Why the Cosmos? | Episode 413 | Closer To Truth

[@therougesage7466]

Love this chanel, love how frequently they upload

[@carlz28]

After watching enough episodes, you’ll quickly learn he keeps asking the same question. Just rearranges the words. Stop now while you have your sanity.

[@bajajones5093]

@@carlz28 AWARD FOR BEST COMMENT! Same tired questions, answered by the "usual suspects".

[@iam6424]

Because there is a limit to the big questions .

[@therougesage7466]

I'm so confused why the hate?

[@chraffis]

@@carlz28 You’re right of course. There’s still a hell of a lot of great vids on his channel, though

[@janhoogendijk8604]

A single atom will not ask why I'am here and why there so many of me but a complex being of bilions atoms do.

[@maxpower252]

You don’t know that. Have you ever asked that question to an atom?

[@davidsearle483]

This channel is amazing and looks at questions I have had my entire life.thanks so much .

[@vjnt1star]

14:07 Max Tegmark: I believe all mathematics are actualized in some way Robert: You say that very casually but that is quite a statement my friend Me:I love this exchange

[@soubhikmukherjee6871]

RLK has to have 1M subscribers.

[@willnzsurf]

1B💯

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

"So, you can't just say that because the universe is so vast, we are insignificant." I like that statement and I agree.

[@Snow-hd9cd]

I mean from how big the place is 99% there are other intelligent civilizations

[@hybridwafer]

I really don't get this despair over being insignificant to the cosmos, like the student he mentioned. Isn't it enough to be significant to your family, friends and other people?

[@carlz28]

@@hybridwafer apparently not.

[@garybala000]

The more we as humans comprehend the universe and its vastness and richness, the more insignificant and small we seem in the cosmos (Copernican principle). But paradoxically the more we as humans comprehend the universe and its vastness and richness, the more significant and central we seem in the cosmos (anthropic principle).

[@eksffa]

Maybe merely because you are the subject concerned in the sentence. An ant would disagree it’s insignificant from a cosmic perspective, if it could agree or disagree to such proposition.

[@gr33nDestiny]

Thanks for this episode!

[@kevanhubbard9673]

I like the end of the film Goodbye Lenin where they are watching one of the heads of the GDR from a TV in a hospital ward in East Berlin and he gets very Pantheistic explaining how tiny the GDR is in relation to the cosmos and how the universe probably hasn't even notice that the GDR is about to pass out of existence.

[@skronked]

Laurence is my hero! I worship him like a God!

[@bobdhitman]

9 minutes in and it’s already good stuff

[@robertflynn6686]

These interviews were great. I have always admired max tegmark from his 'Eskimo ' website. Years ago. Hes open to the nonphysical. Personally, I think consciousness has ramifications on larger scales we can't imagine. Your search for God amidst the physical of cosmic scale is quantum repulsive gravity.. my own personal choice.

[@andywang3891]

Fascinated at all these ever lasting questions. Another one I’ve had for long, is Why do we keep asking these seemingly unsolvable questions? Maybe we can find the answer in our evolution history and our brain.

[@sharonmarsh3728]

Start reading the Bible in Genesis for answers

[@mediocrates3416]

Accurately predicting global coherence requires global vision.

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@@sharonmarsh3728 there are no answers in th bible only anecdotes.

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@andy wand: only by asking these questions do we get to know what questions are important to ask. humans are inquisitive and i hope we always ask ourselves difficult questions.

[@andywang3891]

@@cosmikrelic4815 I hope we will never exhaust our questions.

[@hauntedhose]

We go places when we ask questions....We go nowhere when we claim to know stuff.

[@williamburts5495]

Do questions take us closer to the truth and is the truth a question or an answer?

[@clayz1]

@@williamburts5495 Oooooh

[@iscottke]

Excellent, as usual.

[@nickh.44]

I love this channel

[@allenmaa7064]

Talk about a work out! Getting your steps in on the way to the greatest minds around.

[@Christifaa]

Amazing episode! The second scientist who said humans will change how the universe will end smokes some funny stuff lol

[@africanandproud6792]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Darth69906]

It would be great is just one says I don’t know and walks out the room

[@LauraPerez-kr8bn]

😂😂😂

[@riveratrackrunner]

Religtard walks in... "Because God."

[@davidsocha8642]

Soon we will upgrade our simulation from the larger consciousness système! Thank you! 👩🏽‍🚀🙈🙉❤️

[@chyfields]

Turn the question around. if you were a creator, what reasons would you have for the cosmos? As a constant reminder to maintain perspective? As a celestial visible symbol of a future of infinite potential?

[@ferdinandkraft857]

Maybe He did it just to win a bet with Satan.

[@Dion_Mustard]

you are "humanising" the creator in this sense...if you consider there are eternal universes, eternal dimensions and eternal consciousness and eternal possibilities all created by a creator then your question is irrelevant...there is the physical evolution ...and then maybe the spiritual evolution....who knows....but your question is basically dumb...

[@chyfields]

@@Dion_Mustard Not dumb to me. In trying to replicate the design of this matrix there are many questions, equations, correlations and common denominators my journey has required me to consider.

[@Dion_Mustard]

@@chyfields kzbin.info/www/bejne/eomphoirlLCpmq8

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@chyfields: something to do on a rainy afternoon?

[@Omni-Kriss]

That first astronomer would be a perfect actor for a romulan in TNG!

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

maybe mathematics in future cosmos? used by the present when go from quantum time to classic space? can also then be used to measure from past back to present?

[@Seanus32]

Robert, you are part of a picture. How much you realise that depends on how much you crank up the dial. It's about level of engagement and state.

[@davidsocha8642]

Maths maybe is a protocol of consciousness to operate on this simulation. 👩🏽‍🚀

[@joeprogrock]

Interesting concept!

[@AlmostEthical]

Not mathematical but relational. Kurtzweil easily had the most grounded concept, noting that in the next trillion years numerous other intelligent beings will emerge in other galaxies. All it takes is to believe that entities can evolve that are much more advanced than humans. Steven Dick had good things to say too.

[@davidtate166]

Love it to .great wonder of it all. 🗿🏯⛪

[@hanz3967]

The dude at 22:00 is actually explaining paganism in a nutshell

[@toddsmith5715]

I kind of thought the same thing. Certainly not an original concept.

[@leonoradompor8706]

I control the Universe !

[@AReallyLongAndUnremakableUser]

WHY? The question that cannot be answered. Questions lead to answers, Answers lead to more questions.

[@Slimm2240]

I think the question you should ask is what's the point of the Universe, whether its atoms, expansion, life on other planets etc...?

[@ShlomoFriedman]

I am the only person in the cosmos who knows the answer to “why the cosmos”

[@michaelfried3123]

so far I'm the only one here willing to call you an idiot too...

[@ShlomoFriedman]

@@michaelfried3123 Fried doesn't cut it... missing the MAN :) and no, that was a real (subjective, of course) statement. If you want to see more, don't just watch the "hardware, material" guys here, see some of my videos and if you still say "idiot" I will accept it. kzbin.info. Maybe you should start here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX-4hWyan76KnM0

[@MrDooDitty]

What happens when a simulation becomes self aware? Could it hack itself or even scare its creator into pulling the plug ?

[@Snow-hd9cd]

You can’t find out it’s a simulation unless the creators purposefully create a glitch like in the matrix

[@Dion_Mustard]

a computer could never become self-aware..impossible..

[@Snow-hd9cd]

@@Dion_Mustard exactly imagine if we are living in a simulation and the creators decide to blow up the Milky Way I bet people will think it’s god

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@@Dion_Mustard and you know this how?

[@MrDooDitty]

Possibly an Avatar is important to speed up the learning process so, it's not hard to imagine spending a day synced up with your assigned experience that passes in a day but seems like a complete lifetime. Then your home from creator school in time for dinner with your favorite Plank Salad with Muon dressing while everyone at the dinner table laughs about the experience they all had when it was your turn to be the family dog Avatar or the Deer that was hunted in class simulation that day. The next day at sim school, the teacher lays out the lesson and appoints everyone a new Avatar and the cycle continues until you have enough credits to graduate with the Alpha Omega PHD. Once you are educated, you continue managing your assigned role in continuous creation in your favorite area of interest. Eventually you step down to be replaced and you get your own School of divinity and teach the newbies. What's hidden is the next level of creation that created that Simulation and the one that created that simulation and eventually the primary simulation creator runs out of creative ideas and 😂 At least we can imagine whatever we want to so, who gave us that ability? The Ether is just sand between our toes

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

might present causation be the reason for cosmos?

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

What to make of mathematics and time being infinite?

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

as space expands into past (memory of cosmos), time contracts into future (thought of cosmos)?

[@gtziavelis]

infinity has enough room for everything, certainly including the observable universe from earth's viewpoint, and not just once, but up to an uncountable number of times over. the same thing is true even if the universe is only finite, but sufficiently large.

[@Psalm1101]

It's the privileged planet made for us to see the glory of God. Earth is man's planet created by God .

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Does cosmos mean this universe, or what is beyond universe as well?

[@ferdinandkraft857]

Cosmos = everything that exist, or ever was, or ever will be.

[@clayz1]

Besides a cosmos, what on earth would it be?

[@charleswilliams8368]

Why the Cosmos? Because if it can exist, it does exist.

[@isovv]

21:04 - but if there are living beings for millions of years out there, they would be that expanded, they were here already (and in most/all galaxies). I think this was not taken into account in this thinking.

[@andywang3891]

The issue is this. We, far behind that intelligence, maybe haven't developed the ability to understand them, or even notice their existence. Of course, they can choose to downgrade to our level to communicate with us, but why? Has anyone tried to talk to an ant?

[@theliamofella]

Personally I believe that all of reality has been created, but I have no idea if us human beings are important in this creation, but I do feel that our knowledge in science etc is basically nothing to what it is all about but we think it’s close to the truth

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

human consciousness relates to present causation central to time, though not space?

[@dondattaford5593]

Question when it all ends in this form and you are there after you have passed on with all the information you reaped how would you try to effect a situation like now or would you basically come into being again

[@cosmikrelic4815]

do you believe you are there after you have passed on?

[@dondattaford5593]

@@cosmikrelic4815 when you pass on where you end up is what you really are thoughts and they are contained in an empty void in the beginning there was nothing

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@@dondattaford5593 but you might not have thoughts after you pass on. and how do you know that there was nothing in the beginning?

[@dondattaford5593]

@@cosmikrelic4815 not being sarc time is man made concept it may seem that structure is also fabricated I ask you to just think about how your thoughts are made

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@@dondattaford5593 what is sarc time? i do think about how thoughts are made. it is a meta-thought.

[@TheInfiniteFrequency]

The more I studied physics and maths, the more religious I became. It just feels right and better. I absolutely love both but god is number 1 😄

[@markupton1417]

I had a similar experience with biology.

[@joqqy8497]

Same here.

[@lo-fihip-hopchill8240]

relaxing sounds from nature for you

[@davidjayhalabecki438]

Why The Cosmos.? Because the Cosmos damn well said so. 😁 Have you ever asked a hockey player, why ice 🇨🇦🤣🤣🤣 I❤This program. Keep 'em coming.

[@garybala000]

Why the Cosmos? Teilhard de Chardin had the answer: the emergence of the Omega Point of All-Goodness from the Super Multiverse landscape. The All-Good justifies everything and constitutes an eternal heaven.

[@jjt1881]

Yeah, but de Teilhard de Chardin was not doing science, but "speculative theology" based mainly on bad science and poor theology.

[@ferdinandkraft857]

Too many capitalized words to be taken seriously.

[@garybala000]

Consider that science (and small case words) cannot truly answer ultimate “why” questions. Final, albeit only faint and sketchy, answers must necessarily rely on speculative metaphysics. Moreover, Teilhard’s view of Omega Point (oops omega point, lol) is roughly congruent with Philosopher John Leslie’s “Good” as the conceptual justification for the universe.

[@toddsmith5715]

Nah, that's no answer. Just a sort of romantic spiritual slushiness partially based on errant beliefs about science. Goodness, evil, none of those are inherent parts of reality's framework. It would take more than Teilhard's swill to convince me otherwise--and I COULD be convinced.

[@garybala000]

@@toddsmith5715 I never advocated or agreed to ALL of Teilhard’s views, religious philosophy, Jesuit advocacy etc. Only one idea: the concept of an emergence of Good from existence, which after all is all that really makes life worth living anyway. Remember, as Paul Davies said once, no ultimate explanation of all things is gonna sound plausible or clarifying for Earth-bound mortals such as us, locked within our space-time matrix in one universe. All explanations will sound bizzare. For open minded folks who can think outside the box, I suggest John Leslie’s book Infinite Minds for exploration of the idea of ethical goodness undergirding existence.

[@drenafroethfnaoratnetoa1002]

COSMOS IS THERE FOR VIBRATION TO EXIST IN THIS WORLD REALITIES BUT NOT IN OTHER WORLD REALITIES.

[@NightBazaar]

❓

[@ferdinandkraft857]

@@NightBazaar Any comment written in full caps can be safely ignored.

[@joecathome]

"Only "TIME" will tell"

[@stoictraveler1]

Maybe a dolphin is the flower, and we are a choking weed.

[@tedgrant2]

Why did God create the cosmos ? Because he wanted to give us something to think about. And he is a big fan of Doctor Who, Star Wars, Dan Dare and the Mekon.

[@hameedattaul9103]

Why... Word belongs to Theorie.... How.....word belongs to Practical I think🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔...... When someone Get both answer its belongs to "INOVATIONS" and win the Titel of SCIENTEST....

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

expansion of space in vast cosmos balanced by gravity contraction of infinitesimal time?

[@MrRamon2004]

The universe is already big mind, is giving as information, remember (energy information) In this life and the next one stay in the light.

[@oscar3490]

Well said mate 🤔

[@matishakabdullah5874]

KNOW ONESELF TO KNOW ONE'S CREATOR! It won't matter how big is cosmos to a living human being it is a thing/information in his/her consciousness. So what is the reality on the outside of the horizon of one consciousness? To answer that one must 1st know oneself....in reality who is totally depending on one living consciousness! One material body has no realizing value about itself(eg. While in sleeping) and observable physical cosmos which are reducible to an infinite singularity in consciousness as it began...no mathematics can describe! So who is the true oneself.... physical body or consciousness?

[@butterchuggins5409]

Why not the cosmos? How the space? What the Time? Where the now? Who the black hole?

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

science measures past events in expanding space? human consciousness experiences future development through contracting time?

[@leonoradompor8706]

My nickname is Uni !

[@jamestagge3429]

Listening to some of these men is like listening to small children. They fancy themselves such great minds, pondering the limits of the various possibilities of existence when in fact they are just using these fanciful notions to escape addressing some of the realities of existence which beg certain ontological questions they dont like. To claim that mathematical concepts existed/exist independent of material reality as mathematical truths is as absurd as the theories of cyclical universes and Gotts universe giving rise to itself by a piece of it breaking off and looping back in time to give rise to itself. Sophistry, the lot of it and easily demonstrated to be so. So if the concept of a cube exists as presented in the video as Mr. Tegmark claims, it does so only within the context of the material reality within whose structure its character and nature are defined. So it does not and cannot exist independent of some context which instructs that there are dimensions permitting length width and height, etc. It thus cannot precede materiality. He then goes on to say that we are “living inside of a mathematical object…what kind of description could this reality have?...it can’t be in English because that is an invention of us. The only means of its description is mathematics…which doesn’t need to be created by anything.” Wow, talk about non-sequitur. The nature of math as we apply it is no different than that of English or any other language. We in fact use language to describe what we mean in mathematics applied to generate a result in an experiment, for example. Much of the formulae used in the study and manipulation of principles of quantum mechanics require explanation and/or clarification in language and are NOT self-evident when seen without accompanying descriptions. There is little difference as long as language conventions are strictly defined and held when in use as is the case in mathematics. Because he thinks that the concept of a cube exists independent of materiality and is a mathematical object and that mathematics describes the material reality in which we exist, that materiality is a composite of mathematical objects and there is no need for a beginning or source of existence. This is even dumber than Got’s theory of the beginning of the universe. The concept of a cube exists only because in our prerequisite existing material reality, which as mentioned above is structured to define objects in length, width and height, etc., that it could be posited by an intellect. In a universe differently structured, this would not be the case and some other conceptual “form” would be the topic of this discussion now. So this concept of cube is nothing more than the discovery of a perceptual being, capable of abstraction after the fact within a specific material context. It does not drive the existence of any single aspect of material reality. It is rather the product of that materiality. Material reality is NOT a set of mathematical objects. Mathematics is merely the set of terms/system used to define it. Mathematical principles must first be formulated and defined before they can be recognized as articulating various aspects of material reality. Mr. Tegmark is full of it. As for Steven Dick, he’s a typical product of these meat-headed theories of vindictive atheist scientists. Not need to comment beyond that. The fact is that science does nothing in its attempt to explain the infinite existence of the universe or its beginning but drive us farther into the arms of God, their pathetic, prejudices against faith, all manifesting in theories contradictory to the very bodies of work of the disciplines to which they are so devoted. For example, the cyclical universe theory which takes various forms, which all define an infinite string back in time (thus eliminating a need for a source) of a universe expanding then stopping and contracting to expand again, on and on that it will continue to do so forever, is self-contradictory and ridiculous, beneath the talents of these men. Consider, since this progression is stopped in our universe, i.e., in the here and now we can only look back in the sequence of these cycles. Since it is claimed that these universes go back forever/infinitely, but they are quantifiable phenomena which by definition can never reach infinity in the progression of which they are a part, were we to look back, we would see that supposedly infinite line of them populating still, but backwards (you cannot place one by one, rocks into an infinite bag and ever fill it) and that population of this line would continue, backwards forever. This would mean that there could be no past in the history of our universe going back before the previous expansion. Also, the very same scientists who claim this theory valid have stated that in each of these universe expansions along this infinite line, there were universes of every kind in which none of the laws of physics would have been exactly the same. This was their means of escape of the precision discovered in our own without which there would be no matter or life, etc. They claimed the precision of our universe was merely incidental and not remarkable because it was just one out of an infinite number and thus inevitable. But this would mean that among that infinite string preceding that there would have inevitably been one which did not have the balance of forces necessary to cause the expansion and then contraction necessary for the string to continue and the progression would have ceased at that point. We would thus not be here to have this discussion to begin with. Odd how childish these physicists and cosmologists are. Or is it just that they are not as smart as we credit them for being? If anything, an honest study of these disciplines leads you to the understanding of the necessity of God, rather than the opposite.

[@rayzorrayzor9000]

OMG you try and debunk everything and then claim it’s all down to God , you do realise that there is room for both science and God. I am a practicing Catholic, I believe in a God and also science, it’s Not a crontadiction , one is based on reality the other is based purely on my faith , we would all be going backwards if we got rid of science and just believed in a God, Both have thier place in our lives . Take Care . R .

[@jamestagge3429]

@@rayzorrayzor9000 never suggested such a thing. Just tired of these guys and their arrogance in dismissing God's existence with junk philosophy they are calling science. IF you study cosmology and physics in as much as a layman can you will see that their own theories, properly understood suggest God's existence more than not though their prejudice against Him is clear and actually, kind of pathetic. Their attempts to dispense with Him always involve the fraudulent proposals which are contradiction with their own bodies of work, such as the nonsense of the cyclical universe. Just calling things as they are.

[@rayzorrayzor9000]

@@jamestagge3429 ,hi , I owe you an apology , I was so wrapped up in your comment that I missed what you were actually trying to say , I now hear you loud and clear . Take Care . R .

[@jamestagge3429]

@@rayzorrayzor9000 thanks

[@ukidding]

I would like to say that because the universe is so vast, we are indeed insignificant. One day, life on earth will end and so mankind will come to an end. Life is seeded throughout the universe and there is nothing special about humans. Just an experiment by nature, that's all folks.

[@Carloxart]

You just said something as believable as Covid-19 was something natural that pass from a Bat, to a snake, to pig, to a human, and that it was not purposely created to cause what it's causing in the world right now.

[@mediocrates3416]

Only a god constrained by Nature can be a benevolent, all knowing god.

[@suatustel746]

I don't rank your God is a Major God"if he's keep all his eggs in one basket'

[@mediocrates3416]

@@suatustel746 Many basket there are😁👍

[@owencampbell4947]

If we know more about our being, we'll know more about the cosmos. We can't look in the past, and we can't look in the future, but we see the present, why? because that's reality, that's our world, any other argument would be trying to twist our vision, it's the use of our brains possibilities to imaginations, a natural ability, that's also individual and unique in its performing. A God may exist, but not the way we imagine him to be, here is the same failure being suggested from some people about reality. We ignore reality and build all kind of thoughts against reality, same goes for a God that has to fit our wishes otherwise there's no God. I think here's a very big mistake in thinking.

[@Controversial_Celebrity_Quotes]

"They're ignoring the fact that intelligence is expanding exponentially". The U.S. went from Trump to Biden. Sorry Ray, I'm not seeing it.

[@patrickwithee7625]

If you think anyone in Academia thinks society is smarter voting for Trump than for Biden then you must be on another planet or something.

[@Snow-hd9cd]

@@patrickwithee7625 Biden has dementia and is employed by China. If covid never happened Trump would’ve surely won

[@publiusovidius7386]

@@Snow-hd9cd lol. You're delusional. Biden's performances in debates and townhalls, as well as answering questions from reporters show he does not have dementia. Trump has full blown Narcissistic Personality Disorder and kills everything he touches.

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@the verball abusive clown: using america or its politics as examples of intelligence are woefully inadequate.

[@Snow-hd9cd]

@@cosmikrelic4815 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmG6oqyjmKpmeLc&ab_channel=FOGCITYMIDGE

[@HR-op2cq]

When I consider your heavens,(F) the work of your fingers,(G) the moon and the stars,(H) which you have set in place, 4 what is mankind that you are mindful of them, human beings that you care for them?[c](I) Psalms 8 So basically the ancients knew it and yet it didn't undermine their faith

[@ferdinandkraft857]

Proves nothing.

[@HR-op2cq]

@@ferdinandkraft857 of course not. Just saying..

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

@@ferdinandkraft857 Maybe it proves nothing but it still gives me hope.

[@MikiMaki76]

math is based on axioms, axioms are arbitrary and the explanation is: this is the truth because we say it is, or it is obvious and so must be true. how can the universe be mathematical? math is obviously a human construct, we decide what the rules are to achieve our goals. come on, be serous, what kind of scientist can claim that everything is mathematical?

[@Soli_Deo_Gloria_.]

Why is there the cosmos rather than non cosmos ? Because of an uncaused non contingent first cause of all contingency... God

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

I agree with you 100%

[@publiusovidius7386]

lol. Nice mythological fantasy you have going on there.

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@oli deogloria: that is not an answer, that is dogma. do you know the difference?

[@markupton1417]

I know "why the cosmos"...but I promised not to tell.

[@jjt1881]

Only a thing whose essence is existence. Beautiful, but not very convincing. Even Max Tegmark Mathematical universe does not talk about a creator, but an eternal existent meta-structure with infinite embodiments, our reality just being one of a multitude. Is that a being whose essence is existence or whose existence and essence are one and the same?

[@MrRamon2004]

You don’t believe in the super natural, all I can tell you technology never going to see a white hole. In this life and the next one stay in the light.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

John Polkinghorne a quantum physicist who believe God who created this infinite universe required and demanded drop of human blood and manslaughter killing blameless prophet of God i.e. Jesus (pbuh) for mercy and salvation, as you know not killing Jesus (pbuh) means there is no salvation waiting for Christians. What a lame idea for quantum physicist to hold onto and quantum physicist title itself coming into questioning.

[@micheal74rich]

It means human stupidities has no boundaries.

[@JSDuse]

A killed man like God? A really crazzy idea.

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@riven rafeek: i'm no theist but you are putting words into his mouth. i'm not sure that he would countenance that sort of behaviour from the god he believes in. you are conflaing his view of god with your own.

[@micheal74rich]

@@cosmikrelic4815 It is not my view of God, but rather it is the Christian's view of the 'god'.

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@@micheal74rich and you speak for all christians? i don't think they have a consistant view of god. i do not think that these scientists that you deride think he is a little white man with a beard.

[@leeberry3708]

What I would say is this. If and when we meet another species from another planet that is intelligent and we learn to communicate with said species. And in doing that they inform us that they in fact believe in a god then and only then could I give the God question a real think. And the reason for this is two separate species from to different celestial bodies have a common thought about the God question then we would surely have to consider the ramifications of that fact. Why because that would mean that in the universe it would be almost a certainty that there was in fact a Supreme being or God as 2 different species from 2 different celestial bodies have the same thoughts. That's scary and would also mean the universe itself maybe be that being.

[@Ascendlocal]

I'm in more favor with Max Tagmark. As Stephen Hawking asked, "what breaths the fire into the equation?" As Max will suggest, even if there were nothing, No space, no time, no virtual particles. No mistaking "nothing" for "something". Nothing! 2+2 would still equal 4. This series or any other can never answer the question. Do we survive death? However, does that question indeed fall into the category of the math of probabilities? Because answers can be probablistic, yes? So assign your own probability. What's the harm? If you cease to exist, you'll never no..."Nothing"

[@mediocrates3416]

I suggest that numbers are merely icons representing quantity. Mathmatics is the natural science of quantity. What we see in the apparent persistence of mathematical objects is actually the coherence of the fundamental concept; like the coherence of the constituents of a particle is fundamental to the stability of that particle. We have coherence and we have truth; spiritually, i understand these as "the light of the Father in the face of the Son", like Sun and Moon. And the Son regards the Earth.

[@Ascendlocal]

@@mediocrates3416 math is simply quantity? Then what is geometry if not mathatical? String theory? Hilbert space, scalar fields? Math is not simply quantity. Schrodinger equation is QFT probability through time - not quantity

[@mediocrates3416]

@@Ascendlocal I didn't say that, Frank. Please respect me enough to hear me, thx.

[@IIVVBlues]

The universe is enormous compared to what? Since we have no idea how big it is or compared to the many possibilities of existence, we have no frame of reference to even pose the question. To our limited perceptions and understanding, it is really big, but compared to all of existence it may very well be quite small. For humans, the growth of intelligence is subject to diminishing returns. Mathematics is just another language we have invented to describe our corner of existence.

[@flowwiththeuniverse31]

What came first, God or the Cosmos?

[@BojanBojovic]

No need for god.

[@Carloxart]

We are the cosmos. In the beginning, the whole universe and everything it contains; matter, energy, and whatever makes our conciousness, was in a single spot, a singularity. Everything every human is made of was once a single thing, we are all connected, we all come from the same origin, every human, every dog, every rock, every insect, plant, planet, star, galaxy... Is not it beautiful and perfect? Such perfection can't be a coincidence, a virtual reality game can't be compiled for accident in a computer if you put a monkey smashing the keys randomly in a PC. Life, DNA, the laws of nature, the laws of logic, mathematics, our sense of good and evil... It's hard to imagine someone can be so naive and think himself intelligent if they assume it is just because it is and that's all there is to be. This universe has a purpose, this universe is special, we have a purpose and we are special... Learn to love and you will find the answers. May God Bless You.

[@Soli_Deo_Gloria_.]

No necessity for the cosmos, but yet here we are... *;-)*

[@BojanBojovic]

@@Soli_Deo_Gloria_. We are the cosmos, we are nothing special and nothing other than basic elements found in cosmos everywhere. No need for god. God does not exist. It is a human invention from the time when humans got intelligent enough to ask some questions, but not intelligent enough to give the right answers.

[@stevecoley8365]

Darkness (business) exists so that stars like US have a place to shine in heaven (joy, beauty and harmony). Stars like US don't exist to be sucked out of heaven by a giant black hole in space called greed and it's ignorance (hate). Both here on this physical plane called Earth like it is on the metaphysical plane we call heaven. Also, Love (god) spent billions of years creating this paradise planet lifeboat so that her miraculous works of fine art called life have a beautiful place to "be". Love didn't spend so much time creating this paradise planet lifeboat to be depreciated, hated, polluted and destroyed in a brief moment by alien vampires (greed) and their ignorance (hate).

[@cosmikrelic4815]

we are not stars, angelina jolie is a star.

[@stevecoley8365]

@@cosmikrelic4815 Some stars are brighter than others. The important thing is not to be a black hole in space (greed) that sucks the stars (light and warmth) out of heaven (joy, beauty and harmony).

[@sergelu]

"believes in god"..... what does that actually mean ?????? believe what?????

[@Tom_Quixote]

First he asks "John Pokinghorn", and then "Steve Dick"...

[@atomsphericdust]

again, such a stupid title for a video... 'why the toaster oven' is not a question... 'why a toaster oven -- what?'

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Is the quantum field a derivative of mathematics?

[@willnzsurf]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHS5m6KFqaZom8k

[@leeberry3708]

As we are on a rock in the middle of nowhere so to think there might be a god but that God is not an alien species as they think about the same thing means that all intelligence in the universe has a common thought process and that means we are all connected in the universe if only in creation then in beliefs.

[@JSDuse]

Kdo inteligentní by se trápil se stvořením něčeho, jako je člověk? Spíše by na planetě Zemi někdo stvořil život, protože by bylo jeho zábavou to pozorovat - jako lidský vědec pozoruje mravence nebo bakterie.

[@cosmikrelic4815]

it could be but i don't think so.

[@ac-uk6hs]

You go to Harvard? I'm sure everything he said is plagiarized

[@jazzfish1437]

Scratching the surface with tiny imaginations

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@jazz fish: yours is so vast i suppose?

[@firstcommenter202]

The man is upset that few scientists are superstitious.

[@Psalm1101]

Nothing ordinary about are universe are star are solar system are planet. This guy is using old Carl Sagan science were life is everywhere but most astrophysicist say no Brian Cox Kepler scientist cool world Utuber and chemist protoscientist Dr. James tour

[@Aguijon1982]

This creator is just begging the question. If you have a creator, then the COSMOS would be this"guy" in some empty void farthing universes into existence. You can't avoid having a uncreated cosmos.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

Have you watched a movie called Thor: Ragnarok, on this movie, one 'god' tries to over power herself against another 'god' and tries to subdue another 'god'. If the reality like that, then there would be confusion in heavens and Earth, each 'god' would try to fight against another 'god', just like it in the Hindu mythology, so in short Christians theology is like the Hindu mythology. Quran 21:22 Had there been within the heavens and earth gods besides Allah , they both would have been ruined. So exalted is Allah , Lord of the Throne, above what they describe.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@Brian Baker _"Allah is the God of the Arab Quereish Jahilliah. "_ Allah means God, our none-muslims would testifies what "Allah" means, who are academics in the Christians World and Jewish World. _"This last two ayah means Allah admits that there are other religions, "_ Do you want us to believe that Allah did not know there are false religions like Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism existed while the Quran was being revealed?

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@Brian Baker _"Muhamad cannot read and he send that stupid jibril to ask Muhamad to read. "_ Please don't beat yourself against Islam, it is simply what prophecy requires. Isaiah 29:12 and the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee; and he saith, I am not learned.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@Brian Baker Sorry, you cannot refute my lines.

[@Renato404]

@@LogicStandsBeforeGod according to the vast majority of theists, you believe in a false god. You can't refute the either. 💋

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

​@@Renato404 So help me understand. According to your "true god", has got a need for a son, like creations do on Earth? According to your "true god" needed human blood and manslaughter for mercy and salvation, as you know not killing Jesus means no salvation waiting for Christians? According to your "true god", this "god" came on Earth ate food and used toilet on Earth, like Hindus deities did? These are what you consider from the "true god"?

[@hddhesgghg3205]

How is "self generating nature" differs from or contradicts "always there mathematics"? I think it is the same thing. Nature = math and math = nature.

[@Raptorel]

Max Tegmark is correct, mathematics needs no creator, and it could be the ontology itself. If you really want to use the word God, then Math = God. They're not distinct. And yes, it's the source of space and time, it doesn't need them, they need it, and can exist without a creator - it doesn't need a creator either, since there's no "moment in time" when it started existing.

[@cosmikrelic4815]

i like max, but i do wonder how possibilities exist on their own without someone or thing to consider them.

[@Raptorel]

@@cosmikrelic4815 Well, they're just possibilities. In other words, if someone were to exist, then he or she or it could "go" in the direction allowed by the possibility space. On the other hand, if you want to go solipsistically, you can say that consciousness creates the possibilities, and he have no other experience than existence. We don't ever experience non-existence, as that is a contradiction in terms. So make of that what you will. Me? I think there is an objective world out there, irrespective of subjects, but I reserve the right to change my mind.

[@willnzsurf]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHS5m6KFqaZom8k

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@@willnzsurf i don't look at unsolicited youtube videos. what does it say?

[@mediocrates3416]

Perhaps we flatten mountains? There is a mountain to move: it's a mountain of colonialism and misogyny grounded on Roman Fascism and it needs to move to the ground of Truth and be the Mountain of Love it's supposed to be.

[@cosmikrelic4815]

my god jeff, you do come up with a lot of rubbish. try constructing a proper argument instead of word salad.

[@mediocrates3416]

@@cosmikrelic4815 You should work on including specifics in your critique; otherwise, people might think you hollow.

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@@mediocrates3416 no they won't, i do not know the answers so i try not to make claims, you on the other hand are always trying to say something but it usually turns out to be nonsense.

[@mediocrates3416]

@@cosmikrelic4815 Cuz you're thoughtless. You don't think i'm going out on a limb, making such claims in the hope of reasonable dialog and knowing your ilk is always there? Think what you like but, please be polite.

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@@mediocrates3416 please be polite, and you call me thoughtless? and what exactly is my ilk?

[@jdc7923]

My own reaction, when people point to the size of the universe is, so what? The human poetic sense assigns a feeling toward things of great physical magnitude. That's an arbitrary feeling, not some great truth. Is a universe a billion light years across mundane, while a universe a billion billion light years across sublime? Says who? Only consciousness truly matters. Only consciousness can experience joy or sorrow. If other parts of the universe contain sentient beings, then those other parts are important. If they contain only mindless matter and energy, then they aren't important, except as an aid to our understanding of how the physical laws work, and how we came to be.

[@BugRib]

This is 100% right.

[@Dion_Mustard]

consciousness is the key to everything...and consciousness is eternal.

[@BugRib]

@@Dion_Mustard - And consciousness puts every being at the center of their own personal universe. Also, every part of the cosmos appears to be at the center of the universe from its own perspective. So, for all intents and purposes, we basically are at the center.

[@Dion_Mustard]

@@BugRib your point?

[@markupton1417]

ALL consciousness experiences is joy or suffering. That's the whole shebang.

[@Dion_Mustard]

I LOVE Owen at the start..a man with an ASTOUNDING intelligence..a strong belief in cosmology and scientific laws and yet believes in the possibility of a god...if only the arrogant egotistical materialists out there could take a leaf from his book and stop being so closed minded and aggressive AND accept materialist doctrine is a dying philosophy.

[@toddsmith5715]

Why do you consider materialist "doctrine" as you put it, to be a dying philosophy? I'm not entirely comfortable with a strict materialist view of consciousness, but I don't see it receding. Mere "spiritualism" alone certainly pales in comparison in regard to what it can reveal about reality..

[@Dion_Mustard]

@@toddsmith5715 i would disagree spiritualism pales in comparison..not when you consider the materialist theory fails time and time again and continues to fail to explain consciousness and the universe..reducing life to mere chemistry is flawed..its not that simple..because the more we have delved into these things the more we have discovered ie the quantum concepts of existence and the universe..the materialist argument is weak. i think science is leading to a more spiritual understanding...by that i do not mean god and "unicorns" as the materialists put it..i mean a far DEEPER meaning to life and laws.

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@live life: here you go again, stating as fact some notion that you've invented on the spot. you have no evidence to support your assertion about materialist doctrine. if you have what is it?

[@Dion_Mustard]

@@cosmikrelic4815 i do not have the energy to respond to you. not when your mind is so closed. it's pointless. take care my friend.

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@@Dion_Mustard well pray to god for energy. see there tioy do accusing me of a closed mind. it could be you! but no of course it isn't, you couldn't possibly be wrong or worse fooled.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

Quran 67:3 who created seven heavens one upon another. Thou seest not in the creation of the All-merciful any imperfection. Return thy gaze; seest thou any fissure? Quran 67:4 Then return thy gaze again, and again, and *thy gaze comes back to thee dazzled, aweary* .

[@tonybravo8458]

@Brian Baker Your mom must be proud of you attacking this men's religion!

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@Brian Baker I thought of sharing these videos posted by few Americans this video from former Jewish American, who asked God to guide him to the correct religion that is accepted by God, please watch this it was a miracle in the broad daylight how God guided him to Islam, kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYqbhaVuYseGrpY

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@Brian Baker It was similar miracle reported by a U.S corporal in marine went to Afghanistan, but God had different plan for this corporal and God converted him to Islam, it was a miracle in the broad daylight, how God guides to whom HE wills, kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6DKnmV_gdWsb9U It was indeed miracle in the broad daylight, which turned him to Islam, feel free to watch and learn.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@Brian Baker Below is video posted by a French sister, who suffered 5 years of depression and mental health problems, she was hospitalized and was kept on medications, but all gone in five minutes of Islamic prayer, it was a miracle in the broad day light, kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKe3q2NvZsuKa6s

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@Brian Baker Here is another video posted by an American sister, who suffered life long depression and darkness at heart she felt, to get rid of it, she studied all religions you can think of, but nothing fit right, nothing feel right, until she came to Islam, the life long depression is gone, it was a miracle in the broad day light, kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKSrdIuelr-Eb80