CLIP: Fake Scholar (Javad Hashmi) gets destroyed by Dr. Shadee ElMasry

Fake Muslim (Javad Hashmi) gets destroyed by Dr. Shadee ElMasry
Full debate can be watched here @ Br. Mukeet's channel:
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[@BazDawah]

Full debate on Br. Mukeet's channel: youtube.com/@mukeetkhan1810

[@zyzzyx3160]

Not there.

[@omermirza3210]

[A/I`mran 3:85] And if one seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted from him; and he is among the losers in the Hereafter.

[@fatumasiraj3988]

This how it feels to be bullied intellectually 😢😢

[@charliefoxtrotter]

maybe shadee didn't realize he's debating a rank unlettered khomeinist

[@issaalfaransi5263]

Javed is a joke 😅

[@unhingedconnoisseur164]

Quran 4:150-151 “ Indeed, those who disbelieve in Allah and His messengers and wish to discriminate between Allah and His messengers and say, "We believe in some and disbelieve in others," and wish to adopt a way in between - Those are the disbelievers, truly. And We have prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating punishment. “

[@iiddrrii6051]

Respect people of knowledge and who seek knowledge.

[@o2xb]

Well said Dr el Masry, its quite simple really!

[@thestraightpath8236]

الْحَمْدُ للَّهِ رَبِّ الْعَـلَمِينَ FOR ISLAM الْحَمْدُ للَّهِ رَبِّ الْعَـلَمِينَ FOR MAKING US FROM THE BLESSED UMMAH OF THE BEST OF A CREATION, AL-SADIQ, AL-AMEEN, JADDAL HUSSAIN, RAHMAT-UL-LIL-'AALAMEEN, RASOOL-ALLSH ﷺ

[@why3579]

Never trust “those” who keep saying they’re ex muslims😂😂😂 its always them

[@ottopotatum5775]

Javed is a muslim

[@Gog3453]

Adhering too the minhaj (Islam Iman and Ihsan)of the Salaf will give you the ability to slam a deviant every time 😂🤣

[@momonasri8611]

These perennials are popping up lately

[@aquadistant]

Aal-e-Imran 3:70 ‎يَٰٓأَهۡلَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ لِمَ تَكۡفُرُونَ بِـَٔايَٰتِ ٱللَّهِ وَأَنتُمۡ تَشۡهَدُونَ O people of the Book, why do you disbelieve in the verses of Allah while you are yourselves witnesses? Aal-e-Imran 3:71 ‎يَٰٓأَهۡلَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ لِمَ تَلۡبِسُونَ ٱلۡحَقَّ بِٱلۡبَٰطِلِ وَتَكۡتُمُونَ ٱلۡحَقَّ وَأَنتُمۡ تَعۡلَمُونَ O People of the Book, why do you confound the truth with falsehood, and conceal the truth when you know? Aal-e-Imran 3:98 ‎قُلۡ يَٰٓأَهۡلَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ لِمَ تَكۡفُرُونَ بِـَٔايَٰتِ ٱللَّهِ وَٱللَّهُ شَهِيدٌ عَلَىٰ مَا تَعۡمَلُونَ Say, “O people of the Book, why do you reject the verses of Allah while Allah is witness to what you do?” Aal-e-Imran 3:110 ‎كُنتُمۡ خَيۡرَ أُمَّةٍ أُخۡرِجَتۡ لِلنَّاسِ تَأۡمُرُونَ بِٱلۡمَعۡرُوفِ وَتَنۡهَوۡنَ عَنِ ٱلۡمُنكَرِ وَتُؤۡمِنُونَ بِٱللَّهِۗ وَلَوۡ ءَامَنَ أَهۡلُ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ لَكَانَ خَيۡرًا لَّهُمۚ مِّنۡهُمُ ٱلۡمُؤۡمِنُونَ وَأَكۡثَرُهُمُ ٱلۡفَٰسِقُونَ You are the best ‘Ummah ever raised for mankind. You bid the Fair and forbid the Unfair, and you believe in Allah. *If the people of the Book had believed, it would have been better for them.* Among them, there are believers, while most of them are sinners. An-Nisa' 4:171 ‎يَٰٓأَهۡلَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ لَا تَغۡلُواْ فِى دِينِكُمۡ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ إِلَّا ٱلۡحَقَّۚ إِنَّمَا ٱلۡمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ رَسُولُ ٱللَّهِ وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ أَلۡقَىٰهَآ إِلَىٰ مَرۡيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِّنۡهُۖ فَـَٔامِنُواْ بِٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦۖ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ ثَلَٰثَةٌۚ ٱنتَهُواْ خَيۡرًا لَّكُمْۚ إِنَّمَا ٱللَّهُ إِلَٰهٌ وَٰحِدٌۖ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥٓ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٌۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِى ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَمَا فِى ٱلۡأَرۡضِۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِٱللَّهِ وَكِيلًا O people of the Book, be not excessive in your Faith, and do not say about Allah anything but the truth.The MasīH ‘Īsā, the son of Maryam, is only a Messenger of Allah, and His Word that He had delivered to Maryam, and a spirit from Him. So, believe in Allah and His Messengers. Do not say “Three”. Stop it. That is good for you. Allah is the only One God. He is far too pure to have a son. To Him belongs what is in the heavens and what is in the earth. And Allah is enough to trust in. At-Taubah 9:30 وَقَالَتِ ٱلۡيَهُودُ عُزَيۡرٌ ٱبۡنُ ٱللَّهِ وَقَالَتِ ٱلنَّصَٰرَى ٱلۡمَسِيحُ ٱبۡنُ ٱللَّهِۖ ذَٰلِكَ قَوۡلُهُم بِأَفۡوَٰهِهِمْۖ يُضَٰهِـُٔونَ قَوۡلَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ مِن قَبۡلُۚ قَٰتَلَهُمُ ٱللَّهُۚ أَنَّىٰ يُؤۡفَكُونَ The Jews say, “ ‘Uzair (Ezra) is the Son of Allah” and the Christians say, “MasīH (the Christ) is the Son of Allah.” That is their oral statement. They imitate the saying of the earlier disbelievers. May Allah ruin them, *how far they are turned back from the truth!*

[@erwinsmith5381]

اللهم صل وسلم على سيدنا محمد وعلى آله وصحبه وسلم

[@mdkhan3928]

No brainer!😎💓☝️👌👍

[@HH-pv9ex]

Javad hasn't done his homework at all. Jeremiah 8:8 ’How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?

[@basedmuslimbooks]

Ach, JaFED lost yet again, like all the others who spoke against Allah.

[@renlamomtsopoe]

You lost

[@plastic9990]

It’s interesting that the scholar with the turban doesn’t seem to be a hafiz, otherwise he would be able to read off the relevant Quran verses in Arabic and give the translation in English!? I may be wrong. 🇵🇰❤️🇵🇰

[@saleemkhokhar3458]

BRO CANT EVEN DEBATE DR SHADEE AND DANIEL, SAD!!!!

[@wongprakosa6803]

If Pharao repented that time, Allah forgave his sins, right? So, we say Pharao believed in God (of Moses) and did good. Pharao did not know what Torah was because not available yet. When Allah gave Torah, it is for Bani Israel, not Pharao. Or, if Pharao repented ,then will he and egyptians share Torah with Bani Israil? But the fact is, after Pharao was drowned to death, Moses left egypt and had no obligation to teach torah to them. Right? Egyptians continued their lives with their old religion, of course.

[@MPM_News]

God also says in the Quran that Muslims too can be susceptible to corrupting verses

[@vfxcyber425]

where it says that?

[@MohamedShou]

Interesting where does it say that?

[@justCommando]

I would think logically that by obeying and following the guidance of the Quran, you are following the true part of the Torah and the gospels.The Quran is the book that claims to be from God, and it's up to us to read it and find God. The Quran speaks from the perspective of God, not from the perspective of man talking to man. The rest of the religion outside of the Quran is simply made up by people and propped up as laws to obey. Law is from the Quran. If the Quran permits something, then forbidding it is going against the Quran and if the Quran forbids something, then permitting it is going against the Quran. The Quran comes with clear language and words, I often find that widely accepted Quran translations are not actually translations, but the interpretations of the translater inserted and disguised as a "translation". Learn some Arabic and you'll know.

[@aquadistant]

So would you say you agree or disagree with hashmi’s stance?

[@JKD67]

so you say that rejecting the hadeeth and only following the Quran without the hadeeth's interpretations is suffice, then answer how do you know the exact number of Raka'at of each prayer? and how do you know when to sit, stand or what do you say during the prayer?

[@aquadistant]

@@JKD67 they don’t 🤷‍♀️, better to ask them why allah said for the believers to return to allah and his messenger if there’s a dispute in Surat an nisa. If the Quran was enough, then why was the Quran not even enough for the Muslims during the time of the prophet (saws)? if the Quran was enough allah wouldn’t tell them to settle it with the messenger (saws).

[@MualafCentral]

is that JaFed?

[@thetruth27786]

We love javad,islam abrogate torah ,hadeeth cant abrogate torah

[@tiktokasylum5186]

Had his part of Islam you Jahil

[@kamranemin5356]

You love an apostate fed?

[@thetruth27786]

We love the impactful scholar .......❤

[@momonasri8611]

Why? If I may ask

[@seeker833]

You love a mushrik?

[@iiddrrii6051]

He’s honest and a man who seeks and loves knowledge. Don’t hate on him just if you don’t agree

[@babahadjimohamed9339]

@@iiddrrii6051 Yes, from someone who cannot even read the Quran, and who has a clear project , may Allah guide you

[@iiddrrii6051]

@@babahadjimohamed9339 It's not Islamic to talk about people negatively behind their back. You don't know the brother, instead of assuming, why don't you learn more about his work? What evidence do you have that he "cannot read the Quran"? It's haram to lie and slander Muslims.

[@vahidindonlic7012]

destroyed?

[@SharpKnife523]

Who is a scholar and who is not should be decided by the listeners not you. Not sure where people get this authority from. Your job is to refute what was said by someone instead of being judgmental about people's scholarship. Allah never made anyone guardian of Islam.

[@pingu.3712]

he is not a scholar. he studied islam from harvard

[@SharpKnife523]

@@pingu.3712 who cares? Before the last century, majority of the scholars studied at his/her or someone else's home without going to a college.

[@AB-et6nj]

Islam says it affirms the past books and also updates them, and that if there are inconsistencies between the books and the Quran then it's because those books were corrupted. First of all, God never gave Jesus the gospels ("injeel"). Even Christians know that the four books of the gospels were written decades after Jesus. So it makes no sense to say God gave Jesus the gospels. And it makes no sense to even mention the "holy spirit" which the Quran does mention as legitimate. These things indicate to me that Muhammad had some knowledge of Christianity but it was extremely general. Second of all, any person can come and say whatever is in my book is the CORRECT version of things, and everything that disagrees with my book was simply corrupted. So this proves absolutely nothing. I think the fact that the Quran borrows ideas specifically from Jewish and Christians sects in 7th century Arabia is telling of it being a product of its time, and it is very ignorant about a lot of important points in Judaism from its foundations. Again, indicating to me that Muhammad had a very general and passive knowledge of the scriptures. For example, there is almost no mention of heaven or hell or even the devil in Judaism, which you would think God would have mentioned given how important those things are. It would be a tall order for a Muslim apologist to come along and simply argue all of these things were deletions, inventions, or corruptions when they have no basis for saying so except to say that the Quran says so. I could just as equally say the Quran is inventions and corruptions. Is it more likely that an all-knowing creator would send various "books" and have various laws sent down and frequently change those books and laws from time to time, or is it more likely that some human came along and claimed that God gave him the updated and correct version, which just so happens to be very different than what came before?

[@I---truth-seeker---I]

javed is nothing but self promoting little but believes as a big scholar

[@FortheloveofGod07]

Because these guy just buried the sheikhs saying the bible isn't corrupt haha😂

[@haroon420]

What you’ll find is that the event took place at UCLA. Not in a madrassa. Here the ranking member is Dr Javad Hashmi (PhD). Here he is the scholar. Not Shadee. Shadee was on his turf. Decorum suggests you respect the host and his credentials. If the debate ever takes place in madrassa, the ranking member can be Shadee.

[@Oo786oO]

Let's have decorum with people on God's earth and show the utmost disrespect to God by attributing things to Him that go against even mere human logic

[@mz4987]

False. Hashmi is a hack

[@haroon420]

@@mz4987 why is Shadee debating hacks for? 🫠

[@cruzguerrero7992]

They are both slightly wrong. There is a middle ground that is the obvious interpretation upon first reading. The Quran doesn't say that People of the book can't achieve salvation, its just that salvation is not a certainty for them. Islam as per Quran and Sunnah or Prophet Muhammad Pbuh is the best way, I agree. The average jew and christian who are unaware of the true teachings of Islam dont reject out of active rebellion, they do it out of ignorance. From anecdotal evidence I can tell you that most layman christians I've come across dont believe in the trinity even though they are taught to repeat the doctrine and it is almost impossible for most of them to explore other religions outside of a few Christian denominations due to lack of accessibility and resources.

[@nazifahamid6587]

Not believing in the prophet muhammad peace be upon him even after evidence is clear to them make them disbelievers and no way can they achieve salvation. Believing in the Prophet is fundamental.

[@obaidulhaque7687]

Fuzzy line 😢!! Nope ; 11 ayat told no miracle in birth; all human born from zygote ( male and female gamete ) ; if jesus was special Allah must not forget to mention it ….

[@stormmaashrooms]

our father adam was not born from gametes, what’s your point…

[@AereForst]

Surah Maryam v16-21, makes it patently clear that Jesus was born of miraculous birth. You obviously don’t know basic Islamic teaching

[@esehakseid7317]

Even Dr Elmassary admitted Javad is on something important like the beginning of a new religion or something the point is the new generation will either exit Islam or think critically

[@kungfufreak360]

Muslims have been thinking critically for a thousand years. Trying to make westerners happy isn’t thinking critically

[@celestialknight2339]

@@kungfufreak360 What foods are Haram according to Islam?

[@jj-yi1ne]

@@celestialknight2339 stop asking questions and enlighten us with your beliefs

[@celestialknight2339]

@@jj-yi1ne My beliefs are following the Qur’an, even when tradition says otherwise. So the food example-when the Qur’an says ONLY 4 things are Haram for us (carrion, blood, pig’s meat, and idol-sacrificed foods)-then it doesn’t matter how many ‘authentic Ahadith’ you have which say that donkey meat, tiger meat, monkeys, and other animals are forbidden as well. If it contradicts the teachings, or clashes with the spirit of the Qur’an, then we should not accept it. And sadly, our religion has been infected with a lot of false traditions and practices, which have only caused confusion, doubt, apostasy, enmity between us-and above all-disobeying the words of our Lord in the Qur’an, which is the ultimate & supreme Hadith (Qur’an 39:23). Salam.

[@jj-yi1ne]

@@celestialknight2339 quran doesnt say anything its you saying those things

[@bobbycalifornia7077]

Almasri got owned. He couldn’t address the claims directly.

[@nazifahamid6587]

Lmao. Get off drugs bro.

[@satchitannands36]

Another possibility is that even Islam itself could be false ! Muhammad & co manufactured this religion - but has accidental, useful/beneficial aspects to it. The fact that the Quran contains many contradicting & confusing verses about Jews & Christians makes it impossible to draw any unanimous conclusion among Muslims themselves. Dr.Javad Hashmi is not stupid or ignorant. He is using his mind at best, but these built-in confusing & contradictory verses of Quran and hadiths and history and realities of the world makes it almost impossible to finalise a sensible logical idea about what exactly muslim god Allah mean by many of the verses. Btw- Trinity in the Quran is wrong, too - Allah, Jesus & Mary. How about that ?

[@MichiganTroopers123]

What an abysmally incorrect comment. Go educate yourself before making such statements

[@rolladoo6121]

Bro he actually cooked this Muslim dude wytb ?! 😂😂 you showed 3 mins you should see the whole thing he fries Dr. Slim Shadeey 😭

[@nazifahamid6587]

It might seem that way only to absolute ignorants with 0 knowledge of islam

[@ponponzooubevmaleon8924]

You guys and this shadee you are not ashamed of yourself this was burial of this shadee and Islam on this debate how can u cut a shor second clip and say this shadee did destroy javad in this debate u are not ashamed real you people here go follow the whole debate and see for yourself how Muslim are being destroyed in this debate

[@Re-Destro]

Mufti Abu Layth destroyed Shadee.

[@mz4987]

No he didn’t. Keep lying. Abu layth was arrested for possession of child p 0rn.

[@imranharith8936]

Which video?

[@benjamingraden9026]

Dude I watched this whole debate, not just 3 minutes of it. This was the most intelligent thing your guy said the whole debate. Your “fake scholar” actually destroyed your guy! This is so deceptive! Put up the entire 3 hour debate! If you don’t you are false

[@yahia1000]

Yea he follows reason and logic not tradition

[@bhavinmehta1490]

Dr. Hashmi is very well versed, educated in Islamic traditions of more than one sort, from Harvard University. Shadee is unfortunately biased towards an orthodox religious view he holds, and it simply just doesn’t stand on a more collective as well as objective ground. It is factual that Judaism was first, it is factual that neither Judaism, Christianity, nor Islam as these organized distinct religions existed during Moses, and it is stated and recorded that the word Meshullam (Arabic: Muslim) implies peace for a peace-maker, befriending etc. though most are simply unaware. Which makes verses like 3:19, 3:84-85 coherent.

[@roxanne2749]

​@@bhavinmehta1490Whatever his qualifications are he is stiII a fabricator non of what he says goes in favor of any schoIarly work.

[@bhavinmehta1490]

@@roxanne2749 if that makes you feel happy sure lol. It is a fact that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam as institutions did not exist during the time of the ancient Israelites. I’m a student of religious studies, I know a thing or two. I cannot help people who remain in the shackles of exclusivism, know nothing about pseudepigrapha texts and apocryphal history, or what the historical context of 7th century entails. But you do you… Some academics for further study: Academics (Islamic studies): Dr. Khalil Andani (Islamic Studies, Ismaili) Dr. Sean Anthony (Islamic Studies) Dr. Gabriel Said Reynolds (Bible and Qur’an) Dr. Shady Al Naser (Qur’anic manuscripts) Dr. Adnan Ibrahim (Islamic studies) Dr. Shezad Saleem (Islamic studies) Dr. Shabir Ally (Islamic studies) Dr. Marjin Van Putten (Islamic studies, Arabic) Dr. Reuven Firestone Muhammad Asad Dr. Joshua Little Hebrew Bible and Ancient Near East: John J. Collins (Hebrew Bible) Dr. Joel Baden (Hebrew Bible) Dr. Joshua Bowens (Bible, Assyriology) Dr. Kipp Davis (Dead Sea Scrolls, Bible) Christianity and New Testament: Dr. James Tabor Dr. Bart Erhman (Christianity, New Testament) Dr. Robyn Faith Walsh (New Testament) Dr. Dan McClellan (Bible, Christianity) Dr. Andrew M. Henry (early Christianity) Dr. Richard Carrier (New Testament) Jewish studies: Rabbi Tovia Singer Dr. Rueven Firestone I have excluded my own professors to whom I owe much gratitude for education. But these are excellent academics.

[@roxanne2749]

@@bhavinmehta1490 Are you done? Lol stop doing strawman of my position my position is clear on this Javad that he considers himseIf musIim but all of his thoughts and ideas goes completely against lsIamic narative.

[@bhavinmehta1490]

Shadee isn’t very intelligent.

[@misterblunderfull8305]

Says the sanghi Bhangi lindu with an IQ of 74