

[@OldBuzzardProduction]

Halsem has a right to ask for a dome stadium they been wanting it for years and Cleveland keeps telling them no, Cleveland is getting millions in Shoreway funds to slow down to 35mph which was 50mph - then if Jimmy wants to move to Brookpark he did warn you all he should be able to get funds from the state as well as out of pocket if Cleveland wants to keep the browns offer a roofed stadium on Burk lakefront Cleveland will have 356 days of possible events

[@LLA2008]

Has anyone said why the proposed and offered Burke airport site was rejected? The Feds said the city could have it as long as there was a alternate site available. I thought the CCA was suggested as the alternate site with some upgrades...

[@gse6458]

“ Fan Experience “ Exactly what is that? All I’ve ever known as a Browns fan is a lot of losing and disappointment. If that’s all The Haslams want then put a winner on the field and they can play in the parking lot.

[@RickyIcecubes]

No new stadium until the team begins producing a quality product.

[@stephaniechaffin1154]

They were just in the playoffs last year if you were paying attention. If it bothers you so much go root for someone else.

[@RickyIcecubes]

@@stephaniechaffin1154 They were in the playoffs because they had Flacco. Should've never let him go, it was the best season had by a Browns QB since Kosar.

[@RickyIcecubes]

@@stephaniechaffin1154 I'm not voting for a new stadium, and as of yesterday nobody I know is either.

[@colinmoeller]

@@RickyIcecubes Whose voting? Its called business.

[@nicotoscani1984]

Y'all worried about a stadium that is only in use 10 times a calendar year??????? That's not good business. If the city can't build a dome downtown than the team has to move. The team is moving 10 minutes away from Downtown and they'll still be in Cuyahoga county so everybody need to stop bitching and relax

[@terrific804]

Not with my tax money.

[@artemisnecrosis1094]

I feel it's time to close the factory of sadness and move. The current site is cursed.

[@scottmoore3113]

Corruption??? The Brown's current downtown stadium is practically brand new...It's actually newer than 3/4 of the rest of the NFL teams' current stadiums. How is the thought of building a new stadium even being considered? Corruption???

[@darinwilson7112]

Please, city officials are crazy be glad they did not move to Vegas like the Raiders did.

[@Rhude_tiller]

Can we win first?

[@duchampsrook]

Haslam greed. Period.

[@TaeSikCha]

A better fan experience would be a winning season. A new building wont make that happen lmao.

[@jeremyn277]

If they invest money into the Browns to counter the cap hit of Deshaun Watson’s contact…I’d back this too!

[@preemptive74]

I'm a bears fan and when I watch browns games I wish I had such a nice stadium. You ever been to soldier field?

[@MichaelMichele-kq9ov]

Ticket prices & NFL player salaries are an insane joke. who cares!

[@ttocs68]

The city can keep the stadium and Haslam can build his own. let us see who's last longer.

[@majik2hanz]

Build it in East Cleveland extend the Red Line transit from Windermere station and put it between E 152 St, Ivanhoe, Euclid and Coit Road. There's 162 acres that need a full redo. Then build their Jimmy & Dee's World on the 92 acre adjacent historic Nela Park Site (old General Electric HQ). Then annex East Cleveland into Cleveland. It would be close to Jimmy & Dee's Bratenahl mansion on the lake!

[@leeholztrager6463]

Call them the Brook Park Browns! F CLE!

[@terrific804]

Go anywhere you like. PAY YOUR OWN WAY. And when you go the cost of tearing down the stadium is on you!!!

[@ryand5725]

lol why would the Haslams have to pay to tear down a stadium they don’t own??

[@terrific804]

@@ryand5725lol...right...why would they ask for tax payer dollars to build another one?

[@ryand5725]

@@terrific804 if the city owns the land and the stadium, and the city wants to tell them they can’t leave the city, and the city wants to control where and what they build… the city should pony up and pay for a portion of a new stadium… 2 things though: 1) public private partnerships happen constantly. Why do we point to sports teams and throw a fit? Especially when the owner of the cavs is doing the same thing redeveloping the tower city district? It’s not a sports stadium but His company stands to benefit and it would come with over a billion dollars of Cleveland tax payer investment… or Kenect Cleveland? There were city entitlements provided for that privately owned market rate apartment building in the flats east bank area… where’s the outrage for that??? 2) the new stadium in Brookpark would rely on future revenue that would be created because of the new stadium. Meaning it’s not costing the city anything. The money they’d receive would come from new revenue streams created by the project and if they took state money it would be via the sale of bonds that the Haslams would then pay back through the stadium revenue…

[@Stthomasmlmg]

This is just a long term strategy from the Browns to move to London

[@spreadlovenotlies77]

How about winning

[@St33lRaiN]

After what ownership has done to the team and the front office who gives a shit we are about to enter another 10 year rebuild

[@222amJohn]

Browns suck. They shouldn't be allowed to play anywhere.

[@garypope6382]

Didn't Cleveland learn about the team out of the city with the Cavaliers?

[@URRidikalus]

There are better things to use our tax dollars on, then a bunch of useless politicians arguing over a complete dumpster fire of a "franchise".

[@d-rock100]

Brookpark is the best location for the stadium. Downtown was not built for a stadium where it is currently located. Parking is garbage and always has been. It is hell getting out of there on Sundays. There are only two ways the get to the stadium, west 3rd and east 9th. Thats it and foot traffic bottlenecks every time. It shouldn’t. Also what about those that are handicapped? The city hasn’t done anything about that. The city hasnt done anything to improve their lakefront. It’s all talk and no action. The people that run the city actually wanted to put an Amazon building where Burke is. Absolutely pathetic. I have an idea. Look at what Chicago did with their lakefront. Build your own navy pier Cleveland. Be smart. Furthermore, the stadium now is falling apart. It was a rush job from the start plus the team only plays there 8 times per year and is barely used in the offseason. I don’t blame the haslams for going to brookpark. I go to the games regularly and the fan experience is very important. It makes much more sense logically at brookpark. Plus sitting in rain and snow during a game? I am over that. So this is really Cleveland’s fault. Now the city council wants to fight it? Too late boys. You shot yourselves in the foot pretty good this time

[@aceiscool11]

How about “vision” for the team 🤦‍♂️

[@JuiceGuy07]

I've been to every home game since 2016. The stadium is fine. Is it as nice as the new stadium in Vegas or Jerry World? No, but we never asked for that. Could it use offseason upgrades like Dolan is doing at Progressive Field? Sure, I guess. I will never understand the obsession with needing something completely new, at least for the foreseeable future. Spend the next 10 years find and purchasing the perfect plot of land downtown and go for that. Brookpark seems to be rushed solution to a non-problem.

[@timzajac1965]

Thank for Amari. Sorry about Watson.

[@Mourndarkv]

No tax dollars for a stadium either way. The city had it's chance, they failed. Move it.

[@JamesCline-yy8pm]

I strongly believe that we need to move. We need to get the fuck out of Cleveland. It’s a hellhole. It’s a shit show and you got a park an hour away just to get to the fucking game most times and then you gotta pay a shit load of money to do so even when you park an hour away Like it’s ridiculous. We can’t even we don’t even have good team like we’ve never had a good team. The curse is real.

[@cory3357]

Chris Ronanye, we will give money for the stadium in one part of the county, but not for another city in the county lmao you really represent the county well huh

[@zcvxs]

Gotta win games, and gotta sell tickets to get a new stadium

[@erich84502ify]

Where's Lebron when you need him?

[@MrRobrice1]

I've been there. It's hard to get to and not very nice. When the lease is up there really isn't anything the city can do if they are in the same market. Better get used to the idea.

[@chazdeutsch2072]

There is nothing wrong with the stadium we have what is wrong with people.

[@j10betty]

They should have built a dome stadium on the lake to begin with. Would have made it a thousand times more practical then they could have hosted more events all year round. The owners should pay 100% for a new arena. By the design, it looks to have twice the seats. Which means alot more money to be made. The assholes will make their money back on the investment of the build.

[@jordanwheeler6678]

@@j10betty we was talking about that at the Barber shop my pops said this

[@LIL-MAN_theOG]

Having the stadium downtown and without a dome is dumb...having it off the lake is dumb, and not being able to use it than for 8 games and 2 concerts a year is a misspend of taxpayer money like that stupid medical mart convention center the idiot city hall and county pitched us on thats NOT even used for that purpose

[@caseycieslikowski2929]

lol they don’t own the team? WTF not their choice.

[@tygur23]

Then give Haslem the the Airport land then

[@acatguy23]

0:39 so many open seats at the game 🤔

[@pizzamahn1208]

Businesses can go anywhere they want. It’s just in these people’s benefits for the browns to be here

[@StillFunkyB]

I thought there were legal protections put in place to prevent this from happening ever again.

[@jordanwheeler6678]

@@StillFunkyB if they left the State if I remember correctly their not really moving out of state just one of Cleveland Suburbs

[@ronpeacock9939]

Cleveland historically has had one of the best fan experiences.. until the Browns abandoned Cleveland.... Since the new Browns.. the fan experience as sucked simply because the team has been horrid... maybe if they actually could win games.. it' be different. They should never have allowed the NFL to talk them into the Ravens.. Cleveland had all the cards. You don't want expansion.. NFL expansion might as well be a college team.. except I think Ohio State could have beat the current browns many years. Cleveland, get the state on your side.. if the state won't give funds... a move even to just outside the city won't happen. Where I grew up, a team tried it but found the law prevented the state from aiding any entity (sports team, manufacturer...etc) any incentive to move from one place (in state) to another... they can poach from other states.. but cities within cannot poach from sister cities..

[@Rake-em1xj]

We DON'T WANT A DOME!... Cleveland is snow and ice. It's an advantage and makes it a tuff place to win!

[@poisedforduty]

"makes it a tuff place to win" especially for the Browns 😉

[@nicotoscani1984]

I hope you're being a troll with that statement because if you're being serious, dude, you need serious help

[@ultraunique3476]

That so called advantage damn sure never benefited the clowns aka the browns😂. Let it go time for new things

[@jordanwheeler6678]

@@ultraunique3476 I’ve been a browns fan for years and I agree do you know how embarrassed I get when someone says that

[@mrbear716]

Well, you can always travel the 90 north to Orchard Park where the new Bills stadium is being built without a dome, and will have real grass on the field. 😂🤷🏾

[@SWORDofGOD]

I hope they leave Ohio, and teach the city a lesson.

[@andromedaspark2241]

The lesson would be that Ohio doesn't need the Browns. They're a terrible team. I feel bad for the good players stuck there. A lot more can be done with the waterfront than a failed team. They can go.

[@ATF1985]

Nothing Cleveland can do 😂

[@zvzsun8555]

I guess Jimmy wants to put himself in the same category as Art.

[@Chris-em4fl]

Relocate

[@steveralston8837]

It's only a few miles away. Who cares?

[@Bettorlnformed]

They should rename it after Mr Watson!

[@boblewkowski3626]

They can make like Ray Charles and hit the road Jack

[@mikescarlett3186]

Strong talk. Might strong talk.😸🙀😸