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@Some-nerd-who-tinkers5 ай бұрын
Mix carbon fiber PETG with ninja flex TPU
@eskanderx10275 ай бұрын
ABS + chocolate 😋
@Some-nerd-who-tinkers5 ай бұрын
Fiber glass composite pla 😋😋😋
@RENATINHOBR995 ай бұрын
maybe PLA with a core of water soluble support like polydissolve, maybe to do some really light weight prints, insted of solid lines you will get tubes of PLA
@lucasverocai16315 ай бұрын
This process can indeed open a path to multimaterial filament such as continuous carbon/glass fiber core embedded (inside an easy to respool material at first, for test purposes), the non strech fiber mechanical properties might be a hassle to deal with though... PA6/12, PC, TPU or Nylon for high end continuous fiber embedded filament, but might be even trickier to process. Anyway, good luck if you try this. Great video as always !
@timseguine25 ай бұрын
"Yo Dawg, I heard you like layer adhesion problems. So I put layers in your filament so you can have layer adhesion problems while you're having layer adhesion problems."
@ericwheelhouse43715 ай бұрын
You are having adhesion problems with pla?
@timseguine25 ай бұрын
@@ericwheelhouse4371 14:28
@djordjezivic24815 ай бұрын
@@ericwheelhouse4371 never under estimate a bad printer (my 2018 wanhao duplicator i3)
@stevrgrs4 ай бұрын
So basically you’re doing what candy makers have done for over 100 years :P 😂
@comethiburs23264 ай бұрын
@@stevrgrs candy makers dont make candy with two different plastics and different melting points. Stuffed candy is generally coated or injected, as for hard candy it's rarely if ever done with a mix of, let's say butter based caramel and hard candy, as the butter caramel would leak out of the strip before it hardens, ruining the pattern. Irony or not it's apple to oranges. he's right about temp differentials being a problem with multimaterial printing.
@dittot5 ай бұрын
Roughly every year or so, someone makes a completely game-changing 3D printing video showcasing an inventive new way of doing things which could open up so many new possibilities. This is one of those.
@StarkRG5 ай бұрын
And at least a third of those seem to be done by CNC Kitchen. How many of the things Stephan has showcased over the years have become standard practice?
@TD-er5 ай бұрын
Yep I was wondering which 3D printer manufacturer is also watching this and thinking to add a filament-diameter scanner into the printhead to be able to automatically compensate for under/over extrusion during printing. Maybe this is even more important for flexible filaments to get a really consistent printing results?
@givemeanameman15 ай бұрын
Its interesting, but its already being done... Continuous Carbon Fiber filaments for high strength parts for example. "fiber" filaments rarely have increased strength, because the fibers have to be chopped up so small that they don't do much. So Continuous Carbon Fiber filament and the like were invented to change this. The game changer is being able to make multifilament at home, even as a proof of concept.
@mannycrafts5 ай бұрын
Wow, this is insane. Mans maxed out his engineering level and just grinding sidequests now.
@Some-nerd-who-tinkers5 ай бұрын
He’s completed the CNC part of his username and will soon begin the Kitchen stage. Edit: tbh he’s already cooking
@hyozanhades095 ай бұрын
He is manufacturing a new reality for earth in his kitchen !!!
@ameliabuns40585 ай бұрын
Lol
@drummerboymaddux5 ай бұрын
😂😂
@brandonsaffell41005 ай бұрын
If you think our man has reached his final form you underestimate him.
@OldCurmudgeon3DP5 ай бұрын
Hard candy is made in a similar fashion. All the design is created in a large (8-9" diameter) chunk then stretched into the final bite-size form. The pattern is retained through the stretching process same as with yours.
@EFLO3D5 ай бұрын
Same with “millefiori” glass art.
@benjaminvdvyt5 ай бұрын
This was the first thing that came to mind. Watching how candy is made, is extremely similar and follow the same principles.
@OG-ProfessorFarnsworth5 ай бұрын
His old video about the PC core ABS he mentioned actually talks about the same thing. I believe the original researchers made large blanks with the desired pattern that they then had a machine to extrude into a filament. Exactly what you’re thinking! But requires specialized equipment. Assuming I’m remembering correctly! 😅
@wakafeek5 ай бұрын
Beat me to it! I was about to say this is how they do designs in saltwater taffy too
@dooleve5 ай бұрын
Funnily enough, this is mentioned in the subtitles at 13:58, but he doesn't say it out loud
@whatevernamegoeshere36445 ай бұрын
I work maintenance in a cable factory. The first 5 minutes of the video were pretty much most accessories of an extruder re-invented lol. You should really look up Kabmak extruders to get some inspirations because there are things like vacuum attachments and straightening rollers that could be added even to your machines. You could also add a mechanical brake to the pay-off spool to add pre-tensioning and it would make the plastic more consistent as it would feed through straight. The rollers serve the same purpose, but for wobbly lines. Another important addition would be a hot air blower to pre-heat the filament so you couldn't have to run a volcano type nozzle or anything special. You would need a lot less forces on that filament if it went into the nozzle already at say 50C. As for what you could be adding to it? Oh boy! Make 3 separate filament pay-offs with U-shaped "shells" on 2 of them and one filler. You could just add nylon strings or fishing line to the center spool and print multiple times as much filament at once. Hell, add a caterpillar-type tensioner brake to it and you're gonna have time to change filament on the go without interruption if you find a way to weld them in between.
@jakeharms13865 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. This is exactly what I wish every comment on KZbin was like
@shawnalfaro69435 ай бұрын
I agree with all of these suggestions! Preheating the filament is a great idea, even with something simple as a halogen light bulb. And the roller suggestion is also great!
@Sparkynutz815 ай бұрын
Preheat the filament too was first thing I thought when he was struggling to pull it through too. Can't believe he didn't think of that when he was basically already doing that to stretch down in size to insert it.
@bastienx85 ай бұрын
Just putting a hot air blower or halogen lamp at the entry is not very energy efficient, for a process that takes hours this is something to consider
@sementhrower4205 ай бұрын
Off topic, but I think you might be the right person to ask this, if you don't mind helping out a random internet stranger :D I'm working on creating coaxial nylon-nichrome wires where I want to embed a nichrome wire in the core of a nylon monofilament line. The ultimate goal is to achieve this with 0.1mm D nylon and 0.01mm D nichrome wire, but I'll first try to do it with larger D nylon. What Stephan built here is roughly what I am also planning on doing, and in addition also feeding the nichrome wire through the core of the nozzle. Do you think this would be workable and do you have any tips? Thanks in advance!
@lescarneiro5 ай бұрын
This TPU core experiment is just GENIUS! That's why I love your channel, you do science with your experiments, not just funny things for likes and subs
@danilolattaro5 ай бұрын
Absolutely genius!
@zackj9975 ай бұрын
Why a solid core instead of the TPU and PLA emulsified together? People already use silk PLA for flexibility in certain applications since it already has TPU in it.
@rich10514145 ай бұрын
@@zackj997 The solid core unmixed turns it into a composite. When you have two materials with different properties together, their strengths can add together in ways that wouldn't if they were thoroughly mixed. In this case, the flexibility of the TPU functions like dampening rebar, preventing fracture propagation while preserving the stiffness that PLA offers.
@ronnetgrazer3625 ай бұрын
@@zackj997 Really? Most of my silk prints seem more brittle, not less. I'm a sucker for off-brand budget filament deals so that might be a factor.
@kbee2255 ай бұрын
It sounds genius if you know very little polymer science. PU and PLA are not chemically similar so they form what we call non-compatible blends. These blends are basically those that cause boundary layer separation because the two materials are not chemically bonding with each other, this forms a weak material that is worse in most aspects than the homopolymers themself. This is why when making polymers blends with dissimilar materials we use compatibilizers to act as a glue and bind both the materials together.
@ac2812015 ай бұрын
4:13 This phenomenon is actually a result of two combined effects: necking and strain hardening. When tension is applied to the nylon filament, it begins to undergo plastic deformation at its weaker points, leading to a reduction in diameter. At the same time, the nylon string strengthens in these areas of reduced thickness, which concentrates the strain on the thicker segments of the string. The combination of these effects causes the string to shrink to a new, constant diameter before ultimately breaking. Articles for more information: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necking_(engineering) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_hardening
@miqo855 ай бұрын
aka continuous necking
@hugofernandez85225 ай бұрын
It's kind of right but not quite, the effect is due to the majority of the chains in the polimer getting aligned and because all the chains are in the same orientation they become stronger
@hugofernandez85225 ай бұрын
In amorfous materials like polymers you don't have strain hardening like in metallic materials
@ac2812015 ай бұрын
@@hugofernandez8522 Yes, you are correct, in the case of polymers this effect is the result of chain alignment and not crystal shifts like in metals, but still, this effect is called strain hardening (or work hardening) in both cases
@louisvaught24955 ай бұрын
As others have mentioned, this is not work hardening, it's chain alignment. No, they are not the same thing. Work hardening is a crystallographic behavior (polymers do have crystal structure) while chain alignment is just generally the idea that you can do things to the material that cause the long molecules to be oriented in roughly the same direction. Chain alignment doesn't require work-hardening because polymers are viscous and have huge molecules. Things like melt-spinning can also cause higher chain alignment. Chain alignment also doesn't have to interact with the crystal structure of the plastic, and happens even in amorphous materials. It's just about the average direction the polymer chains are oriented.
@tomallo995 ай бұрын
That's insane, really, creathing a visible logo INSIDE of a filament spool, with hardware that's DIY and accessible to a hobbyist? Man, you just keep on delivering bangers, your ingenuity is amazing
@XVRickXV5 ай бұрын
You could think of the TPU as muscle and the PLA as bone and have them switch places. The tpu absorbing more impact on the outside and the PLA receiving less shock because of being shielded by the flexible TPU the same way that flesh protects bones most of the time. Awesome experiment!
@lickytime96835 ай бұрын
The outside of the filament would also be bending more than the core, so having the outside made of tpu must be beneficial too
@cfeigel5 ай бұрын
The WInFiDEL sensor lets you measure filament diameter. Now you can implement a PID loop to automatically figure out the proper temperature at a given speed. If you want faster production, turn up the speed and the PID should correct for the change.
@AndrewAHayes5 ай бұрын
This is why I love this channel, most of the other channels I used to watch are either all doing Voron builds or reviewing the same printer that's been done a hundred times already. This channel is unique!
@cmbaz11405 ай бұрын
I think 3d printer experts should learn more from candy makers...the more i learn the more i am convinced...
@not2unknown15 ай бұрын
A PLA core with a water soluble PVA mantle could create interesting structures or grids when you print it and put it in water. Kind of like how aerogel is made, but bigger.
@ziocrielo61485 ай бұрын
3d printed sponge lol
@paulpoleon85705 ай бұрын
Aero light plastic for rc plane wings or something
@ericbuchner29825 ай бұрын
Unfortunately with the constant cross-section shown in the video I don't think this would give useable results. The core never bonds to itself, so if you dissolved the outer layer the entire print would just fall apart. It might work if you could vary the cross-section so the core sticks out in places, but that would be much harder to get working.
@markswayne63265 ай бұрын
If you printed it with stripes of PVA that are diagonal edge to edge but left solid PLA layers between, the PVA might be able to dissolve out while leaving behind a structure that wouldn’t come apart.
@MarcStollmeyer5 ай бұрын
Embedding your logo in the filament is such a flex and extra way of tagging your prints as genuine.
@capslfern25555 ай бұрын
I love that, watermarked 3D prints
@lucianoag9995 ай бұрын
Except that everyone can do it.
@greenboy3d5 ай бұрын
What a coincidence that we both made a video about mixing TPU with PLA at the same time hahaha 😅 But I was a bit faster 🙃
@Craftlngo5 ай бұрын
Upvote for more awareness. Your idea to mount a corkscrew extruder on a 3D printer could be a real game changer!
@mr.shplorb6625 ай бұрын
Not to brag or anything
@csforesman5 ай бұрын
Wow. So glad I saw this comment and went to check out your channel. As cool as the idea in this CNC kitchen video is (and no slight to Stefan, this really is a great idea), I think your pellet extruder has way more potential to revolutionize 3d printing. Amazing work.
@Nachtschicht15 ай бұрын
I've recently seen your video about that and I think you deserve a lot more attention. What would you think about about combining your idea of direct printing from pellets with Stephan's filament-extruder and Thomas' thickness-sensor to regulate the speed of the extruder to match the amount of filament that the printer needs to build a printer which makes its own filament on the fly? That would solve the problems with the much heavier printhead and reduced printing-quality.
@greenboy3d5 ай бұрын
I think this idea might work, there are also ideas like implementing a real-time pressure sensor or AI camera to measure the flow and to automatically adjust it in real time. The only thing that needs to be done is the research & development which is costly and since I have spent most of my savings on R&D for the extruder itself... For this reason I keep all these things in mind but for now focus on releasing the extruder so everyone can benefit from it... 🙂
@loganluckless3725 ай бұрын
I work at a company called Hills inc. where we do cross section logo fibers and other wild multi extrusion projects. Cross section logo fibers like that are used a decent amount in industry by basically making a dot matrix on the core of each fiber and routing the colored polymer to it's place in the matrix.
@janbeck82695 ай бұрын
How about filaments with an embedded cf or Kevlar strand. Is that done?
@Kronash5 ай бұрын
used work in a factory making plastics. the speed of the puller is Very important for final dimensions
@lukesmith90595 ай бұрын
I would love to see more videos on metamaterials! If the stiffness of the tpu-pla is close to normal pla it would truly be the king of all printing materials for parts that don't need high temperature resistance.
@thomasmascitelli51593 ай бұрын
I love material science. The phenomena where the filament shrinks under tension is called "necking"
@TurboSunShine5 ай бұрын
Oh god i was so young back then... excellent technique! love the 4mm to 1.75 downsizing!
@Deveyus5 ай бұрын
I could imagine some tweaked slicer settings to optimize the use of these properties yielding some fantastic results.
@kylebuffington76735 ай бұрын
So many new ideas continue to pop up in 3D printing. Non-planar printing, arc overhangs, and now you are showing off multi-material filaments. Ten years from now, 3D printing is going to be absolutely off the charts.
@RolandKnall5 ай бұрын
This is just crazy and unbelievable cool! I think Filament recycling will become more affordable quite soon as a side-effect of more and more such videos popping up. But in any case, as an Austrian: saugeile Technik!
@FTBT3D5 ай бұрын
That TPU/PLA is so cool! what a great experiment
@antirez5 ай бұрын
Doing material research at home with cheap equipment and just an insane amount of smartness and dedication? Very cool.
@Avets6105 ай бұрын
Always pushing the limits of 3d printing, great job. The watermark filament honestly blew my mind.
@MatrixRay195 ай бұрын
Why not PLA core TPU shell?
@sephrosemary5 ай бұрын
Imagine finding a way to embed continious carbon fiber in a filament this way!
@UnCoolDad5 ай бұрын
This exists already in the high end commercial printer world.
@olafschermann15925 ай бұрын
Yeah, thats the way! And opensource it
@thenextlayer5 ай бұрын
As always, you're living in the year 3,000, and the rest of us are just trying to catch up. I don't know how you come up with these ideas, but keep it up :)
@skelliton_675 ай бұрын
The nylon string reducing in diameter when tensile force is applied is called "necking". I got this definition from google, "In engineering and materials science, necking is a mode of tensile deformation where relatively large amounts of strain localize disproportionately in a small region of the material. The resulting prominent decrease in local cross-sectional area provides the basis for the name neck."
@JakeWitmer4 ай бұрын
Can this be modeled in a bottom-up simulation?
@aymericbiancopelle11495 ай бұрын
TPU + PLA looks like forbidden candy
@startedtech5 ай бұрын
If its ever sold that TPU/PLA combo should be named Wagyu beef!
@Dwonis5 ай бұрын
Having a flexible core and a hard surface is what makes teeth so tough... so it could be called Wagyu Teeth! 😂
@martinsmith29485 ай бұрын
Once again he has changed the 3D printing world
@peterkiss12045 ай бұрын
I would drill that nozzle up to at least 1,8-1,9mm and pull the filament at above the breakpoint of the diameter/pulling force curve to achieve correct diameter and fuse the layers together properly. Also a loadcell controlled motor driver circuit would help keeping the pulling force constant.
@ZeFoxii5 ай бұрын
For the layer adhesion issues why not pull it twice once to get the diameter and then again at a higher speed and hotter temp just to make sure it fused together.
@thomasleftwite5 ай бұрын
You are a pioneer in expanding the possibilities for 3D printer users.
@thetheflyinghawaiian5 ай бұрын
I was just watching that artisan candy stretching youtube before this was suggested to me, similar concept in some ways!
@umikaliprivate5 ай бұрын
I dare you to print on a regular fdm 3D printer using solder. I mean it would be liquid af, but if you could cool it fast enough, this could be revolutionary.
@richardmillhousenixon13 күн бұрын
Solder melts significantly hotter than FDM filament, it's not really that feasible
@umikaliprivate13 күн бұрын
@@richardmillhousenixon I actually tried this, and it did seem to melt, but I wasn't able to find solder with a diameter of 1.75mm, or anything close to that, and my printer had it's extruder not attached to the print head, so I never got anywhere with it.
@yzkn88485 ай бұрын
for anyone who is willing to make a cursed filament, lemme give you a idea. LW Any material outside and any carbon fiber filament in the core or tpu in the core. not only this will make LW prints more stiff or flexible depending on application, it will make them more durable too while maintaining LW properties. Thank me later
@SamChaneyProductions5 ай бұрын
This is one of the coolest advancements in consumer 3D printing tech I've seen in a long time. What a great innovation. Even as a mechanical engineer I'm a little surprised how well you got this to work with such a simple setup, especially getting such disparate polymers into a single filament!
@ferrumignis5 ай бұрын
Rather than pulling the filament through the nozzle, I suspect a 3mm extruder pushing it into the nozzle is going to be faster and give much more repeatable diameter.
@jkachele5 ай бұрын
Hexagons are the best-agons! CGP Grey Reference!!!
@GinoTubaro5 ай бұрын
Abs outside, pva or any other soluble material inside could be a crazy tubing situation worth to research!
@TheToelle5 ай бұрын
A CNC-Kitchen Video 🎉 my Evening is saved.. Why my evening? Because each one of them teaches me enough to continue reading for hours… thank you!
@dummypg61295 ай бұрын
hmm would it be possible to get a very thin magnetic wires as core material for meta filament?... so basically print the 4mm with hollow core, then when extruding to 1.7mm add the wires? this could be a nice electronics application...
@sleeptyper5 ай бұрын
I have an idea. Make the filament have a clear core with transparent coloured shell, print a cool vase model on vase mode and find a way to send light thru the extruded filament. Maybe one of those 60mm LED pucks from eBay under the vase would do it. On the other hand, a black core with transparent shell could be very interesting as well.
@properprinting5 ай бұрын
Man, this is genius! The most interesting use case I've seen for the Prusa XL and this really inspires!
@martinsmith29485 ай бұрын
Babe wake up! CNC Kitchen just uploaded
@jercki725 ай бұрын
4:25 I remember something like this, a quick google search tells me it's called "necking". Don't remember that term but on the tensile strength curve it's the part where force stops increasing with deformation due to the section becoming smaller.
@maxlott402910 күн бұрын
Thanks
@arcrad5 ай бұрын
Dude you are the GOAT of 3d printing experiments. Is there anyone else out there doing stuff as cool?
@zootsuitpenguin5 ай бұрын
Added a like as ‘Hexagons are the Bestagons’
@ChrisHarmon15 ай бұрын
The wilder the hair gets, the better the engineering?
@PaulDominguez5 ай бұрын
How about PETG with a TPU core since those materials bind better
@ouansungyidan5 ай бұрын
Omg he made his own metamaterial at home. Kind of freaking out right now. That's a research gold mine.
@louisvaught24955 ай бұрын
It's not particularly useful due to the high shear during production. That imparts unfavorable structure on the material.
@ouansungyidan5 ай бұрын
@louisvaught2495 That's a great point, the production method can be improved. But the concept is still amazing. Hobbyist accessible metamaterials. That's still got me excited.
@louisvaught24955 ай бұрын
@@ouansungyidan You can work a bit to remove the molecular alignment, but in general the process being used to *make* the structure is what limits the final properties. This particular process being so accessible and macro-scale means you don't have much molecular control over what's coming out. The part of the video where Stefan discusses having to keep the filament from getting too soft is a great indication that the process is really dependent on the molecular order of the polymer, rather than the process having any control over it.
@epilepsianfall5 ай бұрын
Try the opposite, TPU with a stiff PLA core for strength. Might give you a strong "skeleton" to the floppy TPU.
@DrakeTain5 ай бұрын
Now that is neat.
@MooreAnalytical5 ай бұрын
Seems like you need some post processing to keep the filament from delaminating. You think you could print in a heated chamber with the Prussia XL?
@TheOneAndOnlySatan5 ай бұрын
And again Stephan changed the 3D printing world again! What a legend!
@That_Gunner5605 ай бұрын
If you printed a small tube blank and manually ran a thread of carbon fiber or fiberglass through it, could you make FRP prints?
@luke_fabis5 ай бұрын
I wonder if this method could be used to make weird composites like Kai Parthy's experimental filaments from ~8 years ago, but in a more controlled manner. Say you could lay a bead of PVA or HIPS inside of a different filament to make printable capillaries. Or if you took an expanding filament like varioShore TPU and embedded it inside the same material without a blowing agent (plain old TPU in this example). Another possibility might be to include to take several materials that are chemically related, melt at similar temperatures, and are known to bond well, but which have substantially different properties. Like PETG, Hytrel, Arnitel, and other copolyesters. Or perhaps PLA and PHB. There might be an opportunity to start experimenting with 3D printed fiber optics, or at least crude light pipes, by embedding clear material inside opaque. In a similar vein, a strand of shape memory TPU embedded inside of a softer, more elastic TPU might have some interesting properties. One final idea. Existing composite filaments might be happier to bond together than plain virgin plastic. For example, PLA and TPU don't like to bond, but what about CF-PLA and CF-TPU? If you could coax the carbon fibers to tangle up or even migrate between layers, you might get much better bonding.
@r2c3po24 ай бұрын
Never done any 3d printing myself and so I am approaching this from a point of pure ignorance, but is there a different material that mixes better with both TPU and PLA, which could act as a buffer for better adhesion?
@sebastiendine48345 ай бұрын
What about extruding a thin copper wire within a pla filament? I am not sure how it would behave inside the extruder of the 3D printer. You could try with other metal wires. I think a 0.5mm or .25mm diameter copper wire could work. It could be useful to stiffen the 3D printed parts or add some electromagnetic properties (shielding, polarization, meta-material) or make coils? You could create some strongly anisotropic electromagnetic properties due to the intrinsic layer structure of the 3D printed parts.
@Eric_In_SF3 ай бұрын
It’s actually 3 phenomena Necking: Localized thinning and formation of a narrow region that can propagate. Cold Drawing: Stretching that aligns polymer chains and reduces diameter in a wave-like manner. Viscoelastic Behavior: Combined elastic and viscous response leading to slow deformation.
@jan_harald5 ай бұрын
I think one interesting way to use this, is with multi-extrusion/dual-nozzle printers, themselves, printing a multi-layer spool as the nozzles are fixed, extruding from both, would mean the base printed spool would already have a changing pattern when printed with, but also, it should probably help with metamaterials, as you can have each material as their own perfect temp, without letting the other material cool down, both the changing position, not being in perfectly straight layers, and having both of them be hot while laid down, should greatly decrease the risk of delaminating, imho
@CatMan364 ай бұрын
4:27 The phenomenon is based on the crystallization of thermoplastics. To summarize: when a thermoplastic is pulled apart, the polymer chains in it lie next to each other, making the thermoplastic stronger, as more intermolecular attractive forces can be formed. As a result the crystalline part of the thermoplastic isn‘t pulled apart, but the weaker non-stretched gets stretched. Have a look here: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallisation_(Polymer)
@xankersmith91945 ай бұрын
You should try putting the Winfidel sensor in the feedback loop of an automatic controller for detecting filament thickness. It could actually be accurate compared with the pulling-a-paper-clip-and-hoping method.
@gustavoheck23785 ай бұрын
I think you should try TPU with a core of PETG for printing airless basketballs. So the TPU would get the perfect layer adhesion, while the PETG would make it bounce
@elongatedmuskrat51705 ай бұрын
This effect is called necking. It comes from the alignment of polymer chains. The modulus of elasticity of the material also greatly increases when necking occurs as the aligned chains creates higher crystallinity. This can also occur in multiple steps of necking down the diameter until the stress required to force the diameter down via aligning the chains further is greater than the yield stress of the filament at that point. PS: as a polymer engineering student, i love your videos.
@CrassKitten1245 ай бұрын
Such a cool concept! I wonder if you could print the pulled TPU-core filament into a second 4mm blank, and then repeat the pulling process to get even smaller TPU fibers
@WillPower3115 ай бұрын
I know when they do aluminum extrusions they stepped down sizes gradually so if you were going from 3 mm to say 2.5mm to 2.mm to 1.75mm would be easier on the filament
@jamesalewis5 ай бұрын
4:19 the phenomenon is called "necking" most commonly, at least when considering metallic materials, but I see no reason a new term should be invented for polymers.
@jessicarussell27125 ай бұрын
Put copper wire in it to make 3d printed coils for motors use the plastic bottles that makes a tube to thred the wire through while extruding on your filament making machine
@ReassuredPrimrose5 ай бұрын
mabye resize it in 2 steps, with the final one being much hotter but like 2 mm to the 1.75mm. this could help the bonding problem
@RooMan935 ай бұрын
Imagine having a binary stream of conductive or IR sensitive filament inside and it becoming a type of DRM.
@briannewman62165 ай бұрын
Composite filaments could be used to significantly improve the mechanical properties of FDM printed objects.
@coleabbott34325 ай бұрын
You should use the tpu core pla to try and print one of those 3d printed basketballs. Everyone complains pla is too stiff, and tpu is too soft.
@domkri95025 ай бұрын
Every time you publish a Video it takes two days and your content is featured by all the 3D printing/ Maker Websites, this is amazing. Thanks for your R&D work and making it open to use for everyone Danke 🎉
@xilw3r5 ай бұрын
The effect of diameter reducing under tension is called necking
@Souliset5 ай бұрын
weave it like a multicolored rope before pulling it
@jellevandergraaf93035 ай бұрын
I believe the thinning phenomena that occurs when pulling polymers like TPU is called "necking"
@lincolnsiebelink66285 ай бұрын
make a carbon fiver core around nylon and rig a servo with a razor to cut it off each time you lift the print head.
@deliziosetiefkuhlkost24635 ай бұрын
Please do a dedicated video about the strength and toughness of some filament combinations. I am definitely interested in the mechanical properties and think that it could lead to some promising future filaments
@LeFranzMan5 ай бұрын
Mixing the materials (PLA+TPU) is cool, but limits the recyclability :(
@cbpcbpcbp5 ай бұрын
Use the multicoulered matirial to print a fillament for recising and you will get an amazing fillament
@CaptainSlug5 ай бұрын
Wait, if tricolor PLA were used through one of those experimental printers with a rotational axis extruder you could setup the slicer to change the rotational position of the extruder during printing in order to change and vary which color is visible on the outside of the print. This would actually allow you to print out those FEA models in full representative color. You would however have little or no control of the color output for dithering purposes beyond the available color gradient in the filament itself. Orientation would only allow you to control the portion of the filament that's shown on the outside of the part. So filament color blends with high contrast might allow for some in-model color variation without having to do any of the filament changes that a multi-material setup would otherwise need to perform to switch colors. Purge towers or other inbetween-material purge methods would no longer be required for switching colors. The major hurdles to the above would be setting up the slicer to understand how the rotation relates to the colors available, and more complicated from the hardware/firmware side would be the need to monitor the orientation of the filament color itself as it either enters or exits the extruder. It would be a very challenging but unique project.
@JonS5 ай бұрын
Really interesting work. This opens up a lot of new possibilities. Although maybe not as much as your new mathematics at 11:51 (four halves) 😂
@Doile9113 ай бұрын
9:08, No, but 3mm filament is usually cheaper, since its not as widely used.
@Markfps5 ай бұрын
What a crazy idea PLA + TPU core, amazing job man! This is surely a neat improvement for prints that will face a lot of physical stress
@cfeigel5 ай бұрын
I think your PLA with TPU inside needs a core of carbon fiber inside that.
@-Xaverius5 ай бұрын
This is reminiscent of the process which is used by candymakers to create pattern in hard candy
@PLr1c3r5 ай бұрын
There's so many interesting possibilities mixing different materials within one extrusion. This is definitely one of those ah-ha moments for the technology. CF Nylon with TPU or ASA with TPU could make interesting case studies. Delving further in mixing multiple materials to harness more properties is another product of these types of explorations. GJ Stefan always keeping us on our toes!
@erokfussell5 ай бұрын
A couple of weeks ago I printed a TPU/PETG filament. It worked great for the printable balls! Improved bounce compared to TPU and much more durable than PETG.
@JD2jr.5 ай бұрын
I feel like you should have an extruder on that nozzle that pushes the filament through at an equal rate (volume/time) as the spool so you can really melt the stuff together and just spool it instead of actually stretching it.
@JD2jr.5 ай бұрын
Could also try stepping the size down more slowly, do 3>2.25 and then 2.25>1.75 or something. I would think a smaller change would also result in less inconsistency.
@forrestliew5 ай бұрын
Instead of pulling the filament from the nozzle, maybe you can try pushing it through like how a 3D printer normally works?
@Bdcrock3 ай бұрын
Bro has discovered common sense congrats you’re smarter than this guy when it comes to this type of common sense you should be proud
@evilratchet7775 ай бұрын
Extrusion process engineer here. The phenomenon where you can stretch hot plastic is known as "drawdown." That's also the name of the process you are using. The simple explanation is that this phenomenon occurs due to internal tensions pulling material from the "corners" of the part to fill in the middle, where the material is splitting under tension. It helps to visualize it as a continuous landslide from the hilltops into a valley that keeps growing longer. You can also get something known as "die swell" as plastic expands due to the pressure drop at the die openings. Die swell isn't really something we have to consider with 3d printers, but it should be considered if you are extruding filament with an Archimedes type extruder. As for your filament layer bonding problems, you may be able to solve that by preheating the filament before drawing it down. Also try over-extruding your print by 3-5%, this should help layer bondability. Also, tension is everything. Pre-tensioning will help both the bondability, and help keep the filament from rotating during drawdown. The more aligned and balanced the tension is on either side of the nozzle, the more consistent the final filament turns out. Good luck, and keep up the amazing videos! "Like everything else in life, 3d printing is just a primitive, degenerate form of extruding." -Bender
@WF3D5 ай бұрын
Absolutely insane engineering! Great Idea! The PLA TPU could be great to make bouncy stuff I guess? Stiffness of PLA combined with inner flexibility 😮 What about an inlay of PVA in PLA? You could have really tiny channels in every layer creating a sponge like material 🤔
@jonathan35185 ай бұрын
4:28 Necking. When it draws to a smaller diameter it is called necking.
@supercurioTube5 ай бұрын
This is absolutely amazing, I'm so impressed with what you came up with, so creative and well engineered at the same time. You ended on what you would try differently after exploring the reforming method and I can't wait for the next step.
@donaldburkhard79325 ай бұрын
Can you mix a hard center soft outside to use for prosthetic hands?
@klazzera5 ай бұрын
the phenomenon is yielding and chain alignment. when it stretches to the point that polymer chains are fully aligned, it reaches a higher modulus and strength and stops being the weak point so the thicker sections continue to stretch