Climbing alone, BUT SAFE - Top Rope Solo with Petzl Shunt + Petzl Ascender

[@jacobmcfarlane833]

Just so people are aware there have been a couple of really high profile accidents involving shunts for top rope soloing (see the most recent event at red river gorge where the shunt was disconnected from the rope). While ripperkon is using a backup here, it's probably worth exploring using a device that is not shunt for TRS with an additional backup.

[@ripperkon]

Thank you for the comment. This is indeed important to know. Backup is mandatory. I started trying the Taz Lov 3. It feels promising.

[@AZDesertExplorer]

Awesome video yet again brother! Thanks for putting out great stuff!

[@danielmilka1212]

Thank You 😊 Greething From Poland.

[@stuff2climb102]

Such a cool set up! I'm going to test this out!

[@stuff2climb102]

Update; I've tested it out, and love it! It's revolutionized how I do my beta stuff videos! Thanks for the tip.

[@ripperkon]

Thx 🙏🏻 Just make sure to never use the shunt without a backup ;)

[@jansveen]

This really seems like an excellent set up. I'm using a clog and prusik, but the prusiks is a bit irritating. I'll consider this one. Shunts has a bad rep, but used in the right way, it looks safe as anything else.

[@sebastiankriegerow4747]

Danke für dein Video, du machst das gut.

[@Lanki80]

Ich selber benutze fürs Toprope Solo klettern eine Kong Duck und ein Ropman 2. Fakt ist, man darf definitiv nicht mehrere Meter in Seil fallen da die Steigklemmen für solche Stürze nicht gemacht sind und das Seil irgendwann reißen könnte, aber tief stürzen ist beim Toprope Klettern nicht gegeben. Sehr interessant fand ich aber deine Sicherungscombo für das klettern am niedrigeren Fels, da man viel schneller sich wieder abseilen kann - das Petzel Shunt bleibt ja immer im Seil, so muss man nur noch die redundante Steigklemme gegen ein Abseilgerät austauschen. Gerade an meinem Hausfels von 8 m Höhe muss ich diese Technik unbedingt mal ausprobieren. Danke fürs zeigen des anschaulich gemachte Video. LG, Christian

[@ripperkon]

Das klingt auch nach einem coolen Setup. Das Kong Duck hatte ich auch schon öfter im Blick. Und du nutzt dann auch einen Brustgurt oder so, um das zweite Gerät oben zu halten? Ich denke für so niedrige Felsen wird das TAZ LOV2 oder LOV3 dann auch noch sehr interessant sein. Ich schätze mal, dass ich das in Zukunft auch noch mal mehr anschauen werde. Vor allem das LOV3, weil das von den Normen mehr abdeckt bzw. wohl auch mit dünneren Seilen klarkommt (

[@sergeantcrow]

The one activity I use the Shunt for... Top Roping. I keep Shunt high and a third hand above the Shunt..

[@ripperkon]

Does the shunt work well like that? With the shape of it I was worried, that the third hand (a Prusik like hitch?) could slide into the device and causes a fatal failure.

[@sergeantcrow]

@@ripperkon Hi.. Oh ! You are far more experienced than me.. I should say I use Shunt Chest high and the third hand Head high... on an extension.. That's mostly on easy climbs where it is easy to keep raising both.. However I learn from You.. and others.. ( Thank you for your contribution..) and will review everyone I can on here.. Then adapt.. I hope all is going well for you.. : )

[@sergeantcrow]

@@ripperkon Wow.. Your channel ! Amazing.. Ex Military... German... Subbed.. : ) I like wild camping... only here in Ireland.. It's small.. and 104K Well done, congratulations.. I have 14 on my camping channel.. : )

[@Bikalakat]

Thanks for the video! I dont quite get how or why the shunt doesnt work with two ropes.... It certanly does if both ropes are loaded, I dont really get why it doesnt if one is loose... Eh, I'll try it out :D (yesterday my setup was, that I put my rope through the anker, both sides were hangin down, and I used a shunt for both, and as a backup I just put a prusik on. I didnt have big falls, but it caught me, when I slipped. Although I have to say, on two ropes, and with a thicker rope, it didnt really come on its own, I always had to help the shunt to follow me.

[@golopeters1152]

Thank you for your insights. Have you heard of or even tested the camp goblin. And do you have a opinion about the device? Thanks

[@ripperkon]

Sadly I haven't tested the Goblin. But I think that's maybe because in the beginning it was important for me to use ropes thinner than 9mm.

[@golopeters1152]

@@ripperkon hi, I did test the goblin now at ith a climbing spot in northern Germany. Works super well. I used a teufelberger superstatic (11 mm I think). Unfortunately the redundancy with a petzl basic or a prusik did not work properly. But I will try a klemmheist or schwäbisvh prusik next time. But your gearsetup looks superwell

[@phasespace4700]

@@golopeters1152 What was the issue with goblin and Petzl basic as a backup (maybe on a dogbone to keep it separated)? It looks like it should work beautifully.

[@golopeters1152]

I think that was the issue. It wasn't separated. But did not have the time to try it again.

[@Tommy-jc6bk]

Question: did the shunt ever failed?

[@ripperkon]

Not when I was using it. But I seems like there have been several fatal fails. And some of these people did not use a second device as a backup… Petzl even made a post about that topic some weeks or months ago.

[@wernerredweik6198]

Attention: the SHUNT DOES NOT ALWAYS BLOCK when the rope is fixed over a roof and you are climbing under the roof and fall. Happened to a friend. The jümar till now has never failed.

[@ripperkon]

Yes, that’s right. This is why I added the jumar. I even had the jumar fail, when ice build up inside.

[@jerryj3047]

awesome man, u should try Czech sand rocks

[@ripperkon]

Thx. I am not sure if I like sand rocks. Knots as protection and sandy fingers are kind of strange. But maybe because I am just not used to it :D I think I will try the 'Elbsandstein' area here in Germany at first.

[@Rockybeach31]

Haben die Karabiner einen besonderen Vorteil?

[@ripperkon]

Die verdrehen sich nicht. So ist eine Querbelastung nahezu, wenn nicht sogar ganz, ausgeschlossen. Und der Verschluss ist auch mit dicken Handschuhen oder erschöpften Fingern einfach zu öffnen (deutlich einfacher als der Slider-Autolock oder Trilock). Anderer Vorteil ist, dass man beide Seiten jeweils einzeln öffnen kann. So kann das, was auf der einen Seite ist, nicht rausrutschen, wenn man die andere Seite öffnet. Wobei die anderen beiden Vorteile überwiegen. Alternativ hatte ich bei einem Trilock Karabiner ein Petzl Tanga Ring benutzt, dass der Karabiner sich im Shunt nicht verdrehen kann.

[@Tommy-jc6bk]

I use a shunt and a microtraxion for backup: quite similar

[@prepperskaszubysurvivalbus2043]

👍👍👍

[@ZebulonJakub]

Often i use the shunt but rather than clipping in…. Use 8 or 9 mm cord and tie the shunt into tie in points….. then w good measurements extra cord can be used as a chest harness to pull it up hands free

[@ripperkon]

That's a cool idea. I think I will also try this one day. But now I will at first see what the TAZ LOV3 can do.

[@escaladaseguraamimanera3621]

thanks for the video, i also do soloin

[@devinciification]

I use 2 Ropeman 2 for ice climbing. I tie backup knots and clip them with a quickdraw to prevent the knot from slipping. Any reason you use this setup over the double Ropeman 2?

[@ripperkon]

Sounds also nice. What knots do you use as a backup knot? I still like the double ropeman2 setup with two ropes. But since I started to do more multi pitch rope solo (with one rope) I prefer this setup. And with thicker ropes the ropeman2 has a bit more friction then the Petzl ascender and Petzl Shunt. So generating slack in the system is more likely.

[@devinciification]

@@ripperkon cool! I just use overhand on a bight and clip the loop.

[@ripperkon]

@@devinciification Ah, okay. Thx for the answer. I heard some people are using slip knots. But I am not sure, if I would trust them ....

[@devinciification]

I forgot to ask: have you ever encounter freezing problems with the ropeman 2 while ice climbing? I use dry rope of course

[@ripperkon]

@@devinciification I also use dry ropes. Never had a problem or malfunction with the ropeman2. But it's friction is higher than the ascender for example. Did you have any problems with it so far?

[@grzegorzduda5648]

Scorpion tail on the SHUNT and You are pop out off the rope and You die.

[@ripperkon]

… if you use the shunt standalone ☝🏻

[@as3fawf]

Alter der Shunt hat da nichts verloren. Wenn du schon ein Video machen musst dann nimm eins der x anderen geräte, die nicht so leicht tödlich enden! Niemand hat was von dem Video außer 11k falsch informierte einen nachteil.

[@ripperkon]

Ich hab ein zusätzliches Gerät darunter. Ich hoffe ich hab im Video klar genug gemacht, dass man das shunt nicht einzeln nutzen sollte. Und genau das wollte ich auch rüberbringen. Aber danke für deine Anmerkung.

[@salamandersmith]

This is a terrible set up.