Climate damage: How and why rich countries should pay up

The people and industries of the world's richest countries have done the most to heat the planet. But they're terrified of being held liable for extreme weather they've made more violent. Meanwhile, the poorest can't afford to pay for the consequences of other people's pollution. So should the rich world be paying climate reparations - and what's the best way to do so?
Credits
Reporter: Ajit Niranjan
Video Editor: Markus Mörtz
Supervising editor: Kiyo Dörrer & Joanna Gottschalk
We're destroying our environment at an alarming rate. But it doesn't need to be this way. Our new channel Planet A explores the shift towards an eco-friendly world - and challenges our ideas about what dealing with climate change means. We look at the big and the small: What we can do and how the system needs to change. Every Friday we'll take a truly global look at how to get us out of this mess.
#PlanetA #ClimateReparations #ClimateDamage
Read more:
COP27 agreement on loss and damage payments: unfccc.int/sites/default/file...
Historical CO2 emissions since 1850 from fossil fuels, cement and land use change: www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-...
Pakistan floods weather attribution study: www.worldweatherattribution.o...
Progress toward the $100 billion pledge: www.oecd-ilibrary.org/finance...
Fair shares of climate finance: cdn.odi.org/media/documents/A...
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:10 Background
02:55 COP27
06:13 Climate Reparations
08:48 Tax Big Oil
10:04 Pollution Levies
10:46 Cancel Debt
11:47 Conclusion

[@DWPlanetA]

How is your country affected by climate change?

[@robertdouglas8895]

I can't say. Someone deletes my comments.

[@johnnylangen2839]

Not at all

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[@user-oz9oz4mo5h]

У нас снижаются и пропадают урожаи, ледяные дожди повреждают инфраструктуру, деревья погибают (особенно ели). Зверей и перелетных птиц потравили

[@johnnylangen2839]

shouldn't You speak out against politically motivated Censorship from Technocrats DW ?

[@sockhal4595]

The responsibility should be on the companies first, they are polluting and for decades they lied about it and the consequences.

[@setcheck67]

Something I noticed right away. Here is the reason he skirted that... If the world had some kind of enforced tax on polluting companies it would mean trying to collect from companies who have already moved into less protective countries for profits and lets be real here that such a collection would be from... China. Most countries in the world have some kind of restraint on pollution at this point, but we all know which country has citizens who regularly have to wear masks just to BREATH in their cities. If you're trying to collect on oil companies, well they are a spiteful bunch. Try to impose the tiniest fine on one of them and the oil companies all unite and charge you double/triple/10x the price for oil. The oil companies already know they still have all the power and no one can stop them, because they also lobbied against accountability for their leadership for threatening nations with that power. What really should of been announced at the united nations is what the consequences will be for oil companies who attempt to subvert the authority of nations in dealing with this issue. That oil tycoon won't be laughing anymore when his house is raided and he gets black bagged to an unknown prison cell for treason in whatever country he happens to be from.

[@thesilentone4024]

Ya and the oil companies have made record amounts of money in 2021 and 2022. Most Americans lost everything. Yes make the companies fix there damage not the whole dam country.

[@user-oz9oz4mo5h]

All of Humanity and the entire biosphere of the planet have been bombed with nanoaluminium and barium salts for many years. 70% of sunlight and heat due to chemtrails does not reach the earth's surface, where carbon dioxide accumulates in the surface layer - one of the main greenhouse gases. The heat scattered by aluminum powder particles radiated by the sun and the earth's surface heats carbon dioxide and suspensions in the air day and night. Without light, there is no photosynthesis, which reduce in past the amount of CO2. Demon-possessed managers steal oxygen from humanity, crops are declining, trees are dying and becoming a fire hazard. Artificial temperature rise in a chemtrail greenhouse is used to create artificial "weather" cataclysms

[@pierboers824]

This is very tricky to set up, because it can cause a lot of corruption. Already a problem in a lot of countries.

[@alexbroere2669]

I was about to say. There is so much corruption in a lot of these poor countries that even if you would put money on the table you wouldn't be sure it goes to the right projects and people. It's tough even if it's decided to help. Getting money and goods to the people who really need it is still hard due to parties involved.

[@Ballacha]

Three main reasons why developed countries should PAY UP 1. If you tally up historical emissions from Industrial Revolution to today, you’ll find developed countries has emitted magnitudes more co2 than others. And most of that history they pumped co2 into the atmosphere without any regulation. 2. Developed countries still emits more co2 per capita today even though they’ve exported a large proportion of the co2 to developing countries (i.e. manufacturing sector) where labour is cheaper. 3. Countries like China, where every developed country exports their emission to, are doing way more to combat climate change than developed countries. They have huge government incentive for car manufacturers to gradually phase out ICE cars and make EVs instead. They’ve also built 30,000kms of high speed rail which emits 12 to 15 times less co2 per passenger than short domestic flights. Among other aggressive emission cutting measures. It’s shameful that countries who got rich from pumping as much co2 as they wanted for decades/century and half aren’t doing way, way more.

[@grahamt5924]

I live in one of these rich countries, England. Every day, I walk past homless people. I go and do house visits to poor people who can't afford heating and food and have diseases caused by black mould due to damp and cold houses. You mean this country, which can't even afford to house everyone decently or ensure everyone has enough money to pay for heating to ensure mould does not overwhelm the people living in them. This country is the one that supposedly has the money to ensure the entire world can live through the effects of climate change. I don't think people actually realise how poor people are who live in rich countries.

[@ashtaws]

I live in England too, and that's why this video talks about those repsonsible should pay which is the government, corporations and oil companies. It should not be ordinary everyday taxpayers who has to bail out the governments/companies yet again...

[@grahamt5924]

@Has If you put up the prices to the oil companies, I will have to pay more for energy. How is that going to help. If the government needs more money, they are just going to charge me more in tax. If the corporations have to pay more for anything, I will have to pay more for what I need. England is in a terrible state right now. We can't afford to pay for what we are doing already and services will need to be slashed as it is.

[@ashtaws]

@@grahamt5924 You are right. They will find a way for ordinary folks to bare the brunt. However, developing countries are suffering for others wants and needs!

[@nielspulles4889]

How about the rich oil states? And China? It’s ridiculous that they are in the ‘poor country group’.

[@shayan_idk]

middle eastern oil countries absolutely but china is literally still poor with respect to population lol the only people who suggest this are americans and insecure europeans seeing a more representative global economy

[@700mph]

Companies and countries should pay. Mainly Corporations. Corporations lobby politicians and governments to pollute. Start with Corporations.

[@xavierjiang7112]

I think it is more important and sustainable for the rich to develop/switch to sustainable sources of energy, since they are the only one with the resources and capital to do that. Rather than using this fund to "repay damage", which means slower transition to sustainable energy. Which means more heating. The simple fact is clear: we must stop digging up carbon, NOW. Immediately. Anything that does not help address this as quickly as possible is steps backward. Only when we had become truly self-sufficient can we say "ok lets look back and try to fix some of the bad things we had done."

[@KarlosEPM]

Spot on.

[@TheSkystrider]

Also need to stop planned obsolescence. Us rich countries continually need to replace our goods because one little weak plastic part on our vacuum or flashlight etc has broken and not easily fixable. Takes energy to mine, manufacture and ship those goods over the ocean.

[@luizprado1077]

Stop lying that you have ever been concerned about the poor!!

[@tezzo55]

In translation this means the dodgy corrupt international elite is creating yet another means of extracting money from the western former middle class, that is every people. And, of course, the fund will be pilfered, just like the EU and SBF pilfered the monies they got from everyday people. And if the real people of Africa actually think they'll get any of this money they are heartbreakingly mistaken.

[@luizprado1077]

@@tezzo55 Exactly. Their only concern is about how to imposing to the world the technologies that are controlled by a few.

[@tezzo55]

@@luizprado1077 Absolutely right sir. We need to do away with these money-grabbing elites (governments) and govern ourselves directly.

[@tylerdurden4006]

Definitely not the big oil companies that are largely responsible for this in the first place.

[@markarca6360]

What a cruel irony.

[@Holy_Frijole]

As an American I'm very open to canceling their debt. Maybe we can stipulate they must use % for climate mitigation. It would be bad all around if their politicians misused those funds-it would make further compensation even hard to get in the future. So for the sake of combating climate change having stipulations seems the adult thing to do.

[@KarlosEPM]

As a latin american I completely agree with you. I see the average american being squeezed for this fund and the money ending up in few hands of corrupt 3rd world "leaders", as has been the case for forever.

[@thecrippledpancake9455]

The poor people will pay the price for it. I’m sure

[@Jaff4r]

One of the most well-edited and informative videos on the topic! Absolutely loved how you added the perspective of Pakistan, it was very much needed

[@Brightearthco]

Paving roads causes sea level rise 😅 water can absorb into the ground and sends it straight to rivers which go to the ocean / Flood towns. Also in Pakistan they built major cities on a dried lake bed, and they had a big rain which started filling it up.

[@randbarrett8706]

The price will be paid with the suffering & bloodshed of those people with the least wealth. I think there are very many Americans who would genuinely prefer any amount of human suffering over inconveniencing themselves in anyway.

[@tezzo55]

In translation this means the dodgy corrupt international elite is creating yet another means of extracting money from the western former middle class, that is every people. And, of course, the fund will be pilfered, just like the EU and SBF pilfered the monies they got from everyday people. And if the real people of Africa actually think they'll get any of this money they are heartbreakingly mistaken.

[@KarlosEPM]

Yes.

[@deanfowles3707]

That's the American way. But this time it ain't gonna work for them it ain't like a war in some poor brown country the other side of the world. Americans rich and poor will suffer. Maybe billionaires and multi millionaires can avoid much suffering. Everyone else will not

[@mondalmriganka]

Why are we excluding the countries which sold most of their hydro carbons to other countries ? Didn’t they get rich out of it?

[@yeldarBkereD]

My only issues with this video is that 1) it acts like the poor in rich countries aren't going to pay the price for these reparations and 2) it acts like the US isn't already 31 trillion dollars in debt. Also, taking money from energy producing companies and countries will only make the costs of living continue to increase for the poorest of the world. Lastly, the rich countries are the ones creating the solutions that will help solve the environmental problems. All of the options presented here will slow progress of future change to solve problems now. It's basically stealing the future from the unborn.

[@manubhatt3]

Perhaps making available the relevant technologies and it's licenses free of cost then?

[@tezzo55]

In translation this means the dodgy corrupt international elite is creating yet another means of extracting money from the western former middle class, that is every people. And, of course, the fund will be pilfered, just like the EU and SBF pilfered the monies they got from everyday people. And if the real people of Africa actually think they'll get any of this money they are heartbreakingly mistaken.

[@shkh569]

Make sure the rich countries don’t sell those solutions for a premium to the developing countries then.

[@shkh569]

Yes it was a very sophisticated contract in the making by the developed nations if they managed to be rich with shit tonnes of debt in the first place while others actively bear the brunt for it.

[@Halli50]

Never mind getting the worst historical polluters (us, the developed nations) paying for damages already and inexorably underway. Just getting the worst polluters to genuinely TRY to stop polluting would be a major first step, a step too few nations seem willing to even try taking. The whole issue is likely to be drowned in pointless arguments over whether huge nations that have spewed out the vast majority of pollution for the past 2 centuries are to blame, or whether to focus on the worst "current" offenders, i.e. rather small nations that pollute more than others now pr. person, but whose total pollution is insignificant in the grander scheme of things. Countries like New Zealand, Iceland and Greenland may have a significant CO2 footprint pr. person but, being small, even tiny nations in large territories, our footprint per area of territory is minuscule! A better frame of reference is called for. How about a "CO2 pollution pr. person pr. distance traveled"? A poor African that has to walk wherever he/she goes is definitely not polluting as much as an overweight 'Murican, traveling alone in his/her 250hp, 2.5ton truck.

[@manubhatt3]

I am from India and I think that when we take into account historic per capita emissions, we should also apply the initial population levels back then to calculate per capita emissions back then and even now. It would probably still conclude that rich countries need to pay but just that it would be lesser and more just as it will take into account the population growth differential between rich and poor countries. And instead of taxing fossil fuel companies, we should be taxing their usage itself. Now, with such higher prices, there is no need as free market will do the job.

[@grahamt5924]

I am from England. We can't even afford to ensure that everyone has a home, that home has heating, and the people in it are nourished. I don't think people realise how poor rich countries are.

[@grahamt5924]

Also, people cheer when the price of energy goes up, because that mean consumption will go down, but they forget that for the poorest people in society, they will probably die from this price increase. The people dying are in these rich countries. In England, we lose about 30 000 people a year due to them being unable to afford to sufficiently heat their home. When the price goes up, more die.

[@manubhatt3]

@@grahamt5924 Poor countries have become less poor while inequality has increased everywhere.

[@grahamt5924]

@Abhay Bhatt Inequality has always been rampant everywhere. I am just saying that there are no rich countries that can afford what the people in poor countries think they can afford. These rich countries are spending more than they earn, trying to provide the services they currently provide. As the price of energy goes up, many of these rich countries won't even be able to provide the services they currently do, and then at that point they will be poor countries, just like everywhere else. The difference between all these countries is marginal.

[@manubhatt3]

@@grahamt5924 I do not cheer on energy prices going up except by way of my investments in the sector. What I was trying to say that taxing fossil fuel companies is a worse idea than taxing the usage. And regarding your concerns, the solution is to use that tax and also in general, to increase redistribution in the society from rich to poor.

[@MrMichiel1983]

I never saw any of the money that was made by Big Oil. Making poor people in rich countries pay more tax is not justice. Go ask companies for money, not the people of the countries they are in.

[@erickane7093]

Maybe Saudi Arabia should help too, as well as other oil producers, as well as the other big oil corporations.

[@vioheubach3112]

Wow 3 from 9 comments visible 👍🙄

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[@myboysd5772]

@@DWPlanetA What words are blocked

[@vioheubach3112]

@@myboysd5772 Probably a lot if 6 out of 9 comments are held back.

[@myboysd5772]

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[@Kiyoone]

Remember a time when you can't even say the NAME of some places or people? Back in time? Like in 1943 ~ 1945... Some place called Germany? Under a Nazzionalist regime? That had no opposition or other point of views in some matters? Yeah, Just like that. But the year is 2022 and we have 'social media"... The censorship is done by the so called "Algorithm". And humans are not in control of it AT ALL (🤣😂 give me a break)

[@basbekjenl]

Yeah we should do something but putting money aside to give it to people as an apology for drought, flooding fires you name it seems like buying out of dealing with the problems. We should be using that money to set up as many projects where people live to make sure those people can survive those disasters.

[@shayan_idk]

the best solution is for rich countries to implement new taxes on oil and aviation, that way the taxpayers of those countries have no extra burden for something they had no say in, and the exploited suffering countries still get the funds they need to respond to the unnatural disasters theyre continually increasingly facing

[@The_Lord_has_it]

Uhh, who do you think pays those taxes on oil and gas? Let's say you own a pencil manufacturing company. The govt decides to tax you, say $1 for the lead in each pencil that you were selling for 10 cents each. How much do you need to sell you pencil for now to make the same money you were before? BTW- THIS is why they're attacking math as racist now. Gotta dumb all their peasants down so they look at their elite masters as God's. The whole thing is a scam bud. Maybe the climate is changing but they have no intention of doing anything about it except control people and get rich. I've spent the last 25 years as an electrical engineer designing power systems. There is NO WAY were running America on wind, solar and batteries and that's without including EV's. We're inevitably going to be encouraged to schedule our public transportation so as not to waste what little green energy we have. No way is anyone heating their house in the winter (or running AC in the summer) with green energy either. It takes way to much current to power anything that creates heat, cold or movement for green energy and THEY KNOW IT. They're using this to fool people to control them and stay in power. They know that nuclear would work but there's no fear, no control, and no adding to their wealth. They couldn't care less about climate change. It's all a sham.

[@grahamt5924]

Increase energy prices and some people will die in those rich countries. It comes down to how many people you want to kill, I suppose with each policy.

[@nerdlingeeksly5192]

I do believe the rich countries need to lead the way in reducing climate change, I don't believe they need to pay reparations. We're being asked to pay reparations for something we didn't realize was even hurting the planet until a couple decades ago, You Don't See countries or large businesses being forced to pay reparations for using asbestos before it was known to cause damage to your lungs. And up until recently every country who used plumbing used lead pipes.

[@elrikstronginthearm9267]

well yes, but we (rich countries) are still profiting from the things we did decades ago. The options are either to let others do the same mistakes (I hope I don't have to tell anybody that that is a bad idea) or shift so much of our wealth untill everbody can 'enjoy' the positive sides of what they have (and had) to suffer through. Ideally so that the more someone suffers/suffered, the more they get.

[@Lildizzle420]

we can stand around pointing fingers at each other until our eco system collapses and we all have to eat bugs to survive, it's time to pay up.

[@nerdlingeeksly5192]

@@elrikstronginthearm9267 your basically asking for world wide communism. We can just revert the damage, we don't need to spread the wealth, poorer countries can get wealthy on their own if they can stop being so self destructive.

[@nerdlingeeksly5192]

@@Lildizzle420 I'm not pointing fingers, and I'm ok with paying enough to reverse the damage, but not paying reparations on top of that. Their lack of industry does not equate to them having a right to demand money from me.

[@xTexnarelx]

@@nerdlingeeksly5192 You should ask yourself where the metal, oil, and resources comes from to fuel your industry before even thinking about it. Self-destructive? What do you have to say about the coups that countries like the US has done to undermine democracy and destabilize countries every time they want to have a saying in their economical agenda. Also, how much money goes to the global south and how much goes to the global north? The trade between those 2 sectors is clearly unfair.

[@markarca6360]

Here in the Philippines, some places are sinking due to the rise in the sea level. Also to mention the extreme weather events during this year.

[@DWPlanetA]

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[@deanfowles3707]

Let's do solar geoengineering

[@davidcox5453]

Thank you for the excellent content

[@5414vivek]

You're talking we used to burn coal as if Germany hasn't open several coal mines just in recent month. The most dirtiest fossil fuel.

[@DWPlanetA]

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[@perec3674]

Building mass transportation in developing countries would be a great step. Collaborating with foreign governments, the western countries wealth can go much further in these economies. The truth is that the western economies and China are the top polluters, so we must transition to renewables.

[@ianwhite8461]

Elephant in the room is world over population. Most of our problems, pollution, food shortages, housing, & water shortages, air quality, distribution of wealth, wild life conservation to name just a few nearly all come back to over population. We need a HUMANE way (I stress this) of reducing world population before competition for what will become inadequate resources leads to wars - possibly national, regional, tribal or even neighborly. In 1979 China tried bravely but it quickly led to many problems. Birth rate reduction appears least inhumane (alternative of compulsory euthenasia at a set age doesn't appeal to me as an 80 year old) but needs balance - say 2 children in the hope of maintaining balance of the sexes. Population would still rise for a while but might peak and then stabilise.

[@manubhatt3]

With the humongous differential/variability in the per capita emissions and consumption across the World, I tend to disagree with you. The high consumption rate in the rich countries is more of a problem here but we should also take into account the role of cold weather in this.

[@Kiyoone]

Well, how about starting as an example Mr. Thanos? Die first, some may follow you.

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[@Noukz37]

The book that I'm working on will mention often this very important and complex topic. There are many options to solve this problem for sure!

[@JointWeek]

Thank you ❤️

[@Elementalism.]

maybe we should be getting contributions, not just from nations, but also the companies. (edit: i should have watched to the end) These have been the largest contributors to emissions and pollution in history, and no one seems to be mentioning them. Remember that they are the ones who spent billions on pushing cars on this world, fighting hard against any sensible solution to the movement of people, like public transport, bikes, and walkable neighbourhoods. They made our world one of consumerism. yearly fashion pushing people to get the latest smartphone every year, and working hard to make them as hard to repair as possible. Cheap products that break regularly, just so you will buy a new one. we are in the shtter right now because of them but let me guess, their reparations are paid through the taxes they don't pay?

[@badrinair]

Good one

[@zombiehampster1397]

Its not a matter of should, its a matter of CAN the world give the bill to the top polluters. I'm from the US and what I think they would say is: "Absolutely. Wait...we're one of them? Nevermind. No." That bill would be massive and the US is far too jingoistic (even in those who aren't overly militaristic) to ever fess up to that crime.

[@iancormie9916]

Lets see the real temperature data and how accurate the models are. Not only that, temperatures at the equator will not see increased temperatures Canada and Russia on the otherhand may see 4 degrees of changes.

[@deanfowles3707]

Why would the equator not see any temperature increase? Or to put it another way, you're wrong, temperatures are increasing everywhere

[@vioheubach3112]

The damage that is caused can't be repaired by money, it's despicable.

[@nerdlingeeksly5192]

The money can pay people to repair it

[@vioheubach3112]

@@nerdlingeeksly5192 You cannot repair melting glaciers or destroyed rainforest, or droughts.. or a person that has drowned during a flood.

[@Dreinorh]

@@nerdlingeeksly5192 The money will only go into the pockets of a few greedy people in those countries... we have seen that countless times before.

[@nerdlingeeksly5192]

@@Dreinorh not if the money isn't managed by those countries, let the UN or a coalition of doner nations manage how it is spent

[@alaska3300]

@@nerdlingeeksly5192 It’s a scam

[@entropicpedro]

Whether they'll even pay it I doubt...

[@emilyarchibald1900]

It's a step forward.

[@tezzo55]

In translation this means the dodgy corrupt international elite is creating yet another means of extracting money from the western former middle class, that is every people. And, of course, the fund will be pilfered, just like the EU and SBF pilfered the monies they got from everyday people. And if the real people of Africa actually think they'll get any of this money they are heartbreakingly mistaken.

[@KarlosEPM]

I disagree (and I am Honduran). Spend it in the transition into green energy in your countries. Figure it out and then share the technologies, instead of throwing money at our countries... money which will be taken by corrupt leaders anyway.

[@vovalos]

I'll get downvoted here, but why is it always "carbon debt" when we bring up the developed world and never the "technological debt", "medical research debt", "automation debt", etc. when we talk about the developing world?

[@genesisdigitalyt]

Weird how you claim oil companies made record breaking profits. It's almost like you didn't account for inflation on purpose.

[@mihiec]

How come countries should pay for private sector who made profit on using fossil fuel???

[@chinglishkai8126]

In South Africa, believe that some form of transfer is just, it must however be to countries with clean, audited governments. In SA, just about every cent will be pocketed by our politicians, I'd rather the necessary be done without their involvement.

[@erickane7093]

…. and the mining companies too. Even GMO companies… pesticide pollution and all the environmental degradation companies.

[@praveenjain262]

The situation in pakistan is because of sheer corruption in Pak army, their generaly builds their own wealth from the money they receive for environment and other related use.

[@nathanngumi8467]

Climate change reparations is an interesting and complicated issue. It is difficult to pinpoint exactly who is responsible for what when - temperature and sea level rise, floods, wildfires, hurricanes, etc. Another option is for the UN to require all countries to contribute a certain % of their national budgets say 10% to the fund for combating climate change.

[@shkh569]

It’s not difficult to pinpoint when you realize that majority of it is just fossil fuel emissions.

[@vhuhwavhonengovhela]

I'm a geographer and an environmental activist, but most of the ideas being discussed, I'd never take as a leader of a country.

[@nazimjones4573]

they should set up a bill that makes all the countries that have the highest pollution and make them split the bills of any damages cause by climate change to less develop countries by percentage. example: if america does 40% of global pollution and china does 40% then they pay 40% each of the damages caused. this will make them bring down the amount they pollute

[@grahamt5924]

We need the energy just to survive. We can't stop polluting

[@KarlosEPM]

@@grahamt5924 Very enlightened observation. All we can do is reduce consumption of luxuries (products from afar, excessive leisure travelling, overall consumerism of disposable products).

[@grahamt5924]

@Carlos P. I agree that we need to do all we can to stop messing up the environment. However, for most of us, we are just surviving. Most of my money goes on essentials, and I know I am fairly typical for someone in the developed world.

[@veloboy1]

Allow all people who wish for a fresh start in life to actively help by putting their hands in the dirt, instead of charging volunteers from the west 2000 euro's for a STAGED. 3 week volunteering job.

[@veloboy1]

I mean.. it possible! i will lose my home if i do so In the middle of a housing crisis, where there's plenty of students, expats and refugee's that would love to stay in my home for a year+

[@zerowastehomestead2518]

Very difficult thing to do with so many issues involved. I'm from Canada and we have homeless people everywhere, kids with no food in school and people dying on waiting lists for medical treatment. why is that not fixed? How do you make sure there is no corruption with the money? If an area is sinking every year giving it money wont stop the sinking, the solution is to help them move. Let's say they give a billion dollars to a country that has hundreds of textile companies dumping chemicals into the water supply. is the money going to come with a clause that says " ok you can have the money providing your textile companies are shut down or modified to not dump the chemicals? how do they choose or what things have to be fixed first?

[@tezzo55]

In translation this means the dodgy corrupt international elite is creating yet another means of extracting money from the western former middle class, that is every people. And, of course, the fund will be pilfered, just like the EU and SBF pilfered the monies they got from everyday people. And if the real people of Africa actually think they'll get any of this money they are heartbreakingly mistaken.

[@shkh569]

You enable strict reporting requirements on carbon emissions as a prerequisite. Btw are you saying that rich countries are actually poor and the gdp numbers are all inflated probably just like your perception of emission statistics in your country 😄😄

[@Never_again_against_anyone]

And how shall such reparations work to get majorities in favor of them in the industrialized countries? It is not as if there would only those making their money from pollution against it. And those still thinking climate change to not be too bad. Or neglecting it. As the documentary hints you will also have many of relatively poor against it, because they are scared that conditions worsen for them due to such payments. And last but not least I would expect quite a bunch of the people with an ecofriendly, low emission lifestyle against it, because they have no interest in paying for the damages caused far more by others. It is an almost impossible sell, indeed.

[@Elementalism.]

Maybe lets worry about who should pay what based on their historical emissions... when we are at a point where we have stabilized the climate, when it isn't actively getting worse, and when we are not in an all hands on deck situation? Right now, anyone who can pay, should pay. especially if they are currently contributing massively to the climate, regardless of per capita or whatever.

[@hansarimond8901]

Wer bezahlt? Angela Merkel würde jetzt vermutlich sagen: „wir schaffen das“! 😂

[@thespalek1]

And this is it. In my oppinion the climate WILL change and maybe it's time to stop hypocrytically wasting money on battery cars and start preparing for the aftermath....😒

[@KarlosEPM]

Spoken like a true prepper. Mad Max would be so proud.

[@georgeburns8447]

Oh man! With all of this global warming going on, I'm going to freeze to death! It's like 5 degrees here in New York. I sure hope this global warming ends soon.

[@abhijit184]

The Earth is fighting back.

[@Holy_Frijole]

[8:53] yes make the companies pay too. Not just the citizens.

[@Kiyoone]

citizens should not pay for shi*. WTF? We know that those "responsible leaders" will not use that money for any good.

[@wheelfree]

Anyone who uses electricity and fuel for transportation should pay climate taxes. And the collected fund should be used on clean energy infrastructure projects and r&d into clean energy. It is stupid and illogical of gov to subsidise energy use in this new sustainability economy, but then popular policies attract votes.

[@tezzo55]

In translation this means the dodgy corrupt international elite is creating yet another means of extracting money from the western former middle class, that is every people. And, of course, the fund will be pilfered, just like the EU and SBF pilfered the monies they got from everyday people. And if the real people of Africa actually think they'll get any of this money they are heartbreakingly mistaken.

[@KarlosEPM]

Agree. It's just like taxing tobacco and alcohol and using that money to ameliorate the health care burden that they produce. A fellow cyclist here 😬

[@Kenjouille]

How and why rich Forbes should pay up.

[@scottdavis3571]

Yes. Richer countries should pay for all damages related to the affects of climate change.

[@reud_6476]

Personaly I think it would be better if rich countries first make all grids as green as possible, instead of wasting that same money and time on the (re)constructing in/of porrer countries. That because constructing things isn't 'green' (yet), and certainly not without a green electrical grid. When you take a loan for exemple, you don't give it back if you had not yet time to invest nor to gain enough money from your investment to pay it. (I only mean to justify they spend more resources on greening the world grid, not that too much money would be spend on themselves by doing so)

[@Kangaroo_Caught]

IMHO the history of donations to Covax show what will actually happen. Should Britain, the originators of the Industrial Revolution, be held responsible?

[@FAMEROB]

no reason to end the corruption and advance as a country then if there is free money

[@fleachamberlain1905]

What those two graphs tell me is that human population is a factor of environmental damage, as well as individual consumption habits. And like per capita consumption habits, over population habits are a choice and therefore a responsibility. So whether it is per capita consumption habits or over populating habits, almost all humans/countries are responsible for what is happening. Only those who aren't over populated and don't have high per capita consumption, can say they aren't responsible and can claim compensation.

[@shkh569]

Yes all are responsible but some are more than others. Just like we are born with equal qualities but some were born with a rich spoon whose ancestors were just much better in externalizing the climate cost of it to other nations. Common but differentiated responsibility.

[@patrickochieng1055]

Only a caveat. We also need to get a way of getting rid of corruption or institutionalising it then hopefully everybody can benefit from all the funds we get.

[@tezzo55]

In translation this means the dodgy corrupt international elite is creating yet another means of extracting money from the western former middle class, that is every people. And, of course, the fund will be pilfered, just like the EU and SBF pilfered the monies they got from everyday people. And if the real people of Africa actually think they'll get any of this money they are heartbreakingly mistaken.

[@Miss.ducharme]

They should be fining the company that pollute the most

[@oniongaming6815]

Good video

[@beniaminmarin1596]

That Vulcan ship better land soon

[@jochenzimmermann5774]

you might enjoy reading steven eriksons novel rejoice, a knife to the heart. [...]Imagine a First Contact without contact, and an alien arrival where no aliens show up. Imagine the sudden appearance of exclusion zones all over the planet, into which no humans are allowed. Imagine an end to all violence, from the school yard bully to nations at war. Imagine an end to borders, an end to all crime. Imagine a world where hate has no outlet and the only harm one can do is to oneself. On the day of First Contact, it won’t be about them. It will be about us.[...]

[@juliomudin6459]

These people always talk about how to make a difference in the world but their actions are louder than their words

[@drewski-qu3co]

This seems more about assigning blame than solving problems. If coal is bad then outlaw it, no body gets a pass.

[@sandrajones8245]

All of them, the rich country governments should pay some, the oil companies should pay some, they shouldn't ask for repayment with interest (that made me sick!) And they should forgive already burdensome loans. They love money too much, they're all greedy!

[@ElVecinoSebas]

And many of those rich people from oil industry have enough money for many life times. But the just want more. Yes, disgusting how they just let others pay them more than needed.

[@Dreinorh]

All these poor people in 3rd world countries have done nothing to deserve a ton of free money. All I see is greedy people wanting free money, using the climate as an excuse. It's sickening to see all these monkies being so hungry for other peoples money. Never give to beggers.

[@forpeen]

Noble intentions with a short-sighted solution. Reparations is not going to help the key problem of stopping and reversing climate change. Take that $80 billion fund and pump that money into a giant carbon sequestration project may sound dumb but even that will yield better long term results.

[@rabiukabir]

The developed nations have no option at least to save their priority (investment) of course! They are the major contributor to the global emissions and the only ones with the financial and technical capacity to do so!

[@anxiousearth680]

How charitable of the WHO. Problem solved.

[@tezzo55]

They were never as good after Kith Moon died!

[@user-cw2py6wh8l]

Western countries should pay reparation for climate damages and colonialism.

[@Matthew-yc6nx]

Because only the West has ever done these things right? Racist much?

[@Arpit.singh.]

UNFCCC has failed to realise its objectives

[@tslee8236]

How to pay? Levy 10% on all non-food purchases. The more you spend, the more you pay. When people are poorer, they consume less.😅 How to use the money? Now that's more controversial cos everyone wants a piece of it.

[@terabaap2050]

I feel we all are missing a big big source of money which can be redirected to vulnerable countries. The arms industry.. they test and pollute a lot.. this Ukraine war would have brought in so much money.. USA wud be paying the highest amount..

[@v.prestorpnrcrtlcrt2096]

I'm so tired of this kind of news. It's the same story over and over. And over

[@ALLI3802]

I can only see the world's end now. If nothing can stop it, I say let it rot and burn. People don't care anyway and big corporations and the people behind them always win. At least we burn together.

[@tyalikanky]

victorian england of course, we will raise them from the dead to produce power on bicycle engine

[@aposteriori421]

Completely disagree. It’s not about fairness, it’s about leverage.

[@Satopi3104]

Everyone blaming the fossil fuel companies in the comments are conveniently not mentioning that those companies would not exist if we, the consumer, did not buy their products. Unless you have lived your entire life completely off the grid, you have contributed to the climate crisis. Yes, it it is pretty difficult to live off grid so it’s not a moral railing on your part that your parents didn’t make that choice. But that doesn’t change the facts and we need to address the issue instead of trying to constantly blame someone else for it, since we cannot pass the buck forever. Unless you literally leave this planet, you will be affected by climate change. So stop playing the blame game and do something - speak with your vote and with your wallet. Those are the only voices we have as everyday citizens.

[@DWPlanetA]

You are right that many of us in one way or another contribute to climate change - more or less. However, the big fossil fuel producers and distributors are contributing a huge amount in relative terms, and some of them have done a very good job of dodging responsibility. We did a video on this 👇 ⛽"Why fossil fuel companies should be lawyering up" kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4e8q3udfd1ri5Y

[@DanrleyBrandao]

here I'm going to leave my comment on another video where they blamed us Brazilians as causing climate disgrace among other things, and also remembering that the richest countries are the ones that pollute the most and besides Germany and Norway that has an "Initiative with a background" Nobody Brazil pays more to maintain the Amazon but everyone says they need it ironic, right?

[@DanrleyBrandao]

these videos that serve to deceive the laity, in fact deforestation was higher in the previous governments of Lula and smaller in Bolsonaro's and again it was higher in Lula's government what happens is that, Bolsonaro wanted to explore the Amazon in an ecologically renewable way However, this would end up with some countries that would lose a lot of economic power compared to the products that could leave there, mainly Europe where most of the wood that is smuggled ends up in European countries, as in the Bolsonaro government, trackers were placed on wood that was being smuggled and they ended up discovering their European buyers, squid doesn't care about the amazon he wants the money that foreign countries will give as a way of "taking care" of it through these NGOs that do nothing more than serve as a post for smuggling these materials including gold that in French Guiana an extramarine territory of France is explored without any shame, all Brazilians who they are not alienated by these lies from NGOs they know the truth that foreign countries want to control the amazon so that in the future they can take the precious materials that are in it which, if used by brazil, could transform the country into the most powerful in the world, we have 80% a metal called niobium, and China already exploits a mine because of Lula's previous government, this material is extremely important and, if studied, can be used in several applications, such as more durable batteries, more resistant helmets, etc., these materials are used for aliens. people that we are bad that we don't take care of the forests etc but in fact which other country has a forest as preserved and alive as ours? they are passing the responsibility of taking care of the world to us but we don't even receive the right payment for it they say that we must live in poverty without economic development so that they squander how they can buy different things and the next day throw it away without caring about the environment or how many things were destroyed to make what they discard so easily, the sheer hypocrisy of such countries, Brazilians are already connected to this and will not let us no longer tolerate being slaves to countries that devastated their forests and now squander how they are profiting from their factories polluting the world and enjoying the good and the best while Brazil has to be their "lung" and the people live in poverty, if the elections were not stolen we would still have sovereignty over it but with this corrupt thief possibly he will hand over to foreigners our amazonia and when that happens the people will rise up and there will be a war 10x worse than vietnam where whoever enters alive in the forest he left dead in a coffin.

[@DanrleyBrandao]

Another problem with the Amazon is the investments of other countries, the Amazon has a lot of precious stones, water and a great biodiversity (as one of the main materials to make Channel N°. 5 was a leaf that was highly explored. The chance of this financial aid in favor of biodiversity being a mask for financial interests in the future for exploration are great, even more in relation to the water that will end one day. There are other areas in Brasil and other countries with unique biomes and also a lot of biodiversity, but these countries do not appear to link with the loss of other forests and animals, but they care about the one that have gold and a lot of water, this is really weird and suspect.The Amazon must be preserved and the local economy should be supported by ecotourism with a lot of supervision. Nobody in that history is the good guy!!

[@m.e.345]

Rich countries should eliminate their carbon emissions and help poor countries eliminate theirs also.. that alone would be fantastic and is probably too much to hope for.

[@user-cw2py6wh8l]

Brazil will paid for destroying rain forest.

[@Kiyoone]

🤣😂😪

[@neneklampir6664]

Did you pay for their O2?

[@bigbadborders]

change that rich countries to rich people, it is the rich and big business who have done all the damage, not regular people.

[@KarlosEPM]

Yeap. So true.

[@John_Smith_86]

Just let those who cannot survive die.

[@edgamueta3179]

Revelation 11:18 But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time came for the dead to be judged and to reward your slaves the prophets and the holy ones and those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.”

[@kimberleypex]

Rich people could be filantropisch ?

[@vthilton]

Save Our Planet - Science

[@xTexnarelx]

Pay the ecological debt and not the external debt.

[@thescotlandeffect3454]

Just a reminder that Scotland brought this up at cop26 and paid a small contribution of several million pounds party to try get other countries to do the same, none did.

[@fueu2617]

This situation is absurd and utterly illogical. There is abundant source of geothermal energy right beneath our feet, yet our focus remains disproportionately on carbon-related problems. Instead of complaining, let's redirect our resources towards researching and harnessing geothermal energy. If we can explore deep space and develop nuclear technology, tapping into our own geothermal resources for free energy should be well within our capabilities. HaHa you fool!

[@DWPlanetA]

Please check out our video "Geothermal energy is renewable and powerful. Why is most of it untapped?" here 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWjHqmOeir9srqs. 🔥

[@fueu2617]

​@@DWPlanetA Absolutely, you're correct! The entire situation seems questionable. It's puzzling that we possess readily available geothermal energy and aren't taking advantage of it. Why?

[@sandrajones8245]

@ 3:53 it highlights China and India as countries that have suffered from the adverse effects of climate change. I don't want to be the blamer but I think they have been inflicting as much damage to the climate as other big countries. I only took a glance but I'm sure Indonesia and Japan were on the sufferers list, yet they have been responsible for inflicting. I think that suffering/inflicting list needs revision.

[@shayan_idk]

india and china absolutely should not be on the inflicting list. you're suggesting punishing them for having a large population while giving a huge pass to massive polluting yet small population countries like canada and the US who are incredibly wasteful for no reasonable purpose

[@sandrajones8245]

@shayan_idk Well, firstly, India and China should be on the list of countries that pay to repair countries that suffer from extreme climate change, because whether they like it or not, they 1. Are causing a massive climate change 2. They have the money to be able to afford to pay for their mistakes. I never gave a pass to The USA or Canada, definitely not the US which come 3rd in overall population and would be up there in adverse climate change, but they export their manufacturing to the countries of India and China. 🤔 I don't remember seeing Canada on any of the lists, and I didn't mention them. If anything, the Arab states should hold some responsibility. The fossil fuel companies should definitely take a big piece of the pie, and they shouldn't increase their prices either (same for the countries and taxes) because that's what they'll do, they'll just hike up prices, reimburse the countries that are suffering a little and pocket the surplus, then carry on polluting the environment. Guarantee if they make them pay whilst keeping prices and employee wages the same, they'll think twice before using a cargo ship which pollutes heavily. I will say though some things are necessary, and although ships cause the most pollution they also keep the world functioning. They could use green energy, solar and wind but I'm not sure if it will generate enough power to have mangoes be delivered everyday, like now.

[@user-cw2py6wh8l]

China and India are at the bottom of the polluter list per capita. 1:50

[@user-cw2py6wh8l]

@@sandrajones8245 "I don't remember seeing Canada on any of the lists" 1:50 I guess you didn't watch the video. Canada is #2 on the list of polluter per capita.

[@manubhatt3]

You are totally ignoring historic emissions. After all, India and China wouldn't have been inflicting so much damage now if the CO2 levels weren't already so high. Also, per capita emissions are a much more better metric, as total emissions tend to unjustly punish large poor countries while unjustly benefitting small rich countries.

[@CurtisCT]

What an utterly foolish premise on which to base a documentary! Yes, rich industrial countries caused the most historical emissions, but rich industrial countries also invented the science, technology and medicines that have VASTLY improved the lives of their own populations as well as those of poor countries. The historical efforts of rich industrial countries have lifted billions out of poverty, brought education and life-saving medical sciences to billions more, as well as enabled billions around the world to have access to modern technologies and conveniences. EVERYONE has benefited TREMENDOUSLY from the efforts and labors of rich, industrial countries. So now rich industrial countries are supposed to "compensate" poor countries for their suffering?? First of all, there's NO PROOF whatsoever that climate catastrophes are caused by the historical emissions of rich industrial countries from the 19th and 18th centuries. Secondly, it's the technology and efforts of rich, industrialized countries that are solving the climate crisis and reducing emissions - for ALL of us.

[@Kiyoone]

If they did the TAX thing right, and used the money for the development instead of making profits, maybe, BUT we know that human nature is stupid and corrupt.

[@neneklampir6664]

this is silly

[@DanrleyBrandao]

(contains irony) I agree with you, being a Brazilian citizen I would very much like my country to make a dome and place it throughout the territory, preventing pollution from other countries from invading ours so that we would have peace to stay with the rest of the world after they suffocated to death in their own pollution and self-centeredness

[@NawelLounis-fb7pk]

Cc flo

[@vasilismarkandonis9435]

It is impossible to count exactly and with justice whose fault is every disaster and how they must share the bill. Also this is not a solution to the problem. You will continue to emit CO2 and pay the impact. They did not agree on how to stop that vicious cycle

[@leinahtaniglesias_14]

Humans were praying for water sometimes God gave them so much of it the unpredictable weather 😄