Elon Musk: Working from home is 'morally wrong'

Silicon Valley “laptop classes” need to get off their “moral high horse” with their “work-from-home bulls***,” Tesla CEO Elon Musk told CNBC’s David Faber in a Tuesday interview. Watch the full video here: • Tesla CEO Elon Musk: '...

[@ponce-87]

I'm a truck driver and obviously I can't work from home, But if you're in a occupation that can work from home I 100% support it. Traffic on the freeways is complete disaster, the more people that can work from home the better. Let's keep the highways open for people that have to actually go into work and can't stay home.

[@davide724]

Yeah, but your truck is a second home. 😉😀

[@ponce-87]

@@davide724 technically you're right. But I hate traffic so let's keep office workers at home lol

[@samuelalley7331]

Well said and good logic. Elon is off base. It could be a bad decision for some people, but that is totally a personal understanding of what is good for your lifestyle. Individuals should use their own wisdom and descretion, not a one size fits all rational from Elon.

[@sanjuu1988]

As long as the productivity stays the same

[@jmm1817]

Yes I agree one hundred percent it depends on what industry you're in I'm a Wholesale Distributor my work-from-home I do mostly all shipping I live in Southern California the freeways are mess there's no point of me driving around I don't have to

[@dlyras]

You know what's morally wrong? To sit in traffic for 2 hours a day. That's 10 hours a week wasted.

[@Dolomite1]

Thanks to y'all peasants voting for R and D politicians who rather steal millions $ than invest in an outstanding public transportation, taking care of mental health issues, etc, but they just pocket all the $ they can, all still take advantage of the taxes loopholes including Trump who obviously didn't change it. In the end, both R and D are the same thing pretty much, and they both do an amazing job at splitting the peasants so they can all keep getting extremely rich.

[@talmboutcris]

Boring company

[@saberrider3659]

@@ServiceUnavailable What if you die when teleported and someone who looks and acts exactly like you, with the same memories and stuff, gets re-created there? Teleportation is scary stuff man.

[@caseywamack6789]

I was thinking the same thing. If you go to work just to sit at a computer or at the phones it's wasted time, energy and more traffic when it's not necessary. Also if you have kids or elderly to care for it's invaluable. I usually agree with Elon though.

[@cxveeeee9311]

And 16 hours of pollution produced

[@ChoosenPeople]

This is a terrible argument. By this standard it’s morally wrong he’s a billionaire but his employees aren’t………

[@IveInterpreter-nj7vl]

I’d like to give your comment a billion likes.

[@Alienshade]

Elon musk is a hype baby. He is nothing without the people that work for him. It is said that instead of buying twitter he could have paid his workers some money. To show that he appreciates them.

[@djimiwreybigsby5263]

Typical overlord

[@jordanbabcock9349]

​@@Alienshadeyes. Rich people should give everything away! The poor should not do more!

[@blafferdist]

Why not? Becoming a billionaire is free. One must work hard to be poor.​@@jordanbabcock9349

[@workandplay717]

What’s actually morally wrong is tax evasion from billionaires.

[@favored6007]

Say it louder for the people in the back!!! 💯

[@d4rkblu386]

Elon paid 11 figures in taxes. Not sure what crack you're smoking

[@peonyflowers23]

Well said.

[@umadbro4493]

theft evasion?

[@HamstringCollector]

​@umadbro4493 nope tax evasion. Taxation is not theft, its the price of the services provided to us by the government. If you want a stateless society so badly Antarctica is nice this time of year.

[@vlpet]

Car manufacturer saying it's morally wrong to not drive to work.

[@vaeldrnero6251]

Guy who extracts materials from mines with literal slaves tells you that you are immoral because you can work from home while a home repair guy needs to come to the home to repair it.

[@dgabrielm]

Underrated comment

[@Truckdriver2022]

Well to be fair, he didn't say his workers need to drive to work. They can uber, bike, or take public transportation.

[@kurt10k74]

​@@vaeldrnero6251literal slaves? Lol. Clueless.

[@GGPointOfView]

Nah he is extremely hardworking person and I understand the premise, but it’s not like I do it because it’s under me to go somewhere or I am lazy, I just make more money this way, at this point in my life.

[@Wildbill699]

Man who owns a car company thinks people should travel to work SHOCK

[@darkknightwater]

well said lolol

[@ivanvincent7534]

A man who starts a company based on reducing carbon emissions is against working from home.. FFS

[@unclejesse4271]

He slept in the fsctory

[@moisestorres9618]

Yeah if everyone worked from home less people might buy his cars to commute to work.

[@imagerydiversions6127]

Lol great point

[@joneslt]

I couldn’t disagree more. Since working from home, I’m way more productive at work, I have more $ in my pocket, more time with family, I’m healthier, happier and have more energy…my company saves on office space and I’m not polluting the environment. It’s a win win all the way around.

[@DesertlizzyThe]

Exactly 👍👌😝

[@leewhitbeck791]

I am a type a personality. I do have Strick hours. This guy needs to get off his high horse. Elon, you are NOT in the same category as Einstein. NEXT! I'm not drinking the coolaide.

[@brendan9218]

How much fatter did you get?

[@krist0_citizen]

"Stop working from home - it lowers demand for the cars I'm selling!"

[@daveelliott2629]

Gen Z and people that don't want to be seen and then complain about service delivery Electrical company and the phone company and director's are there for a reason ....................

[@sunflower4197]

😂

[@MPV42024]

High five 🖐🏼 for reading through the smoke. Elon! We love you… that doesn’t mean we believe everything that comes out your mouth🤭

[@ennvee1989]

Oooh I get it now.

[@Hondstyles]

Drive to work, sit in traffic for 2 hours, pull out your laptop and sit at a desk.

[@Nycku007]

Or take a goddamn train. Laptop workers usually live in developed countries. Most of the time ,public transportation shouldnt be an issue.

[@TheKingTywinLannister]

@@Nycku007 no

[@Nycku007]

@@TheKingTywinLannister 👌👍

[@actuallyarman]

Government makes public transport system for a reason

[@jorgerodriguera6890]

​@@Nycku007i dont think this is realistic at all. I know for a fact its imposible in most places in mexico and even in san francisco i know people that use public trsnsportation and its a big waste of time. I work way more hours working from home than i ever did at the office. Most of my teammates would agree

[@Meatneak]

So you're telling me my Tesla with FSD can drive itself while everyone else has to drive their car by themselves ? It's morally wrong !!

[@user-lx6xg5cb5u]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 well done!

[@ShadowsOfTheBeast1]

💯💯💯💯💯👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 . God bless you, I normally agree with musk some of the time and this time he is dead wrong!

[@vuvolt3075]

👏👏👏That's right! Tell him to give us all Teslas to drive us to work and take us home then.

[@vuvolt3075]

​@@ShadowsOfTheBeast1Me too, but you're correct, he's dead wrong on this one

[@julieterrell7921]

😂😂😂 touche

[@hellskitchen360]

What’s morally wrong is for someone to sit behind the wheel of a car for over two hours a day then sit at a desk in a cubicle for eight hours a day.

[@WeiFinder]

I'm at that point where if an employer requires me to work in the office, I say thanks for the interview, good luck. You'd literally have to pay me double for me to accept in-office work.

[@user-gt6hx8eo5z]

Move closer…

[@WeiFinder]

mOvE clOseR

[@user-vy7iw4lf5o]

I have been remote for 8 years. I absolutely love it and I am highly productive without all the drama of the work place.

[@WhatYaReading]

This is how the elites put one group against another.

[@trollnerd]

For real. Calling us the "laptop class" in order to put blue collar workers against us, as if we're the ones putting 99 cents of every dollar they make for the company in our pockets. We're in the same crappy situation as them, we're just slightly better off.

[@holoholohaolenokaoi2299]

Love this Elon fellow

[@peaches4623]

Exactly

[@khetto1]

​@@holoholohaolenokaoi2299you gonna be one of the geniuses on the death trips to Mars?

[@rudygracia5573]

It's not just Elites;People are ALSO causing divisions.Like the mass migration from Northern&Western States to Southern States.

[@generichuman_]

I've never been so happy to be "morally wrong".

[@Toyotacorollaaltis-cn9fd]

@@Elonmusk-os9wtreally idiot no ones falling for this

[@mariano7699]

Capitalism

[@LordBorz]

Good. Now I gain the advantage!!🗿

[@Rick-bi9fw]

Well see ho long that lasts

[@Rick-bi9fw]

​@@LordBorzhe doesnt have a job.

[@lifeisgood9474]

Totally disagree, if anything, its morally wrong that you're a multi billionaires off the backs of your factory workers.

[@Wildman-zh8lg]

Cry me a river

[@lifeisgood9474]

@@Wildman-zh8lg lol, I wrote a statement about how I disagree with wtf he's saying, not crying you loser

[@lifeisgood9474]

@@Wildman-zh8lg lame comment, I'm commenting on him talking about morals, you saying cry you a river like as if youre on his boat lol

[@veskaivanova9070]

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[@lifeisgood9474]

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[@MsMoeb]

Working from home enables: - Felxibility with personal life - less stress when dealing with bad managers - Mutual trust - avoid meaningless meeting and focus more on delivery - avoid wasting hours on traffic which is obviously not paid by the employer - Getting the best profiles that WILL ask for home working anyway - Reduce the need to have enormous offices - And probably a billion more arguments. Elon is totally out of his socks.

[@MsMoeb]

@@deebee3174 That's because you failed as a manager AND as a recruiter. As a manager, you need to be working closely with your employee to monitor tasks properly, to ensure enough work is done and also not too much to avoid burn outs. As a recruiter, you need to be good enough to understand what people will fit remote positions. If you think people can't be lazy while working in offices, you are deluted, to stay polite :-)

[@MsMoeb]

@@deebee3174 allowing remote working will yield you the best profiles that have personal exigence. The other will be the mediocre ones.

[@MsMoeb]

@@deebee3174 No, you failed because you can't manage to follow progress of tasks. Working isn't the subject, making stuff done IS the subject. Your job as a manager isn't to monitor if they are working or not. Your job is to monitor if they get their tasks done in time and with good quality standards. If not, then you didn't do one of your job as a manager: Production/work Planning & deadlines management. Also: If you hire someone that you can't trust: You either failed in your recruitement process, OR you are a control freak that can't trust an employee to make his job. In both situation: You failed. You can complain all you want, but I, my self, run a team of 34 tech dev that are working remotely for 90% of them, and everything is wokring perfectly and in timely manner. Allowing full remote working enable to get the best profiles too. Because the best profiles wants fexibility, and not an over-controling boss. Free tips for you: Learn to trust your employee, they will give it back to you time 10. If they don't: Coach them to do so, if they still dont: Fire them.

[@KaustNothane]

I manage about 50 people and we have seen positives from WAH, I will say bad apples always exist, but those are few and far between. Being a good leader helps. Also, studies show it works. Elon is wrong here. It is a control dynamic and they do work better for HIM when he can YELL directly at them.

[@MsMoeb]

@@KaustNothane pretty much yup

[@omrtheater7244]

Sorry Elon, that's the stupidest argument against WFH I ever heard.

[@alexman8800]

Outside of my own WFH job, I have other WFH jobs too, and they are 1) fixing my own car, 2) fixing my own plumbing 3) cutting my own lawn, etc.

[@michaelfilipelli2968]

Easily the stupidest argument. Makes zero sense

[@hawkgeoff]

Paraphrase: "Elon, shhhh... I don't want to have to got into work... I wanna sit in my PJs and work on a laptop."

[@Odog78]

​@@hawkgeoffyou just sound mad that you can't flip burgers in your Ferrari bed.

[@jayjayx5x1]

It’s a fact they’re less productive… Soooo, kind is right. Environment dictates productivity. And ain’t no average person curating a productive environment at home… Because if they did, well they wouldn’t be average now would they?

[@Midwestmint]

As someone who works in a factory, WHO CARES?? If people can work from home, let them.

[@johnwick884]

You are so right

[@carlosdelvalle9100]

What do u do at the factory?

[@Herogames2022]

If everyone does how do you get your Food>?

[@Midwestmint]

@HERO GAMES Well, that's why I said "IF people can" Clearly, some jobs you can't work from home, including mine. But if someone just works in an office, I don't really care if they work from home or not.

[@middleagedjabroni]

Obviously you did

[@writerchick94]

Elon Musk trying to arbitrate morality is LAUGHABLE

[@darrenmackay2303]

We can All, Learn a Lesson or Two, from Elon, about Morals.

[@hamhead2765]

@darrenmackay2303 I think you could learn a lesson or two about where to place capitals and commas in a sentence.

[@leewhitbeck791]

Ok! This is getting creepy. If you , Elon , have a moral problem of some kind, What are you doing about how America took over Hawaii???? And what are you doing about all the displaced Hawaiians that can no longer afford to live in their own Country....Yes, Hawaii was never surrendered. So, put a sock in it!

[@alexalphastream2943]

This comment is underrated.

[@RareMusicSpam]

The way his employees are treated is morally wrong so…

[@d4rkblu386]

Really? Decent wages? As much overtime as you could possibly want? Sounds kinda nice to me

[@RareMusicSpam]

@@d4rkblu386 there have been endless complains on the structures in which they used which have been reportedly been falling apart, scarsity of protections and a couple more things

[@DavidLopez-rk6em]

​@@d4rkblu386You're stupid. His companies pay lower wages than competitors and he's anti union. So their benefits and worker protections are also lower than competitors. People that work at his companies are often overworked with no compensation

[@brendan9218]

He treats his workers great. What do you do?

[@Matt333ETH]

By that logic, none of us should work in an office either- the people who built it worked outside in the heat, so we should too

[@ZachGood]

A friend of mine works in a prison. We should all work around dangerous inmates because he’s forced to do so.

[@purpleXpotion]

The people who ran plumbing for the building had to work in the sewer. All office cubicles, laptop equipment, & rolley chairs.. to the sewer!! 😂

[@FiatVoluntasTua888]

🤣😂

[@user-bh5in4xf3q]

Yeah agree ....totally nonsense.. we have showers Africans don't.... moral issue.... we go to office by car, people in africa go walking.... another moral issue... you are a millionare runing a company that produce car who exploits african miners... we are not... moral issue

[@Shadowlief]

​​@@user-bh5in4xf3q To be fair, Elon is African American. And if he is taking advantage of African Miners, I'm just saying Africans were the ones who started slavery, one of the few exports they ever had. On a more serious note, he actually used to sleep in his office instead of going home when things were starting up at Tesla.

[@mraf8582]

You have a yacht, I don’t. Isn’t that morally wrong?

[@jaredweiman2987]

No. It means you don't have the money he does. But you also aren't putting rockets into space and EVs on the road.

[@shellylavigne5913]

The laptop crowd… yep. Eating cake and getting crumbs in the keyboard

[@GeoJr815]

Elon is constantly working. You people trying to hate on Elon every chance you get are creepy

[@ax85114]

Best comment

[@mraf8582]

@@jaredweiman2987 sarcasm..

[@jameshewitt1281]

As a construction worker who has to travel home from boston everyday, i say work remote if you can! The more people working from home the less traffic i have to sit in😂

[@veltriv914]

What's morally wrong is people not being paid a salary where they could ever live near their jobs in expensive urban centers, and are then forced to take trains that go 2 miles an hour and got built in the 1800s to get to work

[@artistny0000]

Einstein worked out general and special relativity at home.

[@leofreese1]

U sure it wasn’t at the patent office? 🤔

[@BallinLongboarder209]

Nope he did this in a lab you goof… he needed help from all sorts of people to work that theory out, and he sure as hell didn’t have those people all come to his house to help him….. unbelievably ignorant comment

[@dingodave9160]

Einstein is a huge grab for your flimsy point.

[@elijahknox4421]

"I think working from home is extremely immoral. Listen to Elon." -Albert Einstein

[@BallinLongboarder209]

Einstein discovered those things in a lab, not at home. Not even close buddy

[@joakos1122]

The guy who built his own tunnels because he hates traffic telling everyone to wait in traffic thats perfect

[@mushylog]

He builds tunnels so that the traffic is more fluid. His tunnels will allow for less time spent in traffic. Also he never said to wait in traffic; now THAT is perfect

[@1chasehayez]

So he’s trying to find more efficient methods for people who do leave the house to be productive? Also, does anyone enjoy sitting in traffic?

[@joakos1122]

@@1chasehayez the best way to reduce traffic is to allow employees to work from home

[@joakos1122]

@@mushylog tunnels eventually become congested speed limit would be 50mph people tend to drive even slower than that in tunnels. A mile of tunnels costs over a billion dollars compared to $900,000 for conventional roads. Tunnels would be much better used for subway railways than single person vehicles

[@mattysheehan9786]

@@joakos1122 Bro bro, The tunnels he’s speaking of are these magnetic levitation capsules that travel at bullet train speeds

[@mellowmayelo]

This is a perfect example of a miserable person feeling the need to make others miserable as well

[@Septem1991]

Listening to a billionare saying what is morally wrong, is morally wrong

[@LANFEAR93]

Why? He's the most hardworking person here on earth and definitely more than any of the geniuses here in the comment section. Your definition of Morals needs to be updated.

[@frankiebee57]

Rich men know nothing about our struggles.

[@twstdreality]

I guess you don’t know Elon’s story then

[@allen_the_king40848]

Top management never does. They only see the tip of the employee iceberg.

[@twstdreality]

Most rich people are self made so they probably struggled at some point

[@brettcollins7041]

@@twstdrealityNO THEY ARE NOT. 88% of wealth, is inherited. Most rich people were given nearly everything they have

[@twstdreality]

@@brettcollins7041 most millionaires are self made

[@jry0511]

this is like having some nobleman lecturing peasants on the morality of some working in a shop while others toil in the fields. Just downright stupid.

[@KennethCadeth]

How on earth is that a reasonable comparison?!😂

[@mmhmm1296]

Yeah noblemen were’t nearly as rich

[@allen_the_king40848]

Hey Elon, ever heard of the management iceberg? No? Not surprised. Sorry Elon, but your front-line employees see 100% of the problems. Top management only sees the 3% above the surface.

[@LadyLilith435]

​@@mmhmm1296 Nobles had to provide for the peasants

[@RhetoricalMuse]

It's not a moral issue. He is wrong here.

[@ebenezerkoomson8313]

The more people work from home, the less car they buy, the more car and transportation companies loses money.

[@aarontaylor9458]

I believe a lot of ultra wealthy people become out of touch with reality. He's saying "fair is fair" but it really doesn't make sense to have people commute to an office everyday for something that CAN be accomplished from home

[@hendrx]

its a car company, he can't afford people realizing they dont have to commute

[@underdogtv2855]

Most people in the US are out of touch with reality that's why Russia invaded Ukraine because they knew the US is living in LALA land.

[@bludika]

he's done more real, hard work than you ever have lol, shut up

[@bobo-is-great]

That's because those that work at home don't have to be managed at work by a middling manager so if home workers are getting their work done then you won't need that middle layer of management...that's a great way to save company money.... YOUR 🔥 Fired!!

[@clairechloe5294]

👍👍👍👍Well said.

[@plokkum]

I sometimes work on location with clients. I can confirm that working from home is a LOT more productive.

[@davidfoote696]

I think some people thrive working onsite, and some thrive working from home. I prefer working from home, but if my line of work required me to work onsite, then so be it. No ill will either way

[@d-_-b8558]

@@davidfoote696 Difference between your line of work requiring it and your boomer boss requiring it. Certain jobs (currently) need to be done in person, like surgeons, nurses, grocery store clerks, food service, hairstylists, etc. With current technology there's no getting around that. Any job that can be done entirely on a computer/phone, there is absolutely zero reason to require in office work. Anyone who disagrees with that is coping or has a vested interest in office work. Muskrat here obviously is a car salesman and wants everyone driving. But there's also a lot of money to be lost in urban office real estate if that becomes worthless, and wealthy owners don't want that. Micro-managing middle management types also become less relevant when performance can still be tracked remotely, so there's a whole subset of careers that are threatened by WFH, too. Neither are valid arguments against WFH, though.

[@lanbatal-tech-vu3gz]

@@davidfoote696 big difference between working from office because its actually required. and working from office because "my commercial realestate market"

[@afro84]

The idea that everyone needs to suffer because some people can't have it is insane. Shall we all have the health care standards of Sudan because otherwise it's morally wrong?

[@samthachamp5035]

It is actually insane that people worship this guy 😭

[@rulesmen]

I am a programmer and I get constantly interrupted by middle-manager in the office. Not a great place to be productive.

[@tyranmcgrath6871]

Radio was talking about eliminating mm first in country job cuts

[@rutherfordn7560]

Just playing devils advocate here because I’m a c# full stack programmer, you can just as easily get interrupted at home as you can in office

[@underedenxx]

Is programming a real job? 🤣🤣😆😆😂😂💀💀

[@mikey121981]

​@@rutherfordn7560 definitely not!

[@rutherfordn7560]

@@underedenxx you ask my $35/hr pay rate if it is

[@mc-nm6ml]

Then it’s also morally wrong for someone to have a job indoors while other people have to work outside. Let’s all sit in the mud together laptop or shovel so we can all be equal.

[@julianseiler8436]

Exactly !! Sorry but that sentense what Elons said just say idiots

[@yallonlytalksmoke4587]

So how tf am I gonna account for a company going bankrupt before it happens using a shovel outside 😂

[@peonyflowers23]

Love this! 😂😂😂😂 😂 Correct

[@tofuguru941]

That's a bit of a stretch bud. You can change your job if you don't wanna work in the mud. You're talking about occupation, musk is talking about being cozy at home while working vs anywhere but home.

[@alexalphastream2943]

That, and also make everyone work night shifts, just so it’s fair.

[@imanicapri]

What is morally wrong is him speaking on it… he is a billionaire as a direct result of capitalizing and counting on the efforts of others to make his business run. Too many super rich, entitled folk are comfortable with having their lifestyle supported by the work of others to whom they do not pay or respect enough. This is not true for everyone who is wealthy or beyond millionaire status but the world needs to really get the message: The majority of decent working people do not want to be corporate slaves just to survive and provide for their families. The nature of working should continually evolve to benefit EVERYONE involved, and if the job can be done well from home then it should be no question. Hours lost in commuting and the other stressors that sometimes come with in-person jobs doesn’t have to be the rigid norm, a lot of people are over it and it doesn’t make them lazy or immoral. It makes them honest about wanting to fully enjoy their lives, their families, their right to flexibility and be able to provide for themselves.

[@JennyofOldStones713]

If your job is something physical like an electrician, a plumber, an ER nurse, a firefighter, a food delivery person (delivery is literally in the job title), no you CANNOT work from home. If you’re a computer programmer/designer, or a human resources manager, or an insurance agent, etc, you CAN work from home. You cannot compare a a food delivery person to a computer programmer. One is needed physically, the other isn’t.

[@favored6007]

Exactly. He's comparing apples with oranges.

[@deepanshuv]

By that logic, he doesn't have a right to own billions while so many people are starving on this planet, it's morally wrong

[@Zeegoner]

Exactly

[@briarblack3938]

How is that the same? Bit of a reach.

[@Rauly84]

101 %

[@Rauly84]

Is just he likes to have Total CONTROL on his employees ...

[@ameliatah4107]

The billionaire class is living in Lala land

[@Klako-ls6yt]

Can't imagine why the owner of a car company has a problem with people working from home.

[@noisepollution6761]

Bummed out 69 angry emos?

[@Sid_Personal_]

Use your 🧠 🤡

[@ogzombieblunt4626]

He's right

[@noisepollution6761]

The problem with divinity is you want everything to happen at once if you ask me. 🦎

[@markthomas7279]

That's a ridiculous argument.

[@donaldlawson1334]

With inflation and the need for two parents to work, it helps tremendously being able to work from home so I cut back on time in traffic, get stuff done over lunch, get dinner started the minute I log off so it’s ready for my family when they get home, go down to one car etc. the benefits are many. If you’re getting your work done, it shouldn’t be an issue

[@Will0wisp_]

What’s morally wrong is how much companies can get away with

[@Chdk24]

I can’t work from home in my job but I’ve got no issue with anyone that can. As long as you can be productive, working from home will give you a much better quality of life, no travelling, can cook a healthy meal, on your lunch break you can put the washing on or do the dishes. I see way more positives than negatives to it.

[@davidfoote696]

It gets abused by some people for sure. BUT i remember working onsite and theres PLENTY of time being wasted there too lol.

[@chochooshoe]

the problem is for some jobs technically yes you can absolutely work from home but in reality it makes the work much less efficient. it probably does provide many benefits that make your non work life better but it will make your work worse. of course many people only talk about how it makes it better for the non work part and refuse to admit there's a downside for the actual work aspect.

[@davidfoote696]

@chochooshoe it depends on the person. If they are a responsible, accountable person, their work doesn't suffer. Also management makes a big difference. I have quotas I have to meet everyday. My managers are more concerned about getting my tasks done, rather than being glued to my desk. Depends on the type of job. Pros and cons all the way around work from home vs on site.

[@melvinlee5684]

The dumbest reasoning that I have ever heard from a man that is supposedly a genius.

[@thelaurels13]

He’s not a genius. He’s a good entrepreneur, but not that good considering Xs market value has dropped by 70% since he took over…definitely not a genius. The geniuses are the people he employs.

[@kylandterrell1691]

​@@thelaurels13exactly

[@KG-eh6jm]

I totally agree!

[@vorna]

@@thelaurels13 It dropped because big advertisers boycott twitter for allowing free speech protected by the first amendment instead of censoring it like every other big social media platform. Twitter actually keeps breaking it's own traffic records over and over since he took over.

[@Wardyworlds]

He's not a genius though, he buys into other people's ideas helps them grow, employs new people, ditches the creators then rebrands it. He's done that with everything he owns.

[@fieldtinny33]

Having Billions while others in poverty in the USA. Mormally wrong?

[@d-_-b8558]

I'm a big believer in working for your money. I think it's morally wrong for Elon to collect billions while not really doing any work himself.

[@KitCalder]

Do it yourself if it's that easy

[@civileit]

This guy pretends he wants to save the earth but he'd rather everyone sit in traffic for hours wasting fuel everyday, putting wear and tear on cars, to sit in a big office which is a huge waste of all resources. Sounds like he's the one who's on the high horse.

[@yashpatel261]

That is a good argument but i do not think he wants to save the earth. He just wants to make more industry and increase human expansion.

[@HablaCarnage63]

Well given he sells electric cars that expend little electricity while idle, I don’t think his goal is to burn hydrogen, gasoline, or diesel.

[@teresaamanfu7408]

@@yashpatel261 It seems to me, that he pretends he wants to save the Earth, but it’s all about his ego and greed.

[@rickywood8805]

Hickeys account for about 3% of total co2 emissions 😂😂

[@vuvolt3075]

Here's what's up. The less people drive, the less money he makes, because of less carbon emissions= we really don't have to buy an electric car.😂😂

[@valm.1287]

That fool is morally wrong!!! This greedy person has more slices of bread than anyone can eat in a lifetime, while others are starving and he does not share!!!!! People that think they have a right to control others are morally wrong. Tell that crap to parents who can't even afford to send children to child care. That guy is morally wrong!!

[@tonyisnotdead]

as someone who values the autonomy of individuals and hates the people who take that away, im pretty sure it's good that parents can't send their kids to child care

[@hi-et1oq]

Exactly and remember this dude wants the population keep growing for his greed

[@LABeachBum]

If you want to reduce fossil fuel consumption then why not keep all those commuters off the road. Work from home helps save the environment.

[@alifetosummit]

It’s morally wrong to work from home but morally right for you to keep more money than all the average persons combined? Come on man, have some awareness of how absolutely stupid that sounds.

[@wrystandata5318]

Not everyone can work from home? Okay not everyone can be a billionaire either

[@thatswhatshesaid6326]

Wait, what??? 😂

[@dancingruth]

He should give all his money away to even things out.

[@mastyer0fReality]

Democrats disagree

[@bryant475]

​@@dancingruthHe has charities, but no he shouldn't just give money away to lazy folks who don't want to work (unfortunately he pays a ton in taxes which helps pay for such people)

[@toastbrot97]

​@@bryant475 don't confuse poor people with lazy people. Often time the people that have the least have to work the hardest just to survive.

[@nocsheep]

Working from home is fine. It's like working indoors with AC. Not everybody has that luxury. It's life

[@azul1964]

The only time work from home is fine is when you live in the workplace. No more traffic😊

[@ShinRobS]

Telosico

[@llenhu7537]

100% disagree with Elon Musk. This isn’t a question of morals. I’m a writer and more productive at home then chauffeuring my laptop for 2 hours in traffic just to sit at a desk and write when I can write at home. I do have a desk and chair at home lol. His reasoning is asinine. If you have a job that allows you to do it from home, why the hell not??

[@neglectantithesis446]

People were never supposed to work for an hourly wage to barely survive. Much better to live a more humble life in which you produce the broad extent of what you consume.

[@davec65]

I'm shocked that a guy who owns a car company wants you to drive to work.

[@brendan9218]

You can ride a bike.

[@SpartanLawyer]

Of course he's against that. Employees who work in-person are easier to control and monitor. Less autonomy for the individual, more corporate oversight

[@HuntingTarg]

If you're satisfied having a job, then you don't value autonomy.

[@mollyhoney6155]

As they should. Workers should be controlled. They’re being paid. What? This is why China is doing so well and us entitled, lazy, soft fools are not

[@lizarosa156]

If you can work from home do it! Our streets and roads need emergency services and delivery people to be priority. Car accidents are of epic proportions. It is from overpopulation overcrowding.

[@jayyyzeee6409]

The jobs that can be done from home should be done from home. Why waste time and resources needlessly?

[@SimonFranck100]

It's morally and ethically right and good to not waste time, fuel, space and your employer's money

[@jaymondal2466]

Damn Elon - you get to have a private jet but the workers in your factory don’t .. Is that morally fair?

[@thadd1116]

Yes it is. Elon creates much more value than an unskilled factory worker. Therefore he gets to have more. Should elon instead travel by horse and carriage since its more likely his factory workers can also afford that?

[@lettersandwordsandstuffs]

​@@thadd1116horse and carriage are more expensive than cheap cars lol Elon is worth how much and has a yacht lol oh yea it's a business yacht lol gtfoh I like Elon...but he doesn't want his employees working from home lol he wants eyes on them is why I'd guess

[@chris-cy5ed]

​@@lettersandwordsandstuffsno it's not

[@chris-cy5ed]

​@@lettersandwordsandstuffslost horses are free now days

[@jestercastillo4168]

No one stopping anyone to have a private jet. If you can afford it, get it 😅. This is the most dumbsicle statement i read so far 🐝

[@stt.9433]

"the laptop class is living in lala land", I'm dyingg

[@Kai6iN-the-Sinner]

Meanwhile people are still starving in some countries while billionaires talk about moral conduit

[@halukccakir6614]

probably the stupidest thing Elon Musk said i guess.

[@jimwall2291]

Elon seems to think that if anyone has to suffer in a particular way, everyone has to suffer in that same way. That's sheer stupidity.

[@IcarusII3]

It’s a communist mentality to think everyone should be 100% equal in their jobs, finances, etc

[@anywhywho]

He doesn't think that, he just wants the plebs to suffer, it certainly doesn't apply to Mr Private Jet.

[@clintonfreeman7047]

​@anywherenotes2 Right Right exactly what he's doing. Love it

[@ATready]

​@@Imran51408syou think that's what he does all day? 😂.

[@clintonfreeman7047]

@Imran51408s he's so much better conservatives now. It used to be if you didn't think a kid could identify as a dinosaur they'd kick you off twitter.

[@AmanBansil]

TERRIBLE TAKE. Having to spend commuting and wasting so much of our lives working is the thing that is morally wrong. Having a kid and then barely seeing them is morally wrong. Printing money to devalue our earnings while not increasing salaries equally is morally wrong. The ONLY way out is to become an investor and own the companies these people run. OWN them all. Invest like your life depends on it; because, frankly, in today's world, it does.

[@JohnB-nq4js]

It's not a moral issue. I agree that people should go to work instead of working from home, for the most part. But that doesn't make it a moral issue.

[@LazyPicture]

This is the worst work from home argument I’ve hears

[@bruh-tq2pw]

Welcome to the man running Tesla into the ground

[@gjstevens1141]

Wah, wah.

[@princessjulia5646]

It's the best opinion. I definitely agree his right

[@twstdreality]

How is it the worst? Please elaborate

[@LazyPicture]

@@twstdreality , why should people who are able to wfh go into an office just because other people don't have jobs that can be done from home?

[@thecrabpulsar]

My productivity as an IT worker is far higher and more efficient use of time working from home rather than spending 3 hrs everyday commuting to work. Rich people like Musk who doesn't need to spend time on childcare, doing the school rounds, commuting on public transport, spending a quarter of wages on travel not to mention the lost time can talk off their backside about moral issues but in reality for many modern office workers going to the office everyday is a huge drain both physically and on the wallet.

[@dmon1088]

He doesn't care, just trying to pit us against each other with irrational reasoning and appeals to emotion, a race to the bottom where he stands to make more money and exert more control. People like Elon praise equality and morals, while internally viewing almost everyone else as mindless grunts in need of an overseer. It's funny that he's factually incorrect more times than not, talk comes cheap to this guy. The 8/9 hour day is pretty much stretched to the limit of sane existence for the majority of people, add the commute and personal maintenance and you're left with almost nothing. Thank god for weekends - how about some team building?

[@sleeplessjam5358]

And of course you charge for the benefit of the additional hours worked. if that's the case

[@thej3799]

He's not talking about the jobs that can be done from a computer okay whether that computer sits in a cubicle at work or sitting at home That's not the jobs he's talking about The laptop class that he mentions okay is not the IT class all right IT has always had to answer phone calls to tell people to turn it off and turn back on and they can do that at home or you know in a cubicle That's not what he's talking about

[@rosalbadelriogarcia9598]

People need to work locally. We were at a factory and none of the people were local. Corporations talk about building local jobs and instead there's all kinds of labor staff agencies that rotate illegal foreign workers and these same agencies take part of the employees salary and these corporations get away with paying less than minimum wage.

[@alisonhunt9459]

Yes yes yes. Commute and useless interruptions at work a total time waste.

[@kennys4100]

What he’s really saying: if everyone works from home who’s going to buy my overpriced toy cars?

[@mkcexperience5334]

Pushing Dogecoin instead of Bitcoin is morally wrong. Sooooo wrong.

[@frstchan]

Its almost like the people on top have no valid arguments for us being in an office.

[@PNWPATRIOT206]

If you want to work from home, start your own business that allows it. I agree with him, these high salary jobs for these zoomers have given them nothing but entitlement..

[@Andrew-it7fb]

​@@PNWPATRIOT206 in other words, you have no valid argument either

[@Victor-vj5ds]

​@@Andrew-it7fb how about this one, you cant build a car from home, if your doing office work and you need to communicate with someone its a lot faster to walk over and talk to them than to send an email that may take a whole day to get a response for.

[@Andrew-it7fb]

@@Victor-vj5ds They came up with this new invention to allow people to speak remotely. It's called a telephone.

[@PNWPATRIOT206]

@@Andrew-it7fb give me a valid argument for an employer to allow it, in fact how would you feel if those who came in made more? Those who choose to work from home can do so for 25% less pay? That's a genuine question too you sir, I still want a valid argument for a "work from home" policy tho..

[@Dumbluck14]

Don’t agree. Have worked successfully from home for 8 years. Not one sick day.

[@PaulCousins-ph2mm]

I think hording huge volumes of the world's wealth is also morally wrong, but no one is gunna interview me about that.

[@panama-canada]

You choose your profession. If you work in a factory, you go to factory. I choose different, to work from my home. Morality is in order. Next.

[@derekmoore3105]

Absolutely the last person who should ever speak about morals

[@ScooterOnHisWay2024]

Outside of yourself?

[@derekmoore3105]

@@user-rj7qr1uu5e because his family amassed their fortune off of “modern slavery”. But of course that’s a topic that people will always try to bury

[@derekmoore3105]

@@ScooterOnHisWay2024 I’m not the one who’s trying to rule the world

[@derekmoore3105]

@@user-rj7qr1uu5e I’m speaking about the emerald mines in Africa that were owned by his family

[@allen_the_king40848]

I guess being a billionaire and hoarding over a lifetime of moolah while the general population struggles to even get through life surviving is “morally acceptable”.

[@CalifaJohn1]

The people who fix my house run their own independent business from their home.

[@vivekagrawal4232]

Work from home is a nuisance for the companies because some people who work from home are simply not working.

[@never_give_up90]

Exactly! I worked multiple jobs from home and it gets frustrating when you're one of a few people working while the rest are taking breaks or simply not there but don't even get fired. I hated it so much! I worked in customer service and we have ladies purposely drop calls, claiming them as failed calls, and dumping them on others because they couldn't solve the issue. It should be done in the office so everyone works fairly but COVID screwed it up. They actually eventually did end up getting everyone back to the office because the rate of dropped calls kept going up but they still didn't fire anyone. It was really unfair we all got paid the same but so many didn't even work. What was worse was that I gave birth and they were forcing me back to work because people were quitting due to this situation and they were starting to have issues with the lazy ppl. So I did the right thing and quit too. It's hard to manage people working from home but it's even worse when the company is doing nothing when there is obviously an issue until it's almost too late.

[@PonderingsofIrishPresbyterian]

He must work remotely for his 10 companies surely???

[@blisscrib]

He actually lives near his headquarters in a small box home and travels back and forth

[@PonderingsofIrishPresbyterian]

@@blisscribSure. But he must work remotely at some stages, perhaps when he is in the office but not ‘On-site’. Or. Working in one of his Company offices and dialling in for another Conference.

[@blisscrib]

@@PonderingsofIrishPresbyterian hmmm yeah, well I don’t think he prefers working at home even though he has restrictions

[@jgamer2228]

No, he’s there 40 hours a week at every single one collecting his billions of dollars by hand /s

[@kaz11.11]

Masonic magic he is NOT a genius savant & that cr@p actress Maye spent all her life using stolen artifacts & magic

[@battlefrontantics5248]

He completely failed to present any logical argument whatsoever

[@bengsynthmusic]

He said it's more productive to work in office. At least one argument.

[@duduoson1306]

@@bengsynthmusicit’s not much of an argument if he doesn’t provide any reasoning behind that statement.

[@007stopjockin]

But he's the smartest man on the planet 🌎! How dare you! 007

[@nebulosastar]

His logic is flawed. By his standards, we should also eliminate delivery services because why make someone deliver your pizza at home, when you can just go and pick it up yourself. Or taxi services for that matter. Why make someone drive you somewhere when we have public transportation, and you can get there yourself. 🙄

[@user-rt9zq8rs9k]

Elon wants to watch his workers get underpaid and overworked .

[@Jac0bIAm]

One of the dumbest takes on working from home I've ever heard.

[@twstdreality]

So loss in productivity is a dumb take?

[@LucinaMeow]

​@tmdaze9281 actually research has shown people who work from are more productive... so elon is inheritely wrong.

[@AEO21Productions]

Elon is high IQ.. and seems to always be one of the most well prepared thinkers when it comes to tech and development.. but this Mcdonald’s Happy Meal of an argument is a great example of how we all have silly moments 😅

[@jdjoja]

I think Elon should rethink this logic....The time, energy, pollution and traffic we could save if more people could work from home would be undoubtedly beneficial!

[@prestonhanson501]

The social destruction and contempt will be worse then not noticable pollution . You won't care about pollution when your world is at war outside your house

[@latashalea944]

Exactly!

[@underedenxx]

Reducing the human population by 50% would do that, too.

[@jdjoja]

​@@underedenxxYes, that will work as well! However, people are not ready to except that concept yet, so we have to work with what we got!

[@kallemetsahalme5701]

he should also rethink how morally right it is that he earns more money in a minute than almost everyone else working in a month. but he has a habit of seeing problems in environment, business or moral only when its against his personal gain. not all jobs are equal and he is the 1 person who should know it

[@rosswalters9021]

I used to drive 4-5 hours a day, 3 days a week. Now work from home. In the future people will look back and say, you drive 2-3 hrs to get to work in traffic, to open a laptop 💻 that you could open at home 🏠 madness

[@ryotanu]

He compares apples with oranges.

[@VoloraHowell]

He is too opinionated and self-serving. It depends on your profession , the world is not fair. Working from home, you save hours from transportation, food , gasoline , and childcare. It's better for the employee

[@julianseiler8436]

You are right !! What Elon said was absolutely stupit

[@AKiki-ct1ro]

Its cause he wants to rent out his real estate. Hes a fake humble guy

[@lanbatal-tech-vu3gz]

its more productive too, better for employee and employeer, only worse for commercial real estate and car companies....

[@marthacarbonero1385]

Exactly 💯

[@kathleenmeadows535]

I am surprised he feels this way. LoL moral high horse lol he is on a roll. But he is still my mentor. But this is sounding like socialism.

[@skonther0ck]

I am a structural engineer. I assure you of all the professions, this one is the least likely to tolerate living in la la land. I work with other engineers all over the country just fine via phone and computer. There is no need for me to drive for hours to some office to do the same thing from there. It’s idiotic. Elon, you may be a rich guy but your opinions on somethings are stupid.

[@corryburton9834]

For a structural engineer, If you arent smart enough to pay attention to his whole speech....I dont want you engineering my crap..

[@jdubdoubleu]

He said in the video there are exceptions to the statement he made. I'm pretty sure he's referring to you as the exception.

[@corryburton9834]

@@florida.cameron you'll have to excuse the guy that can't spell....he thinks elon musk is an idiot with 100 billion dollars....

[@stephan_clarkson]

Engineer is not a pro manager. Elon is 100% correct. You can't build motivated and united team of highly performing people remotely. Because they will not spend time together, chatting less to each other, do not taking coffees/lunches and etc. All this staff is very important and are tangible for business. They you describe is like do my staff and don't touch me because I don't care about everything. It is not kind of people you can find in SpaceX for example, especially on early stages of any ventures.

[@tiagomanueltorres4550]

Bilionaires really making minimum wage workers seem entitled just because they can do their work from home no problem

[@LeonMRr]

So glad to see a comment NOT riddled with Elon fanboys.

[@magicsoundify]

Musk is a genius, but this is a stupid take. I commuted for years. It was one of the worst aspects of working life. Even travelling in to work now or just to get somewhere, the reduced traffic is much better for mental health.

[@Neurochrom]

It's morally wrong for mr Musk to enjoy sunlight while those poor miners work deep under the surface of the earth. All people should work under the surface.

[@robcarfa9782]

He's provided jobs for those people and pays them well!

[@mosthonestcommentor]

​@@robcarfa9782by steaing their surplus:)

[@morningstarx5340]

​@@mosthonestcommentor Not only did they consent to work for him, they asked him if they could work for him - and agreed on their wages. Marx understood economics yet still made the dumbest economic conclusions somehow.

[@merle-wq9ir]

Oh my oath woe is me! So many unhappy jealous envious folk out there! What have you done to be more successful yob?!

[@merle-wq9ir]

​@@mosthonestcommentor Pathetic!!! Get iff your asz abd fjnd yiur iwn success!

[@AR-fh2uh]

I dedicate an entire room of my house as an office. I installed air-conditioning, i purchased my own desktop pc, backup storage, monitors, desk, chair, printer, peripherals, all at my own expense. I pay for my own power, internet, milk, and coffee. I also work early in the morning, late at night, and even weekends because I am set up to do so. The way I look at it, I am giving consulting input for employee salary. I do all of this to save the 15 hours per week employers were not paying me to commute. My only regret is the 25 years of my career that I didn't have the opportunity to work from home.

[@jeffo4817]

Milk and coffee , really?

[@AR-fh2uh]

@jeffo4817 i guess the point is, I take responsibility for my work environment and incidentals. I don't need the company acting like they are doing me a favour.

[@jeffo4817]

@@AR-fh2uh ok ok you win

[@marthacarbonero1385]

Well said

[@juliemendoza7258]

Early, late, nights and weekends...wow! Sounds like a bummer! No thanks.

[@BattleDamageProps]

Bizzare that a futurist dosen't see the value of working from home.

[@thewb8329]

Just because he has some massive financial success does not make him the Oracle of civilization.😂😂😂😂

[@mdooms76]

Working inside a building 8 to 10 hours a day, being monitored by "supervisors", given only a 1 hour break but working like a slave until you go home...that's immoral!! Nobody wants that life anymore!!

[@jake5403]

Then take a new job

[@fabricioface]

Exactly. When offices where conceived, there was no internet. Everything was manually typed in write machines, send per post mail... times have changed. We needed COVID to see that

[@igloozoo3771]

@@fabricioface Ah so you agree Covid and the Great Reset was engineered. How is that going for all the 6 figure work from home jobs being laid off or moved to India

[@OceanLife772]

Then create YOUR OWN Company! Be YOUR OWN BOSS! 😅

[@giannquii]

You get 1 hour brakes!?? 😭 i get half hour breaks

[@solagratia8573]

I totally and fundamentally disagree. I am more productive at home, not having to put up with all the chit chat and nonsense that goes on in an office.

[@mlondon1157]

100% agree!

[@jordanc9282]

He literally said there are exceptions. A lot of office jobs, that might be the case. Different occupations have different circumstances, some are more prone to toxic workplace cultures.

[@edster0398]

I think Elon has a point. At this current time the world is very much run by people doing jobs away from home. Without it civilisation collapses. So that reality that most people have to live by should be respected. Not that people can’t work from home, they can, but 99% can’t so it’s worth remembering that.

[@mushieslushie]

If working from home isn't moral, then working in an office probably isn't either. I can take an extra hour from lunch, talk to co-workers, and take toilet breaks whenever I want. I know for most that drive a truck or work in a car factory, that isn't the case.

[@user-so2mj8cj1e]

​@edster0398 not sure why I should feel bad for a job you chose when I have the skills to make multiple times more than them from home because I'm skilled. Those same people probably don't want to pay taxes and politically don't help others ans generally selfish. Not sure why I should care about some entitled losers who feel entitled to bring me down because they're jealous?

[@bettyannbanuelos5824]

Productivity…. People work themselves to death and this one thing we mostly all love ( working from home) is morally wrong?!? STOP

[@testkonto3853]

This is where Elon is messed up, at least as I see it. "Nobody's perfect." If you can work from home and be more productive, what is wrong with that?

[@lom218]

Working from home is morally wrong, but sleeping in the office is ok, apparently

[@twstdreality]

@@drebin178ok so I guess his employees who witness this all the time are all lying

[@TehKarmalizer]

It’s great if all you care about is your work.

[@KennyAce]

Elon musk just told you that he believes in communism

[@Jcv95]

No reason for him to sleep in his office other than convenience… people just come to his office to get the ok on things, all of that could be done through a phone call. Elon is not building the cars himself, he just has to attend meetings or give the okay when it comes to new ideas for his cars. He serves no purpose other than being a green light and there is literally no reason for him to sleep at the factories/office other than convenience lol Or he is trying to convince the workers that his giving his all for his company and they should too. No job is worth killing yourself for