HR Insider’s Secrets: Here’s What Companies Aren’t Telling You About Layoffs

[@deathempire70]

Just remember this everyone: your company is NOT your family. And HR is as it is - you a HUMAN is a RESOURCE. Do what you need to do and you are done.

[@professordumbledore369]

👌👌👌

[@menumlor9365]

100% That’s part of why when I’m not required to work more than the minimum hours I just go home. Sure I get paid but at the expense of my own personal time.

[@therayman3]

Also HR is not your friend.

[@rubenponders]

It’s probably why some companies are changing titles from HR to People operations. I worked as a global talent partner for a few years and a recruiter. All “HR” teams were considered people teams.

[@Cyan_Nightingale]

I once made a mistake trusting an HR about the problem in my company but words got way to the head of HR and then head of division, thanks to him. And no, don't do more than you are instructed if you sense something wrong within your company. Do the bare minimum & go home, avoid office drama.

[@cflorimond]

Just calling out the hypocrisy of companies expecting "integrity" from their hires when their actions clearly do not reflect that.

[@Nelsonwmj]

Not only that. It seems job loyalty died the day HR departments were invented. Because their existence provided a crucial buffer between management and their workers, which they could then more easily just see as digits on a sheet to balance out like a perfectly rational math equation.

[@marinekong235]

The company pays you so the company can decide. Simple as that. The customer can choose which call girl he wants not the other way round.

[@maynnemillares]

@@Nelsonwmj When my father was still in the corporate world 20 years ago, there was no HR Department. The function of taking care of the employees well being was under the Personnel department. Restore the Personnel department.

[@Cyan_Nightingale]

Funny how HR expected integrity, while at the same time they don't exactly value honesty from candidates and from their own employees. Funny again because companies are often lying about the jobdesc & employment contracts.

[@marinekong235]

@@Cyan_Nightingale no lies, all employment contract has a clause that favours the employer.

[@far9255]

Him: No you don't lie in your resume if you get laid off, because you breach the value of integrity Also him: No we don't tell the manager is laid off, we tell other employees that the manager leave for a personal reason.

[@BenyaminLimanto]

That's what business are nowdays... there are no guarantees whatsoever.. it starts with the culture from GM in the 80's and copied to any Fortune 500 Companies and now in Asia.... well.. it's all always about math... it means if you are expenses, you are disposable item for the company now days... that's what it's..

[@marinekong235]

You don’t lie about your layoff. The company that lays off can lie. You can get fired and the company can’t. Simple as that

[@CattleFarmer667]

No need to lie about lay off. Just need to worry about your resume and relevant skill set.

[@VOAN]

I don't get why anyone would lie about them getting layoff. Getting layoff is nothing bad, getting fired on the otherhand is something you should never lie about and if you're honest about it some company would actually give you a second chance to work with them just for being honest and true.

[@txp158]

@@marinekong235 Yes a company may lie, and that means it has an integrity issue. Knowing that fact, you should make everyone aware and you should be ready to leave when the time is right. In other words, you can choose to leave as well.

[@M43782]

Don't be loyal to your company. You can also "lay off" your employer. Follow your what is good for you, money, same as every company will do about you.

[@beetledune9264]

True,treat company as a workplace not 2nd home.If think being loyal is gonna save u,guess what,,u not.Also treat colleague as colleague,not bff.be kind just don't cross line.u can be replaced anytime,any moment.doesn't matter how good ur performance is.

[@ericwarncke]

Takeaway: HR can lie to you, but if you lie to them, it's a "betrayal". 😅

[@jeremychan7888]

Karma

[@vicluu8026]

This guy basically want people to not lie to him, but he lies to other people. This is what HR is all about.

[@dyVal]

HR man dislikes an applicant lying about being laid off. But HR man or HR LIES about not telling ahead or giving enough certain time for employees to get another job. HR man discusses layoff as part of management measure to save like $1,000,000 million. Sure. Right. But HR man should change layoff announcement to earlier stage since its initial action. Coz 1 month lay off grace period is not applicable to all or enough to all to get another job. How about submitting these changes to Labor Law? Applies to all countries.

[@ChrisPTY507]

Companies lie to their employees and job candidates all the time yet they et pissy when a candidate or employee lies to them. Gotta love their double standards. Learn how to spot sociopaths and narcissists and these kind of behaviours becomes easily detectable.

[@ripplecutter233]

Right, it's a f'ing business transaction. Companies are playing games with, so imma play games with them.

[@TransformEveryday-su2mn]

HR = wasted piece of life

[@Mr.MiddleClassPH]

If they are treating you as a mere HUMAN RESOURCES then just treat them as MOMEY RESOURCES. Don't give out everything to them and just meet the requirements of your job.

[@Jupiterxice]

Exactly........ I dont go above or beyond nor stay loyal to them.

[@GameFuMaster]

@@Jupiterxicethe only reason why you go above and beyond, is to gain the experience to move onto the next (higher paying) job :)

[@chookitty5219]

Treating them like that rn

[@wonderfulfable]

So, laying off employees at the lower level as part of a cost cutting measure... How about... Reducing the huge annual bonuses those CEO's, COO's, CFO's etc receive at the higher management level? These top management people are far removed from the situation at the bottom line; simply because "it is not me, therefore not for me to care". I do believe that there are HR personnel who are empathetic enough to support & encourage outgoing employees during the layoff transition. But in my 18 years of being in the labour force, I have learned that HR is "never your friend", and the irresponsible HR types can go as far in gaslighting employees; by telling them they are not of value to the company.

[@John_Smith_86]

If you hire a worse CEO, how is that going to help the company? By your logic, a mega-MNC on the Fortune 500 should not implement layoffs, but instead pay the CEO just 1 million. After all, 1 million salary is plenty of money, right? There is no need to pay more compensation

[@ILovePlayingZeldaGamesOnSwitch]

HR is never your friend. They only think about the company and if you are lay off, take a breath and find another company.

[@ZeeZeeNg]

@@John_Smith_86 People at higher management can afford to take a pay cut without having to worry about not being able to pay for basic necessities, food, bills, daily expenses. The workers affected by the layoffs are in a far more precarious position.

[@KeanLeo]

how about you establish your own company? mai come here cock talk la

[@goldwinner6139]

Infected HR Department, Human Resource Manager or Executive eventually also being layoff

[@MohanRaj-vp1zt]

Companies should never expect integrity from employees, as they themselves don’t care of integrity when they layoff left, right and center.

[@BomBomm12345]

Companies dont have compassion.. be it rain or shine.. good or bad economy.. always constantly be on a hunt for jobs and passively apply.. you never know what can happen tomorrow

[@krollpeter]

Don't go for a job at multinationals or big public companies. Look for a job at a privately owned company. The owner may not be able to pay you that much. But there you more often meet bosses who take pride in their company, and feel responsibility for company and staff.

[@noproblematallmate]

Treat working for a company as a business transaction with yourself as a business. You are selling them your service for monetary reward. Your first mistake would be to think of your company as your parents who have been taking care of you since young. Think positively and in the shoes of the business and as a business and you will go far. You will never hear successful CEOs complain about their companies when they were just at entry level. They see themselves as someone higher... Who takes charge of their own life. Not children.

[@annat6249]

@@krollpeterThat might be fine when economy is good. When I left my previous company, they asked me to work part time for them. They were small. When economy get worst this year, they closed their business and everyone got let go. Basically you are willing to get pay less for some love and stability in small company. But stability may not be realistic. When company need to save costs to survive, lay off is one way. Small companies have less funding to survive bad economy

[@laughinggiraffe9176]

Not only that, but it doesn't matter how much you've done for the company in the past, or if your past work is worth a lot more than your past pay, as soon as you are no longer useful enough in their eyes to justify your salary that's it. For example, did you hear about the woman who donated an organ to her boss at a car dealership and saved her life? She needed a few days to rest after donating that organ. Her boss fired her when she asked! Imagine firing someone who just saved your life. I guess she figured she already got the organ she needed, why do anything in return if no one can take her kidney back? I just could never do that.

[@MichaelHalsell]

The role of Human Resources have been thrust into a light of evaluation and scrutiny. The duality of advocating for employee needs but mainly being entrusted with advancing the organizational goals.

[@RobertIngram-zt3ew]

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[@StephenBrown-gt3lk]

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[@ChrisWilson-oy4ec]

Please, I’d love more info on this! Some of my friends have been talking about it, and working remotely for an investment firm is exactly what I want! I’m currently jobless, so any help with the right information would be greatly appreciated I’m a great fit for this type of job. please help how can i apply.

[@AnnaReilly-m3v]

Hey , do you have a place where I can apply, and what experience do you need to have this job?

[@AndrewSutherland-ub3hd]

$390k yearly wow , please how do i apply also ???

[@ThomasMooney-mw2eg]

Thank you so much! I just looked her up online, found her website, and contacted her through it. She seemed very legitimate, and I sent an email i found on her page.

[@FunkyChild718]

In the US, employers don't share reason for termination during reference checks to avoid lawsuits. Tons of people avoid sharing that they were laid off during interviews and they still get jobs.

[@leewn2319]

3 key things to remember are: (1) All companies look at their bottom line & profit margin. That’s their top priority (2) No company will feel indebted to their staff. Neither will they be loyal to their staff! U are only a pawn and only useful to the company if u r bringing in profit for the company. (3) U r not indispensable. U can be replace with other cheaper cost staff hungry for a job.

[@maynnemillares]

When my father was still in the corporate world 20 years ago, there was no HR Department. The function of taking care of the employees well being was under the Personnel department.

[@coloursoftherainbow8399]

It's the same function, it's just now more commonly known as HR instead of personnel

[@stevepreskitt283]

@@coloursoftherainbow8399 100%. I've been in the working world for about 40 years now. At no time was "personnel" any different from "HR". No matter what you call them, they're there for the company's benefit, not the employee's.

[@Jupiterxice]

Remember never stay loyal to any company or business. They are not your friends always stay 2 steps ahead of them, as well act like a free agent.

[@___David___Savian]

>>> Some reasons big companies layoff large groups of employees: 1. Public companies want to have more money freed to pay their share holders without lowering assets. 2. Many in top positions want an increase in their salary and bonuses. Hence, massive layoffs to get that money for themselves. 3. To take the pressure off of management with a smaller employee staff moneywise and in future company growth projections. 4. The biggest layoff reason is to hire new employees at a lower salary for existing positions.

[@janicetan4626]

A responsible company will try not to over hire and get rid of unproductive workers immediately instead of letting them drain the company's financial resources and not contributing to the bottom line. It's better to have a lean and high performing team than to have a large staff strength with many leeches hanging around.

[@tylerh1648]

Inevitably it happens to every company when it grows. Leeches burrow in and get good at hiding and doing just enough to get the spotlight off of them while everyone else has to pick up the slack.

[@taski1]

and you'll find many of those leeches in nepotism management

[@hoi-polloi1863]

A company can't be too stripped to the bone either. Employees will get sick, go on maternity leave, go on sabbatical, things like that. You do need a little bit of margin.

[@DomnulSarb]

What nonsense....corporate HR talking about "integrity".

[@Nick-pc9tf]

Nothing about 'Performance Improvement Plan' tactics to force people to leave with no severance?

[@EGCN-]

Dirty laundry cannot show. lol

[@Nick-pc9tf]

@@EGCN- 🤣

[@teohyc]

If they show, other companies will learn

[@EGCN-]

@@teohyc plenty of companies already doing it

[@taski1]

if they force you to sign something, you can disagree right next to your signature. Don't know how much that helps your case for unemployment, but this way their paper trail is now your paper trail too

[@wolf-yw9wk]

lol dont lie about about getting laid off… but also… worker: “hey where’s john the old manager?” company: “he left for personal reasons”

[@medes1062]

LMAO, I also left a comment about that. Honesty and integrity are two different things. Lack of honesty is always present, in fact it is important for interpersonal relationships and maybe a skillset for some professions. That is why I don't like HR, they are usually very political, contradictory, hypocrite and think they are smart.

[@stevepreskitt283]

"Personal reasons" means "he was personally told to GTFO".

[@itsjustabigailify]

I have been impacted by an company I have loved working with. As part of the wider HR (not doing the firing but working on other functions), lets say that even HR professionals are also gravely impacted by this. Layoffs sometimes are a reflection of overhire and not planning ahead, and if lesson learnt, can prevent many heartbreaks down the line. In times like these, its also a timely reminder to focus more on "You". Are you investing in yourself everyday? are you doing what you can to improve yourself? Truth be told, when layoffs happen, it happens, you cannot guarantee it wont happen to you a few times throughout your career. Gone are the days you expect good employers to do whatever they can to keep you, because in truth, unlike previous generations, you will move on in a few years or even less than that. So I guess, in a certain extend, it goes both ways.

[@shroomer3867]

Laying off someone can have detrimental impacts not only directly on the person you are laying off, but also indirectly to their family. As an example, my father was working in a company in Belgium and we moved in because everything seemed to be going well, but by the middle of the year layoffs happened, and since my father was only allowed to work for the company abroad, we had to pack all of our things and move back as quickly as possible before we ran out of money and savings. That's not all, do you remember that I stated that they did this in the middle of the year? Yeah, well it turns out that they layed him off just at the beginning of June, what this meant was that I couldn't finish the school year, which was in a special class designed for people who were still learning french, but we were still learning current high school maths and english and other classes. Now guess what? Because I wasn't able to finish the year, I didn't have a report card we could bring with us, and thus when we moved back to Spain, they didn't have records of me and said: "You didn't complete this year, you have 0 in everything, feel free to repeat every single class by yourself in 2 weeks time for the extraordinary exams" And thus, because it was only 2 weeks of prep for an entire school year, we decided to not do anything and they kept me in the current grade, even though grade wise I have never failed and the high school average for me resulted in being around 7.5 by the end of it. To be honest, I don't know who was more cruel in this situation, the HR department for laying off my father who immigrated to the country with us, or Spain for having an educational system so inept that they can't get records from another European country of me studying and doing well in Belgium.

[@krollpeter]

He is talking fluffy bla bla. Certainly companies will look into who they think is most dispensable. Of course older people, those with more medical leave, etc., they will be first to go. Secondly, if you leave this kind of number crunchers in responsibility for too long, I guarantee your company will disappear from the market. Been there, seen that.

[@peterkoh5632]

CNA probably has budget constraint to hire a proper 'HR professional'.

[@Slla-th5vt]

Actually it depends on how big the company in question is. If the company is small or middle size? Sure, you can look into who is dispensible or how take more medical leaves, those as reasons. If the company is huge, cherry-picking each individual takes too much effort and don't help the bottom line much. They are cutting in batches and projects. Plus in huge companies, insurance payout is already paid out one lump sum. So issues like medical leaves don't contribute as much.

[@lastspring]

Lol, I used to predict these for the coworker layoff timing betting pool. Go on the meeting calendar tool. Schedule a meeting with all the local managers and one ups to get the grid of when they are available in the month for the meeting at 9am. Looks for meeting block outs involving them all that begin well before the working day, last until noon and then out of the office (maybe) for the rest of the day. Bingo!

[@cyberlip666]

1st sign of an impending layoff: they call a department meeting to address the layoff rumors and assure everyone the rumors are false and that there is no plans for a layoff. This is no joke LOL, this actually happened right before my entire department was laid off at Starbucks corporate

[@ashley8980]

My company does not provide pantry snacks at all lol. The most we have in the pantry is a basin, (plain) water dispenser, fridge and microwave. Because they know we are poorly paid and need to store and heat up food from home. My company don't lay off employees. They have toxic upper and middle management and toxic unfavourable practices to force employees to leave.

[@fion3943]

Leave and write a negative review on glassdoor and other review sites. Good luck

[@Nelsonwmj]

All the more significant because if employees resign then the company doesn't need to pay them retrenchments severance pay.

[@Nelsonwmj]

​@@fion3943there has till today been no proper study done to establish any correlation or causation between a company's Glassdoor reviews and it's success in retaining or attracting people to work for them.

[@marinekong235]

But you are still there hahaha

[@ashley8980]

@@marinekong235 hahaha not by choice. because of a 4 letter B word.

[@VeraW.Talley]

I had initially planned to retire at 62, work part-time, and save money, but the impact of high prices on various goods and services has significantly disrupted my retirement plan. I'm worried about whether those who experienced the 2008 financial crisis had it easier than I currently am. The volatility of the stock market is a concern as my income has decreased, and I fear that I won't be able to contribute as much as before, potentially jeopardizing my retirement savings.

[@JoshuaAltom]

The increasing prices have impacted my plan to retire at 62, work part-time, and save for the future. I'm concerned about whether those who navigated the 2008 financial crisis had an easier time than I am currently experiencing. The combination of stock market volatility and a decrease in income is causing anxiety about whether I'll have sufficient funds for retirement.

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[@HermanBekkink]

Thank you for the lead. I searched her up, and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon.

[@IzzyChopChop]

yeah about HR........my former company was just acquired and it was so sweet seeing some of the C-suite have that "open to work" banner on their LinkedIn profiles now LOL! Especially the HR executive

[@eddenoy321]

My last company gave us blue badges to wear, which served to remind everyone that I was 'on notice' and soon to be let go. The other workers would shun you if you had to wear a blue badge.

[@ReceptiveKing93]

Why tell the truth when companies are lying. Remember folks you have to treat these employers just like they treat you. Just a number.

[@kkhalifah1019]

Regardless of how much a company talks about integrity, the P&C nature of layoffs always means the process is extremely opaque for whatever reason right or wrong. There's just no point in arguing or demanding justification, coz being retrospective will only screw you up in your head. It's always better to put all your energy into moving forward, to look ahead, discuss compensation and get what you need to secure your next job i.e. letter of recommendation from your boss etc. In the end, loyalty to an employer is pointless. You should always be loyal only to your own skills and professional development - that's the only real insurance you can ever have.

[@p87u]

Why would a potential employee be expected to hold the value of integrity by being honest about their previous lay-off while the company itself does not want to reveal that they are going to have lay off?

[@ReceptiveKing93]

You called it a double standard.

[@kesayo]

They want to know if you were laid off because it gives them additional data to negotiate a lower salary. Its like asking what your previous salary was. That's why many states are making it illegal to ask that. They should make it illegal to ask anything that isnt related to your qualifications. It has nothing to do with integrity. Everyone has a right to compete for a fair salary without someone trying to take advantage of your personal financial status. These millionaire executives lie every day, and the have the nerve to judge you while trying to cheat you out of a few thousand dollars.

[@gotthecutenessoverload1086]

Too bad sinkie gov love to suckle on corpo teats, otherwise employment laws would be more fair to the employee.

[@CleverCheetah]

So employees are actually just contractors. Difference used to be job security, pension, and promotions but I guess thats a thing of the past.

[@peterkoh5632]

it's complete denial to say layoff decisions have absolutely nothing to do with the person. We are not 3 years old. There has to be strategic consideration about WHO you choose to remain in the company to take things forward.

[@Nelsonwmj]

Not really when so many layoffs are driven by cost cutting concerns. Which in turn are driven by quarterly earning calls and public scrutiny especially if a company is publicly traded on the stock market. Can survive to produce a good enough Qx earning, who cares what staff with what experience gets retained in the end?

[@anongos]

Not always true. As an example: you can be one of the best performers in a project, but your ass is first on the chopping block when they do workforce reductions simply because you're a contractor and not an FTE. If you think all layoffs are driven by merit, you're naive.

[@sor3999]

LOL no. Where do you even hear this or is this just an assumption of yours? Fired and laid off are two different things. Sometimes it's just cutting whole departments because the company does not want to pursue this product. Or just letting go everyone who was recently hired in the last year because they overhired and went over budget. Sometimes it's completely random since the order is to cut head count by 20%. The fact Twitter has to rehire mission critical people back at double the price. When they're in a rush to make the next quarter report look good they just do it quickly. When you're cutting costs quickly you don't have time to evaluate 1000s of employees.

[@GameFuMaster]

nope. My entire team got laid off. note: entire team. Our department was discerned as not worth the money so we all got let go.

[@ZackChow]

what about if you say you are impacted by layoff then the company start to low ball you cause they know you are desperate for job. i think such qns should not be asked cause layoff doesn't reflect the candidate's skillsets.

[@ArjunVids]

Don't lie in your resume is the biggest lie that everybody does.

[@TravelsoftheCat]

Ah yes. You are not allowed to lie or leave out information, but the company will do everything possible to string you along and be deceptive.

[@gotthecutenessoverload1086]

Exactly lol. This guy is a scumbag trying to fearmonger people.

[@jgrab1]

3:20 - I love the way he dodges the question. He says in now way should it be about... Well, we *know* that. But the question was IS it?

[@beetledune9264]

I was once accused of 'absent' by HR,lucky i have a good colleague that can testify and cctv proof that i was indeed inside office the time n date she (HR) said i was absent.Turn out,she didn't update the thumb print code,and mine have two diff.thumb code.She asked me to come in her desk and started to talk about being absent and thus my salary will be cut.HR can be villain.

[@annabelconstantine1241]

That’s fact some of the trifling

[@jbrkjferkjbekjb]

In theory is that it’s not “personal”, but ultimately it is because they have to consider who they prefer to work with.

[@richardf6932]

In the US, depending the state that you live in, you may have vacation and sick time earn and tracked separately. In a layoff, some states will not allow you to get paid out of your sick time and/or vacation time. I would suggest that if you are in a iffy situation, find out what the rules are within your state. Also, your employer might tell you that you can by health insurance during the transition (COBRA) but it is super expensive. If you or your family have a preexisting condition, you want to do your research first....

[@richardf6932]

I was a manager (Fortune 100 firm) that had to select and give the news to my staff that they have been selected for layoff. It stinks. However, I always encourage my team to learn new skills or learn new type of skills (public speaking, reading contracts...) so that they are more well rounded. You never know what experience and skills you have that would catch the eye of your next manager....

[@ReceptiveKing93]

In reality it’s no one’s business of why you were let go from your last job.

[@bakcheehong]

Meaning that HR only cut cost, and doesn't generate revenue? Think they should go in the first place.

[@janem3575]

Pantry?!?! We've never had that. oh well, we're already closer to layoffs

[@muhammadhaziqfaiz8857]

HR is there to protect the company and making sure the employees is at the wrong by all means (if things go south)

[@eklim2034]

"You talk about math" HR cost-cutting strategy knows no math, it's simple short-term looking arithmetic

[@aizuddinfahmi9255]

Not lying about being laid off will cost yourself more harm than good. Sure you'll get the job but definitely the HR will lowball your salary than your last. Never EVER go full honest with your HR since the company themselves are never always honest with you anyways. It's good CNA didn't disclose this guy's face because for sure his house will be burnt down if his identity were to be public.

[@Theprimaryfocus]

I have no idea why anyone would lie about being laid off

[@benjamindorge5936]

Some companies announce that layoffs will be happening to scare people into quitting. Saves on severance costs.

[@sor3999]

Better for me to find a job while I have one.

[@RooseveltCoopling]

Companies are not our families. Letting go is part of a cycle. What happens is that, if the process will be humane, one has to be aware that their position might become redundant for several reasons. This happened not only to me but a plethora of folks. Bear in mind that: - have a side hustle - keep an open eye for other positions - never stop studying and get more qualifications - be the first to dump the company or else...

[@Its_a_me_WSA]

These are a bunch of baloney. HR will always support the company, never the individual

[@koalatheworld]

6:44 What a loads of sheet when he said be confident about yourself when he himself is scared to reveal his face 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 How to trust what he says???

[@VOAN]

That's the thing about higher ups, corporate snakes could hide behind smoke and mirror but they don't want you the workers to have that same safety net.

[@justintay4044]

he hide his face like those insiders from crime syndicate

[@geo_mukkath]

One question: If you are laid off and you mention that in your interview, will that not affect your compensation ? You are at vulnerable stage in your life and the interviewer knows it now. Will they not take advantage of it and give you a low ball offer ?

[@gotthecutenessoverload1086]

Most likely they will.

[@Techno-Universal]

What’s really shady is when they lay off a team of five people and replace them with a single employee that is expected to constantly work overtime because of them being given the workload of five full time employees.

[@Omikoshi78]

“Support them transition” means carrying you out of the office with help from security guards.

[@plainseed]

Well, this guy definitely has integrity issue based on his answers consistency

[@ReceptiveKing93]

Lmao that’s what I was picking up on the whole time 😂

[@plainseed]

@@ReceptiveKing93 I'm starting to think that such trait is a professional requirement in HR.

[@ReceptiveKing93]

@@plainseed it’s a double standard unfortunately. I was fired by my last job and I applied to a job and they asked me why I left my last employer (through a text). I told them it wasn’t a good fit. But when I asked them why the position is open they go radio silent 😂

[@witblitsfpv1265]

Hmm, telling them you were laid off? Two issues with this: 1. Some companies specifically won't take people that have been laid off. 2. If they know it does put you in somewhat of a detrimental situation when negotiating salary. He does have a point about integrity though.

[@Ditrix88]

I have a feeling that this guy can definitely be identified by his silhouette

[@hoi-polloi1863]

Yeah, he's got an interesting profile.

[@69memnon69]

Companies lying about laying off employees but then expecting new candidates to be honest about being laid off... Not that I care to lie about it myself because everyone knows that layoffs nowadays are indicative of corporate greed and not individual performance.

[@KS0102]

This is why trust went out the window. You cant trust people anymore. They only have their best interests at heart, and not yours.

[@MB-xv7er]

Oh it has everything to do with WHO the employee is. I know this because I used to work around a lot of HR employees and I learned a lot. Most times you get fired because people didn’t like your vibe. Happens more often than not

[@jiaweichew3370]

To me this is just wrong, I believe HR’s main job should be ensuring we are adequately staffed and not nose into our style of working or be worried about the cost cutting measures. In fact, the EMPLOYEES should have full say of how much the top level MANAGEMENT is ALLOWED to be paid salary or otherwise and should require a 95% vote to approve ANY bonus which must be CLEARLY documented with SPECIFIC REASON. I’d guarantee the company will save money many times over and be able to pay all employees easily 5-10x the current salary.

[@johnlau6749]

however, the reality is not what u said. In fact, company lay off will be even more frequent because of inflation. Let me tell u this: this is not the inflation wave back in 07/08, this time around is even worse and companies especially IT companies are completely being hit very hard in this wave of inflation

[@jiaweichew3370]

@@johnlau6749 ……and many can pay their top level management hundreds of millions of dollars when they can’t even pay the LOWEST paid employee $50 an hour (which should be the absolute minimum even with foreign employees and failure to do so is either the sale of company assets and imprisonment of top management or bankruptcy)

[@abcxyz7529]

Remember that this guy is speaking from the pov of HR giving advice to make their lives easier. Never volunteer layoff information. When interviewers asked if I was laid off, I always reply "does it matter?" Or "I don't like the connotations and baggage that come with that question. I can give you references and you can go check yourself." even though I wasn't laid off. I didn't lie, and I offered an avenue for them to verify, while also telling them I'm probably not joining because it's an inhumane redundant question. Kicking people when they are down. The fact of the matter is that, companies DO indeed filter out people who were laid off. That's the dirty secret they don't tell you. Because there are thousands and thousands of applicants, why hire one who was laid off potentially because of performance issues? It's more trouble to vet if they were laid off randomly or performance based, best to just prioritise those who are confident enough to resign during a layoff. I'm quoting an actual recruiter here. Do not trust what this man says. It's terrible advice.

[@hoi-polloi1863]

If I were hiring I'd be interested in why the candidate is on the market. Was he laid off (not a big deal)? Was he fired for theft or incompetence (big deal)? Does he just want something new (not a deal at all)?

[@abcxyz7529]

@@hoi-polloi1863 If I were hiring, I'd know I can't trust embellished information from a candidate. Instead I focus on figuring out how the candidate reacts to questions, and not the answers themselves. Answers are worthless, the manner of communication and approach to the questions is worth more. If the hiring manager is asking you for layoff information, just make something up. Also realise that the hiring manager doesn't understand interviews at all.

[@medes1062]

This is the worst take I have ever seen. Don't forget guys, this guy is a HR professional, they aren't really smart when it comes to giving 'advice'. First off, no, both the job and person are involved in the layoff, especially when you are not laying off the entire team. You have to layoff the less capable ones. Also the guy spoke about the lack of integrity when not admitting to the layoff, there is a difference between honesty and integrity. The lack of honesty is ALWAYS present, it does not mean the guy lacks integrity. Jesus. Following his logic, telling the team that the manager left for personal reasons when it is not the case should lack integrity. Spoken like a true HR, really lacking in the brain department. It is not like he lied to harm someone or giving himself undeserved credit.

[@BhdRoussos]

In order to approve for a job at HR you are required to attend successfully the hypocrisy course.

[@XtremuZ]

sociopathy as well

[@IzzyChopChop]

and be spineless

[@dannywidjaya7943]

“It’s about jobs not people” is just corporate talks. People can do various jobs, so at the end of the day it’s about comparing people.

[@tjf7101]

I was laid off about seven months ago. I have to say I feel better about myself after watching this. Wish I could thank this guy.

[@Pheon1982]

This is very insightful video .

[@naldorayn]

If only all managers do their job, we don't need HRs to do large scale lay-off at all. Small scale lay-off, the normal "you're fired" during 1-on-1 should be enough. Good managers should be able to manage their resources and teams effectively to cut costs and/or bring profits. If the team failed to reach target consecutitvely, so the company needs a large lay-off, then the problem is on the manager(s). The management should be the one that take the responsibility first. Including the Cs and the VPs.

[@wumingkkk]

Excuses given by an employer who assists management in laying off their own people expect us to believe he is doing the right thing.

[@Qoonutz]

Always remember that you are just an employee. You do not own the company. Your colleagues are not your friends. You are just another person in the company.

[@BatuFeringghi]

Wonder what the HR personnel will say when they also got to taste the same medicine of Company's cost cutting measure. They are indeed cost centres and not the ones bringing in revenue.

[@crazy808ish]

HR personnel follows what upper management says. It does not matter if they have a taste of the medicine or not. If they are not ruthless, they will be fired for not doing their job too.

[@jayzee9164]

I’ve been part of Work Force Management and seeing huge number employees that needs to be removed from the company- I see this as huge casualties and against human rights.

[@RayLabs]

I call BS on the the Companies don't look at Age or Gender in Layoffs. Look at who has been most impacted at major Tech Company Layoffs recently. It you could get the data it should show that people over 50 are in the majority. Companies will say they don't consider it, but how can it be sheer coincidence when over 60% are Older Employees. And before everyone piles on with the "File an Age Discrimination Lawsuit" response, well while that is all good but these are very expensive to litigate and unless you are rich as Hell it is often not worth it. And given that most Severance agreements are phrased that you are taking the Severance package in place of not suing the company it is harder still to do.

[@Vendavalez]

The topic of “cost cutting targets” often being triggered by the people above wanting more spending money for themselves is left unaddressed for obvious reasons.

[@AirIntakeR]

Great sharing. So long it is not personal, I will try my best.

[@mhandle109]

All the warning signs are there in my job. They are thinking I don’t know 😅

[@Lecentra]

Oh, so they are firing for money and never for who the person is. The explains why so many are firing engineers who carry the team or made complicated software and then the company begs to have them back after the layoff.

[@Name-pq9xn]

Remember folks, HR is there to save the company from you, not the other way around.

[@marcuslct]

Too be honest, the biggest cut should be the HR department, WHY? Because they are the one who shortlisted the chaos ppl into other department

[@OliverKenneth]

Remember, kids: HR did not exist until there were air-conditioned offices.

[@fotamucker7308]

Basically, you need to be honest to HR, but HR no need to be honest to you.

[@johnalex4466]

Stage 1 and 2 are completely peanut. For travel itself, it would be totally depending on the nature of the business travel itself, and the company' footprint. I work in very big MNC, the layoff DO CONSIDER the individual performance. I am not sure any smart company would like to loose a high performance employee especially during downsizing period.

[@MKiurinuRigold]

Make sure you find other ways legally that can bring in income When your passive income is moe than the income you earn from fixed job that means you are stable During post covid my employing firm also shorten working hours for certain department and since the department have yet to regain full strength

[@danieln.2590]

HR's role is never to protect employees, they're there to protect the company.

[@dannywidjaya7943]

So companies can lie but individuals can’t?

[@cathy4875]

I think the central tenet is employers need to be open minded. If they cannot accept hiring someone who has been laid off they should re-examine themselves and ask themselves what the heck are they doing what they are doing.

[@sahiladkar3393]

The comments are more valuable than the video

[@Sjalabais]

A lot of good, basic human skill displayed here: Be honest, be professional, take care of your network. Not earth shattering new insight, really, but important nonetheless.

[@allent4924]

There is no reason whatsoever to lie about being laid off. Every hirer knows that you have no control over layoffs, that it usually has nothing to do with your performance in the company. They will just acknowledge the fact and move on.

[@gskr_1803]

You know shits bad when they have to hide the identity of the interviewee 🤣

[@ElJorro]

Companies don’t care.

[@dolapoalli467]

Good luck finding out.

[@hockwahchee3540]

Does the company discuss with Union regarding the retrenchment exercise?

[@JPHET37]

Be the best you can be in life never take any thing for Granted especially working for a big company

[@hazimmohd1808]

In Malaysia, a lot of MNCs are currently opening a hub instead of opening a production plant which to me is saddening. It just shows that they are trying to find an alternative to get low cost but high skill talent, which sums up the situation here in this country. Professionals are being underpaid.

[@stevepreskitt283]

That's not just in Malaysia. Being underpaid is a worldwide phenomenon.

[@jeffs-uw6hr]

Employers have no loyalty to employees,, only to profitability 🤷‍♂️