CNC Router Retrofit: Mach3 to Masso G3 Touch

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I’m finally ready to make some upgrades to my JCut 6090 CNC Router. In this video, I replace the stepper motors with servo motors, replace the Mach3 controller with a Masso G3 Touch controller, and swap out my 2.2 kw spindle with a 2.5 kw ATC spindle. I also add a hand-wheel pendant controller, a spindle tool release button, a tool height setter, and wire up a 3D touch probe. I machine some aluminum motor mounts using my Super Prolight CNC mill and make some metal brackets using my DIY fiber laser cutter….hope you enjoy!
Links to components used:
Masso G3 Touch Controller: www.masso.com....
750W Servo motor & Drive: amzn.to/3SXaWjY
1.5KW Servo motor & Drive: www.ebay.com/i...
Meanwell 24v Power Supply: amzn.to/3sQev0W
Couplers: amzn.to/3N0AlFD
DIN Rail Terminal blocks: amzn.to/3uvISdn
DB25 cable: amzn.to/3Rh9h6H
DB25 breakout boards: amzn.to/3Th3Xmr
Push button: amzn.to/47SxzKW
Step down voltage converter: amzn.to/3SZkgUt
Handwheel pendant: www.aliexpress...
3D Touch probe: www.aliexpress...
Tool setter: www.aliexpress...
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[@T0tenkampf]

I really like that JCut router that you started with, it looks to have some nice design features. Your holesaw drill guide solution is pretty smart. Once you can just make tools like that then you have to change your entire mindset on how you approach problems...that's nice.

[@GerhardGulewicz]

this information is perfect for every DIY enthusiast! We have all the toys to make this happen 😂

[@cunninghamguitarz9828]

Mate who are you really your level of skills is phenomenal, basically you can bill your own CNC brand of machine wow! amazing engineering set of skills the you have going, I wish that I was your neighbour, thanks for showing how you do Travis.

[@diyfiberlaser]

Wow, thanks!

[@DoRC]

Man has a fiber laser cutter in his garage but his vice isn't mounted down :-)

[@roundcheesewheel]

So jealous of all of your toys! I'd never leave the garage

[@thomasbonse]

Who says he does?

[@rrr92462]

Great vid! Love your solutions to your designs. You design, engineer, and make everything yourself.

[@graveurgraveur2691]

Great job! You make me fell like upgrading my 750 x 1000 Workbee cnc.

[@diyfiberlaser]

I used to have one of those! I upgraded it as far as I could, then eventually sold it to get this machine.

[@jeanphilippepoirier6130]

Awesome content Travis! Suggestion: Replace the curved jaw flexible couplings with zero backlash ones. They look like a spring in the middle. They are more suitable to servo applications.

[@ikbendusan]

you can use this type but you need good quality ones; these cheap chinese couplers are very springy and inconsistent

[@barrysteer6216]

Done the same as my chinese 6090 was really dodgy. But time to redo it again and upgrade it.

[@APTLouis]

😎 Thx for excellent content

[@norrisnetllc]

Nice work my friend!

[@adygee]

Excellent work! Planning an ATC router build for next year, using a Centroid Acorn; great to see the ATC working nicely! Could I ask what the music is at the end of the video? It's great, but Google can't tell me what it is...!

[@diyfiberlaser]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXvQeZqJZr2FpKcfeature=shared&t=291

[@uliseszx6044]

Make tool holders with an open structure so you can quickly see the tools you have placed. 😉👌

[@cnxunuo]

you probably dont want to use that type of tool holder pocket, there’s no positive lock, and during heavy roughing, iso20 taper will fretting corrode, get stuck in the spindle, needs some help from the snap in type pocket to eject successfully. Using the exact same spindle, learned it the hard way! Solution, snap in plastic pocket, or HSK25E!

[@diyfiberlaser]

Thanks for the advise...I'll see if I can make a plastic insert to grip the tools

[@cnxunuo]

@@diyfiberlaser i printed some from PLA, lasted more than a year of daily use, can share the model

[@diyfiberlaser]

Thanks, I appreciate it! I would gladly use your model if you want to send it to [e-mail]@@cnxunuo

[@pyro1596]

Murphy's law bit me in the ass at work after I mentioned that nothing could go wrong with my VMC. Turned it on and the controller was dead. Depending on how much a repair/replacement costs, we might go to a Masso G3 Touch and have a technician install it

[@mikeandhismachines]

looks like the tool setter on the J-cut was triggering on the overtravel circuit and not the sensitive touch off circuit. Should be able to see almost no movement when it touches off (at least not the 1/4" I saw!)

[@diyfiberlaser]

I thought that also at first, but it's not...if it goes a little further it triggers the overtravel. I have the same tool setter on my CNC mill and it triggers immediately...I'm not sure why this one acts differently.

[@PhoKingLitMedia]

Can you provide a link to the mounting arm you used for the masso touch?

[@mryoutuser]

Hi great video with a lot of useful information. I want to ask you about your spindle VFD Drive Model Name/number , and does it provide hight torque at low speeds ? Thank you very much

[@kevinwillis6707]

hi, is that dust shoe your design? looks like it would be more efficient than the one i use. its interesting how your fiber laser is set up, saves fishing small parts out of dirty water using a plasma cutter😄 i wish i had half your ability with electronics and technical knowledge. cheers.

[@diyfiberlaser]

No, I bought this one: amzn.to/3QXnXYr

[@ikbendusan]

am i seeing this correctly? no bearing blocks? motors are not designed for axial load

[@diyfiberlaser]

Yes...uggggh...when I opened it up I was surprised to see they designed it like this. I have too much on my plate at the moment, but I'd like to address it in the future...I think it's going to require replacing all of them, since they aren't machined to fit on blocks

[@ikbendusan]

@@diyfiberlaser could be a good excuse to buy a lathe hehehe ... yeah buying new ones is probably cheaper. i got c5 precision ground screws off of some alibaba company, i paid $500 for x y and z (840, 540 and 720 mm length, 25, 25, 32 mm diameter respectively) with custom end-machining

[@ikbendusan]

also just noticed you already have a lathe lol

[@diyfiberlaser]

@@ikbendusan it's pretty tiny though, so I can still use the excuse to get a larger one! : ) I will probably just custom order them like you did

[@Cartman_77]

Great vid, thank you! What type of sheet bending tool are you using?

[@diyfiberlaser]

It's one of these cheap 3-in-1 machines: amzn.to/4crFYHv

[@pfabiszewski]

Please next time show the mounting process of the components :)

[@soonhengkang3727]

hi sir what is the brand of the cnc milling u using?

[@PhoKingLitMedia]

DO you have a link for the ATC spindle ?

[@stefanholzel1788]

Hi, was it necessary to tune your servos? They sounds really smooth!

[@diyfiberlaser]

No, they all seemed to work great using the default parameters...I only had to change the encoder resolution to get the max speed out of them with the Masso

[@accularoboticaindustrial7171]

Hi , Here is Marcos from Brazil , Did u build this laser machine ? , I´d like to build one like this , Can u share the devices and where to buy them ?

[@Basement_CNC]

well i guess that answers the question if you like the masso or not 😂

[@SimjetAU]

The new ATC spindle..do you have the model of it please?

[@diyfiberlaser]

I've seen it listed as TL-0840i or DGZX-0840i2

[@silverwaffles]

What names the services more useful than the syepperotor? Is it just power?

[@diyfiberlaser]

The servos are faster, quieter, and depending on the encoder resolution, more accurate. I notice the cut quality to be a little better than what I was getting before with the steppers.

[@thesignspecialist1067]

How much was the fiber laser to make?

[@diyfiberlaser]

It was roughly $15k...I break in down in the video series: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pV7Ih4ekhJWnfK8

[@Chris-bg8mk]

I like to keep a sharp cutting tool in the collet when changing spindles too! 😂

[@JSound777]

Great job! But... It’s not clear why such powerful servos are needed? You are not even using 50% of the power of the machine when working.

[@ikbendusan]

he could have used 200 W servos and it would have probably been fine

[@marksanders4815]

Pimpy unit.