CLORINDE, SIGEWINNE, & SETHOS First Impressions - GENSHIN IMPACT 4.7 New Characters Analysis

[@maobisawesome]

Chevreuse never perished. I don't know what you're talking about 🤷‍♂

[@lerisa_ch]

she never perished, just hasn't gone back from 4* rate up

[@splashmedzankhomani232]

If I see any a u pick sigewinne then say she is best healer immo call out yall bullshit. Only two theory crafters does theory crafting welll... n please don't mess on characters cause u don't know then switch cause the bandwagon is near u....like ppl praising ARLECHINNO when she is niche..n might not be your cup tea if mechanics don't suit your play style..yall shyt heads like to make hoyoverse money by simping over mediocre Mami based on looks..like how yall was shitting nahida then she turn out busted,or hating QiQi when she is top 3 best healer....genshin isn't for content creators it's for ppl that game responsibility and in strides and according to the vibes and a game to take in strides ..not an everyday toxic injection of yall hypocrisy and b.s

[@Nohrellas]

Her last rate up was in version 4.3, in which she was released in the first place. Why people expect her to get back so quick? Kaveh still hasn't gotten a rate up and he was released one yeat ago. Layla, Kuki and Mika also haven't gotten a rate up for a while now.

[@NoahSteel-wx8ry]

People really want Chevy in order to make their Arlecchino overloaded teams work 😂

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[@eliwhite6159]

the shade thrown at 22:01 is staggering. surely natlan will break this pattern (clueless)

[@chrisvieira2742]

Like… it’s actually becoming a bad joke at this point

[@jalynhorne9371]

Bold of you to assume Natlan will have dark characters 🤣

[@eliwhite6159]

@@jalynhorne9371 it will have one (1) dark skinned chibi character named iansan and she will heal enemies everytime she punches them

[@putent9623]

Ngl as a black person, even if these people arent white, they are light skinned, not dark. If you want to see dark skin people stype it into google and it will literaly be a night and day difference...

[@nonamepasserbya6658]

The worst part is he even gets nerfed, hoyo not beating the allegations

[@x3AnimeFanXD]

I was hoping for Sigewinne to work with Wrio or Neuvillette because of their story connection but thats ok I will get her still because she is literally a magical melusine nurse ♥

[@LauraJinkins-pi8sv]

She has a TINY ammount of resonance with neuv if you have c1 (neuv) since her bubble does summon a droplet he can absorb

[@x3AnimeFanXD]

@@LauraJinkins-pi8sv 😎 fuck yeaaaaah I do have c1r1 neuvi LETS GOOO

[@Phatgussy]

@@x3AnimeFanXDthat’s good. Ur being completely honest she’s not a good partner for him babes you can still do it if you want but it’s not recommend

[@Sonicexe-nm1vm]

Youcan use Furina with her (i think)

[@Neo-o]

@@LauraJinkins-pi8svDoesn’t her C2 also shred hydro res too? I don’t quite remember

[@Angelo_MS]

It's sethover Seriously though what is with hoyo's obsession with making on-field 4 stars

[@hallyuniverse]

Yeah idk what they're thinking, especially when we get Arlecchino > Clorinde back to back... like we don't need any more DPS characters. Gaming was a really good example of what a 4 star DPS can be, and is probably the only relevant one besides Noelle on Mono-Geo Furina teams.

[@usmanya5110]

​@@hallyuniverse i'm hoping he might be good but the competition was already rough. when the aggravate driver role is in such a tight spot, i mean when you're not counting the limited 5 stars, there's Lisa and Beidou(when playing with Sucrose as the anemo unit) and Keqing.

[@Dr.Halayqeh]

He's just a filler

[@alexandrebatista8600]

This is exactly what I thought I was hoping he was going to be a support cause of course they were going to make Clorinde a dos and we need more electro that aren’t dps.

[@usmanya5110]

@@Dr.Halayqeh that seems like an accurate description here. though that depends on his relevance on cyno's story quest.

[@TheVermilliaFamily]

I'm sad how niche Sigewinne ended up being. I've been saving for 2 patches under the assumption that I would go for her, but now I think I need to reevaluate. I have every 5* healer in the game, and she doesn't offer anything those ones don't already do. I'm better off getting constellations on an old unit than play catch-up.

[@splashmedzankhomani232]

Get her don't make these bozos tell u other wise . Healers they always shit on even healers in honkai starrail.. notice they never shit on female dps with cool Ult n weird style of Play or mediocre damage they just simp then bench em n rinse n repeat use who I love even Diona can carry u if u rnt addicted to FOMO and just love who u love

[@YourDailyOtter]

her kit is a better kokomi basically an on field dps/healer her burst does big dmg while healing the whole team so u can do a mono hydro and complete the abyss 10x faster than a mono hydro kokomi shes basically a neuvillette but healer

[@ShevaAlpha2002]

​@@YourDailyOtterThat's assuming Sigewinne's elemental burst can heal party members besides her E skill that already does team wide healing. If her elemental burst can do team wide healing, she would arguably one of the best if not the best healer in Genshin Impact.

[@YourDailyOtter]

@@ShevaAlpha2002 if shes a dedicated healer then id assume that is so since her burst is just as long as 1 neuvi ca that it has to have healing and her skill might not heal it gives u bol per blue orb u pick up it might be like this she gets bol from her skill and once she reaches max bol (200%) her burst makes it so it depletes the bol and gives healing to the whole party + doing dmg

[@putent9623]

Why do u even want that child character...

[@aravil2858]

not you putting my precious boy as the ugly in that thumbnail 😭😭😭

[@smanitagorolebglawal309]

it's not wrong, he has the least eye catching design out of those three

[@mikofanboy9711]

@@smanitagorolebglawal309to me, his desgin look very 5 stars XD

[@krisforsigns1273]

​@@smanitagorolebglawal309 idk what to say, I swing both ways and I'd rather put a CHILD DIDDLER BAIT under ugly :)))

[@dot2604]

@@smanitagorolebglawal309 nah he looks sick

[@nailahsaquee6719]

@@smanitagorolebglawal309Wdym bro is majestic

[@zoramarslink5788]

Sigewinne is exactly the healer I need for my Navia/Chiori/Furina team. Team wide hydro heal is awesome on it's own with how it synergizes with Furina.

[@MugWitch]

I was thinking the exact same thing! Like I’m glad she’d work out well on my account since I’ve invested in geo but I do hope they adjust her kit to help her damage output as well as to help her find her synergy with non-wet rock teams

[@nobody-xh6ii]

I was JUST thinking this as a team too. Hydro crystalize will be gaurinteed. Party wide heal. Furina buff. Siegwinne buff. 100% uptime on bullets. I'm using c3r1 yae and c0r1 xianyun with my c2 navia + c1 chiori [no weapon] so this is great tbh.

[@darken2417]

My team really really really didn't need another healer. And I hate using archers. But Sigewinne is cute and I have to support her so that Hoyoverse finally adds another loli to Star Rail lol. So I'm going to replace Jean despite her filling the role easily. Same sort of thing happened with Klee, didn't need her since Xiangling is perfect for my team. But ultimately I replaced her with Klee and I never use her ultimate since it doesn't stay around when switching out.

[@zoramarslink5788]

@darken2417 what team are you using?

[@darken2417]

@@zoramarslink5788 Zhongli for the shield, other characters can just spam attack without dodging anything with his shields lol. Jean for the heals, in case I get hit without shield or for temperature damage. (Replaced with Keqing if its for farming domains which don't need heals ever) Max constellation Nahida waifu to destroy everyone. Klee for pyro and to look cute while everyone else is actually being useful.

[@somekami3375]

When Sethos was announced I was hyped because of his design and lore to Cyno… When revealed as a Bow user… my Hope dropped…

[@hunterwolfe669]

Was rly hoping sethos would be a strong quicken/aggravte supp. Main dps 4 stars areusually not great

[@dominickroberts4653]

What would you expect from a modern 4 star. I bet in natalan we will get a 5 star electro bow user that does everything sethos does but better

[@blossom442]

@@dominickroberts46534 star team can clear abyss all u need is 1 5 star for 2 team I uses burgeon team Jean furina bennet dendro travelled or sometimes fischl instead of Jean shreds and use bennet with great em sub stats I kill multiple in one bennet swipe or ultimate

[@alexprus7953]

​@@blossom442You missed the modern part in "modern 4 star". Fischl and Bennett are both old units and they're great. Candace, Dori, or Freminet not so much

[@Minyoowo]

​@@dominickroberts4653 I mean we got gaming who was competing with literal hu tao, and he is 4star, I understand why people thought sethos would serve dmg

[@CaptainMeleon]

i really wanna try sethos... a bow user that deals damage with both aimed and normal attacks sounds very fun!!

[@PrismPupsickle]

Now If only aloy got the same treatment, maybe she would've been the Cryo yoimiya that she should've been

[@nath4096]

I thought sigewinne can give Bond of Life for her team. She would be the best supp for Arlecchino is she did…

[@Tafp.]

@cro1ssauntt yeah arlecchino gives enough bond of life, though keeping it at max stacks would be nice, but imo what she really needs is a good electro shielder for overload teams. (Beidou technically is an electro shielder but her shield is bad though her kit is good)

[@kianmarcial8884]

Not really, arle alone (without her signature and BOL artifact) is enough to proc enough BOL stacks and making a team wide BOL mechanic will just make it so they'll become a lot more fragile and some artifacts to not work

[@yoiko89]

Sigewinne look like Neuvillette to be honest

[@touchedme1637]

​@cro1ssauntt Arlechinno does not need reactions. She's very much mono Pyro sufficient.

[@lotusrakuen]

At that point, it'll make any unit becomes DPS easily. We are already half that point with Bennet, Furina and Xianyun buff making everyone Xiao lol

[@tylerj4y721]

I find it funny how clorinde was buffed right after this vid lmao

[@goddamnarshia]

Guy exaggerated the shit out of her tho tbf. Before the buff i believe she did a bit more than c0 raiden, without the energy regen. Even now She's not "just a bit behind" neuv and arle, there's quite a bit of difference and more buffs would not in any way "break the game in none healthy way". Talking about the game's health died with Neuvilette anyway

[@smanitagorolebglawal309]

​@@goddamnarshiaI mean Neuvi is the golden exception and Hoyo's favorite child so I don't think every other DPS should be as strong as him and hoyo doesn't want to either. I think she's already pretty good enough so I don't think she should be buffed more, but who knows I have a feeling she'll be buffed

[@goddamnarshia]

@@smanitagorolebglawal309 currently she is ayato 2.0 mate. Not so say ayato is bad , but the moment someone with bigger numbers releases she too will be send to the shadowrealm like ayato , and all the hard counters made for that character will also apply to clorinde. Im not expecting every character to be as strong as Neuvilette, but being so conservative with numbers when they already crossed that line with neuv seems silly. We as a community should not at all defend their decision in suddenly caring about balance either , as more options close to neuv means less people feeling forced to roll him. She could do way more damage and still not be broken.

[@smanitagorolebglawal309]

​@@goddamnarshiaDunno, I think she has a lot of potential and TCs do seem to agree that she's good. And Ayato is still good, Neuvi didn't "powercreep" him cause he's a DPS meanwhile Ayato is a driver like Childe

[@goddamnarshia]

@@smanitagorolebglawal309 well...the thing is in every single team ayato would "drive" , Neuvilette can take his place with no alterations and the team would benefit more. Thats effectively powercreeping him , and this is coming from someone who has ayato and not Neuvilette. Rn clorinde is good , no doubt about it , but she's good the same way ayato was good when he released. Inches away from mediocrity and in direct crosshair of getting powercrept by someone who does everything that would've been considered game breaking if clorinde did it. Also would've been better if she benefited more from not running dendro and got raw damage to compensate instead because aggravate teams are actually fischl teams and the moment someone with better aggravate procs releases, she's replaced.

[@gareesh8478]

Sethos has dark skin, yeah he was cooked from the beginning 💀

[@pr0ntab]

And it's like "dark" bro is lighter than me if I go outside and I'm white.

[@-Theo-]

His skin isn’t dark but it’s what most middle eastern people look like, as someone from MENA Sethos looks like the best representation for Sumeru imo

[@NoirN3rd]

Is the dark skin in the room with us?

[@cleod7439]

​@@NoirN3rdIn comparison to the rest of genshin characters, Sethos is African, almost coal skinned xd

[@UmiChan358]

Characters that moves in the sun all day should be darker, Dehya have a lighter skin that she should have being a dessert Bounty hunter

[@hufflepuffler2575]

Im still pulling for Sigwinne…..she’s so cute! 🥰

[@YourRandomRando]

MY MAN SETHOS IS GETTING DONE DIRTY IN THE THUMBNAIL

[@daltonwilliams8541]

I feel Sethos could be strong in chevreuse overload. With Bennet to buff his attack while he stacks EM, his special charged attacks sound promising with fast enough off field pyro. And his 8 sec skill sounds good for an easy way for him to funnel up energy while pre and post burst before you need to recycle your other units skills and bursts.

[@Rpground]

I want them to at least add HP scaling to Sigewinne's charged attacks. They clearly want her to be both a support/dps hybrid, like C6 Dori, but she needs either more damage on field or higher scaling on her skill/burst to really pull that off.

[@ShevaAlpha2002]

Like Hu Tao's HP scaling for her damage output.

[@oOAlexUwUOo]

They don't seem to want to commit to the Support/DPS character, look at Kokomi with negative crit rate and still doing 10k charged attacks

[@Rpground]

@@oOAlexUwUOo It's weird because they successfully pulled it off with Dori. Granted it requires C6, but she's really good at this job. Completely slept on. Kokomi was pretty much a fail on the concept, probably could have entirely removed the negative crit passive and she would have been fine. Sigewinne really needs more hydro application in her kit or higher multipliers that scale off HP. Her cons seem to want her to be a high damaging DPS, multipliers on her C6 are bonkers...but with what she has now, she's like a 4 star trapped in a 5 star's body. She really needs to be buffed up and I am praying everyday she does.

[@ShevaAlpha2002]

​@@RpgroundC6 Noelle is a very good DPS healer too with Furina.

[@Rpground]

@@ShevaAlpha2002Yes, but she is worse then Dori.

[@ShevaAlpha2002]

One of two ways for Hoyoverse to fix Sigewinne's kit: 1. Make Sigewinne's buffing and healing to be as good as Bennett. 2. Make Sigewinne to be hydro healer/shielder in a similar way that Diona is cryo healer/shielder except that Sigewinne's healing is way better than Diona since Sigewinne heals off field party members unlike Diona who only heals active party member.

[@ldld02]

@xoxo-samantha-eg3mg But Arlecchino is so strong, and Neuvillet too, why some characters have to be so weak?

[@darken2417]

My personal wish for a hydro character especially if its Sigewinne if they get an ability to allow hydro to "stick" onto enemies. Normally hydro gets wiped after an elemental reaction. For example with Dendro you can continuously apply pyro if its already there. But hydro disappears after one hit. If Sigewinne had sticky hydro that stays on after a few reactions then it would make bloom very fun and would give an excuse to use archer charged attacks more often. Or would also pair extremely well with Wriothesley with lots of freeze reactions with each combo strike.

[@Evonyy]

hoyo should replace their gaming designer (who makes kits)

[@ADDITIONALBREAD]

It sucks that sethos isnt a support like chev. Another heizou/gaming situation. Gonna be put in the 1% usage rate. His design looks so good to. His hair alone can defeat diluc Clorinde looks like the most interesting on as of the moment in the current version but pull value for me is low cause of raiden. But with the new endgame content they're really pushing for vairity of characters retricting other elements to be used. I rely on dendro teams to complete abyss so if i cant use it then the new content is gonna be a pain. Sigewine may have potential in natlan but kokomi already exists so again no real reason beside liking her. If she becomes relevant in natlan i will definitely pull in her rerun

[@Szczurzyslawa]

Wouldn't clump Heizou with Gaming 😭 I love em both but C6 Gaming is better than my 5* DPses jkf lol

[@Nesteayy]

Bro i started in Feb, with the release of gaming and i can promise u that i wouldnt have a good time without him. The Problem is, early in the game u dont get a lot dps chars and u sit on 20 supports because most 4 Stars u will get are supports or sub dps. I was ar 150 hours playing genshin when i got my first 5* DPS and it increased my powerlvl insane. I think they add some 4 Star DPS, so u can get a solid/good dps for ur first 100-200h (+ they can be very good at C6). Yh there 1-2 4* dps before gaming but i think to have 1 4* DPS of each element is ok, so have a solid chance to get 1 of them early in the game through rnd pulls.

[@Nesteayy]

Show me the usage rate of furina of players with under 100h vs the usage rate of keaya of players with under 100h Its important and healthy for a game to have focus on advance and beginner

[@EdenVix]

​@@Nesteayy i mean, you don't really need a dps to begin with. I don't like using dps characters bc i prefer quickswap playstyles, the first dps i ever got was xiao on his last rerun and ive been playing since 3.2 and clearing abyss since 3.6 But i do agree they're not there to be top meta characters, it's just most a "play them if you like" situation, it just sucks that they get outclassed by 5* specially if it's your fave

[@MugWitch]

@@Nesteayy Thanks for the perspective! It can be hard to remember what it was like for early game sometimes. I feel like I would have had a better time starting out with Gaming too 😂 Not only is he a precious bean, the damage output and the little boost for exploration by using his skill as you sprint would have made him my 4 star hero.

[@Kenny-ot4yx]

C0 Clorinde just got buffed too so that's a thing lol.

[@NoahSteel-wx8ry]

Man, that’s a messed up pattern of characters whose kits work against them 😅

[@valenun]

Sigewinne problems would be solve if she aplied hydro every time the bubble bounces 😔

[@botznk1-93znk]

my build (f2p option) for sigwin, bow 3* - recurve bow (u can't get from gacha/hp substat 44% max) artifact hp/hydro/(hp/cr/cdm) Vourukasha's Glow recurve bow can be obtained from : -chest in mondstat -npc shirin in gandarville village -quest "Prologue: Act I - The Outlander Who Caught the Wind" -npc nakano in ritou port inazuma

[@shidohihiho]

Sethos is getting the Dehya treatment.

[@BamaMophi]

One thing to note that Sigewinne has over Kokomi is that Sigewinne’s healing seems far more mobile of a healer than Kokomi is. And depending on how far her bubble is capable of bouncing, her hydro application could do well against more mobile enemy units or even airborne ones if it’s able to target them in air.

[@TheBilayer]

Sethos not ugly! I find him pretty

[@typhatail]

If I were to turn Sigewinne into a full dps the sands would still be HP then I guess Unless they somehow change her kit to ATK split scaling (I'd hope not)

[@ImFloof]

This is unrelated to the video but I literally just noticed this now, but I find it so interesting how her heart thing has a broken heart and a full heart, and the arrows pointing toward the full heart. I wonder if it ever points to the broken heart

[@lycheejj3929]

im gonna main sigewinne on first half of spiral abyss and sethos on other half, i love them both too much, i dont care how bad or niche they are (even if i dont have furina), and would ibis peircer be good on sethos edit: if your gonna reply please answer my question or if you would support or be nice to my opinion

[@seyenas]

based

[@mickysaif]

Ibis gives atk which is pretty useless but the new weapon is way better because of 350 em

[@lycheejj3929]

@cro1ssauntt thanks so much!

[@lycheejj3929]

Thank you for responding to my question!

[@ShevaAlpha2002]

I also will try to go for Sigewinne even if Baizhu will be a much better healer than her.

[@goddamnarshia]

You might notice there's less doomposting about clorinde than expected even though she isn't CRAZY strong. You might think its because the other two units are so shit they're tanking the doomposts but no. The truth is , for the past year , us clorinde wanters went through all levels of hell from not getting any screen time in the archon quest , to the 4 star allegations, to the off field allegations and even standard allegations at some point. We've been through so much shit that when she was revealed to be 5 star AND dps , all doom postings ceased. That was before she got buffed. Edit: and this comment was also before she got nerfed, nvm , the nepotism hire at the balancing team strikes again

[@smanitagorolebglawal309]

Both are true. The 2 other characters are pretty bad that they're taking all the doomposts , and there seems to be favouritism towards Clorinde since Arle was doomposted to hell and back but no one seems to say anything about clorinde 😂

[@demijames2865]

I can’t wait for Sigwinne. I don’t have Furina yet. But I am pulling for Sigwinne cause she has a unique gameplay. I like Chlorinde but her playstyle is common.

[@icey_john]

i find chlorinde weird since the banner before her is Baizhu but it doesn't sound like he works with her because of the bond of life mechanic

[@powerdinosaur2232]

Any healing abilities used on her will be converted into Bond of life, so it’s not as bad as you’d think. Because he’s Dendro and also has a shield, he’s one of Clorinde’s best aggravate teammates.

[@sapedibeppo]

@@powerdinosaur2232he also directly buffs aggravate

[@nobody-xh6ii]

Plus the interuption resist and party wide healing. You can use her in place of cynos best team and pop off. Said team being nahida, furina, baizhu. Aka the team that will also carry sethos who can't even do the dmg to justify the carry unlike clorinde

[@samiplyz2212]

Eventho Sigewinne seems to be pretty nich/not the best in slot, I think I'm still going to pull for her simply cause I like her design and I wanna make a funny all tiny character team, and since hydro is arguably the most reactive element she's bassicly a must for said team

[@martnsalah8941]

Love your content so much and really appreciate your hard work for visual representation and scaling/comparison. You legit save me from watching hours and hours of TC while still understanding where things lay in terms of power due to the star system and what is holding them back or potentially gameplay issues

[@nailahsaquee6719]

It's okay Sehos, I'll still build you even if you're trash, my king❤😭

[@gfox6151]

I have a feeling we sethos will be on clorinde banner but I am really hoping he’s on sigwinne since I want her and him

[@joy7367]

hoping with u bc i want clorinde but not sethos :')

[@Neo-o]

I’m gonna be pulling on both, I just genuinely hope Kaveh will be with one of the two phases

[@avej99]

Damn I knew they were gonna sethos dirty. Disappointed but not at all surprised

[@Sonicexe-nm1vm]

Why though? In my opinion, he seems pretty good

[@Nova-we4oj]

they really wont let a poc win in this damn game and here i thought maybe after gaming we might see something nice 😭😭

[@araarashinigami]

This is Teyvat, not Earth. POC? LMAO.

[@Sourxtaboo]

@@araarashinigami what does this even mean the game is literally based off different cultures?

[@temporaryheartTM]

@@araarashinigami yeahhhhhhh, im gonna need you to never oprn your mouth again lmao

[@oOAlexUwUOo]

​@@SourxtabooYeah but Chinese players don't like dark skinned characters so there's no hope for them in this or any other full Chinese/asian game

[@pelumiogunlana1058]

Win how tho? Of what benefit would it be if a new black character was added to the game?

[@DDemiGodd]

Only thing hoyo seems to hate more thank blk characters is free ones lol (rip aloy)

[@octo689]

I am pulling her signature purely for having a French sword for the French swordsman. The coolest looking sword (rapier) imo.

[@-Theo-]

(In reference to the thumbnail) Sethos is anything but ugly 😂 But I’m extremely disappointed with the kit hoyo gave him. He deserves to be an off field support.

[@res6148]

I saw that clorinde actually has pretty good AOE so I wouldnt call her single target focus. I kinda hope she gets more overal damage buffs as we are in need of an electro on field main dps that actually deals good damage.

[@cleod7439]

She is as aoe as cyno. Is not a yoimiya case, but its not a aoe dmg dealer if the enemy's aren't too group

[@reynerestebanb.h4014]

The skip , the skipping and the skipeable 😂

[@bersa2398]

Sethos could be the 4* electro with the highest em along with the f2p bow. He could play has a hiperbloom on field trigger with high damage

[@dogo523]

SETHOS IS NOT UGLY

[@nobody-xh6ii]

Cyno is actually a good unit. Get him out of that picture. Seriously, he is the only other dps thats electeo we have worth building and is CONSISTANT damage. NOT NUKE! Consistant is often BETTER than nuke because you dont need to worry about snapshot dmg bs unlike keqing or needing c2 like raiden whos only good in 1 team and REQUIRES c2 to bs a dps.

[@Dr.Halayqeh]

Thank you very much. I'll go pull for Arle I'll skip Clorend

[@Shadowenclave47]

Having mixed feelings about Arlecchino, Clorinde and Sigewinne. I waited months/years for Arlecchino and Clorinde to be playable, but god i absolutely HATE the BoL gimmick/mechanic. Also, i have a cracked C0R5 Dragons Bane Hu Tao and C0R1 Yoimiya as my Pyro dps along with a C2R1 Raiden & a C3 Keqing as my Electro dps and don't feel like investing into another Pyro or Electro character unless its an Archon/Sovereign. I see many videos of Clorinde in Dendro teams but if i want to play Dendro/Aggravate i'll just play Keqing + Fischl or Raiden + Yae with Zhognli and C2 Nahida and i have Kuki for Hyperbloom so Clorinde doesn't really add anything new for me and i have all Electro related reactions covered besides Overloaded because i don't have Chev. Arlecchino may be strong, but i still hate her BoL gimmick and her anti synergy with some of my best supports (C2 Furina and C2 Xianyun or C4 Jean if the dps doesn't plunge). Also her best support is Bennett who i refuse to use so that already puts her at a disadvantage compared to my other dps on my account. As for Sigewinne, im mainly interested in her ability to heal the party with her skill since it seems like a nice quality of life to have when im casually playing Furina or Nilou teams and i don't want to pull Baizhu who is currently the only healer that can do that (but i still hate BoL though lol). In the end, i think i might just skip everyone and hard save for C2 Pyro Archon & the Pyro Dragon.

[@ShevaAlpha2002]

I will only go for Pyro Sovereign if Pyro Sovereign is a pyro catalyst user like how Neuvillette is a hydro catalyst user.

[@res6148]

If pyro sovereign is confirmed, I will seize all plans and go for the sovereign. I must c6 them all...

[@smanitagorolebglawal309]

God whenever I see you on comment sections you're always whining about something lmao. You were begging for a strong female DPS, you finally got one and you're STILL complaining 💀 by your logic literally just don't pull any new character if you already have good enough teams to clear endgame stuff lmao

[@smanitagorolebglawal309]

Also BoL is literally just that... a mechanic. Just like the hp drain mechanic. It literally doesn't do anything and is easy to master, I can never understand you people who always want to stick to the same boring simple mechanics and don't wanna bother to read stuff you're not familiar about 🥱

[@simondrews6229]

My idea for the geo Sigewinne team would actually be Navia + Chiori + Furina, hopefully having (at least) one enhanced Navia E for huge dmg. Just food for thought haha

[@LauraJinkins-pi8sv]

I feel like they’re gonna make sigewinne a entity buffer, if furina has 3 summons sigewinne can buff the entities by like 15/25/35% this would make her unique giving her a small niche with yae and furina

[@tavinhoo]

i think that thudering fury is going to be her best set

[@Nesteayy]

For Sethos: I started in Feb, with the release of gaming and i can promise u that i would not had a good time without him. The Problem is, early in the game u dont get a lot dps chars and u sit on 20 supports because most 4 Stars u will get are supports or sub dps and all u want is a solid dps. I was ar 150 hours playing genshin when i got my first 5* DPS and it increased my powerlvl insane. I think they add some 4 Star DPS, so u can get a solid/good dps for ur first 100-200h (+ they can be very good at C6). Yh there 1-2 4* dps before gaming but i think to have 1 4* DPS of each element is ok, so have a solid chance to get 1 of them early in the game through rnd pulls. Its annoying for long time players but for starters these 4* dps are pretty cool.

[@elliptictae]

As an aloy main, I see sethos as an absolute win

[@k.r6715]

Calling him ugly. Damn I really wanna see how you look now 👀

[@wellberightback4861]

People called 4.5 bad... 4.6 is MY filler patch😂

[@smanitagorolebglawal309]

Despite having 3 new characters and endgame content, 4.7 will be the biggest filler patch for me next to 3.5. Excited for the new abyss tho

[@lenoxma7826]

What about Navia, Chiori, Furina, Sigewinne?

[@cleod7439]

Chori is bad with navia without C2, I suppose the rest is fine (just that in that team furina is the main dps by far, Instead of navia)

[@lenoxma7826]

@@cleod7439 You mean C1? I have it and already forgot about the construct requirements, so you are right for C0.(Even C0 felt nice tbh) Doesnt Sigewinne also buff Navia's and Chiori's skill? Why is Furina specifically the main dps then?

[@cleod7439]

@@lenoxma7826 oh nice, then chiori should be fine with the C1. Sigewinne buff only works for off field skill dmg, so it should only buff furina's and chiori's skill dmg. Furina would have been the biggest dmg cause she have the hp buff from doble hydro and would take more advantage of sigewinne buff, so (if chiori wasn't C1) would have been the one that did damage. With chiori C1 both her and furina should be doing around the same dps. It looks good as a team 👍🏾

[@sdani.]

​@@cleod7439albedo instead of chiori?

[@Impapimpa]

Forgotten (Summit) Shaper: Hey, I'm a limited 5 star sword too. Jokes aside, even without a shield, it can't be worse than the craftables, right......right?

[@doracosta1760]

I really hope Sigewinne comes on the second half of 4.7 so i have time to save for her and pray i win 50/50

[@aron666able]

Clorinde: Finally an electro dps to overthrone Raiden, at least in single target dmg or small AoE. Sigewine: Replaces zhongli in Neuvillete's team at C2 (Just pull for C1 Neuvillete and Kazuha). Sethos: Well at least Gaming exists to prove that not all new 4star dps characters are useless.

[@JaxElectroSaiyan]

Clorinde... Can't wait... *heavy breathing* 🥵🥵🥵

[@izanagiuzumaki7325]

Since Father is using my cracked Glad set, and I won't see good Harmonic pieces for another year, my 98:285 MH is going on the gun girl

[@JayDamaso78]

We got JStern and others saying Echoes competes very close or actually is in some scenarios Clorinde's best set, and it's not even mentioned here. ....bUt tHe pInG Also, she was just buffed in V2 Beta lol.

[@res6148]

She definitely needs more buffs for me to be hopeful

[@77hellsing]

hoyo is just waiting with the nerf bat

[@mattsopiratoso790]

I can finally turn my Raiden into a Skill Bot. Gonna give Raiden all Elemental Mastery stat. A new character has taken her spot, afterall.

[@kachowdah1520]

Another version of “wet rock” for Siegewinne could maybe be Navia, Albedo, Furina 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@yaemikoshandler]

Would sethos not be good with fischl? I know its kind of boring to just use her with every electro main dps but i feel like she complements him really well no? With his energy and her jusf doing a lot of dmg, almost a f2p yae maybe

[@usmanya5110]

the question is though i wonder if he can be competitive with Lisa for that. who is also somewhat considered a f2p yae, since they are both on and off field electro damage dealers with high burst cost except yae is with her e while Lisa is with her Burst.

[@7ittony]

i feel like clorinde will be amazing on echos

[@lashwillsmash4958]

How good would it be to have Albedo, Chiori, Sigewinne and Gorou? Cos Chiori could use bond of life artifact and weapon. Chiroi would get about 80% dmg, 50ish% atk, 40% crit dmg and 1800 flat skill dmg (also song of the past work buff would help)

[@thiefpotato2759]

Do we know how much hydro application that Sigewinne charge attack does? Cuz she could be good in Nilou teams if its decent since Kokomi and Baizhu have only okay application for Nilou teams.

[@socckks]

I literally just got rid of my recurve for exp mats bc no one was using so ig in gonna skip sigwinne 😢😢😢😢

[@raptorking3678]

You can buy one from a vendor where Tighnari lives

[@prettypuddin]

.. You are going to pass because you got rid of a bow...???? And this guy is full of Sht. You dont need furina to make Sig good. Since Furina, I have constantly read " without furina - this person is awful" - I skipped Furina. I dont like her. And I am running around, under geared, hitting 120k on Navia.

[@smanitagorolebglawal309]

​@@prettypuddinBased Furina hater but also... hitting big numbers on Navia isn't really anything special because she's a very front loaded character and it's really easy to hit big numbers with her

[@socckks]

@@prettypuddin well what they said is that sig makes furina great and thats pretty much her only good BiS teammate and hitting big number on a navia isnt hard the number could be much bigger with furina tho

[@anonymouscommenter2425]

Was really hoping sethos would be a shielder/battery for cyno

[@Gelatussy]

Idk what anyone thinks IM MAKING SETHOS WORK AT ALL COSTS (Cyno will remain level 40 while im leveling Sethos to 80 i don't care)

[@Gelatussy]

I'm not playing hyperbloom anyway

[@Gelatussy]

I'm not reducing him to a simple hyperbloom supports (wait till i don't even get him)

[@wanderinggamer5079]

lol you’ll C6 him. No doubt. I’d go for R5 Slingshot and then Try 2 Pc Em sets. Remember though. DONT USE RUST, his infused attacks count as Charged Atks, Rust only boost Normals. Good Luck.

[@Gelatussy]

@@wanderinggamer5079 C6 four stars are so hard and I don't want the banner characters so I'll have to wait for the next banner he is on but I'll get at least C3 sethos on the 4.7 update (I hope) if not I'll just pull the money I'm on a 50/50 anyways so I hope I don't get alhaitham or clorinde cuz I'd rather have furina

[@Gelatussy]

@@wanderinggamer5079 about the artifacts I'll go 2 wanderers trupe and 2 marachusse since I don't have 4 wanderers

[@rorhoe]

I hope they will tweak Clorinde selfsustain to get a bigger dmage. Just like a usual champion does, its more of damage than sustain. Lol

[@game-pq1si]

Why are all the black characters so damn bad????

[@orfeasza]

Expect minor nerfs ? FUCK THAT CLORINDE NATION WE WON SHE GOT BUFFED

[@tamsaru_1]

Would sigewinne work well with Kokomi? And could sigewinne possibly be made into a dps with good srtifacts?

[@BLHAIRsammich]

I mean my team with Clorinde would probably be some variation of her Raiden kokomi and yae or sucrose so

[@Ngopirek870]

Oneesan,6 years old child,and femboy

[@yoiko89]

Clorinde look like good in Hyper bloom and Quicken meanwhile Sigewinne I don't know lol her Elemental skill so slow to apply and we didn't know if her burst charged don't have interruption resistance. Clorinde look good pick than Sigewinne. Sigewinne kit is the true meaning of Disappointment

[@Coldjams]

Super mad sigewinnie ended up with this kit… I wanted to use my guarantee on her because she’s so adorable along with her atks, but she’s absolutely useless for my teams… 😞

[@idktbh9091]

What's the website you use for these? I used to use project amber for leaks but it stopped working for me idk why

[@Merritt_Maverick]

Regarding your Clorinde weapom calcs, are you assuming the blacksword is r1 or r5 ? (i assume r1), if its r1, how good will r5 black sword be compared to her 5 star sword options ? 🤔🤔

[@anantakabir8390]

r5 black sword should be around 18% - 23% worse than her 5 star sword

[@Merritt_Maverick]

@@anantakabir8390 , 18-23% worse then her signature? I see. How would r5 black sword compare to other 5 star options ? Like a jade cutter ? If u feel like giving a rough estimate. Thanks a lot for the quick response ! I appreciate it.

[@anantakabir8390]

@@Merritt_Maverick so with the new beta update, black sword r5 is ~ 16% worse than her sig. Haran is barely worse than her sig(~1-2% only), mistsplitter is about 6-7% worse than her sig jade is about 10% worse than sig and foliar is about 12-13% worse than her sig. SO r5 black sword is surprisingly really good and only slightly below most of the 5 stars. This is data for aggravate team

[@doracosta1760]

It's so disappointing seeing another slightly darker skin character being so underwhelming :( I'll never forget what they did with Dehya and how terrible and niche they made Xinyan and Candace

[@TheLastAirbender3468]

How will sigeweene perform with navia/chiori/furina compared to Bennett

[@cadeemmusgrove7791]

That itto team was a mirror of Navia’s team. Then does Navia, albedo/chiori, furina, and sige for a better team than the plunge variant?

[@lotusrakuen]

Didn't it said that Sige only apply hydro once from her bubble? How did she maximize ToM then?

[@lokyloky3420]

seemingly on every bubble rebound, and sometimes with a little aoe

[@ShevaAlpha2002]

According to new info from Kyoko, Sigewinne applies hydro on her bubble on 1st hit, 3rd hit, and 5th hit at C0.

[@ldld02]

oh My this is terrible, i mean... WHY not every hit? Its just 5/8 hits man, that definetily won't break the game or nothing like that 😭

[@Tundra_Hunter]

​@@ldld02hoyo scared shitless of making another xingqiu

[@isabellaj4608]

Wish they didn't make sethos a bow user

[@alexandrebatista8600]

Unfortunately almost every electro is dps 😢

[@smanitagorolebglawal309]

Huh? Raiden, Fischl, Beidou, Shinobu...

[@kanashiiinu9124]

More like every electro male character is an onfield unit. Hoyoverse is obsessed w onfield male characters actually, we got no off field males since Fontaine released

[@usmanya5110]

​@@kanashiiinu9124 i forgot when was the last time a male off field unit was released. was it Gorou or Thoma?

[@douji5892]

Doesnt her E dash count as elemental? I saw someone saying thats the reason she doesnt procs c6 fischl and Q xq yelan. Maybe amenoma is good with this

[@elonex1126]

i have read that her e reactivation is considered normal attack damage

[@douji5892]

Who is the healer in the qb and taser teams you mentioned to sustained the pets of furina? Does clorinde's healing to refresh all the time furina's A1 enough to heal the team and gain full fanfare? And can you test a team with clor and yunjin plz

[@cleod7439]

Its not enough to heal all the team for more than 50%, all the team except for Clorinde would be permanently at 50%

[@L0V3LY_MINAKI]

These comments are making me question if i should pull for sigewinne

[@cuakman]

Wait what? clorinde according to calcs was barely at the level of keqing in aggravate comps. After the buffs was a bit stronger but weaker than arlecchino and neuvi. Are you sure your calcs are ok?

[@lancer9257]

she is mid at best but these people are coping, her best team is quickbloom which most electro characters can do. the holy trinity of the hyperbloom is nahida/kuki/xingqiu, the fourth slot is just whatever.

[@cuakman]

@@lancer9257 atm she is not even at lyney//navia level. It's pretty mucho a pre fontaine character, people are crazy.

[@cleod7439]

Emmm yeah, cause arlechino have around 2 times more dps than keqing, and neuvillette have Iike 3 times more dps than keqing. If Clorinde was at keqing level, and they buff her a 12%, that's not enough to make her compete with arlechino.

[@sourgrapes7026]

why is sigewinne's burst underwhelming when the scaling is quite high?

[@LauraJinkins-pi8sv]

Scales off atk, she wants hp%

[@cleod7439]

Sigewinne burst scalling is berely more than 2 yelan skills. That's not too high taking in consideration that it apply almost 0 hydro, and can't enable things like xingchiu, yelan, or C6 fischl, and also have a 70 energy cost

[@Poofiemus]

Is it just me or does Sigewinne sounds like she's meant for characters that haven't released yet??

[@KatBellerose]

Is it time to bench Kuki? I don't wanna but I dunno what else I'd do with Clorinde other than a Hyperblooom xD

[@LongDeadArtist]

Aggravate, Chev Overload, Electrocharged and Hyperbloom are some good teams

[@stevens4957]

Wait, so Sigewinne buffs off field skills? So how can this be best used with Amber? 🤔

[@takedown57]

0.75x squad

[@GeometryDash-gk2de]

Doesn't sige bubble only apply hydro once or was that fake

[@kachowdah1520]

Well it seems like Clorinde and her signature got buffed so now what ? 🧎🏽‍♂️