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@StreamOnMax
@StreamOnMax Жыл бұрын
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@delfin5418
@delfin5418 Жыл бұрын
In hindsight, it makes sense why Greg was so pissed that Portia was here since she wasn’t part of the plan! It’s a good thing Jack had a sense of compassion and let her go
@minigiant8998
@minigiant8998 Жыл бұрын
it's not real, it's made up.
@neesa1384
@neesa1384 Жыл бұрын
Was Portia supposed to die???
@LynXify
@LynXify Жыл бұрын
i dont think portia was supposed to die. she was just supposed to stay away and that is what jack was doing
@thepolloelectrico1117
@thepolloelectrico1117 Жыл бұрын
There was no compassion there, it just would've been too suspicious if both died.
@sultanaljuhani1571
@sultanaljuhani1571 Жыл бұрын
@@LynXify I don't think so, probably the plan was to kill her and make her disappear. So would be the two women disappeared from the island. if she would be alive, she could point to the people Tanya were hanging out with.
@brahicmorgan8893
@brahicmorgan8893 Жыл бұрын
I am utterly devastated that we don't get more of this character next season
@Trueo9re
@Trueo9re Жыл бұрын
She could come back as a ghost to haunt Greg.
@lisadiconti
@lisadiconti Жыл бұрын
@@Trueo9re Yes...I was thinking this too.
@lisadiconti
@lisadiconti Жыл бұрын
Me too.
@jeffreybeitz948
@jeffreybeitz948 Жыл бұрын
Her identical twin will show up and take revenge on the mastermind of this plot... Portia. Sorry Mike White your not tricking me. Tanya lives.
@fv6125
@fv6125 Жыл бұрын
It's about time she leaves the show. It would be so unrealistic if there's always a murder while she is vacationing in that resort. Ironically, she became the victim after she mentioned that something always happens whenever she is at the White Lotus resort.
@teilorsoares8864
@teilorsoares8864 Жыл бұрын
The video is missing Matteo crying when saying goodbye to Tanya and refusing going with them in the boat, probably because he didn't want to kill her.
@lisadiconti
@lisadiconti Жыл бұрын
Aw...at least one of them had a heart.
@moneykenny119
@moneykenny119 Жыл бұрын
@@lisadiconti Eh I’d say he’s even worse than them, he wanted to live his lavish lifestyle but was too scared to get his hands dirty. Scumbag behavior
@kazehazeee
@kazehazeee Жыл бұрын
@@lisadiconti yeah, good to know he also survived from the shooting lol
@itsnotaboutyou
@itsnotaboutyou Жыл бұрын
Come through, Groucho Marx
@lisadiconti
@lisadiconti Жыл бұрын
@@kazehazeee Too bad he didn't save her like how Jack saved Portia. :(
@BroCapitalista
@BroCapitalista Жыл бұрын
The fact we all love Tanya and Jennifer too much, we basically brainwashed ourselves that anyone could die but her. Even with all these hints throughout the show. We refuse to believe that possibility.
@ryanpatrickpreston
@ryanpatrickpreston Жыл бұрын
Good point about willful blindness though Mike White did say more than once in interviews that he was leaning toward bringing Tanya into the next season and confesses to the occasional misdirection.
@colton4261
@colton4261 Жыл бұрын
Why does everyone always say “we”. Not everyone thinks like you do.
@ryanpatrickpreston
@ryanpatrickpreston Жыл бұрын
@@colton4261 Fair point but then look at your comment. 'Why does EVERYONE ALWAYS..." Just as egregious if not more so.
@colton4261
@colton4261 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanpatrickpreston No there's a difference. I'm using "everyone always" as a generalization. And anyone with a brain can tell it's a generalization. He's saying "we" as to say that all the fans of the show think the same way he does. I see comments like this all the time and it's annoying. So mind your business "Ryan Preston"
@ennb8695
@ennb8695 Жыл бұрын
@@colton4261 Actually, "we" would count as a generalization just like "everyone always".
@Bioenthusiast
@Bioenthusiast Жыл бұрын
I legit cried when she died. She was in an obvious confused and terrified state of panic and tragically died while trying to escape. That was a super depressing scene for me, but absolutely genius ending.
@sienissa
@sienissa Жыл бұрын
I thought that was the most hilarious scene. Sad she died but that shooting scene was a comedic gold. I cried because I laughed so much.
@michaeldowd4774
@michaeldowd4774 Жыл бұрын
it was so depressing for me too. You genuinely felt so bad for her and felt like relieved she could actually survive, and then suddenly she cries, falls and dies. It was terrible.
@valk9519
@valk9519 Жыл бұрын
What are you talking about, her whole character was built around being a clumsy, clueless, rich idiot and both her last lines (is Greg having an affair?) and death hilariously reflected that 😂. I'm only sad we won't get more of her.
@craigfrancis1640
@craigfrancis1640 Жыл бұрын
what was even more genius is we saw it right back in episode one, when she couldn't arrive at the White Lotus dock gracefully because she could NOT GET OFF THE BOAT IN HER HEELS 😅😂🤣
@Rfpenab
@Rfpenab Жыл бұрын
@@sienissalmao same 😂 I swear to god. I thought it was brilliant
@kevanmcdougallmph
@kevanmcdougallmph Жыл бұрын
In episode 2, Tanya asks Valentina who Tanya looks like. Valentina says "Peppa Pig". Tanya says "I'm Monica Vitti". Valentina responds "Monica Vitti's dead, but yes."
@honeymoonavenue97
@honeymoonavenue97 Жыл бұрын
Yes omg
@ewolfgirl
@ewolfgirl Жыл бұрын
Valentina was a piece of work! 😂At least she was finally nice to Rocco
@PynApolJosh
@PynApolJosh Жыл бұрын
HAHAH Yes!!
@IssuesWithMyTissues
@IssuesWithMyTissues Жыл бұрын
yes the whole season is supposed to be an homage to the movie "L' Avventura" that stars Monica Vitti. I loved this season. I took 4 years of Italian and Valentina reminded me so much of my teacher who played that movie for us as well.
@MissInformed10
@MissInformed10 Жыл бұрын
Valentina was so wrong for saying Peppa Pig, like couldn't she come up with anyone else 😂😂
@mugatu2601
@mugatu2601 Жыл бұрын
Loved the way the shot her death scene. Showing her as she fired the gun and not the other way around. It kept the tension, with us not really sure if they're dead. We got no clue besides the sound of bodies falling. It didn't seem too violent, cos thats not what the show is. It helped us care more for tanya and join her in the panic and confusion.
@bigbootyboy420
@bigbootyboy420 Жыл бұрын
That’s true!!! I’ve never see a scene like that from that perspective
@umj199
@umj199 Жыл бұрын
"These GAYS! They're trying to murder me!" 🤣 Her lines are so iconic! I'm going to miss her character so much.
@yasminevine
@yasminevine Жыл бұрын
It's a song now on Instagram and tiktok! These gays they're trying to murder me 🤣😅
@mycasualworld
@mycasualworld 8 ай бұрын
is it "These" or I thought "The" gays... :)
@shawncarter5434
@shawncarter5434 Жыл бұрын
This makes me sad. Not only because of Tanya’s death but because Greg basically gets everything
@prestuvius
@prestuvius Жыл бұрын
You do realize there would be an investigation in the event of her suspicious death, and he’d likely be found partly culpable, right?
@sadie9728
@sadie9728 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they have a witness who knows everything. He's screwed.
@oscarfun100
@oscarfun100 Жыл бұрын
@@prestuvius Yeah, I mean the captain of the jacht did get away. And there was another guy who jumped into the water. So 2 gays. ... "These gays try to murder me." OMG, this was so sad and hilarious at the same time. Poor Tanya.
@bendover3653
@bendover3653 Жыл бұрын
@@sadie9728 The only 2 witness that were on the boat only saw Tanya killing a bunch of people. And Portia doesn't actually have any proof of anything that happened. So Greg deff gets off scott free with all her money.
@plsbenice
@plsbenice Жыл бұрын
@@bendover3653 he made the calls to Quentin though. A proper investigation would be able to connect the dots.
@MissBliss818
@MissBliss818 Жыл бұрын
I was devastated when Tonya died. Something about her death just felt so real.. kudos to Jennifer Coolidge, I hope she wins an Emmy for her performance.
@jsalinasbarros
@jsalinasbarros Жыл бұрын
Already did 4 the same character, a year ago.
@danzafrir2900
@danzafrir2900 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s how flawed she was and yet so likable, and how unnecessary and unexpected her death was… Made it all just too real.
@common3480
@common3480 Жыл бұрын
Yes, her character, and all the characters in this show, just feel so real… it’s amazing how well this show is able to make these stories feel like legitimate possible plot lines, even with how ridiculous they are on paper. Her character especially was so well crafted and her death was so tragic…
@SergePriem
@SergePriem Жыл бұрын
I had that feeling of reality too.
@chikensaregood9500
@chikensaregood9500 Жыл бұрын
@@common3480 that was the biggest difference between the 2nd season and the 1st, every plotline felt real unlike the employee giving birth the first day on the job in the 1st season etc
@kevanmcdougallmph
@kevanmcdougallmph Жыл бұрын
In episode 3 at the Godfather museum there was a mannequin model of Apollonia Corleone. Bert Di Grasso explains that Apollonia was killed in the movie. In the finale, Tanya was wearing the same blouse as the mannequin.
@Trebz_
@Trebz_ Жыл бұрын
now i get it.
@gardenlover9663
@gardenlover9663 Жыл бұрын
Wow, great catch.
@nellyc1002
@nellyc1002 Жыл бұрын
Good catch 😊
@vigolovesyou
@vigolovesyou Жыл бұрын
I wanna watch movies with you
@rawayanal0ve
@rawayanal0ve Жыл бұрын
when does she wears it? i only saw portia wearing it when their having their last breakfast together
@youtubeblahblahusername
@youtubeblahblahusername Жыл бұрын
unrelated scene technically but in the first episode there’s also a scene where daphne talks about how husbands bring their wives on vacation to kill them
@quentinchapman6987
@quentinchapman6987 Жыл бұрын
Factssss forgot about that
@kyndolled
@kyndolled 8 ай бұрын
I was thinking about that the entire season! I was thinking it would be Daphne or Harper (I think that’s her name) Audrey plazas character
@SpaghettyBabyNoodleBoy
@SpaghettyBabyNoodleBoy Жыл бұрын
Cameron also mentions (I think in the first episode) how you have to be careful because there are these broke Italians with palazzos
@LL-mj6jp
@LL-mj6jp Жыл бұрын
Also in the very first episode, Tanya is being helped get off the boat, and also when Mia asks why she has so many bags, Lucia says something like 'Maybe she's staying here'
@LL-mj6jp
@LL-mj6jp Жыл бұрын
@Gorillala 78 That was ep1 of season 2! I get that it's a joke, but the show has so much foreshadowing, that I wouldn't be surprised that her 'staying here' is also a clue to her dying in Italy.
@dudamendesmili1071
@dudamendesmili1071 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know what they say in Italian but the subtitles said “maybe she’s moving to Italy”
@MaioParlato
@MaioParlato Жыл бұрын
in hindsight that would have been a great line, but she does indeed say (in Italian too): maybe she's moving to Italy.
@MrWizeazz
@MrWizeazz Жыл бұрын
I think she also mentioned how she might fall into the water
@bigbootyboy420
@bigbootyboy420 Жыл бұрын
@@gorillala78they aren’t saying Lucia knew what would happen, it’s just foreshadowing
@lubaniskie
@lubaniskie Жыл бұрын
After Tanya and the gays return from watching the play "Madame Butterfly", Portia asks Tanya how it was and she simply replies "she died". Throughout the play, Tanya seems profoundly emotional and captivated by its tragic beauty and sadness.
@IssuesWithMyTissues
@IssuesWithMyTissues Жыл бұрын
yep and they compare her to Madame Butterfly
@potatoesonpizza
@potatoesonpizza Жыл бұрын
“Seppuku…I can relate.”
@RL-hl1re
@RL-hl1re Жыл бұрын
End of season 1 she says death is the only full immersive experience she’s never done
@SofijaSofijaSofija
@SofijaSofijaSofija Жыл бұрын
Nice catch! I also believe she said that to Greg, right?
@BradTea
@BradTea Жыл бұрын
Watching Greg meet Tanya in Season 1 also makes more sense now. How just turned up and pretended to have their rooms mixed up. How he wasn't put off by her emotional baggage and erratic behaviour. And how he stayed even though Tanya told him to leave.
@Patricia-cn7ox
@Patricia-cn7ox Жыл бұрын
He was gonna die though, he could drop dead anytime before he got healed. I feel she just drove him to the edge.
@KpTheG
@KpTheG Жыл бұрын
@@Patricia-cn7ox or maybe he didn’t have the money to get healed and needed her for that too.
@craigfrancis1640
@craigfrancis1640 Жыл бұрын
Yes , it was so well-done, it was a 2-season-long con of a rich goofball!
@StreamOnMax
@StreamOnMax Жыл бұрын
@@craigfrancis1640 bscccc
@liamhuges
@liamhuges Жыл бұрын
@@StreamOnMax What does that stand for? 😅
@kevanmcdougallmph
@kevanmcdougallmph Жыл бұрын
For me, it's absolutely fantastic writing that Tanya's first and last moments are very similar. As Tanya is getting off the boat in Episode 1, she is wearing a floral dress and heels and is having difficulty getting off the boat, yelling "Ahh Ahh", just like how her story ends in the finale.
@lazaromurad322
@lazaromurad322 Жыл бұрын
Mike White said basically that he decided to keep Tanya in the 2nd season was because of the popularity of the character and also because in the end of season 1 Tanya says to Greg: ¨Death is the last immersive experience I haven't tried.¨ so Mike decide to keep Tanya but she had to go in the end in a ¨very Tanya way just fyi
@bradley4778
@bradley4778 Жыл бұрын
Yes!!!! So on point
@MarkyMat23
@MarkyMat23 Жыл бұрын
You left out the part when the fortune teller right before TANYA pushes her out of the room... She literally said "MADNESS WILL LEAD YOU TO COMMIT SUICIDE!"
@childoftime9964
@childoftime9964 Жыл бұрын
Really? I missed that
@ughIrats
@ughIrats Жыл бұрын
Exactly. THAT was the clue for me.
@SR-kh6yq
@SR-kh6yq Жыл бұрын
@@childoftime9964 She says it in Italian and I'm not sure if it was subtitled, but it's very clear if you understand the language. "La pazzia ti porterà al suicidio".
@childoftime9964
@childoftime9964 Жыл бұрын
@@SR-kh6yq oh ok, thanks for letting me know. I'd have to go back and check to see if it was subtitled, but I definitely didn't notice it
@danielo4031
@danielo4031 Жыл бұрын
Yes! It was sooo sad 💔And her death really felt like an "accidental suicide" cause she was clearly panicked and wearing a huge transparent heels to jump off the boat while there was a ladder there
@jaytops
@jaytops Жыл бұрын
Give this woman a Golden Globe.
@sarahbgln
@sarahbgln Жыл бұрын
She is nominated so hopefully next month we will see if she wins at the ceremony
@jessesanders647
@jessesanders647 Жыл бұрын
Done!
@rexbitten
@rexbitten Жыл бұрын
It creeps me out so much that Greg (Steve) and Quintin were playing the long game and probably hatched the plan before he even met Tanya in Maui. They'd either did research on her and figured out where she vacationed or were there on a costant basis like a predator looking for just the right victim to come along..So chilling!
@etamommy
@etamommy Жыл бұрын
exactly right. If the ploy to "drunkenly" think you are going to your room but its actually Tanya's was the beginning of a hatched and diabolical plan, wow as funny as the show can be that is just pure evil and chills the spine.
@konia2u
@konia2u Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. That their first meeting in Hawaii was all a set up to get Tanya’s money and eventually kill her! Pure evil!
@gnarrcan108
@gnarrcan108 Жыл бұрын
Nah the whole point of this show is kinda the mundaneness of evil. This wasn’t a long con lmao Greg actually had cancer lol and set up this murder plot after he realized he was gonna live and be stuck with a woman he was starting to hate. It being some long con scheme is the antithesis of what Mike White is trying to say and makes the show worse lmao.
@tiffanyhopkins4351
@tiffanyhopkins4351 Жыл бұрын
In season 1 he says he's on a fishing trip with friends yet you never see his friends... I reckon it was more fishing for a rich wife
@HonestObserver
@HonestObserver Жыл бұрын
That's a good detail but maybe Greg just ditched them because he wanted to score. Plus, the fact that he was staying at a White Lotus at all means he was of means. Just not enough to decorate a crumbling palazzo.
@pinkpearl4063
@pinkpearl4063 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe we aren't going to get anymore Tanya next season. I'm utterly devastated! Jennifer was an absolute pleasure to watch!! 👏👏👏👏👏
@Viv89
@Viv89 Жыл бұрын
Do you think Greg will be?
@pinkpearl4063
@pinkpearl4063 Жыл бұрын
@@Viv89 possibly, they did leave him with a story line.
@angeloddrev
@angeloddrev Жыл бұрын
This is what I don't understand! Mike said he wrote the whole show around her, and she stole the show like he knew she would. She IS the heart and soul of the show. It seems nonsensical to kill her off. Someone has big shoes to fill for series 3! I feel it should've ended with Tanya's death.
@TylerDurden-td2yg
@TylerDurden-td2yg Жыл бұрын
@@angeloddrev She is one of many great characters in the show for me. From my observation men like her character in the show but doesn´t feel she is that special. But the women go beyond and above for her. Didn´t know that before going on social media about the white lotus.
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
This series is really great at the foreshadowing, I never would have expected the twist! I'll miss seeing Jennifer Coolidge on the show, though I wonder if Greg will be the next victim if he returns in the next season?
@lisadiconti
@lisadiconti Жыл бұрын
I hope he becomes the next victim. I despise him. Lol.
@b-six-twelve
@b-six-twelve Жыл бұрын
The second season has lots of callbacks/parallels to the first, so it makes me wonder if they’ll bring on an actress with a similarly big, kooky aura next season. Kinda fun to think about who that might be.
@Luckyduck82180
@Luckyduck82180 Жыл бұрын
I heard something about Connie Britton coming back in season three from season one
@ryansingletary7018
@ryansingletary7018 Жыл бұрын
@@Luckyduck82180 who is connie
@johnreposa
@johnreposa Жыл бұрын
@@b-six-twelve I'm really hoping it's Laura Dern
@missym877
@missym877 Жыл бұрын
The way Tanya runs around the boat but starts walking before she turns the corner cracks me up so much! Lmao. It’s giving 7 year old me vibes when my mom would send me down the long dark hallway to get something lmao
@danielo4031
@danielo4031 Жыл бұрын
Yes, and how she thought it was a great idea to jump off the boat wearing those giant heels
@Mt37773
@Mt37773 Жыл бұрын
That it was staring us in the face the whole time and we didn’t see it coming is great storytelling by Mike White!
@bradley4778
@bradley4778 Жыл бұрын
💯
@playsaboutmycat
@playsaboutmycat Жыл бұрын
Yes!!!!
@jorgegarciapascual5709
@jorgegarciapascual5709 Жыл бұрын
There's also Cameron saying in the first episode that these European aristocrats are always basically broke, no cash at all, only their palaces.
@andrewluce5264
@andrewluce5264 Жыл бұрын
I wish I could be that broke lol
@wameezy
@wameezy Жыл бұрын
They inherit the land not the money that’s why .
@mek_wtf
@mek_wtf Жыл бұрын
We need a Tanya prequel series.
@kahra76man
@kahra76man Жыл бұрын
her last 5 minutes was some great great acting. i hope she gets an emmy or something.
@bigbootyboy420
@bigbootyboy420 Жыл бұрын
Another Emmy 💅
@jjveliz10
@jjveliz10 Жыл бұрын
It’s chilling to see Tanya realize the plan coming to fruition, all while being stuck on a boat out at sea with hardly any escape at all. I would have alerted Portia to call the authorities and send help for her the moment it all made sense.
@WinstonSmith685
@WinstonSmith685 Жыл бұрын
She couldn't. She accidentally dropped her phone in the sea. I guess she could have tried using one of the phones left behind by the guys that she shot but she was so scatterbrained, it seems highly unlikely that she could have Portia's number memorised.
@justagirlsd3000
@justagirlsd3000 Жыл бұрын
But Jack grabbed the phone before she could say anything more.
@TheOnlyJuann
@TheOnlyJuann Жыл бұрын
THIS SHOW DESERVES EVERY AWARD IT'S GONNA GET.
@Rfpenab
@Rfpenab Жыл бұрын
Ik people love her but I have to say, her death was one of the funniest things I have seen on television in a very long time. Absolutely brilliant!! All of it
@steph7614
@steph7614 Жыл бұрын
I was laughing and in shock and sad at the same time. there's no other character in any show who I believe would try to land on that boat in those heels. Her though? Totally believable. Everything about her is so believable as crazy as she is. And when she acts normal or makes sense for a split second it's hilarious because she is anything but.
@its_elkku135
@its_elkku135 Жыл бұрын
There's a very brutal kind of humor to it, quite similar to the death of Armond actually
@pressrepeat2000
@pressrepeat2000 Жыл бұрын
Loved the show, it was so amazingly well done. But will miss Tanya. The ending was unexpected as I definitely thought she’d survive somehow. I was really hoping she would be the common thread between every season. Great acting, I hope she wins all the awards.
@klu5301
@klu5301 Жыл бұрын
Icon. Legend. Star. The queen always & forever.
@matheusg4288
@matheusg4288 Жыл бұрын
There is also Quentin telling her about his only love that was a cowboy (which is actually greg, they were wearing cowboy hats in the photo together) and then that even after all those years he would still do anything the guy asks him (killing tanya)
@justaride77
@justaride77 Жыл бұрын
1. The gays telling her she’s like the tragic heroine of an opera 2. Madame Butterfly 3. Greg’s mysterious phone calls 4. Seeing Quentin and Jack together 5. Quentin telling her he’d “die for beauty” in a really sinister tone 6. Her husband Greg in a damn portrait with Quentin 7. the sky 8. water
@dc6461
@dc6461 Жыл бұрын
He would die for beauty?
@derfelkardan7369
@derfelkardan7369 Жыл бұрын
What about that scene that Quentin talks about this cowboy he met when he was young and says “I’d do anything for him” - including bordering someone else
@cindimams4394
@cindimams4394 Жыл бұрын
Oh man! I’m going to miss Tanya. Please bring her justice in season 3. Greg doesn’t deserve her money, I hope we see Portia do something about it. I love this show so much ❤
@fald33
@fald33 Жыл бұрын
Lucia (Simona Tabasco) and Mia (Beatrice Grannò) deserve their own spinoff tv show, depicting their misadventures in the hotel. The rest of the italian cast is welcome as well.
@childoftime9964
@childoftime9964 Жыл бұрын
Well Lucia scored $50k in the end, so they could show up again at a different resort
@ankurama42
@ankurama42 Жыл бұрын
@@childoftime9964 In a way, Greg did with Tanya what Lucia did with Alfie. Both immoral, just one is more extreme!
@childoftime9964
@childoftime9964 Жыл бұрын
@@ankurama42 in a way yeah
@shellyscreation3339
@shellyscreation3339 Жыл бұрын
As much as I love Coolidge's performance as Tanya, I firmly believe she had it coming. Even if I keep aside the in-your-face foreshadowing throughout the season (the most obvious one being Madam Butterfly), the constant "death" comments were there from the second episode itself. As for Tanya, she's probably one of the most interesting and well-written character I've seen. She reminded me of Dani from Midsommar a lot! The co-dependency on a man, the getting lured by a group/cult, the being seduced by someone "better" than her current partner (Pelle in Dani's case. The Mafia guy in Tanya's), the knowledge of betrayal, and the ultimate breakdown that follows it. The only difference is in how their characters ended. Imho, what Tanya really needed was therapy and a good support system comprising of friends (preferably female friends) who had her back, NOT constant male validation and affection to make her feel good about herself. The way I see it, it was probably karma for treating Belinda the way she did.
@lar9299
@lar9299 Жыл бұрын
Idk if this counts as justification but I believe Tanya was completely oblivious about the way she treated Belinda. She was nice and kind to her but, as you said, her need for male validation kept her away from Belinda. At the end, I think she sort of learned a bit abour herlself better and declined to give Belinda the money for her plan. To sum up: if Tanya hurt Belinda, she never meant to, she was way too into her own problems to actually care about others.
@islandgirl1403
@islandgirl1403 Жыл бұрын
A huge clue was Puccini’s opera Madama Butterfly. Those who love the opera know it ends very tragically for the used and discarded Butterfly singing the famous aria about waiting for her husband to return to her in a white ship she sees docked at the shore. I knew right away Tanya’s fate was sealed. If you’re ever lucky enough to see a performance of this globally beloved opera, I dare you not to weep at the end.
@anabelle..
@anabelle.. Жыл бұрын
Ahh I’m so mad about the fact that she died when she finally figured everything out. Now Greg will get all her money, which obv isn’t what anyone wants. But it also made sense that she’d die. They hinted about it many times and I think a large part of the audience figured she’d die. Sure was a silly way to end it though. Tanya was the only one who could take Tanya out lol. Also, so happy that Jack let Portia go because otherwise she’d probably be dead alongside Tanya. He showed he had a heart after all.
@Professicchio
@Professicchio Жыл бұрын
Considering the mess she left behind before dying it's unlikely that Greg will inherit the money so smoothly, it's in fact more likely he'll end up in jail. It wouldn't take long for the police to figure out that Tanya's washed dead body and those from the yacht are connected, also considering there's at least two surviving witnesses from that night, sooner or later someone is bound to squeal it all. Greg's big mistake was to hire someone flamboyant and careless like Quentin (who didn't even bother hide the photograph of himself with Greg while Tanya was in the villa, really?) to the dirty job. He could have easily found a regular sicario to do the job in Sicily for a fraction of what he promised Quentin and minimum of fuss 😆
@anabelle..
@anabelle.. Жыл бұрын
@@Professicchio ahh you made some great points! It would actually be weird if Greg got the money. But I guess you never know.. and yeah Greg really could’ve made suuuch a better job by choosing someone more careful.
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
I had a feeling that Greg was the guy whom Quentin fell in love with thirty years ago, and that's why he went along with Greg's plan to murder Tanya.
@notthefather3919
@notthefather3919 Жыл бұрын
Of course he was. Why else would those guys try to kill her.
@lauralouwhooo
@lauralouwhooo Жыл бұрын
Of course. He claimed he was a "straight cowboy" then later after getting caught with the photo describes the cowbody stuff
@norbieg227
@norbieg227 Жыл бұрын
I thought that was obvious
@LindseyObrooke
@LindseyObrooke Жыл бұрын
The second he said that, my guard went up.
@TheRausing1
@TheRausing1 Жыл бұрын
That’s literally the story? Did you miss the part with the photo of them?
@arielantoniorosenberger3336
@arielantoniorosenberger3336 Жыл бұрын
In one of the episodes there's a transition of the scene where she's at the opera and she stars to shed a tear, and then the camera slowly moves further from the scene until she's visually enclosed in courtains to then transition to the sea at night. That shot was so subtle and beautiful, yet so ominous. That moment I knew that she was going to be the one who dies. It even shows the way and place it was going to happen. Extremely good directing and photography!!
@minkki5656
@minkki5656 Жыл бұрын
A lesson to learn, never let a group of people, gay or straight, talk you into going somewhere else, especially when you don't know them . Tanya was as naive as they come . She constantly looked for love, approval, and belonging, three things that could make anyone make bad decisions, and she did. Marrying Greg, for one. All those subtle red flags, and leaving her hotel with those men. Portia, worst dressed character I have ever seen, naive as well, but she lived. I can see them bringing Jennifer Coolidge back, as a twin, I mean, who knows??? I just never figured her character was actually going to die.
@SergePriem
@SergePriem Жыл бұрын
No. Coolidge isn't a format for many episodes. She is a support style character. Third season with her would be too much.
@craigfrancis1640
@craigfrancis1640 Жыл бұрын
I love your comment, but I'd add that as well as being naïve and needy, she's a horrible user of people, sucking them into her own narcissistic drama - see all of Season 1, or her treatment of Portia, even though it was played for laughs. She's not like a victim making bad decisions, she actively makes them for her own gratification. I love how Mike White's writing is not very moral, but has a high sense of karma
@chaosdream21
@chaosdream21 Жыл бұрын
"Never follow a hippie to a second location." - 30 Rock
@351528
@351528 Жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Portia was terribly dressed. It makes sense that Tanya asked her if she had anything cute to wear on the yacht.😄
@lar9299
@lar9299 Жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? I loved Portia's outifts. They were so suitable for her personality. And on vacation!! I mean, I don't think I would wear those myself, but I liked her style
@coquelang
@coquelang Жыл бұрын
I hope to see Portia in the thrid season spreading tanya's ashes 😪
@koenkeep
@koenkeep Жыл бұрын
"She loved the ocean. Just loved it!"
@SofijaSofijaSofija
@SofijaSofijaSofija Жыл бұрын
💀
@Shapingus
@Shapingus Жыл бұрын
Tanya wears the same thing in the finale as the test dummy in the exploding car did a few episodes earlier. And right before "A far l'amore comincia tu" starts playing in the season premiere, you hear opera music
@kevanmcdougallmph
@kevanmcdougallmph Жыл бұрын
Quentin takes Tanya to the opera to see Madama Butterfly. Madama Butterfly stars a bereft wife who kills herself when her husband leaves for another woman.
@grovercg
@grovercg Жыл бұрын
Talk about the power of writing and acting...we were screaming at her to go down the back of the yacht to escape where the ladder was and her death literally made my wife sad for a couple days.
@MauryPuare
@MauryPuare Жыл бұрын
The way the clues were so obvious yet so subtle really created a lot of tension.
@avenida1340
@avenida1340 Жыл бұрын
The twist where she kills everoyne is amazing. glorious but why kill her... we need her next season, that was the only thing that sucked.
@senguptasayn
@senguptasayn Жыл бұрын
Fun as it is,the show will never be the same without Jennifer.
@eddyalvarenga
@eddyalvarenga Жыл бұрын
Mike White is a genius.
@ericimi
@ericimi Жыл бұрын
True , he's way better than Zac Wilson and when he comes back next season the jets are making the playoffs .
@danielo4031
@danielo4031 Жыл бұрын
I'm completely addicted to this show, the second season was even better than the first one and I need the third one like right now 😭😭😭 (I wish it was in Brazil btw)
@Wasimq
@Wasimq Жыл бұрын
Lmao her death scene was hilarious 😭
@mesalouis8976
@mesalouis8976 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, it was.
@BPBeckford
@BPBeckford Жыл бұрын
Hilarious with shookethness! 😭😂
@josephirizarry5195
@josephirizarry5195 Жыл бұрын
It was a bit of levity after all the murder and mayhem.
@MSSBy
@MSSBy Жыл бұрын
For however messed up Tanya was, it was pretty amazing how she pieced it together in the end
@joliburs
@joliburs Жыл бұрын
Tanya ain’t deserve to go out like that. And Greg definitely doesn’t deserve to win.
@marla591
@marla591 Жыл бұрын
We will see Greg S3 and I think he will somehow "see" Tanya.
@BKtheRapper
@BKtheRapper Жыл бұрын
@@marla591 good one
@Professicchio
@Professicchio Жыл бұрын
Win? I don't think so! Not with the mess Tanya left behind before dying.
@alphaperez
@alphaperez Жыл бұрын
Obsessed with The White Lotus. Jennifer's portrayal of Tanya is incredible. I thought it was going to be the locals who died at the end, like Lucia. Tanya is such an iconic character it's hard to imagine she won't be back for S3. Falling off the boat...that 'clang' when her head hit, I yelled out loud. It was so satisfying to watch her figure out the plot, and to get the gun and actually shoot her way off the boat. And yes she died in perhaps the most Tanya way possible.
@michsy6489
@michsy6489 Жыл бұрын
Tanya ate 3 cookies - killed 3 gays left 2 cookies - 2 gays escaped
@noodleppoodle
@noodleppoodle 10 ай бұрын
OMG good catch! And they were macaroons too xD
@clarasousa9233
@clarasousa9233 Жыл бұрын
When Cameron is talking about how these european aristocrats have these incredible palazzos, but they're all broke..... so subtle, but so amazing
@joel-cx7hm
@joel-cx7hm Жыл бұрын
It makes sense that greg is working for the “land of bureau management” and his partner owns big houses that needs taking care of
@matthewchristopher16
@matthewchristopher16 Жыл бұрын
Amazing finale. One of the best in TV history honestly. Completely caught me off guard
@Kristin2885
@Kristin2885 6 ай бұрын
The final scene was an emotional ride. I was so scared for her as the murder plot was revealed, then elated when she had the gun and was just knocking everyone off, and then when she fell, I initially laughed like "classic Tanya" and assumed she would surface and drag herself into the boat. When she didn't I was so shocked I literally screamed "what???!" at my TV. Couldn't believe she went from badass to total tragedy so quickly!
@dirtyharry6297
@dirtyharry6297 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely magnificent series from start to finish 👏🏻👏🏻Cast, story, dialogues , atmos
@nicholasgarrick8855
@nicholasgarrick8855 Жыл бұрын
Justice for tanya😢
@ciaransammon
@ciaransammon Жыл бұрын
Tanya will be so missed 😢
@Moniker699
@Moniker699 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting these together. I love the way the writers take you through this labyrinth. It's great.
@okmega22
@okmega22 Жыл бұрын
Tanya: "Is Greg having an affair?" Quentin: *gurgles blood*
@imsp1ceg1rl
@imsp1ceg1rl Жыл бұрын
I love Jennifer/Tanya waaaaaay too much to think that it was time for Tanya to checkout!
@dianeblumenthal5951
@dianeblumenthal5951 Жыл бұрын
Boy, Greg was working the long con !!
@bellacontreras8614
@bellacontreras8614 Жыл бұрын
Also the gay that stayed and said goodbye to her before leaving w the rest of them was crying like knowing what was gonna happen..
@oliverscarlin
@oliverscarlin Жыл бұрын
In the early episodes, during slow motion shots of waves crashing underwater, we hear washed out snippets of Puccini's "O Mio Babbino Caro" as if played underwater. This track finally plays fully and unaltered upon Tanya's underwater death scene. Tom Hollander's character compares Tanya to a tragic Puccini heroine. The lyrics to "O Mio Babbino Caro" involve a woman threatening to drown herself (throw herself into the water) if her love has turned out to be in vain.
@fede28646
@fede28646 Жыл бұрын
Tanya is the best character of season 2
@CoilyTwin2
@CoilyTwin2 Жыл бұрын
Also when Jack is carrying Tanya’s luggage into the house and he asks if there’s a dead body in there. And when Tanya says she trying to look like Monica Vitti, Valentina reminds her that she’s dead.
@sliceserve234
@sliceserve234 Жыл бұрын
Wowow, in hindsight there were SO SO many clues and hints!!! Genius script, pure genius.
@Quadtuplitets
@Quadtuplitets Жыл бұрын
You know I knew something was about to happen with Jennifer because she was the only one not using a Apple Phone. Apple doesn't allow "villans" to use apple products in films or tv. It hurts the brand. Fun Fact! I will say I was still utterly surprised.
@TheWinnie42
@TheWinnie42 Жыл бұрын
Really ? Lol that’s cool fr
@littleghosdt
@littleghosdt Жыл бұрын
wait so by that token, her character wasn’t allowed to use one bc she was a villain? or i suppose her shooting a bunch of people despite it being self defense doesn’t look “marketable” for apple either
@hugoperezart
@hugoperezart Жыл бұрын
When shes wearing the pink outfit before getting on the Vespa and tells Valentina "I'm Monica Vitti" Valentina responds with "Monica Vitti is dead."
@LeoSpaceman69
@LeoSpaceman69 Жыл бұрын
"peppa pig!"
@Perrystrologist
@Perrystrologist Жыл бұрын
My face when she fell 😮🫥
@lisadiconti
@lisadiconti Жыл бұрын
I kept looking for her to come up from the water. :(
@childoftime9964
@childoftime9964 Жыл бұрын
I yelled out loud, I was so surprised
@cocojustino3783
@cocojustino3783 Жыл бұрын
I hope next season follows the general formula that it’s an unrelated storyline from the last HOWEVER the one thread that ties it in is Greg. I hope we see him get what he deserves karmically
@Mislavvvv
@Mislavvvv Жыл бұрын
They are probably just gonna reference Greg is in jail or something. He's not an interesting character/actor
@yolisazokufa
@yolisazokufa Жыл бұрын
defo knew the gays were schemers when tanya peeped 'nephew' topping uncle. while it did not surprise me i was gobsmacked at the audacity! could have never predicted the finale though the bizarre coke fest was telling.
@naydine4339
@naydine4339 Жыл бұрын
I found them sus but I assumed they were just going to trick her into funding their villa or giving them money somehow since they were broke but not that
@gordonmcmanus1238
@gordonmcmanus1238 8 ай бұрын
she is the best artress alive
@KaritKtana
@KaritKtana Жыл бұрын
They didn't include the part of the fortune teller freaking out and trying to warn Tanya that she's in grave danger and that she needs to flee (that's what I got from very basic Italian proficiency 😅)
@inachristine
@inachristine Жыл бұрын
I only accepted she was going to die when she asked if Greg was cheating after knowing he plotted to kill her 😂
@MYZTICTRAVLER
@MYZTICTRAVLER Жыл бұрын
This show was astounding on many levels. Right up there with Outer Range, Severance, and The Handmaid's Tail to name a couple of my favorite shows. Tanya is now my new favorite crazy woman replacing June from The Handmaid's Tale.
@MYZTICTRAVLER
@MYZTICTRAVLER Жыл бұрын
And finally at the end, I understand who Greg was saying "I love you" to on the phone! It was the little gay guy from England who rounded Tanya up for the boat trip, Greg's lover and accomplice.
@ByAnnieDevine
@ByAnnieDevine Жыл бұрын
Greg was on the phone with him in season one also!!! “Bob”
@donutboy9576
@donutboy9576 7 ай бұрын
Why why why 😭😭😭 give back my Tanya!!!
@TheElizondo88
@TheElizondo88 Жыл бұрын
Here is my take for season 3 based on Mike White interviews and foreshadowing on the next season; it will be set in either the Maldives or Bali - Cam and Daphne will be back this time with their kids, as Connie Britton and her husband but without their kids, and a new third group of guests. It will once again be a local who dies and likely someone like Belinda in season 1 (a local "exploited" by the locals).
@ryanpatrickpreston
@ryanpatrickpreston Жыл бұрын
The only Eastern destination that Mike White mentions explicitly is Japan. I think a tropical spot like Miyazaki, famous for its huge surfing waves, makes good sense. Japanese culture has a wealth of awesome uniqueness as well as a rich spiritual tradition (Zen, Shinto). Bali would make sense in terms of luxuriousness but I wonder whether the Islamic element there would work with a show like WL.
@Noel-Marie4
@Noel-Marie4 Жыл бұрын
I think Porsche and the son are going to be in the 3rd season because of the exchange of numbers at the airport.
@LeoSpaceman69
@LeoSpaceman69 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanpatrickpreston Bali is famously the only Hindu island in indonesia ffs
@LeoSpaceman69
@LeoSpaceman69 Жыл бұрын
@@Noel-Marie4 not PORSCHE lol
@Noel-Marie4
@Noel-Marie4 Жыл бұрын
@@LeoSpaceman69 Is that not how it's spelled?! LOL oops!
@AA-qb7ni
@AA-qb7ni Жыл бұрын
I wanted Tanya to be in every season, but the intensity of her storyline this season was amazing. Jennifer is coming for that second Emmy!!!
@klu5301
@klu5301 Жыл бұрын
Icon. Legend. Star.
@benkopite4767
@benkopite4767 Жыл бұрын
She didn't deserve to go out the way she did especially after the badass move she'd just pulled but I appreciate the realism. Amazing character!
@justaride77
@justaride77 Жыл бұрын
Lol Quentin could have said “we’re going to kill you” straight to her face, and it probably wouldn’t have clicked
@Professicchio
@Professicchio Жыл бұрын
Too bad he was so cocky not to hide that portrait of him and Greg from his bedroom.
@justaride77
@justaride77 Жыл бұрын
@@Professicchio for a sec when she questions him about the portrait and didn’t say “that looks just like my husband” right away, I thought she had caught on the murder plot and was trying to outsmart Quentin 😂
@Professicchio
@Professicchio Жыл бұрын
@@justaride77 Nope, not that smart but eventually she figured it out 😁
@SpencerLevey
@SpencerLevey Жыл бұрын
Jennifer’s performance as Tanya over two seasons was magnificent to watch. Her death scene hit me like a ton of breaks. Auntie deserved a better life.
@Plum20
@Plum20 Жыл бұрын
I still want an explanation for the missing macarons in Tanya’s room
@Squishy876
@Squishy876 Жыл бұрын
Her twin sister better be on next season
@Boahemaa
@Boahemaa Жыл бұрын
Just dawned on me that Greg must've been lying when he said he was dying in season 1!
@farcinue
@farcinue Жыл бұрын
Fantastic finale with so much building tension. Still, I’m bummed she died. She would have been the one consistent character to tie the seasons together (Greg is not that interesting).
@kelleylmiller
@kelleylmiller Жыл бұрын
Look, I know we are all upset about losing Jennifer Coolidge for season 3 but just hear me out. What if we got Laura Dern as Dominic's jilted ex-wife next season instead?
@marla591
@marla591 Жыл бұрын
YAAAAASSSS
@johnreposa
@johnreposa Жыл бұрын
I've been thinking this too! really hoping that's where they go with it. She and Mike White are magic together.
@jnanasiddhy
@jnanasiddhy Жыл бұрын
They showed his ex-wife's picture on the show. It is not Laura Dern
@kelleylmiller
@kelleylmiller Жыл бұрын
@@jnanasiddhy When did they show the picture?
@jnanasiddhy
@jnanasiddhy Жыл бұрын
@@kelleylmiller When he's crying holding a picture frame with his wife and daughter in it. It's in the finale
@angeloddrev
@angeloddrev Жыл бұрын
Tanya will be greatly missed! What I don't understand is why someone with half a billion inheritance a) didn't have her own security b) wasn't the one throwing the awesome parties and choosing the hot men herself and c) married someone without having a private detective both check his history and give her constant feedback of his real whereabouts whenever he left her. She'd make so much money each day in interest, she wouldn't even notice the cost of the security nor the extras to keep her safe.
@nellyc1002
@nellyc1002 Жыл бұрын
Second scene was crazy! She predicted without knowing it!
@vinitsunita
@vinitsunita Жыл бұрын
It was surprising that after removing every possible threat on the boat, Tanya eventually ended up killing herself as she slipped from top of the edge on the yacht. I was expecting that she would be alive but What a tragic death for her.
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