Cleveland Indians GO WOKE & Change Their Name

[@BestnameIcanThinkof89]

“Don’t worry Indian tribes. We don’t want to offend any of you, so we will never acknowledge your existence again.”

[@hrshy491777]

Exactly in the name of progress!

[@Leo_Pard_A4]

Excellent

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

Exclusion = racist Inclusion = racist

[@JangoMike]

They should have named it after a tribe or maybe a mythical native person/spirit/animal.....if. they were dead set on changing it (they should have left it alone regardless)

[@k-ozdragon]

@@meghaarun4991 Why are people from India referred to as "Asian"? Maybe names cover more than just one thing. For proof, there's a great book with an odd title of "Thesaurus" that I highly recommend. And before you try to give me a geography lesson in response to a point about language, I'll just point out that technically there is no continent of Asia.

[@ralphbilby2936]

The funny thing is that the Native Americans were not offended by the names. But the left were

[@iusedtoliveinmymothergary9827]

White girls of European descent.

[@shermanngjazz]

More like rich entitled well-fed white leftists

[@iusedtoliveinmymothergary9827]

@@shermanngjazz That is the truth.

[@michaelg4089]

@@shermanngjazz. The Browns are next!!! How dare they appropriate the skin color of poor, oppressed minorities! That’s RAYCISSSS!!!

[@blaumausfrau]

I used to be a Stanford Indian fan and I thought the same thing I don’t think the Native Americans were upset at all by the name the Stanford Indians I mean I’m dating myself because I think they changed the name 25 years ago or something... maybe more but yeah it’s always these white guys who cause all the problems they change the names. I don’t think the Cleveland Indians offended anybody. But the bottom line is I’m completely anti-major-league baseball and have been for about 25 yearsI HATE THE MLB NOW

[@phyxia7985]

"Cleveland Idiots" is a much better name.

[@destinytroll1374]

👏👏👏

[@danielj1642]

lol this made me chuckle.

[@cxa340]

Cleveland Idiots is how we feel as fans - we supported this team for 73 years of losing seasons and now we will never see the Indians win a World Series - had I known I would never have spent my childhood at old municipal

[@barryosbourne2581]

Cleveland Snowflakes

[@machumak4915]

👀🤣🤣🤣🙌🏾

[@Niko-oi6hl]

I like how things only offend people they shouldn’t offend, people just get offended for others that don’t care or could give less of a shit about it

[@kennyc388]

Absolutely Correct !!!

[@ericgallagan946]

As my mom said, “The Guardians? Sounds like a babysitting service”.

[@sweetcheeks89]

🤣🤣🤣

[@danarias1289]

It sounds like a CRT club for woke women.

[@wilstrang7639]

It's for the large "guardian" statues on the bridge over the stadium. Actually kinda cool

[@RustyCar]

Well, ‘when the shoe fits’….you know the rest.

[@shaeharper5652]

Also sounds like video game characters

[@richarda7418]

People getting offended on behalf of people that do not feel offended. Pfft.

[@user-hg9ep3de8p]

😂😂😂😂 Trust me

[@donniepatt9514]

I never understood that. The people offended FOR someone else are almost always WAY more offended than the people they THINK are offended

[@user-hg9ep3de8p]

@@donniepatt9514 The lust and desperation for feeling important g, that’s all it is

[@f1hotrod527]

That is definitely true about the left. Their being offended for someone usually results in destroying the lives of those they are offended for. In this case though, do we really know if Native American communities are offended? Maybe they are. If they are, I think it is their decision to stop the use. I personally have no idea what the actual stance is on the issue by Native Americans. Could go either way, they could see it with pride, or they could see it as mocking them and the past. Does anyone know if the various native american nations have a structure where they get together, meeting of the community leaders etc? If they did, it would be nice to see if they would come to a consensus on the issue.

[@alswann2702]

They get woke, I get rope.

[@Zenlar1597]

As an Indian from Oklahoma, I can confirm that the Clevland Jews would be awesome.

[@j3a3k3e5]

So your from India and Oklahoma? Or your a Native American from Oklahoma.

[@MrMike3134]

Native Americans and anyone offended by the baseball name, grow a spine you weak spirit.

[@hant679]

@@j3a3k3e5 many Native Americans still prefer Indian. My tribe prefers American Indian, for example. I grew up calling myself and my tribe Indians. Didn't even know people had issues with this until social media told me I ought to be offended 😂

[@mirandusings]

@@hant679 same experience with me and the word “oriental”. Apparently I can’t call myself that or I’m an Asian white supremecist lol

[@donalduncleusa6552]

@@hant679 they've even problem with the word Indian?

[@osmanyousif7849]

"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered." 1984, George Orwell

[@KiffTX]

@Grimoire don’t lie. That’s one of the most important parts of the book. You didn’t read the book.

[@KiffTX]

@Grimoire if it’s one of your favorites, you’d know it isn’t to be used as an American warning. It’s a love letter to utilitarianism

[@ianbarbus9676]

Oh no, we’re behind schedule!!

[@gd8374]

You should see children’s history books

[@KiffTX]

@@gd8374 which ones?

[@lukeelder4915]

The guardians is offensive to people who's kids are in foster care lol

[@stewartj3407]

That’s a good one.

[@seeker7702]

😹😹😹😹😹

[@myblacklab7]

It actually is a very charged word to go with - family court can be very ugly, and elder abuse is common. They managed to use one of the more triggering words I could think of that wouldn't be immediately banned, not to mention the authoritarian implications of appointing oneself "guardians" over a city. I'm surprised they didn't name themselves: "The CPS Inspectors."

[@someoldguy5316]

It’s offensive to anyone who is from an ocean monument. (This was a really terrible joke I know)

[@seeker7702]

@@someoldguy5316 hahaha.. Is this your Humor 👉 💩💩💩?.. I found it in trash bin

[@EatMorePizzaNow]

Tom Hanks is so American that he moved to Greece. Screw professional sports. Screw the entire elite entertainment industry.

[@ioannisdenton]

As a greek , we do not want him, take woke hanks back. Lol. (he is a nice guy though)

[@johndena2882]

Quit watching a few years, don't miss it at all

[@mera8785]

Well he was participating in the great American elite pastime of abusing kids and when things started to heat up he escaped to a country that has decriminalized those actions. He perfectly represents Hollywood.

[@burntpoet4376]

Never thought I’d see the day.

[@chrisknoblock]

That entire commercial was so cringe.

[@JessiBear]

Cleveland Snowflakes would be a better name

[@justfornow9354]

Awesome 👍😎

[@donniepatt9514]

Much more suitable name

[@monkeygraborange]

Seriously. That stupid Hanks ad set a new level in hyperbole.

[@runplatypus]

Perfect 👍🏽

[@diegoviniciomejiaquesada4754]

It even sounds catchy!!! Nice Jessica!

[@tadget0566]

I always thought naming them after native Americans was actually honouring them as a brave warrior race 🤔

[@nativewarrior4802]

@Trinity M lol whatcha know Bout Natives?

[@DaveS859]

@Trinity M yeah , just like Northerners are horribly offended by the name of the New York Yankees, right ? Grow a pair

[@TheCosmic20Quiz]

@Trinity M haha what a load of Chicago Bull

[@Darth_Uchiha47]

@Trinity M right at the beginning of the video he says a poll was done and 90% said they were not offended. Literally im not even a minute in.

[@alaskannative11]

@Trinity M You don't speak for all native americans. Most of us love to quietly watch all the drama happening in the US while sitting on the sidelines... eating popcorn and drinking R&R 😜

[@V0ltron]

Did you know, it's easier to come back from a Nuclear strike, than to come back from Democratic rule? Just look at Hiroshima then look at Detroit. Or Baltimore. Or Chicago.

[@mr.awesome6011]

Bruh

[@thebuddah1253]

Damn...

[@shermanngjazz]

Damn right Japan doesn't fuck around!

[@alonewanderer8538]

Hmmm, you're right,dude.

[@joef5416]

Or Cleveland

[@havok6280]

"The Jews beat the Saints..." Well played, sir...

[@tiqva01]

Lions 8 Christians 0

[@aclark903]

With spiky objects?

[@ajb.822]

Well... we've been going through the book of Acts in Church lately, and the Apostle Paul was beaten by the angry Jews a lot ...

[@BobaFett12357]

@@tiqva01 Man of culture, Ancient Rome reference!

[@LuciferTheDogKiller]

I don't get it.

[@toadamine]

You need to make a "New York Jew's" shirt that looks like a Mets team shirt for your merch store... 😂😁👍

[@GeneralZod99]

Why would they call themselves the Jew's? The existing teams aren't the Yankee's or the Met's.

[@blue_ranger]

New York Jets is just a simple photoshop copyright infringement away.

[@sorryforthings72]

I would buy two!

[@GeneralZod99]

@Chris Topher I too am a fan of alliteration.

[@Jagnole101]

NYC is known as JYC…and the NYT is the JYT, so I think it would be funny. Jews have a good sense of humor about things

[@TheMissingLink2]

As the only actual fan in the comment section here, the people of Cleveland ARE NOT happy about the name change. Nor did we want it.

[@beeftwinkie2198]

You aren't the only one. And I agree

[@beeftwinkie2198]

@John Doe you can still wear indians gear but no headdress or face paint..I guess that is too much cultural appropriation ..I'm still seeing indians billboards and gear all over the city...guess it might take em awhile to get rid of all of it ..if they can

[@Noname-qe3fg]

As a native I think it was the right thing to do, indiginous people are NOT your masscot

[@madeinamerica7792]

@@Noname-qe3fg the first Native American baseball player played for Cleveland. He was glad to be honored. It’s not a mascot and it’s not about you.

[@mathergeorge8576]

"Indian" is a racial slur native people are not from India

[@jasoncarby4780]

If 90% of polled people didnt have a problem with " Indians" , why is their choice not being allowed ?

[@hant679]

Because they don't care what actual natives think - they did it to placate the woke white liberals. It certainly wasn't for natives.

[@thecaynuck4694]

The "survey" was a flawed survey and only covers a specific community. Actually, quite a few Indigenous People who know about their history (not Native Americans, correct term is Indigenous Peoples) hated the name and as someone who is part Indigenous, I hate the name Indians because it is misleading. It's a name some racist colonizer made when he landed in the Americas thinking he was in India.

[@thecaynuck4694]

@@hant679 Actually, quite a few Indigenous People (not Native Americans, correct term is Indigenous Peoples) were offended and as someone who is part Indigenous, I hate the name Indians because it is misleading. It's a name some racist colonizer made when he landed in the Americas thinking he was in India.

[@hant679]

@@thecaynuck4694 I didn't say all; I said many, including my own tribe. And indigenous just simply refers to place of origin and is the most vague term available. Everyone is indigenous to somewhere - Africans to Africa, Asians to Asia, Europeans to Europe, etc. I dislike using it because it is so basic and vague.

[@hant679]

You are free to use whatever term you like, just as I and my tribe are free to use whatever term we like.

[@DeVandrare]

Next thing you know they’ll be blurring “Indians” on the uniforms in all the old highlight reels from the distant past.

[@alexdelarge703]

Loading up Adobe Premiere as we speak.

[@simonhimself1]

The ministry of truth will make sure of that :(

[@DinnerBells]

Or just burn all the footage.

[@avlisk]

Reminds me of Brave New World, 1984, and the Communist Soviet Union. Changing history. And when you change history. . .well, we know the rest.

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

I think the best part is that they announced the name change from the Cleveland Indians Twitter account

[@menthols4625]

"We are loyal, proud and resilient" -- Changes name, showing lack of loyalty, pride and resilience.

[@mrshmuga9]

“proud, loyal, and resilient” *caves to non-fans on Twitter instantly*

[@havok6280]

I felt like that was a subtle jab at Lebron...

[@samsquanch4201]

I’m from Cleveland and i can tell you that no one here likes this name change 🤮

[@artpekarekiii4320]

I'm from St Louis Missouri, and no one here likes this name change either.

[@rickdeckardbladerunner2049]

I'm from Washington DC and everyone here loves the commanders. I think it's ridiculous. Washington DC is very woke.

[@testaccounting865]

Where can i buy 'Indians' gear. I want the logo with the Indian on the jersey and hat NOW!!

[@davidaltman8831]

@@testaccounting865 check at a mall still saw some indians hats at a store that sells sports shrits and hats

[@dustydustydusty]

Out of all the problems Cleveland has. This is their solution.

[@hant679]

Why do something when nothing will do?

[@strechinpick]

The Cleveland Steamers

[@shermanngjazz]

Or the Tribe would've worked

[@herbsuperb6034]

Steamers are from New York.

[@nathanielstringer6382]

LMFAO!

[@Juan0481]

They should move to Cincinnati and be called the Cincinnati Steamers.

[@philipramsden4975]

That would be better that the crap name they came up with

[@k-ozdragon]

Just imagine how offensive it would be to call a team "Vikings" & have their mascot be a blonde guy in braids with an utterly ahistorical helmet with horns. Yes, just imagine if that existed....

[@michaelrodriguez9685]

True

[@jackfarrell4727]

Ha ha ha ha ha

[@Chuck1Norris]

I’m Norwegian and the thought of ever being offended at such a thing sounds so stupid. Probably going to be the next thing they change. 😒

[@adamd9424]

I’m a Vikings fan and I have heard that joke so many times. It scares me that people could actually change it.

[@flyinglegion5697]

Exactly, but let's think of one even worse, a typical Jew caricature of Ben Shapiro as the logo for a team called LARP Yisrael, that's basically how offensive and racist Cleveland Indians logo is, sure, Shapiro would try to have me cancelled, but I could just call him a hypocrite and leftist 😂. And also I've seen really offensive caricatures of blonde people with goofy teeth and MAGA hats, lol.

[@kristenisreal]

They’re going to now playback old sports reels with the word “Indians” on their shirts blurred out.

[@michaelvonwolvenhause7863]

I pray to God that that is not truly happening...

[@kristenisreal]

@@michaelvonwolvenhause7863 I’m with you there, hah.

[@polinco737]

Rest in piece, Chief Wahoo... Forever loved, Forever remembered, Forever missed.

[@ryanbeet2221]

your god damn right

[@PittsburghMarky]

#KeeptheChief End trying to find hate where it doesn't exist.

[@charlesderosas5577]

"New York jews". Ben, you hit another homerun 😆.

[@my3dviews]

Go Jews. LOL

[@charlesderosas5577]

@@my3dviews what's next? "The San Francisco Lefties"? 😆

[@thebenalvarez]

Brooklyn Maccabees = Brooklyn Macs

[@charlesderosas5577]

@@thebenalvarez or the "Chicago warzones".

[@matdaddy2736]

"Just a bit outside.." ~ Bob Ueker, probably.

[@derekmartinko134]

The Guardians. Protectors of whiny liberals’ feelings. Stopped watching sports years ago thankfully and will never go back

[@mrkroeger]

I'm with you

[@brandonnorman6749]

Quit watching sports 13 plus years ago good for you

[@thrillofbattle3801]

#YearsAgo

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

What exactly is Cleveland the guardian of? Crime? Cleveland is the Detroit of Ohio, a true shithole

[@dillonc7955]

I'll fall asleep to the NBA whenever my family watches it. I'd rather be playing than watching.

[@Wyserbytheday]

I'm sure many American Indians are deeply disappointed by this decision.

[@stikupartist3698]

Only the white ones with 1% native ancestry.

[@cranberrysalsa3558]

All you have to do is look at all of their past logos, and you will completely understand why they distanced themselves from the name Indians, because it’s so blatantly racist no matter what you say or think.

[@PittsburghMarky]

@@cranberrysalsa3558 Yes. Because smiling is so horrible.

[@cranberrysalsa3558]

@@PittsburghMarky no it’s the stereotypical and blatantly racist skin color they used in the logo

[@PittsburghMarky]

@@cranberrysalsa3558 Please

[@shiniquajones2812]

As a guardian I’m offended and this name needs to be changed

[@mikes8079]

Full native here and an enrolled member of a federally recognized tribe; myself and many other enrolled tribal members do not appreciate the use of native mascots in any mainstream platform. The issue is less so about whether it is offensive but more so about the extent of the harm it does to tribal nations. Ask enrolled tribal members about this issue. Don’t ask anyone who says “my great great grandmother was a Cherokee princess” or people who claim native descent after taking a DNA test or people who visited Ancestry.com. Elephant in the room: There are nearly 600 tribes recognized by the federal government. Did you ask all of them about this issue? Food for thought.

[@shiniquajones2812]

@@mikes8079 there are wusses and cry babies in every race and culture you sir are evidence of that.

[@mikes8079]

@@shiniquajones2812 your side’s anti vaxx Karen’s of the world are depicted/exposed to the world hourly whining about how the govt is controlling your life. Please, the IRS is so much further up yours than a needle is

[@shiniquajones2812]

@@mikes8079 the people who don’t want to get vaxed just don’t get vaxed it’s the Karens trying to convince everyone else to get vaxed.

[@mikes8079]

@@shiniquajones2812 - Your anti vaxx Karens really make y’all look bad honestly.

[@D3R3LICTRECORDS]

I already boycotted MLB last year when they superimposed "BLM" on the pitcher's mound. Baseball (and anything else that goes woke) is dead to me.

[@twally4966]

Amen dude

[@thegreatcanadianlumberjack5307]

The NBA has that stuff plastered all over the place. It's annoying when Sports are supposed to be a way of uniting a team and people together for a friendly competition are divided by Political agenda

[@kasdcomoa5567]

I just watch UFC and chess now lol

[@TrumpSucksMyDick]

Nobody cares

[@travfromthelou]

I've been playing MLB the show 21. Still having fun with the game. So many players from my child hood. I don't watch games. Or go to games but I like baseball. But this is fucking stupid. And cringe. Btw. There are supposed guardians outside of the stadium. That's why they are calling it the guardians. I'm gonna go watch major league.

[@13StJimmy]

“The New York Jews beat the New Orleans Saints sounds great” Until the Saints beat the Jews and get accused of anti Semitism 😂

[@safiyakhan8473]

Exactlyyyy

[@wonderboy75]

How is that even remotely similar? Is it offensive to Jews to be called Jews?

[@ianbarbus9676]

Finally some INTELLIGENT humor! Thanks for that

[@ianbarbus9676]

@@wonderboy75 Exactly! Which is why, in this segment, Ben Shapiro is acting like a complete twit

[@beeftwinkie2198]

Ha!.. that's funny man😂

[@artpekarekiii4320]

This team will always be the Indians. I was raised from childhood to believe that baseball is the American past-time. I was raised to believe that we can come together and have a good time - everyone. Baseball is not about hate or being disrespectful. Long live the Cleveland Indians!

[@norad_clips]

As someone with more Native American heritage than Elizabeth Warren, I’m not offended.

[@whitneyfry3236]

Same lol

[@mariomolinari5]

Uwu

[@noname2490]

They don't care if you aren't offended. Others are off for you and we must now down before there mighty stupidity

[@lolatyou]

Just to be clear. You should be offended by Elizabeth Warren. lol

[@TheMissingLink2]

That's not a hard bar to pass....

[@Bozar069]

Theres a large Polish population in Cleveland and we would be totally cool with the Cleveland Polacks.

[@cxa340]

I could stomach our 73 years of losing seasons so much better with that name

[@Hippo_Hegemony]

Cleveland Hussars

[@leszekwiniarski5489]

Cleveland Husaria

[@katmandu66]

Oh, wow. So a group of white people who have not been historically marginalized in the United States and weren't slaughtered by colonists are okay with their likeness being used? We're making progress here, guys. Keep it up.

[@noahb9596]

Also a lot of Hungarians, Cleveland Magyars? Good name?

[@billthebutcher1910]

You hear Tom Hanks say “We are loyal” while stepping away from their own roots under the pressure from the ignorant. Now, coming from an actor, that’s hilariously ironic.

[@devilgames2217]

The jokes write themselves.

[@billthebutcher1910]

@@devilgames2217 indeed haha

[@flaviusjconstantius]

So loyal they change a name that has stood for over 100 years😂. It’s laughable how stupid people have to be to not pick up on these things.

[@matthewbrown2310]

Didn't tom hanks also say "there's no crying in baseball" yet all you see is people crying about sport teams

[@Zoydian]

Hanks will say whatever his masters will pay him to say, that's all.

[@salvadorricardojimenez5401]

Doesn't the gradual removal of America's indigenous past actually imply underlying prejudice against those people?

[@THE-HammerMan]

Good point.

[@bobbybushwhacker]

Yep

[@Fazedndazed]

True, they’re talking about “go woke” but they don’t realize that the original name honored an indigenous Indian!😭

[@Fazedndazed]

True, they’re talking about “go woke” but they don’t realize that the original name honored an indigenous Indian!😭

[@michaelmcdaniel3596]

“Guardian” Sounds like something made of rubber you can purchase from a truck stop restroom vending machine.

[@rickmartin2168]

On the streets of San Francisco latex is essential. 😆

[@fancy39]

🤣🤣🤣

[@edwardgaines6561]

Lounge Lizard not included. 💋 🦎

[@rudigereichler4112]

Sounds like a worthless left propaganda outlet to me

[@ramongonzalez2112]

Guardian Angels? LA should sue them.😆...Public Guardian of the city Cleveland. What’s it mean?😂

[@demolitionman5003]

I'm Cherokee and I'm not offended and it's like they want to erase us totally now if you ask me. :(

[@PenNamed]

This is what was on my mind. The name never seemed to me as insulting, but rather endearing. It's like they want to pretend native Americans don't exist anymore. What did the natives do to anger the left!?

[@salzerilli4789]

You don't hear them crying about the Fighting Irish.

[@WERob-to5sp]

Communists need to erase history & tradition. It makes it easier to control people & claim that the Party created everything.

[@hant679]

I am Oneida and that is what I have been saying. Everything Native is slowly being scrubbed from the culture.

[@demolitionman5003]

@@hant679 Me too and that scares me. I'm proud of my heritage but I'm afraid that they're going to erase any memory of us.

[@jonathanturner4220]

“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.” ― George Orwell, 1984

[@javierluz7569]

Damn bro you’re so deep🙄

[@Niemand1947]

@@seanglaze7284 Correct. And later, as a mature leftist believing in democracy and freedom he wrote 1984 as a warning that Totalitarianism in any form is slavery.

[@myblacklab7]

@@javierluz7569 If you read and understand 1984, maybe you'll understand why the quote is so apropos to what the woke and their corporate sponsors are doing to our society. I suggest you read it, because "1984" is largely becoming the reality of 2021.

[@javierluz7569]

@@myblacklab7 yea I’ve read it but I’ve also read Animal Farm, books about MLK, Malcolm X, Corky Gonzales, the Black Panther party, American Indian Movement, the Chicano movement and it’s ridiculous to right wingers say that tyranny is coming because tyranny has already happened to my black and brown people

[@myblacklab7]

@@javierluz7569 Then you should understand how "your" people have been gaslit and brainwashed, and not let it happen again. Also, people of every color have been tyrannized, and are being tyrannized - which color is being tyrannized just depends on the era and the geographical location. In any case, at a time when black and brown people enjoy unprecedented rights and freedoms in America, wouldn't it be especially crappy if now is the time when *everyone* is made a slave to the corporate state? We can't undo the past, but we can make a difference to the future.

[@webbzilla8581]

I quit being a fan of Cleveland baseball the day this happened 😰

[@jaden63830]

Coming from a die hard Indians fan, they will forever the the TRIBE !!!!

[@rickh5088]

Wondering what they will push as the replacement for "Tribe". What is a group of "guardians"? A gaggle? A flock of guardians? A swarm? That makes it sound slightly less lame. A swarm of guardians. I'm going with that until I hear something less dumb. (No offense to them at all, just highlighting another aspect of this stupidity.)

[@austinpierce8372]

Same here from cleveland. Never watching again until they change it back. At least we got the browns

[@michaelkniatt7056]

A galaxy of Guardians

[@rickh5088]

@@michaelkniatt7056 Oh that's pretty good too lol. Now I am torn. I am just wondering if saying "I am part of the galaxy" might lose something over being part of the Tribe or Swarm. Man, tough decisions lmao.

[@joef5416]

@Schrodinger's Snuffleupagus with this ownership, they won't win anything.

[@dwaynerider8295]

Once AGAIN, Cleveland proves why ALL the trees in Cincinnati lean north.....

[@HM-pw8it]

What does that mean?

[@24k-n6x]

@@HM-pw8it probably means that the south is "blowing"...

[@Dixon_Deep]

The smell is my guess.

[@kenh.5903]

Cleveland is north of Cincinnati you morons

[@austenmoon3526]

The true moron is the person that calls somebody a moron for something they blatantly did not know

[@stefanl3299]

Going back to "Cleveland Spiders" would have been a better name change than "Cleveland Guardians."

[@beau-jacksonfrank3160]

That would be an awesome name!

[@nineofspades4701]

Ikr, the jersey and hat designs could be pretty sick

[@joserbordasmd]

It’s just that Cleveland doesn’t want to remember when the Spiders lost 120+ games.

[@richardkammerer2814]

Unfortunately, all the good colors for spiders are prohibited.

[@mjef3695]

@@richardkammerer2814 Made me ☺️. 😊. 😏. 😆😆😆😆

[@michaelbarclay5016]

The most offensive name in history has to be “Fighting Irish” implying a drunken brawls.

[@alexgreen1823]

I'm Irish and I love that

[@sam-ke1zt]

Are you even Irish?

[@ianbarbus9676]

The Fighting Irish nickname was first coined for the Irish immigrant soldiers who fought for the Union during the Civil War That’s why they’re not called the Drunken Irish

[@ZombieCorp999]

"We hold tight to our roots" as we rip them from the ground.

[@JoeyArmstrong2800]

Oh the irony..

[@thepeas]

The term "Indian," in reference to the original inhabitants of the American continent, is said to derive from Christopher Columbus, a 15th century boat-person. Some say he used the term because he was convinced he had arrived in "the Indies" (Asia), his intended destination.

[@CatholicTraditional]

@@thepeas Yes, this is true. He thought he got to India, as was his intended destination.

[@thepeas]

@@CatholicTraditional i know, i was pointing out the idiocy in americans still referring to the native people as indians because India is an extra 16000 miles away..

[@OnChords]

1. Calling someone indian because columbus mixed up the country, 2. Getting them killed, steal the country... 3. Call a Baseball Team "Indians" 4. You are now respectfully holding tight to "your" roots. Ok.

[@XxMeatShakexX]

Being offended at a race's existence, sounds about right.

[@wildbill4496]

Yep, the most racist people on the planet call themselves democrats

[@TrumpSucksMyDick]

@@wildbill4496 The most racist people I've ever met are republicans. Liar.

[@zdvxr]

@@wildbill4496 the are the ones caring about what others do and say but they’re meant to be fighting for freedom of speech

[@wildbill4496]

@@TrumpSucksMyDick Democrats treat black people like they are bumbling idiots who can't do anything for themselves and need their white overlords ( white Democrat politicians) to save them and do everything for them, including cloth, feed and house them. To white Democrats black people could not survive without the help of their white Dem overlords. That is how white Democrats treat black people, looking down on them as helpless pets and you think Republicans are more racist? LOL

[@Hahaa99]

@@wildbill4496 Couldn’t have summarised it any better

[@window9213]

Literally everyone in Ohio didn't ask for this. We wanted it to stay indians.

[@edwardgaines6561]

Ohioans didn't ask for Biden to win either...and maybe Dewine as well.

[@window9213]

@@edwardgaines6561 Eh Dewine isnt that bad, not as bad as biden at least.

[@witchcraftwill7576]

Yup

[@pasofino2199]

@@edwardgaines6561 they didn’t all ask for trump either

[@awakentotruthmichaelsmith4698]

So sad, I’m an Ohioan, from Cincinnati but lived in Cleveland 6 years. I had season tickets for a while, they were like my adopted team. I will never support them in any way again

[@mr.s9783]

I'm not even into sports, but Chief Wahoo was always one of my favorite mascots. He's just a happy Indian guy with a cheeky grin. He seems like a fun guy. Just like Aunt Jemima.

[@beeftwinkie2198]

The team was named to honor a great baseball player.. Louis Sockalexis..before then the cleveland team was called the Spiders.check it out before the history is deleted

[@MICHAEL_MAY_8]

@@beeftwinkie2198 its already deleted chief...I mean bro.

[@teresehenry9643]

You hit the nail on the head because both are so called Black people today. American Indian checking in like my ancestors and Martin Luther King who submitted the Indian Bill of Rights and Indian Civil Rights Act and when it passed a week after his assassination American Indians were present and they looked like so called African American grandpa's and grandmother. Im so proud to be able to do what my grandparents couldn't for fear of being killed when Walter Pleckerd and Alexander Spotchwood came on the scene and that's claim my heritage aloud. Cherokee, Creek, Blackfoot Blackbird signing off.

[@captainronpants]

I’m from Utah, for now. I’m sure someone will find it offensive that the state is named after the Ute tribe and the entire state will be changed.

[@lolatyou]

If it wasn’t on their radar it may be now… shhhh stop giving the silly children ideas.

[@meadster308]

The word, Oklahoma, means land of the red man. The word comes from the Chickasaw tribe.

[@edwardgaines6561]

Might as well. Obama changed Mt McKinley, so why not Utah?

[@keithhoss4990]

Most of the states in the US are from the tribes

[@RantingRamsay]

Well, there goes Mississippi, Milwaukee, Illinois, Alaska, Alabama, Iowa... and a crap-ton of other places: All directly named after or names inspired by Native American tribes or words from their languages....

[@gregc.4117]

I’m waiting for a girls soccer team (both biological and non-biological “women”) to be named the “Karen’s”.

[@JohnDoe-ff2fc]

That would be ethnic appropriation. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_people

[@finallythere100]

Oh no, that would be too "white". But at least it has some killer edge to it, unlike the goodie guardians.

[@PANZERFAUST90]

the Karen's what

[@johncollins8304]

II have a name for 'non - biological women': failed men.

[@michaelvonwolvenhause7863]

The American white ladies going to spam this comment...

[@BrettMKW]

I was hoping they'd pick Cleveland Baseball Team.

[@Jekyll08]

😂

[@shermanngjazz]

Yeah better than this generic uninspiring "Guardians" name.

[@darrengordon-hill]

I'M OUTRAGED THEY DIDN'T

[@brinsonharris9816]

Me too. The logo should change to a puckered sphincter.

[@buttfart7123]

Or the Cleveland Bowel Movements

[@kempnolan7761]

I grew up going to Indians games with my uncle and grandpa. I will never forget the strike season when they had the best team in the American League & freezing while watching the World Series Games against Atlanta. I will hang on to all of my Indians memories and memorabilia, they will always be the Indians to me.

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

Sports in general, are unwatchable because of politics.

[@joetamburello6292]

Yup that’s why their ratings have plummeted to record lows

[@ScottCleve33]

I no longer watch any sports. Politics is only part of it though. I mean what have they done to baseball? My wife and I went to a bar for dinner earlier this year and the Indians were playing. After blowing a 9th inning lead it went to extra innings. Next thing I knew they had a runner at second base in the 10th inning. I was trying to figure out what happened. They had just returned from a commercial. Then I realized that they had implemented that stupid "runner starts extra inning at second" rule. This is not only not the team I grew up with but also not the sport I grew up with.

[@gatewaysolo104]

Ncaa football isn't as bad yet. It's only a matter of time though.

[@ScottCleve33]

@@gatewaysolo104 True. I do watch the Buckeye's. Hopefully nobody comes along and suggests it's insensitive to someone. NCAA football does seem to have a tighter grip on it's players where they can tell them not to do stuff but all it takes is just that one head coach or one university that will tell them it's OK and the floodgates will be opened. Surprising though considering how liberal universities are.

[@NJLev]

I watch MMA exclusively now.

[@DT-5150]

The Cleveland No Balls seems to be fitting.

[@lancelittrell369]

Yep...Cleveland definitely "struck out" with their new name👍

[@thedeadman8361]

The Cleveland Douche-bags would be another good option.

[@myblacklab7]

Or "The Cleveland Eunuchs"

[@gregb6469]

Cleveland Jelly-Spines would be more accurate.

[@christianbolt5761]

You wouldn’t name your team after something you thought sucked

[@AleksAvramJeff]

Why did you have to be a spoilsport and use logic?

[@NewHaven203]

Offensive things for cringy millenials of this generation: “Washington Redskins”, “Cleveland Indians”, Confederate flags, confederate statues, Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben, old Mississippi state flag

[@IIIUMlNATI]

Larry Elder for California Governor! Spread the word everywhere, especially cali residents!

[@Jbb6782]

Word up. Elder for Prez.

[@crappy60]

Check out Jeff Hewitt as well!

[@mh-do3pe]

I sure could use a bumper sticker or something

[@KurtM1966]

Larry Elder for governor then president. P.s. I am a white man(i said this b4 the left says it,and im into recovery,and deeply inspired by Larry Elder and Thomas Sowell, since changing my ways) GOD bless Ben,Larry and Thomas.

[@mogwaisales]

@@Tomnest one very basic point is that California has very high taxes and little to show for it. The taxes go up but the quality of life goes down. I'm my opinion Larry sees problems that can be fixed with relative ease and he is the leader that would care enough to do so.

[@michaelrusso6822]

I'd like to see a new poll of Native Americans... "Are you offended that Cleveland changed their "Indians" nickname?". I'll bet that more are now offended than before.

[@Ether-pb5gb]

amen

[@randomhiphop5055]

Idk our local reservation was formally complaining about our school using any imagery instead of just changing the red logo and red raiders name. Sucks cuz the native imagery would be cool and they altered the logo already.

[@sethlivingstone1999]

Redskins fan here, I feel your pain Indians fans.

[@ledzeppelin1212]

You're still a Redskins fan?

[@ianp7383]

Looks like you’re a Texans fan now lol

[@ericmeadows9477]

Now I'm oppressed because they changed my favorite sports team name. Who do I complain too?

[@Aanbrickalan]

Thanks 😢 I now get it

[@Skinsfan95]

Same, long time Redskins fan here. Now it’s football team fan lol oh It’s painful

[@Whitpusmc]

Well I’m disappointed in Tom Hanks for lending his voice to this trash.

[@markh9675]

Oh friend, I have a ricky gervais golden globes video to share!

[@billrogan9350]

I doubt Hanks "lended" his voice. He probably made a good amount of money for a half hour of work.

[@Q_Tard]

"We remember those moments by forgetting them, and erasing them."

[@eddiehauser6661]

Nobody is erasing or forgetting those moments. That's the whole point, the importance of the history of this team are those moments and the pride they bring to the city, not the name

[@TheAzurefang]

@@eddiehauser6661 Native peoples have close to zero representation in mainstream US culture. How is wiping out these names helping them exactly?

[@jeremyhinze8837]

@@TheAzurefang it doesn't help anyone, it's absolutely ridiculous.

[@stikupartist3698]

@@TheAzurefang that's how genocide and settler colonialism works. Kill and replace.

[@p.t.mchaineyman3235]

Down the "Memory Hole", Winston...

[@brandonjordan1052]

I'm just getting ready for all the jokes and memes about the Cleveland Gaurdians cannot "Guard" a lead lol

[@anwoch]

Cleveland Indians: *change their name* The memers: I can milk you

[@vinnywalker7177]

This organization is definitely going to need a Guardian if they want any type of shot of winning a ball game . And you know 99% of people are going to still wear there Indian Jerseys and gear to the games so the irony is they changed the name because it’s sooooo offensive but everyone there never for a second is worried about what anyone is wearing …

[@DrZionth]

If I had a professional team named after my race I would be honored.

[@zombie5505]

Cleveland scots

[@nathanwilliams4005]

The Cleveland White Supremacists (According to the left).

[@meganlance8271]

They just throw Scottish and Irish all together lol

[@detroitandclevelandfan5503]

I know right. I am a fifth generation German American and proud of my heritage. If they named it the Cleveland Krauts, they would be my favorite team.

[@TmoneybagsWalker]

As a die hard cleveland sports fan this is soo devastating

[@s1ime_987]

They’re going to lose fans over this

[@joef5416]

They lost me when they dropped Chief Wahoo

[@brewskibrew986]

Hopefully

[@richierich5694]

What fans?

[@TrumpSucksMyDick]

So what

[@myblacklab7]

That's for sure, but they may get a slight merch boost from wokesters buying "Guardians" apparel. They're apparently trying to capture the virtue-signaling market - I'll be shocked if they don't sell masks.

[@gingerdurbin2726]

“I’m not a smart man...” -Tom Hanks

[@yoyo762]

No actor really is. Look no further than DeNiro. Seriously dim witted without being told what to say.

[@Dogge497]

"SHUT UP AND PLAY" -Everyone

[@alonewanderer8538]

I agree with you!

[@12yearsa57]

we are gamers rise up gamers

[@bowserificB]

“There’s no crying (about original team names) in baseball” - Tom Hanks

[@ramongonzalez2112]

I thought Hanks was from Oakland?😳

[@MrBV2U]

Totally believable, a group so easily offended is the guardian and protector.

[@evenhartwick4422]

Ikr, why does not a single person in a position of power have the balls to tell SJWs to go shove it? if i was in charge of a sports team or a big corporation or movie studio, i literally wouldn't even acknowledge these peoples complaints even exist and id sleep like a baby

[@magnum1118]

@@evenhartwick4422 and you would promptly lose your job because of that

[@evenhartwick4422]

@@magnum1118 who would fire me? I'm in charge and i certainly wouldn't fire myself

[@almy623]

@@evenhartwick4422 exactly and how do such weak people get soo successful like society is soo flipped rn

[@magnum1118]

@@almy623 what you call weakness. Others call empathy and awareness, that's how they get ahead, by not being having a lump of coal for a soul like you.

[@scottydubs]

I haven't watched a professional sports ball game in over two years and I'm never going back.

[@the1basser]

Shouldn't they also rename the Cleveland " Browns " ?? Isn't that offensive to brown people ?

[@MajorGeneralDiscomfort]

No, it's offensive to shit.

[@andya2665]

Let's name them something that wouldn't offend anyone...The Cleveland White Men, and baseball season can be year around because it's always open season on White Men.

[@andya2665]

@4Freedom4All let's not offend the elves.

[@johnschmid2316]

@@andya2665 white is a term of oppression

[@katmandu66]

@@andya2665 You poor, poor white man. With all that you've suffered, it's brave of you to even leave this comment. Hopefully someday whites everywhere will stop suffering such grave indignities and break free of the shackles of oppression.

[@petebyron1957]

If the Cleveland Indians had to change their name. The State of Indiana should too.🤣🤣🤣

[@em_dee10]

Boy this really fucked with my joke I always told: "Hey, did you hear the Cleveland Indians are going to change their name to something less offensive? Now they're going to be the Ohio Indians."

[@crustbucket2725]

Is that an original joke or did you find it? That's pretty funny NGL. Maybe they misheard you and accidentally replaced the wrong word, just make the joke backwards and they might fix it. 😏😌

[@ryan3599]

@Albert Gront what, your whole point makes no sense and is just incorrect.

[@MarkyMark15]

This doesnt change the fact that every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes Together we can stop this

[@vladdracula1074]

🤣

[@marilynalvarez9951]

LOL! donation check is in he mail, payable to "Guardians R Us"

[@lowfrequency1180]

F me, that was good

[@Schwedeballz]

Lol

[@freakjob0]

Metric Time?

[@indioloco6600]

Jim Thorpe was one of the greatest athletes of all time. He was an indian.

[@luvmechanix]

Nope hes not indian anymore hes a white guy now

[@Duck_Dodgers]

He's the greatest all around athelte of the 20th century

[@luvmechanix]

And we are proud that he's a white guy now

[@williamloging4127]

Also don’t forget about Jim Thome too, dude hit rockets to the moon

[@derrickpunk]

I'm native American and I'm not offended... I found it an honor for teams to be named after us.

[@ericlehman6841]

There will be some who feel like you. However, it will be different as time goes on.

[@raphayah4933]

“…Cleveland, that’s the best part of our name”, Gag Now THAT is offensive!

[@Mikevdog]

My thoughts also. You are already starting off with a bad name and only changed the least offensive part.

[@myblacklab7]

Whenever I'm feeling a little scared, I always think "Cleveland... Cleveland will guard me."

[@raphayah4933]

@@myblacklab7 lol!

[@MikeDerucki0]

I was hoping for the Cleveland Pythons because they specialize in choking.

[@p.z.arnott2329]

I get the joke, but Cleveland Pythons is a better than Cleveland Guardians.

[@michaelhenson9478]

@@p.z.arnott2329 I agree. But hey Cleveland has a championship in its city, World Series appearance and an nfl playoff recently which is a lot more than Cincinnati can say

[@chillokapi5225]

@@michaelhenson9478 NHL? did I miss something ? When did Cleveland get an expansion team?

[@carbonclaw7280]

😂😂😂

[@dandutre2272]

I thought that their was "no crying in baseball!"

[@mikefrench3800]

No kiddin!!!

[@RobertJones-ic2vo]

Indians fan here, PREACH BEN!!

[@kronos4097]

as a Cleveland man, I can tell you that most fans are not too happy about the name change. I work at a sub shop and all I saw today was Indians t-shirts and hats

[@aldonapolitano5979]

Fans can best express their unhappiness by not going to their games, watching their games or buying their merch. I feel your pain.

[@Wall2157]

The name Guardians is awful. Since the name change was inevitable, Cleveland should have gone back to the Spiders.

[@thebl00dybaron]

Or the Cleveland Natives

[@samcam8284]

What did they change the name of the team to the “Cleveland grovelling cowards”, it would be appropriate. 😂

[@user-fz3sz2dj4r]

The natives near me literally call themselves an “Indian band”….

[@fbyi2940]

Well they are native...

[@seanmccallum6558]

As someone from Cleveland and a Indians fan this just breaks my heart.

[@cxa340]

Same - I just can’t get over this like part of my youth died today. If they wanted to rename the team the first thing they could have done was give us a World Series victory first - this is a slap in the face for the last 73 years of support like it was all just a cosmic joke. Now we will all never have seen an Indians World Series victory.

[@lim4275]

My god, you’re crybabies. You can still cheer for your team. Your youth didn’t die, and you haven’t been slapped in the face; even metaphorically. All the actual problems in the world, and you’re acting like a team changing their name is some great tragedy. Get a grip!

[@cabbey09]

@@lim4275 it's not just the name change. It's sad this stupid game everyone is playing. Nobody is offended but they change the name to show how virtuous they they are. They're going to continue like ben said until the teams are just animal names and then you'll see people trying to explain how offensive the turtles name is. People are upset that this is where we've got as a society.

[@willthethrillaac2007]

@LIM 42, to baseball fans, this is pretty disappointing. Everyone likes it the way it is-and if you’re an Indians fan and has a teams name changed that was special to you you do feel like it’s a slap in the face.

[@lim4275]

@@cabbey09 I understand that. I’m not stupid. But the truth is that teams have also changed their names in the past due to political or societal pressures. Just as an example, Middle Tennessee State University used Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest as their mascot. They removed his name in 1963 due to political pressure. Stanford University changed its team name from Indians to Cardinal (the color, not the bird) in 1972. They made the change because of pressure from Native American students and neighboring tribes protested that the name was an insult to their culture and heritage. The Golden State Warriors (previously the Philadelphia Warriors) changed their mascot from a caricature of a Native American to a headdress logo from 1962-1969. In 1969, they dropped the Native American theme entirely due to political pressure. It’s been a drawing of the Golden Gate Bridge since 1969. Dickinson State University in North Dakota changed its team name from Savages (with corresponding Native American logo) to Blue Hawks in 1972. Dartmouth College changed its team name from Indians to Big Green in 1974. In 1994, St John’s University changed their name from Redmen to Red Storm, and ditched a Native American team logo. Miami of Ohio changed from Redskins to RedHawks in 1997. Tampa Bay Devil Rays dropped the “Devil” from their name in 2006, because local Christian groups felt that the team needed an “exorcism” from the word “Devil”, in order to change the luck of the losing franchise. There are many more examples too, going back as far as the 1950’s and 1960’s. The truth is, societies and the world evolve over time. It’s a natural progression.

[@bobcore224]

I completely agree and this changing of sports teams names is idiotic and unnecessary and an awful attempt to be woke, as you put it.

[@monkeygraborange]

Doesn’t really matter as most of them will be bankrupt by this time next year.

[@matthewstewart6426]

As the guardian of a child, this name offends me

[@twally4966]

I am in your side, it’s fucked up how normal people can’t be offended. You can’t call Cleveland the Indians but any man who claims he is a woman you better call that a goddamn woman.

[@daneherring509]

How is “Indian” offensive when actual native Americans call themselves Indians?

[@kylebuffkin7514]

People at my work are so soft. I call them out for their liberal BS. Then they always say, "well that's cause your a Republican." My response is always, "I don't have a political party, my party is logic." That always baffles them, stuns them. You Ben are always a breath of fresh air. Keep up the good work

[@jacquesdemolay5171]

Fact is, those complaining about the name don't even watch baseball. EVER.

[@lakeracer8453]

That's an omnipotent statement. Exactly how do you purport to know this information? Your FACT is nothing more than your uniformed opinion.

[@masonwright9373]

@@lakeracer8453 stfu

[@tylerburgess5197]

As an Indians fan for all my life I’m in a tremendous amount of pain.

[@12yearsa57]

Tbf they''ve been saying the name will change for a while, "Gaurdians" is trash tho, just go back to the Spiders

[@seanmccallum6558]

I feel your pain, brother.

[@satyal789]

😪

[@cxa340]

If Indians is so offensive then I assume we are renaming the lake, the county/river, the state, because damn it Erie, Cuyahoga, and Ohio are all Indian names. If they really cared they could have just said the team name is the Iroquois Indians - so real name change needed now we are specific about which group

[@12yearsa57]

@@cxa340 facts

[@payanlouis]

They should have named them the Cleveland Gardeners but I'm sure someone would lose their sh*t too lmao 🤣😅😅😆🤣

[@joshuat20k]

Let's forget about Native Americans poeple..they DIDNT EVER EXIST.

[@myblacklab7]

A Native American actually said that to me once: "They act like we don't even exist anymore."

[@patrickdaly5068]

“We hold tight to our roots”, until any player statue with “Indians” on the chest is pulled down and “Indians” is blurred on all archived footage.

[@mikes8079]

Full native here and an enrolled member of a federally recognized tribe; myself and many other enrolled tribal members do not appreciate the use of native mascots in any mainstream platform. The issue is less so about whether it is offensive but more so about the extent of the harm it does to tribal nations. Ask enrolled tribal members about this issue. Don’t ask anyone who says “my great great grandmother was a Cherokee princess” or people who claim native descent after taking a DNA test or people who visited Ancestry.com. Elephant in the room: There are nearly 600 tribes recognized by the federal government. Did you ask all of them about this issue?

[@АНАСТАСИЯВасси]

They made those Washington Caucasian shirts out of sarcasm. I'd be stoked to buy a Washington Caucasian or Washington whites shirt.

[@mikes8079]

@@АНАСТАСИЯВасси people still say stoked? Lol. I haven’t heard that since the frat bros in college who dropped out first semester. Unless…..

[@АНАСТАСИЯВасси]

@@mikes8079 well thank god. Because now I don't have to remember native Americans ever existed. That's the point of removing them right?

[@eddiehauser6661]

@@АНАСТАСИЯВасси That is a completely ridiculous statement. The point is to actually remember and think of them accurately. And the most obvious issue with that is that they're not freaking Indian! India is on the complete opposite side of the globe!

[@gwikeh]

Tom Hanks acting like "Cleveland" is the good part, lol sure

[@neilrigdon8197]

🤣

[@Calebrogers100]

What do you mean

[@HunterR1223]

@@Calebrogers100 he means Cleveland sucks ass

[@kyleflanagan4285]

Coming from a guy who probably hasn't spent much time in Cleveland.

[@noahcusick27]

@@HunterR1223 they don't tho

[@blueleader7577]

I'm offend that they changed the name, I have a native background, I am proud when teams use our names, it keeps our heritage and name alive.

[@beaudare4717]

Blue leader, Very well put. I thank you for your thoughtful comment. You have a wonderful view of life. All best wishes.

[@AS42100]

Same here. It’s like they are trying to forget we exist.

[@cherylvergin1757]

What about the 'Fighting Irish' of Notre Dame? Is the Irish population offended by their team name?

[@Relaxokay359]

I'm not offended by it one bit. Same with Saint Patrick's Day and people running around saying "kiss me I'm irish"

[@shuki1]

@@Relaxokay359 exactly! Minorities love when they get to be accepted by the mass culture and glorified. The woke left is striving to divide and delegitimize.

[@NJLev]

Nah only POC team names offend the white lefties. The Vikings, fighting Irish, and Celtics are safe.

[@showdown2006]

Don’t worry I’m sure they’ll get to them soon.

[@NJLev]

@@showdown2006 Doubt it.

[@tonyjones4610]

I’m surprised they didn’t go with the Cleveland George Floyd’s,

[@PANZERFAUST90]

Cleveland George Floyd's what

[@Defy_Convention]

The Cleveland Saint Floyd's

[@chrislewis8974]

Floyd’s counterfeit Indians

[@ramongonzalez2112]

Twins have rights to that one. The abortionists will cancel that name.🤢

[@chrislewis8974]

I don’t like the buccanneers because it marginalizes the pirate community. PETA is coming after the dolphins, bears, lions. And the alphabet gang are gunning for the green bay packers name change.

[@pacostrikes5096]

I'm more upset they changed to the gaurdians instead of bringing back the Cleveland spiders

[@ClarisseRockinThatBow]

We were campaigning for the Spiders, too! Who picked the Guardian?

[@createimag4088]

@@ClarisseRockinThatBow Me 3 on the spiders! What were they thinking!? What a corny name

[@pimpdaddee28]

As a lifelong Clevelander, I'm glad you brought this issue up Ben. It is very pathetic that this is what we have resorted to as a society. The Native Americans still have the highest suicide rates and they get some of the worst medical care in this country, but changing the names of sports teams that have Native American references is WAAAAAAY MORE important. That should make everything better since we are erasing any acknowledgment of them and, in turn, people will completely forget about them and their problems, which makes sense since the government has already forgotten about them for many years now. I've told plenty of people that were in favor of the name change and/or the removal of Chief Wahoo that if there was a sports team with a Sphinx head logo (real or cartoon caricature), along with an Egyptian themed team name, that I would definitely buy any and all apparel with that logo!! Btw, I'm Egyptian and I would TOTALLY wear a New York Jews T-shirt/Jersey!! I know that doesn't sound right (being an Egyptian and all), but my parents came from Egypt because they were persecuted for being Christians in a Muslim country. Plus my dad was drafted/forced to fight in the six day-war of 1967 and he was rescued by the Israeli Army (they knew he was a Coptic Christian because of the crucifix tattoo that he had, plus he never shot anyone during the war). He respected the Jews his entire life and firmly believed (until the day he died) that they have the best military in the world.

[@IAmAlpharius20]

New York Seraphim sounds more appropriate