Personal Mobility Aids (PMAs): Why Are They Speeding Out Of Control? | Talking Point | Full Episode

[@hermesz_]

Thing I hate about PMAs are that the riders would always horn at you to get out of the way, be it a narrow sidewalk, a shopping center entrance area or the neighborhood shop walkway Food delivery riders will complain that the regulations would affect their rice bowl but if they hit someone, the person's rice bowl would be affected if they're unfit for their job.

[@dd-dd2co]

Their sense of entitlement is disgusting.

[@Jackson0000]

High speed on walkway or sidewalk is very disgusting and do not care people life...

[@deebusoh9023]

be careful of your feet. their wheel is like a bike size..

[@Beowulfsg]

I think a gentle beep would be ideal to warn others they are coming up behind them, but some are fitted with loud horns sibei annoying and entitled

[@deebusoh9023]

@ techno song somemore or loud Chinese old pop song..

[@q.ueencard]

Thank god for Talking Point to cover this issue. This is getting a nuisance everyday because I'm stepping out of footpaths meant for walking for PMA riders who will begin honking non-stop before zooming past and sometimes making crude remarks. I've stepped onto the roads, I've stepped onto muddy grass patches. This deserves a total ban. And to start first, ban all food delivery riders from using PMA for food delivery. I also wanna add that NONE of any other countries food delivery services have had deliver partners using PMA for delivery - so don't use food delivery as an excuse that customers want our food fast, hence PMA is the reason to use them.

[@bummers]

Thank Talking Point for covering this issue. God has nothing to do with it. Just sayin'

[@GeeWhizzzz]

its about time right?

[@SirThanksAlot9001]

​@@bummers lmao it's just a figure of speech. Relax please.

[@moonstars6279]

If 3 pmas in hospital waiting counter where to move lor.. Some ferrying the whole family is this correct

[@celestialstar124]

Pma is desgin for disabled. Those able bodied can use pmd instead. Pmd is banned on footpath 4 years ago now those selfish people abuse pma.

[@kengwaimak2129]

If PMA is to return mobility to those with mobility issues, it should be limited to walking speed. Normal people don't "run" everywhere we go.

[@dd-dd2co]

However, our government doesn't care.

[@ckokloong]

I used to ride my road bike on pedestrian walk for 6 years. Cycling speed never more than 15 kmh on places without people. If there is pedestrian, drop to 5kmh to overtake pedestrian. IMO, speed limit for PMA should be less than 10 kmh at pedestrian walk.

[@mini4dailytech982]

@@kengwaimak2129 it's time our government realises they have to be responsible for our safety before a serious accident happens

[@InferMel]

​@@mini4dailytech982Where have they failed to do so? Aren't these regulations made to combat this issue?

[@durianboleh888]

Precisely

[@TheTinyRedDot]

If Singapore can ban chewing gum, Singapore can ban PMA, which is not only a nuisance, it is an everyday hazard for hundreds of thousands of pedestrians, especially senior pedestrians. The new ruling should be end of 2024, not end of 2025. Thank you CNA Insider for highlighting the PMA issue.

[@yongdac]

Can't even ban smoking, can never ban PMA. PMA got people benefit from it, someone "win". Who win for smoking? Nobody "win".

[@NewmaticKe]

You can't differentiate ban and enforcement

[@yongdac]

@@NewmaticKe Enforcement is the worst part of SG law.... Hardly see any

[@sdqsdq6274]

dont be a cork la , there are seniors who cant walk , true disable who want to learn a living , tiny red dot dont forget you will get old one day , lol

[@ianhomerpura8937]

Oh great, here come the carbrains. If at all, Singapore should allow more electric PMAs, especially at a time when gas prices have skyrocketed. Just require them to have licenses and speed limiters, just like what the EU does. Dedicated lanes alongside bikes would be great, like those sidewalks with dedicated bike lanes in Tampines, I guess.

[@bozolopo]

melissa says its safer to have PMA than ebike because of their fear of the road etc. like cmon, dont you mean its safer for YOU while you endanger other pedestrians? thats just selfish

[@jamescorrigan6063]

New to Singapore? Self-centredness is ingrained.

[@DontTouchMe-t9h]

@@jamescorrigan6063 couldnt agree more .. goes both way ..

[@DySun]

true, most of these people are just plain selfish. PMAs should be banned except for those who are truly disabled.

[@celestialstar124]

Pma is desgin for disabled. Those able bodied can use pmd instead. Pmd is banned on footpath 4 years ago now those selfish people abuse pma.

[@prn_Melatonin]

Isnt this just singaporean behaviour?

[@fatcamper]

PMA should be banned, except for people who are certified to be unable to walk unaided for more than 10metres. This is what such devices were invented for, not for people who claim they "cannot walk long distances". Or as a car that can drive on footpaths to transport their families.

[@DySun]

and I wonder why LTA isn't doing anything about this.

[@tsuikyit5511]

PMAs should be controlled so only genuinely physically impaired people can use them. Sick of going out and seeing these snooty uncles and aunties on their PMAs acting like they deserve the right of way

[@susanlee8242]

Also the younger ones are riding on it too.

[@NupplesRampage]

We all grew up walking and taking bus to school. Nothing has changed over the decades. I used to wake up at 5:15am, shower, change and leave for school at 5:40am in order to reach at 6:30am to have my breakfast/ do last minute homework in 30mins. I do not see why her kids should be treated any different. Heck, just cycle to school if you wish to save money on transport. Healthy lifestyle. PMA should be reserved for disabled/ elderly who have trouble walking and at a speed of 6km/h (Still questionable since a regular healthy human only walks an average speed or 5km~/h). If they need a PMA, they definitely do not have to reflex to stop/avoid an accident going at 10km/h. Besides, 6km/h is way faster than whatever walking speed they have if they actually need a PMA.

[@Fightingchronicbattles]

As usual, the abled want convenience at the expense of the disabled. Just like lifts or handicap toilets. They just abuse it for convenience not for accessibility. 😢

[@ianaamdan]

​@@Fightingchronicbattlesright?! At times it has become the norm for them that they see walking as abnormal. One of my acquaintance rides a PMD everywhere. I bumped into her at a plaza. She asked if i scooted over. I said i don't have a PMD/scooter. It's just a 5+minute walk. Her reaction "wah you walk so far?" Note; the distance from her house to that plaza was roughly the same distance as to my house. And she "couldn't" simply walk.

[@Fightingchronicbattles]

@ its sad that convenience triumphs over simple joys like walking. Some people dont even have that privilege 🥹

[@shawntan7878]

Morning very healthy, But afternoon sun not healthy, So best is travel by Car or PMA got sun shade along the way back to home.

[@Fightingchronicbattles]

@ see exactly my point. Abled using it for convenience and not for accessibility

[@liyxoxo]

that women is just plain lazy. it may save time for her kids however her riding the pma with that speed just increases the risk for other people

[@aki_tomato_]

She should just let her kids walk to sch. More healthier in long run.

[@dd-dd2co]

That's why she looks the way she looks.

[@Kasi-Natural-painrelief]

Yes agree that woman is totally lazy

[@manofthehour_]

The way she responded to Steve’s question makes me wonder if she didn’t actually hit something or someone before

[@dd-dd2co]

Hence her appearance.

[@ChristineTohXH]

PMAs are meant to be mobility aids, period. What other disputes could you have if you're an able bodied person? To the parent fetching your kids: There's nothing wrong with letting your kids take the bus, or having to wake up earlier - take the positive side of things that they can learn to control time on their own, take public transport, make conversations with other classmates while commuting, etc.

[@Fightingchronicbattles]

Thank you sm for this! I dont get why the abled are obsessing over an accessibility resource and wanna have a say over the minority. 😢

[@benwoo2631]

For that lady, please get a motorbike if she wants convenient

[@Fightingchronicbattles]

@ 💯yasss

[@ianaamdan]

Or get this, let them cycle if they don't want to get on a crowded bus. Even if it's raining, i've seen students putting on raincoats to cycle to school.

[@Fightingchronicbattles]

@ yea! So many solutions out there that the abled dont need to use an accessibility device until it becomes a hot tooic 🥹

[@MayMay-wr6pn]

It was a very difficult time to walk on the pavement when I had to pick my toddler boy from childcare. I had to carry him, take our bags, and have to move left and right to let bicycles passed me just cos they honked. So annoying. Abled bodied person should not be allowed to use the PMA at all.

[@DySun]

our pedestrian sidewalks used to be really safe. Nowadays, however, I need to look behind me every now and then to avoid getting hit by speeding bicycles and PMAs.

[@yacsf]

Footpath is for walking and not for electrical machine

[@Fightingchronicbattles]

If you dont realize yet, this is a mobility aid 🤦🏻‍♀️. What an ableist

[@Fightingchronicbattles]

@@user-jk4bx6zy1g stay an ableist and be bitter

[@90taetaeya]

A lot of people in singapore walk on the bike lane though

[@Fightingchronicbattles]

@ sorry trying hard to understand the link

[@SoulZeb]

This is actually the main difference between an MC and PMA. Problem is that PMA is slower, so they SPEED IT UP... Now they have an MC that can go on pathways.

[@seanjosephtan]

The excuse is stupid. They are clearly overweight and can lose weight by walking. But no, they feel scared in the road. But then risk scaring pedestrians on pathways. What rubbish. You put yourself at risk. Not others.

[@shawntan7878]

Is not about lose weight, Is about the convenience and the freedom to have a vehicle, I can feel her kids love it.

[@sekai3388]

@@shawntan7878 her future ITE going drug addicted kids are going to love their grab delivery jobs on PMAs too

[@cayt3r]

Steve: Would e-bike work? Speeding Selfish Lady: The e-bike is not convenient actually, it's not safe for them (the kids). And it's dangerous to cycle on the road. So you try to keep your kids safe by endangering the other pavement users??? I've experienced at least 2 PMAs speeding (at least 20 km/h) on the pavement with 2 to 3 passengers on it around Pioneer area and no enforcer in this ulu area. They're basically abusing PMAs by endangering other pavement users.

[@thLilJinx]

I feel so angry at the people they interviewed. Incredibly selfish.

[@jeremyliew1916]

This is surely one of LTA's biggest mistake. Allowing PMAs with no real way to monitor and enforce is a recipe for disaster. LTA tends to adopt a very very lazy way of policy making by letting the wpeople to regulate themselves. Human beings will ALWAYS find loopholes, 30% will be law breakers and chaos/abuse will reign supreme when unchecked. Our roads and pathways have become horrendously unsafe, thanks to LTA. Now, the Law Ministry is so overwhelmed they are letting first offenders get away with less punishment.

[@tinateh]

Can’t lay all the blame on only the LTA. It was a multi-ministerial policy. I have heard ministers say it cost too much money to enforce policies that go hand in hand with social grants if we are too strict. Also, no agency wanted that work. One of the MPs was against opening the flood gates if I recall as he was unconvinced with the ability of riders to navigate safely. He felt there had to be control mechanisms and certification to have access. So, while the healthcare certification tightened up, the larger environment was still lax and these vehicles are very accessible to the able population and cheap to boot with no regulation and no COE to pay. Back then in discussion with my counterpart, I warned about irresponsible vendors who would bring these vehicles in for profit. The import checks have to be enforced and actively monitor sellers and service providers who soup up the devices. If they can soup up cars and motorbikes, what’s stopping them from doing the same to every other kind of devices? You need governance in place. Public safety is the only reason you need to setup enforcement.

[@sabrisabtu2214]

@@jeremyliew1916 "horrendously unsafe".. maybe you best just sit at home. That way, 100% safe. No risk.

[@jonyq]

@@sabrisabtu2214 why are you here commenting on KZbin? The foodpanda order isn't going to deliver itself.

[@sabrisabtu2214]

@jonyq thats why.. get back to work and deliver my food

[@jonyq]

@@sabrisabtu2214dream on 😂

[@genysia6413]

23:33 “have a fear of cycling on the road” due to past accident but perfectly fine whizzing at a fast speed on the footpath, potentially causing an accident/trauma to normal pedestrians? If the driver wishes to go at that speed, go onto the road. In addition, I simply don’t understand why PMA/bike users feel entitled to honk at people to give them way on footpath. If they think pedestrians are too “slow”, they should ride their PMA onto the grass to overtake or simply go onto the road

[@middleground9024]

It's pedestrian path / foot path in the first place. I wonder why they feel so entitled .

[@notpillow6759]

Then bicyclists will start having the same problem you are having, cars are too fast which will result in accidents

[@zerodegreescelsius]

Well, seems like cyclists are moving to hog the road with cars...this frees up the cycling lane for PMDs, no?😂 Ofc not...PMD uses LOVE getting the chance to honk at pedestrians.

[@lokewaihoe]

Self-entitlement can be due to many reasons, such as ill brought up in the past, feeling lose out in life, feeling frustrated with bad health and etc.

[@letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo]

actually if everyone is nice a respectful , we wont have a problem , its ok to ring a bell to let the pedestrian know "hey im coming up, becareful"

[@lingeats]

illegal is illegal no questions ask. Thank you CNA well documentated

[@iljewels]

It's 2024 and bubble gum is still banned in Singapore. Election is coming. How long will it take the new leaders to tackle this issue?

[@An_dong_ni_]

Can we start the regulations this December instead of next? 😂

[@japonesque]

yeah i highly agree with this idea of regulations by end of 2024

[@JimJamJoo]

Last time, before crossing the road we need to look left and right first. But nowadays, before you walk along a walkway, we also need to look left and right due to PMA and eBIKE

[@Mei-tm3ug]

While alighting from a bus, must look left and right too. There are now Singapore Police posters telling the public to "Look out for oncoming bicycles/PMDs before you alight from the bus"

[@Creeperific]

Either PMA should be banned on footpaths, or limited to max 4km/h. There's a reason why it's called a FOOTpath and not a WHEELpath or ROAD. Footpaths or sidewalks are for walking not driving. Walking pedestrians should feel safe and not having to be worried about a VEHICLE (be it PMA or bicycles) hitting them just because they want to overtake the pedestrian. Those PMA users who are body-abled complaining about their lifestyle being affected without being able to use PMA should get a checkup on their minds. Bicycles are more tolerable because they are not motorized, which means there is less impact if they were to hit anything. I've seen too many machines tearing frail humans apart easily without much resistance.

[@lordsussyindustries2021]

Yeah... I see the parallel with mobility scooters (also PMAs outside of Singapore)

[@shadowhawk]

Just from watching this video, it seems that enforcement hasnt been executed well and people are taking the chance to try the law. Don't see the point of changing regulations if they arent enforced properly. It wouldnt improve pedestrian safety against those users who are intentionally avoiding the regulations.

[@Dominus_Potatus]

I think it is called socialization. It is useuful to introduce the law, bring awareness to the public so at the end of 2025, there will be no "I don't know that it is a law" situation. If you introduce a rule suddenly, it is assured that a lot of people will be caught which... is not the objective. The objective of the law is to regulate instead of catching and fining citizens.

[@kelvin.008]

Get the Opposition and non main stream media journalists to highlight these issues.

[@carlosmolina3850]

still there are some e-scooters roaming after midnight and my neighbor has this assembled motorbike which he is also using at night.

[@iljewels]

It's 2024 and bubble gum is still banned in Singapore. Election is coming. How long will it take the new leaders to tackle this issue?

[@princevaliant]

Problem is those that use PMA for lazy reasons, they will be permanently disable in no time as their un-exercised legs lost the essential muscles. This is especially true to elderly and heavy weight(big size?) individuals who have the ability to walk but feel too lazy to do so. They are adding problems to their still able legs, back and waist by getting lesser to no exercise.

[@Hosanna_zh]

Singapore has many injured their legs (bone/joints) during army national service. Not all are able to even afford a pmd. I prefer use such resources to build more cycle/pma friendly path. Before enforcement/laws, the gov should solve those having foot problem, including like cycling(weight on bike, not on foot in every steps), not swept it under carpet for those rich Enough to grab a car everytime they go out . Therefore isn't it's gov responsibility to made non -foot path for those having foot problem, not ban totally°.......or are these Singaporean only to be confined in home. Btw , not everyone can afford a pma. ° note! - most bike speakers that are pro banning and stuff , mostly are in expensive gears , bikes (few thousands!). With videos cycling in exotic non- traffic heavy, greenly countryside path. Usually not even a traffic lights to need "push" in every 1 min (or less) of cycling.

[@maggietan4278]

Most of the people I saw riding PMA are not handicapped. Not only they are fast, they like to play loud music and very rude by expecting people to give them way on a pedestrian path. Now the huge devices can be seen in the train when obviously some are not handicapped people. The train is already very crowded during peak. Everyone in the train got to give way and space to people who are lazy to walk. WTH.

[@DySun]

10:18 this tells you most of our PMA riders are not physically disabled; they just want convenience. LTA should be stricter in this regard. 21:42 no point having all these rules if the authority cannot enforce them. 26:07 our cycling infrastructure needs drastic improvement.

[@niu745]

Nowadays the PMA are so huge it is like electric scooter... These PMA should be banned from walkways!😡😡😡

[@kelvin.008]

Get 3rd party contractors to summon (since there is manpower shortage).. when there is no enforcement, there is no fear of laws.

[@laiang1016]

Certis Cisco is already doing that 😂

[@theachilles96]

You can see Auxiliary police at the pavements standing by . I’ve seen many times .

[@kelvin.008]

@@theachilles96 go to low SES locations at night..

[@kelvin.008]

​@theachilles96 at night too I hope

[@benwoo2631]

Cisco and Auxiliary police are just wayang, there is no strict protocol and most are there for deter present only. They should have quota system, where they will have bonus for every ticket they issues.

[@scarleto3231]

Omg! I hate to be rude but I hate more to see parents with zero common sense putting their children at risk. I am calling a spade a spade: The mother is a fine example of a bad parent. . No matter how careful she is, some things are just beyond her control. A child could suddenly run into her path, causing her to brake… or not, and with no seat belt and helmet, her own children be flying off the device and be injured seriously. Some accidents can be avoided if only people start using their brains. For the sake of your kids, woman, get off your ass and walk.

[@SpicksG]

Well said! Stop the nonsense NOW

[@LawrenceT76]

This episode raises an important discussion about how we adapt to new technologies like PMAs and their place in our daily lives. While these devices offer convenience and mobility, they also highlight the pace at which society is moving-often too fast. Slowing down isn't just about regulating speed limits; it's about encouraging a mindset that prioritizes safety, mindfulness, and shared spaces. Additionally, the reliance on such devices, even for able-bodied individuals, raises questions about how much physical activity we’re sacrificing for convenience. Regular exercise is essential not just for physical health but for mental well-being too. Perhaps this conversation can inspire us to strike a balance between innovation and the basic human need to move, connect, and sometimes simply take things slower. 😌

[@bummers]

I like how CNA Insider cover this PMA, not just the official legislation itself but also how actual PMA users are using them and how the new rules would impact them. As always, great job CNA Insider!

[@ilink06]

When she break the rules (having more than 1 on a PMA), still got the cheek to say others speeding. Speed test also show the braking distance. it comes down to the same.

[@faaizrosli]

I once got hit by a PMA under the voiddeck who was clearly speeding around the corner. Not only was I told to pay for the damages to his scooter, he can even pull out LTA law and say that he can file lawsuit 😂

[@dd-dd2co]

Tell him to eff off. What happened in the end?

[@cometo2004]

😮

[@namele55777]

report police, let police investigate

[@dd-dd2co]

@@namele55777 You honestly think police will do anything?

[@angelinang6402]

It's becoming increasingly challenging for pedestrians to share pathways with cyclists and PMAs. The constant ringing of bicycle bells and the fast-moving PMA can feel intimidating and disrupt the flow for those walking.

[@Dominus_Potatus]

THis is interesting take. eBike is scared of car and truck on the road while people is scared of cyclist on the road.

[@GG-tr2xe]

Cyclist should not be allowed on pedestrian pavement. Especially they cannot be riding in front of a bus stop. Twice I was nearly knocked down when I got up to flag a bus looking in the direction of the incoming bus and a bicycle came to a screeching break just centimeters behind me!

[@Hosanna_zh]

Then it's gov responsibility to made non -foot path for those having foot problem,.......or are these Singaporean only to be confined in home. Btw , not everyone can afford a pma.

[@marktn9851]

How can people walk properly if one needs to watch front and back all the time?

[@Hosanna_zh]

@marktn9851 at 32:00, it's not the cyclist nor pma pmd fault, but gov planning. I have a better suggestion......ban all vehicles within town! 1) car park rebuild in rim of town. Cycle (for zero co²) only within town. 2) car park freed for vegetable/food glowth that Singaporean needs. That's no carparks within town. 3) existing within town roads reserved for goods/public transportation, pma and cyclist only. 4) shared pma (like bicycle) at mrt. 5) so foot path will be free for foot-goer's.

[@sobriomar7014]

12 year old and 8 year old cannot walk? bus? seriously. just plain lazy.

[@AzmiBesar]

I actually dont really like this PMA thing too. But did you pay attention ? The distance from their home to school is bus distance not walking distance.

[@spaideman7043]

@@AzmiBesar please define 'bus distance' and your 'walking distance' distance.

[@Unknownplsyer]

​@@AzmiBesar my school was bus distance and I took bus also what? And what's wrong with that?

[@sabrisabtu2214]

How about parents driving their kids to school? Lazy as well?

[@sobriomar7014]

@ could be. If they go out of the way to send the kids to school. If it’s on the way to work etc, I suppose not.

[@KatJade269]

In my neighbourhood, I tend to give way to oncoming PMA. And usually those that are on the same direction (as me walking) don’t even bother to horn. Same go to those on e-bikes and bicycles. I accept that the pathway is meant for sharing of all users but the problem is no much consideration is shown. Those on the “equipments” tend to feel that they’ve the right more than the human beings who walk.

[@kitsura]

All motor vehicles on the road require license, annual inspections and 3rd party insurance. Then you let PMA loose without requiring any of the above. What do you think is going to happen?

[@GG-tr2xe]

There should be a law restricting the purchase and use of PMA by medically certified persons ONLY. If we get rid of bicycles on the road 50 years ago, why can’t we do now? No point just talking to the perpetrators, impose hefty fines and jail terms.

[@lokewaihoe]

Interestingly, we have no such issue with electric wheelchairs (which is a form of PMA) in the past.

[@spaideman7043]

@@lokewaihoe because recently its lawless in the fine city. everybody bo chup, so, everybody abused the law, now owning pma is their 'rights'

[@SGMaleKaren-si3gw]

Not sure why they had the Mobot guy talk about the PMA rules when I remember some time back, Mobot was itself running video ads highlighting how it could be used as a effective "car" for able bodied people to e.g. buy groceries. Such promotional activities targetting able-bodied use are a very part of the problem!

[@dd-dd2co]

He's part of the problem.

[@RAPTOR-4EVA]

Maybe that was before PMA riders caused too many problems for society. Like you said yourself, it was different some time ago. But now there are too many irresponsible PMA riders, and most of them are able-bodied and don't have any medical issues.

[@dd-dd2co]

@@RAPTOR-4EVA You are missing his point.

[@SGMaleKaren-si3gw]

CNA cannot be so naive. It is like asking for fire safety advice from an arsonist.

[@RAPTOR-4EVA]

@@dd-dd2co nope.he was comparing before and after statement by mobot.

[@bigno1900]

the real hazards are those PMAs that are modified to go over the speed limit

[@lingth]

I think a crack down on any PMA over 10km/h will surely put many Grab riders out of action.. which may not be a bad thing.. and parents using PMA to send kids to school should be fined also.

[@ocswoodlands]

2:00 no of PMAs in estates is inversely proportional to property prices in estates. What does that tell you? Basically the poor in SG are using it as the poor man's car/bikr

[@franklee8032]

Exactly. There is a failure on the government’s end to meet the mobility needs of locals.

[@sdqsdq6274]

this video need part 2 and viral !! about time ..... !!

[@johnsonjohnson9915]

Pathway is supposed for people to walk but not for electric mobility. Everyday walking along the path is like life threatening and risky, worrying any speedy electric mobility will hit me. Almost every week will encounter two to three times of nearly get hit by these speedy electric mobility. Government must do something to stop these proliferation of misuse and speedy electric mobility device!

[@mingz]

CNA doing LTA job

[@WeimingXie-d2w]

Not only LTA job. CNA is doing NEA and Npark job also in other episodes. Our government related department is getting weaker.

[@cloudyday1617]

Shame on LTA.

[@shaunnaruto]

It’s sad that people are reducing their muscle building walking excercise and resorting to comfort travel methods which will degrade health in the long run

[@MrMokeymo]

Maybe only motorised wheelchairs should be allowed for general sale. And have motorised scooters leased out by delivery companies to delivery staff. With so many PMAs around and riders flouting the rules, it's a terrible nuisance. Would hate to see the day Singapore becomes like America, with a whole lot of ultra obese people riding them everywhere.

[@damlwt6657]

Already happening seen a lot of extra obese even on mrt

[@andrewtan445]

Had been working in China for the last 20 years. Lately, walking and driving in big cities is a nightmare because of PMA. Lately had been to Japan and walking or driving is so safe. Realize there is less or no PMA. Most Japanese walk and use public transportation big time. Good for health too. Singapore should just ban PMA - it's good for the majority of Singaporeans.

[@Hosanna_zh]

Yes....... majority rich people that are rich enough to grab a car everytime going out.

[@seanseah333]

@@Hosanna_zh taking public is actually quite good in singapore relative to other neighbouring countries.

[@Hosanna_zh]

@seanseah333 yes, therefore let public transportation vehicle only in town, convert all remaining road for Mobile device is the best solution: delivery pma pmd (all hardly inter town travel, mostly in town travel only). won't go alway (there's a need). Free up foot path for those wanted only for themselves.

[@Hosanna_zh]

@@seanseah333 solve going green, less$$ building more cycle path(need for delivery,pma), free carpark, make full used of town outer rim industry park at night, like those ppl said don't be lazy, half a town distance only 20 min...... Hdb for Singaporean, army fix........list goes on.

[@yhmmmm9766]

I think there are no excuses for able bodied users to really use PMAs. If able bodied food delivery people aren't happy about the new rule then it is better they quit and find themselves a proper job.

[@ChirpyChat]

Holland Village! Husbands giving fully abled wives a "ride". Parents and kids on joyride. Food delivery rider with kids in tow.

[@JK-zw7xk]

No one jogs nor briskwalk in my esttate anymore... it became a "walk risk" everytime i tried to walk 10 mins to the nearby central and ndecided its safer to take the feeder bus. EVERYDAY able bodied selfish lazing beings using the electronic vehicles who felt safer to drive on pathways hurting pedastrains rather than being hurt themselves. I've been hurt thrice myself while the riders simply sped away! Can we sue them for reckless driving??? Many had abused the system they should be fined and sued each time. Youngsters are taught the lazy way out, no need to walk. So much for healthy living!

[@guruhundal8089]

Pedestrians have no rights on the walkways. Cyclists come from behind and shout or bells you to move. Then comes PMAs the come speeding behind you honking. As a Pedestrian I have no place to walk freely.

[@lyrradw4438]

This happened last year. I was cycling on the footpath and slowed down to make a right turn, only to see a PMA rider speeding towards me. I had no choice but to veer to the right and knocked into something, suffering lacerations on my left calf. The rider did not even bother to slow down or look back. I wanted to scream at him but decided it was not worth the effort. I can see why these things can be convenient, but when people do not use these things properly, accidents are bound to happen.

[@weemingngin5919]

99% are just plain LAZY!!!!

[@viviancc1484]

Some uncles and aunties who are using PMA to do food delivery can actually walk pretty fast 😂

[@yoongimarryme9053]

As a pedestrian, I hate all these PMA riders and even cyclists. They behave like they own the pathway when the pathway is already so small and restricted. I sometimes fear for my life just commuting on foot to my destination.

[@snoopybrown2438]

This PMAs are getting out of hand in Singapore. They’re a public nuisance and must be banned. These riders are just plain lazy. It’s bad enough to cope with the increased in bicycles everywhere especially pedestrian walkways. These PMAs are worse. Inside trains, supermarkets, coffee shops. This privilege should only be given to handicapped people and restricted to motorized wheelchair exclusively. The government must do something about this!

[@nerdee89]

Sorry, Melissa, the mum is just plain lazy. Who cares if her children have to wake up earlier, she really means she have to wake up earlier to wake them up. Teach them responsibilities.

[@DrakeLow-b6k]

This has been going on for a long while, super irritating, seems like the authority is not looking into this that is affecting ordinary people who sue the footpaths. Such PMAs are meant to aid people with mobility issue but in Singapore, most are abusing the use to cater for delivery service such as grabfood etc.

[@pikachu8508]

Changes needed to be made 1. Reduce the speed limit of PMA to 3 km/h 2. Only the disabled and senior citizens are allowed to purchase PMAs 3. Making illegally own PMA or own an illegally modified PMA a criminal offence that punishable with a jail term up to 2 years and a fine of SG$10000. 4. Build more bicycle lanes. Cyclists must use bicycle lane whenever is available. If not available, cyclists must keep left of the road at all times. 5. Cyclists may use zebra crossing but must dismount while crossing the road. 6. Allow full sized bicycles to be brought on board MRT trains during weekday off-peak hours, weekends and public holidays.

[@Omn1Ark]

For your point 5, isn't that what they are already supposed to do?

[@rainingdogs]

I'm a cyclist. I share my dislike of PMAs with glaring lights and high speed, but there are some points which is not feasible. 1. Have you tried walking at 3km/h? you're probably blocking the way of other pedestrians too. And bear in mind the rules will apply to cyclists, try cycling at 3km/hr before deciding on a speed based on the numbers. 5. I agree that cyclists at zebra crossing need to take extra care. Personally i'll slow down to even a stop to make sure the cars give way before I go ahead. I've stopped at zebra crossings before when up to 3 cars passed without giving way. and have encountered crossing at walking speed where a car sped through at the second lane even while another stopped at the first lane. So cyclists, please be extra careful. Drivers don't look out. 6. It's hard enough to get a foldable on board during off peak. Not to mention weekends. So forget about full sized bikes.

[@pikachu8508]

@@rainingdogs 1. Ban bikes on pedestrian path then. As I said on point 4 that bikes must only use bike lanes or keep left of the road when bike lanes are not available. Also 3 km/h walking speed is normal for senior citizens. 5. Sure crossing roads are quite dangerous, but it's the driver obligation to pay attention on the road and look out for any dangers ahead. 6. Why not? Many European countries already allow passengers to bring full sized bikes on board during off-peak hours. Even London Underground allows full sized bicycles outside of deep tube sections during off peak.

[@darrylchiew]

Let’s get priority straight, pedestrians will always have priority on sidewalks and walk ways, period… if LTA or authorities cannot understand or make this into law, accidents will happen and it will be he say she say they say… regardless of what pedestrians will always come off worse, hence protect pedestrians with proper law and that will create a situation where such riders will face consequences.

[@bozolopo]

the only thing i hate in sg right now are PMAs. these speeders gave PMAs such a bad rep people that actually need it and abide to the rules are affected too.

[@denyce06]

Speeding or not, PMDs are not for able-bodied persons, and definitely not for doing food delivery. I feel that the government is rather “half-hearted” in clamping down on illegal use of PMDs. We need tighter rules to protect the public.

[@Charmaine296]

If everybody using pma people just get lazy to walk and the path will be crowded

[@Dzn09]

Same motorist and vehicles. They’re lazy and will be crowded too. What’s your point? They’re safe too? 😅

[@sabrisabtu2214]

​@@Dzn09they only say what fits their narrative

[@seantan4702]

Respect for this report

[@devildevil2271]

Misused with excuses 😂😂😂, but they always have excuses

[@damienlee927]

You also have to consider, those who get these PMAs will almost completely stop any cardio, which will cause long term health issues, especially so for those who a.ready have some issues

[@kelvinkwok5305]

The food delivery guy said he is able-bodied, just cannot cycle for too long. Yet he brazenly display a disabled person sticker on his PMA. 😅

[@ztsl1234]

Sg will be full of able bodied disabled people😅

[@OhNoOoOoYouDidnt]

I'm sorry, but the mom needs to suck it up and just get with what everyone else is doing. Riding the bus or driving a LEGAL vehicle on the ROAD She is trying to use excuses to justify her illegal use. Regardless of how unfair it is for her. What about all the other mom's. I'm pretty sure it's unfair she can do illegal things like that The gentleman should just stop trying to use delivery services as a full-time job. It isn't a real job because if it was, they would give you real benefits like paid time off, etc. Or healthcare coverage and retirement planning There is no excuse or real exceptions. The gentleman at the end explained it perfectly. There is no infrastructure to handle this type of transportation. If you want to do any of that, then do what most of the world is doing. Use a bicycle. For the mom, she can use kid attachments if she wants. However, I assume her kids are so far away from her home for a reason. That's why they offer a bus. Duh!

[@GeeWhizzzz]

some just should not have kids

[@sabrisabtu2214]

"Real job" lol..

[@lak1796]

In Indonesia, PMA above certain speed (idk, maybe about 10 km/h) is classified as electric motorbikes and should be registered to Motor Administration Office and wear number plates. I think the problem is so prevalent in SG due to people trying to have a vehicle but circumvent COE regulations.

[@Hosanna_zh]

Not, it's the lack of path. I prefer use such resources to build more cycle/pma friendly path. Before enforcement/laws, the gov should solve those having foot problem, including like cycling(weight on bike, not on foot in every steps), not swept it under carpet for those rich Enough to grab a car everytime they go out . Therefore isn't it's gov responsibility to made non -foot path for those having foot problem, not ban totally°.......or are these Singaporean only to be confined in home. Btw , not everyone can afford a pma. ° note! - most bike speakers that are pro banning and stuff , mostly are in expensive gears , bikes (few thousands!). With videos cycling in exotic non- traffic heavy, greenly countryside path. Usually not even a traffic lights to need "push" in every 1 min (or less) of cycling.

[@tanjeffrey9396]

😅i had a feeling that i will be one day injured very badly and injured seriously by this speeding PMA or PMD. I had a few near misses and once their wheels going over my feets when i was standing under a Bus Stop shelter at Telok Blangah Way.

[@temasekb]

should start charging coe on them if they continue riding recklessly on the roads.

[@OEMLewis]

Wah bro u abit too much already Singapore so expensive u still want COE wah thats why ppl want migrate to johor

[@shawntan7878]

@@OEMLewis Johor ppl don't even use PMA PMD and E-Bike, They drive car, ride motorcycle and Grab freely.

[@lokewaihoe]

Do you mean a fine and not COE? With COE prices at record high, number of vehicles on the road (not to mention those driving recklessly) is not getting any lesser.

[@lokewaihoe]

@@OEMLewis Nowadays, I've noticed increasing false thinking that migrating to Johor is simple and easy.

[@shawntan7878]

@@lokewaihoe Not migrate, is more ppl crossing the border daily.

[@jessicalin3942]

Those are not PMA, they are PMD. No such thing as not easy to get doctor's certified. It is because you are not handicap at all

[@zerodegreescelsius]

No need to ban PMAs - just reinforce a universal speed limit. Before the holy ones gripe about food delivery, etc., there is always someone who will lose out. Pedestrian safety or slightly slower food delivery time?

[@Hosanna_zh]

Benefits still for those rich enough to grab food. I prefer use such resources to build more cycle/pma friendly path. Before enforcement/laws, the gov should solve those having foot problem, including like cycling(weight on bike, not on foot in every steps), not swept it under carpet for those rich Enough to grab a car everytime they go out . Therefore isn't it's gov responsibility to made non -foot path for those having foot problem, not ban totally°.......or are these Singaporean only to be confined in home. Btw , not everyone can afford a pma. ° note! - most bike speakers that are pro banning and stuff , mostly are in expensive gears , bikes (few thousands!). With videos cycling in exotic non- traffic heavy, greenly countryside path. Usually not even a traffic lights to need "push" in every 1 min (or less) of cycling.

[@thewatcher4896]

It's crazy that Melissa til this day still doesn't realise that her selfish and lazy actions. Able bodied, kids that 12 and 8. Not only risk to others but herself and kids too. Unbelievable.

[@amyschneidhorst1384]

I asked a police officer in my US city about laws regarding scooters and e bikes on sidewalks. He said the laws had not caught up with the technology and these dangerous vehicles were permitted to share sidewalks with pedestrians.

[@GeeWhizzzz]

You asked a regular beat cop for a verbal response? Which city? Residential areas? Business locale? Lets see your videos, plse share.

[@dustarian]

The cycling path should not be on the same side as the pavement for pedestrains. The authorities took a short cut and the public is paying the consequences...

[@garfieldandfriends1]

The problem at the end of the day is the lack of proper infrastructure to accommodate these vehicles and bad users that is potentially ruining for other proper users.

[@sphinx1496]

Safe for them riding on the pavement but not safe for pedestrians with speeding PMAs around !

[@boispad]

Set the speed limit to same speed as walking, it’s kind of annoying this devices on the pathment and honking like we blocking their way

[@weeliano]

I absolutely abhor PMAs zooming on pedestrian paths ridden by young and obviously healthy people. Just ban the bloody things before the pedestrian walkways get clogged by these pests.

[@askg_androidshare]

Firstly, Personal Mobility Devices (and PMA) are designed for individuals who may require assistance, such as those using wheelchairs, which typically do not travel at a consistent speed of 6 km/h. Secondly, an average adult is unlikely to maintain a walking speed of 6 km/h for extended periods; thus, it raises questions about why the relevant authorities allow PMD (and PMA) to exceed this speed limit. This suggests that the authorities may not be putting sufficient effort into their regulatory responsibilities. Lastly, the high speeds of PMD and bicycle riders etc in HDB void decks create significant blind spots, posing safety risks. Notably, Japan faces an aging population yet has minimal PMA usage, offering a potential example for consideration. (P.s From the very beginning, putting 2 primary 6 students together can do a better planning)

[@lizy8000]

I’ve not seen that many PMA’s in any other city except S’pore!! It’s mainly food delivery riders are the main culprits for riding too fast on pedestrian walks. I’ve had to jump aside to make way for the PMAs so as not to get run over 😬

[@sidewalkslam]

that's because cars and motorcyles are super costly here (i totally understand the reasons why) so people opt for alternative transport, sadly.

[@tancossine6733]

In short, if you can't afford a car or a motorbike, life is going to be difficult, inconvenient and dangerous for you.

[@bibihotmailcom]

Thank you for covering this topic. We need to enforce stricter laws on the purchase of PMA and license for designated vendors who can import and selling PMA. Gave each PMA a license. Make use of speed camera, capture those speeding PMA. Not only that, enforce mandatory training session on PMA riding. Educate the riders. Instead of seniors, most often I’ve seen it heavily misused by youngsters and a lot of Grab/Foodpanda delivery people. Come to CCK Central see how they use the PMA over the speed limit and drive recklessly.

[@rene78]

As a foreigner who regularly visits SIN I am dumbfounded. Only 10% of the population own a car. Yet all pedestrian, cyclists, escooters etc. have to share a tiny sidewalk while cars drive on 6-lane stroads. Why?

[@careyliang7553]

Welll.... Lack of proper infrastructure yet fear of votes by motorised vehicles for some reasons 😅

[@Hosanna_zh]

Well say!

[@LaustinSpayce]

The people in charge paid a lot of money for their Certificate of Entitlements. I guess they want to make sure they have the "premium" commuting option.

[@careyliang7553]

@@LaustinSpayce what they intentionally omitted is the tax is also introduced due to the fact that their convenience is killing everyone else faster by choosing petrol fueled vehicles

[@REDREDStrawberry]

My sister took 1 step out of the lift and a PMA almost hit here. End up she had a fall due to the shock.

[@princevaliant]

Kudos to Steve and gang to ride on the roads. So dangerous!

[@OrchidForce]

Govt should stop this. Anyone who needs PMA should seek consent via doctor’s certification.

[@scheong9832]

Irresponsible parent. Stop finding excuses

[@ahmadsaifuddin7416]

Hi im a grabfood delivery rider myself but im using bicycle .. From my opinion, im okay if the disabled people or those who have medical issue using a pma because i know some of them they really have medical problems.. But i dont agree to those who is healty and no medical problem and using PMA. And i hope by next year, the relevant authorities will do something about those healthy people out there using Pma.

[@nicholasbolas]

If everyone can accept their food delivery to be slower, I think a Singapore without PMAs (for non-disabled) is possible. That means these companies cannot punish deliverypersons and should provide ample delivery time for them to be paid.

[@ustradingdiary]

Do you know Food delivery platform are not profitable to begin with. It will only means delivery fee will be much higher at later stages.

[@HULKZZY]

@@ustradingdiaryjust restrict delivery to 3 modes . Bicycle , motorcycle and 4 cars or commercial vehicles . It used to be this way , but people got lazy

[@ilink06]

I wonder does the food delivery platform had speed limit on their delivery. if yes, that will be good. Eg. distance from food to order 3km, takes 30mins. even if the rider ride an illegal PMA, the time will still be 30mins, buyer will only be prompt food arriving in 5-10mins. even rider ride fast, had to wait for the time. rider cannot communicate with buyer til the last 5-10mins. the platform should also check for their cert to allow their account to select PMA and restrict the speed of delivery.

[@celestialstar124]

Just on 23/11/24, my dad came home fully soaked despite he is using umbrella because a pma uncle just drove pass him at more than 6km/hour. The water splash up towards my dad shirt. Just grateful my dad didn't fall or injured himself.

[@redwings1974]

It’s hard to monitor and control on where PMA, PMD, E-bikes ride on. With limited ‘monitoring’, it be hard to tackle the issue. Pathways are build for pedestrians. Gov will need to widen it if need to accommodate PMAs. And to have a better PCN path connections for PMDs and e-bikes.

[@liar-liar]

In short, just too many lazy peoples who doesn't wants to walk 😂😂😂

[@AW-ws1ll]

why do you need an entire year to cap the speed to 6kmph?!

[@Sharp_Commentor-xk6zs]

The PMA nuisance is one of the many ills that sprouted from the disastrous implementation of the car lite fantasy under the 4G. I will remember it at the ballot box.

[@manofthehour_]

Me too bro. What a dumb idea

[@katkat4019]

Plus one more. Me

[@jasxteo]

Can we just ban PMA and those one wheeler etc? Just return to non electric bikes, wheelchairs for pedestrian walkways and cars and motorbikes for roads.

[@peterwilliamson1]

In the past, I would understand when people use PMAs because it could be due to disability or some sort. But now I'm seeing even youngsters and able-bodied people using it. The problem with this is they are flat-out rude and will honk at you expecting you to give way to them. Despite LTA's reminder that whether it is a shared or pedestrian path, PMAs and cyclists must give way to pedestrians since their transportation devices could hurt pedestrians. But unfortunately they either do not know about this 'reminder' and they still expect walkers/pedestrians to be the ones giving them way. I've even seen some PMAs and cyclists being at fault but becoming confrontational and aggressive towards their victims. It is crazy. It is because of this I support a strict enforcement or total ban on PMAs except for the handicaps who need them.

[@patricia877]

The woman is definitely driving too fast on a footpath. Not safe for pedestrians.

[@princevaliant]

Yup, Singapore's cycling lane is a joke...With short distance and many cut off. The person who planned these cycling paths are just half backed like the so call Top tier Gov? Because their cycling path is reflecting on their planning ability or for show only attitude? Walking is so much less stress if relying on these cycling path which was never planned in the master plans years ago. But walking is so much dangerous now due to arrant riders.

[@Hosanna_zh]

I prefer use such resources to build more cycle/pma friendly path. Before enforcement/laws, the gov should solve those having foot problem, including like cycling(weight on bike, not on foot in every steps), not swept it under carpet for those rich Enough to grab a car everytime they go out . Therefore isn't it's gov responsibility to made non -foot path for those having foot problem, not ban totally°.......or are these Singaporean only to be confined in home. Btw , not everyone can afford a pma. ° note! - most bike speakers that are pro banning and stuff , mostly are in expensive gears , bikes (few thousands!). With videos cycling in exotic non- traffic heavy, greenly countryside path. Usually not even a traffic lights to need "push" in every 1 min (or less) of cycling.

[@tinateh]

So I was right all along. I proposed low speed when I was consulted but the powers that be went with 10km/hr. As an assisted mobility professional at the time, I never approved of speeds more than walking speed. It was meant for the disabled and frail elders, they wouldn’t be able to respond quickly to emergency or sudden situations. Safety is paramount and low speed is safer for the target group and are not meant to go on the road but stick to pedestrian walks. I also made suggestions on controls but it was so lax when implemented and there was a reluctance to govern. This is the outcome. Abuse, and it was not unforseeable. Doesn’t take a lot of brains to understand and predict human behaviour. Able bodied should just go get a proper vehicle and be licensed to ride them on the road if they need it for work or their daily errands.