If ArmA was an RTS - Combat Mission Shock Force 2

Cheers to Slitherine for giving me a free copy of Combat Mission Shock Force 2 along with the DLC!
Honestly forgot I owned that book, it's good fun to read again. Now that I know the game better, Combat Mission is a lot more fun to play. I wish someone would do a bit more with the game in terms of the overall scale, UI and campaign side. The actual gameplay itself is pretty great.
By the way, pro-tip! If you want to play, play in turn-based mode. It lets you skip the minute of resolution, meaning you can actually fast forward time compared to real time mode which lacks that.
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[@Okada_Caelun]

6:08 - "Man, if I had some artillery this hill would be absolutely plastered by now..." Spoken like a true Guardsman.

[@glorvalmacglorvas6082]

Spoken like a true *American* WW2 Germans who stepped on a stick when an American with a radio is near: *panic*

[@leobezard5998]

@@glorvalmacglorvas6082 nah a true guardsman asks for exterminatus and an american asks for nukes

[@WeirdPros]

@@leobezard5998 You're proving his point" They each immediately ask for the largest, most destructive solution to the problem available in their current technology level.

[@SurprisinglyDeep]

@@glorvalmacglorvas6082 What would a true Welsh do? Lol. As a Canadian, I think a true Canadian would call in an air strike and then apologise out loud

[@SurprisinglyDeep]

@@leobezard5998 American G.I: "Why dah hell wood I waste dah taxpayers money on ah nuke when I could just call in an airstrike from ah B-52 Stratofortress!? Its tah cheapest way tah rain hell from on high down upon the enemy!"

[@Teriton]

I always wished Combat Mission had a co-op feature. Imagine doing a company scale mission with each player controlling a platoon, or a combined arms operation where one player commands the infantry and the other armour. It would make those larger scale missions more manageable and a blast

[@MrFusselig]

This is possible! You you can give out your orders, save your turn and send it to your friendly player, who then ends the turn and send it to the opposite team. I already played a 2vs2 match in fortress Italy. 2 Companies of British paratroopers against Italian and German Soldiers... the poor guy, who had to play as Italy...

[@Spider-Too-Too]

just need to stream the game have have a few bros radio in (voice chat) how they want their platoon to move and the streamer guy just input all teh command

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

Yea there are work arounds but pure coop in real time would be amazing.

[@MrFusselig]

@@JarthenGreenmeadow Okay, that is not possible. It is only possible in PBEM turn based mode. And it is a clunky work around indeed. But whoever plays Combat Mission should not have a problem with clunkyness.

[@drifter493]

World in Conflict is basically that but everyone controls one type of army

[@drama7152]

"I cant bombe that it's a town" oh like that has stopped you before

[@LDZMarder]

Yes it dose if you play the the NATO campaign or missions you fight under strict ROE and even if you can plaster a town, keep every single one of troops alive you will loose the battle and the enemy wins.Your solider and you have your orders. You there to get rid of the Syrian troops not the civilians. Murdering women and children is not acceptable.

[@Shloomy_Shloms]

L DZ I think the joke has gone over your head

[@sam8742]

@@Shloomy_Shloms I believe he was just trying to add context.

[@drama7152]

@@LDZMarder I know just making a joke about past videos

[@eugenekrabs869]

@@LDZMarder if only the real NATO in Syria acted like that

[@ryanlorenzo5003]

It's always Achmed who tries to clip through the walls in search for infidels.

[@4T3hM4kr0n]

I laughed so hard XD

[@FeyTheBin]

Didn't Achmed got drone striked by Valve Anti Cheat?

[@yanislahtal6253]

@@FeyTheBin freekazakstanihacksnovirus never ever VAC, and you know !!!!

[@someonenamedilay7347]

its ahmed

[@jadonberg9364]

It's a shame no one remembers him.

[@sproge2142]

God I love Combat Mission, it's such a unique game that really makes you use tactical knowledge like no other, it lets you actually use the tactics of the real world in a way that would be called "roleplay" in ARMA. It really is the ultimate in WarGaming. And as a fun side note, it has some excellent youtube creators! Usually Hapless is an example, he's currently making tutorial videos for the steam release, Josey Wales is another excellent player but with a less frequent upload schedule. I really can't recommend getting into this game enough, it will single handedly change your outlook on wargaming!

[@pixpax1720]

can you capture abandoned vehicles with your troops?

[@NickJones-dm7ux]

Justin Kwok no but your troops can pick up weapons off of dead enemies if they run out of ammo

[@Spider-Too-Too]

combat mission is an infantry game where th eentire ao is less than 20 square KM iv yet to find a good rts that allows my red army armor tide to uses its quantity advantage

[@Spider-Too-Too]

@@NickJones-dm7ux they can? tho, my soldiers always doe beofre they run out of ammo lol

[@Spider-Too-Too]

@@pixpax1720 there are many common sense mechanism that should be in a war game like this but no. cant get stuff out of a knocked out armor vehicle is one thing. (you can still get in and get gears if its abandoned, but not knock out. ofc, if its on fire, i wouldnt go in) and there is no flare for night ops... well, thats my main complain, xuz i like to play the underdog and thr lack of flare really makes me struggle against russian and american

[@midamulti-tool]

I would honestly watch a stream on this game

[@simplyhammer5105]

4:50 I've seen this tactic from your squad in Arma... so I figured they learned from the best

[@GaldirEonai]

"Rimmy talks about ArmA AI" is rarely unwelcome.

[@Icechuck]

Absolutely love these games, glad to see them getting more attention. I definitely think you should play in the WEGO/Turn based mode, as that allows you to skip time and gives you exponentially more control over your troops.

[@RimmyDownunder]

Yes ^ the turn based mode is better because you can also skip time unlike in real time. Makes the game MUCH more fun to play

[@kashk42]

@@RimmyDownunder Being new to this game I gotta disagree... I had a real hard time in turned based. I got it to work much better for me in real-time simply because I could be more responsive. A minute is both nothing and a shitton in this game based on the situation...

[@Bruh-hq1hx]

@@RimmyDownunder this game made me even more confused about the syrian war

[@chunkysweirdtoaster3081]

When Rimmy said, "the AI here is better than-" my brain immediately completed it with "some of the people I play with" for some reason

[@vampyrcat866]

i was waiting so long for a CM video i knew it was inevitable, especially after seeing the desktop icon in the "arma 3 how to make an operation" video. nice video rimmy.

[@benjaminbarley4813]

Rimmy: "this mortar fire is really danger close" Field Marshal Haig: "ah yes, creeping barrage"

[@Soridan]

"100 pages" "Big book" I weep for humanity.

[@TheArklyte]

Well, for being a manual to a videogame in 2020 because developer didn't include it and proper tutorial INGAME it is a big one. The idioticy is in the fact that it exists instead of being included ingame. So yes, I also weep for humanity and you are part of the reason why:D

[@Soridan]

@@TheArklyte That's a lot of words to say that you're missing the point. A 100 pages is not a big book. Not even close to it. That's like novella length at most and a manual will be less dense due to formatting, graphs and pictures. Everything else is literally, not figuratively or virtually but literally, irrelevant to this.

[@TheArklyte]

@@Soridan it's not a book, it's a manual. That shouldn't be printed in the first place. Hence why it's a failure. Both on developers part and on yours to make a joke/statement. It's ironic that it is me, who's missing the point, but at the same time it is also me, who has to explain my point the second time.

[@Soridan]

Rimmy literally calls it a big BOOK at a 100 pages. That is what I quoted from him and mocked, since that is anything but a big book. Do you work in marketing? I don't give a flying fuck about your vendetta against printed words and your inability to cope with a printed manual.

[@Drkon6]

@@Soridan You give off the vibe of being an edgy teenager and nitpicks stupid shit to feel smart. An 100 page manual is huge for a video game, if you're getting hung up on "book", you're probably on the spectrum.

[@kksmith244]

"Impossible skill ceiling" ? Rimmy needs to play Command: Modern Operations

[@infernosgaming8942]

Do not disturb me while I study my circles

[@masterchief7098]

Or graviteam tactics

[@Shrike200]

EVE Online = spreadsheets in space CMO = Spreadsheets on Google Maps

[@monsterkitty6921]

Funny thing, C:MO is made by the same devs as Combat Mission

[@masterchief7098]

Monsterkitty love to know where you got that. Battlefront.com devloped combat mission and until very recently they also published it. Whereas cmo is made by warfare sims and published by matrix games who recently took over or have taken part of publishing combat mission shock force 2

[@wilhelmkaiser1435]

Honestly, the game doesn't matter as much as how fun it is to hear you enjoying yourself.

[@kordathbleu6049]

What a fantastic thing to come home from work to, a new Rimmy vid

[@Delta_rocket]

Rimmy: hmmm, we should retreat A.I.: me am tank

[@umad42]

Me shoot Guy, maybe run if Anti-me?

[@finisterre2415]

Hallelujah! This game is finally getting the recognition it deserves.

[@JagerLange]

I miss manuals. I also loved Combat Mission through the Beyond Overlord to Afrika Korps era. I would like to see more.

[@aidanfarnan4683]

Rimmy: *Calls air support on his own fortress to go out on his own terms* Also Rimmy: *Doesn't show the explosion in the video*

[@RimmyDownunder]

It took like 14 IRL minutes to arrive or something, I wasn't waiting that long

[@Arth0715]

i love this game series so much . *especially when your king tiger gets bogged down*

[@DarthFolo]

"It's a big book" *Looks at bound AJS37 Viggen flight manual next to my desk*

[@Ryan-hx6pm]

For a game. A flight manual is different lol

[@DarthFolo]

@@Ryan-hx6pm Let me introduce you to DCS.

[@timothyleach5082]

Could we see a LOT more of this?

[@barrycabbageM34]

Hell yes! I adore combat mission and I'm glad to see it getting some more attention from some larger channels. you should totally do more combat mission!

[@genericpersonx333]

I always liked the Combat Missions series. The idea was to make a strategy war simulator that played like chess, so it was alright if it took a long time because you weren't expected to be in a rush anyway. You even had the option to play it like Chess-by-Mail, with two human players able to upload their decisions to the game at their leisure so you could spread the experience out over time, instead of having to block off several hours at once. I was a bit bummed when graphics compatibility issues made it impractical to play on my new desktop years ago, but the basic premise is still sound. I would be keen to see how the series is these days.

[@robertd9067]

This is amazing, this game needs much more popularity and rimmy’s helping with that

[@Atrahasis7]

For me this is really the true 3D successor to close combat.

[@Niasall]

I'm so glad I get to see you playing Combat Mission Rimmy! It's one of my favorite series.

[@harperre]

So happy you played this game, this series was a big part of my childhood. Now all we need is this in a Valkyria chronicles setting.

[@tr0ubledreligi0n44]

I have enjoyed this rant about how arma's ai is ass.

[@biscuit715]

The guy that creates ops for our group swears by LAMBS AI mod and from what I've seen it's great. Its let him just leave missions so that he can play with us.

[@PeterHyder]

Hey Rimmy - In Combat Mission there are still sometimes things that are simulated but not portrayed in the graphics (yet). For instance when you were worried about the flat seemingly devoid of cover terrain at the 10:35 mark - depending on the terrain type the simulation takes into account micros cover. Natural deviations in normal ground.

[@siy1580]

this Video introduced me into the Combat mission games, and now $468 later i now own all of them

[@willybur7779]

Honestly, I'd love to see more of this, it's pretty neat and interesting

[@ProfessionalProfessorPat]

Always cool to see these neat slitherine games.

[@Seriousjaffa121]

I'm so glad this game is getting attention, the whole series is great

[@mish165]

It's wonderful to see this game getting the attention it imho deserves, the multiplayer by turn is fantastic and the code is truly voodoo

[@benecraft0520]

Nice Stolz von Bayern (Pride of Bavaria) Finally we made it into a modern military videogame

[@sryan5512]

Would completely support you doing more combat mission

[@noahstrickler1962]

Yes so glad to see you playing shockforce 2

[@h0ts00p3]

“Me am tank” -Rimmy

[@nathanfyre6645]

It's awesome seeing combat mission hitting steam and youtube because when I was little I would play around with Barbarossa to Berlin and Afrika Korps (not at all well), and it brings back some very fun memories

[@Rick586]

Great way to start the week!

[@walterbenford]

I use to have a Combat Mission game till I lost it. Loved it. Great video.

[@quintonthesecond4420]

Please play more of this game bro, the exposure will really help the game developers grow. And you gotta try it out with mods. Modding is the staple of the CM series

[@HolgerHendel]

very nice video. when i got in contact with combat mission, all other games i know had to be compared to it. until today, no other game has even come close to matching the combat mission games. It would be a pleasure for me to see the combat mission games from you, which were set in the second world war.

[@peterisbb]

This game is an interesting watch. I wouldn't mind seeing more of this, and it might make good background footage for bad frag or something

[@Zury1ogen]

I actually had a copy of a disk of the first game. Its quite interesting at first. I always play custom/skirmish to just see the US and Syrian tanks take out insurgency. Can't believe you played it to.

[@canada6242]

I love to see more of this

[@THEPLGHOSTPL]

I want MORE of this game Rimmy please ! :D

[@DoubleTrouble-li5wi]

Would love to see a more of this.

[@syrusalder7795]

Rimmy: I can't bomb that, that's a town! Me: you clearly need to channel your inner american then, because that's not a town, that's enemy cover

[@galeybrit3448]

Yup, I definitely need more of this

[@sawyerawr5783]

I feel like this is a really interesting game, and I've love to see more

[@BiFurDoggy]

I'd really love to see more of this

[@bboysergiorock]

That looks bloody fun

[@charlesgrimmer6486]

I'd love to see more of this

[@Dracologist]

that little machinegun tank is adorable

[@UnclePutte]

Fascinating. Reminds me of good old Steel Panthers a fair bit, except with all that real time business.

[@devourerking23]

Would definitely enjoy more of this game.

[@stuartrodden3009]

Love this, would like to see more

[@kevint1929]

I remember playing my Dad's copy of Combat Mission... Normandy, I think it was? when I was a little kid. Fricken loved that game

[@jackwelborn7989]

I would love to see more combat mission

[@Thes4LT]

This game looks genuinely cool

[@matchesburn]

7:36 - [Rimmy Rants about ArmA AI] The funny thing about this is about 6 months later you guys tried out Hetman AI commander for ArmA and it was so good it almost won and occasionally seemed smarter than actual human players. I actually would like to see Hetman investigated further and seeing just how advanced and how much it can adapt.

[@bobtoad2171]

i am looking foward to this

[@Wyn_Wins]

I do love spending 2 irl hours doing 1 mission

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

You know what we need? A Korean War scenario

[@10thlegiongames70]

I would be super interested to see some multiplayer Combat Mission!

[@steweygrrr]

I want to say this looks like a cross between Eugens Wargame series and ARMA which is a combination I never knew I wanted. I will give you an IOU for someone else's firstborn child for more of this.

[@larrybertrand1094]

I'd love to see more combat mission shock force 2

[@doggish8462]

oh i got it and love this game hell yeah great vid

[@TheRealHusk]

I’m so excited for this fucking game you have no idea, I’m shitting my pants right now, it comes out September first. I’ve been playing CMBN for years, I’ve been playing combat mission since I was 6 years old, I’m 23 now, insane. You should do a video on combat mission: battle for Normandy, it has a lot of DLCs and an updated engine, it’s been their main focus for a few years!

[@boshikagebira4753]

How the hell did a Harry Potter house send you this game

[@theh.i.v.e9036]

Magic.

[@Oblivionreaper115]

Please do more of these

[@bogatyr2473]

I played a lot of Combat Mission: Barbarossa to Berlin. Loved that game.

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

Slytherin deserves all the points for giving you a free copy. Clearly the superior Hogwarts house

[@Kaiimei]

If ArmA had intelligent and dangerous AI that worked in squads with combined arms, even potentially using artillery units in the rear-line to harass enemy forces before coming in with armour to finish off any sort of assault...I'd hate it, but I'd love it at the same time.

[@EB-fc2mp]

I'm pretty sure sending your troops into that mosque in the first mission is probably some kind of war crime. Not even 5 minutes in, good job.

[@OodldoodlNoodlesocks]

Oh wow, this is a blast from the past. Didn't think they were still making these games. Though graphics look much about the same :P

[@4T3hM4kr0n]

YES! definitly want to see the WWII variant!

[@obi-onechromosome1538]

An amazing video to get on a not so nice day

[@simonf823]

For the love of god, stream this, I’d watch this far too often

[@kashk42]

LOVE this game. Hadn't even heard about it before it was announced that it'd hit steam, got the demo and fell in love. Bought the full DLC package. The campaign is pretty epic as losses are carried over from mission to mission so you don't just have to win, you have to do it with minimal casulties as well or you'll be screwed over down the line. Worst part is that you have to unlearn pretty much everything RTS-gaming has taught you over the last 20 years though, or you will have you face smashed in on a regular basis. Video-game logic gotta go, and you have to actually go back to your basic training from the army (you know, if you've ever been in one) to figure out how to best do stuff. And that is the amazing thing, shit I was taught back in basic IRL actually WORKS in this game.

[@joseywales3848]

Nice point well made. The correct application of real world tactics such as fire and manoeuvre make this game series one of the greats.

[@cherno8119]

5:31 an RTS where your units aren't straight up just braindead and you don't have to babysit them the entire time? holy fuck

[@Zoraxon]

Really cool game, I'd watch more of this one, and/or the others in this game series. One thing I've thought would be fun would be to use spectator/Zeus as a pseudo RTS game, so you've got the masterminds placing orders, and you've got the units on the ground following orders. Might already have been done, might just be impossible, but I think it'd be neat to try

[@whya2ndaccount]

Can't fault the enthusiasm.

[@ComradeSulomon]

This guy is playing in real time instead of 1 minute increments holy shit.

[@NoNamer0909]

OMG RIMMY IS MAKING A VIDEO ON COMBAT MISSION!

[@VictorSierraGolf]

"man, this has an impossible, like, skill ceiling to get into" [laughs in Dwarf Fortress]

[@maximum90]

It's great to see a game i love coming to steam. The pvp is great, the single player is great. You can even email a save game back and forth to play if you and your friend can't play at the same time. I prefer the turn based mode, but each their own. I'm just happy at the chance to play with more people. Also a side note, in the turn based mode there is a speed up button.

[@jeroylenkins1745]

It's really cool how you immediately need to worry about battlefield geometry.

[@acestillwell98]

I fell in love with the game the moment he said the A.I. can think for themselves.

[@alphanoodle1877]

another day of me asking for a cult of heretics in arma

[@APineTree]

It took Rimmy about 4 minutes to commit a war crime by occupying what does appear to be a Mosque

[@codycampbellfishing2007]

We need rimmy to do a no cursing challenge or the video ends i know its not his style but it would be funny as hell

[@ObviouslyNotXenrek]

game seems to remind me a lot of a, say, 3d Close Combat that i used to play as a little kid on the Mac.

[@lawpete556]

this looks pretty fucking cool

[@gasmonkey2687]

I give the intro a 10000000000/10

[@og-bleistift]

that intro tho XD

[@hopin8krzys]

I love Men of War series, but I always wished it was more in depth and with more micro. This game seems to be just what I wanted, I have to check it out. Thanks for this Rimmy