Pope In Asia: The Complex Relationship of Catholicism in Timor-Leste and Indonesia | Insight

[@darwinqpenaflorida3797]

For Filipinos, Indonesia is our brother and a family because even we're different we loved each other together in different religions and ethnic groups and Papal Visit in Indonesia is very special because this is the first time to attend mass in Jakarta with Filipino Community in Indonesia 😊😊 Even it was nine years ago when Pope Francis visit the Philippines, this is remained unforgettable and Filipinos never forget Pope Francis 😊😊 For me, Indonesia was my favorite country and my dream visit since PBBM's State Visit to Indonesia in 2022 so with all my heart, I hope to see you in Indonesia next year and I will be waiting for you 😊😊 After Papal Visit, Indonesia and the Philippines are ready to celebrate 75 Years of Diplomatic Relations by November 24 😊😊 Trivia:The Relationship of Indonesia and Philippine Catholics is the University where the Catholic University of De La Salle Manado was founded by the collaboration of Manado Bishop and De La Salle University in Manila 😊😊 Greetings from Calamba City Laguna in the Philippines 🇵🇭💕🇮🇩

[@zhakimel]

FYI Filipino brother, Vatican is the FRST Europe state that acknowledge the Independence of Indonesia in 1947 (at that time Dutch is tightening it's grip by launching agression)

[@darwinqpenaflorida3797]

@@zhakimelYeah and in the Philippines has a diplomatic relations with the Vatican in 1951, two years after Philippine-Indonesia Relations formally established and the same year when Sukarno visited the Philippines 💕😊

[@End-w8f]

The Philippines is a much much better and sincere neighbor to Indonesia, compared to the backstabbing malicious Malaysia.

[@tba1453]

Philippines is the catholic version of Indonesia or vice versa Indonesia is the muslim version of Philippines

[@darwinqpenaflorida3797]

@@tba1453 Yes very analogy 😊😊

[@Poponyonyo]

All of my grandparents were born Javanese Muslim. They converted to Catholicism, mostly because they went to Catholic schools in the 1930s. Due to this reason, I was born into a Catholic family. Being a native Indonesian and Catholic makes me a minority in Indonesia. Papal visit in Indonesia means a lot for me because for the first time in my life, I see that people don’t perceive Catholicism merely as a minor religion in Indonesia, but also a religion whose leader embraces love, humility, and kindness.

[@AM-STM]

I was born Muslim , from an around Muslim family, and an age of 16. I wanted to convert to Catholicism but because of fear of bad things that will happen to me . I waited. I was baptized and confirmed at the age of 23 that was 39 years ago and I never looked back. I am glad and deeply honored to be Catholic thank God for that. I believe in our Lord Jesus Christ, who is the son of the living God for me Long live our Holy Catholic Church and our beloved Pope who is the vicar of Christ …. the Catholic Church is a major part of my life and at the age of 62 right now I am very happy person and when my time comes, I will be buried as Catholic and I will go to heaven, and I will meet our Lord Jesus Christ, and I always pray the rosary and ask the blessed mother the holy Virgin Mary to pray for me and I say this … Hail Mary full of grace. The Lord is with the blessed with thee.blessed are thou among us women and blessed is a fruit of thy womb Jesus. holy Mary mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death . Amen

[@RedRiverMan]

praise God for you sibling in Christ!

[@user-lr6hw4dq4t]

Well done mate !! May God alleays be with u

[@afiqramadhan1128]

As a muslim i respect your choice but still we’re praying to god to give you his guidance to return to the right path 🙏

[@jadetiger88888]

You made the right decision and Indonesia is tolerant of people who change religions

[@Anna-_-3032]

wonderful choice ✝

[@roamaroundgisg7362]

The Media can skew statements: Pope Francis did Not approve nor support same-sex couples. But, to give blessing to a person who needs it even though he or she is part of LGBTQ. Pope Francis made it clear in his interview in an American Broadcast network. The Church Cannot Bless same sex union. It cannot be. - Pope Francis

[@whatthefitt]

Exactly. The Vatican and The Pope actually released an official document online that says they cannot bless same sex unions/marriages. People are so gullible and lazy to do proper research these days.

[@jonnersibatuara1358]

Yes, you are definitely right.

[@TukangLanglangBuana]

LGBT,. hanya punya Anak dari hewan peliharaan 😂😂😂

[@accordiongordon]

@@TukangLanglangBuanak homophobe

[@ProximaCentauri88]

Sou filipino e sempre acho que os timorenses sao meus irmaos. Um grande abraco desde Filipinas. Viva Timor Leste! Viva Cristo Rei!

[@KeiLefranta]

Siapa ya Bpk ini yg mengatakan Bp Paus mndukung LGBT?Bapa Paus merima kaum LGBT sebagai manusia/person.Bkn menerima perilaku menyimpangnya.Tlg klo mmbuat konklusi, hrs memaknai scara bnar hal tsb.Jgn hya mmbuat kesimpulan brdasarkan apa yg ingin dipercaya 🙏🙏 tlg dipelajari lagi pernyataan2 Bp Paus

[@demandmarly8588]

gw sdikit shock dengan statement nya mencla mencle 28:00 It’s just sad to see him talking about improving things for the majority while imposing laws on the minority to implement religious laws in national legislation. 29:10 It’s not about things escalating; see how he before just openly escalating their own greedy to make national laws to be same with majority? 32:32 National unity and identity-what about the majority? They’re banning things that affect the minority, it even causes them trouble. 33:06 What a great future this is shaping up to be. 37:02 Yes, tolerance is good; peace is important. 37:40 It’s shocking. He talks about tolerance, yet he’s discriminating against others? 45:30 Isn’t living in coexistence in peace better than pushing Sharia law because of some outdated laws? just take it they didn't want openly accept minority.

[@dibo458]

Yang bener 🤨

[@ugakakine247]

Pengikut iblis nabi palsu ga usah dipedulikan

[@apaaja9983]

​@@dibo458iya bener,, siapa yg mengajarkan ustadz untuk cabul? siapa yg mengajarkan laki² boleh sembarang poligami?

[@rosaliayericaambarita7583]

Bener. Penasaran bapak itu siapa. Lagi enjoy nonton, langsung bete banget pas tau salah satu yang di wawancara nya kurang baca. At least baca dulu gitu lhoo pak baru ngomong 😌😌 Padahal in actual pesan pope selalu damai banget even semua pesan yang disampaikan di Indonesia. Yakin deh bapak tsb punya pemikiran kalo bapak Paus dukung LGBTQ pasti udh menyebar kemana mana. Udh nyebar, salah pula 😭😭

[@jaxs1121]

Love and greetings from the 🇵🇭 Philippines!

[@thesmallchocolateguy9331]

The pope did not approve homosexuality but he said to bless all sinners but not couples. The Church can’t bless sin but blesses sinners to have grace needed to break free from such sins. May God forgive us all through Jesus Christ our Lord and savior

[@elprincep582]

We Filipinos support you Timor Leste.

[@darwinqpenaflorida3797]

@@elprincep582 And Indonesia too my friend because we are family 😊😊 Oh yeah the Philippines is supported by Timor Leste too but that never forgot Indonesia because they are friends 😊😊

[@elprincep582]

@@darwinqpenaflorida3797 i'd rather support more of my Christian brothers my friend. Indonesians are good but never underestimate the Timorese amigos.

[@darwinqpenaflorida3797]

@@elprincep582 Yeah these two are friend of the Philippines ☺️ By the way, there are some Indonesian and Timorese in Manila, mostly students and professional work including in aviation ☺️☺️

[@ornachia2489]

@@elprincep582Just go there and help them then, stop yapping!

[@green_nevada_rendi6673]

It was East Timor that wanted to join Indonesia when they were in civil war, but after the civil war ended they wanted to separate from Indonesia (they joined only to protect themselves from their own brothers. 😂)

[@Idnsscom]

Singapore under PAP is the one that always rejecting Timor Leste's membership into the ASEAN, perhaps CNA should also cover that...

[@themindsojourner]

Consensus will be made if the applicant is ready. Do not blame sg.

[@jagodiving]

​​@@themindsojournerits the truth singopura is the last country in ASEAN which refused timor leste joint this group its good if CNA proprose thia issue in to government of singapore

[@csking6377]

What is the reason for Singapore to reject Timor Leste as part of ASEAN ?

[@abcddef2112]

@@csking6377economic reasons apparently too poor for asean according to singapore.

[@Idnsscom]

@@csking6377 PAP of Singapore are blaming the poverty, but the real reason is if Timor join ASEAN, then Timor can do import/export to ASEAN countries and PR China without tariffs, the Timor passport can enter ASEAN countries with 1 month free visa.

[@kilanspeaks]

Thank you, CNA Insider, for shedding light on the complex situation we face in Indonesia regarding religious freedom. We take pride in our national motto, *Unity in Diversity* but we must also acknowledge our shortcomings if we want to achieve true harmony. Fortunately, even though Islam is the overwhelming majority in Indonesia, with nearly 90% of the population adhering to the faith, groups like Majelis Mujahidin-who push for sharia law to dominate every aspect of life and seek to suppress non-Muslims-are not popular (at least for now). In fact, people from all faiths-Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, and others-celebrated the recent visit of Pope Francis. One critique: when you say “Timorese,” you’re only referring to East Timorese, but there’s also West Timor, which is part of the Indonesian province of Nusa Tenggara Timur (NTT). While West Timor itself isn’t a Catholic-majority region (Protestantism is just as present), NTT as a whole is, with Catholicism deeply rooted in the region’s history since the 17th century. Catholicism remains a major part of life in NTT, and its residents are proud Indonesians-the province is even the birthplace of *Pancasila* which is Indonesia’s guiding philosophy. So next time, please specify which “Timorese” you’re referring to. East and West Timorese might share common ground, but they’re also quite different in many ways.

[@narumondanauli2845]

West Timor is not 100% Catholic. Only regencies of Belu, Malaka and Timor Tengah Utara are Catholic-majority. The rest, including Kupang City (capital of NTT Province), is Protestant-majority.

[@kilanspeaks]

@@narumondanauli2845 Point taken, my original wording made it sound like West Timor itself had a Catholic majority, when I meant Nusa Tenggara Timur to have the Catholic majority. I will change the wording of my comment. Thank you for your correction

[@intriguingfacts5434]

Sharia law is positive...it ensures a civilized society. It is now interpreted as "hukum positif" in Indonesia. Without it....Indonesian society will be infested by alcoholism, woke-ism and many other bad excesses of western liberalism. Indonesia is perfectly balanced, modest and tolerant without being too westernized

[@demandmarly8588]

it just wow to see Mujahidin in this video 28:00 It’s just sad to see him talking about improving things for the majority while imposing laws on the minority to implement religious laws in national legislation. 29:10 It’s not about things escalating; see how he before just openly escalating their own greedy to make national laws to be same with majority? 32:32 National unity and identity-what about the majority? They’re banning things that affect the minority, it even causes them trouble. 33:06 What a great future this is shaping up to be. 37:02 Yes, tolerance is good; peace is important. 37:40 It’s shocking. He talks about tolerance, yet he’s discriminating against others? 45:30 Isn’t living in coexistence in peace better than pushing Sharia law because of some outdated laws? just take it they didn't want openly accept minority.

[@intriguingfacts5434]

@@demandmarly8588 Sharia law is a positive force in Indonesia and already implemented as "positive law" since long ago to prevent alcoholism, prostitution and other excesses of western liberalism. This has also benefitted minorities, as christians in Indonesia are unique, they don't drink excessively and don't openly engage in free sex like in the west.

[@reviewdarijepang318]

Always enjoyed watching CNA while eating dinner here from Japan ❤ 😊

[@suskagusip1036]

Timor Leste and Indonesia is close to our hearts in the Philippines. It's been in our history especially in Panay island that majority of our ancestors grew up from the South. We still celebrate their migration to the north we call "The Barter/Purchase of Panay. " Dinagyang Festival and Ati atihan the festivals celebrating it. I'm glad that Timor Leste is now free and emerging member of the ASEAN countries. ❤

[@ProximaCentauri88]

@@suskagusip1036 Penegsesebe me te? Meepesek leng telege yeng Denegyeng? Tengkel se Berter ef Peney, metegel ne peng senebe neng mge lehetemeng hesteriens ne peke ete, ne ete ey kwenteng gewe-gewe leng neng lekel ne hesterien se Peney.

[@Edgar_Ramirez471]

Only timor is brother to Philippines indonesia is not included

[@ElsadaCosta-i4t]

Terberkatilah Bapak prof.Imam besar di Mesjid Istiqlal,maaf jika lupa,Persaudaraan ini anggaplah sbg seorang Ayah,kita memang berbeda ttp kita satu tujuan kepd yg KUASA.Perbedaan Kepercayaan adalah kekayaan budaya milik dunia. Salam Damai....🕊️🙏🕊️🙏🕊️❤🕊️❤️

[@philominachmarakchambugong2167]

God bless you all I love Timorenses

[@panoramajakarta69]

Mujahid Leader Muhammad Sobarin Syakur, Where Do You Get Information Pope Francis Supports LGBT? Don't Deviate When You Speak!!!!

[@Arysantos88]

Timor leste 99.9 % population catholic ❤❤❤❤ love Papa🎉

[@UnderAttack-x1s]

I have found this Papal visit to be quite interesting and I am studying Indonesian and have interest in this entire region. I just learned about Timor-Leste and all the struggles it has had, and I hope the Pope's visit will help the country.

[@bungaliairmina8928]

By the time of Timor East people struggled for becoming independence, I was kind of giving my supporting within my deepest heart as I watched how hard they had to overcome by the time. I read or watched the news about leaders Xanana Gusmao, Jose Ramos Horta, Bishop Bello n many others as well who had their braved heart n hope to gain independence. I love Timor Leste people ❤ N so proud of Timor Leste stand as an independent nation especially during the Pope Francis apostolic visit in which I watched Timor Leste more closely. My ❤️ is with my brothers n sisters in Timor Leste , as I remembered I met a priest from Timor Leste n he said that we should have become one country, Timor Leste as he knew that I come from Flores His statement made me smile in silence . There's always connection between people of Timor Leste n Indonesia especially people who live in west part of Timor island ❤ God bless Timor Leste ❤ During the papal visit, I realized that I have one beloved neighbor country Timor Leste ❤❤ Love Timor Leste ❤

[@samueltitus20]

I enjoyed watching this, because it's true. I learned the history of Timor Leste from history subjects when I was still in middle school. Every middle school student knows this tragic story and our teachers teach us to always maintain unity and respect our brothers and sisters in Indonesia, even though we are of different ethnicities, religions and races. It's really sad to see our brothers suffering in that era. Hopefully Indonesia will be better in the future. Moreover, Indonesian democracy is currently in quite an emergency situation. May we all be protected by God. Thank you CNA for bringing this up

[@marekdeboer7977]

Races?

[@Kalle01]

It's just propaganda, im living at West Timor and we know well this region are better when they are with Indonesia.

[@samueltitus20]

@@marekdeboer7977 Yes, brother Indonesia is not country based on one race. There is two big native races in Indonesia: Austronesian and Melanesian. I'm the one example of it. I'm half melanesian from my mother family in Papua Island (Jayapura City) which is Catholic. And, half Austronesian (Sundanese Ethnicity in West Java) mixed with Chinese blood from my father family in Jakarta which is Muslim family. Moreover, I'm also muslim following my father religions. So, my parent family is the only muslim in my big family from my mother in Papua. However, I also came when My Catholic Big Family celebrates Christmas. My big Catholic Family also came when my parent family celebrates eid mubarak. I mean, this is only little example of how complex our diversity is in Indonesia. There is millions family in Indonesia from all over the country that have the same situations. I believe that several Singaporean also have the same situation of complex diversity as well. And, personally, I don't like the word of majority and minority race, religion, or ethnicity. 'Cause it could disintegrates us as Indonesian Community. Also, I'm very happy when hearing that my sister convert her religion to Catholic this year because of her own choice. I wish for her happiness I wish that God always keep our unity in my country.

[@samueltitus20]

@@Kalle01 Some of it maybe propaganda. Because on that era, indeed, there is a lot of several tragic event in the country such as, Civil war between Dayak tribe and Maduran, Anti Chinese sentiment, timor leste tragic even, also civil war between muslim and christian in Maluku Islands. So yeah, this is all our history. And, What makes me love to this country is the government is not covering this up, they want the children of Indonesia learn something from that tragic event through history subject in school

[@abcddef2112]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@marekdeboer7977Indonesia have many racial groups, austronesian, austroasiatic, melanesian and all the mixes between them, and what about foreign descent like dutch, chinese, arabs. Blame colonial educations for that, still often being used in these regions. Sometimes officially like in Malaysia and Singapore.

[@dyon7630]

Viva il Papa♥️God bless Indonesia and the world

[@akuns4y4]

INDONESIA GET LUCKY... AND SO BLESSED

[@havefaithlikeachildk3300]

Wow. The Holy Spirit is at work at Asia and Africa. Praise be to the God of Humility. 🥹🙏🏻💐

[@MakdumIbrohim-ek4jb]

Masalalu memang kejam, tapi harapan akan selalu ada dimasa mendatang. Apapun agama kita tetap jalani dengan tenang.

[@anaktimortimor2097]

Tahun 1989 bapa paus Yohanes Paulus II ke Timor timur akhirnya bs jd sebuah negara & sy yakin dgn kunjungan bapa paus fransiskus kali maka perekomian TIMLES akan berkembang GBU TIMLES saudaraku dlm iman😍😍😍

[@ekananda9591]

As Indonesian, I'm sorry for what happens in the past

[@SunyManty]

they are traitor and paranoid. no sorry.

[@HollowName6115]

Yg minta maaf itu ORBA dan PBB (UN) Yg memerintahkan TIM-TIM masuk ke Indonesia setelah Portugis cabut dn terjadi kerusakan dn kerusuhan di Tim-tim.

[@ПобедавРоссии]

If you properly take a look at your fabricated history, Indonesia only owned Java island. But luckily, Soekarno with his deception skill successfully 'invite' Sumatra, Borneo, Slawesi, West Papua and Bali

[@aidenwillim6595]

@@ПобедавРоссии White nazi cursader

[@DiniKusuma]

@@ПобедавРоссии yeah right ... because Mohammad Hatta - the first Vice President - and the entire non Javanese were basically just a bunch of idiots who could easily be tricked by one single person, named Sukarno ... right ?? - this is what I get from your statement

[@RizqiArifuddin]

Yes, Indonesia is not a perfect country. There are still cases of inter religious tolerance happening here and there. But the Majelis Mujahidin mentioned in this report is not a major organization (yet?). It's the first time I am hearing it as well. NU and Muhammadiyah which are the two largest Muslim organizations which play influential roles to the government respect religious diversity of the country.

[@apaaja9983]

karena manusia nya banyak yang munafik

[@DoutelRomanChannel]

In Timor Leste 🇹🇱 We are Mayority Catholic Religion, we are very happy welcome pope Visit in Hera.

[@AM-STM]

@@DoutelRomanChannel I hope to visit Timor leste next year during my vacation

[@azizahnuzul]

Aku lahir, besar, dan memilih seorang muslim. Setuju dengan ide keterlibatan beragama. Damai untuk kita semua dan semoga korupsi dan segala hal buruk yang menyiksa rakyat segera diberantas 🙏🏻 Aamiin

[@blindo2202]

Ayo kita. Orang kita Orang Indonesia liburan ke Timor Leste 🎉🎉

[@sandraind6920]

Salam sejahtera buat semuanya. Kiranya Tuhan Jesus menyertai kalian2 semuanya amen🙏 Kiranya kalau Tuhan mengizinkan, kita bisa kontakan dengan kalian2 terutama yang ada di Timor Leste (Katolik/Kristen) Salam perkenalan. Nama saya Sandra dari Jerman. Ach iya, harapanku & doaku, Kehadiran papa Paus Fransiskus membawa berkat atas kedatangannya disana amen💪👌👍🌹❤💋💋😘

[@bethanyrose2023]

Praying for Timor Leste to keep the faith in our Lord Jesus. The Catholic Church is the true Church Jesus founded in Matthew 16. You are blessed to see Pope Francis, the successor of St Peter the Apostle. He is the 266th Pope and Peter is the first Pope. ❤

[@inejio8794]

May the Lord Jesus Christ, His Father, and the Holy Spirit of God shine truth unto our paths Amen

[@marekdeboer7977]

How

[@harrykuffal6516]

CNA has several facts wrong or not telling controversial history why and how Indonesia went into East Timor after Portugal left turmoil and chaos. What faction declare independent and who declare to join and seek help from Indonesia. Geographically, Timor Leste (East Timor) is in Nusa Tenggara Timur (NTT), one of Indonesian provinces that has catholic majority population. NTT consists of several big islands e.g. Flores, Sumba, Timor and smmaler islands e.g. Alor, Lembata, Rote, Sabu, Adonara, Solor, Ende, Komodo. All but small island of Alor are overwhemingly catholic/christian. So, East Timor (Eastern half of Timor island) is never minority in term of religion or ethnicity (same as their NTT brothers sisters). But yes before 1975 catholic was only about 10% and after becoming 27th province of Indonesia soaring to 90% just like it neighbour NTT.

[@DiniKusuma]

a true muslim wouldn't have insecurity of their faith - I'm muslim myself ... been studied in Catholic school since primary years ... have lots of lots non-muslim friends ... and we are so beautifully bonded together None in my mind ever think that my friends intend to change my faith ... only those who have insecurity and low degree of faith who send prejudice, hoax and ignorant message toward other faiths about Timor Leste ... people has to know that Fretilin - The Revolutionary Front for an Independent East Timor - was a lefty nasionalist political group ... and it was in Cold War when Communism and Liberalism were arm-wrestling Are people really that naive to think that Indonesia's invasion had nothing to do with the US ?? Don't get me wrong ... as Indonesian, I always love and support TimLes dearly ... just let the past be remembered as history - learn the lesson without pointing out one to another

[@happyfeet5229]

Say it Louderrrrr .. you speak for me too

[@Mixolixplosion]

You are really naive lol.. USA was afraid of Timor becoming a new Vietnam and Soeharto himself was hungry for territorial expansion.. Fretilin's spokesperson Ramos-Horta (a Catholic) was interviewed by Australian journalists before the invasion and he invited representatives of Indonesia to come and observe on the ground if Timor-Leste was communist (the interview is still available). But Soeharto was never interested in that and in fact he ordered a team to spread propaganda that Fretilin were killing all others who did not identify as a communist when the majority of the people in Timor did not even know what communist meant. Yes USA was feeling insecure but Soeharto also tried to capitalize on USA's insecurity. Yes all gears, rifles, ships, jets and planes were American made. Everybody knows that except young Indonesians who thought western powers were the reason Indonesia lost "its 27th province".. I wonder if the Indonesian government were the one who wrote the history books for students in Indonesia 😅

[@VirginMostPowerfull]

Read about how your prophet claimed God gave him the right to sleep with a 9 year old Aisha. Is this the example you follow? Would you allow your sister or daughter of 9 to get with a 50 year old so called prophet? Would you not think he was an imposter?

[@apaaja9983]

​@@Mixolixplosion semua sejarah yang dibuat di Indonesia adalah karangan Jawa,,, semua sejarah di Indonesia dibuat berdasarkan kemampuan suku Jawa,, bukan berdasarkan fakta sampai sampai orang yang suka mempekosa pun dianggap pahlawan

[@DiniKusuma]

@@Mixolixplosion When did I say Fretilin was communist ?? I said Fretilin was leftly nationalist or social nationalist - just like Sukarno ... knock², hello ?? Secondly ... Suharto didn't have intention whatsoever to control TimLes if it's not bc of US - Suharto just wanted to protect Indonesia's territory bc TimLes and NTT is only bordered by hills - and for that reason, obviously Indonesian military had to face the Fretilin army forces ... and I said FRETILIN not the Timorese - you have to see the difference between Timorese vs Fretilin - Timorese are common people, of course they knew nothing about politic, let alone Communism, Liberism, etc If it wasn't Indonesia who invaded TimLes ... US and AUS would be the ones who did that - and there's a big chance they would build military bases there. Exactly the same reason why Putin invaded Ukraine, which is to protect Rusia's territory from NATO building military bases in Ukraine ... Do you think Putin is hunger for territory too ?? just like how you accused Suharto ?? that's naive bro bc everybody knows it's called military strategy ... "before ure enemy attacks, you gotta attack first" What ?? ... do you think Fretilin (in the name of TimLes) were that strong that could be independent as a free nation if Suharto didn't invade ?? No way US would let TimLes go ... look at the Philippines for example, and see how US had built military bases there. Do you think TimLes could defend themself from war againts US - like Vietnam did ?? NO WAY ... TimLes would definitely be "destroyed" by US's military in a sec ... and the land would be fully controlled by US >>> this's what Suharto didn't want, so he invaded TimLes instead (after Australia sugested him too) You gotta see my friend, there's a reson why Indonesia is the only country in (Southeast Asia) archipelago that joined the non-aligned movement ... why ?? because Indonesia could stay neutral in Cold War, while other countries couldn't - and that's a threat for US Look at the main reason British formed FPDA with Australia, Malaysia and Singapore ... FPDA were originally formed to anticipate threat from Indonesia, which during the time, was under Sukarno's lead

[@jaxs1121]

We hear you Timor Leste! We are with you in prayers

[@janafreitas397]

Thank you ❤

[@raphaelpo2482]

Olha de Timor leste 🇹🇱 ...... " que Timor 🇹🇱 leste seja abençoado Por deus Jesus 🇹🇱🫶🏽 viva......viva glória 🫶🏽

[@Nilunam]

Pope Francis visit to my country Timor Leste is the huge blessing of a life time. I pray that Pope Francis remains steadfast in leading catholics all over the world towards God and that his detractors repent of their ill intents. Long live Pope Francis!

[@phigun2944]

Tragedy occurred when Timor Leste wanted to separate from Indonesia. Timor Leste hopes to become a developed country like Singapore. However, what happened was that Timor Leste became the poorest country in the world. Timor Leste's natural wealth is being squeezed by Australia

[@mahetanovita1080]

Paus membantu umat di dunia tdk pandang agama

[@muhsyarifchannel9183]

Sy setuju sama mama fernandez bahwa generasi muda msh suka tawuran sehingga stabilitas keamanan maupun ekonomi tdk ada

[@IRELANDEllen]

We should respectfully each others.God Bless for The Holy Father Pope Fransiskus🙏

[@jessjess5828]

The biggest Muslim in world like Indonesia indeed making world opening to c how good 💯😊 Indonesia is .....the best example for Muslims countries.ay God bless Indonesian people.

[@anthony.3614]

Hi from Australia. I believe Timor Leste is more Oceania than Southeast Asia.

[@blackkittyyt]

If Timor Leste is more Oceania, why they want to join ASEAN, which is a Southeast Asian organization. Australia go tell Timor Leste not to join ASEAN, they'll just be a burden, and if they go bankrupt, ASEAN will have to help them. Australia has it easy, they took Timor Leste's oil and ran away 🤣

[@ImWillyDS]

As Indonesian, we were taught in history class back in high school that Timor Timur independence is because of incompetence of Habibie, for he values freedom of choice instead of 'unification'. And our teacher denies if Indonesian government doing harsh treatment to Timor Timur (or Timor-Leste) History is written by whomever in charge, so don't trust Indonesian history lesson

[@DiniKusuma]

Really ?? by that logic from your comment, a true history is what we think is true

[@apaaja9983]

​@@DiniKusuma tanya aja Prabowo dan Luhut Panjaitan dia tau yang sebenarnya

[@NusaKenari-oj4kk]

Demikian juga, pemerintah Indonesia sudah melakukan ketidak Adilan & kekerasan kepada warga Papua & umat kristen. Hal ini Terlihat dari perusak gereja, pelarangan beribadah & berbagai intimidasi bagi umat non muslim. Yg dibiarkan oleh pemerintah & aparat penegak hukum diIndonesia

[@DiniKusuma]

@@NusaKenari-oj4kk kan karena ada Papua Merdeka (OPM) sama aja ... Aceh pun di bantai jaman Suharto, dgn GAM nya ... urusan bantai membantai kelompok separatis mah Suharto g liat agama ... jadi ga usah baper bawa² agama

[@NusaKenari-oj4kk]

@@DiniKusuma membantai warga Papua tujuannya, Menguasai, kekayaan alam Papua & daerah" mayoritas kristen untuk membiayai teroris2 dipulau Jawa

[@mitotv6376]

Very nice.. Greeting 🫰 from Timor 🇹🇱

[@范-g3d]

Why people differentiate Catholic and Christianity, Catholic is Christianity.

[@namier473]

Islamic conservatism appears to be growing in Indonesia, but that doesn't necessarily overshadow the strong presence of moderatism, which continues to be a significant force. Historically, moderatism and secularism have been foundational in Indonesia, and they remain influential. The recent coverage by CNA Insider, which referenced a questionable survey by Pew Research and featured a relatively obscure figure like Sobarin Syakur (no one have heard his name, even google), may have unintentionally exaggerated the perceived rise of Islamic conservatism. The inclusion of such unrecognized individuals and organizations could lead to a distorted understanding of the actual sociopolitical landscape, where the balance between conservatism and moderation is far more nuanced than what was portrayed.

[@samueltitus20]

Also, If i'm not mistaken. The era of President Suharto that force people to choose religion is his tactics to erase the communist radical group in Indonesia. So, indeed, this is the worst era of Indonesia where there is bunch of radical political and religious group, civil war between ethnicity, difficult access of education, difficult access of health facility, and massive poverty because the country is still young, and corruptive government. And, actually, for some of that problem is still happening in this country May God bless all of us

[@Dominus_Potatus]

Yeah... Indonesian must be assigned 1 out of 6 acknowledge religion or belief since they were born. Hence, moat of Indonesian only know that there are only 6 religions and belief until they browse the internet and realize by themselves that there are more than 6. The biggest annoyance is if you want to have inter-religion marriage. This might be the biggest reason why a lot of people try to find an SO with same religion or belief or at peast not so devout that SO could change their registered religion or belief.

[@DiniKusuma]

Jeezzz ... it was a COLD WAR era kiddo ... just stop talking nonsense about Human Right and freedom of choices in a era you don't even understand

[@vincentberg1069]

The real Truth does not need to prove and protect itself. The real Truth does not pretend to be "right". The real Truth is incompatible with arrogance, intolerance, hostilities and violence. There is no need to 'defend' your truth and faith, but essential to be faithful yourself and live accordingly. I am very happy that current Pope Francis' pilgrimage started from spreading such an important message. Faithfully your, bishop Vincent Berg.

[@eddiensw]

yup...may more good development and progression comes into Timor-Leste

[@anataciadosr.dosr.dasilva2303]

Timor-Leste is one of the poorest country in the world.

[@jwf1654]

Saya mendengar di kota Padang ada pencabutan izin bangunan gereja kristen karena bilangnya surat pencabutan keluar dari Menteri Keuangan, padahal pengurus gereja sudah membeli secara resmi tanah tsb. Apa memang benar berita ini ibu SMI Menteri Keuangan ?

[@DiniKusuma]

yg kmrn kalah pilpres knp nyasar² g jelas gini sih komen nya 😭

[@aderitogusmao8891]

Helo from Timor Leste !❤🇹🇱

[@sandraind6920]

Hallo2. Khususnya yang Katolik, Kristen/non Muslime. Saya berharapan kalian baik2 saja. Saya berharapan, kalian2 terberkati atas kedatangan dari papa Paus Fransiskus amen🙏 Saya mau bertanya kepada kalian2 khususnya yang ada diperdalaman.. Apakah disana ada/Internet nya cukup bagus/cukup kuat?? Kita bisa kontakan bagi yang mau kontakan kesaya. Maaf, tolong bagi yang Katolik, Kristen/non Muslime saja ya 🙏 Tolong tidak bagi Muslime ya. Thanks atas pengertian bagi Muslime ya. Salam sejahtera dari Jerman. Kiranya kalau Tuhan menghendaki, kita bisa bertemu amen🙏

[@marlenesabiooliva7667]

If not for the sacrifices of our forefathers, we will not experience the blessings of being a Catholic. Freedom is not free, it comes with a price. The cost of USD12 Million for East Timor, may be huge but in the end that will be nothing. The mere fact that Pope Francis visited this country is the biggest advertisement. One big investor will dwarf this USD12 Million. And the best thing that the fact that people will go deeper in their faith - as for me is priceless. God bless to all!

[@revolutionary-dj9wy]

the people of Timor Leste have Filipino faces as well as names and surnames

[@jovengatmaitan6279]

yes because they been colonized by portugal and Philippines by spain.....spain and portugal have so many similarities in culture,religion,even the people....

[@maryocecilyo3372]

Iberian names

[@Edgar_Ramirez471]

🇵🇭🤝🇹🇱

[@nickfernandos8860]

LGBT ga di dukung bapak yg pintar tapi Paus ga mau karena orientasi seksual seseorang yg berbeda manusia lain bisa dengan mudah menghakimi & mendiskriminasi org tsb bahkan hak² nya sebagai warga negara hilang karena sebagai sebuah negara harusnya melindungi seluruh warga negaranya tanpa terkecuali. LGBT bukan suatu kriminalitas jadi mereka bukan penjahat. Saya sendiri ga mendukung hal tsb tapis Aya ga mendukung jg perbuatan yg main hakim sendiri utk mereka yg orientasi seksual berbeda

[@yuktisharma7922]

I am from India. Please shoot a video on Indian marriages. We are living in the 21st century, but we still don't have freedom to choose our life partners. In this generation, our parents are forcing us to get married to a boy/girl whom they choose for us. This is the biggest problem for young people, and it is the real reason we are not ready for marriage.

[@user-jz4ge4fk6s]

Dear Yukti. You are smart and intelligent.All Parents looks for better future for thier children. Convince your parents that you need time to make a proper decision and maturity as you will be spending life with your to be husband and the views should match for long lasting relationship.

[@jesuinacosta1379]

Welcome to Timor Leste pope Francisco ❤🙏

[@wisnuonly2108]

Indonesia. walaupun berbeda bahasa.kulit.cultur. keyakina agama. Tetap Indonesian bhenika Tunggu ika

[@jbsarmiento9703]

Hopefully Timor Leste and Papua New Guinea would become a full member of ASEAN soon. These two nations are our brothers and should be immersed in Southeast Asia also to boost both countries economies which are two of the world's poorest. God bless His Holiness' visit, the East Timorese and Papuans.

[@estevaoabel3439]

While I think timor leste is part of greater southeast asia region, PNG on the other hand is not. Its a pacific country, having connections far deeper in the pacific forums and community more than in asean. I think observer status would be appropriate for them in this case. Idk thats my 2 cents

[@EmmanuelLavi-d2n]

Am sorry we are not poor in PAPUA NEW GUINEA,GET UR FACTS RIGHT

[@sisiliairianipaonganan6131]

Will Australia agree?

[@azabujuban-hito8085]

Why?

[@afaridpirmansyah7867]

aren't East Timor already part of ASEAN ? , while PNG is not even Asian to begin with they are located in Oceania region

[@gracejm717]

Please don't put words into the Pope's mouth! 🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀Please understand what he truly meant - he simply said not to criminalize homosexuals, for that matter the Christian faith does not allow us to condemn anyone but to forgive anyone who hurts us, pray for their conversion, and love everyone as we are all children of God. Hate the sin, not the sinner - that is the message! And for the record, the Pope does not come up with anything due to his own wish or desire.

[@JohnSiadto]

I 100 % agree as i always do eversince in various vlogs and fb posts

[@corriemarut520]

luar biasa Pope Francis selamat datang di Timles

[@lastChang]

The Pope should go visit Taiwan 🇹🇼 for the Taiwanese Catholic community. Taiwanese are lining up to see the Papa there.

[@browncony3897]

Roman pope dare not even make a stand for Taiwan. 😅

[@anastasiadaunan3751]

China will not allow it 😂😂

[@xxatya]

Pope prefer visit beijing to unite capitalism and socialism

[@whoami66669]

@@browncony3897 lol 😂✌

[@browncony3897]

@@whoami66669 Roman pope kow tow to China emperor Xi 😅

[@jlb1397]

The Temorist young activist talks about Pope's intentions as if he contributed a lot to his country as what Pope did in Argentina's poorest of the poor neighborhood in early years of Pope's life. I ask him to compare what he have done to what Bergoglio the Pope contribute to his local community not to mention the world.

[@zevita6400]

As an East Timorese, I am watching this after the pope's visit today in Dili. Thousands of people came to participate in welcoming this visit. I do agree by points gathered from our fellows in this videos. One takeaway point I like from this documentary is that if the Catholic church wants to strengthen its community, it needs to engage with people not only in religious sense but also on social and Development aspects.

[@AM-STM]

@@zevita6400 I am watching the Pops visit to East Timor from Montreal Canada, my homeland, and I wish and I pray that I will visit more myself and the Philippines next year during my three weeks holidays

[@zevita6400]

@@AM-STM I hope for your wish to be fulfilled. Take care

[@roamaroundgisg7362]

The #Philippines must buy oil and petroleum products from Timor Leste. In return, Timor Leste should collaborate with the Philippines to: 1. Develop plantations for more crop grownth and even export. 2. Seek investment to have Supermarkets such as SM, Robinson, Gaisano, NCCC and Central Warehouse or Pure Gold. 3. Mining operations. Timor Leste's Catholic Church can learn from the Philippines' Ateneo Universities, Notre Dame Universities, Holy Cross Colleges, Dominican Unis and colleges like UST, and Dela Salle. The Philippines' Catholic Universities and Colleges are some of Largest and Best in the Country. Timor Leste's Catholic Church and Government can learn from the Philippines' past hardships and current economic developments, and robust economy. Believe me dear Timorese brothers and sisters, the Philippines was like in your situation way back in 70s and 80s.

[@arfmendel1]

The Philippines was overtaken by both Indonesia and Vietnam in economic terms during the Duterte regime. Isn't this enough proof that extractivist and exploitative neoliberal economic policies are indeed very damaging? Timor Leste can learn from the Philippines to avoid becoming like the Philippines.

[@raymond-qz6ld]

​@@arfmendel1 You are somehow misinformed about Duterte and liberalism. Because they definitely oppose each other.

[@raymond-qz6ld]

@@arfmendel1 However, in the Philippines liberalism and communism are somehow synonymous. They have more common things than conflict.

[@marco_Guterres]

Welcome to Timor Leste pope Francis 🤗

[@reicr]

About 28:00 the tolerance in my beloved country Indonesia: 1. If a country is governed based on the majority religion, as that man said, then the struggles of the minority heroes in the past were in vain (and it wasn’t worth it for them to fight for the nation's independence). Several developed countries that once required their citizens to adhere to a certain religion have since abolished such mandatory rules, granting freedom of religion. Although some discriminatory actions still persist, this is part of the process- a process toward better acceptance. It may be difficult for us as minorities today, but we must not allow future generations to suffer. Approaching and learning about differences in any context can be our goal to live in peace. Indonesia is a pluralistic country, remember that! 2. And if you want to understand Pope Francis’ statement, you need to read and carefully examine it. Blessing does not mean administering the sacrament of marriage (in Christian-Catholic teachings), and yeah sure, cuz you don't know about this. The sacrament of marriage can only take place between a man and a woman. If someone or a same-sex couple asks for a blessing (especially from priests), the blessing should be given, but not the sacrament of marriage, because sacraments are sacred in Catholicism. 3. Discrimination in Indonesia is indeed very real and heartbreaking. If you are confident in your religion, you will believe in it more strongly without fearing the presence of other religions. I want to say that this world, and even this country, will not be balanced or peaceful if we do not accept differences.

[@am_evil]

Untuk Timor leste : Di garap saja "nostalgic tourism" Karena pasarnya ada dari turis indonesia. Contoh gedung SMA 1 , SMP 1&2 itu digarap jadi tempat kunjungan turis misal di hari minggu. Sangat disayangkan Kalau turis indonesia yg mau nostalgia kesana di cuekin 🙏🙏🙏

[@karmat7]

Was Indonesia once a fluorishing buddhist nation?

[@xxatya]

True and polute by portugeese & dutch colonialisme. Infiltrating terorist from middle east and occupied the resources

[@DiniKusuma]

Indonesia was once a flourishing many religions nation

[@Kinoxtop]

May God bless your country, mmmmm Timor Leste for the first time to hear about it

[@anacipaulina818]

They are the poorest country in Asia..but their passport one of the strongest compare to Indonesian passport 😅😅how ironic😅

[@civiliseddisobedience3096]

All Pope Francis has to do is to ask Catholics to support development and the visit will easily pay for itself.

[@CancioOliveira]

Some of comentator, provide their coments without fundaments knowlege,, the expenditure of the budget to build the Saint Altar in Tasi 3, rally reflect to the percentage of Chatolic religion in Timor-Leste, it's normal.

[@avaronist1]

We have to accept that not all can be Rich and not all can be poor. The both co exist and there is no problem with that , unless we see it as an issue. Both has its role. To be of service of each other. Imagine when we all are rich , nobody will collect your garbage and soon on!

[@lucystephanieproperties]

For 12 yrs not even 60 people was able to sign for a parish to be built? That's sad. We need to pray so more churches will be built in other areas and stop overcrowding in one church. 🙏

[@daddyraffles7083]

❤️ 🇸🇬 + 🇹🇱 ❤️ Singapore can help Timor Leste by contributing expertise in urban development and public housing that is organized and comfortable. also contribute expertise in public transport network planning. in addition, Singapore can provide job opportunities in sectors that require labor such as the construction sector and domestic workers In addition, Singapore can also work with Timor Leste in the engineering sector to explore the oil and gas sector such as petroleum exploration

[@marekdeboer7977]

Can can can

[@neymanodolski4007]

East timor clearly not appealing enough for Singapore goverment, at least for now..

[@em98237]

Nah less profitable compared to investing in its neighbour lol

[@venanciopereira133]

❤❤ Good idea! Policies plus lots of things must be in place. But remember. We have Portuguese points of views that the design would be different. It depends on who is leading and the current situation is not quite possible to address your points and my concerns. ♥️♥️

[@alexanderx4452]

Singapore should also stop blocking the Timorese bid for accession to ASEAN.

[@gizela9]

there should be sub-title or voice over in tetum

[@arceuslvx1009]

Wah di video ini menampar bangsa Indonesia sangat keras ya! Fakta semua! Susah bangun gereja, kekerasan Timur Leste, dll.

[@buteratellme7194]

Bangun rumah ibadah ga seenak jidatlo, harus ada SKB3 menteri. kalo minoritas lau mendirikan ibadah harus ada persetujuan berapa puluh warga setempat. Ga hanya gereja, masjid pun susah di bali dan ntt. semua sama kalo jadi minoritas

[@arceuslvx1009]

@@buteratellme7194 Kenapa harus ada persetujuan? Jika agama tersebut tertulisdi dalam UUD 1945 harusnya tidak usah ada persetujuan! Kecuali Di luar 6 agam yang disetujui ole UUD 1945. Jadinya di tiap daerah yang minoritas susah membangun tempat ibadah! Beberapa bangunan ibadah juga sebenarnya illegal! Apalagi banyakanya masjid.

[@arceuslvx1009]

@@buteratellme7194 Peraturan seperti itu harusnya diahpuskan hanya memperkeruh suasana. Jika di luar 6 agama tersebut baru harus ada izin seperti bahai, sikh, mormon, dlll.

[@grandebadidea7689]

​@@arceuslvx1009diatur biar ga seenaknya bikin rumah ibadah sembaranga. ntar kos-kosan jadi gereja padahal tdk ada umat kristen di situ. harus ada imb, tanda tangan warga sekitar dan skb3 mentri. di negara maju ga seenaknya bikin bangunan, bikin toko aja izinnya bisa berbulan bulan

[@arceuslvx1009]

@@grandebadidea7689 Lah, lihat Islam jika pengajian di rumah, kosan, di mana saja boleh! 😅 Ga boleh gitu dong! Itu tidak adil bagi seluruh rakyat Indonesia.

[@zethcao11]

Sana yung kababayan kung may kaya na nag totour sa iabang bansa, consider Timor Leste as your bucketlist pa naman ma boost ang economy nila, yung pumupunta sa Bali punta din kayo doon.

[@elliebabyfish9145]

Minute 36 : “ Let’s hope we can move from religious tolerance to religious engagement.Where we take other religions truly as a gift from God and not as a threat to my privileges in the community .

[@joanhendry5749]

Why do people fail to understand what the Pope says about blessings? Blessings are NOT for same sex couples BUT for the individual and never at the same time - not a blessing for such a union

[@guskim2834]

Portuguese Timor....

[@LaurensiusSopang]

Jika melihat segala sesuatu secara negatif maka segala kebenaran yang diwartakan selalu dilihat dengan mata dan penilaian negatip. Orang-orang seperti ini belum beres dengan diri mereka sendiri....

[@benignadacostamendonca2017]

Timor Leste❤️🇹🇱

[@Noname-dr1jm]

The pope didn't bless the same sex couple reletionship but bless the couple individually...

[@mahetanovita1080]

Paus membantu umat seluruh dunia tdk pandang agama

[@LalunaCosta]

The best

[@isxuanhere]

37:38 , false. Do not twist his words. Although I am part of the community, same sex couples cannot be blessed as it is against the teachings. However, individuals in a same sex relationship can be blessed. Because blessings are made for everyone. It should be inclusive. Hope this clears up the confusion :)

[@gunshotlagoon922]

Thank you for pointing this out. The media especially completely turned the truth behind the blessings upside down.

[@mikanatsuki2489]

We wellcome you fellow indonesian catholics to timor leste, you can be a timor leste cityzens

[@grock7971]

No you guys so ugly and dirty 🤣🤣

[@dwikie123]

timor leste still use US dollar until now, it's make local product very expensive in market but if they make their own currency, who will keep their currency, they don't have oil to backup, great industry to backup, i don't know and i don't care btw greeting from indonesia

[@davidfreitas4945]

Timor Leste❤❤❤❤

[@musmus7708]

Amin Tuhan memberkati Timur Leste

[@tidvrlarvt1023]

Timor bukan timur

[@SpeakUp2222]

Indonesia is increasingly unsafe for minority people, many incidents prove that many minorities are being terrorized and expelled because they practice religion that is not the same as the majority. It is very difficult for minorities to build houses of worship in Indonesia because there are many regulations that hinder development. Indonesia is a country where people who adhere to the majority religion always feel suspicious of minority groups. In the name of democracy, the government is now allowing the growth of ideologies that do not accept differences. minorities are now not safe in Indonesia.

[@apaaja9983]

jalan satu-satunya adalah merdeka

[@dindachancamui3508]

It's because of those extremists people, actually a lot of moderate Moslems alls hate those kind of people

[@LawanaWita]

14:43 The Timorese also wearing West Papua Liberation Front and support terrorism and internal Affairs of Indonesia, it's shame action that must not to be, and againts the UN Charter

[@jonnersibatuara1358]

Thanks to all of the steik holders in Indonesia, especially our government and peoples, to welcome Pope. Peace be with us.Amen

[@babydiablo]

Timor Leste is a province

[@rudynugroho7314]

my motheris catholic and my father is moslem, they only separated when they die