Our sincere congratulations to Sir Roger Penrose for winning the 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics! Well deserved!
@OpenSecretsMomAnon4 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Very cool
@naturemc24 жыл бұрын
I was wondering some quantum discussions. But, very classical approach to answering the questions. Overall, great insights.
@bartholomewtott38124 жыл бұрын
@dontzenyourselfout ?
@Grandunifiedcelery4 жыл бұрын
I was able to reconfirm how good your selection is! More Nobel laureates must come out of this show!
@ik14084 жыл бұрын
The theory of black holes is a mathematical theory and not a scientific theory. The mathematical theory of black holes looks pretty, and perhaps Dr. Penrose has earned the Nobel price for the sophisticated mathematics of the mathematical theory. But the theory does not have any experimental/observational proof. And the scientific method requires experimental/observational proof to verify any hypothesis/theory. According to the theory of black holes, black holes cannot be observed directly. What you see in books and magazines, TV and internet - those are computer simulations and not real black holes. The indirect evidence of the existence of black holes comes from the accretion disks surrounding the alleged black holes. But other objects can be extremely compact, something like quark stars, for example, to create accretion disks. Which brings us to another huge flaw of the theory of black holes - the assumption that at certain conditions (like those inside a massive collapsing star) nothing can stand against gravitational contraction. This tremendous assumption is made without experimental/observational proof. Therefore, it denies the scientific method. We know that when stars collapse, degenerate pressure of electrons or neutrons stops the gravitational collapse at some point. depending on the mass of the stars. We also know from experiments that when experiments attempt to squeeze quarks too tightly, they exhibit asymptotic freedom that makes further gravitational collapse into a black hole unlikely - the mathematical theory of black holes does not take these experimental facts into consideration at all. Furthermore, if you studied the general relativity theory, you have to know that according to the equations of the General relativity theory, the collapse of a star into a black hole looks differently depending where an observer is. If the observer is very close to the collapsing star, then the collapse is extremely quick. However, for distant observers, the time of the collapse stretches to infinity. Gravitational collapse time dilation = If a black hole is formed by gravitational collapse, then to an outside observer the relativistic time dilation of the event means that it reaches its Schwarzchild limit (and becomes an actual black hole) after an infinite amount of time. Which means that a distant observer would have to wait for eternity to see how the collapsing star finally becomes a black hole. If the equations correct, than we, distant observers, cannot observe black holes and from our point of view those stars in the process of collapse into alleged black holes remain to be observed by us as collapsing stars and not black holes. That is, the theory of black holes tells us that from the point of view of a collapsing star, it has already collapsed and formed a black hole, and from the point of view of external observers, the star has not yet collapsed to form a black hole. Hence, the black hole exists and it does not exist at the same time. But they show us computer-enhanced simulations of black holes and assure us that the black holes are "readily observed." And for the "black hole exists" part, please check again the first part of my comment- there is no observational/experimental proof that the collapse of a neutron star into a black hole is unstoppable.
@rijuchaudhuri4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations to Dr. Penrose. His Nobel Prize had been a long time coming.
@sumdumbmick4 жыл бұрын
yay for getting the dynamite patent money that also goes to mass murderers and pedophiles! whoo!!!
@zhodraa4 жыл бұрын
@@sumdumbmick lol
@sumdumbmick4 жыл бұрын
@@zhodraa I know, I know, there's no place for facts in science... if there were it wouldn't be funny.
@WayneLynch694 жыл бұрын
Richard Pryor told a story of he and his best friend, famous football player Jim Brown. Pryor constantly would show off all his wealth/purchases. Brown never deviated from one topic ONLY: "what about that pipe?" Pryor was desperately addicted to cocaine. "Heat" is Pryor's pipe. ALL the tap dancing fails to remove the epi-phenomenon of heat. It cannot begin....it must always end. It disallows THIS universe beginning....it forecloses on THIS universe being eternal. EVERYTHING Penrose et al contrive is done with the denial that thermodynamics cannot be reconciled. It's the assumption that the universe HAS A NATURAL EXPLANATION/ETIOLOGY. THAT AIN'T SCIENCE....IT'S RELIGION....
@sumdumbmick4 жыл бұрын
@@WayneLynch69 it's not science if we take the espoused definition of science, which is essentially identical to rigor, but it is perfectly fine science as it's actually practiced, which is as a religion.
@Rikimkigsck2 жыл бұрын
I love it when Roger Penrose says "you see" he genuinely wants us to see as he does.
@BillAnt2 жыл бұрын
Well "you see" this video started with a blur (literally), then it became crystal clear. ;D
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
You have, and *can* have, no idea what he " sees", any more than you can experience what another experiences
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
Do you want others to "see" as you do, and if so why?
@jmanj39172 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I'm sure he is (or was -- IDK if he still teaches) one helluva good teacher. If more educators in modern times were as sincere in their efforts as is Dr. Penrose, we (the USA) almost certainly would not be in the current pickle in which we find ourselves with regards to the abysmal state of our population's "education". [Begin ranting in...3...2...1...] You were warned...lol You know, the one where over half of America's high school graduates were unable to find the UNITED FREAKING STATES OF AMERICA on a globe...and That was over twenty years ago. Now, all of those "baby Einsteins" are so-called "adults" who keep themselves busy by convincing themselves, each other, and any other dull minds they can reach, that the earth is either flat, hollow, or both, and the moon is hollow, and etc., etc. Yessir, we're just BEGGING for another group to take the lead in world affairs, which won't end well for us, at least not if you prefer English (or any other Romantic language) over Cantonese. Or, maybe it's just the freedom to be or to do...Anything of Your choice, really, that appeals to you, rather than living where you're told to live, working where you're told to work, gaining access to a very, VERY short list of government approved and government edited programming over the airwaves, and ditto the interwebs. Yeah, the USA is, unquestionably, filling itself with Eloi, ripe for the picking. We are voluntarily expediting the wholesale slaughter of our bodies, our minds, our freedoms, and our property, to name just a few of the things we will lose before all is said and done, should we continue to fail our youth (and ourselves) in education, as we have been doing for several decades now. (SNS for the rant...lol. I just hope that maybe...MAYBE...if more people who HAVEN'T grown old, grown filthy rich, and permanently affixed themselves as a Neverending Part of our dysfunctional Political System [I'm looking at YOU, Congressmen and -women (and members of the Executive Branch, of course) who have been screwing...uhhh, Serving...I meant SERVING!...the People of our great nation for longer than I've been alive -- you g*ddamned jackals...you power hungry crooked SOBs!]... ...MAYBE, if we make enough noise about this problem then it might get fixed. But I doubt it, because that would require several attributes which are all in short supply in this country these days. I'm talking about things like values that are based on ethics rather than on a "Me! Me! Me!" mentality. I'm talking about working for what you have. And I'm also talking about The Big One -- Personal Accountability, which has become more or less nonexistent nowadays thanks to an increasingly coarse media which glorifies murdering, raping, stealing, cheating on your spouse, stealing from anyone and everyone you can, being lazy, believing that you're some kind of "badass gangsta!" (as if That is somehow a worthy and valuable goal...), and on and on and on...like this rant! And it ALL starts in our homes; our broken homes, which are at BEST dysfunctional even IF the parents stay together, and on and on... But that's a whole new, different (but connected) rant for another time... *SIGH*
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
@@jmanj3917 Those that abuse capital letters(clearly unwittingly) emphasis *nothing* but the hysteria of the abuser.
@edwardgrabczewski Жыл бұрын
This is a great video about how theoretical physicists hypothesise about the Universe, getting help from mathematicians to identify the mathematics needed to express these ideas, and come up with a theory that experimental physycists and astrophysicists can use to make observations to verify the theories. We're very fortunate to have an intellectually honest theorist like Roger Penrose to explain these ideas without any pretence that they are nothing more than ideas at this stage, whereas some scientists like to promote their ideas in the media, giving the rest of us the impression that their hypotheses are accepted by the scientific community when in fact they are simply promoting them.
@fang_xianfu4 ай бұрын
I liked how at one point he said "I've changed my mind" and then corrected himself to say it's an idea he's working on that his thinks is promising.
@alejandrocurado51343 ай бұрын
The JWST is already proving Penrose's theories
@sohailasghar86842 ай бұрын
Mathematics is the language of nature ,
@rayoperator26994 жыл бұрын
I didn’t understand anything, but its fine i can memorise and repeat everything to make me look smart when i’m explaining physics to my dog.
@dabbbles4 жыл бұрын
GOOD ONE! My dog used philosophical metaphysics to learn that next-door's cat travelling at twice the speed of sound is not to be trifled with! ;)
@rosros27954 жыл бұрын
Well,you should use the feynman technique
@dabbbles4 жыл бұрын
@@rosros2795 There really ARE slots for everything in creation, aren't there? I'd never heard of this bloke, but have lived a long and volatile life in line with his principles. I put it down to the gift of a very high IQ and a memory that never forgot anything. (learned to play chess in a couple of hours and was playing in the state team a few weeks later. ) Also learned Shakespearean plays verbatim after two or three readings (to argue AGAINST the value of Shakespeare!) and used to explain the connection between the two: had a sense of the inherent mathematics of chess being evident in Shakespeare's work, and the philosophy of Shakespeare being clearly evident in chess. I always just assumed it was the job of the brain to make those sorts of connections so's the whole 'creation' could be sensed as a whole. But unfortunately my dog's brain doesn't work like that!
@rosros27954 жыл бұрын
@@dabbbles I was just kidding man...
@dabbbles4 жыл бұрын
@@rosros2795 That's ok. Just that I'd never heard of Feynman (despite being fairly widely read over many years), so I checked him out on google and immediately recognised myself in a way I never had before. For example, I often ask for definition of an issue or a word/concept because it ties all the other bits together into a kind of mesh that stores in my brain as sort of a picture. These days you might say 'the way hard-drive works' Quite uncanny! Cheers
@slappop70824 жыл бұрын
For a guy close to 90, Roger looks amazing and has as sharp a mind as ever. Also a total professional: note how he seamlessly repeats himself after the interruption at 09:55 to provide an opportunity to do an edit at that point.
@MrEnjoivolcom14 жыл бұрын
This was definitely some years ago, 12-20 years I'd guess. His is visibly much older than this now. Personally, I like his voice now as opposed to younger days such as this.
@Declan-pg8cg4 жыл бұрын
Definitely. No doubt an amazing man. A well deserved accolade.
@ezeqeel83524 жыл бұрын
He never stop learning. Researching. Pursuing for new discoveries. When you don't give up, the chase keeps you young.
@danielmark67794 жыл бұрын
Exactly! That was my impression listening to him answering questions at such an advanced age! He looks and sounds unbelievably young! God bless him even more!
@KabbalahDecoded4 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but he does not have the arrogance of some scientists
@TheGodpharma3 жыл бұрын
I've heard or read about Roger Penrose and his work countless times over the years, but I honestly think this is the first time I've ever seen him on screen. He seems to be an amazingly good communicator so I don't know why we don't see more of him. Brilliant man.
@stuartmccall54742 жыл бұрын
As a humble man perhaps he is not overly interested in himself as being "me", a characteristic perhaps others could do well to follow?
@GreaseMonkey0972 жыл бұрын
@@stuartmccall5474 He is from a different time my friend. A far different generation that no longer exist or is just fading away. I believe the societal concept of "Individualism" will be studied longer after I'm gone from this place and the effects it had on the people resent today. I am 25 years old though so I do hope I get to read and understand it before I go!
@stuartmccall54742 жыл бұрын
@@GreaseMonkey097 : Perhaps? I think also his origins were an influence. Individualism, in its nowadays classically accepted definition or form, is a construct more at home in US Society as a requisite of "pursuing the dream" towards the amassing of money and what it can bring, this necessitating a significant degree self centeredness and ruthlessness rather then just a degree of the same. Obviously this is a general observation and not absolute. If you compare Sir Roger with Paul Dirac, Alan Turing and Stephen Hawking etc., they all worked with a team of others in order to have others to bounce their ideas off and were all very modest individuals. I think working in a vacuum is the more difficult way to make progress, as all that does is confirm your own brilliance.
@GreaseMonkey0972 жыл бұрын
@@stuartmccall5474 I completely agree! The future of the Science's should continue to be the collaborative effort of the intelligent. It's the only way we have progressed this far to begin with. Looking forward I do not believe Individualism, as a molding affect on society or simply just a way of Life, will impact the Science's that much. Maybe that is the beauty of culture though. The work is done as backdrop noise by the people who cared enough to do it.
@harrybrown5827 Жыл бұрын
Are these people just searching for God.???
@JulianShagworthy Жыл бұрын
9:53 The sheer amount of energy required to verbalise such abstract concepts actually caused books to start falling out of their shelves behind the interviewer. The small inflection of happiness across Penrose's face is as a result of a bet he made decades earlier when an identical thing occurred while explaining quantum dynamics to a classmate. The classmate said that if he could do that again, he'd pay for him to have a lapdance.
@jemhoare2105 Жыл бұрын
It's just Matthew McConaughey sneaking around in the 5th dimension.
@afreenreads3313 Жыл бұрын
Such imagination !😂
@emjayhiphop33669 ай бұрын
@@jemhoare2105 😂😂😂😂😂
@fierce-green-fire88879 ай бұрын
@@afreenreads3313 imagination? Maybe. It’s also derivative from the bet made by Hawking and Thorne.
@IIAnaxiezzII9 ай бұрын
This was so delightfully and creatively random I’ve given you a like. Really made me smile. 😂
@arunganapathy95014 жыл бұрын
I was lost - totally lost for most of this- but was still fascinated enough to listen and watch through to the end. Who else is like me?
@TheWeirdSide14 жыл бұрын
The universe is alive and forgets how big/how small it is...what's not to understand lol? ...keep in mind, these nobel prize winning geniuses haven't a clue how the universe works. It's all best guesses leading to more questions. We try to understand existence by using logic/math, yet we have no idea if that will work or not. You're lost because we are all lost. He's talking about things that only math can make sense of. Infinity, for example, is not a real thing, or at least we don't know if it is or not. it might be and his theories might be correct. But we don't know. Just my 2 cents. I'm lost also:)
@T0mat0S0up4 жыл бұрын
@@TheWeirdSide1 You're both lost because you're idiots. Its totally conceivable.
@mariodebuck94204 жыл бұрын
We all r
@TheWeirdSide14 жыл бұрын
@William White Clearly my comment went above your head. Try actually understanding what I wrote. You shouted, "logical fallacy" using logical fallacy..lol!
@TheWeirdSide14 жыл бұрын
@@T0mat0S0up Well said. Now please learn how to read, dumbass.
@stiffyvokes24044 жыл бұрын
"I come to you because you have some unique-ass insights" -Robert Lawrence Kuhn
@diseasedleginc.65284 жыл бұрын
i’m fucking dead
@marcushendriksen84154 жыл бұрын
I heard that too, thought I must have imagined it...
@SahilP26484 жыл бұрын
I think he had an adjective in mind starting with 'as-' but ended up dropping mid sentence and this is the result lol
@christopherallen11384 жыл бұрын
"Big if true." -Robert Lawrence Kuhn
@marcushendriksen84154 жыл бұрын
"My name is Robert Lawrence Kuhn" - Robert Lawrence Kuhn
@3dgar7eandro Жыл бұрын
I just love how Sir Roger Penrose explains a concept so difficult to grasp as a Universe before the big Bang where "time" in a sense doesn't existed or passed as we are used to experience in our universe, in a way that even people that don't have a physics background can understand. What a remarkable man 😁👌👌.
@campbellmorrison8540 Жыл бұрын
There is nothing like listening to somebody who knows what they are talking about, they have the ability to explain it to people like me and use analogies and the like to allow me to visualise what it a very difficult theory etc. In addition they don't get lost and confused when asked questions during their explanation, they just respond to the question and go back on track and that I suggest is because what they are talking about is very clear in their mind and hence it is easy for them to talk about it
@scotty57754 жыл бұрын
I keep watching these videos thinking that some day I'll make it past 30 seconds before I'm completely lost. A man needs to have a dream.
@mikewatt87064 жыл бұрын
Smoke a joint first
@scotty57754 жыл бұрын
@@mikewatt8706 Great idea!
@kerryburns60414 жыл бұрын
@@mikewatt8706 I did as you advised but now I´m wondering how an infinite universe can be expanding ....
@Paine1374 жыл бұрын
@@kerryburns6041 Expansion feeds infinity.
@kerryburns60414 жыл бұрын
@@Paine137 You cannot be Sirius.
@quahntasy4 жыл бұрын
*The end is the beginning* Congratulations Sir Roger Penrose.
@KabbalahDecoded4 жыл бұрын
Sefer Yetzirah (Book of Formation, a kabbalistic work): The end is wedged in the beginning and the beginning in the end
@whatsup23104 жыл бұрын
The universe was not keeping time in the beginning. Given relativistic speeds ( even exceeding C during inflation) how can we say 1 how old the universe is ( how do we correct for the time dilation when particles were moving at these speeds?) 2 there was ever a “before” the universe
@timokaaarp77794 жыл бұрын
Donuts
@fisikalectures5974 жыл бұрын
why do i literally see you everyhwere
@dabbbles4 жыл бұрын
@@KabbalahDecoded WOW!! KINKY!
@delq4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations to Sir Rogen Penrose for winning the Nobel Prize !
@randallrogers63504 жыл бұрын
Sir Roger winning is a stark contrast to Obama "winning" the Nobel Prize, who had accomplished absolutely nothing.
@thomasneal92914 жыл бұрын
@@randallrogers6350 the two committees judge entirely different things. and frankly, doing "nothing" was a far cry better than doing the "something" that BushCo did.
@Tony-oi3mw4 жыл бұрын
@@randallrogers6350 That Kissinger is a nobel laureate vacated a substantial amount of the prize's meaning long ago.
@AlanIsHarmony4 жыл бұрын
@@randallrogers6350 Trump paid his taxes "in advance". That's a shout-out for morons everywhere.
@ricomajestic3 жыл бұрын
@@Tony-oi3mw Don't confuse Nobel Prize in Physics with Nobel Peace Prize which has become politicized!
@charlesdarienzo6686 Жыл бұрын
I follow and understood the concept and it’s beautiful in its simplicity. I don’t follow the math, though. I can listen to Sir Roger talk all day long. He’s so humble and seems so grandfatherly.
@mikehorton25913 жыл бұрын
Not a clue what he's on about but still so fascinating.
@ac-gp3kz3 жыл бұрын
I know right? Would love to be able to visualise and understand this stuff.
@GeeTheBuilder3 жыл бұрын
Same. Wonderful video.
@troubletyme55613 жыл бұрын
😂I read this prior too watching….. perfectly described what I thought about this shit
@RichLydd3 жыл бұрын
With you there Mike! Understand for about a nanosecond then I'm gone, but I love the fact that I am. God knows we need super smart people.
@tomd14343 жыл бұрын
Yup. I feel special after listening to him.
@davidfarrall2 жыл бұрын
Many congratulations to Sir Roger Penrose for his long lived and brilliant career, working with Stephen Hawking and many others. His copious Mathematical Works have enriched the World over the last 70 years.
@BILLY-px3hw Жыл бұрын
Thanks to R.L. Kuhn for not interupting Roger and allowing him to jabber on to complete his ideas, many interveiwers are constantly inserting themselves and become a distraction
@rossglory46314 жыл бұрын
he's not afraid to put these wonderful ideas out there to say how they fare. and congratulations to roger penrose for his nobel prize.
@kennethyoung1053 жыл бұрын
There numbers that they just made up they don't even know if that math exists.
@Earthstein14 күн бұрын
This is my subject. We are blessed to have Roger.
@gregsocks6754 жыл бұрын
A large part of me is happy I understood perhaps 1% of what he said.
@cindyr97044 жыл бұрын
1%? If I got 1-10th of 1% I'd have a PHD.
@steffybabes4 жыл бұрын
He was simplifying it you know. ???
@skepticangel2864 жыл бұрын
😄 I have the same feeling..
@steffybabes4 жыл бұрын
Hé wasn’t speaking technically. He was speaking in broad terms to provide general understanding of the concepts.
@steffybabes4 жыл бұрын
Jees!
@paulmulenga87423 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful way of talking about physics. Didn't understand a thing,but somehow what he said resonates with me.
@gisellesinclair68112 жыл бұрын
I second that.
@allensmith3424 жыл бұрын
Listening to Penrose is like having a narrated acid trip.
@DrummahMike4 жыл бұрын
I had to take acid so I wouldn't freak out
@expattaffy19544 жыл бұрын
OK folks, Proof this guy is talking nonsense. He misses out the most important factor. GOD let me give you all a chance to stretch your brains and convinve you all of a superior inteligence to begin with. let me give you all a video here by me, and ask all of you if any of you can solve tyhis mystery, I bet the author of this video hasnt got a clue kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZLSZWWDZ9uFf9k OK folks all study this video and see if any of you can decipher this alien message. I will put up the video that displays the message in a week or so. good luck
@ViratKohli-jj3wj4 жыл бұрын
@@expattaffy1954 shut up. God is gay
@mcgeorge4 жыл бұрын
@@expattaffy1954 i think you may have taken to much acid
@johnw2184 жыл бұрын
@@expattaffy1954 if there is a God, I think he would be ok with us humans trying to understand this stuff. It's not much different from humans working out how we breathe, the discovery of gravity, how to make a combustion engine etc etc just another discovery bout how reality works. Just as wondrous, probably more, than a great magician in the sky waving his wand and kapoof! creating it all in a day .
@ololo940 Жыл бұрын
He just made my life worth more. I always believed there must be something before the big bang which may be unimaginable, but it never crossed my mind that size is just a number.
@joec_lrp10703 жыл бұрын
This concept is absolutely amazing. I love the idea of infinity being like a place that you never get to, until you realize you are already there, and things have already changed. That seems like the purest nature of what infinity could be.
@lianasammartino84903 жыл бұрын
In Plato times, numbers had a DIVINE connotation that has been lost today.....
@alang.20543 жыл бұрын
but ccc doesent work, I can explain u that
@textech40563 жыл бұрын
The Universe created something to observe itself.
@nmkzf3 жыл бұрын
infinity is the other side where you are not now at it. (Where one is it is here and infinity is on the other side.)
@alang.20543 жыл бұрын
@@nmkzf proof?
@Boogieplex4 жыл бұрын
This man is a living genius as great as they come..Congratulations Sir Roger Penrose on a well earned Noble Prize.
@mrcapitalist22854 жыл бұрын
LOL
@markbeames78524 жыл бұрын
He's not a genius. The last one true genius was Leonardo DiVinci
@martycott4 жыл бұрын
Not as famous as Stephen Hawking for obvious reasons but equally brilliant
@sebastianwendelbo54532 жыл бұрын
@@markbeames7852 roger penrose is a million times smarter than leonardo davinci
@markbeames78522 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianwendelbo5453 lets not get into an unprovable and unnessesary debate.
@JoaoSilva-on4od2 жыл бұрын
For an absolute ignorant like myself this was intense, but absolutely brilliant. The clock metaphor for the time and matter correlation is strinkingly simple and jawdropping. Never before had I seen such a simple and clear way to put it. From then on the concept becomes accessible for a total ignoramous like me to being able to at least follow the rest of the conversation. Also, the way it is put also leads me to think as time as a dimension of its own due to the close relationship it holds with the very nature of space. Not a new concept for me but now I feel like I get a true reason why for it. Of course, for a physicist, what I am saying may be of the most basic intellectual incompetence, but I find it so astounashingly fascinanting that I can't hold myself from sharing my deepest respect for the minds that can trully grasp this.
@brooklyna007 Жыл бұрын
There are interesting correlations between Position/Velocity, Position/Frequency, Space/Time and the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. The core math is conjugate variables. but the fact that all these things are perfect analogies of each other makes me feel like that time is just the frequency of space at some weird fundamental level.
@timflippance3040 Жыл бұрын
@@brooklyna007 YEAH! Make a video explaining your idea more?
@brooklyna007 Жыл бұрын
@@timflippance3040 I would love to. But I am responsible for a family and an engineering team and they are taking all my time. =)
@brooklyna007 Жыл бұрын
@@timflippance3040 But I am happy to answer any questions about the above on this thread.
@kebman2 ай бұрын
I had a brilliant physics and astronomy teacher in the 90's. His name was Franck W. Pettersen, RIP. He was head of the Tromsø Aurora Planetarium back in the day, but he grew tired of it, because he only showed the guests "touristy" things there, when he really wanted to explore the deep ideas about the universe itself. So, he quit that job and became a teacher at a nearby high school. His idea was that there could probably be more than one universe, and or perhaps a kind of string of universes like Penrose suggests here. It was just a hunch he had, so to speak, but either way, having him as a teacher was an honour, not just for me, but for most of the other pupils who was greatly inspired by him.
@Upstreamprovider4 жыл бұрын
We're so lucky to be living in this age with so much knowledge.
@timokaaarp77794 жыл бұрын
Yet, humanity seems hell bent on death by ignorance.
@skyjack85414 жыл бұрын
Lmsolllllllll
@mitchellc43 жыл бұрын
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
@lordemed13 жыл бұрын
you think this is good?..wait another 100 yrs or so, haha
@mememe1073 жыл бұрын
The more knowledge the more ignorant tiny and fragile we seem
@apparaodasari26934 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Sir , for winning the 2020 Nobel prize in Physics .
@prioris555553 жыл бұрын
We live in electromagnetic based universe. Our universe is plasma / electric universe. Penrose is full of crap. Blackholes are fiction. Big Bang Theory is fiction. Subatomic physics is full of fraud.
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
what does some gang of mice handing out prizes signify? by 'mice' I mean nothings and bodies.
@marcusdolby12 жыл бұрын
This is actually AMAZING. Instead of a cold death with no mass or reason for time, the Universe becomes reorganized through cosmic radiation.
@mjsmcdАй бұрын
Walking down the street one day a big bang occured in me A powerful anxiety or naked fear hit me and it. Took an hour to dissopate I reasoned that it had been buried inside me for years secretly controlling me After it's released and my awareness of its existence my addictions gradually left and i had a deeper understanding the hidden forces that controlled me May our understanding of the big bang lead to a better understanding of our exiistence as a species as well.
@sukumarjana123812 күн бұрын
It is an honour to hear from such a great man like Roger Penrose
@thehomme2 жыл бұрын
While I know I didn’t understand a lot I still found it fascinating and engaging. And I did take away the key idea that the universe is “constantly” flip flopping between being infinitely small and then infinitely big. Like scaling an image you can drag it to nothing and if you keep dragging it starts to expand but is now a mirror image of itself. I guess all I’m say is Thank you for making me think
@dm.61334 жыл бұрын
The number of PhDs acquired is proportional to the layers of clothes one can wear without breaking a sweat
@ikiseikel4 жыл бұрын
Today I learned I'm going to fail my PhD
@Second_Letter_B814 жыл бұрын
Perspiration Hitherto Denied lol
@tomsonfire37404 жыл бұрын
no, libraries are just cold
@castironkev4 жыл бұрын
Dani Manrique M. Sooo funny lol Also sad, after realizing I mostly wear a t shirt
@richardcarew47084 жыл бұрын
degrees show how well you answer questions on tests.. and.. how good you were as a grad student slave for your doctoral advisor and overseers.. ☆☆☆ despite much advertising to the contrary . .. education is not something someone else does to us.. it's what we do to satisfy our own curiosity
@lordemed14 жыл бұрын
Sir Roger is the best of the best. Brilliance, humanness, and common sense.
@jacksonmorganfroghin48153 жыл бұрын
What about the invisible realm? I didn't hear Sir Roger mention it at all. Did you?
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
means what?
@hiersdable2 жыл бұрын
The universe needed to exist because my personal awesomeness was simply irresistible.
@emergentform11882 жыл бұрын
I love Penrose, he's always been a fav of mine and I've read several his books as well which were amazing. Legend. This chat here is super engaging and entertaining.
@66gassy663 жыл бұрын
Wife: "What are you watching "? Me: " Errrrrrr I,ll explain it to you later".
@markthorning63583 жыл бұрын
She thinks I was talking about the series
@MegaParrotMan3 жыл бұрын
This is basically Space Porn.
@Razrman3 жыл бұрын
@@MegaParrotMan and it’s pretty hardcore
@papagen003 жыл бұрын
she wants big bang bang.
@robmanzoni57664 жыл бұрын
This man has a fascinating view; and a wonderful way of expressing things
@AntoinMhicArtain3 жыл бұрын
I don't think he's good at explaining what he means
@edwardlee2794 Жыл бұрын
Boy, it's incredible! So Mass = frequency (and there is the time ticking). Time is money is just a human version of ultimate anthro-cosmo relationship. After 200000yrs, we found out now. Great interview, educational and entertaining. Thanks for the effort and keep up the good work
@kevinmm204 жыл бұрын
9:53 That's the universe beginning to feel just a little uncomfortable about what Sir Roger Penrose is saying
@jade82453 жыл бұрын
Hahah 🙌
@T.image793 жыл бұрын
More like 9:54/55. But yes. The joke was genius.
@fins593 жыл бұрын
Or maybe it was when the bicycle horn went off.
@TheAmericanDane3 жыл бұрын
Extremely intelligent but also has the common sense to hold position, wait for the background noise to dissipate and repeat what he had said before the noise.
@athenianheretic33953 жыл бұрын
Dear CTT, thank you for your effort to bring in such a distinguished guest as Dr. Penrose. Also thank you for taking advantage of his wisdom on such an interesting and fun topic. Your channel and its contents are a precious contribution to public science education that helps us humans to become better species. Warm regards from a subscriber.
@andrewmeneely97742 жыл бұрын
YES THE gorgon speaks.... BUT WILL SHATNER have mercy
@drccbiswas61762 жыл бұрын
Topic is sensationally beautiful & most demanding . It is touched , which is highly rewarding . Prof Dr CCBISWAS .
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
If only someone would ask, or would have asked the Penrose fellow exactly what he seeks to convey by " the universe", I guarantee you he would not be able to tell you without waffling and you_knowing, or as is said beating about the bush.
@clooktout2 жыл бұрын
Emphasis on fun, because that is what it is!!!!!
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
"Better" in what sense and by what measure?-likeable?
@michaelfosco25313 жыл бұрын
“Oh yea, I understand you completely man. Science and space and stuff, totally get it all”
@alphabasic17594 ай бұрын
I love Penrose. He’s such an easy to understand and thoughtful person. His ideas are always so innovative.
@JayakrishnanNairOmana3 жыл бұрын
"It is pretty hard to bore a photon" - Sir Penrose Has to be the most deeply insightful yet equally hilarious statement I ever heard.
@ronaldmorgan76323 жыл бұрын
We can make 'light' of it...
@russellnorth14183 жыл бұрын
lets go with " deeply insightful " and yes I agree 💕
@kavindrachetna3 жыл бұрын
Ha Ha.. Believing in Big Bang itself requires perhaps more faith then believing in God. You have to be a true follower (of Big Bang) to appreciate it without questioning.
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
when you last experienced " a photon" , how did you know what you were experiencing was " a photon"?
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
@@kavindrachetna no arguing with that, bravo.
@wikiemol23 жыл бұрын
Can we all just stop for a second to appreciate the fact that Roger Penrose said "Whoop, there it is" at 11:08
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
sum up for me exactly what he 'did' say.
@js27-a5t2 жыл бұрын
@@vhawk1951kl Dude why are you such a troll? Give it up already
@uptown36363 жыл бұрын
When Sir Roger finally built up to the possible similarities between the very remote past and the very remote future, with the exception of scale, for which there will be no meaningful measure, my jaw actually dropped. What an elegant concept! This video is also an excellent demonstration of how individual notions build on each other within and eventually between generations of scientists.
@BassGoBomb3 жыл бұрын
Me too .. couldn't agree more .. 'elegant concept' indeed .. :-)
@vinaytripathi1573 жыл бұрын
Dear uptown 3636, Thank you so much for putting it all together into a statement which perhaps will make sense to all of us out there who can now relate and reverberate more clearly with what they felt like and thought after listening to Sir Roger...
@jishnuraj98663 жыл бұрын
I have a doubt . during Big bang temperature is highest. And in future which sir refer here , temperature will be lowest and all photons will be in low energy state. Then how temperature will increase and initiate a new big bang in future. Can anyone help
@stephen24373 жыл бұрын
@@jishnuraj9866 I think what he's saying is that its not the absolute temperature that's important but the relative temperature that matters. So rather than thinking of the big bang as the hottest and the distant future as the coldest its more that at the big bang temperature was uniform, meaning at maximum entropy, and in the distant future it will be uniform, equally meaning maximum entropy, and with maximum entropy comes the inability to measure time and with it measure anything else. So I think in the same way that he said that the universe would forget it's size with no way to measure it, it would also forget it's absolute temperature as there would also be no way to measure that.
@jishnuraj98663 жыл бұрын
@@stephen2437 I think as per second law of thermodynamics entropy is increasing with time and irreversible without outside interference. It's just a measure of vibration of particles. At the big bang temperature was high and entropy lowest .
@saeedshahbazian988911 ай бұрын
I'm fascinated by some theories of Penrose, specifically what he talks about in this video. The most interesting part is watching Sir Roger explain these theories in an everyday manner. I couldn't do that
@pcpoliceliveleak57354 жыл бұрын
To all the fans of Sir Roger Penrose I highly recommend reading his book The Emporer's New Mind. He goes into much more depth about his theory on what preceeded the Big Bang. He also goes into detail about how algorithms work and why computer algorithms cannot mimic human thinking or consciousness even in principle. A very excellent read that will leave AI cheerleaders quite butt hurt.
@russellmillar71324 жыл бұрын
Did SRP literally write.."computer algorithms cannot mimic human thinking or consciousness"? Which were his stated definitions for "thinking" and " consciousness"? Does " cannot ", mean, " at the present time ", or, " we can safely assume that this will always be the case"? I'll read his book, but has to go at the end of a long reading list. Thanks..
@mexdal4 жыл бұрын
@Al Garnier some say that the future already exists!
@naysneedle57074 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation, sounds really interesting, I'm off to read it.
@jedaaa4 жыл бұрын
Algorithms are just brute force logic, nobody seriously thinking about the next generation of AI would rely souly on them, that's not how the brain works.
@naimulhaq96264 жыл бұрын
I was hoping the Plank's data will be shown, but with two confirmations (99.98%) I wonder why picture of the CMB was not shown and explained.
@rockyourpain46834 жыл бұрын
Thank you for finding the words... so regular people (like me) can have a glimpse on such deep, beautiful and complex theme. I’m amazed!
@MatthewBorn883 жыл бұрын
“Whoop there it is” - Roger Penrose
@Nathan-jq1uw3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that was awesome.
@be4st8563 жыл бұрын
Shakalaka shakalaka
@ciesinsk2 жыл бұрын
First of all: The spoken English alone is a symphony to my mind. The scale invariance idea sounds really interesting.
@ketchup53444 жыл бұрын
"Eternity is no big deal to a photon" Remember that next time youre waiting in the queue outside the bank standing two metres apart
@vips0784 жыл бұрын
This will be like eternity to us.
@dabbbles4 жыл бұрын
Think laterally. Carry a gun. No waiting. (pays well, too.)
@dabbbles4 жыл бұрын
????? who stands in the queue? Breeze into the bank, head for the teller's cage coughing and spluttering all over the place, and you'd be amazed how quickly the queue disappears! That might be the very reason god created the virus. (and "saw that it was good")
@SDL-xu7em4 жыл бұрын
@@dabbbles 🤪
@dabbbles3 жыл бұрын
@DR Rvps Aakash hmmmm. So you're saying relativity is relative?
@katieleporte70873 жыл бұрын
Every time he says “you see” I really wish I could see it. 🤣 I understand these ideas almost like it’s all part of a dream and I just woke up and the more I try to remember the dream the more it evaporates.
@lovemakestheworldgoround67263 жыл бұрын
Nicely expressed 😊👌🏼 I was thinking and feeling the same but cdn't think of expressing it in such an articulate way 👌🏼👍
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
Are you not at all interested in why that is and could not possibly be otherwise?
@katieleporte70872 жыл бұрын
@@vhawk1951kl of course I am interested in all of these types of discussions! I love how these abstract ideas become concrete realities as scientific exploration continues and answers are found.
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
perhaps like trying to catch or escape from, your shadow?
@nickfoxy4 жыл бұрын
Very well deserved Nobel prize Roger. Absolutely love listening to his interviews especially on his work with anaesthetist Stuart Hammerof. I genuinely think their work is as close as it gets to possibly identifying the roots of consciousness. Roger can probably also create the equations to prove it....
@delq4 жыл бұрын
Yes ! the orchestrated reduction theory is the only contender for a "theory of consciousness"
@quantacipher4 жыл бұрын
A short clip to celebrate Noble Prize winning of Roger Penrose:kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3XYd2lqqa2Gqrs
@delq4 жыл бұрын
@@realitycheck1231 thanks
@Bob123Max Жыл бұрын
Here Penrose explains his theory where the beginning is also the end! Profound. As a small child I used to have "scale invariance" nightmares believe it or not - where what I held between my thumb and forefinger was no different to some huge object in outer space. It was all the same. I love the reference to Echer's angels and devils!
@sunnyjim13553 жыл бұрын
I'm just a layman with just an 'A Level' grasp of Mathematics, who has only dipped in and out of such concepts (over 40 years), but this guy sounded consistent with what I know and understand about this subject. And he was clear to say "I'm not saying this is true, it's just a speculation to consider" - that was exactly how Copernicus expressed his idea of a Heliocentric system. However...just because in the past concepts that were thought to be impossible turned out to have some credence, doesn't mean that all such dubious concepts will eventually have relevance. Sadly, I continually find that people don't understand the fundamental thing about 'science' (which is just the application of the 'scientific method') that it doesn't seek to 'prove' anything - it actually seeks to disprove everything (via scientific methods) and what we can't disprove, is the best we have. This guy gets THAT! So, for me, he is a real scientist, and I so respect that.
@TheDilutedTruth3 жыл бұрын
It really shows how great a mind he is to be able to explain such a complex concept in relatable language
@ryancganim3 жыл бұрын
It shows how much he knows about the subject, great scientist right there.
@0The0Web03 жыл бұрын
I do like this idea of the end being the next start
@thetruthshed3 жыл бұрын
You'd probably like Genesis to Revelation then. Its the older version of some modern physics tales.
@dynamicflashy3 жыл бұрын
@@thetruthshed Lol. I laugh at Christians who think the religion they happened to have been born into is the correct religion out of the thousands to have ever existed and currently exist. No, this has nothing to with Revelation.
@thetruthshed3 жыл бұрын
@@dynamicflashy well your laughing at something. But I wasn't raised or born into being a Christian. Read the whole Bible and maybe you will see. I sometimes laugh at my old self for thinking I was so smart while being an "atheist" and thinking I was so not religious. God loves people, but you don't have to love Him back if you choose not to, but that'd be a bad choice on your part. Keep laughing if you want. Jesus wept. So do I at times. Peace to you and your friends and family.
@thetruthshed3 жыл бұрын
@@dynamicflashy I suggest you study religions, history, science and philosophy. You may then realize there's basically only ever been two "religions" or ways. Faith in God and faith in something or someone that is not God.
@dynamicflashy3 жыл бұрын
@@thetruthshed I have studied those things at great length. Heck, I was a Christian for 20 years. Philosophy is my bread and butter. Also, I have extensive knowledge of Christianity, Judaism and Islam, to name a few. Faith in God? A singular god? What about all the thousands of religions that have multiple gods? Even Christianity effectively has multiple Gods (see Trinity), even though many within the religion (who are seemingly confused by the their own religion) don't understand this. 98% of people either believe what they believe due to the family and community they were born into, or they were forcefully converted.
@woodygilson3465 Жыл бұрын
"The universe forgets how big it is." Brilliant! That's the part of Conformal Cyclic Cosmology I hadn't quite been able to grasp.
@blovehana2 жыл бұрын
A unique talent to explain math and physics for the layman to understand. He is a very good speaker.
@thegreathadoken68084 жыл бұрын
11:08 "Whoop, there it is!" Sir Roger Penrose.
@rosros27954 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@Manonsilvermountain3 жыл бұрын
Very well deserved win of Noble Prize 2020, Dr. Penrose is one the the few physicists who contemplates on "consciousness" in a proper manner.
@RP-ch8yn2 жыл бұрын
His speculative albeit interesting views on consciousness had nothing to do with his nobel prize... His contribution to actual theoretical physics research in the form of proving and deriving the Singularity theorems is what got him the prize. His ”theory of consciousness” isn’t actual science. It’s just playful and creative speculation by a brilliant mind.
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
Clearly any fool can get one of those nonsense prizes.
@RP-ch8yn2 жыл бұрын
@@vhawk1951kl Yeah any fool with a phd in mathematical physics who has proven the singularity theorems, been an author in hundreds of some of the most notable and influential scientific research publications of the last 100 years, discovered new features like Penrose tilings, Terrel -rotation etc and changed tensor calculus forever. Oh wait I forgot that you don’t have any training in or even the slightest clue about differential and algebraic geometry and how they relate to spacetime because you’d prefer to just act edgy in yt comments as if you should be taken seriously when in reality you never even put the work in to study the subjects let alone get a degree in physics or mathematics. But with a bit of humility and diligence you could learn these subjects like anyone else.
@BennyAscent2 жыл бұрын
@@vhawk1951kl Go on then. Go and get your fool's prize.
@BalefulBunyip Жыл бұрын
So wonderful that he is still thinking outside of the box. Doesn't feel the need to write yet another paper on inflationary theory but would rather tackle truly big issues with truly revolutionary ideas, and ideas that most importantly can be tested.
@marcos92043 жыл бұрын
Brillant man and a great communicator. Only in a few occasions I’ve listened to someone conveying such difficult mathematics concepts so elegantly simple.
@yesicanhearyouclemfandango3 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%.
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant or not he has absolutely no idea what he means by " the universe" or " reality", and certainly no more of an idea than you do and both of you have no idea at all.
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
What does " brilliant mean and why do you suppose the old fool that cannot define his terms to be " brilliant"?
@madhusudanjeurkar31784 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Sir Roger Penrose! Amazing genius with modesty to admit that this is a mathematics, and physical reality could br different.
@OhevTorathMoshe3 жыл бұрын
"I have another idea which I'm pursuing which has a reasonable chance of being right." Awesome humility.
@HaakonOdinsson23 күн бұрын
Always got time to listen to this man. Absolutely brilliant mind
@asunasposibol4 жыл бұрын
1 the link between frequency and time, so simple and yet so strong. 2 "the universe forgets how big it is", like "there's no need to continue this. Let's start all over". Powerful ideas.
@thewiseoutlaw413 жыл бұрын
Glad to discover Roger Penrose! He is able to explain very complex science to lay people like me. His theory makes beautiful sense to me, and answers some important questions, such as what happened before the Big Bang. I was thinking these gravitational ripples could even contain information that could be passed to the next universe. The theory reminds me of Hindu creation concepts and some of Buddhism/ Taoism as well. Absolutely awe inspiring.
@nigelbutlerr72942 жыл бұрын
Physics just scratches the surface. Physics is just beyond the experts and the professors.
@byteme97182 жыл бұрын
Physics allowed you to post your inane comment.
@eekay57102 жыл бұрын
@@byteme9718 Could be, but where does physics come from 🤔
@ruthmckay90869 ай бұрын
@@eekay5710Oh, my sides 😆
@ultimateichigo8 ай бұрын
Incredible. I understood what he said. He stubled while explaining, but it reached me. Feels like a revelation to me. Another great way of looking at how the universe began. Thank you.
@Upstreamprovider4 жыл бұрын
It's amusing he uses Escher as an illustration to his ideas when his ideas had been an inspiration to Escher... :) Perfection!
@skipbellon27553 жыл бұрын
I heard Richard Feynman once speculate about the end of the universe. He said the universe reaches a point at the very end of it's existence, that precisely mimics the conditions at the very beginning. At which point the universe seems to forget that it is ending and it starts all over.
@frodovan3 жыл бұрын
Everything is a pulse
@Gdad-203 жыл бұрын
Assuming the universe has the ability/faculty to know anything! Or indeed remember/forget! Imagination is no route to truth!
@skipbellon27553 жыл бұрын
@@Gdad-20 Feynman didn't say the universe remembers... he just said it seems to remember. There is very likely an explanation for that, but we don't know what it is.
@n9athan3 жыл бұрын
Current data suggests a heat death with no “restart” from what I remember
@andrewmeneely97742 жыл бұрын
NOT A GOOD ARGUMENT ..
@mattw83744 жыл бұрын
Read Stephen Hawkings last book and was somewhat depressed by the idea that "nothing" existed before the Big Bang. Sir Roger's infectious enthusiasm (and infinite intellect ! ) offers a glimmer of hope that talking about a situation Before the Big Band is maybe, not totally outrageous. This I find more reassuring even though I am conscious that the evolution of the Universe is a dispassionate unfolding of events.
@fivish4 жыл бұрын
The Big Bang never happened. Observations prove this.
@chrissonofpear13844 жыл бұрын
I don't know about 'nothing'. The word often tends to be insufficient for the concepts involved. See also M-theory, brane cosmology, etc.
@mattw83744 жыл бұрын
To quote Stephen Hawking " The great mystery at the heart of the Big Bang is to explain how an entire , fantastically enormous universe of space and time can materialise out of nothing.
@danielalfred96004 жыл бұрын
@@fivish Learn just a little bit more to avoid saying nonsense, please!!
@markg_ogb6 күн бұрын
Great explanation. But what came before the “early stages?” Why is there anything at all? Awesome to think about
@notlegal994 жыл бұрын
feels good to have a theory that says you will exist forever in all forms and all states
@drbonesshow14 жыл бұрын
Why Did Our Universe Begin? So that Roger Penrose could finally win a Nobel Prize.
@farrukh23253 жыл бұрын
True 3:44 does not make sense hence the nobel sir. Some big words some big theories which make no sense to us. Please put it in simple terms what was there before the big bang. Was it matter like murky water or what.
@fallenangel21233 жыл бұрын
@@farrukh2325 3:56 "...there's NO before..." 😂😂😂 sounds like you read from the bible 🤔
@letsgosurfing17863 жыл бұрын
As good of a reason as any.
@howardmiller53813 жыл бұрын
In a way, it seems that gravity is how the universe keeps in touch with itself as it spreads out. If it gets big enough, gravity ends, it develops amnesia, and a sort of renormalization occurs.
@ScienceUniverse3 жыл бұрын
How? What does "forgetting" or "amnesia" of the universe mean?
@howardmiller53813 жыл бұрын
@@ScienceUniverse I have to admit that my ideas are very nebulous and not backed up by and kind of math or science. But seeing that physical laws and quantum entanglement appear to be everywhere the same, it occurs to me to wonder if there might be a point where these phenomena become disconnected.
@nicolaij.11963 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, gravity does never "end". It gets smaller with increasing distance, and thus it approaches zero but never actually becomes zero.
@prioris555553 жыл бұрын
We live in electromagnetic based universe. Our universe is plasma / electric universe. Penrose is full of crap. Blackholes are fiction. Big Bang Theory is fiction. Subatomic physics is full of fraud. .
@kefhomepage3 жыл бұрын
@@prioris55555 haha … try living in the real world , you have any proof for this nonsense ?I think not .
@hamidrazavi822 Жыл бұрын
No matter how much you try to think out of the box, you are always in the box and going in circles.
@blulagoon214 жыл бұрын
No one has ever answered the questions "What triggered the big bang" and, "If time did not exist before the big bang, how could there be a "Time" for it to happen".
@weme114 жыл бұрын
Science could never answere such questions.
@andrewmays39884 жыл бұрын
I don't really understand what 'time' is, but if it is eternal, then it can have NEITHER a beginning NOR an end. So, if there ever was a Big Bang to create the physical universe as we know it today, not only time but space existed before the Big Bang. That space is as infinite as time is eternal, meaning that space has neither boundaries nor limits. I don't know where that reasoning leaves us, but perhaps this is where we leave the language of physics and mathematics and start conversing in the language of theology and religion....and maybe even mythology!!😇
@dalehorton77484 жыл бұрын
he does.. in this video...
@dekippiesip4 жыл бұрын
@@knoxctry1569 says the guy using a device that wouldn't exist without science.
@fivish4 жыл бұрын
Even Penrose has no answers but he got a Nobel Prize for some maths with no reality.
@baroqueguitarist56734 жыл бұрын
Love this theory. To me it sounds like if you continue to expand a balloon eventually the balloon pops. So the universe stretches/expands just like a balloon until it explodes in a big bang and starts itself over again. The very end and the very beginning have the same conditions. Once the universe stretches to the point there is no longer mass, time breaks down along with physics itself causing a re - explosion again to re- start the universe all over again in a never ending cycle. So the "big rip" ending theory is also the big bang beginning theory as well. The big bang is the end and the beginning and is just one single unifying event. Best theory of everything I've heard yet. This guy's a genius
@djpiccalo1003 жыл бұрын
But why does physics breaking down cause another big bang? This theory doesn't explain anything about why it happened as it can't explain how it happened, he just thinks it does. I'm not trying to be an arse, I just don't understand what the universe tearing apart has to do with it then having another big bang, how does popping a balloon result in another balloon being blown up? I get that the theory is essentially that the universe recycles itself but I don't understand why it "bangs" after it "rips"?
@Prof_Bum3 жыл бұрын
@@djpiccalo100 look it up. He's a philosopher. Didn't bring anything new to the table just useless talk. Just comments sound stupis. Maybe they want to sound smart.
@MidLoafCrisis3 жыл бұрын
@@Prof_Bum stop talking out of yourself. Amazing that you edited your comment and it's still incorrect
@dabbbles3 жыл бұрын
Not quite. He doesn't even attempt to explain the 'space' the balloon is expanding INTO. How about the idea that 'Big Bangs' are local events which occur commonly throughout an infinite universe, which also contains any 'space' beyond our currently-observable boundaries?
@bathin8133 жыл бұрын
There are things only God knows
@noegojimmy4 жыл бұрын
Well, many people "saw" this explanation while on psychedelics : One existence stretches to eternity and then another one pops out and does the same. There is no starting point of this process. If you go back from one of those universes you'll just keep entering "creations" backwards.
@scott-bb3tj4 жыл бұрын
I can wrap my head around the premise of previous iterations of the universe and essentially time not existing, but if there's no matter/mass remaining from the previous iteration what triggers the big bang for the next one?
@noegojimmy4 жыл бұрын
@themask9909 Isn't it strange? Our minds can't grasp infinity (kinda can when "tripping 🤔), but mathematics play with it constantly. He said when universe stretches till there is no matter (No matter =no time) it doesn't know how big it is. It's like universe in it's core has or hasn't intelligence or self awareness. Wtf? There's definitely no sense that this universe is all that is, was or will be. I had an atheist friend who praised the mushroom experience, but was annoyed with every time feeling presence of a higher being (God). 😂
@BorisNoiseChannel4 жыл бұрын
On LSD my gaze once focused in on a light beam, coming from a candle flame (you know, like when you're looking at it through your eyelashes) and as I kept zooming in I saw individual photons, and zooming in on one of those, I saw what they consist of: photons are (very fast) rope skipping cartoon characters who look somewhat like Mario
@bubbalong76464 жыл бұрын
@@scott-bb3tj GOD
@scott-bb3tj4 жыл бұрын
@@bubbalong7646sounds like God of the gaps.
@alexlucassen8489 Жыл бұрын
What a great great interview
@steffybabes4 жыл бұрын
Consciousness is the real mystery. We’re talking to ourselves.
@Upstreamprovider4 жыл бұрын
That's why I never answer.
@kn9ioutom4 жыл бұрын
Man is the Universe becoming aware of Itself ...
@stusnow96944 жыл бұрын
Change plural to singular and you're even 'closer to truth'
@augmentedkeys59714 жыл бұрын
The big question is - Can the consciousness be converted after death?
@augmentedkeys59714 жыл бұрын
@Pyro Ha! Right...? Yeah, I have some friends that think that they will go to heaven, some will be reincarnated, and one who believes he will transform into a Galaxy. Me? When you die, so does your consciousness. Done. Finished. No conversion. No A/D conversion.
@wesboundmusic4 жыл бұрын
Prof. Hameroff is right: He IS an incredibly modest and sweet man given the fact that his thinking goes beyond anyone else's so far and he's still this down to earth to even chuckle and smile at his own ideas! And as to those ideas, of which I'm hoping to get the very basic aspects and essence: Absolutely genius to end all genius. Wow.
@oscarmcgill42044 жыл бұрын
Get out of your own mind for a while you self absorbed pea.
@OMProductions813 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Eternity is the absence of time (a clock)(a measuring stick). A singularity of energy gently disturbed by gravitational waves like raindrops on a pond setting the stage for a new expansion. WOW! The wonder of it all. Should make all humans treat each other better knowing that somehow, someway, we are a significant part of all of this.
@augustmoon00043 жыл бұрын
Humans are not a significant part of the universe, that’s your ego misconstruing our importance through your myopic vision. In reality, we’re a temporary spec on an infinite plain whose collective existence will vanish well before the sun expands into a Red Giant and engulfs the earth.
@OMProductions813 жыл бұрын
August Moon It never ceases to amaze me how someone who considers humans to be so insignificant can be so arrogant. You are entitled to your opinion but no need to undermine others who draw a different conclusion from the data.
@dougg1075 Жыл бұрын
Those Escher originals he owns will always keep Roger rich. I’m envious
@juddbourne23343 жыл бұрын
What this guy is speaking speaks volumes! I like how he’s not locked into a position and how he has the ability to evolve! My personal opinion is like 80% of the population I really don’t know in the back of my mind how all this came into existence but I do know it’s a lot of fun learning. Put your seat belts on my friends because this man is from another intellectual planet! Lol
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
You understand that 'evolve' means unroll? If not, what exactly do you mean by it or seek to convey when you use the word?
@allenjenkins79474 жыл бұрын
I'll have to listen to this a few more times before i come close to understanding any of it.
@skyjack85414 жыл бұрын
Lmsollllllll .... If you really want to know why the uni was created ask prisoners who are doing time.
@michadavi61023 жыл бұрын
Learn basic physics
@noahachrem4 жыл бұрын
The end is the beginning!
@reinhardstadler-wolffersgr15414 жыл бұрын
Exactly... it's a vast and eternal circle. Out of time and space
@reinhardstadler-wolffersgr15414 жыл бұрын
Noah.... Infinity is perhaps not a never ending line in both dire tions, it's a circle... with an infinite radius.
@reinhardstadler-wolffersgr15414 жыл бұрын
God cannot be understood by human beings. We are inside a realm with finite time space dimensions....
@StaticBlaster4 жыл бұрын
@@reinhardstadler-wolffersgr1541 The universe could be cyclic without any intervention from Mr Magic Man.
@noahachrem4 жыл бұрын
ElectroShock smoke some dmt and you may change your mind. Definetly not a magic man, but an infinite source
@JJ334388 ай бұрын
PENROSE AND THE INTERVIEWER DID A GREAT JOB! THANKS FOR THIS.
@frankx87394 жыл бұрын
If both extremes are timeless and indistinguishable, then they are actually one thing.Time bounded by itself: its end also its begining.
@starfishsystems3 жыл бұрын
No, your reasoning is flawed. Two different things can have many properties in common without any implication that they are the SAME thing. Many properties is not the same as all properties.
@frankx87393 жыл бұрын
@@starfishsystems But "they" are not different: IT is time-in-the-universe.
@dabbbles3 жыл бұрын
That, too, is like my dog..chasing its tail.
@No_OneV2 жыл бұрын
Watched this three times and i think i finally understand what he means by universe forgetting how big it is. The funny thing is it actually makes sense.
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
Wht do either of you mean by" the universe"?How do you experience" the universe, and when experiencing it, how do you know that what you are experiencing is " the universe"?
@beyondscience0044 жыл бұрын
Congrats to sir Penrose for winning the 2020 physics noble prize!!
@silentbullet20236 ай бұрын
An inevitable smile radiates from the joy of understanding. Thank you.
@cliffjamesmusic4 жыл бұрын
The question “why?” automatically creates the concepts of Reason and ultimately a Creator. This has spawned all the myths about God(s) and religions. Whilst discussions around “why?” can be interesting, what is more important is learning how to live peacefully and sustainably together, thereby enabling such discussions and life in general, to continue. By the way, scientific enquiry involves the question “how?” rather than “why?”.
@GiorgiGoguaTuzo4 жыл бұрын
1.Life to continue, but why? You never get rid of the question why.
@duprie374 жыл бұрын
If you discount "why" what is even the point of anything? We're not just DNA replication machines. Everything flows from the fact that we are self-reflecting consciousness, with the unique ability to critically reflect on the self as an object from the perspective of the subject. The capacity for self-reflection & the ability to communicate symbolically is the only faculty that lets us do science (as well as culture and religion) & ask "how". No other animal does this. We wouldn't even begin bothering with "how" if we weren't really asking "why?" Sometimes I wonder who suffers more from neurotic repression, hardcore materialists or fundamentalist monotheists.
@johnbuckner28284 жыл бұрын
Questions about "what is important" seem to include the question "why" Why is anything important?
@cliffjamesmusic4 жыл бұрын
@@duprie37 My response to “why?“, around the issue of creation is “don’t know”. I then carry on with living with the notion that life is an opportunity to have enjoyable experiences and to help other people have enjoyable experiences. It just feels good to do that plus I’ve also had the experience that the happier more people are, then life on Earth becomes easier and more enjoyable. I don’t need a Creator or a Religion to do that. The discussion around the existence or not of a Creator is perhaps interesting but, for me, not important. Language is a tool; it should not be a prison.
@cango56794 жыл бұрын
@@johnbuckner2828 maybe because the experiencing of Life is important. It might be all we have, but it might not.
@AstroRamiEmad4 жыл бұрын
Wow! The most informative 17 mins in my life so far! This is why I want to study Astrophysics. (I got offers from universities in the UK but didn't get the visa because I'm a Syrian seeker of freedom and asylum)
@wayneurquhart19674 жыл бұрын
You understood all that? Give this man his damn visa!
@wardibald4 жыл бұрын
I wish European countries would be more open to fugitives like you. They may not all turn out to be astrophysicians, but apart from the humanitarian reasons for being more open (which is already reason enough imho), I know they can be an enrichment for society and make for stronger bonds with the future nations they originate from.
@baggywhacker4 жыл бұрын
Speaking as a Brit, I genuinely apologise for our ridiculously xenophobic govenment and the electorate that loves them. We can't kick them out for at least 4 years, but eventually we will, and a progressive UK will want astrophysicists :-)
@jeffteasdale82764 жыл бұрын
You should have applied to be a barista, wash cars or pick fruit & vegetables for almost nothing. These are the vital skills my government wants, not smart people - vulnerable ones.....
@skiptracerbob4 жыл бұрын
Good luck obtaining a future visa and with your studies
@telesto9124 жыл бұрын
Congratulations to Sir Roger Penrose, both for the Noble Prize and for making my head explode. I love this channel, I’ve followed you on your quest for a while now and I hope we find the answers.
@vhawk1951kl2 жыл бұрын
Whate exacly is stroking your pleasure reaction?
@rakisharky17 күн бұрын
Thanks for these insights . Amazing how one can explain things like you do . Not using any powerpoint or animation. I remember speech in Warsawa about 8 years ago. I skipped Rock-Concert because i could join in copernicus science center your speech - what a good decision.