Cloud Beginner? Don't Learn DevOps: Here's Why.

DevOps? What on earth is DevOps, and should you, as a cloud beginner target the DevOps role? My short answer: no. The DevOps role is very confused across the industry, with many companies having a vastly different idea of what a DevOps person does, making it much harder to build a learning plan around, and making it harder to prepare for interviews. This doesn't mean you shouldn't apply for jobs with the title DevOps, just that I don't recommend using it as a role to target.
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[@mikae6102]

Great advice just what I needed to hear 🙌🏽

[@rishabincloud]

Good explanation, it is hard to enter but seeing more roles now that are posted Junior or Associate.

[@openupthecloud]

Yeah. I do struggle to help folks applying for the DevOps role sometimes since it's just so varied and widely interpreted. It can be hard to build a learning plan around, for sure.

[@DevlogBill]

I had a in mind, and that is if you have almost 1 years' experience as a self-taught aspiring front end developer using the usual suspect HTML, CSS, JavaScript and React. How difficult is it since I have no backend knowledge with API, server-side experience like databases. How hard would it be for someone like me to get into DevOps? Is DevOps technically much more difficult in comparison to back end? Or is it at the same difficulty level?

[@SounokDeb]

Great advice Lou, thanks.

[@openupthecloud]

Any time, Sounok, thanks for dropping by! 🚀

[@Cyrixau]

Hi Lou, Even when I look at Cloud engineer roles I still see some descriptions say 'devops experience'. As you said the industry is confused on the what devops actually is. What do you think is the best job role for beginner cloud wannabes that want to get their foot through the cloud door? Would you say Junior Cloud Engineer?

[@openupthecloud]

Hey Cyrix, welcome ! I've seen people approach this from a few different angles... 1. I see a lot of people going the admin/helpdesk route, that's what Rishab did, and talks about here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/govYiI1miKeMo5o 2. I personally went the web development route, and started that way in development then moved into the cloud (I should do a video on this) 3. Some companies will put up "junior" roles, but getting some really good personal projects in, and you could apply for non-junior cloud engineer roles. 4. AWS (and companies like them) are open to people with less experience, e.g. through the "Tech U" program (if you can get past the competition)

[@nebolos]

Great advice. Thanks

[@openupthecloud]

You're very welcome, my dude !

[@openupthecloud]

Heyyyyyoo! What do you think? Do you agree or nah? Are you going for a DevOps role? Or something different?

[@chandramoulidasari3946]

I have a question as beginner is which cert best for first job solutions architect or cloud pactioner? Can you please make a separate video what roles are best for beginners and if possible with roadmaps Thanks in Advance

[@openupthecloud]

Hey @@chandramoulidasari3946 ! My thoughts on which cert to take first: openupthecloud.com/which-aws-certification-first For roles, Andrew Brown has a nice write-up here I was reading the other day, which might help: iamcloud.dev/is-it-recommended-to-first-be-a-system-admin-in-a-user-support-role-before-becoming-cloud-engineer-in-azureaws-gcp For a roadmap, I recommend these 4 tools as a starting point (mostly regardless of role) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKXIqXR5f7p5ebc This roadmap also might be useful as a general reference for tools: roadmap.sh/devops A lot of the leraning platforms have learning paths (if you're an ACG member, for instance): acloudguru.com/learning-paths BUT you're right, a video would be great, I've been meaning to do something similar for quite some time-hopefully I get around to it soon!

[@chandramoulidasari3946]

@@openupthecloud Thanks a lot for your clear and detailed explanation

[@haguylerman]

Can you please share the github repo of the page you showed in the video

[@openupthecloud]

This one: github.com/bregman-arie/devops-exercises? 🙏

[@saiakhil5440]

Please suggest me what kind of role do we actually take

[@openupthecloud]

This article should help! Let me know if you have more thoughts 🙏 ... I should really do more video's on this topic! openupthecloud.com/cloud-roles-explained/

[@rezaeimilad]

How about the solution architect role? :)

[@openupthecloud]

That's a good Q! You might like / find this thread useful: twitter.com/loujaybee/status/1419700390442975232?s=20 I'm not a fan of that role for beginners, and I don't really suggest it... BUT it does seem that AWS (and maybe some other big enterprises) have a good set up to train SA's so that they're successful.

[@mccollins]

Very True

[@openupthecloud]

🚀🚀🚀

[@alainkills]

what if you got a infosec degree and planning to start as a Cloud Security Engineer?

[@openupthecloud]

What do you need to know, Alain? 😁 Sounds like a great career, and you've got the perfect background already 🙏

[@alainkills]

Hello Lou, 😁 I'm overwhelmed with this DevSecOps thing, confuse on how to put up myself together, I don't have the cloud skills/certs yet and really mystify on where to start and what to focus on. TIA 🙏

[@openupthecloud]

@@alainkillsdo some research into the different roles, and start to build your plan around that. More information here: twitter.com/openupthecloud/status/1459605887136448513

[@alainkills]

@@openupthecloud yo Lou, this really informative and some kind of straight to the point. Thanks so much.

[@rahuljoshi7768]

Exactly what i feel now after working in devops for some time. 😒

[@openupthecloud]

Time to do a bit of specialisation? 😎

[@brownsense1]

I was told DevOps and Cloud Engineer is similar 🥴🤔