CNC plasma table: cleaning up the water table, slats, and an anti-corrosion water mixture

In this video I do some maintenance on my Langmuir CNC plasma table.
Recipe for the anti-corrosion table fluid:
1/4 pound of sodium nitrite powder
1 teaspoon of Physan 20
1 oz Ultramarine blue food-grade dye
Mix well, treats 75 gallons of water.
Links to purchase:
Food color:
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Physan20:
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Sodium Nitrite:
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[@MattVerley]

I paid about $175 for the local shop to make the one piece stainless pan

[@rjay1674]

Hi Matt, I have a CrossFire Pro on order and have already decided to put a one piece water table in it. I also live in Oregon, between Astoria and Portland. Could I get the contact info for the shop that built your table? I'd like to talk with them about doing one for me. Thanks,

[@MattVerley]

@@rjay1674 White's heating and Sheetmetal in Seaside. [phone]

[@rjay1674]

@@MattVerley Thanks. your videos are one of the reasons I ordered this tool. Keep up the good work. I am also a former volunteer fireman/EMT. Thank you for your service.

[@flyinpolack6633]

Awesome, thanks for the recipe! I just completed my own table build yesterday & was wondering what to put in the water. Nice shop!

[@RinkyDinkMachineShop]

The water splashing on the parts (steel parts or course) keeps them from rusting as well. I use the same plasma fluid recipe, but use blue food color. I love it

[@TUONOv4]

Thank you so much! I have a 4’x 8’ Lincoln table and I have a lot of mold growing. I will be cleaning it out like this and I will make the same concoction. The red stuff from Lincoln is terrible and expensive.

[@rosswoolley2854]

Well put together video. I am sure many will find the recipe a real help, As for me, Thank you for helping out fellow cnc plasma users.

[@joshuacaylor881]

So satisfying watching you vacuum up the sludge 😂

[@metalworksmachineshop]

I use the same in my water table. but you need to use tracer die , added to the water. it'll always be green or blue, what ever color you go with. the water in my table is 3 years old.

[@jackel440]

Pan came out nice. I will have to try put your water recipe in the future.thanks

[@BradleyMakesThings]

Haven't had a chance to watch the whole video yet, but saw what recipe you're using and wanted to share my experience. I tried that in my CrossFire Pro from the first setup - the smell while cutting isn't super nice, and then I did more research and found out the fumes are toxic. It also after a few weeks, isn't super effective in rust prevention. I only mixed 5 gallons of worth and extrapolated the amounts from the same recipe you have, but overall I just haven't had a great experience. Particularly I'm seeing it's not working great for rust, and I've felt a little bad after cutting a few times enough that I don't want to keep messing with it. I'm about to order some of the Plasma Green 9010 from Konzen to try and see how that does.

[@MattVerley]

Interesting...but my experience hasn't been the same. After over 2 months my table fluid is crystal clear and there is zero rust or corrosion on any parts...it clearly works VERY well at preventing corrosion. As far as the fumes go, I have a huge Dayton exhaust fan that I run while doing cutting/welding/plasma so fumes are never an issue. I've cut out hundreds of items since I did this video...maybe thousands. At least 6 full 4x8 sheets.

[@BradleyMakesThings]

Matt Verley Glad to hear it’s working out for you. Sounds like you maybe went about it a smarter way by making enough concentrate for 75 gallons and then using that to make your final solution instead of just trying to make it in a smaller batch like I did. Or maybe it’s the water quality used to make it? Who knows? Sounds like you have much better ventilation as well - my space is much smaller and has almost no ventilation. Did end up ordering the Plasma Green 9010. We’ll see how it works out. If I use it all up or if it doesn’t work too tell, I’ll try mixing the other recipe as a concentrate like you did and see if that works. Also got some PH strips to keep better tabs on the solution in the table.

[@MattVerley]

@@BradleyMakesThings I'd like to know how it works for you! Let me know if you feel like the commercial solution works better. Probably right about the ventilation...my shop is 30x48 with 12' side walls and vaulted ceilings so there's a lot of volume there. If I run the table without any ventilation for more than about 15 minutes there is a noticeable steam/haze in the shop. I don't like breathing anything like that regardless of the source, that's why I installed the exhaust fan. Fortunately it doesn't get THAT cold here...propping the man door open and running the fan for a few minutes completes a pretty good air exchange.

[@CraigHollabaugh]

Thanks from Colorado.

[@Z-Bart]

One piece pan. 100%. 👍

[@Rodzilla-du3pp]

Hey Matt. I'm digging the one piece water pan. I'm getting my table sometime in May, fingers crossed, and I want to get a one piece pan made up instead of dealing with the two piece. Can you give me the exact dimensions of the pan you had made? I appreciate it!

[@Poksutin]

has anyone used engine coolant for rust protection? it prevents rusting on engines so why not in plasmatables...and its cheap

[@larescats9228]

Awsome vidio Matt it was a great help

[@ecophage]

Here for the recipe, but interesting about the tray. I didnt order one then fabbed on up on my own after. Still using this set up and recipe?

[@SirPhatyJ]

The link for Sodium Nitrite is broken...

[@JackInTheShop]

9:00 Where is Mike Rowe when you need him??

[@bradleynewman5714]

where can i get the sodium nitrite from?

[@UltimateCARNUT]

thanks for the video love the nissan vids!

[@237amStudios]

Can you pass on the dimensions of the new tray? I just order my Pro and getting my channel started, hoping to make the drainage setup before the unit shows up. I'm thinking of using the provided trays for another project.

[@DerekGranquist]

Would you be able to give us a ballpark on the pan cost so we know what to expect if we find a local shop that’s willing?

[@mudhaula]

Great video! Is there an alternative for the sodium nitrite? I can seem to find it online or in my area. Thanks!!

[@BrandonBurns1985]

Follow up video of the corrosion receipe results?

[@xtremewrapsapparel5872]

Man oh man finally someone intelligent! I’ve been seeing all these Crossfire Pro vids and everyone bitches about the 2 pc design, everyone has sheet metal shop and none have thought to just rebuild a one pc… lmao it’s about time someone did it…

[@raymcar]

Do you find that leaving the water in the table that your other equipment has mort corrosion forming?

[@Welder6131]

Pretty sure your shop vac hates you and is planning a mutiny lol good video.

[@edwardramirez1777]

What is the difference between nitrate and nitrite seems like they don't sell it online anymore

[@bpdp379]

A single Oxygen atom…Nitrite is an antioxidant while Nitrate is less so and Nitrite is synthetic.

[@gorillamotors]

Like your one piece table, I assume you did not bolt it down as the weight of 15 gallons of fluid would not really move the table. Or did you?

[@MattVerley]

You are correct; it is not bolted down. I do need to be a little careful when trying to slide heavy sheets of material around on the table, but it is obvious if the tray shifts a little and this hasn't been an issue. I had planned on welding some holding tabs to the frame to lock the tray into place...but so far it hasn't been necessary.

[@gorillamotors]

@@MattVerley Thanks. I thought so. I think I am going to use the 2 piece right now but not using those sheet metal screws to bolt the down. Also, did you find that the self drilling machine screws were self drilling? I had to drill holes in the square tubing first then use them.

[@formekinetics691]

Pan cost...dang..how much did the tig cost?

[@MattVerley]

I bought the Dynasty setup as a package used from a fab shop in Seattle a few years ago; it had 14 hours on it and came with a bunch of stuff...basically the dynasty 350DX TIGrunner package with extra torches, wireless foot pedal, fingertip controls, consumables, etc. I paid $7000 for it. At the time, that was about 1/2 of what everything would have cost new (not sure what current prices are). It's a great machine. It replaced a Synchrowave 200 that I had bought new a few years earlier; no real complaints about the synchrowave, but comparing it to the dynasty 350 is apples and oranges.

[@BrandonBurns1985]

What did the pan cost

[@1ton4god]

I'd love to know what the pan cost?

[@cygnet1963]

Hi Matt how is the water treatment working? Thinking about trying it.

[@MattVerley]

It seems to be working extremely well; the water remains clear with zero rust on any of the slats

[@cygnet1963]

@@MattVerley I read that there is a toxic smell when your cutting in the comments. Have you noticed that? Thanks for your help on this!

[@baxta0922]

Would you be willing to share the dimensions on your pan? I’m headed into town tomorrow to have one made and my water table is the only box that hasn’t shipped and I have the rest of my boxes.

[@MattVerley]

52" x 36" x 2.25" L x W x H. Also had them put a 3/4" NPT drain in the center.

[@baxta0922]

@@MattVerley thank you sir you are the man!

[@twm4259]

@@MattVerley What gauge of stainless did you spec?

[@cozylofinook]

What’s the best way to get a hold of you? Interested in some parts

[@MattVerley]

If you are a facebook user you can look me up there and send me a message. You can also contact me through my business webpage contact form at www.timberdrone.com. I'm hesitant to share my email address on a youtube comment...lest some joker sign me up for the hair club for men or something like that :) I'm not really in the business of doing cut-to-order CNC plasma work, but I'd be happy to come up with a quote for your project.

[@cozylofinook]

@@MattVerley facebook request sent

[@nextgencustoms-anthony9275]

Oregon!! Where abouts? Im in Salem.

[@MattVerley]

I'm in between Portland and Seaside

[@nextgencustoms-anthony9275]

@@MattVerley oh right on! Not too far. If you ever need a hand working on a cool project dont hesitate to reach out.

[@mattwalcott1213]

The table does not take 75 Gallons. What are the measurements you used for the amount of water the table needs?

[@MattVerley]

I don't believe there was any point that I insinuated the table held 75 gallons. It certainly doesn't. It holds around 15 gallons. I did, however, make up enough concentrate to make about 75 gallons of the table fluid and stored it in a bottle for future cleanings.