CMSF2: ATGM Ambush

[@koedkaop9665]

This mission is really great for beginner, it teach you to move infantry using micro terrain, using target arc to observe the enemy and most importantly learn to fear The ATGM !!

[@VynalDerp]

I didn't learn any of that haha. My infantry sat for 20 min with a target arc seeing nothing until I moved them over the crest and got immediately blasted by an MG.

[@decimated550]

@@VynalDerp lol you gotta recon by casualty. Send the Gomer pyle of the unit ahead, tell him he'll get a shiny medal and a promotion. Use him to draw fire

[@Daz30]

A good reminder that the scouts don't always spot everything, so never assume all is clear. Something i learned the hard way with this mission. I agree it is a good learning mission especially if you fail a few times and learn from your mistakes.

[@sullybiker6520]

This is probably the single most imporant rehearsal mission for CMSF2 and CMBS. It teaches you pretty much all the techniques you need to use.

[@sullybiker6520]

There's a weird thing in CMSF2 with ATGMs, they're very resistant to spotting until you roll a vehicle into sight. The most extreme example I've seen of this is engaging a building with occupying infantry at 50yds, and using a Brad for support. As soon as the Brad rolls up an AT team _in the garden_ makes itself known... If you've ever done the TF Thunder campaign, there's a beast of a scenario named 'Into the Valley' that is similar to this mission, but much bigger.

[@decimated550]

Well yeah, the AT guys are hiding deep, not going to be magically detected

[@julianjackson6824]

I agree this is a good newbie scenario. Not too many forces but quite a few small tactical problems. I moved one of my Brads to the right side to get lines onto the enemy troops, but I tried then to employ the hummer with the sight there, although I'd got it hull down, something still blew it away. Creeping along the left flank gives you some nice cover to bop in and out of, if you read the ground carefully.

[@Fubbo]

Excellent perspective on how to tackle this mission. Maybe my next try won't end in stalemate! Thanks for this content!

[@badipaddress]

Great channel, great contents for CM2. I hope you do some scenarios / tutorals on how to use Syrians, they seem quite difficult to play.

[@jackcoleman1784]

I believe the correct way to describe this road would be to say it's "a little hairy".

[@justina6176]

Excellent video. I learned a lot and you did a fantastic job with narration and camera angles.

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@TheGalahad78]

Great! I tried this scenario some days ago (totally noob here), glad to see how the pros tackle this situation.

[@nbr1rckr]

Was wondering when this was gonna drop. V nice.

[@aarnoman1088]

Great video, was looking forward to seeing how you tackled the mission!

[@freestanding]

This was helpful to watch, i barely completed this mission and totally missed the usefulness of javelin launchers for spotting and the humvee with the spotting equipment.

[@richardhutchinson4740]

Great use of graphics. Really enjoying your CMSF2 content but still hanking after a big ww2 scenario again.

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Oh, we're going to WW2 ;)

[@korbe4799]

Very good CMSF2 tutorial. Thank you.

[@dozendinks2366]

Get a patreon or a donation link! Your content is by far some of the best CM stuff out there.

[@burningphoneix]

This was the first scenario I played! I could never get more than a minor victory. One of the AT-4s will always splat a bradley or Humvee and drag down my score.

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Yeah, I feel I got lucky when that one missile face planted the valley floor.

[@burningphoneix]

@@usuallyhapless9481 It probably didn't help that I didn't know how the M707 worked and him hulldown and INSIDE the vehicle and after a couple if turns was like "Well all this recce tells me no one is there time to move up the Bradleys" XD

[@hmabboud]

FINALLY, someone did a video about this!

[@xx512]

I second this!

[@hmabboud]

@@xx512 Sorry?

[@xx512]

@@hmabboud i also have the same comment as yours

[@leeharden4060]

Thanks for posting these, id never heard of these games before. I enjoy the hell out of game even tho it's just mostly me rageing

[@DrewShotsFan]

Great work again, UH. I'm not a newbie by any stretch, but I still want to give this scenario a go. It looks like there are some potential banana skins. I always play on Iron setting, which may or may not make a difference. I might try the optional C2 rules too, to make it even more of a challenge

[@System-Update]

Do a report from the Syrian side. On the higher difficulty settings it can be really difficult because the US can detect and engage before the Syrians have even pinged them. Essentially they AT assets get 1 chance before being turned to pink mist so if they don't get the first round on with 1960s/70s era kit they die. Would be good to see what you can do with the defenders even against the AI.

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Certainly one for consideration. The AI is pretty easy to deal with, even as the Syrians, but I've got a Red vs Red game in the pipeline.

[@burningphoneix]

To be fair the AT-4s, despite being old tech, can really trade quite well with anything short of a Leo or an Abrams. If you have uncons in a high civilian density setting and a keyhole, you can get 2, sometimes 3 shots off before the US side can get some fire back on you.

[@federicosantoro7100]

@@usuallyhapless9481 one way to give the ai a chance or make things more difficult in general in single player is have house rules to limit the use of area fire. I use are fire or call arty only when a unit has a contact icon with the enemy unit. I wait for the information of were the enemy is to be passed on. For example i never fire on a building with a tank from the other side of the map as soon as I know the enemy it's there. If after some time i click on the tank and it can "see" the enemy contact icon on the building then i allow myself to area fire it with the tank.

[@ktall6749]

@@federicosantoro7100 I have been doing the same. Technically, I think it meets the intent of the command and control and against the AI, makes the scenario a bit more challenging and fun. Of course, in a really tough scenario, it is hard to stick to those role playing rules.

[@majormuckup373]

Thanks Hapless, another Brillant video for us noobs out there!!!

[@sirfanatical8763]

Could you do the Will o Whisps?

[@Hiddenronin]

What I prefer about these games over Wargame is how Infantry are actually useful. In Wargame if your Infantry aren't in a city they get wiped out in no time. Even dense forest doesn't protect them much.

[@scottjoyce702]

Great video as always and thanks for the teaching. I know you've said it before, but now that it's on Steam can you please recap which mods you use and if they are compatible with Steam please and thank you.

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Cheers man! Links to the mods are in the video description (they should all work, but sometimes they die), the Steam version is essentially no different from the BF version of CM so any and all mods should work fine.

[@scottjoyce702]

@@usuallyhapless9481 Thanks so much!!! Keep em' coming please!!!!

[@cesurkarakus209]

Why my spotter team armed with javelin never use their javeling against enemy SPG-9?

[@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl]

I think it was the first game. As such use something like the Sniper's Bible DOPE Data Of Personal Equipment. Look at the capabilities of all your vehicles( PDA's) and weapons.

[@yousefal-hadhrami7853]

how to you force fire the javelin missle?

[@mrward6510]

Found very hard not to suffer casualties in this Battle

[@stardekk1461]

Is thisintented to have a scenario with the Bradley after a units guide on him ?

[@stardekk1461]

BTW at 12:34 how did the Javelin locked on to the AT-4 what was hot enough for him to be able to lock on ?

[@usuallyhapless9481]

1. Ideally, yes, it seems like a good idea to follow up a unit guide with a battle involving the unit. 2. The Javelin was probably just direct fired without a lock.

[@Ramiiam]

Looks better if you kill the shadows.

[@SwEaTyBaDgErtHiRtEeN]

3:36 how do you get this menu up?

[@nbr1rckr]

Spacebar

[@SwEaTyBaDgErtHiRtEeN]

@@nbr1rckr Thanks, huge quality of life improvement

[@usuallyhapless9481]

The amazing things you find by randomly mashing the keyboard.