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[@Grits420]

I've learned more about colours in your 3 videos then I have in 30 years of life

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😁😂😁 Super glad to hear that's useful 😉😊😉

[@13Robzilla]

Couldn't agree more, passed a color theory class years ago. Learned more from this video and truly understood it. I think Marco May have missed his calling, but so glad he did as now we all benefit from his awesomeness!

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

@@13Robzilla hahaha thanks man!!! This is really appreciated 😉

[@innsmouthharbour]

@@13Robzilla +1 million %

[@philgee486]

+1

[@tokoloshgolem]

Awesome. A year of university colour theory in 12 minutes

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😍 Too kind!!! But yeah the density of information in this one it's pretty high 😊

[@dylancaygill8407]

Love this channel nothing on youtube come close to the depth and understanding this channel provides.

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Thank you soooooooo much!!! I don't have the words to tell how much this is appreciated 😊😉😊 Really thanks a million man!

[@plumfun6750]

As a 3d guy, I learned this about 2 decades ago (along with all the other foundation stuff like sketching, life drawing, lighting, film theory, etc). I must say, however, you have an EXCELLENT grasp of the concepts and your method of explaining it is even better than the 'pros' in the industry (3d) that were trying to teach it to us! :) .. Well done, sir! Subscribed and I think I'm going to just have to put these three Colour Theory vids on repeat as I practice my mini-painting skills (just getting back into it after about...huh...a 20 year hiatus...coincidence with my 3D schooling?...I think not! Pro Tip: DO NOT go to school for longer than 6 months! Just don't! Take a course or two, then practice that and incorporate into your own 'stuff/life'. After a year off...then maybe take another couple courses. But a full "3 year degree"? You're wasting your money 9/10 times).

[@joshmercer8980]

Anyone watch youtube videos about miniature painting instead of acutally painting mini's?

[@Khether0001]

holy crap... 😨🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@NettylSpryngs]

FACTS

[@BaijoGosum]

Amazing! These three color theory videos have been the most useful content that I have ever watched. Thanks! I hope there will be more videos along these lines in the future

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Thanks a million buddy! Oh yeah, this is just the foundation 😅 from here I plan to use this theory to solve mixing problems and difficult recipes like skin tones!

[@BaijoGosum]

MarcoFrisoniNJM amazing, can’t wait!

[@mrlynx_minis]

this video is totally mindblowing for a beginner painter as myself. great job and incredibly useful

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Thanks a million man 😍!!! The theory seems super complicated but when you start playing with paints everything becomes really easy 😉😉😉

[@trotzdem111]

Marco, you are an amazing youtuber and your videos are really valuable! I learned a lot about colour theory watching this series of yous so thank you!

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😍 Thanks a million man, really from the heart!

[@El-Rico]

Great vid, very informative. The color orange comes from the fruit: orange, from the French word for that fruit, from the Italian, from the Arabic, from the Persian, from Sanskrit, from Dravidian root form which referred to the bitter orange.

[@Sarkhamy]

What kimera paint would you use for cyan?

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Phthalo Blue Green shade!

[@mauricioabastoflorfranco9201]

Hello Marco, here I don't have much choice than stick to Citadel and maybe Vallejo. Wich colours from those brands would be the closest to CMYK?

[@joebringas4807]

Great video Marco. Gonna be super helpful moving forward.

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😍😊😍

[@ArkhanTheBlack]

Amazing video!!

[@seanzor21]

It's amazing that I work in commercial printing and not until today did I consider that I should be using CMYK as my main reference for miniature painting instead of RGB and it makes heaps of sense. Art school and years of work in the field didn't put the pieces together like you did. Well explained and straightforward. Between this and your oil painting videos it's changing the game for me completely.

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😍😍😍

[@ThomasGallinari]

Why isn't this the first thing we learn before painting minis?? Great video!

[@marksminis]

Excellent! But now I feel dumb when I look at my collection of paints! And now I know why I run into trouble trying to mix some of those. Better to stick with CMYK for mixing I see...

[@enzobambino]

Mind Blown! I love it!

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😍😁😍😁😍

[@matthijsdekker8552]

this is so eye-opening!

[@snoox27]

Great stuff

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😘😘😘

[@jessefurqueron5555]

2 interesting books on color, both by same author. Both are titled “Blue & Yellow Don’t Make Green” by Michael Wilcox. The 1st edition was released in late ‘80s and is a little over 100pgs. I’ve had our copy of this for years, uh make that multiple decades 🤙. The 1st edition is pretty easy to find. The 2nd edition is much larger page count and was released around 2002 or so. This 2nd edition can be much harder to find. He has a third book, which I think would be interesting to look through, it is generally a bit $$$ in good condition. It’s a color swatch book w something over 2000 2-color mixes. I’ve never seen a copy, so can’t speak first hand to it. As always, YMMV. Just sharing. Nothing more. Nothing less. Cheers!

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

🤩 I'll check them immediately!!!

[@ofershamrock2571]

Thank you very much for the fantastic lesson. what the purpose of the dots in the color wheel ?.

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Thanks! The dots simply marks classic academic/commercial colora, so you can buy a specific tube and know precisely where its tone is in the wheel 😊

[@oscarmike5183]

Dang I should have watched this waaaaay sooner. The mind blowing sounds I think are coming out of my head instead of Marco! Thanks Marco.

[@MentoliptusBanko]

cyan == sayan :D :D :D si vede che sei italiano e che se cresciuto guardando dragon ball :D

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Hahaha non ho potuto resistere 😂 Penso a Dragonball ogni singola volta che dico cyan 😂😂😂

[@MentoliptusBanko]

@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Mi hai contagiato! Adesso lo penso anch'io :D :D :D

[@Gulaschiltis]

I am watching miniature painting channels for quite a while now and I so to say just discovered yours (few months ago), but you are already my favourite creator. I have learned so much useful stuff, I am so thankful! Sadly, I cannot support you with money, yet. But you damn sure deserve everything you get!!!! Thank you so very much and keep up the good work!

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Thank you sooooooo much 😍!!! Don't worry at all, watching the videos/sharing/a like or a comment are always the best kind of support 😉 This is really appreciated 😊

[@jocruzf]

I can say the same. Man ive been painting for a year si ce Covid started... Im learning just by videos and yours are my fav by far. Please dont stop xd. Cheers from Chile.

[@stewste4316]

Good video

[@sergei5879]

WHAT?!? What you mean by "its not after ultramarines name"?!??! God Emperor sacrificed himself, and you saying that!?

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 but the marines are definitely named after the color!!! It's still something 😂😂😂

[@antoniomaraziti4606]

@@MarcoFrisoniNJM This is heresy! Expect to see a black ship moored near your home soon... :D

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

@@antoniomaraziti4606 😂😂😂 but as an Ork fan I can agree that red makes you faster 😁

[@dwarfanage9379]

This has me so pumped for my kimera paints to come in!!

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😁😍😁😍😊

[@lardidar-lewismoorby2702]

So if I went into an art store to buy some artist grade true color wheel acrylic for wargame miniature painting is it as simple as picking them up by the names you use here? Asking as a GW, Vallejo person who honestly has no clue and usually goes off the name, I'd much rather have a pot of cyan sat on my desk rather than a pot of 'magic blue'

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Correct! I used the proper, true, universal names of the colors so you can enter every art store of the world and get exactly what you need form every possible brand or kind of medium (acrylics, oils, watercolor, gouache...) 😉

[@filipkovacec5759]

Great video Marco :) love your channel

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😁😊😁

[@azbarbarian1602]

Does anyone have a link that works for the real color wheel?

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

I've updated the link now!

[@chrislee7704]

*mindblownemoji*

[@alvarogalanmadrid9244]

Great as always! I’ve been after the Kimera set for mixing my own paints an learn properly but whenever I have the cash they’re out of stock and when they restock I’m always out of cash (the sets last 24h-ish on their website!) Once I get myself a nice set of paints I’ll start mixing and experimenting.

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Hahahaha I'm sorry for such a bad timing 😂!!! Obviously you can start doing these experiments with every kind of paint, Kimera are better and easier for this purpose, but you can mix everything with everything else!

[@alvarogalanmadrid9244]

MarcoFrisoniNJM trust me, when I try I create the muddiest ugliest muted colours ever 🙈 I blame it on the paints because they don’t get offended 😂

[@briarstingwrf7284]

I have the same problem. Money, no stock/stock, no money 🤦‍♂️

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

@@briarstingwrf7284 😂😂😂 This is the worse kind of torture I can imagine!!! 😂😂😂

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

@@alvarogalanmadrid9244 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂LOL😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@depapa701]

That's why I like the german company schmincke (for canvas painting) They call their magenta and cyan primary magenta and primary cyan. So you can't get it wrong. 😁👍🏼 Super Video as always. 😁

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Totally totally agree!!! I have a bunch of Liquitex and Golden heavy body acrylics and it's awesome to use their real names having always a perfect match!!!

[@ThomasGallinari]

@@MarcoFrisoniNJM how do you work with Liquitex Heavy? I've read everywhere it is very thick and not convenient for miniatures

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

@@ThomasGallinari They are really great on miniatures. Being thick you can use them in every possible form, from thick paste for extreme highlights or dilute them to a glaze

[@ThomasGallinari]

@@MarcoFrisoniNJM do you dilute it with their medium or just water? I've read the paint has a shiny finish, what do you think?

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

@@ThomasGallinari simple water; they are very stable and don't need any particular product or care. For the most part they tend to be a little satin but with a drop of Matt medium or matt varnish inside you can obtain a perfect matt finish

[@therealquade]

Hi, I have a question that requires a bit of an introduction. I am getting into airbrushing miniatures and am planing on using CMYK as my primary color source, but don't know what specific paint to use. to be more specific, I'd be starting from a zenithal lighting effect for the undercoat, take a picture and put it into an image editor, and add some color layers for the primary (non-detail) colors on the figure as transparent layers, to get what pure color paints I want to mix, Convert that RGB value to CMYK Opacity values, meaning 0-100 opacity of each, cyan, magenta, yellow, and black/key (all transparent), and then go dropwise for each color, 1 drop per percent opacity, plus the rest of the drops as medium to total 100. 20 drops is 1 ml, means 5ml per value, 4 values of CMYK means 20ml paint every time that should, I hope, be that exact color. mix each color I picked, then just use some sort of paint-on mask and do however many coats for each part to get them to the correct saturation. (and then do details with probably pre-mixed acrylics because otherwise that's a LOT of paint) So that leads to my real question. For that type of set up, what paint should I be working with exactly. the closest I have found (and not bought yet because of it's reputation) is createx, which allegedly, is terrible for miniatures painting. additionally all my experience getting art supplies in general, had been going to pat catans, and if I didn't know what something was there was someone there who knew and could help. Now pat catans is gone, and I neither have a source for supplies, nor anyone to really ask for advice and finding out things I didn't realize where important. all I have now is game stores that are like "oh, you need paint, citadel stuff is right there." and that's not particularly helpful at all, because good miniature painting is like a competition to them, and you don't help the competition.

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Hi! I love the scientific approach you are planning 😁 For what you have in mind I would suggest the high flow range by Golden acrylics (I recently made a video review about them), acrylic inks or even better a combination of the two; they are both high quality, artist grade paints, highly pigmented and saturated, slightly transparent and perfect to be used in the airbrush directly from the pots!

[@Coffeedav]

🤯👍🏽

[@MrTrilbe]

apparently the colour is named after the fruit, before the English knew of the fruit the colour was known as "geoluread" yellowy-red

[@MaidenicaMetalliden]

Hey @MarcoFrisoniNJM Quick question. What pigments do you suggest for yellow? For Magenta you suggested: Permanent Magenta Quinacridone Red Rose Lake Permanent Rose Alizarin Crimson For Cyan you suggested: Cerulean Blue Manganese Blue But you didnt suggest good pigments for yellow?

[@mylor1066]

Awesome. I have learnt so much. Thankyou. Gratzi?

[@Squeaksquatch]

I'm still struggling to understand how to use the RCW to create shade colours :(

[@secxybear6629]

I still don't get it. How can the same color have 3 different 'complimentary colors' depending on which color wheel you're using? Isn't it still the same color? Please help.

[@jocruzf]

Csn beleave this set of 3 vids are mind breakers. Hey bro one question because I want ti practice what you say. For vallejo, ak, citadel what color it is cyan and magenta? Thanks and very very nice set of vids. Thanks for sharing!!!

[@chrisschrum9931]

I’m not certain what I’m missing. Around 5:20 you say we can’t mix yellow and blue paint to make green but that seems to work for me. I’m very new to color theory so what am I not understanding?

[@balkoth81]

Marco, I've seen some Imperial Fists videos where they base coat the model pink. The value sketch goes on top of that, then they come in with the yellow. The pink and the yellow make nice orange shades, while the value sketch yields a nice pure yellow. I'm painting Salamanders so I'm trying to figure out what a good base coat would be to give me a similar effect as the pink does for the yellow. Is an orange base coat -> value sketch -> green the process that I should experiment with?

[@housecaldwell]

Owwwww, my head. I'm going to have to watch this again. And then retrain myself from 30 years of painting miniatures without understanding color theory. Bonus -- now so many of the things I found hard totally make sense.

[@YoutubeEnthusiast1000]

why do so many companies suggest Phthalo Blue as a primary?

[@slimjim7411]

Never really understood mixing colors I just bought 100's of pre-mixed colors. This helped explain a lot.

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

I'll start a new series all about mixing very very soon 😉😁😉

[@SeerIbarelyknowher]

I UNDERSTOOD THIS!! HOLY SHIT I UNDERSTAND IT NOW WOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!! 🤯🥳😃

[@edricivan]

Hi Marco! Which one of the Kimera paints would you say is closest to Cyan?

[@jonathannmccormick2023]

Not to disparage your other series, I love them all, but Color Theory is by far my favorite! Can't wait for the next one, my brain wants more!!!

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Thanks a million buddy 😉😉😉! I was a bit reluctant at the beginning because this is a strange kind of content; it's the foundation of any kind of painting but it can be really complex and not really what miniature painters usually look for on KZbin. But I want to give you quality stuff and now I'm even more motivated seeing the response to these videos!!!

[@jonathannmccormick2023]

@@MarcoFrisoniNJM I think you'll find this vid will have some surprising staying power. People who may have skipped over this one, will return to it once they see it in practice in your future vids. Glad you overcame your doubts, we all benefit from it now!

[@itsarchie1261]

@@jonathannmccormick2023 I was one of those people. Had skimmed past them before when looking at Marco's channel for more painting videos, but after binging those I realised I was probably missing something awesome. I was!

[@briarstingwrf7284]

Awesome video, as usual. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge. Started a little journal to take notes lol.

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Thanks a million 😍! Great idea! This stuff comes all from my notebook where I collected every bit of useful information I could find over the years; after a while you'll have a new copy of the same notebook 😉😉😉

[@adamdean5551]

You are an amazing artist marco I love everything that i've learned from you

[@rainbowfox1934]

An interesting idea that the color theory of light and the color theory of objects complete each other. Smart insight.

[@cicciopiu]

Conosco già la teoria del colore, me l'hanno insegnata alle medie (incredibile eh? :D ) però il video me lo sono guardato lo stesso perché ti voglio bene! :) E perché volevo vedere se nominavi il Blu di Manganese! Sempre super competente ;) Grande Marcuzzo!

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😂😁😂😁 Grazie mille 😉😉😉!

[@stingray4567]

This was a genuine mind blower! Im no pro artist but I did art to A-level + have known full well for years that printers use cyan/magenta/yellow inks. But I was never taught about primaries & it never occurred to me. Great stuff! One question though - why would the Kimera set have magenta and yellow but not have cyan??

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Thanks a million 😊😊😊 Super super super appreciated! Kimera set has a very good phtalo blue that's good approximation of a dark cyan but for this video I wanted to show the use of the classic triad 😊

[@Finkeldinken]

Yes! There is was! You did an absolutely brilliant job, so thank you! Newbie question that I thought of when you mentioned Alizarin crimson: When you as a pro painter choose your colours, how much, if any, attention do you put into lightfastness when you do display pieces? Is this even relevant at all in the mini world? I suspect that historically in mini painting it has not been a factor when choosing paints and pigments, but I have no idea!

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Thank you sooooo much 😘😘😘! Yeah it's definitely something new for us; we are starting using artistic paints only now and we are still learning about pigments, their properties and their changes through time. Miniature painters used to oil paints have usually a better knowledge and understanding of this!

[@Finkeldinken]

@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Sounds like miniature painting as a hobby is moving into a very interesting new phase in general with lots of new nerd potential! :D

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

@@Finkeldinken oh yes, totally! As miniature painters we have been confined in a corner by companies with the primary need of selling games and a fast, simple painting method and this defined our mindset for too many years. We are finally starting to think to miniature painting as a form of art and to make art you need the same knowledge of every other artist!!!

[@chickenbonelives]

I sat through a lecture on this subject at the exploratorum in san Francisco many years ago. This was a great refresher!

[@Jonas_Fox]

Dude. Color theory has been secretly lying to me this whole time. Even complementary colors and shade toning were way off. Why did I never connect additive color theory was the problem with all my muddy color mixing. We need MOAR videos on this MOAR!

[@SpookySharp]

Your videos are concise, informative and contain great editing. As an extra comment, I have to say that your English vocabulary is undoubtably double that of the high school students that I teach. Keep up the good work dude, you are killing it! Liked and subscribed!

[@TinyDiodes]

You weren't lying, my mind is all over the room.

[@acerebralstringmorn]

This was super useful! Now to start experimenting :)

[@bastiaanceuppens5364]

your videos are always a treat. This information is extremely valuable and well explained. I love your accent as well. I will rewatch this one a couple of times to let it sink in.

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Thank you soooo much!!! For everything 😊😁😊 Don't worry, the theory in words is complicated but on the palette everything becomes easier 😉

[@MrNayiro]

Fantastic video! thank you for giving back to the community. I have access to Vallejo paints. Which paints mentioned in the video are Vallejo? Or if they are not mentioned, which Vallejo paints can you recommend to buy for Cyan, magenta, and yellow? Thank you!

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Thanks a million!!! It's really a pleasure to share 😉😁😊. I used the proper, universal, official names of the paints so you can enter in every art store of the world and find always exactly the same tones. That's the best way to match the colors with the brand you prefer or have at home 😉. Sadly model companies use their original names on a huge range of paints that for the most part are a blend of pigments so it's difficult to give a conversion without trying them all 😅

[@MrNayiro]

@@MarcoFrisoniNJM thank you for the quick reply! I was not aware you gave the universal names. I will look into those. I see that you used heavy body acrylics, are those ok to use for miniature painting?

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

@@MrNayiro It's a pleasure 😉😊! Oh yeah they are awesome for mini painting! They don't have a lot of covering power so it's better to use them for the advanced stages of painting, but for all the rest they are great paints

[@AlucardTheReturn]

Thank you, for all the mind blowing input about colortheory :)

[@alino61]

thnx ..another great vid .:}

[@joshmercer8980]

This is amazing! I need to watch this video several times to fully absorb it all xD

[@harkejuice]

Thank you this was informative!

[@Rizzen1]

Well explained! Very very awesome video!

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Thanks man!!!

[@KingKass2929]

You fuckin' rule, Marco.

[@tiozebraminis6725]

This video is amazing! I have a doubt, though, Marco. Neither Kimera Kolors blue is a Cyan, correct? Phtalo Blue (green shade) is darker than a true cyan. So how would I get a super saturated and bright green? Just mixing phtalo blue (green) with cold yellow? Cheers!!

[@FabioArm]

Mi hai aperto un mondo con questo video, capisco sempre il 30% di quello che dici ma mi è bastato per capire perchè quando mischio i colori ottenevo cose diverse dalla teoria dei colori quella dei libri.

[@kevinmcbride4006]

I attempted my first OSL mini (mini number 5) because of your previous vid, its still a work in progress but very much enjoying it, much appreciated!

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Nice!!! Keep me updated with some pictures 😁!!! Thanks a million to you 😉

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

@@kevinmcbride4006 I love art spam 😂😉😂😉!

[@PierSilver]

Ok, so this video of yours really messed me up. I come from a watercolor-very amateurish-background, and usually the problem we (watercolourists) have is that when mixing primaries (RYB) sometimes the result is not a a secondary as bright as we hoped, and the usual explaination is as such as you can see in this video (I already put the time stamp in the point of interest) -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3e4qJtpZsyHjtE TL;DWatch: all primaries are not "perfect/pure", their pigments "tend" to one of the two secondaries close to them (so for example a yellow is never just yellow, but always warm or cold). I've watched at least 100hrs of youtube videos on watercolors, and I've never seen anything as in-depth as your video. Is "muddiness" of mixes a problem of purity of pigments? (=more than one pigment) Or is it a theoretical problem? (=yellow + blu cannot be green because they are actually complementary, and not primaries) Keep in mind I'm not desperate, I can still live and mix my paints, but this is too freacking fascinating!

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Really really glad to help! The problem of "muddiness" comes from both the problems; often even basic tones are a mix of pigments instead of a pure source (especially in cheap brands and formulations) and this works together with the wrong theoretical choice of primaries! The first one is easy to solve checking the pigment composition on the tubes and the second one moving to the CMY system 😉

[@josephbickley8933]

Single pigment colors ARE available, every artists quality paint lists it’s pigments as a standard code. It is possible to mix pure tones with watercolor. Cyan, magenta and yellow are still primaries in watercolor. I paint minis mostly with watercolor

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

@@josephbickley8933 I know, and I have entire videos about that 😁 I was talking of hobby/miniature paints like GW

[@josephbickley8933]

MarcoFrisoniNJM I was responding to the op, sorry to not make that clear. A cool trick in color selection is to wor with colors that share the same pigments. I have seen a couple of videos on this.

[@anjajensen4947]

@@josephbickley8933 How do you use watercolor on minis? Do you use some kind of special primer? I'm all new in painting minis (actually, I'm still just getting ready to jump into it), but would love to use my watercolors on them, which I'm more familiar with mixing an layering.

[@ArynCrinn]

Any reason you wouldn't use a Phthalo Blue (Green Shade) for cyan? The Kimera "Phtalo" Blue (Green Shade), for example, contains only the PB15:4 pigment found in the Golden Primary Cyan (I've also seen if produced with PB15:3), without the added PW6/Titanium White that exists in the Golden tube.

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

It works well but in the experiments for the final shot Golden Cyan worked better to show the transition to Ultramarine blue. Also I wanted to show a wider range of possible paints keeping the video a bit more free from brands (even if love K. colours) 😊

[@8triagrammer]

This is the best painting how-to channel I've seen yet.

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😍😍😍 Thanks a million man!!!

[@PierSilver]

Ok hold up! Hold up! I planned on following the video guide of Painting Buddha here on YT to paint a nice Stormcast using non metal metallic technique. This would require me to buy a total of 7 colours (surprisingly not many, when compared to the average GW tutorial), almost all by Vallejo. Should I dismiss my plan, and instead proceed to create those colours mixing them myself, using a Kimera kit (or similar)?

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Oh yeah totally! Mixing your own tones is always a valid and more interesting option. Obviously it's easier to make and follow tutorials with a set of colours straight from the bottle but when you understood how and why they are used in that specific way, mixing is very easy and satisfying 😊

[@plume78]

Hey Marco, what would be the citadel color equivalent of Magenta and Cyan (and Yellow)? Apologies, but those are the colors I have...

[@plume78]

After some research on the web I actually found this (from someone who contacted Vallejo) Equivalent for the Vallejo model color line: C: Sky blue (961) or Deep sky blue (844) M: Magenta (945) Y: Flat Yellow (953) Equivalent for GW Citadel color: C: Lothern Blue or Teclis Blue M: Screamer Pink Y: Flash Gitz Yellow Hope this helps! 😁

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

@@plume78 It's something to try! Sadly often these kind of hobby paints are a blend of pigments so their behaviour it's difficult to predict. Check your local art store, these are universal paints that you can find all over the world 😉

[@philgee486]

Ok so 2 weeks ago blew £70 on acrylic inks to learn to mix and use, whilst totally avoiding the ones I needed to choose to be able to mix vibrant saturated colours.... I have a bunch of pretty colours that can be used straight from the bottle and basically 136 combinations to make muddy browns???? Why has no colour theory vid I've watched before even squeezed this understanding into my brain? Even I grasped it when I saw it play out on the palette.... You're doing great work at my house Marco

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😁😁😁😁😁

[@leighaedmonson6980]

Can you teach us then? Because yes!

[@DevsDice]

Haha awesome video! You are an inspiration for a fellow minipainter! Love your comment regarding Ultramarine Blue - it had to be said! :D Stay golden Marco!

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😂😂😂 the Utramarine thing is so annoying, but I have to admit a brilliant idea of marketing 😂. Thanks a million man, and from you it's even more appreciated 😉😉😉

[@DevsDice]

@@MarcoFrisoniNJM "from you it's even more appreciated 😉😉😉" Aww shucks making an old man blush! 😂😆

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

@@DevsDice 😘😘😘😉

[@wernerdenil2279]

My mind is officialy blown! Awesome vid! First thing I did after watching this video is watching it again ... And looking for the paint off course :)

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😁😍😁 Thanks a million man!!!

[@hl1796]

Macro, does Crimson Lake consider a Magenta ? the only oil paint available locally i got is Alizarin Crimson and Crimson Lake, and they look quite similar... just different in price

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

They are more in the red spectrum so they are probably not an optimal choice for a primary tone. If I really have to chose I prefer Alizarin crimson, great tone for everything related to human blood and vascularised areas!

[@Nocforweb3]

That.. just completely and utterly just blew my mind. I mean all three videos were awesome, but when you got to cymk I- Wow.. I need to sit down for a bit..

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😁😁😁😁😁

[@josechitty339]

Love your videos always end up talking to everyone for the rest of the day about colours hahaha thanks and keep up the great work. P.D. your Gollum face on the thumbnail of the video is quite scary hahaha

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😁😁😁 I love this flow of inspiration!!! 😂😂😂 When I took my picture it didn't seem so extreme but when I put it on Gollum it became instantly a super psycho face 😂😂😂

[@davidecamurani7389]

Marco at 10:30 Me: this... This is heresy! Btw, the 6yo me starting to paint his first Ultramarines minis thought it was perfectly logical that the glorious servants of the God Emperor had a colour named after them.

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😂😂😂

[@bobdow3847]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... ok so my mind is totally blown by this. So much so I’m going to have to watch this video again... wow... now I get...or maybe not....🤪... so definitely going to watch it again. Great video.... thanks Marco for actually making people get this 🙃.

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😂😂😂 Thanks! Yeah there's a lot of stuff in here! On the palette everything is much much simpler but I love the technical/scientific side and it's useful to solve difficult mixing situations like creating skin tones and their shades (something I want to explore in the next future 😉)

[@chuck-n-debtaylor7553]

Watched again; liked again 👍🏻

[@FreddyJoan]

Excellent video. Question: the list of cyan and magenta colors, are any of those Citadel Paints ? I ask because in my LGS they only sel Citadel Paints, so that's basically what I have at hand, and the names of them are not very descriptive... 'Ahriman Blue'... wthk? xD

[@philipwright3847]

PROTIP: f you have an empty bag of chips they have the cyan, magenta and yellow tones you need down by the barcode. take an empty bag in with you and try to compare what you need

[@BL_SR]

Questa serie di video è fatta davvero bene. Non solo è un'utilissima sintesi sull'argomento, ma allarga la prospettiva di un pittore dalla miniatura alla storia dell'arte mondiale! BRAVO!!! Una domanda: ART Fundamentals della 3D Total Publishing non è mai stato tradotto in italiano? Cromorama riesce ad essere esaustivo o consigli una doppia lettura? Grazie! ;)

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Grazie mille davvero davvero davvero di cuore!!! 😊

[@AdrianvanNunen]

Absolutely fantastic explanation, Marco! I didn't think I'd enjoy (or learn as much from) this series as I have your other "slapping paint on a model" vidoes - but I have. Bravo, amico! :)

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😁😁😁 Thanks a million buddy!!! Super super appreciated 😉 😘

[@aaronro455]

Can you reconmend equivalents for vallejo/scale75?

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

I used the proper universal,official names of the paint so you can match the tones with the brand you prefer or have at home 😉

[@MegaGameCore]

The CMY-color space is also not correct scientifically speaking. But i'm talking about spectral colors here (the "true" colors that the eye can process from the visible electromagnetic spectrum). So the "scientific" correct stuff is mostly irrelevant for this topic anyways :D

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Oh yep totally correct! Here obviously we have to simplify, summarise and focus all on paint because it's already a very complex topic. But my nerd side (99% of me) can talk forever about this stuff 😂

[@BarringtonDailey]

The eye cannot tell the difference between spectral yellow and a mix of of wavelengths. However, reductio ad-absurdem does not help anyone. Perhaps Macro could debate whether light is a wavelength or a photon? Netwonian Physics is not correct scientifically speaking, and yet it is taught in science class.

[@MegaGameCore]

@@BarringtonDailey I study computer science with a focus on computer graphics. It is correct that the eye can't tell the difference between spectral yellow and a mix of wavelengths. Yet there are still colors that you can not create by using a CYM-Color space because you'd have to use "negative light values." The whole "particle vs wave" behaviour of light is comepletly irrelevant for both art and graphic science tho. I really don't know what you are trying to say with your comment.

[@andresdavila4315]

Thank you for the info really nice to learn, but I have a question that maybe it is very common: is there an equivalent for cyan magenta and yellow on the citdel colors?

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Thanks a million to you! I don't use Citadel paints so I can't really give you a precise conversion. Plus Citadel paints don't have pure single pigments so mixing with them is always a game of guessing

[@osareafallire]

Marco? Blowing our minds? Is that like chocolate that tastes good? Only all the time.

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😂😂😂😂😂 Thanks a million buddy!

[@PierSilver]

UUUUGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH (the sound of my mind after this video blown it)

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dallathedark]

golden also has a primary magenta as well, in both heavy body and fluid line, considering picking them up myself

[@josephbickley8933]

Golden also has a primary cyan and primary yellow.

[@r__b6095]

Brilliant explanation.

[@nietzcheon4806]

well that changes everything , think i'm gonna have to watch daily can't thank you enough.

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

😁 thanks to you buddy!

[@pawelm7972]

Few years ago I tried to get to miniature painting. Very quickly I got to the uncrossable point of basecoat-shade-edge highlight and I gave up. Now I want to paint minis again. Thanx. Best video in the subject I have ever seen, but (as I've got no artistic background) it brings even more questions. You just shown us the way how to mix traditional colours. Any chance you could show us how do you mix non-traditional colours, like flesh tones or shade without black?

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

Awesome 😁!!! I can't tell you how happy I am hearing that the spark of inspiration came back thanks to the videos 😊 Check my video about sketching and mixing colours; it's the natural/empirical continuation of this one and it can answer some of your questions 😉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pojSm4iHqLuigc0

[@MarcoFrisoniNJM]

You'll have a lot of fun with this one!