Why Job Listing Qualifications Feel Absurd

[@CNBC]

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[@bobbypaycheque]

This course assumes you will be getting to the interview stage.

[@0IIIIII]

Is it a certificate for my LinkedIn or worth CEUs?

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

It's absurd for a video to demonstrate why seeking a job is impossible... only to peddle some janky hack of a "program" regarding body language (lol). That's ludicrously pathetic.

[@elicitm3]

Modern day Job requirements: - Entry level job - No prior experience needed - A $1’000 dollar application fee - Must possess 100 years of experience and skills in order to apply - Must possess a doctorate degree - Willing to earn less than minimum wage or when ever possible for free - Willing to work 24-7, 7 days a week - Must sign a NDA (Non-disclosure agreement) prior to entering - Must go above and beyond your current role - Must give the company full ownership of any and all intellectual rights - Able to lift and carry a full Ton for hours on end - Able to work in extreme weather conditions - A reliable form of transportation - Must supply the company with your own personal vehicle. Bonus if the vehicle is new - Must be willing to relocate at all times - Must be available to work at all times with no prior notice - An IQ of over 9000 - Must smile, cheer and comply to a greater extent than North Koreans when their leader is present - Must take a brainwashing seminar upon entering and when ever needed - Must supply the company with tools, equipment, resources, funds and personnel. Bonus if you convert family, friends and even strangers into our company - Religion, personal views and values are not permitted within or outside company grounds, unless they align with our company’s vision - Must freely relinquish mind, body and soul to the company - Must blindly sign our contract which may or may not change at any time - No medical or recreational substances and activities are allowed - Your position will include but is not limited to verbal, physical, sexual, and spiritual abuse - Must sign your rights away to sue and class action lawsuit against the company and any individual related or involved with the company - The company will not provide any benefits such as medical, dental, vision, sick time, vacation, breaks and financial compensation of any kind

[@radiationclock]

Oh so you just wanted to shill your BS course?

[@soapa4279]

Job requirements today be like: - Must be exactly 21 years old - Master's Degree Required - 10 Years relevant experience - Able to bench press 300lbs - No criminal history including Kindergarten Salary: $15/hr, no PTO, no health care, no oxygen, no breathing Benefits: Once a year pizza party. Apply today! If you are accepted, you will proceed to our 10 round of interviews to see if you are a cultural fit.

[@codyfernfan6274]

I love this so much ❤😂 you’re honestly not far off

[@haihengh]

you can not write age requirement also not allow to background check criminal history any more, i mean you can do background check but not allow to use criminal history as reason for rejecting.

[@blackbroadwayandbeyond]

This would be hilarious if it wasn't 100% true.

[@Pharaoh_The_Great]

And then they be asking you to take an hour assessment test to later get a rejection email.

[@susanschmidt2252]

@@haihenghtell that to anyone over 50 looking for a job.

[@LokTar_Ogar93]

i love how even internship prefers students with previous internship experience now

[@babosanders5223]

the co-op and internship race is actually ridiculous

[@nowellclay1283]

Yea for sure I've applied for so many you need experience for your internship.

[@rere-x6g]

@@nowellclay1283 Please lie on all of this... Lie about your internship experience is literally the best I dont think most people in the comments realize how most old heads even the lady talking is so easily replaceable just lie thats how most of them got hired

[@richguy011]

Soon enough, you will have to pay them for the privilege of working for them to get experience. Wouldn't put it past them.

[@DAMfoxygrampa]

In a future not so far away, you will need 5+ years of life experience to qualify to be born

[@Ruth-os4mi]

Employer : You lack experience. Employer : You're overqualified.

[@shroomer3867]

Employer: Sorry the position's been filled

[@errrzarrr]

Damn if you do, damn if you don't

[@tee228]

Employer: you are an exact match and for that reason, i'm out

[@LIVdaBrand]

😂😂😂💯

[@alyssajones4368]

Been there, done that.

[@lololol80204]

We need to ban ghost job postings and jobs they are hiring internally. Make it illegal. You cannot auction something not for sale, so why is it ok to post something not truly available?

[@irtwiaos]

They can't ban that cause US immigration system literally for all intend and purposes require ghost job posting so employers can sponsor their employee for legal immigration and permanent residence. You need to bark at immigration reforms changing it to a points based system like every other country first if you don't want ghost job postings.

[@nicklarson3962]

Not sure if I agree. Let's say they place a fake job posting, for some managers idiot cousin. The hiring manager may still hire someone with more experience than the idiot cousin

[@nagi9004]

Agree its a waste of time applying and doing assessments only to find out the position was never actually available to you

[@aldproductions2301]

I'd like to see the requirement that companies have to look for outside hires just struck down. Look if you want to hire one specific person to fill the role, that's fine. No problem with that. Get the listing out of job seeker's ways.

[@TheRecklessMetalhead]

@@nagi9004 Indeed and Snagajob. Both are terrible job sites and need to be banned.

[@RandomRay1]

The more insane part is entry level jobs requiring 3-5 years of experience even if it's for an administrative assistant position.

[@marcusbrown188]

That’s why I lie on my resume with someone ready to accept a call to lie for me.

[@RandomRay1]

@marcusbrown188 as tempting as it is, there's so much risk that comes out of lying on a resume.

[@AG-yc7vt]

The army requires 0 years experience if you REALLY want a job.

[@rogi827]

I applied for a job with the Texas Department of Insurance right out of college. Their entry level job required 5 years of experience. I got no response so I called them. HR lady said they require the experience. I said "ma'am your job posting says ONLY new college grads should apply, but you're telling me they should have started working in this field when they were still in high school?!". She realized the ridiculousness and said they'd review. They called me 6 months later to say they updated their job posting policies and offer me an interview but I already got hired elsewhere.

[@QuattroSG]

Marcus, Im with you there honestly. You got to do what you got to do. You need to play dirty or youll never get anywhere

[@KingLarbear]

People are leaving jobs because wages don't move unless you switch companies

[@αρτιαννα]

This is accurate

[@jondoe406]

This is usually the only way to get a raise

[@Jasmin.M-hz5ty]

If america had adopted yugoslavian and lybian model of socialism,now america could be land of true progress.

[@maythesciencebewithyou]

It's a problem they created. They offer significantly more to headhunt someone from another company, instead of investing that money to train someone new. And it doesn't even matter to them that the person they headhunted did something completely different and will need to be trained as well. They just don't want to give a chance to graduates, because they look down on recent grads.

[@distortedrain5624]

"Need experience? work for free!" Nice take CNBC.

[@abbyfrancesparker8738]

This comment needs more upvotes. Like wtf kind of advice is that. Oh we're so lucky that we can get experience so cheaply!!! Who's going to pay my bills while I work for free or for pennies so I can be the cheapest talent to win jobs on fiverr for 3-5 years so that I can finally get a job making a buck more than minimum wage while it costs 3 times that to live.

[@DAMfoxygrampa]

Why be poor when you can be downright homeless! Apply now while supply lasts

[@nascentcloud3740]

What do you think people did in the old days? You don't get a silver spoon for being born.

[@jb_19]

@@nascentcloud3740 The old days didn't have critical shortages of programmers and engineers. If you wonder why people don't want to work anymore, it's because people like you think labor should be given to employers for free.

[@abbyfrancesparker8738]

@@nascentcloud3740 Did you ever work a professional job for no pay? So asking for compensation for labor is entitled? I have a bachelor's, an associates, and certificates, I'm on my third career change, have worked since I was 16. Graduated top of my classes, earned scholarships, graduated valedictorian for one. My current career is becoming extinct and I'm smartly trying to start a new one. With all that I cannot even land an internship in my new field after graduating my program with high praise from my review board. Tell me one more time that I'm entitled for wanting a paying job. Cuz clearly I have not worked hard enough. Clearly I was given a silver spoon. Quite curious what your credentials are and why you deserve what you have. My guess is being born at the right time.

[@Caleb85164]

If employers don’t care about your degree, then they should remove it from the requirements.

[@zilith]

Legally they are supposed to be able to defend the requirement. However its never actually litigated.

[@thecommentjudgecharles1242]

Personally I've got into a high paying job by knowing someone who works there even tho I was barely qualified

[@podsmpsg1]

Definitely.

[@MrAntreaspaok]

there is shift towards "you dont need a degree" which is very suspicious to me....

[@akc045]

​@MrAntreaspaok its all a huge scam. College, work, life in general. We just have to play along with the shenanigans.

[@dropleaf8296]

“Don’t lose hope, just work for free and ask for less money” I hate you guys.

[@ArenaRat-xd8fu]

Its like they want slavery to return

[@Jahming14]

Bro I apply for a unpaid internship, and they even rejected me without a reason 😢😂

[@GabrielleTollerson]

SAME

[@elecman748]

"70 years of unpaid internship isn't that bad!!! You guys are lazy"

[@toddpacker1015]

I knew things were bad when they didn't want me to volunteer in my local thrift shop. Even working for free they have a problem with.

[@johnmorgan8471]

Dear recruiter: senior-level workers don't appear from thin air. Get off your high horse and hire a junior.

[@geoculus5606]

Don't you have a senior-level worker tree growing in your back yard?

[@danielmadera1144]

@@johnmorgan8471 they appear when h1b visas are a thing

[@bubbasanches4591]

We dont need more juniors.. they are dead weight.

[@nalublackwater9729]

Oh, but you have to be a senior-level qualified worker while being below 30.

[@invisibleloveone]

I went to a job fair after college and ask a person at a booth, "how do I get 3 years of experience? I am willing to be trained and grow with the company. She said sorry that's the requirement. I then asked how do I become a recruiter? She looked annoyed and didn't have an answer.

[@tobiasexarchopoulos721]

Let’s make one thing clear. Companies are removing college degree requirements to justify paying them LESS. This isn’t a celebration for the little guy whatsoever.

[@dzfenster5608]

exactly

[@sblijheid]

The good ol' nickel and diming from corporate America.

[@pnw_ritz4965]

tbh, I’d take this over the degree any day. at least, I don’t have to work twice as hard and have everyone’s same story of “I had to work 2 and half to three jobs just to pay for my college tuition”.

[@brandonthevisionary485]

I totally agree with that

[@LIVdaBrand]

‼️⚠️✅

[@Madman2429]

The irony, is that a lot of older employees that left these openings had none of the listed things either.

[@TheBondisReal]

THIS IS SUCH A GOOD POINT 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🤌🏾

[@axnyslie]

The most absurd requirement I always see is 5 year minimum experience using proprietary software exclusive to that company only.

[@ellicesanchez3194]

I have seen this too on City of San Antonio government RFPs. They so totally just want the incumbent to win. No point on wasting time bidding on those contracts.

[@ninabeena83]

I was literally about to comment this same thing. And, what do you know - I’m also in San Antonio and was just on the CoSA site last night rolling my eyes to the heavens at the absurd requirements for some of the roles. How exactly would I have city/dept specific experience using your software and knowing your city govt policies if I haven’t lived in THIS city that long? Forget my years of experience using other ERP programs or the ability to grasp a similar software package quickly as I’ve done before - basically don’t even apply if you’re not already a city employee. Ok, bet. On to the next 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@novanoskillz4151]

@@ninabeena83 even more funny, im in san antonio as well (stone oak). Im a web developer who was just laid off from Lackland. Im looking at their new job postings.. they are asking for 5 years of experience with a coding language that was literally just released only 2 years ago. It’s like we’re in the twilight zone or something. This is ridiculous.

[@angelm9635]

It’s because they aren’t actually hiring. They want an excuse to overwork their current employees and save on labor.

[@thepinoyboomer]

Sounds just like a job posting at oracle...

[@elrondes1]

They put the title "entry-level" so they can pay entry-level wages, but they are actually trying to hire experienced people. It's just a trick word they use to push wages down given the job market oversupply of labor, and fewer positions. There aren't a lot of places actually hiring entry level/new grads in this market, why train a new grad when you can hire someone with experience and pay about the same?

[@wynton921]

“Entry-Level” also suggests that there is hierarchical format where that positions ranks under mid-level and senior positions. There is no trick in that regard, just terrible hiring practices.

[@FirstnameLastnames]

Which is why we need to unionize and fight back against this b.s.

[@wynton921]

@@FirstnameLastnames who is we? You have to be employed somewhere and start a committee with your co-workers before you can form a union…

[@erbiumfiber]

BUT...not TOO experienced, otherwise, you are...OVERQUALIFIED!! You need to have EXACTLY the experience that they want, not the they tell you what that is...

[@jacqueslee2592]

The economy will shrink because people will not be buying anything.

[@jamesglenn7027]

I don’t understand why people refuse to acknowledge the fundamental reality that employers refuse to invest in their employees. Employers want to be able to hire people directly off the street, fully fledged, fully trained, and fully socialized into their institution. They don’t want to train anyone to have the skills that are necessary to be successful in the particular job in question. Look at their existing employees- don’t train them if they have a missing skill set! Hire someone new and then figure out a way to fire the person that has the missing skill set. Doubly true when technology changes affect the job. Don’t train your employees to adapt to the new technology. Fire them all. Then hire some new person off the street that needs five years of experience for an entry-level job.

[@Gazer-x5s]

the problem is that without a job, employee can't have children = less consumer which is harmful to coporate in the long run

[@bubbasanches4591]

Just means you aren't as good as whoever got hired.

[@bernaclischurchill4463]

When they do train the new employee, in most cases, the employee quits and moves onto another job. Thus a waste of time and money. I saw this happen many times, and it is very costly and time consuming, and employers are tired of getting stuck.

[@ozarkrefugee]

There used to be a time when employers hired and wanted to train the new employee so they knew how to do the job right. All that has vanished over the last 20+ years.

[@CyberMachine]

@@bernaclischurchill4463 This happens because companies do not give raises anymore.

[@zacquelinebaldwin2555]

This system is dehumanizing and discouraging imagine growing up poor and being told all your life “you’ll be able to afford it when you’re older” you get a degree which you were told was a stable career field and then you can’t get a jobs for years after you graduate

[@flowzo75]

Sounds exactly like my friend. Black guy, stem degree, over 15 years with no engineering job. Came out of college with 2 years experience from co-op. Professional interviewer.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Anyone who states "work hard, you'll win" is lying. Without coin, connections, crews, clout, computer code, control, communities, and opportunities... you ain't NOTHIN'. It do be what it do be. That's how mankind rolls; no exceptions.

[@Jacosmi]

@@flowzo75I just graduated in engineering. Most of my friends (CS excluded) had jobs lined up.

[@thecommentjudgecharles1242]

Trade school much cheaper and teach skills forget college

[@santostv.]

Engineering degree with no jobs that’s sus even for you guys in the states

[@hessZL1]

Job hunting has to be some of the most demoralizing and depressing activities ever. I genuinely wanted to off myself when I was hunting for a job a few months ago. For what it's worth, I didn't land a job through it. I landed a job through a buddy of mine.

[@jessielivermore1826]

I feel you! Glad you got a job.

[@lilpiga_3]

Once I’ve seen this video, I started to check comments immediately. SAME! This is so frustrating to find a job, I hate all of this process. However, when you finally receive your long hoped-for offer, your expectations may do not math with the reaility, I.e. problematic colleagues (nothing else than a human factor)… so happy that I’m not lonely with the issue! Also, there’s one more of my fav points at seeking jobs. It’s much more difficult to be from a non-English speaking country because it’s a must skill almost in every company, even if it’s a local business😂 At the same time, English is not obligatory in your country and most of the population do not speak English :)

[@Ddeath.Eaterr]

I’m at that point rn

[@018milliondollarbaby]

Yes! 75% of jobs are gained through networks.

[@theyoftheravens]

I've been trying for months while im between jobs, watching my bank account go down and down while the bills keep coming. Moved thinking that I'd have a job, ended up not, and then I got very seriously ill at one point (terrible reoccurring bronchitis to where the coughing was microtearing muscles), which made it so that all I could do was try to breathe and struggle to feed myself or sleep. Which just made the employment gap that much bigger. And I've gotten interviews, and then all denials, and while I've had a couple friends be like "at least you're getting interviews!"....that doesn't help, it just makes the rejection that much more personal. :T And then sometimes recruiters that you were actively working with just. Ghost you entirely, even when you try reaching out with voicemails and emails. Trying to keep up hope is f*cking exhausting. I've got a zoom interview on Monday, and I'm hoping that I get the job this time, perhaps I'll try really emphasizing skills per the video. Wish me luck y'all. o7

[@petedawg]

I took a cybersecurity bootcamp and got an industry certification. I looked for jobs for a bit, but I’d have to take a $10k+ pay cut, and they all wanted 2+ years experience. Anytime people cry about how there’s a shortage in an industry now, I consider that the industry isn’t paying enough or is treating its workers poorly.

[@Atned]

This hits the feels so hard, man. I'm on nearly the exact same boat. I've applied to hundreds of jobs by now, and the few interviews that I do get are absolutely ridiculous. I'd make less than what I do for a living right now, which isn't even in the same field, and they want me to relocate to the other side of the country in under two weeks with no relocation assistance whatsoever. To make matters worse, hiring managers put potential employees through a gauntlet of interview rounds only to ghost you at the very end of it. It's incredibly soul-crushing and depressing to look for a job these days. To me, it feels like companies are fishing for fresh talent who can put out the same quality of work as a current company employee, but for considerably less compensation.

[@GabrielleTollerson]

exactly

[@bubbasanches4591]

Bro, your comptia cert is useless in cysec. We dont need more skids and noobs in cysec, become an actual hacker and you'll be valued if you do good work and actually contribute to the industry. You cannot go into cysec without years of dedication, its not surprising that bootcamp and new grads can't get hired, it's because they don't add value to companies

[@pamelqtaylor8335]

I think this is a code word for we want HB1 visa folks not homegrown folks and this is how we get away with it legally.

[@DeadCat-42]

H1B perm process wasted so many days on jobs that would never hire an American. Got to the point id ask if they hired H1Bs and if they did I just told them that I was only interested in serious offers or I just didn't bother to apply. I tossed my engineering degree in the trash, they have flooded the market with cheap labor.

[@keylanph]

It’s funny that CNBC is essentially putting the blame on the young workers instead of the system that failed them. Out here telling recent grads that they need to take internships and lower their pay requirements just to get an entry level job. I recently left an “entry level” position in which I was running an entire 200 square mile service area for a company. I was making 55k and required to work evenings and weekends on a regular basis. They listed my position on indeed for 46k… 9k less that they paid me. Needless to say, they did not fill the position and they lost the entire market. I’ve since started my own business and have grossed $130k and net 70k so far in 2024. Know your worth .

[@Rexvideowow]

I think it's time for workers to stop dancing to the tune of these lunatics and start their own businesses. Once thing that companies really don't like is competition.

[@AssBlasster]

Yeah let me, a new college grad, just try and open a business on my one credit card while holding student loans...

[@MonsterJuiced]

I hope you see your boss one day and he finds out how well you're doing. I'm sick of these businesses acting like it's the 50s still and trying to get away with paying someone internship wages for full-time upper management responsibility type of work.

[@mikeydude750]

@@Rexvideowow how exactly do you start a business with no capital, experience, or support lol

[@mikeydude750]

@@Rexvideowow it's also funny that you think the world can just be nothing but "entrepreneurs" starting their own businesses someone actually needs to /do/ the work instead of being the business guy

[@terrellbradshaw3504]

So they don’t want to train people for a job just to see them leave for another job. Ok, understandable. However, if these people are adequately compensated via wages and benefits, most people will stay exactly where they are at and try to move up. Employers have continually tried to find ways to offer less and less to employees but expect them to stay loyal to that company. That’s completely absurd! A lot of large companies will kick an employee to the curb without a second thought. And they wonder why we have these issues.

[@qatarworldcupwinnermessi]

Tell them what they want hear. I only know HTML, but I was able to find work because I became HTML programmer 😉

[@qatarworldcupwinnermessi]

*senior HTML programmer 😉 😉

[@DiamondFlame45]

We know that you make more money by switching companies than staying in one. Does anyone stay for a company with that long these days because of layoffs and inflation?

[@DarthFurie]

​​@DiamondFlame45 I was gonna say this also, many jobs show that they don't value retention because they don't give good raises. But if they listed the same job to new prospective employees, they'd offer more for the same position to new people than the ones they've retained. Job hopping because more of a mainstream thing because it's often the fastest way to increase your income while doing the same type of job with the same type of qualifications

[@DarthCyfe6]

You can even boil this down to basic math. No one wants to be at a job where you at best get 1-3% increases in your wages. Many times that 1-3% is merit based too, which is absolutely insane because inflation averages 2% a year in normal years, as the economy is designed to do. You are effectively taking a pay cut every year when your wages do not get at least a 2% increase to match inflation. When you can increase your salary anywhere from 5-20% by just changing jobs, why wouldn't you do that? If you want to keep employees, then at least give a 3% increase to match inflation, and then a merit based increase on top of it.

[@novanoskillz4151]

Burger king cashier Job Listing Qualifications - 25 years of work experience, but you cant be older than 21 years old. - PhD required - Must be able to code Ai - 5 years supervisory experience - NASA experience desired but not required - Must have performed 11 BBL surgeries within the past year. - retail, mechanical, and legal work experience required Hours: 2pm - 6am m,w,f 8am- 10pm t,th 6pm-6am sat 8am-8pm every other sunday COMPETITIVE Compensation $7.45/hr No benefits 5 pto days every 2 years 1 free large fry per work day

[@MoneyMan28]

c0nd0m, problem solved

[@kinseylise8595]

Bold to assume they'd put the wage on there. Competitive is all they say until they send the offer letter (and telling them the law requires them to say it just gets you rejected as "not a good fit").

[@novanoskillz4151]

@@kinseylise8595 isnt that the truth. great observation.

[@MarjorieParaison]

Chileeeeeee

[@vl1180]

Don’t forget the Burger King psychological tests you must pass!😅 I failed it

[@burnanddiscern]

"Be the cheapest candidate" incredible advice. Poverty wages so you can get experience. Hurray!

[@Olive-765]

Pro tip: be born rich so your parents can cover costs while a business refuses to pay you!!

[@smiechu47]

Even if you work for free they still have to delegate someone to train you and that's time and money lost (to them).

[@smrk2452]

That’s why they like the illegals

[@warweasel2832]

Truly a race to the bottom.

[@courtneyshannon2621]

ZipRecruiter is such an awful site. They tell candidates that you will get updates, but they don't require employers to do that. They say that you won't have to fill out forms on the employers pages, but you do. Then they surprise you with questions when you apply. I'm not surprised that ZipRecruiter would also give horrible advice.

[@Cballin]

imagine paying the insane tuition fees only to finish and realize that nobody wants college graduates

[@youtubesucks1499]

Well, have you seen what the colleges are producing? Who wants to hire an activist?

[@matthewcaldwell8100]

Imagine being smug about it as if companies who fetishize experience only as a gatekeeping measure don't hurt even their bottom line by extending the time it takes to find candidates, eroding any concept of broader commitment to an organization, or ultimate winnowing down the applicant pool to people who will leave the field within the next decade

[@xiaowei4912]

vast majority of decent white collar jobs require a bachelors degree

[@exile8110]

yup thats me it sucks

[@fj06carnone]

Imagine not going to college and being at an insane disadvantage for the rest of your life during literally every single interview. The entire video wasn't about not wanting college graduates, it was about how even having a college degree isn't enough.

[@TomReichner]

I'm a fairly accomplished photographer, but when I recently looked at a job posting on LinkedIn for a photographer, my brain was overwhelmed when I read the insane list of requirements. There were at least 8 things on there that applicants were required to have that I hadn't even heard of before. And I have been doing photography for 18 years and have had over 10,000 of my photos licensed to various publications. I honestly wonder if the company actually wanted to hire a staff photographer, or if they just made up that job posting to make people feel bad about themselves, because there's no way that any human anywhere has all of those things that they were requiring.

[@EmperorEdwardXIII]

How the hell you can get experience if companies are not hiring without experience

[@legobobafett5045]

Yes, The Bull$hitting era.

[@podsmpsg1]

Exactly. You can't. I've been saying that for almost 20 years.

[@kattz9051]

It's especially distressing when the experienced people begin to retire and there's fewer and fewer people to replace them because there's barely any training being done.

[@edwardduda4222]

Use closed businesses as references. They can’t be verified because no one can be contacted.

[@keelay69]

@@edwardduda4222what does that say about your work history when every company you are involved with cannot survive? Plus no one actually calls, you work history is apart of your tax records. They can see all of that with a simple background check.

[@TheBlademan-]

Everyone went out and got bachelors and masters degrees like they told us too and now all of a sudden education isn’t being factored into the hiring processes. I hate it here lol

[@Corgiking521]

It still is factored in. They just put the applications without degrees into the garbage immediately. Now you have to compete with more applicants with degrees though.

[@user-gz4ve8mw9l]

Wrong only those who could afford it or qualified for loans did. I couldn't even get loans in my mid 20s over a decade ago from the government. So I ended up with just an associate's degree. Many have no degree, or ran out of funds partially through college.

[@Olive-765]

Its really interesting how now that we have the degree and associated debt they claim to not care about that. Hmm who could Possibly stand to profit from all of us having more skills, less money, and then claiming we don't have any skills so we deserve less pay.

[@Xander.Non.Beta.Male_23]

As long as you are not a white male then you'll find a job anywhere.

[@SargentD4]

@@Corgiking521it isn’t. Experience beats out a degree in any tech field. They’re hiring for results not your personal accomplishments

[@spotlight7743]

Did my bachelors and masters in a STEM field. Got a job in a fortune 100 company and was laid off after working there for 2 years. Been on the job market for 8 months and applied to over 3000 jobs and received 2 interviews that have ghosted me after the interview. At this stage, I have given up all hope and started working in a middle school as a janitor.

[@Bombstark]

May luck find you soon 🍀

[@ragul3204]

Is this a joke?

[@sv2697]

What's an even bigger joke? I got ghosted by my own company and they wanted me to train the guy they ghosted my application for.😂😂

[@realkyunu]

At least tell a believable lie. You probably did not send out 13 applications per day on average.

[@FirstnameLastnames]

I am so, so sorry.

[@Thepippinator2]

To anyone that is looking for a job right now, whether it’s an entry role or senior, I salute you. I wouldn’t wish job searching on my worst enemy.

[@jennifertarin4707]

It sucks worse now than Pre-pandemic I think and salaries are lower

[@llleewwwisss]

I was unemployed for almost a year after being laid off late 2022. 2023 was a very rough year and I had to move city to go to the job I eventually got employed in. Was one of the worst experiences of my life

[@Thepippinator2]

@@llleewwwisss I’m sorry to hear that man. I’m glad you were able to get something going though!

[@Helaw0lf]

It sucked during the recession then and now for me. I hate it here. It should not be that hard to get employed as Gen Y or Z. I do not know how anyone autistic or deemed disabled is supposed to thrive or survive in the USA now.

[@JUVI9596]

Back in my day we had to “pound the pavement”. Nowadays no one goes anywhere in person. Online only applications

[@azisles02]

I saw an IT position once that required 10 years of Windows 11 experience, when Windows 11 was out not even 10 months. I reached out to the company and asked if they meant Windows in general or specifically Windows 11. When they confirmed 11, I mentioned that requirement is impossible as it hasn't been out long enough to have even 1 year experience. The rep I was speaking told me I don't know what I'm talking about and I must not know anything about computers (been an IT for 10 years and used a computer for over 30yrs). They got a nice glassdoor review for that one.

[@lobstermyname4477]

Whats the company's name? I'd like to avoid them

[@FirstnameLastnames]

....😳 HOW ARE THEY NOT EMBARASSED?!?!

[@quentinludy8352]

That is actually bogus what the heck

[@aubreymorgan9763]

I heard about similar in tech field requiring 10 years experience on a program that only existed for 4 years

[@PaulMcCannWebBuilder]

@@aubreymorgan9763 Famously DHH, the creator of Ruby on Rails was told he needed 10 years of experience in it, when he had created it only 4 years before.

[@leeselset5751]

A lot of these companies have a rude awakening coming. The average boomer retired last year, which means a huge chunk of the experienced workers in any given field are now gone, never to return. These companies will have little choice but to MAKE themselves willing to train a new person, and the price of that experienced labor is about to explode. Yes, this is inflationary. No, it won't matter who is president (with regard to this at least). But it's necessary if we still want to have a jobs market at all.

[@williamking4649]

“Oh look at that, A.I. has come just in time to get rid of the rest of our workforce, shareholders are gonna love this”

[@incubus_the_man]

Automation will replace them. Look at the Walmart checkout area. Almost all of those registers were replaced by kiosks. That didn't just replace workers, it replaced managers and back room people. They also replace HR with employee portals

[@davesynth3860]

I’m seeing in real time they’re confronting this issue in a different way: outsourcing. It used to be for manufacturing; now it’s IT/Service jobs.

[@ozarkrefugee]

@@incubus_the_man This is why I quit going to Wal-Fart years ago.

[@nalublackwater9729]

@@incubus_the_man Exactly! But... when 80% of the workforce is unemployed, without income and poor, who's going to have money to buy stuff? Where do these corporations think their customers come from if not from the very workforce they are impoverishing?

[@ItsGarrus]

“Unprepared for the workforce” can be translated to “Will quit if pushed to do more without an increase in pay”

[@unconventionalideas5683]

That's not really what they mean. What they mean is that the skills they have are not the ones companies care about.

[@sblijheid]

There was a video out there where recent grads say what they graduated in. All of them, useless in the real world.

[@zoroark567]

​@@sblijheidright, because they surveyed every unemployed college grad in the world, so it can't just be a biased sample, right? I have one of the most "in demand" degrees. At every step I've been told "this is a great degree, it's amazing that you were able to do that." Even from people I know in industry, "we can't find enough people with those qualifications!" Yet I've been applying to jobs in my field for TWO YEARS and haven't gotten a single offer to use my degree. I have to look at over a hundred listings to find one that doesn't have multiple years industry experience as a hard requirement. The one interview I did get, I was passed on for a candidate that had experience with their specific technologies. Saying that it's just because of the kinds of degrees people are getting is not just extremely reductive, it's plainly untrue. It doesn't matter how 'in demand' your degree is. Unless you have deep connections in your target industry, getting an entry level job is 99% luck.

[@iceman9678]

@sblijheid the big lie is to go to college and get a degree....any degree because implicitly they're all equal. Meanwhile, independent HVAC tech pulling $200k a year after 5 years of experience and going out in their own.

[@sturner973]

Job listing: We're hiring for an ENTRY level position. Qualifications: •Must have at least 20 years experience •Must have doctorates degree •Must be willing to bring work home if necessary. •Must have a minimum of 3 Superbowl rings, nothing less! •Must be able to work on weekends and sacrifice family life! (Forget your kids and wife!) Schedule: Monday-Sunday 7am-6am next day (1 hour life break) Compensation: $25,000

[@ashleyshim2078]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@podsmpsg1]

Exactly.

[@Bradimoose]

They actually told me this for a Marine Insurance Underwriter position that required 5 years experience in Marine insurance. Like super specialized shipping insurance. I asked for 100k, they said it's entry level and pays 60.

[@podsmpsg1]

@@Bradimoose Wow.

[@mf3087]

14k salary

[@MrJ691]

As a note, companies no longer see internships as "work experience"

[@MzImperfectCrys]

I figured that out and took it off of my resume.

[@danadomino]

For sure. I eventually removed it from my "work experience" part of my resume and moved it up to the Qualification Summary paragraph at the top of my resume. In the last sentence of the paragraph I added "Internship experience includes X company, Y company, and Z company."

[@eyeseer1]

Unpaid internships just become slavery.

[@vl1180]

😅not only did you work for free now you can’t put the work experience you did down?!🙄

[@manifresh1264]

After completing my Master's in Computer Science, I struggled to find an entry-level role because they said I lacked experience. Now, with a PhD and over seven years of experience, I'm considered overqualified. It seems impossible to meet these organizations' expectations.

[@bullpup1337]

experience in business, not academia… phd does not help much there just makes you expensive

[@irregulargamer1352]

Technically you still have your masters. Your application for entry level should have left out your phd

[@yoshu4221]

I have 6 years of experience and the positions that I have the exact skill requirement for require 15 years experience. I apply anyway and get screened out by ATS because companies can't be bothered to read resumes anymore.

[@elmobolan4274]

Just lie about everything-this has always helped me-those corporations are lying to you, too...

[@noona514]

Government Tech would pay you well with a PhD. Look up Government Scale Salaries plus different steps.

[@jaycool9480]

I’m sorry I can’t afford to be the cheapest candidates when I live in the most expensive region in the country. When rent is $2500-$4K a month, there’s no way people can work for cheap. Even worse, entry level jobs requiring 3-5 yrs experience like that doesn’t make any sense.

[@Rexvideowow]

Businesses chose to expand within cities where there is no land. People are forced to rent. Rent goes up. Employees demand more pay. Businesses could have expanded in smaller towns, but "muh transport costs". People forget that many of these businesses started out when the cities WERE just small towns. They can manage just fine. Employees on the other hand, cannot.

[@jaycool9480]

@@Rexvideowow then it is what it is and then trying to offshore positions outside the US won’t make a difference either cuz people overseas ain’t stupid either cuz they know the value of their work. Companies can’t manage long term especially when they keep laying people off

[@sblijheid]

@@jaycool9480 Not the Indians. The highest paying job is that of an engineer, which pays $350. You can't compete with them.

[@MusicMike747]

Writers of the job “requirements” have no idea what they’re doing. They demand masters degrees, 5 years experience, and the ability to speak 8 languages for entry level pay.

[@Engagenumberone]

And then on top of that - employers aren't willing to train anymore.

[@mr.edwvrd]

They want us to have a phd, 10+ years of experience, multiple certifications, security clearance.

[@nascentcloud3740]

Why would they? They can get someone trained for the same price as you that's not trained. It's a no-brainer.

[@deidresable]

Blame meetoo for that

[@officialspock]

why would they? when they can hire migrants with lots of experience with better skills than muricans and much cheaper lol

[@Vhlathanosh]

@@officialspocker, you do know migrants eventually catch on and move away because they realize they can get paid much better elsewhere? People don't like being exploited.

[@mtdewramen]

Companies : we want you to have a masters degree, and 20 years experience to be a barista. Also companies : The kids these days are lazy and don't want to work.

[@ganzon9173]

You forgot that minimum wage pay.

[@canavaro_1208]

Second one, is true😂

[@inmortal131]

@@ganzon9173exact I comment the same 15$ but you need 20 skills and 10 certificates 🤣🤣 damn

[@danielzhang1916]

they have gone too far now, no wonder people have stopped applying, they only want the perfect candidate/resume

[@senmcquire]

Starbucks requires a masters degree.? Are you serious.? They all seem like a bunch of idiots.

[@testgorilla_official]

Those ‘hidden gems’ you’re trying to hire aren’t hiding from you. They’re pushed under your radar by hiring practices that value backgrounds, qualifications, and experience working for household names over real skills and talent. Thanks for mentioning our report!

[@Dee-x9f]

This!

[@GhostAssault323]

If you don't ever want to train someone for entry-level jobs, then you will eventually run out of experienced folks to hire from cause no one is willing to even train new people.

[@logbia7k608]

@@Isaac-eh6uu Nah that won't work as every country will eventually do this.

[@llj4338]

This is why the automotive repair industry is so hell bent on keeping people.

[@ozarkrefugee]

EXACTLY!!!

[@musicandpoetry_8]

The laziness of the employers not wanting to train , then bye no one wants to work for you

[@s.r6331]

HOW ARE PEOPLE SUPPOSE TO GAIN THE EXPERIENCE/SKILL SET IF THEY'RE NOT GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY 😤

[@100MilesEast]

They should invent time travel machine and get the experience retroactively.

[@omartrachen6794]

It is literally insane.

[@podsmpsg1]

Exactly. I've been saying that for almost 20 years.

[@RaeRaesRaveReviews]

according to NBC you are supposed to take whatever unpaid internship you can and work for free just to get the experience.

[@paulmaxwell-walters8861]

the recruiters, not acting in any broader societal interests, would say "Not My Problem!". That's just unregulated capitalism.

[@summertime69]

I do not understand why its so hard for leaders to understand that it is in their best interest to train their employees in house and provide a working environment those employees want to be in. If theyre afraid to train because the person will leave in 3 months, it sounds like they need to figure out why people leave in 3 months. I know loads of people who will happily be loyal to a company that treats them well.

[@marcopolo3109]

I agree. What type of job sites would you recommend for finding employment?

[@ozarkrefugee]

Hell yes!!!

[@dazlederose]

Exactly, they need to figure out WHY people are leaving

[@kris.listen748]

But this is common sense which most people don't have. If the decision makers aren't able think of a way to train staff then is anyone there qualified and knows how-to get the job done…..?

[@maythesciencebewithyou]

"We won't waste money to train someone. Let us instead headhunt for someone working at another company and pay him 20% more than our own employers. Why are employees so disloyal nowadays, I can't imagine why they would job hop"

[@jongreen9250]

"what do you mean I'm not qualified? I just graduated from a 4 year college." Most companies already have someone in mind for the job, they just need to open the position to everyone with no intention on hiring applicants.

[@cory4548]

Yup... exactly, my old boss use to do that. He said it was a formality to make it look like it was equal but in the end they already knew who they wanted.

[@rachelm9350]

@@cory4548 that happened at one place I was at, they first posted the job for a higher education requirement, then lowered it so their "pet" could get a director position.... she never went to grad school.

[@joesmith3590]

No most degrees provide little to no jobs skills. So the company wants someone with some actual training.

[@sarahjames927]

Also, it comes down to who you know not what you know

[@nascentcloud3740]

You've obviously never hired anyone and probably never will.

[@mariaortiz7610]

I used to work for a staffing agency and we would hire for light industrial jobs. Our clients didn’t want to hire people without warehouse experience because they didn’t consider it entry level warehouse work. They thought you needed experience for picking and packing boxes…they would also fire people if they found out they were homeless. These companies are evil

[@DevoutSkeptic]

College Graduates: "Give us entry-level jobs!" Employers: "Skill Issue."

[@tuck295q]

"Over qualified"

[@Memoreism]

Lol exactly

[@AK255.]

Maybe u don't fit that role keep looking lmao

[@Fluffy_Penguin727]

@@AK255. Nice bait lil bro

[@brass427]

This is nothing new. Been that way for decades.

[@vijayswamy1250]

The ridiculous checklist for any job application is how a lot of people in HR keep busy and justifies the existence of their jobs.

[@ArenaRat-xd8fu]

HR is so useless

[@johnnyparatrooper1326]

HR’s job is to make sure they don’t accidently replace someone important. By all appearances they simply want the cheapest option they can fire without feeling bad or feeling the pinch

[@lunam7249]

all evil, begins and ends with HR

[@aaminahaykal-iyare8181]

Some companies post jobs with no intention to hire. They just want to collect resumes.

[@michaeld4861]

I wonder if they are using those resumes for other purposes too? Like perhaps selling the data on them? Or just trying to figure out ways to make the hiring process more torturous to further depress workers.

[@Frredster]

Everybody wants 3-5 years of experience for an "entry" level job, but nobody actually wants to train people to get that experience. Everyone wants someone else to train employees, as if every company is special enough to warrant that. And they're worried about hires going to better jobs after that training. If the company/employer was truly that special, employees wouldn't do that.

[@nicklarson3962]

Try a temp agency then

[@Corgiking521]

Because they know you’ll job hop to the next best thing so there isn’t a point to invest into training

[@Frredster]

@@Corgiking521 My point is, if the company/job was as special as they think they are, there wouldn't be "the next best thing." They'd already be that next best thing, and people wouldn't leave them.

[@JDL816]

Ninety years experience to get a piece of paper to tell you need ninety more years experience.

[@IvanTales]

this is a strategy just to say this to the person that is selected "we are going to give you the opportunity but we are about to pay you less because you don't fit the enitre criteria ".

[@codyfernfan6274]

I’ve had this happen multiple times this year alone.

[@SevenFortyOne]

I have a 2 year degree and 30 years industry experience in my field. In 2018 an aerospace company poached me from a competitor and gave me an engineering role and title based on my experience and demonstrated ability. I did my job well for 4 years with excellent yearly reviews. Despite my good performance, In 2022 the company demoted me to a "technician" for clerical reasons stating that I couldn't be an "engineer " because I don't have a 4 year degree. My day to day duties did not change one bit, only my title and pay were changed. At the beginning of 2023 I left that company and went to a non-aerospace company that hired me as "principal engineer" based on my years of experience and it has worked out well so far. 18 months later my previous company has still not found anyone with suitable skills to fill my old role and former co-workers are still calling me weekly for advice. I'm REALLY glad that more and more companies are looking at skills and experience rather than education for many roles.

[@platedlizard]

Start charging them a consulting fee when they ask for help. That's what my dad did when he retired and he made almost as much as a consultant for his old company in four months than his yearly salary for the entire year

[@MrTwenty6point2]

It really depends on the company. I do quality engineering with a BBA(fell into quality, wasn’t what I intended to do). That company would only consider my role as quality engineering specialist. New company allows me to use the Engineer title but the org chart still says technician. Reality is that in some circumstances there are limits to the use of engineer in a title. It has become more lax in regard to IT roles. Which tbh, I disagree with. A programmer shouldn’t really be called a software engineer if they don’t have a formal engineering background. All that said, at the end of the day it’s just a title. You should/could make the same as a senior technician.

[@kinghenryxl1747]

Corporate America out here demanding PhD's for customer care.

[@JustAnotherNamelessGuy]

Wrong. Mfs be asking for a doctorate degree to be the Walmart greeter.

[@pcpxbotendorastermace9948]

​@JustAnotherNamelessGuy Oh no, it goes beyond that now. Now its a galactic degree from space.

[@dav0n]

Meanwhile starting pay 40k. Rent requires 3.5 times the rent. wtf

[@NYRyder1983]

The most unrealistic thing there.

[@sblijheid]

I've seen a job posting before, requiring any Bachelor's degree for a secretary position that paid minimum wage. That was in NYC.

[@mojave7604]

Imagine scrolling through the list of requirements, PhD, 5 years experience, proficiency in this and that, etc. Only to get to the pay section and have it say $23 an hour...

[@soapa4279]

I legit saw something similar for a Staff business analyst. It listed requirements for damn near a CFO position, and at the end it said $18 an hour bwahahaha

[@codyfernfan6274]

@@soapa4279I saw a position requiring a Master’s degree that paid $20/hr. In New York state.

[@jgadinet221]

And then if you have a PhD and apply they come back and say you’re ’overqualified’ so no job for you

[@zuniga325]

Some apprenticeships at Google already require this.

[@sheh.9163]

Don’t have to imagine it… that’s exactly what’s happening

[@tc2241]

Not just entry level, I’m a 10 year vet in my field and sometimes I’ll see them asking for things that sound like they pulled it out of a hat.

[@theRunel0rd]

I feel hopeless in 2024. I genuinely feel like i will never improve my financial siutation and this morning i applied to over 15 jobs. Idk - im tired and worn out and i feel like quitting life

[@JDL816]

I already did and accepted having no floor in my bathroom 🙃 😊

[@gametabulas]

Same.

[@TheRecklessMetalhead]

Same here in Northwestern Nevada, and it's brutal.

[@Star-um9cz]

I’m sorry about what your going through.. 😞

[@missmia196]

You're valuable, keep going every day! You will make it.

[@kylesmith2145]

As a worker, i'm not inherently interested in upskilling for the sake of the economy. I learn new skills all the time that are interesting to me, but if a business wants me to have a skill that is useful to them, they need to pay me for it

[@Olive-765]

9:35 For real! I thought this quote was stupid as hell, considering company's proffits have been doing so well. They have the money, they don't want to share it.

[@ozarkrefugee]

Hell yes!!!

[@nassdj8493]

Entry level: Starting pay $15 😕 Benefits after 12 months 4 years experience (required) Master degree (required) Contract: 9 months 😇

[@MitchellLencioni]

Wait so companies haven't invested in building skills in their workforce and retaining those trained workers and now they want to blame workers and have the government foot the bill for skills acquisition that workers have to do on their own time? Sounds like they're asking for indentured servitude

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

What gave it away

[@NightSide1349]

@@Novastar.SaberCombat The low salaries perhaps

[@paladinsorcerer67]

Add on student loans, and you have a true wage slave.

[@ozarkrefugee]

We are living in an age of corporate slavery.

[@staytuned.263]

The reasons you left out this video: corporate greed, wanting to keep younger people poor, leaving everyone low and dry with out assets!

[@steveguillory7568]

More likely, supply and demand. If there’s 2 applicants for every posting as opposed to the. 7:1 several years ago, then of course employers will be more choosy.

[@prolific1518]

​@@steveguillory7568 you have supply and demand backwards. Go back to econ 101

[@hyper_based]

What about university greed? Educational institutions are making their student take on tens of thousands of dollars of debt just to get a piece of paper with no actual marketable skills and they have zero responsibility to place their students in jobs. How is this ok? Our educational institutions are failing us...

[@steveguillory7568]

@@prolific1518 Really? Greater supply of applicants for every job opening. Tell me please what am I missing?

[@bobroberts2371]

Corporate Greed, the default position of a person that wasted their life away and wants to blame others for the outcome.

[@amdl270]

Training is an issue too. Most employers will only want you to do work directly relevant to their projects and not help you upskill anymore even if it would help them in the long-run. They say it is your responsibility while also giving you no free time or money to get a training because you're working 3 people’s jobs and struggle to meet the high cost of living

[@zacquelinebaldwin2555]

I’m tired. I’ve been applying for jobs for 8 months

[@blk1735]

In which field?

[@danieltrevizo5973]

I’ve been applying for 6 months. Nothing yet and my unemployment runs out in a couple of weeks.

[@MoneyMan28]

​@@danieltrevizo5973 Not enough jobs for everyone, so we have to cut the population from 8 billion to only 800 million people through one child policy

[@sahusanalysis7661]

Listen there are jobs but you finding what you developed skill. There are other job opportunities but you don't want to look them?

[@TheRecklessMetalhead]

Do you mean high-paying jobs?

[@keanuxu5435]

Companies: We want you to work like a CEO but we’ll pay you like a minimum wage employee with no experience

[@berniepina860]

CEOs don't work. They collect free money off the backs of the people who do work

[@llj4338]

CEO’s don’t work anywhere near as hard as minimum wage employees.

[@fractal2483]

"work like a CEO" bruh

[@KILLERONROAD]

I promise you, I work harder than the CEO of the company I work for. I'm exhausted at the end of the day and haven't been on a vacation in 25 years. The CEO goes on multiple vacations a year and seems to always have plenty of energy. The guy is a lazy bum.

[@pauljoseph3081]

Ironically, the higher-ups and execs who demand these skills are nowhere near the qualities they demanded 👹

[@mojave7604]

I love it when people with high level degrees and equally high level pay tell me to just "work for free to get experience"

[@brodriguez11000]

Become an artist. ;-)

[@la6136]

@@brodriguez11000There are plenty of artists making six figures with online based small businesses. We really need to stop with the starving artist stereotype.

[@Atned]

Yeah... so how the hell does working for free get your bills paid again? I've noticed that it's either older folks who spew out that kind of garbage, or more affluent younger people who don't ever really have to worry about these things us peasants call bills and rent.

[@wowyok4507]

@@brodriguez11000 no ai will screw 95% of artists over

[@vl1180]

You need a job on the side because your internship doesn’t pay. So 2 jobs😂

[@zuniga325]

Another issue is that entry level positions have been outsourced overseas while senior positions are statewide. Then they wonder why not many people don't have experience.

[@billygrant9147]

You don't need to be an economist to see the problem. Employer want ridiculous requirements for jobs that don't need them and they don't want to pay you or provide benefits. Because of those employees use them for experience and for a bullet point on a resume and leave. They waste all this money advertising, interview, and onboarding people just to lose them in less than 2 years cause you don't want to pay/promote/provide benefits. It's silly. Speaking from an IT perspective it's worse. Every environment is different. Different technology, software, policies, etc. it doesn't matter how much experience you have there is going to be a leaning curve. So why do you need someone with 10 years experience if you have to train them up on your specific environment? What they should be doing is recruiting straight out of high school. Teaching employees how to do thing in their environment the right way. Then pay them as they move up and take more responsibility. If you can afford to let them walk and hire someone else you can give them a raise. The raise is cheaper too.

[@Victoria-d3m3b]

💯

[@paladinsorcerer67]

I think hiring out of high school was the old school way of hiring. But then they required college degrees, and with that tuition at a state school went from free to requiring loans to pay for. Then they decided it would be cheaper to stop training employees and hire workers who had already been trained at competitor companies. When they all moved this way it got worse, spiraling downward in a vicious cycle of ever more skills needed, but not trained for.

[@theracer6882]

I am applying for software engineering jobs and have found very few jobs which say just a computer science degree is fine. Most of the entry level jobs have insane work experience requirements. Some say master's degree preferred. It's crazy out here right now.

[@shalehausler4383]

I have a degree in software as well, and nope. No one hiring at a pay rate that is even remotely acceptable. I will stay in my current field of work that required no degree and pays a lot more than software is paying now. Side note, major public company purchased my company a few months ago, and as the most senior person in my group, I don't qualify for our now entry level position, because I don't have the degree they want. I also don't qualify for the training position at a customer's location because I lack the qualifications, but I started their training program?

[@user-sf9gs2pg1b]

Yeah, that’s why I’m planning on just going into trades. Was into programming, but now I’ll just leave college and do it as a hobby. With trades, I’d get paid to attend class and for the apprenticeship, unlike with college where I’m doing so much work yet have to live off my family or loans. Where I live, they actually pay really well for trades. Not planning on being a lineman, but it’s like $150k annually starting salary. $150k to learn and be an apprentice. Very dangerous though, local apprentice lineman died recently. Worked for like 3 months. Highest paid construction worker I saw was like $800k annually (proven with paystub) as a foreman, but that’s like the incredibly high end tons of experience job. It wears your body out, but I figure stretching before work, exercising, wearing knee pads, etc. could substantially lower the pain.

[@Suavocado602]

​@@shalehausler4383 I'm sorry y'all have to put up with this market. I used to push people towards software development because it happened to work out for me. I recently helped a new grad get a job and it's definitely a different environment. If you're looking for advice, try to look for Dev specific job boards rather than things like Indeed. You don't need to meet every requirement, just enough to prove you won't take much of a senior engineers time to train you.

[@kattz9051]

I'm a software engineer that graduated during the pandemic so I've experienced the highs, lows, layoffs, and everything in between in this current business era in the span of 4 years. I had research paper publications, internships, projects on my resume, everything under the sun but was rejected from so many applications for not having enough experience. I explicitly asked a recruiter once if they didn't count my, at the time, 3 years of internships and 4 years of research work. They said no, they only wanted professional full time experience which is next to impossible to get while being in college. Even if the internships have you doing the same thing as an entry level SWE and literally learning on the job just for way less money, they don't count that as professional experience. Even the company I was interning for was like "oh sorry we don't have an opening to promote you to right now", forcing me to job hop because why pay me the salary of a full time engineer when I'm doing the work for $13/hr? It's such bull all around with these corporations.

[@enemyspotted2467]

⁠@@user-sf9gs2pg1bThe trades are a lie, too. At least manufacturing is. I’m skilled machinist/technician, a lot of jobs i’m applying for want at least an associate’s, if not a bachelors, for 20 bucks an hour. I started working in a machine shop when I was 16 and still in trade school. I’m the guy who actually has 10yrs experience at 26, and they still won’t hire me. All my classmates I graduated with are in the same boat, not one of them would be able to live without support from their families.

[@WeylandLabs]

Becuase the majority are "Ghost Jobs !"

[@youtubesucks1499]

I don't hire GenZ. I do hire GenX. The job isn't a ghost job, it's just I will not hire GenZ. So I imagine they feel ghosted

[@frostydog860]

@@youtubesucks1499 that’s age based discrimination, and it’s illegal Edit: turns out it’s only illegal for 40+ individuals. 🤔

[@frankxu4795]

@@frostydog860 Yet there is no way to find out. You cannot force people to testify against themselves. And the reason for this multiple layers of interviews and lengthy process is exactly to shield companies from legal actions. Good luck with trying to punish the action, even if it is illegal.

[@youtubesucks1499]

@@frostydog860 Prove it. I will interview a GenZ, they weren't the best or most qualified candidate. We will keep your application on file for 30 days and if a position opens up and we think you would be a good fit.... we will call you. EOE doesn't determine who is most qualified or who will be a good fit. After all these protest on college campuses, I am right. Unhireable.

[@RedAndTheCompany567]

@@frostydog860 He's right tho🤷‍♀️ I'm a millennial/Gen-Zer and I agree with him NOT hiring Gen-Z b/c they hurt the job market. I'm a country girl so I was taught how to work. My generation absolutely sucks (except for the country ones like me💯💯💯)

[@bigbune]

So the problem is employers.

[@Fludd3588]

Man, where the hell was this article when I graduated from college 11 years ago? That first summer I applied for 200 entry-level clerk jobs, I got nowhere. There were no calls, no email responses, no invitations to interviews. I thought I was going crazy. This could have saved me five years worth of arguments with my family as to why I couldn’t find a job those first few years. “Requires a Bachelor’s degree with 2 to 5 years experience.” What a cruel, terrible joke! I can’t help but feel bad for the next batch of young people poised to graduate this month with little to no preparation for the REAL world, particularly those who are less privileged and have no access to skills based training. While I appreciate the transparency in this video, the hiring practice of employers is shameful!

[@MeltedPearls]

It's so real. I only got hired because I am a bargain, read that as extreme depression, desperation, credit going down the tubes, and seriously wondering how to go on...so I took almost $20K less than my field merits.

[@jprevatt]

I could pen a memoir based on this very thing. But getting anyone to actually CARE?? Whole other animal.... Anywho, I'm sure the market is oversaturated with those too

[@grumpycat9065]

They don't feel absurd, they are absurd.

[@tylerharris4392]

I find a crazy how they are just now doing a story on this, I've been dealing with this b******* since I graduated in 2015, this is literally one of the main reasons why young people have an extremely difficult time just trying to participate in the workforce

[@THEMilkSHAIKH]

From an IT perspective, postings are so focused on having experience with tools. Mind you there are hundreds of tools out on the market, and normally are learned through experience working the job. Not to mention, they want entry-level applicants to already know how to use everything right off the bat. Making sure the candidate understands important concepts should be priority, not knowing how to use niche 3rd party tools you can learn in a month.

[@gilfernando7623]

I agree. 100%

[@schmoab]

Yes this has been what I’ve seen in some software development jobs. Stuff I’m 95% qualified for, I get no callback because of some package that is just a content management system isn’t on my resume. The front line people don’t know how to screen.

[@moniquesmith6055]

Same. I'm a Sr. QA Analyst. Although most of the jobs on the market are automation based and require you to basically be a developer, for a role that didn't require it, I was declined an opportunity to interview because I didn't have X-ray experience. It's a freaking Jira plug-in for test management similar to Zephyr Scale. It's not that hard to learn how to use 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@MarjorieParaison]

I say this for all jobs … thank you for having some sense

[@bubbasanches4591]

IT is filled with people who should not be in this industry. 99% of IT workers don't know sysinternals or how computers work in detail.

[@sakshichoudhary7039]

In short words employers are becoming greedy and money minded in terms of employees and these mentality is against humanity.

[@blktauna]

what is this becoming? This has been going on for ages

[@os2958]

@@blktauna yes but its getting much worse as corporations gain power against labor

[@steak5599]

@@os2958 No exactly true, it has been seesawing back and forth. During the Covid years and right after it, it was tilted toward labor, now is back to Corpos. But realistically, an Employer is going to want an employee that would at least generate X amount of money over what the employers paid them though.

[@hyper_based]

Yet educational institutions can make all of their students go into tens of thousands of debt and have no responsibility to upskill their student bodies with actual marketable skills and place their students in jobs? Everyone always blames the employers and nobody blames the educational institutions that are failing all of us...

[@GreyRock100]

​@@steak5599 That seesaw is broken

[@jddj8943]

It's the incompetent employers they don't have a process for onboarding new employees, so they want the new employees they hire to know everything so they don't have to train and answer any questions. It's crazy how those employers with all this requirements after you get hired you discover the director, manager, supervisor has no idea on how to perform the job they hired you for. Because promotion is based on relationships not skill set

[@suspendedhatch]

When a company lists requirements that they could teach you in less than two weeks, less than a day sometimes, then you know this is a company that has no interest in investing in its people. No interest in retaining them down the line. And likely not competent to teach the skills they specifically need. So there’s no one there for you to go to for help when you need it.

[@QuattroSG]

Ive seen job listings in the medical industry wanting bachelors+ with 2+ years experience but only wanting to pay what comes out to $15-16 an hour. I was making $21 an hour driving a forklift while in college no experience required. It really looks like there’s no future in this country, I’m leaving while I can.

[@s.r6331]

​@forgingstrength6119depends. Companies will pay for ur Certifications once ur hired within your company. Mine does.

[@GHO5tMod3]

Forklift jobs near Columbus Ohio are paying 27.50 am hour

[@user-gz4ve8mw9l]

How did you get a job driving a forklift with no experience? Even 8 years ago I got fired after being hired for such a job. Upon them discovering I had no prior experience.

[@TheRecklessMetalhead]

Here would be 17-23 USD hourly, and this is in Reno/Sparks, Nevada.

[@elecman748]

Jobs requirements for an entry level job: 1. Must have 10+ years of experience in a technology that has only existed for 5 years. 2. Ability to speak and write fluently in 10 different languages. 3. Must be available to work 24/7, including holidays and weekends. 4. Must have a PhD in a highly specialized field unrelated to the job. 5. Ability to lift 100 pounds repeatedly throughout the day. 6. Must have experience managing a team of 50+ people. 7. Must be proficient in using outdated software that no longer exists. 8. Must have a personal spaceship for intergalactic travel. 9. Must have won at least one Nobel Prize. 10. Ability to predict the future accurately. 11. Must have a verified social media following of 1 million+. 12. Must be able to solve complex mathematical equations in under a minute. 13. Must have experience working with ancient artifacts. 14. Must be able to communicate with animals. 15. Must have a photographic memory and recall every detail of every conversation. $13/h no vacations

[@ozarkrefugee]

also: your bowling shoe size and the birthday of your ex spouses grandmother

[@la6136]

This is why I started my own business a year after graduating college. The entry level jobs all required 2-3 years experience but were only willing to pay $15 and with multiple rounds of interviews. HR employees are so clueless they wouldn’t know actual talent if they saw it because they don’t do any of the jobs they are hiring for. Now I make $60+ an hour using those same skill sets they wouldn’t hire me for, working for myself.

[@commentbot9510]

How did you know where to start with running a business?

[@missmia196]

What is your business?

[@sblijheid]

@@commentbot9510 Just google your fingers out. You'll get the answer eventually. I know my answer sounds vague, but I know that many people don't know the basics of basics of running a business, so if I gave you a list, you'd probably be more frazzled than if you googled everything. I suffer from the curse of experience; I don't know how to explain the stuff to a noob.

[@ramblincapuchin9075]

I was going to make a comment about this. HR appears to be a gratuitous portion of the economy. Jobs designed to make people feel a sense of belonging. They can pat themselves on the back for knowing that they did good work today I'd love to be able to get paid for checking emails and swiping right on people I didn't care to talk with

[@Turnpost2552]

No dets just flex

[@BarrettBiggers]

Employers are looking for a senior level position for the entry level price tag!! And in reality all they truly need is someone who wants to learn fast and works well /communicates well with others...Every job requires SOME form of training/adaptation when you begin. It's not like entry-level people are hired and literally start major projects within the first day (and if they expect that then that's a major red flag). You think clients want to hire a company that uses entry-level employees on their projects without any training or time to learn? lol

[@gio.orbit5498]

why can't people like you with common sense be in charge of hiring. I swear Miami is full of idiots at all levels of management 🙄

[@kinseylise8595]

You're right, this is just what my internship is like. No training and asking me questions about products from three years ago on the first day. I learned fast and they wanted me to be their entire R&D department on minimum wage, in addition to helping produce their current products, manage inventory, make graphics because the boss can't understand working spreadsheets, etc. I don't work outside my paid hours so it's fine but what they need is a team of like 6 permanent employees properly trained in this stuff, not 1-2 constantly changing undergraduates...

[@jeffreythomson3789]

This is such a ridiculous, disingenuous and one-sided, pro-business take on this issue. The whole video basically boils down to "too bad, this is just a natural phenomenon, what are you doing to do about it" as if this wasn't an intentional design of our economic system that the government could absolutely improve through regulation but are actively paid by special interests to ignore. Oh, you can't get a job? Well, try harder - take an online course, accept a low salary, and maybe that will eventually let you get a better job. You should be ashamed of yourself CNBC. This is such absolute drivel.

[@x77punk77x]

CNBC is by corporate shills, for corporate shills.

[@snoreproductions]

Right? Pretty difficult to afford any kind of classes when you have no job.

[@mba321]

It's CNBC, of course they are pro-ruling class. Read the room and consider the source.

[@michaeld4861]

Yeah and 99% of online courses are scams anyways. Everyone and their mother is selling coding bootcamp or some other type of job skill courses online now.

[@markreynolds9888]

Employers don’t want to train employees on anything. They want them to arrive fully formed. Why? Lots of reasons. The employer doesn’t know anything about what you do so they can’t train you. The employer sees money spent on training as a waste because they think you will leave at the first opportunity for more money. They might have to pay you more to retain you. They are too lazy to train you. If they try to train you, you will know that they don’t have a clue how to run their business. Lots of reasons.

[@KNRS927]

Basically boils down to corporate greed

[@podsmpsg1]

They're too picky, too greedy and too stingy.

[@kinseylise8595]

The first reason is all I can imagine for my current job. The permanent employees can't do unit conversions, they could NEVER train someone to do all the work they have interns do. We just end up with the last intern training the new one as best he can in his last week in a never ending cycle. And because it's a business, we can't halt production and R&D for a week so I can organize the files we have, so nobody will ever find any file again once it drops out of the "opened recently". I'm amazed that this place makes any money, and I would love to know what they'd do if an intern ever quit without notice (now nobody know how to do anything and they can't train a new intern to even find a file).

[@chuckhiggins4940]

People don't get how bad the economy is. They aren't doing this by mistake, it's because so many people are clamoring for the same jobs that *they no longer care* about filtering out a large number of applicants. These companies have more applicants than they know what to do with. They simply don't need any more people, so they're treating applicants like they don't need them.

[@RioMendess]

College graduates are unprepared for the workforce is a CRAZY sentence, WHY go to college then? We learn USELESS stuff in college and high school and we pretend that we don't. We need a complete renovation of the education system, but we don't do that because no one wants their degree to be less valuable, even though they already are.

[@ThePurelutz]

the whole point of college was not to prepare you for the workforce, it was just to steal your money. :P

[@ma.2099]

The first two years of a bachelors degree are just ways for schools to drag money out of people before they drop out. The last two years are where you “learn” stuff but a student is force fed so much information and then has to brain dump it after a midterm right before they get another round of insane information from 5 different classes. One of which might apply to their future job. Masters degree is where real learning starts but even now, masters classes are being placed in the same room as under grads in order to maximize money a school gets to having less classes needed to pay professors while the only additional requirement is maybe some extra 20 page paper.

[@paladinsorcerer67]

Capitalism is not fair, because its based on the freedom of companies to select whoever they want, based on whatever they make up, based on the current state of the market. The burden of supporting workers is outsourced to the workers themselves, unless somehow the market dictates otherwise. So if you want to wait around long enough for market conditions to change, maybe you will get lucky.

[@ozarkrefugee]

Colleges will never admit they are a scam. They do not teach much of anything needed in any profession.

[@David-ud9ju]

@@ma.2099 Yeah, maybe in a pointless degree, but in a real degree every year is important.

[@raf5.13]

Meanwhile, almost all skills can be taught. Thats the corporate version of fast food/instant gratification culture.

[@frankxu4795]

Dumb assessment. If so, everyone should be able to get a phd

[@babosanders5223]

@@frankxu4795 if school was accessible and not "sell-a-liver" expensive, so many more people would have PHDs. So yes dude, everyone should be ABLE to pursue a PHD.

[@Saliferous]

​@frankxu4795 the barrier is mostly price and time. So yeah, about 50% of people probably could get a PhD if they had those.

[@babosanders5223]

@@Saliferous its like these guys dont think lol

[@raf5.13]

The video was clear about companies wanting knowledge/experience and not necessarily a degree. It just sounds odd that everyone wants ppl to have the knowledge but won’t take the time to train them.

[@charlesg.1207]

Being the "cheapest candidate" is horrible advice. Dont de-value yourself or the job role. It's modern day slavery. The next thing will be is these horrible employers won't want to pay what the job role should go for.

[@johnnydoe6696]

It's so that they can claim they're unable to find an employee in the US and can therefore hire an H1B worker.

[@kinseylise8595]

IMO we should just let companies fail. No more hiring talent from outside the country unless unemployment in the US is below x% (let's have someone smarter than me pick the number that makes sense). If unemployment hits x% then sorry, guess you have to pay an American $120/hour to pick tobacco or go bankrupt, who cares?? I suppose we'd have to figure out how to not have food farms fail so that people wouldn't starve, but I don't see any other immediate concerns honestly.

[@netizencapet]

Yes, that thought also crossed my mind immediately.

[@CASADELSOULVIDMIXTV]

I’ve been working as a graphic designer and art director for 20+ years and the amount of software programs I need to be proficient in is absurd.

[@smiechu47]

Can you list them?

[@DRNT940]

They don't "feel" absurd they are. And if the labor market was so shallow, the requirements wouldn't be so high.

[@noname8791]

Class of 2022 here. My advice for new grads is to look for government or quasi-government jobs. Positions tend to be less competitive and the hiring process more bearable. The pay might be slightly lower than private sector but the benefits tend to make up for it. Also its early in your career so its not like you cant make jump to the private sector. Its rough out there so good luck.

[@ozarkrefugee]

The gov't jobs have impossible demands/requirements these days.

[@vincin8682]

requiring experience for entry level jobs should be illegal or there should be some other generally accepted name for jobs without experience

[@manoftomorrow5987]

I don’t know what you’re think when they say “entry level”…think an Accounts Payable Clerk. They’re the lowest level for the accounts department, but we’re still expecting them to have experience in Accounting and Accounts Payable task and duties.

[@ThinkBeFree99]

​@manoftomorrow5987 so how's does 1 get experience in that?

[@manoftomorrow5987]

@@ThinkBeFree99 by having someone give you a shot years ago before all of this now…

[@ThinkBeFree99]

@manoftomorrow5987 so your saying there's a chance 😁 😁 😂

[@kinseylise8595]

@@manoftomorrow5987 If the lowest level of accounting requires accounting experience, then how does one get experience in accounting? Even if you say "by doing accounting for department x" how did you get the main skills to be hired by department x? Somewhere down the line someone had to hire a person who didn't have skills because we don't come out of the womb with job experience. Even if we don't call that job "entry level", we should call it something and it has to exist. I've been working since I was legally old enough, usually two jobs at a time and I still don't have enough years of experience for jobs that pay three times my rent (you must make three times the rent to be allowed to apply without a guarantor). If my parents disown me or retire I can't sign a lease, and I live forty minutes from work (and work in R&D) so I'm not trying to live in NYC as a burger flipper. A mortgage would be a laughable suggestion, even though I don't want to rent at all.

[@astriverofstrengthandknowledge]

I swear networking is legitimately the only way you’ll be able to land yourself a job that properly satisfies your criteria.

[@suspendedhatch]

It’s a mistake to hire a resume. Hire a person.

[@bobroberts2371]

@larrys4618 Problem is getting past the person that is throwing the resume into the trash because they either don't know what they are hiring for or are lazy. .

[@Corgiking521]

@@bobroberts2371some jobs get 100s of applications. Resumes need to in the garbage their not interviewing everyone.

[@GunnarsGames]

Hire someone to write your resume, well worth the money.

[@GeorgiaMade404]

@@bobroberts2371Nobody is throwing your resume in the trash. Resumes go through a ATS first then it filters out which resumes matches the credentials set by the hiring manager. HR is only there to facilitate the process.

[@bobroberts2371]

@@GeorgiaMade404 said " Resumes go through a ATS first then it filters out which resumes matches the credentials set by the hiring manager. " The auto sorting system is what is throwing the resume in the trash based on what a human listed as parameters. My background is in the Electro - Mechanical / Engineering Tech / Engineer sphere. My last job was as an engineer being paid engineer scale. If I apply for a tech position I am overqualified , if I apply for an engineering position I am under qualified as I lack a degree. Any of the jobs I've gotten were had by getting to someone in the engineering dept and bypassing the hiring system. Hiring managers / HR are none to happy about this.

[@vistastructions]

A programming language came out a month ago. The job listing wants 1 year of experience in it That is the problem. Recruiters have no idea what they're looking for

[@benu_bird]

They've always been doing that. I remember when I was looking for a new job in 1997. I came across a job posting that required 5 years of Java programming experience. Java came out May 1995. Plus there was the case of a person who developed a new programming language I believe. Six months after it launched, he saw a job posting that asked for 5 years experience in it. For a laugh he applied for the job-he was rejected.

[@MyCamilla1989]

I think it's a deliberate action to make applicants feel imposter so they won't have the confidence to negotiate a higher salary.

[@anthonyedwards4146]

As someone who went to college for a career change this is the most depressing thing I ever watched . Spent 8 years in hospitality management im a year away from my degree and your telling me I’ll most able to be stuck

[@danieltrevizo5973]

It’s a mess; been applying for 6 months and nothing. I fear I’ll end up homeless.

[@1zAlfonzo]

Its gotten so bad, my friend started to sell parts off stolen cars (strikers). I don’t condone it, but it was needed for his survival. Its sad.

[@jimbojimbo6873]

Nothing more annoying than my boomer uncles thinking it’s a matter of simply not applying enough. Back in the day when they literally physically handed a CV in

[@gordonoboh833]

Bro just described my life.

[@steveguillory7568]

Hmmm, were you there “back in the day”? Because as I recall, there was tremendous inflation and recession in the early 80s. Unemployment rate was higher than now. But yeah sure, everything was sunshine and rainbows as you say.

[@os2958]

Well back in the day for the boomers might have been in the sixties an seventies for me and yes I went around and just applied when I was a teenager and used physically handed a CV in my 20s, emailed in my 30s. It was easier for us boomers no doubt although it wasn't easy. The rise of the super rich and corporations is what changed

[@McTugmutton]

I thought the key was giving the hiring manager a firm handshake?

[@steveguillory7568]

@@os2958 perhaps if this younger generation hadn’t flexed its muscles with the great resignation thinking that would last forever, companies might be more willing to offer training. Why invest in someone if their attitude is I’ll jump ship after training.

[@NoahSteckley]

Hiring based off skills may sound reasonable, but it seems to be like textbook washing the outside of the cup. Short sighted facile interpretation of people as what they are now instead of a wealth of potential. The degree was supposed to be a proxy of ability to LEARN, not capability. The position isn’t static, the job requirements aren’t static, you want someone who can morph into whatever the company needs in that department, not someone who fills an exact momentary niche perfectly. The lack of investment in each other has been mutual.

[@Re-bl1li]

I know it can be a difficult, frustrating, depressing, and a lonely experience to seek for a job. I just really hope the best for everyone looking for a job and a livelihood. Please make sure to stay physically and mentally strong. Find ways to recover quick. Don't give up.

[@codyfernfan6274]

Thank you

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Unfortunately, it doesn't work this way.

[@autumnlaudato]

I was let go from my job last month. I've been applying to new roles ever since. I have a Bachelor of Arts degree from a good university, 6 years of experience, and no luck at all so far even for the most mediocre entry level positions. Most jobs will reject me due to lack of specific certifications or skills. Then, I'll apply to more lower-level positions and I'm told I'm "overqualified" for them and get rejected more. It feels like a nightmare in real life.

[@user-sf9gs2pg1b]

If you’re getting the overqualified response, if it’s due to having a degree, I’ve heard some people have had luck omitting their degree from their résumé. If it’s due to work experience, consider lowering the amount of years or omitting that as well altogether.

[@djm2189]

Bachelors of arts.... That's the problem. The fact that you had to say from a "good" University tells me you feel like you are owed something. Besides the top 3, the university you attend means NOTHING. I graduated as a computer science from a HUGE party school. Now I'm 29, WFH, earn $120k. I've switched jobs a good bit, never has anyone cared about the uni name, just that I have the degree and can prove skills. What's your actual major?

[@kindsplash21]

​​@@djm2189I'm about to go to college myself and my passion is graphic and photography but I'm deciding to major in stem as I have a better change of getting high paying jobs and plan to major in my passion on the side do you think it's a good idea ?

[@djm2189]

@@kindsplash21 yes! Many times passion does not pay the bills. Passion should always be the side that once you're good enough and make good money off of it you could then do it full time. Unless you're rich you MUST master a highly valuable skill/degree. STEM will always give you a job and stability which most need. Get your degree, minor or on the side pursue your passion. Eventually if you're good enough your passion can be your main source of income. Let me be honest, I don't necessarily love my engineering degree, I like it. But it gives me stability, a high paying job, endless recruiters, and very comfortable working conditions. Thus my job makes me love my life which in turn was due to my degree thus I guess I do love my degree since without it I'd probably be struggling. Sorry for the long answer I just wanted to explain all the different aspects to it as a real individual that came from a poor background. Thanks and good luck!