Clough on McLean

Brian Clough gives his thoughts on Jim McLean and Dundee United.

[@Muirton66]

I could listen to Cloughy for hours, both Clough and McLean were giants in the game and remind me of the good day's when football was football and not 22 players trying to outdo each other with haircuts and gel then falling over when any of the opposition come within three feet of them.

[@victorformosa2825]

It was a great era for football and we were fortunate to watch it.

[@eddie12454]

Hear hear guys.

[@GrahamByrne63]

As a fan being at most of these games watching a team who played with no fear who got us nicknamed the terrors,sadly nowadays too much.. hey look at me I play for dufc.. I love posing

[@Fumblingthroughlifeonline]

When a player looked at another player in the box & the referee didn’t give a penalty for it.

[@jemimallah2591]

cliche cliche cliche pish

[@roddyadam5283]

Two of the greatest managers ever. Both retired at the same time in 1993.

[@RonniesPokerRants]

I think Jim would have taken the accolades of that man more seriously than any other in football. What a set of compliments he gives and it brings tears to me eyes every time I see this. Saw it live at the time in 1987. btw that guy is the only English guy to this day I would have gladly had as Scotland manager.

[@starofdavid9919]

Good call, never ever gave that a thought and he might have took the job too.

[@rajnirvan3336]

Jim Mclean Brian Clough RIP take care of each other

[@kr1886]

The money men have guaranteed there will never be a Forest type club picking up the European cup with their league system, keeps the big boys happy.

[@mrk45]

I generally don't like the way sports are run in the US, but one thing that would really benefit the European game is a salary cap.

[@WELLBRAN]

Yep now its rigged so that the big fish can keep the trophies and the money

[@peterwest5525]

@@gatsbygoodwood2575 For the third time - all against Atletico de Madrid.

[@myaphextwin807]

Wankers have partly killed the game. Greed.

[@NealyLL]

And we are all the poorer for it.... unfortunately

[@garypeacock5919]

Cloughie spot on as usual regarding the need for "smaller " clubs to win something now & then to diversify things a bit. When you look at the past 20 years or so, apart from Leicester it's been pretty monotonous. In the 70's, Ipswich, QPR and west ham all came within a ball hair of the title, it's doubtful that will ever happen again , unfortunately 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@davidmarchant9386]

Well when man utd won first prem it was their first title within 26 years, think City waited 40 yrs... Chelsea had a long wait also it's been a few clubs winning titles consistently Leicester was a one off event like Forest but Newcastle will be there now competing. But the old days off football is gone if you want to see that kinda thing it's the championship to watch still my fav league

[@D_B_Cooper]

Watford and Southampton also runners up, in 89 Norwich were only 16/1 for the double at one stage

[@allanwhite1232000]

Brian clough is an absolute legend and gem of a man!!!!

[@erikpedersenisgod]

Bet it was a proper meeting of minds over those drinks!

[@clydethevizsla2470]

Brilliant, stumbled across this. Both club legends respectively 👍👌

[@stevenaranyi1701]

Notts forest won European Cup twice under this for me one of the greats Mr Brian clough they have been in the wilderness ever since he left that's what a big legacy he left Rip sir brian

[@talkinghead3169]

I was a teenage Celtic fan when Jim's Dundee United team were flying(They won the title in 82-3)and they would always give us a game, and sometimes a battering. Also watched every big Euro game they played-I remember getting 2 free periods in school, just so that us and the teachers could watch United take on Roma in the European cup semi-final! The Champions league semi-final!!Wow! Incredible team, incredible manager, even if he was a bit of a grump:)

[@jamessim1858]

All great managers grump dude

[@D_B_Cooper]

I think he played up to that persona!

[@glasgowgrad]

He is a gem of a guy. England should have picked him as their manager.

[@danw1374]

The FA wanted a yes man who would do as they were told and not ask any questions, of course thats the last thing cloughie was and they knew it. He even said in an interview once "The FA were worried i was going to take over the place. And i wouldve done, lock stock & barrel."

[@Smudgeroon74]

How good of a manager was Brian Clough? If he'd been chosen to be England manager they'd have won either the 1982 or 86 World Cup. Or maybe both. He was an extraordinary coach/manager.

[@Kidraver555]

He would have really structured english football from the school system up, sad his vision was never recognized, just fat arse old men treading water till the next long lunch.

[@kanifuker721]

@@danw1374 Spot on, those ol' duffers upstairs picked the teams from then right up to the Gerrard Lampard days. Southgate has been a breath of fresh air for England fans.

[@kailashpatel1706]

@@Smudgeroon74 The 1982 world cup would have been something, he would have started the rebuilding phase post 1977..

[@hugodrax71]

These were genuinely great days. One of the country's top managers dropping into a no-frills studio to talk honestly and candidly about European competitions that mattered and were coveted, and which "unfashionable" clubs had the chance of winning - and we didn't have to pay to watch any of it. Great times - and how we took it all for granted back then.

[@Wokefreedundee]

two greats of British football ,on par with the likes of fergie jock Stein and shankly

[@fifelad]

Cloughy and Maclean were cut from the same cloth. Dundee Utd should also have been in the European Cup Final against Liverpool. Years later it was proved the referee was bribed by Roma in the semi final. The 80s were a great era for Scottish Football due to the fact that the Old Firm monopoly was smashed by Utd and Aberdeen. So boring now only 2 clubs have a chance of winning the Scottish Premiership.

[@neilmccormick2064]

Nice one. I'm a Celtic fan;but I have enormous respect for what United achieved under Jim McLean,he was a remarkable manager very much like Cloughie in a lot ways. RIP 🙏

[@starofdavid9919]

Loved Aberdeen and Dundee Utd coming to Parkhead in the 80s, always guaranteed a cracking game.

[@Kenside2603]

Brilliant man…Brian clough should of been England manger but like it is still today with Harry redknapp not getting the England job , The FA wants a yes man…….

[@mervyncharter717]

Every year that goes by when you consider his achievements with Forest and Derby County the fact that he did not get the England Managers Job looks more outrageous. One of the TV stations should make a documentary into this as it is scandalous.

[@oldskoolfool141]

It's such a shame, the England managers role has never been about Englands team success, it's always ALWAYS been about keeping the old boys club intact, 'feather rufflers' need not apply

[@kailashpatel1706]

@@mervyncharter717 Yep in the late 1970s -early 1980sEngland had some excelllent players such as Hoddle, Cowans, Statham, Alvin Martin, Bryan Robson, T. Francis , Coppell, that Clough and Taylor could have moulded together..

[@scooby1992]

@@oldskoolfool141Clough told it how it was or at least how he saw it and the powers that be couldn't have that could they ?

[@73reider]

Man Utd should have broke the bank to try get Clough after Tommy Docherty was fired.

[@CMEAGAIN]

load of bollocks..why would you change things? fergie would not have replaced atkinson thus us missing out on the greatest manager ever

[@user-li3fr8jl3b]

Should have had him in early 70s more like. He was better than Docherty

[@craig1553]

Remarkably restrained for Cloughie as he hated Bob Wilson and thought that Bob was a bit like a school teacher. Classic.

[@Al-kk4pf]

Actually when you look back at Clough's interviews you realise what a sharp football mind he had. It's always a joy to listen to his thoughts, even if he thought the question was stupid, he could still give an interesting answer. Imagine having a pundit like that now...

[@geoffpoole483]

@@Al-kk4pf On KZbin you'll find an old tv documentary on Clogh when he was at then newly-promoted Derby County. Well worth watching.

[@Al-kk4pf]

@@geoffpoole483 yes I've seen that before and also the interview he did with John Motson where he basically said that the media were over-analysing the game and spoiling it for TV viewers. Made Motty very uncomfortable. Should have been England manager without a shadow of a doubt.

[@trebleking1641]

Brian Clough and Jim McLean who were two giants who took small clubs and made them brilliant sides. Both ruled every aspect of their clubs with iron fists, and they were all the better for it.

[@Gethsemanes]

Brian clough what a legend. He knew football and how to play the beautiful game the right way. I'm a liverpool fan but always admired clough, it was terrible to see what his addiction to the game and booze wrought on him. Brian ynwa where ever your soul is.

[@Replydickhead]

One legend talking about another is.. Legendary

[@matthewturner2803]

Well said. Their achievements at their respective clubs were magnificent.

[@Daveonarave]

Agreed and another legend in the mix in Bob Wilson

[@stephenmacdonald76]

he knew the final was not cut and dried, but I'm sure he was pulling for them

[@Anthony-Testicali]

Big Jim and Dundee Utd were robbed of a european cup final ( champions league final) by a cheating bribed referee...they schooled the Italian champions it shouldve been dundee utd v liverpool. And in 1987 they just lost steam in the final but Gothenburg were a very strong team with the nucleus of the 1994 world cup semi finalists...utd shouldve won but mcclean could be harsh on his players that must in part explain so many final failures

[@willbee6785]

All I know is Brian Clough is the greatest of them all. Peter Taylor his r/h man had a big hand in it. Dear England, you missed the best chance “ever” of winning the World Cup, for a second time, by not appointing Mr Brian Clough. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿. We all knew in 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 he could do it.

[@wayfinder6715]

Jim McLean, Brian Clough, Alex Ferguson.

[@mcharrisment4765]

Shankly, Paisley, Kendall and Robson also from that era

[@ga-ow7yf]

DON REVIE.

[@geow6100]

Walter Smith

[@fraz6354]

@valleywoodworker Paisley also won the UEFA Cup, and in that era it was probably just as hard to win as the European Cup.

[@poneil8845]

Jock stein was the man when Glasgow Celtic beat inter Milan TWO WAN 1 ST NON LATIN TEAM TO WIN IT A RESS MA CASE

[@neilmccormick2064]

I've no doubt in my mind Cloughie could have won the world Cup for England if he'd been given the opportunity . He once touted himself for the Scotland job ,kind of half jokingly. I think he'd have taken a lot of satisfaction in putting together a successful Scotland team if only to show the daft buggers at the English FA just how stupid they were to not give him the England job.

[@kailashpatel1706]

The 1982 World Cup would have been a hard task?

[@MrLadeside]

That man was the best manager the England football team never had..... Cloughie was a genius !!!

[@tedphillips3765]

Not sure he would have been a success as England's manager. There were quite a few of the stars that did not like his style at all. Including Ball and Keegan.

[@carrington8999]

Forest were a small club but after they won the European cup they are universally know as a big team.

[@robertryan6782]

What a piece of analysis.

[@waynegordon4115]

No nonsense man

[@alexisbuchanan2028]

Rip Jim...thanks for the memories

[@Tony-ll6cd]

A true great talking about another legend .When the game was truly a joy to watch.What Jim achieved with Dundee United will never be matched RIP Jim and Brian.

[@salamander981]

I love listening to Cloughie, such an education. He was spot on when he said that smaller clubs like Forest and Dundee United winning things is "stimulating" for the game. The Big/Wealthy clubs` monopolisation of football i find rather "unstimulating" these days.

[@KryptonitetoallBS]

Before the Swalley had got a right grip of him. RIP to both Cloughie and Jim McLean.

[@dangothdangoth5449]

Mr clough was a genius and a gentleman

[@hjyigo4759]

It was a great, great pity that they didn't win.

[@MosesDeLaRoses]

How in the name of suffering buggery does a team knock Barca out, then lose to Gothenburg?

[@marcuskingstanley9522]

Fatigue, smallish squad, we were beat by st mirren in the scottish cup final the week before also

[@MosesDeLaRoses]

@@marcuskingstanley9522 I see. Wasn't knocking your club by the way, was just a bit flabbergasted because I've been reading up on your man McLean and he really seemed to know his onions

[@marcuskingstanley9522]

@@MosesDeLaRoses thats ok. I didnt think you were being critical. It was a simple question. Gothenberg were better than barca and munchengladbach to be fair

[@MosesDeLaRoses]

@@marcuskingstanley9522 I suppose every dog had his day back then. Steaua Bucharest got to a couple of European Cup finals, and will we ever see Nottingham Forest Vs Malmö in a CL final again? Not likely. Crazy stuff

[@marcuskingstanley9522]

@@MosesDeLaRoses is its all about money and sqauds now. And smaller clubs cant hold on to their players and build teams like the old days. Having said that Leicester was a minor miracle

[@marcuskingstanley9522]

As a United supporter of that period Utd were never a great "possesion" team but we knew how to defend and take our chances, on the counter, in big games

[@themanftheworld8439]

Cloughie should have become SAFC manager when Stokoe left in 1976.

[@yippyialeftside8351]

forest decent size club hardly small

[@trebleking1641]

I'm not sure Nottingham's that much of a football town. Certainly not as into football as Derby..

[@KeithWilliamMacHendry]

Well! When Cloughie speaks & gives praise, it counts. Two marvellous football men & that is a fine tribute from Cloughie indeed. I’m a Rangers fan, however, I wish both of these men had been Rangers managers at some point. Like Souness they’d both have dispensed of that obscene signing policy our custodian fools had in place.

[@markpaulo269]

Love the man.all the best from qpr

[@willbee6785]

I was on a short break with my dad in London. We watched QPR v N Forest. Cloughie came over to the Forest fans who had got a reputation by then for swearing on the terraces. His plea for them to stop swearing went unheeded. I think he realised his limitations. The fans had a great laugh though.

[@glasgowgrad]

Oh I know and totally agree. It's the same reason why The Netherlands never picked Cruyff.

[@darth6466]

It's funny how Cloughy only seemed to like being on ITV. He disliked BBC and absolutely hated Sky Sports.

[@stephenagould6159]

A no nonsense approach interviews. Spoke his mind. And good sense of humour.

[@tomduggan51]

Retro Dundee United, Thanks for this interview clip-as mentioned elsewhere two legendary managers who revolutionised their respective leagues with supposedly unfashionable clubs. RIP Brian and Jim-football in its present form just not the same!

[@andrewstevenson6540]

These men would be considered a bully nowadays, but they were experts at making the most of the talents available to them. Modern posers just couldn't handle it.

[@sonnycorry5888]

RIP Jim

[@brianmuir9059]

Never heard anyone swear as much at a football game, never mind the dug out, as Jim McLean. Definitely not someone to have fallen out with.

[@talkinghead3169]

They also reached the UEFA cup final the following season. They were a great team. Guys like McAlpine, Heggarty & Narey, Gough & Malpas, Bannon & Milne, with the brilliant combination of Sturrock & Dodds up front.

[@PureExile]

That's the season they are talking about here, bro'. Dundee United beat Barcelona in the quarters and Borussia Monchengladbach in the semis before losing to IFK Goteborg 2-1 on aggregate in the 1987 UEFA Cup Final.

[@RonniesPokerRants]

It was that season he reached the final. And semi of the big one 3 years earlier when we was robbed in semi by a dodgy ref in Rome and then we'd have beaten Liverpool In the Rome final.

[@TheHungryTrollRawr]

forget your Guardiolas etc, these 2 legends took small clubs to the pinnacle of football, not with endless bags of money either. Lets see pep do what they did?

[@robharding4028]

Such a great man in the game, not every one liked Cloughy, But I bet they still respected him for his achievements in the game, if not then , but years later.

[@gvrhi4dr6647]

Jim McLean one man manager- should of managed Scotland

[@rickster101]

2 great football men that didn’t mince their words remarkable achievements from both highly entertaining teams and upset the big hitters in Europe R I P Legends of the game👍

[@neilmccormick2064]

Have you seen Wee Jim belt Scottish reporter John Barnes in the gob during an 80s interview? Funny as fuck 🤣

[@neilrafferty2097]

American Pie to Dundee Utd is some journey .

[@myaphextwin807]

RIP Gerry

[@alexfelton1201]

The Greatest!!!

[@steverigler5162]

FrEWrkDS new@020

[@darrendouglas3704]

Brian Clough the Legend showing respect to another Legendary Manager Jim McLean .People talk about Sir Alex Ferguson BUT Jim McLean was every bit as good esp tactically McLean built a solid Dundee United squad & like Clough he too should’ve been given Int Managers job for his country Scotland. Stayed loyal suffered no fools he ran his Club like Manager should with iron fist .Sure Alex Ferguson like Cloughie would shower Jim McLean with highest respect & no doubt if McLean had went to big club down South fans would have him on par with Fergie & Cloughie Lacked their personality say he avoided the media BUT on the pitch saw his football genius. Like Brian Clough the terraces neutral footy fans alike Knighted true masters ( that would mean more than visit to Buck Palace for these men) Sir Brian Clough & Sir Jim McLean managers who entertained the paying fans. RIP CLOUGHIE

[@camp14dogg]

Class recognises class.

[@DMMJBSM]

Rangers fan, but that Utd side between 82 - 86 were brilliant to watch,probably lost to the better team in the UEFA final, but cheated out of a European cup final against Liverpool in 84 when Roma officials bribed the ref. McLean was a legend of a manager, albeit an absolute headcase.

[@wir154]

My friend, the late Geordie Skelton, was a scout for Dundee United, during the latter McLean era anyway and beyond. He later signed Duncan Ferguson for them. Never managed to persuade him to try and get United to change their name back to their old, far cooler sounding moniker, of "Dundee Hbs!"

[@yoric6939]

God Clough was a different class! Thank God I lived my youth watching the football of these times, imo a far better game than nowadays

[@hugoagogo9435]

No box ticking in this interview. Just a pure football man talking sense about another pure football man. Bring back those days

[@bluebirdwsr]

Good to hear a straight interview instead of listening to over paid ex footballers analyzing every move.

[@UserOfTheUnknown]

Brian Clough was a legend! GBNF

[@tortinwall]

A lovely man. Kind, charming, modest. A true gentleman.

[@maxwellfan55]

Was anyone so utterly committed to this game?

[@Marlondurran]

Top man Brian..

[@JonJon-rj6xo]

Intelligent man

[@JacobiteBhoy]

Brilliant video

[@beenhereawhile8803]

All the great managers will be together in heaven 🙏🏻

[@tamhaswoods9056]

Imagine the proper #bantz going on up there :D

[@webster1062]

Superb

[@user-li3fr8jl3b]

What final was it? Cup winners in late 80s?

[@cdtaylor1981]

The UEFA Cup Final.

[@swineheartdoppleganger5516]

UCF 1987 Dundee Utd lost 1-2 over 2 legs.

[@wir154]

@@swineheartdoppleganger5516 And 3 seasons after managing to emulate the achievements of their rivals Dundee, of 2 decades earlier and managing to reach the European Cup Semi Final! In fact, no fewer that 8 different Scottish clubs have reached at least the semi stages in European competitions and most of them have managed that on more than 1 occasion!.

[@callesierra]

Nice to see an interview without two people facing each other with face masks on.

[@robertryan6782]

Nice to see there are people who are keeping mental institutions busy in yourself, a lot lot of excellent staff there.

[@godzilla12325]

Should have recorded it in longplay to maximise space on your vhs tape 🤣