Thank you sir for helping me to understand better what I've been doing wrong. I'm in between a rock & a hard spot because I'm trying to make a stud for my tractor engine that has been DISCONTINUED. It is 3.375"/85.725mm long. It is a rocker stud in the head that I MUST have to get my diesel engine back running. The stud 10mm has 1.5mm threads .625"/15.875mm long on one end with 1.25mm threads 1.5"/38.10mm long on the other end with a NO THREAD area in the middle 1.25"/31.75mm. So far, the two that I have threaded have bent slightly just enough that they WON'T work in the rockers in the engine. I'm NOT giving up because if I don't get one to work my tractor is done. Thanks for your insight that has helped me. Keep your fingers crossed that I can get two made. GOD BLESS SIR!🙏🙏🙏
@thomasblackwell95072 жыл бұрын
sir: That was the best demonstration of threading I have ever seen. Thank you so much for your patience and time. I have actually learned something.
@OrgytenThePyroxenes4 жыл бұрын
Quite amazing how few people use split dies correctly, and this is an example of someone not realising what they are doing. The die is split for a reason, and the holder has grub screws for a reason, yet few people ever mention them. The die should be installed in the holder with the split in line with the middle grub screw. You should tighten the middle screw a little to expand the die for the first cut. It’s instead of having first second and bottom taps for internal threads. Expanding the die makes the first cut if the thread shallow so that the thread isn’t fully bottomed out and it’s easier to cut, especially if you have a very long thread to cut. Once you have done a first pass, you loosen the middle screw and just nip up the outer two screws, just a tad. This closes the die a tiny amount such that when you make the next pass the thread is cut to the very bottom of the thread profile. The screws are also a way of matching the size of an existing thread if the thread length needs to be increased. The screws can be tightened until the die is not loose on the existing thread, and this ensures that the new thread is cut to the same diameter. The guy in this video put the die in the holder in the wrong position and didn’t even bother with the screws. Not the end of the world, but in some circumstances you may end up with a thread that is too tight for a matching female thread if you don’t know what you’re doing.
@johnkealohafero89003 жыл бұрын
thats what I thought the point of the split was, to start loosened and gradually cut the the threads by tightening up the split through a series of passes
@ciphergoth3 жыл бұрын
You should make a video!
@ianwilliams14482 жыл бұрын
Agreed. You set it as wide as possible for the first cut. I was viewing to find out what cutting lube to use..
@menchelke2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't aware of this info, but I haven't used my die yet, so I am glad you put this in as a comment, and now I know.
@CandidZulu Жыл бұрын
The split is there so you can adjust for wear, an cut to different classes of thread fit.
@minskie2 жыл бұрын
Best instructional video I’ve seen explaining threading with dies!
@waynetetley5844 жыл бұрын
Always worth checking out what you think you already know. I learnt a lot from your explanation. Much appreciated
@justinsuydamjs6 жыл бұрын
7:58 is where you just taught me my lesson. I’ve been trying a damn hex die to make the threads.
@Kazuo1G4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out. I also have a set of hex chasing dies that I've been using, and had major trouble with cutting.
@MrPerfect4094 жыл бұрын
Same here, got pretty angry trying to figure out wtf was wrong
@bl00d5h0ck3 жыл бұрын
Literally same thing here. Smh🤦🏾♂️
@brettymike3 жыл бұрын
The hex dies work just fine for making threads - when they are nice and sharp. Been using a set of 3 - 8mm hex dies for years.
@billwells80542 жыл бұрын
Thank you, excellent help. Pleasure to see a skilled machinist teaching.
@MoparDan7 ай бұрын
Thanks for this very informative video. I learned some things that I didn’t know before. I’m wanting to correctly chase the threads on 1/8-27, 1/4-18 and 3/8-18 pipe in the near future.
@SWORDSLINGEROMIO5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing the knowledge of threading with us
@danielwilkerson32123 жыл бұрын
Great video man. Thank you. I really appreciate the instruction and useful tips.
@oldoldpilgrim78985 жыл бұрын
You answered all of my questions except for recommending a cutting fluid. Thanks!
@nelsonsantos7703 жыл бұрын
Any cutting oil will do. It's basically just for lubrication.
@oldoldpilgrim78983 жыл бұрын
Thanks again.
@THX113803 ай бұрын
Great Job Sir. I'm doing a tap dance 😂😂
@rogersrabbithole84176 жыл бұрын
In all my years of experience with machines & Repairing equipment of all shapes types and sizes nobody has ever tried to teach me or pass it on to me what die nut to use for a specific job. that's a new one on me. I've been cranking a wrench close to 40 years. guess it's never too late to teach a old dog new tricks... ????
@amramhakohen74744 жыл бұрын
Another old dog here sayin' AMEN!
@kennethfreeman1448 Жыл бұрын
I like the voice mail box at the end of the video with email and all😂
@crackedfingerz Жыл бұрын
So, is the rod 3/8" diameter or a bit smaller. I've seen a lot of videos on this subject, and no one ever mentions the size of the rod in relation to the size of the die. This would be very helpful for a rookie such as myself. Very clear and to the point tutorial though. Thank you.
@patrioticmisinformation7184 Жыл бұрын
Eye ball it. Grind some material off the stock if needed.
@Matt-zf7vz6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video.
@thumperstickАй бұрын
Is going from 1/2 diameter thread to 3/8 thread too fine of material to cut new threads?
@redbaroniii Жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch! Great help for me.
@biodread102 ай бұрын
How the hell did you keep the rod from turning in the vice? I have been trying to cut 5-40 threads on a 1/8” stainless steel rod and the Torque from the die stock turns the rod and I can’t go any further. I finally had to file flat spots on each side and hold with a crescent wrench and vice to keep the rod from spinning.
@theultimatecookie3942 жыл бұрын
Kinda can't believe I have to watch this for homework. Really good and informative video tho, so thanks for that
@j4ret2212 жыл бұрын
Where u from?
@tombirmingham73543 ай бұрын
Just what l needed!
@bareavis4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation and video
@clarkgriswold24804 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thank you.
@murryslims9695 Жыл бұрын
Great help, thanks for sharing
@MadeInMyGarage Жыл бұрын
Great video sir!
@s.u.52854 жыл бұрын
I wish this video didnt skip the part where you prepare the rod on the edge before you do this part.
@joejean2103 жыл бұрын
At least he mentioned it. the 1st video I watched did not even elude to it.
@BAGOTCORNER2 жыл бұрын
Use a flapper disk or a hand file .
@oilspeculatorhater4 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thank you for sharing.
@HollywoodGraham6 жыл бұрын
Good instructions, very through..
@warsameadam55725 жыл бұрын
This is time consuming for big jobs. Can you use a machine with a die to speed up the task? Thank you great video
@dekutree645 жыл бұрын
Lathe
@godsamongmen80032 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing. You could put your workpiece in a lathe and run it at low speed, but I wonder how you would hold the die? Maybe a big enough chuck in a tailstock could take it? And then hopefully the screw inside the die would be enough to expand it for your first pass, because the die is meant to be used in the stock.
@anonymousaccordionist33262 жыл бұрын
@@godsamongmen8003 You do not use a die with a lathe. Cutting threads on a lathe is an entirely different process from using a die, and is much more complicated. This video shows how to use a die, and that's the long and the short of it. There's really no quicker way to use one.
@livinginitaly16years80 Жыл бұрын
Well done practicle ability highest form of intelligence
@NP-rh3dt5 жыл бұрын
Very well made video, great for beginners.
@Spruce-Bug Жыл бұрын
Is there a way you can add a pilot with these hand dies to make sure the die is straight?
@davidroofier86754 ай бұрын
Can this be done on rebars?
@kerrywil14 жыл бұрын
HI, when I am using a Die to thread a rod i never seam to get the correct diameter in the lathe. where does one find the diameter of the rod for a specific threading Die. An example, the diameter of rod for a 1/4 28 or a 5/8 11 Die? Thank you.
@spartaeus3 жыл бұрын
What's the largest size rod that can be threaded by hand ?? I need to thread a 5/8" rod to 5/8-18 thread.
@adambombcreations35424 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@covertfurniture7172 Жыл бұрын
Hello Machine Tool Etc, Have you (or anybody here) ever put threads on the pointed end of an 8d common nail? Would there be any issues to do so?
@HighTone45 Жыл бұрын
Are these pieces already heat treated when you thread them?
@Chris-SS2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, really helpful 😊
@b2manufacturing7 ай бұрын
I can’t find a video on how to keep it from spinning in the vise, I got my fuse so tight I almost bent the handle and the 1/4 round keeps turning in the vise, yeah it’s a weak mill vise but there’s gotta be a a trick to hold it
@henrydixon31593 жыл бұрын
are the dies marked as to what size they are as you can tell by my question I never did this before trying to make threads on a rod for a hood release
@SJG-962 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Which Die (unc pitch form can I use on a 3/16” ss round bar ? Thanks in advance.
@rbbiefah6 жыл бұрын
Do you need a handle on you die stock just to chase threads on lug bolts that are not badly stripped nut just not turning freely ?
@SilverHunkClover Жыл бұрын
But if it tilts what would you do?
@codelicious65903 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm pretty well hooped; I spent all my money on hex dies thinkin I could thread what I needed with them, only to find that I have the wrong tools for the job!!
@brettymike3 жыл бұрын
Because they are new and sharp, the hex dies will work just fine. The SECRET IS, to make your own decent sized handles - with a decent GUIDE, to make starting and straightness effortless. I couldn't stand using that junk stuff up above - NO rod guides? - what a joke!.
@hubert-williams33795 жыл бұрын
I have a metal plate that's 5"x5" 1/8 thick.. with a center hole.. can I thread this plate on to a rod that's 1" in diameter
@mychannelbreaking64174 жыл бұрын
can it be for stainless steel?
@harshvardhansingh18953 жыл бұрын
I want to cut tread on 6.5 mm Hollow pipe Please help to suggest how to cut it.
@guillermonieri42035 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@-Gunnarsson- Жыл бұрын
iv been trying like 10 times threading a metal tube on the inside straight. But always wobbly..
@TheYelwing6 жыл бұрын
How many turns can you go and still be able to correct a crooked start ? Example: 15/16 x 18 thread. I made a mess of it
@giannimotisi12815 жыл бұрын
when i use the die to make a threaded rod i get a curved-like thread. as if the rod is banana shaped- except its straight, but the threads are sharp on one side and dull on the other side of rod. i have no idea what is causing this, but its fairly often that this happens to me- anyone have any thoughts?
@kylerunyan59506 жыл бұрын
Great video! I do have a question tho. When it says "This side up" does that refer to when you are LOADING the die into the handle or as you are USING it, meaning you would load that side down into the handle?
@skotlawrencedesironcustomm81076 жыл бұрын
Kyle Runyan Refers to what you see when threading. You should see ‘this side up’ while you are cutting threads. Also remember to use lots of cutting oil and go backwards every 1/4 turn or less to release the cut material. Patience is key in using taps and dies. Cheers dude
@manongvivottv72863 жыл бұрын
where can i buy this items?
@jasonbiggs133 жыл бұрын
great info thank you
@robalan576 жыл бұрын
Can you thread plumbing pipes with it?
@MK23C6 жыл бұрын
robalan57 Yes they make both threading and rethreading dies for pipes. These are not identified like normal thread sizes (1/4”-20) but rather in the form of NPT or BPT and other types. If you are in the United States you should look for NPT. For example, a 3/4” NPT die will thread 3/4” nominal pipe. They make hand threaders for new threads (see RIDGID for example) or rethreading dies for repairing threads (made by Hanson for example).
@darkshadowsx59493 жыл бұрын
all i did was make my custom bolts thinner... i did the 45deg taper too. im going to say it was my cheap Chinese solid dies.
@MegaRizm5 жыл бұрын
How much will this tools cost?
@SciFiFactory5 жыл бұрын
I have problems getting short threads straight. They always turn out a little bit angled. The thread is only about an inch long and when the die is on there, there is barely anything to measure. Any tips? I have this problem on all the threads I'm cutting.
@brettymike3 жыл бұрын
Yep, anything without rod straightness guides incorporated in the design are trouble making junk.
@virginiavadassery607611 ай бұрын
Hello anybody knows what size of die rethreading size of is 7mm outer diameter
@coffeecoconutstermites85972 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@PeterPete2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bad advice - I followed your instructions with the die the wrong way round!!! It's lucky people in the comments section know the right orientation of the die!!
@greg61075 жыл бұрын
hank you kind sir !
@DXT612 жыл бұрын
Tightening the split die screw opens it up?
@effinog Жыл бұрын
Yes because the thread is on the screw side so screwing it in opens the die. But presumably one should then loosen the screw to get a deeper cut thread on the rod.
@DXT61 Жыл бұрын
@@effinog Thanks
@Tax2Me3 жыл бұрын
I am learning this as a need for fabricating my own rods to hold bluetooth speakers to my stock BMW R1150RT handlebar. This bike comes with stop fairing mirrors and predrilled holes in the controls brace. By fabricating my own rod I am hoping to use a rod similar to the one used on the GS model mirrors but instead of mirrors they will be die at whatever needs to be to match the socket screw of my speaker. Intuitively doable but had never done anything like this. So your video instructs me in the right direction. Each BT speaker weights about 30 Oz. So weight wise I don’t need heavy duty rod but i figure that because of the air pressure and vibration I need to go a bit “overkill”. Any recommendation (material, diameter and pitch) all welcome
@michaelmccr32942 жыл бұрын
I have a question I need to put on a ccw nut so what way does I need to thread the rod then cw or ccw?
@evansste Жыл бұрын
You'd have to use a ccw die, and turn it counter clock wise.
@daroyalhayn5 жыл бұрын
I'm want to thread a 7/16 O.D. rod do I use a 7/16 Die ? Never use taps or dies.
@clogsdon00015 жыл бұрын
Yes, use a 7/16" die and be very careful to start it straight.
@daroyalhayn5 жыл бұрын
@@clogsdon0001 Thank you
@lacaver646 жыл бұрын
I do it al the days i make treads with taps and dies but when I was younger I has a little factory and in this thime I tread on treadrolling machines and that is super faster in 24mm you can it do in 4 seconds that machines was nicely
@lightfoot7461 Жыл бұрын
Why don't you tell us what size rod and what size dye are you using why do you guys keep it a secret
@useyour-cHf2bS9swvАй бұрын
But what is the nut
@vwbeaner4 жыл бұрын
Can I have your Wilton vise since you're not using it?
@geoffgeoff1434 жыл бұрын
What about Warragul does or pipe dies
@riv19506 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks.
@mostafaabdelghani76095 жыл бұрын
خ خرااطه
@charleshetrick3152 Жыл бұрын
Love what I do now but this video made me miss the smell of my old machine shop job.
@XY-hh6tl8 ай бұрын
The loosening at 5:45 is unneccessary you can also put the tool on the die
@moustachemike71284 жыл бұрын
this is twice if had too thread clean rod and every time the treads will start to twist at an angle about 1/3 way down... then it will go straight not sure why. my be too fast or dull cutting dia !!!
@ShayanQuanta5 жыл бұрын
need wd40 while hand threading. it will done the job clearly smooth
@darkshadowsx59493 жыл бұрын
no magic tap works best for taps and dies. you cant find a better product. project farm tested a bunch of various products including wd40.
@johnkealohafero89003 жыл бұрын
start loosened and gradually tighten through a series of passes
@najahkwabenanajahjonas73558 ай бұрын
Boss please I need work
@powerrangjer20015 жыл бұрын
What size u use m12 ??
@JM-yx1lm5 жыл бұрын
Why does that even matter? What a waste of a question.
@adambombcreations35424 жыл бұрын
No question is dumb, only idiots wait in silence.
@dawnb42955 жыл бұрын
Can these do left hand threads?
@dekutree645 жыл бұрын
Not with the same die used for right hand threads, but you can buy left hand dies.
@jhbonarius4 жыл бұрын
I've been trying this. Couldn't get the thread die started: (I had the starter side in the right side.) So I opened it further. Still no start. So I put more downward force on it. Then the die broke into two parts! What did I do wrong? The funny think is: I managed to make the thread with the broken die. It finally opened put far enough to start the thread, and I could still close it in the stock to make the final pass.
@CHEVI7894 жыл бұрын
You listened to this guy if you did what he did in this video, it's one turn forward and half turn back, always use a cutting compound like oil or whatever, also there are dies that are made of different metals, the main ones are carbon and then there is high speed steel (HSS) , you want them to last, use HSS, use carbon if you don't use it much, lubricate both die and part you're working on, makes things easier, last longer and makes you equipment last too, hope it helps.
@jhbonarius4 жыл бұрын
@@CHEVI789 thanks for the response, but the problem is that I cannot get it started. Your response doesn't give any insight on how to fix that. All the other stuff you mention: already doing that.
@CHEVI7894 жыл бұрын
@@jhbonarius , sorry about that buddy, I usually put it on a lathe at a 60 degree pitch but not to a point, sorry it's hard to describe by writing, if you have a lathe as I do, put the work into the lathe if you can, then turn the tool post to 30 degrees ( 90-30=60), take bit by bit off the edge, say 2 millimeters and try that, if not take more off the edge, say 3 millimeters, I've found 3 millimeters works well but depending on the size you might have to take off less or more, if you don;t have a lathe then use a bench grinder, hope it helps.
@janetban03166 жыл бұрын
What kind off thread is it fine or course threading
@donnavance35465 жыл бұрын
At 0:41 you can see the Die was marked 3/8 - 24, which is consider fine threading.
@nonyachildofgod34823 жыл бұрын
I have a 11/4 bolt that I'm trying to retread just the very end or top of it
@nonyachildofgod34823 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if my set even though it say 11/4 is one that it will do is correct
@grantkat43 жыл бұрын
That's about a $70 die from MSC. Easier if you have a metal lathe to chase the threads back on it.