Presidential Candidates on Same-Sex Marriage

Since the 2000 election, same-sex marriage has been a hot topic among presidential and vice presidential candidates.

[@nightcrawler2099]

Everyone has the right to get married and have a messy divorce.

[@coconutsciencegirl9232]

Yes. Marriage is between a man and a woman...right until the point when someone younger comes along ...or a porn star. Then you can f$ck around as long as your wife doesn’t know.

[@jdub1768]

No they don’t because it goes against God

[@nightcrawler2099]

@@jdub1768 who came up with the idea of getting married? Humans.

[@jdub1768]

@@nightcrawler2099 God did, it’s supposed to be a man leaves and joins with his wife and they become one flesh.

[@nightcrawler2099]

@@jdub1768 never heard that. Who cares? Let people marry people from the same team. Why should I deny 2 people the life they want? Don't affect me. I think marriage is a joke regardless of what genders the 2 people are.

[@glossygloss472]

The fact that Dick Cheney was more liberal on this topic than Bush 😂

[@jeffrey93849]

Dick Cheney’s daughter was gay

[@unownunown1530]

The only reason dick cheney was open about gay marriage is because his daughter was a lesbian, thats it. And you know this is the only reason because of all the other horrible policies he supported and out into place.

[@neon-astronaut]

Cause his daughter gay

[@danielmallory4687]

Unfortunately gay marriage leans left as a straight Republican it should be allowed by our constitution

[@quentingilbert5605]

If you think abt it, it’s actually extremely conservative. True conservatives think government should stay out of marriage

[@scottashcraft7652]

Losing a morality battle with Dick Cheney is a hard loss

[@romilrh]

This was a special case, because Dick Cheney's daughter was gay. He told Bush that he could not side with him on that stance when he was selected as VP

[@Samuraikush420]

My thoughts exactly lmfaooooo

[@Jonathan-pg2hd]

Very hard pahahahaha

[@scottashcraft7652]

@Alleyup1994 USA Because this is the land of the free not the land of being held hostage by antiquated beliefs.

[@scottashcraft7652]

@Alleyup1994 USA hopefully you only have sex in the missionary position or you’re just being a hypocrite

[@HolowatyVlogs]

I’m actually shocked Cheney had a more progressive stance than McCain.

[@michaelmccuskey8113]

His daughter is a lesbian, and he is not heartless, in fact he has had 3

[@dlr6666]

@@michaelmccuskey8113 "he is not heartless"

[@michaelmccuskey8113]

@@dlr6666 okay, he has been at times, literally

[@ashkitt7719]

@@michaelmccuskey8113 Tell that to the Afgans he was personally responsible for slaughtering

[@michaelmccuskey8113]

@@ashkitt7719 I never said he was a great guy, I said he had the basic human decency to not throw his kids under the bus for political gain.

[@fuongbregas]

Biden: "No, Barack Obama nor I support redefining..." Years later: "SIKE!"

[@mihailojovicevic5576]

Hey you got to get those votes somehow.

[@chairwood]

ya honestly if someone is wrong they should never adjust their positions on issues using new understanding of the world. How hypocritical, it is, to not hold the same beliefs for your entire life.

[@chadmcdowell7999]

🤣🤣

[@kennethporter1244]

@John Hussar but when trump does it its bad.... lmao the left yall r crazy

[@llamaliammm]

Only bernie is the original lgbt supporter politician. I can honestly understand why ppl decide not to vote biden at all; hes actllh seriously vile and hypocritical. Unfortunately trump is just a tad worse

[@coachhbosoccer]

"Gay and lesbian people should have the right to be as miserable in marriage as everyone else" - Chris Rock

[@kedduff1814]

Most of them have open marriages or an agreement on some side fun once in a while. Oh its very different from the average marriage (For Gay men anyways)

[@dkncd]

@@kedduff1814 I’m a straight male, and my wife has plenty of gay male friends, and the few who are married are nothing like you mention. Don’t speak on things you don’t know about. We aren’t any better, there are plenty of messed up heterosexual people out there.

[@coachhbosoccer]

@@kedduff1814 from what I've seen not sure gay or lesbian people are less likely to be faithful than straight people. You have either a sense of commitment or faithfulness,or you don't.

[@tincanmaniac1931]

@@kedduff1814 70% of gay men are in monogamous relationships. Most gay men don't have multiple partners.

[@cassthegodslayer3372]

@@kedduff1814 woah that's just not true... most of my gay friends are monogamous and I am in a straight open relationship. False equivalency

[@simonhallin8909]

Bush: I don't support same-sex marriage CNN: Bush wins Alabama

[@VinnyTheTall]

It’s not just Bush....most Republicans win Alabama

[@simonhallin8909]

@@VinnyTheTall yeah i know, was more of a joke

[@quedielzy8579]

Actually same sex relationship are ok in Alabama if they're siblings

[@duran007fan5]

@@quedielzy8579 LOL

[@samdrow8268]

Sweet home...

[@troyzieman7177]

Give credit where credit is due . Dick Cheney's stand was the most courageous. It was done way before gay marriage was considered ok by the vast majority of the public

[@cheapyweepy5651]

His daughter is a lesbian he wasn't for it at first.

[@troyzieman7177]

@@cheapyweepy5651 I know but he could of side stepped the question . He took it on and actually used conservative values to back up the rationale

[@thekingbradable]

And considering he’s a conservative as well

[@MoeMoe-bb5ls]

So give credit for conservatives who today fight for regular marriage, even if it's unpopular by the general public

[@cheapyweepy5651]

@@MoeMoe-bb5ls that's not even true. I am a lesbian and a independent. Politicians do it for votes. I remember Obama being against gay marriage.

[@johndanielson3777]

I love how Cheney was the only Republican who support it

[@forman208]

Literally only because his daughter is gay, no chance in the world he'd ever support it otherwise

[@authentic1only720]

I love how the rest didn't

[@readyupad]

Respect to him for saying that especially as it wasn't in step with his party or candidates position. Gay daughter or not, it took balls to say that back then.

[@Joe13313]

@@authentic1only720 i personally say That Marriage is only between a Man and a Woman. But we are in a Free world that Can be Gay or Lesbian. I am Straight and i am proud of it.

[@authentic1only720]

@@Joe13313 you are absolutely correct, my only thing about gay marriage is marriage derived from the bible and the bible say being gay is a abomination. Yes ppl try to nitpick the bible. But what other things in the bible are a abomination???

[@_KungFuBarbie_]

A lot of people are calling these politicians hypocrites, but I think some of them actually did have their views evolve. I know mine did. Honestly, this has to be one of the quickest civil rights turnarounds I've ever seen. Edit: Emphasis on SOME

[@radwanlone4238]

True

[@rogerdickinson9335]

Truly sad to see what it’s spiraled into

[@Kingofavolon]

@@rogerdickinson9335 shut up

[@notoriousblt1038]

@@rogerdickinson9335 fuck off

[@nabil706]

What’s more likely that a politician actually changed his opinion on a big topic like that or that he’s just saying whatever gets him elected the next time. Please people use your brains🧠

[@cL-bf2ug]

I’m so glad I was born during this age. Imagine being gay or lesbian in the 40’s or 50’s.

[@thejfkshow347]

You'd be arrested, It was illegal back then.

[@RACCorpStudios]

Same.

[@CopperheadAirsoft]

Yea the good days

[@ismaelgardunojr9761]

Yeah back when america wasnt plauged with this issue

[@leonwi.426]

@@ismaelgardunojr9761 what „issue“ exactly?

[@jabarnes77]

John Edwards: “I believe that marriage is between a man, a woman and his mistress.”

[@caught4k493]

Lmfao nice one!

[@MyAleema]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheKing60210]

Based

[@Books-and-coffee0]

More like Bill Clinton 😛

[@leithbouacida2483]

his mistress can be drag no?

[@CillitPrang]

Christian Bale really nailed his performance as Dick Cheney.

[@Jump-2-the-moon]

Thought the same exact thing when I watched this

[@vdmur7952]

fr

[@jjmartchev]

666 :)

[@lukeworrall8518]

facts my man

[@mrjos1404]

In this matter, Cheney was ahead of his time

[@Jeuro38]

Because his daughter is gay. Only when it's not about "the others" would he care...

[@banger2998]

Jeuro38 of course to but this was personal to him he supported gay marriage years before everyone else did and you have to praise him for that. It’s not like Obama cares more about gay marriage he only does what will get him the votes

[@pingcredible3477]

@@banger2998 PISS ON DICK CHENEY THAT BASTARD REALLY LIVES UP TO HIS NICKNAME

[@pingcredible3477]

@@banger2998 His hair was also ahead of his time. By a couple decades.

[@fartfruit1157]

Its a shame liz cheney hates gays.

[@manwhosayshi1910]

Sarah palin looks like gregs mom in the diary of a wimpy kid movie

[@SamTheMountainBikeBeast]

Gretchen whitmer looks like a mom from a Pixar movie

[@linusmckinney3515]

A man of culture I see

[@thejew1789]

@@linusmckinney3515 Nice to see a fellow intellectual.

[@ShadowGaming26548]

A man of culture

[@ShadowGaming26548]

@@thejew1789 yeah

[@KasraSR]

All they’re saying is: I am strongly in favour of supporting the status quo, and pretending to hold beliefs that will make me an appealing choice for the average voter.

[@baglespelledwrong8159]

haha

[@aliancemd]

I don’t actually see an issue with somebody changing their opinions in a few years. I know I evolved on all kinds of topics.

[@byebyedislikecount939]

Except they don't actually care. They're just saying this for politics.

[@CSRgamer]

Part of being a politician is upholding the viewpoints of your constituents. It's what we elect them to do

[@spiralsausage]

I'd like to say I agree but I admit I hold politicians to a different standard. These aren't teens forming their beliefs, these are old people who should've engaged with critical debates more deeply before forming opinions that directly impact others. But it's all a game of winning over the electorate anyway.

[@rhettk8527]

@@spiralsausage if you expect older people to hold strong in their belief nothing would change because that’s the majority of politics

[@spiralsausage]

@@rhettk8527 Explains quite a bit

[@picklesthewise]

This is exactly the kind of evidence that should eschew political parties. Democrats as a party haven't always been for gay marriage, and not all Republicans have always been against it. Cheney had a gay daughter so it's not surprising his view (on that) was more tolerant. That's why only voting along party lines blindly on a straight ticket doesn't serve anyone - you actually have to know the candidates and what they stand for.

[@trackmaniaIIDX]

no one votes strictly on party lines

[@caitlinjopepe541]

@@trackmaniaIIDX oh honey, yes they do. It's tearing this country apart

[@whoopzitsray]

yes, people really really need to start doing actual research on each candidate rather than just voting for them because of their political party. everyone is going to have different views no matter what their political party is.

[@fcpecan7492]

That's why the 2 party system needs to be abolished

[@Shalalala_06]

People who only vote for party have gotta be some of the dumbest people I've ever heard.

[@AnirudhSharma9211]

Holy shit I saw Dick Cheney speaking for the first time, and Christian Bale did a wonderful job!

[@MaczaSPod]

Ehhh America...

[@NoobMachiavelli]

@Not My last name he is an indian. Nobody knows cheney outside america. Half of the people in my country don't know who obama is.

[@NoobMachiavelli]

@Not My last name do not ever assume that someone is living under rock just because they do not know leaders of America.

[@katzy3798]

@Not My last name consider the possibility that he has not been living for 30 years?

[@AnirudhSharma9211]

I am actually from India. And I agree with the guy who says that the world doesn't revolve around America. I honestly had no clue about Dick Cheney was until I learned that Christian Bale is playing him in a movie. And if you aren't living under a rock, why don't you tell me who was the vice president of India in 2000?

[@Champagne_Rob]

Why did joe Biden look like he hasn’t slept in 4 years in that 2008 clip

[@garfe5555]

Hadn't had his horrible plastic surgery yet

[@AnnoyingAllie3]

He looks exactly the same...he's like the laundry matt, hasn't changed..

[@chalpua8802]

Because politics sucks

[@election2024-harristrump]

thats what politics does to you

[@yourlocalramen1660]

So THATS why he’s always sleeping now

[@jakesizer6483]

"Marriage should be between 1 man and 1 woman". Trump who had 3 wives (and Stormy): 🙊

[@jakesizer6483]

@Luís Filipe Andrade dont forget about stormy ;)

[@johnnoneya7149]

Trump was actually the first president to be pro gay marriage during inauguration

[@jakesizer6483]

@@johnnoneya7149 nah. Obama was

[@jakesizer6483]

@@johnnoneya7149 3:51

[@Jacket01]

@@jakesizer6483 He was already president for four years by then biden and obama opposed gay marriage while running. Trump is the only one who supported gay marriage while he was running.

[@jordandalo2946]

They’re all politicians, they go with what their party says. When someone or something changes, they go along with it.

[@zakiaclarissa]

exactly!! and nothing has changed

[@kinsagamoto]

Isn't that what polititions are supposed to do? Act on the will of the people.

[@whatno5090]

It's kind of like doublethink

[@zakiaclarissa]

@@kinsagamoto but what politicians are doing is following whatever their party does and they’re not creating their own opinions on subjects so we really don’t know their true stance on problems.

[@D00Rb3LL]

@@zakiaclarissa wdym nothing has changed, gay marriage is legal now. Obviously stuff does change.

[@sebastianlajos866]

A Republican agreeing with a Democrat, a rare sight in today's politics.

[@thehillshaveaviators]

bro they were literally agreeing on denying people their rights

[@thehillshaveaviators]

@@Rhyean2004 and my point is that that’s not always a good thing

[@elikoffman4344]

@@thehillshaveaviators They never said it was a good thing just that they both agreed

[@elikoffman4344]

@Speaking Facts Far right is a problem as much as the fat left :/

[@greeceball456]

@@elikoffman4344 both are problems asshole

[@nocturnalmedusa]

A lot of people forget that BOTH republicans and democrats were against gay marriage at first

[@itsmylesfr]

Sure, but that's irrelevant now when one side is fighting to keep those rights in place and one is fighting to take them away.

[@zombies4evadude24]

They had to appeal to centrists until the Overton Window for social issues shifted enough to where progressives could feasibly attain equality. Doesn't seem like it's working very well now though...

[@krinky0666]

Now, only republican is against it. I will support the republic party for that.

[@delbobmain7772]

@@krinky0666what republican values do you support?

[@krinky0666]

@delbobmain7772 Alot

[@sebastianboeddinghaus3505]

So the first line: "I have friends who are in gay and lesbian relationships"

[@LaBamba1680]

Haha! I know. Wtf

[@isexuallyidentifyasanovenm1617]

What about it?

[@krossbow_]

Whats wrong with it

[@isexuallyidentifyasanovenm1617]

@@AreMullets4AustraliansOnly wym?

[@sagedraws1000]

Ok so to the repliers of this comment: in this context it was ok but in some circumstances people use it as an excuse to say they aren't homophobic.

[@burper-oe6tm]

Biden: “Obama and I don’t support gay marriage” Also Obama and Biden: **make it legal**

[@silasmoody2539]

@burper2000000 They didn't make it legal the Supreme Court did.

[@burper-oe6tm]

Silas Moody but he supported it when they did

[@silasmoody2539]

@@burper-oe6tm Yeah he did, but that's not what you said.

[@burper-oe6tm]

Silas Moody yeah fair enough

[@HowdyItLovll]

Almost like people can change their minds and alter their positions after educating themselves on situations that they previously were less educated and more biased against.

[@unagjac890]

An actual debate with real answers? No interrupting or childish behavior? WHAT!? Also holy shit what a different time.

[@stretchscreamers]

I miss them..

[@redcomic619]

So much more entertaining now though, let’s be honest.

[@doc8013]

@@redcomic619 you're kidding, right? Well, NO, it's not more entertaining in the slightest. It's disgusting and is dangerous for all of us.

[@harcoom]

Lmao it’s because Trump isn’t there. Before trump debates were respectful, after trump its just a yelling match.

[@stretchscreamers]

@@doc8013 not that it being entertaining is a good thing but it's just more of an observation

[@trentglaser3748]

Everyone has the right to hire a divorce lawyer.

[@davidhepple]

Mormon Romney believes in traditional marriage just like his great-great grandfather and his 12 wives.

[@downeastboy84]

👍👍👍😀👍👍👍😀

[@somemong8349]

Mormon RINO Romney

[@ecokanjukuoh4772]

*wives

[@davidhepple]

@@ecokanjukuoh4772 Thanks, I didn’t know the plural of wife is wives. I’ve corrected it.

[@obamalastname34]

That's Sigma Grindset.

[@Marshmellow3971]

Hearing democrats say “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman” is crazy. These days, that qualifies as hate speech.

[@iwanttodiepls]

The lie is..?

[@betterthanmost9549]

Imagine Dick Cheney being the voice of reason.

[@liltree8382]

Better Than Most George Bush was right Fuk Cheney

[@M.A.C.01]

@@liltree8382 tbh George Bush was just Cheney’s pawn in the grand scheme of things

[@carlmyers86]

Purely on gay marriage and only because one of his daughters is gay, on absolutely every other issue (like his lies leading to illegal wars that are still going on to this day) he's a steaming pile of human refuse

[@javiervega1065]

He's wrong and most of the world agrees with bush

[@notpissedenough5623]

Standard Cheney. Being vile and wrong.

[@MrHalohunter24]

Man, it's sad when Dick Cheney is the guy who looks good in hindsight.

[@chindit6784]

His daughter's gay, that's why he supports it

[@s4mfrench]

They look at the surveys and polls and adjust their “values” accordingly

[@forresthsu582]

Isn't that what we want, politicians that respond to our needs and desires?

[@professoroak5162]

Politics.

[@professoroak5162]

@@forresthsu582 that’s true, but shouldn’t we have politicians who have a spine and don’t flip-flop?

[@thartmann9284]

@@professoroak5162 I mean, they all make it very easy to forget, but politicians are people- all of them can experience personal growth- or the opposite thereof, as evidenced by the current administration. I don't think that adjusting your views due to personal experience or acceptance of a majority opinion should be considered "spineless" or "flip-flopping." If a politician decides to shift from opposing important rights and legislation to supporting or endorsing them, they should be free to do so. The party that remains opposed, I'm sure, will encounter no shortage of individuals willing to deny those rights and take that candidate's place, if elected.

[@angelomaldini3316]

@@thartmann9284 'or the opposite thereof, as evidence by the current administration' = TDS

[@DrockByte42]

"They're humans, right?" "yes" "then they should have HUMAN RIGHTS, right?" "woah! slow down there!"

[@fredarroyo7429]

Except marriage is not humans Rights and an institution designed by God between man and woman

[@handsomedevil4928]

@@fredarroyo7429 based

[@aleksandersaame9417]

@@handsomedevil4928 Based on incorrect views because marriage is a civil institution, not a religious one (at least the in the US).

[@vladimirputin1700]

@@fredarroyo7429 Then dont have a religious marriage? Religion shouldnt have a place in politics

[@fredarroyo7429]

@@vladimirputin1700 yes we need more christianity is politics. Theres no such thing as marriage without God. They should stay out of it if they dont want to do it Gods way

[@johngrindal7587]

What strikes me is not what they’re saying, but the way they’re saying it. It all seems so civil, these people disagree with one another, but they aren’t interrupting one another or screaming at each other, they’re being logical adults and sitting down to have a conversation for the sake of informing the American people on their beliefs. God I wish people were that level headed now.

[@necrago]

There still are people, but they're hella' rare

[@Rhh26]

Yeah, rejecting someone’s right to marry the person they love is fine so long as their comportment is ‘respectful’.

[@verbbudders904]

nice shitlib viewpoint bud lol

[@Lamidemonami7891]

@@Rhh26 yeah but the idea is that there at least talking in a civil way. The things they’re saying are horrible, but at least they aren’t screaming and interrupting others like Trump did. There’s a civility to the way they interacted that Trump sadly abolished amongst politicians on the right

[@Drkon6]

@@Lamidemonami7891 Imagine people praising politicians who view you as subhuman in terms of the law because those politicians are polite. Lol, the only people who care about this shit are those who already have all their rights.

[@bruck-man3625]

Government shouldn’t get involved with marriage, simple

[@heyahowareyou5971]

Periodt.

[@miniaturejayhawk8702]

*PREECH !*

[@miniaturejayhawk8702]

@@heyahowareyou5971 cringe

[@heyahowareyou5971]

@@miniaturejayhawk8702 k

[@TheRealCptObvious1]

Well not anymore at least

[@Irishpunk11]

Obama and Biden really didn't support gay marriage in 2008? For some reason, I thought he had always been for this issue. Crazy how quickly things have changed in this country.

[@alexcentury2166]

California of all states voted to ban gay marriage in 2008. The tide of public opinion started to turn around 2011.

[@joenotexotic4872]

He still said in 2011 that civil unions and nothing else, and that was still the popular opinion.

[@jantheking7028]

They changed for votes. That is always how the democratic party has been, they change their views to get more voters, but in reality Biden could care less about it.

[@blackgold754]

And it’s good

[@andrewfinch76]

@@jantheking7028 Is that really a bad thing though? Politicians are supposed to represent the people, so shouldn't they be changing their opinions to match what the people want?

[@lioncub7816]

President Bush gave a straight and honest answer. He didn't go around the question.

[@thatgirlreacts5465]

lion cub yeah, he’s an ass and isn’t afraid to show it! Makes it easier to spot him as the cancer he is! 👍

[@jamesbraun9842]

@@thatgirlreacts5465 At least he said what was on his mind, no other politicians have done that, most of them say excuses and Dodge the question or out right lie to people.

[@thatgirlreacts5465]

James Braun as I said, it’s good because that way it makes it easier to spot him as the cancer he is.

[@jamesbraun9842]

@@thatgirlreacts5465 And I said he was honest about it. Whatever you thought of him.

[@thatgirlreacts5465]

James Braun and I said that it’s good because that way it makes it easier to spot him as the cancer he is.

[@Dr_JSH]

It's bizarre to hear John McCain talk about upholding the sanctity of marriage. Give me a break. He cheated on his first wife after she was in a horrible accident and was confined to bed. Instead of helping and spending time with her at home to fulfill his wedding vow* (and be a decent human being) AND taking care of the children they had together, he was flying off to Arizona and Hawaii to f**k a millionaire heiress old enough to be his daughter (literally). The hypocrisy doesn't get richer than this, folks. *"...for better, for WORSE, for richer, for poorer, in SICKNESS and in health, to love and to cherish, till death do us part, according to God's holy ordinance..."

[@Godplayzdice]

There is no God. Period.

[@toy-bear-1077]

@@Godplayzdice that’s your belief.

[@foodlifefamily6140]

Right, the more reason that these politicians should be held accountable and should not be in a position to decide things that affect the fabric of the family and marriage.

[@Godplayzdice]

@@toy-bear-1077 it's science. Belief and unimaginative thinking created God. By man.

[@toy-bear-1077]

@@Godplayzdice I like to believe there is more when I die. I think giving people a hard time because they have a faith is stupid.

[@jadedjimmy]

Why does '08 Joe look like he's seen so much more shit than 2021 Joe

[@TheRokisaProductions]

@liam Anderson 😂😂😂

[@soccercodes7943]

@liam Anderson joe remembers he beat the hell out Trump and made Trump a loser so many times, after every recount that makes joe a winner every time.

[@thomasalvarez6456]

Plastic surgery

[@soccercodes7943]

@liam Anderson that would be better, trumps presidency was insignificant apart from covid and trumps 6 insurrection.

[@yeeticus_maximus9616]

@@soccercodes7943 haha alright sure

[@ColeODriscoll]

The fact that it was once debatable whether gay people had SOME rights equal to straight people is crazy. Those rights (hospital visitation rights for example) should be a given.

[@joshstaiger4332]

its not a constitutional right. its nowhere in the Constitution. so, its left to the states, unless we make a constitutional amendment. thats the way you do it, rather than having judges become legislators and ruining the balance of powers. this doesnt mean im against gay marriage. it just should be done the right way. if something is not explicitly a constitutional right, then its reserved to the states. yoi can national gay marriage, but thats through a constitutional amendment

[@smmm5559]

yeah fuck yourself marriage isn't a right

[@adammills9715]

@@Obs23456 What about married couples who can't have children or can but decide not to? Is their marriage not as meaningful?

[@adammills9715]

@@Obs23456 that's kind of subjective though isn't it? Lot's of people wouldn't view marriage in that way. If that were the case, why should we allow an infertile couple to marry if not two gay people? Legally speaking, the purpose of marriage isn't to rare children, should a gay couple be denied the legal rights afforded to them by a marriage?

[@adammills9715]

@@Obs23456 That may be the historical definition of the term but should the historical definition effect the legal rights afforded to same sex couples? You wrote that infertile couples are an acception to the rule and because they are man an woman they should be allowed to marry. How is it right that they should be given these rights but not the gay couple, because of tradition? Because that's how people saw it in the past? Your criteria for marriage is the ability to produce children. I disagree with this but even so with developments in in vitro gametogenesis soon gay and infertile couples will be able to produce biological offspring. If a gay couple using scientific advancements produced an offspring would you then consider them able to marry?

[@halfgeek1394]

If only Bernie dragged this nonsense up in the primary.

[@Willoboi7]

I wish They would let Bernie run for the Democrats,that way Republicans would always win👍

[@Willoboi7]

@Vlad Mere in extremely liberal states maybe, but generally no

[@Willoboi7]

@Vlad Mere name one circumstance in which that happened?

[@Willoboi7]

@Vlad Mere I like how you can’t name a circumstance so you tel me to look it up-

[@nehankaranch2149]

@Vlad Mere bernie is a commie thats all I say

[@chloerodriguez5238]

Honest question isn’t one of the reasons we left England religious freedom?Are first amendment so why wouldn’t we be allowed to marry someone of our own gender because a religion says so.

[@BuiltbytheBrick]

Dude, chill! The governments gonna make you the FBIs most wanted if you keep saying that.

[@BuiltbytheBrick]

@Jews deleted my 1st channel Being pro LGBT, and that other stuff wasn't exaclty 'mainstream' not too long ago. Not sure what you mean, and I never said I was pro any of that.

[@botanicboards3859]

nooo you obviously can’t have morals without being religious!!! /s

[@Romans8-9]

Gay marriage has nothing to do with religious freedom. A paedophile could literally make the same argument you did.

[@alvaro4867]

Firtsly, marriage is not an exclusively Chritian tradition so, their views on gay marriage are not based upon Christianity although they might be influenced by it. Marriage as a State regulated affair and in similar terms to what we know today as marriage in the West (In other cultures marriage is more of a contract of ownership, for example Islam of Hinduism) started in Classical Ancient Greece and Rome, basically as a means of protecting the womans and progeny’s rights. So since there is no woman or progeny in a gay couple marriage wouldn’t make much sense even in pre-christian Greece or Rome, where gay relationship were not taboo. In modern times a series of special benefits have been added to married couples such as hospital visitation rights and it is obvious those benefits should also be given to long time gay couples in some kind of civil union but claiming that there should be an institution of gay marriage identical to regular marriage is just sentimentalism with no real substance behind it.

[@Braylon18]

Government shouldn't be involved in marriage.

[@freddytang2128]

Should mormons or muslims be allowed to have legally recognized polygamy?

[@Braylon18]

@@freddytang2128 they can enter into any private contract between consenting adults.

[@johngalt3940]

@@freddytang2128 in the state of Utah yes. The far more pressing issue as I see it, is the issue of child marriage. I’d like to see Biden come out and speak out against child marriage in America.

[@freddytang2128]

@@Braylon18 marriage is not a “private contract”. If homosexual couples have a private contract marriage that’s not recognized by courts or hospitals or governments, would that be acceptable

[@DontStopJaime]

@@johngalt3940 that issue has been going on for decades Biden a democrat has no chance of changing republicans oppinions due to the age of Trump.

[@heroray87]

I honestly don’t think any politician today that supports it is lying. I think life has just changed. I am 14 but I think that 15 years things have changed so much. In 2004 35 percent were for gay marriage and that switched completely nowadays where only about 35 percent or even less are against. I think life has just changed a lot

[@jimbomacgee3499]

Yes, life has changed due to “progressivism” but do not assume that old politicians “changed their stances”. Once you’re roughly 30+ your views will never change, unless you personally have been involved or are very free-minded (very rare cases). Most career politicians are merely supporting such things to come off as “nice” or “hip”, but they vehemently denied such freedoms in the majority of their 40+ yr careers.

[@georgebrantley776]

@@jimbomacgee3499 Isn't that the point of what a politician should do? Support whatever policy their constituency supports, regardless of personal opinion?

[@tyler9703]

You're probably right. I guess some could just be trying to please voters but most have accepted that change in society as a welcome one.

[@jimbomacgee3499]

@@georgebrantley776 I suppose, however in practice when said politicians then campaign saying “i’ve always supported _______” when their actions and history prove different, it feels super disingenuous. 😕

[@lgstack2496]

True. Hard to believe the majority of Americans used to be against legalizing marijuana

[@robingronwald7993]

That moment when Dick Cheney is more liberal than whole Brooklyn

[@s0meguy0ny0utube2]

That’s mainly because his daughter is a lesbian

[@robingronwald7993]

@@s0meguy0ny0utube2 Ik would be really nice if more rep would think like him

[@austin78993]

Obama is so elegant. He calls his stance "An evolution" In other words admitting "Hey my views have changed. Go ahead and dig up a tape of me saying I don't believe in same-sex marriage. I'm not gonna pretend I didn't say that, but I'm going to make it very clear that I've changed my tune."

[@foodlifefamily6140]

Most of America disagrees with same-sex marriage imposition and we still do. Before Supreme Court legalized it 5 to 4, it was illegal in many states. In a Democracy everybody has right to exist and protected under the law, but marriage and family and how they are defined should not be redefined by the government. We do not have to agree with it or support it and that’s fine.

[@monkebidness]

The democratic party told him it was bad, then they told him it was good. Same with Bush, they don’t have a moral compass when they’re in the ring. Don’t be fooled.

[@foodlifefamily6140]

@Bryan Halstead Many would agree with what I have to say. The LGBTQ+ is a small population that has been made into an agenda. Many people would agree with me, many just don’t care. Yes my beliefs are popular in this country. I will not be forced to go along with something that I don’t agree with, and we are free to do that in Democracy. When it comes to this topic some become authoritative and say there is no room for discussion. Well I disagree, last time I checked in America we can disagree with each other.

[@foodlifefamily6140]

@Bryan Halstead you can’t categorize people you don’t know as homophobes, dont generalize all people who disagree on this as homophobes. We are not scared of gay people. Everyone deserves respect and dignity. Opposing views will not be suppressed, put down, or silenced in this country. Yes many feel the same as I do, but out of fear and attacks are not brave enough to share it. Live as you wish, but the institutions of marriage and families should not be redefined. How can we have a functioning society without a strong traditional family?

[@stevenk.9933]

@@foodlifefamily6140 Hunter-Gatherers literally had the entire clan raise their children. The idea of a "traditional Western family" is actually a very modern ideal and there isn't really evidence supporting that a "traditional family" is any more effective at being happy nor contributing to society than non-traditional families. There are many single parents, gay couples, and childless families who lead happy, healthy, normal lives. It is neither the place of you, me, nor anyone else to dictate how other people live their lives and what their families look like. Didn't Mary raise Baby Jesus on her own?

[@TG-qw7ub]

Convenient that CNN leaves out the clip of Obama denouncing Gay Marriage

[@TheSnapback]

They literally showed the clip of Biden saying it, are you stupid? They showed Obama addressing it as well. It's called personal growth. Back then, society wasn't as accepting of it, but as the idea of homosexual marriage became more acceptable they were willing to change their views on it. Why? Because it's what the American people wanted. Their views were malleable, they weren't inflexible like conservative values are. They embraced change, Republicans didn't. That's the difference.

[@chadzahirshah2588]

“Denouncing gay marriage” He supported civil-unions, which back then was considered “wildly leftist” and a “threat to the religious establishment”.

[@Giovanni-mj9uj]

I love how Obama and Joe's views on it changed completely between '08 and 2012

[@johnchessant3012]

Credit to Cheney where it's due. Worth noting though that one of his daughters is a lesbian. Conservatives start doing the right thing when it affects them personally.

[@radekseky4571]

Abso-fucking-lutely. And with that rule it follows that the fewer members of that minority there is, the harder it is to actually empathize with them. Don't believe people would be that bigoted if their sibling or a child turned out to be trans etc. We're just so incapable to empathize normally sometimes.

[@puggerinopug9280]

It's funny to see people realize that Bush-era neoconservatives are no different present-day neolibs like Biden. War crimes and gay sex LOL

[@anatomicallycorrectmuppets8180]

And only under that circumstance. And they forget quickly when it no longer is affecting them

[@lukethykim9964]

Same with liberals, as seen with Biden’s reversal. He and Obama saw that supporting gay marriage would get them political support (i.e. it affected them personally) and so they changed their position.

[@b.l.8755]

All kinds of people do the wrong thing if it helps them personally.

[@jonyprepperisrael60]

At least bernie stayed the same on his stand

[@sand747]

@Nick Arjomand show us then. Link something.

[@kcc1762]

There's nothing wrong with changing your mind about something.

[@samriwelkeish7981]

@@sand747 he is lying lol

[@sand747]

@@samriwelkeish7981 exactly

[@stephanychocolate6227]

@「 Deadpoppin 」 link the article them

[@TayDays1128]

Cheney: People should be free to do whatever they want Bush: Im not for gay marriage

[@hismajesty6272]

And Bush was being honest.

[@mbpolitics6872]

God Joe Biden in 2008. That is shocking.

[@MissCracker]

I don’t like him.

[@MissCracker]

VV K1 that’s why I love Bernie ❤️❤️

[@jacobwojtowicz9638]

@@MissCracker Are you going to vote for Bernie in the primary?

[@MissCracker]

Jacob Wojtowicz I’m only 15 but if I were older I definitely would ❤️

[@herilparis9508]

@@vishveshkhanzode9342 and Trump supported gay rights before Hillary did.

[@pearltears8039]

this is what happens when we allow people to think they rule everything! just remember people....the laws are for our protection not to imprison us by them

[@SafwanNet]

Tgis is what happens when citizens do not respect leaders and quality people are no longer around to be the leader.

[@Dutchmusicfan1992]

Only Sanders' opinion (yes not in this video) is not about winning votes.

[@robertp-i4065]

Absolutely! You can never tell much through soundbites but through the little we see of him, I think his heart is genuinely in it :)

[@EniotProductions]

That's why he's not getting votes.

[@Dutchmusicfan1992]

@@EniotProductions Indeed, people like getting lied to.

[@kaneclarke4825]

Any adult should be allowed to marry any other adult as long as they both consent. Period. End of. It’s not a difficult one.

[@Gazaforus]

We started with gay marriage The with animals marriage And then with siblings marriage And the with children’s-adult marriage..etc This cycle will never stop ! Because we humans have all kind of desires and psychological disorders and sickness!! I was watching a documentary about this topic gay men and women are exactly have no different brain MRI than any other men or woman. The surprise is just this is what they want ! To do the wrong thing just like drug addiction , but why would they get in a marriage then ?the simplest answer is they find men who easier to handle or they have past failure with women ! If we define what sex is ? Then why do lovers cheat on their loved ones ? Sex have nothing to do with love !! Men and woman could do sex with anything. It might be just a test in life that you have different sex orientation that you should work with your doctor or with your mentor or pastor about and could fix it . Faith can put thing on the right path . Why do people drugs ? Same thing !! It’s all from the satan if you’re religious, if you don’t believe in God that’s your choice , but don’t convince me that you’re different than me ! We all could convince ourselves with anything we want!! Last , why do gay men have no desire toward woman, then their partner dress like a woman ? And why do gay woman dress like men ? It’s so weird !! If you want to be a man then do transgender, but don’t convince me that a woman a woman can be a couple!!

[@nasillmatic1171]

Live Life the way you use periods and exclamation points makes me sad

[@nasillmatic1171]

Live Life well there’s actual problem with the ones after

[@user-tq5ql7dg2e]

@@Gazaforus Slippery slope.

[@daniellopez732]

@@Gazaforus Dude you created you're account 6 months ago you are 100% a troll.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

The primary reason why they said opposition to it is because they’re just coming out of the Reagan era, just as Bill marketed himself as a 3rd way. The era is known for conservativeness in society. So they didn’t really want to rattle the cage just yet.

[@bnap3221]

So you think they weren’t actual conservatives but just pretended to be so because Reagan had made the voters Conservative?

[@thisismyname1701]

@@bnap3221 pretty much

[@homounculus5769]

@B Nap Yep. Just like a ton of politicians didn't support civil rights for African-American people in the 1960s, but were compelled to do so because of Lyndon Johnson.

[@catnipcatmilk]

Biden didn’t really change his views, as is the common misconception. He was far more left leaning than Obama on the issue from the beginning. He was just following what his candidate was saying. Joe Biden was the one that convinced Barack Obama to pursue legalizing gay marriage when Obama didn’t want to. He also called transgender rights the “civil rights issue of the 21st century” back in the early 2000’s, when literally everyone was transphobic and it would have been extremely unpopular to say. He’s been like this for a long time.

[@paralyzedscore5414]

Just fly in from stupid town?

[@catnipcatmilk]

@@paralyzedscore5414 ¿Qué?

[@ip815]

Yeah it is the same as Trump saying in 1989 I think, that he does not like abortion at sll but still supports it. Even though I despise the man, think it is the same, when he wanted to become president he had to pretend to be pro life to get the votes.

[@UnchainedEruption]

Transphobic is an oxymoron. You can't fear something that doesn't exist. On the contrary, there was always empathy for people who cross-dress, as well as a stigma (but a deserved one). The difference is public attitude should be and was that those people need psychological help, whereas now, they have utmost privilege in society and successfully bully corporations and the public into subjugating everybody who doesn't pray at their altar.

[@pabloni1117]

Source? Please don't get my hopes up

[@levelup9273]

"I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman but" now let's see how you backpedal

[@Jump-2-the-moon]

People change over time, no one should have the same view that they held 10 years ago. It’s called evolution bro, maybe you should try it.

[@MH-wo5lj]

@@Jump-2-the-moon tbh I do not like trump (despise the man) but why do yall bring up his past and call him racist but biden can change?

[@Jump-2-the-moon]

@@MH-wo5lj It’s not his past, it’s literally visible within the last month lmao

[@dupersupersteven]

@@Jump-2-the-moon What did trump say that was racist. Just curious

[@MH-wo5lj]

@@Jump-2-the-moon last month? when was that?

[@chrisbuckley1785]

it's crazy to think this was only 17 years ago.

[@Olivia-jf8ef]

At this point why is gay marriage even something so political

[@SamTheMountainBikeBeast]

Because religion

[@Evanmnm]

@@SamTheMountainBikeBeast yep

[@sapphichorrors]

@@SamTheMountainBikeBeast but the 1st amendment

[@SamTheMountainBikeBeast]

@@sapphichorrors I know. We do have freedom of speech. But religion should not be in our politics.

[@hismajesty6272]

Because marriage is a political thing. The base unit of society is a family.

[@cowlark2000]

It's amazing how fast this view changed. Almost overnight!

[@adammills9715]

@@Jwdude123 How did you come to the conclusion it's unnatural? Homosexuality is observable throughout the animal kingdom. If it was unnatural, how would that make it wrong? Modern medicine and technology isn't natural either, that doesn't make it bad

[@pye5114]

@@Jwdude123 Yeah... Straight people never have anal sex. xD

[@randomeststranger]

That's why Libertarians/Conservatives, Republican/Democrat are a fraud. They're basically the same thing.

[@randomeststranger]

Adam Mills Your analogy is an absolute fallacy. Don't compare us to animals, humans have brain and are conscious. Animals don't know what morality is. Try another excuse to justify your depraved degenerate tendencies.

[@adammills9715]

@@randomeststranger Could you please specify the fallacy in my argument? I was not saying that humans are animals (although I would). I was pointing out that 1. Homosexuality is natural as it is observable in nature and 2. Something being natural or unnatural does not automatically make it good or bad. Im a bit confused as to what youre mean. Animals can have brains and be conscious. They can exhibit empathy, nurture, a sense of community and self sacrifice. Elephants even mourne their dead! Would you disagree with this and if so why?

[@fess3932]

Why do people act like it’s bad that politicians change their views based on what’s popular? Its their job to represent us not themselves?

[@lukerp1581]

It makes them cowardly Not presidential material

[@placeholder3853]

Politicians don't change their minds, they just say what they're told will give them the most votes. You see this when on most issues, politicians from the two major parties will use the same exact themes and stances in their speeches. Even Donald Trump and Kamala Harris hit the same notes in their speeches.

[@Domino13334]

Because not every politician should represent popular politics. It would mean that the majority is always on the right path. But that is not reality. Minorities need politicians to stick with unpopular views.

[@fess3932]

@@Domino13334 no we really don’t. Just because you’re a minority doesn’t mean you get to trump everyone else

[@briangatt2956]

Politicians change their minds to suit themselves not for you, they just want your vote.

[@ethankerr1919]

If someone just saw this video they’d think that Dick Cheney is the most liberal person out of all of them

[@illegitimateotaku794]

Literally what I thought

[@zacharybrand8145]

It seems as though, the two most gay friendly guys in this video are Dick Cheney and Al Gore.

[@Shalalala_06]

And Bernie Sanders (since the 70s)

[@chad9015]

@@Shalalala_06 "in this video"

[@eichy815]

Nope, Gore only used us (LGBT+ people) as a prop or trophy, to boost his rhetoric, when he was speaking in front of a left-leaning crowd.

[@ryanbianchi3118]

Crazy how none of them supported same sex marriage when it was politically inconvenient but all of them support it now that it is socially accepted.

[@Grason20]

And then we have Cheney (for family related reasons)

[@Noname-ns2md]

"Freedom means freedom for everybody" that really is a great quote from Dick Cheney

[@rustyshackleford6318]

The constitution does not “afford” people rights as Kerry claims. How brash. The constitution recognizes inherent rights of the people and affords oversight to the government.

[@austinmoon]

Exactly. Rights are things that all humans deserve regardless of what they've done or where they were born. If the government "gives you rights" that's a privilege, not a right.

[@llamaliammm]

@@austinmoon if its a privilege the why do gay ppl not deserve the same privilege as straight ppl then?

[@brunoinnamorato9324]

Very well said.

[@devanshrathore9112]

No haha. Inherent rights? Where are they written, in your dna? The only rights you have are what are afforded to you by some consensus or authority. Rights are a social construct (a useful one), not some objective truths.

[@llamaliammm]

@@devanshrathore9112 you clearly get what the fellas tryna get. Of course its a social construct, just like religion, god, conducts deemed "moral". But so what if it is? Should we still not grant ppl rights that society has come to a consensus all ppl deserve?

[@Powderlover1]

Well, Dick Cheney was right about something.

[@luvkemi]

The fact of the matter is, and always will be, that a human beings rights to be married shouldn’t be up for debate.

[@Cal90208]

Any human rights shouldn’t be up for debate

[@JamesSmith-sc9bu]

Same sex couples do not have the right to claim the sacred right of marriage. It is between a man and a woman, that's it.

[@Cal90208]

@@JamesSmith-sc9bu No it’s not. There is no reason for that to be. None at all. So screw you

[@lilafox6185]

Especially by a bunch of straight guys

[@zbdmo4914]

@@JamesSmith-sc9bu no. same sex couples do have the "right to claim" marriage, seeing as how it's legal in all 50 states of the US and many other countries and territories. I'm surprised people are still homophobic in 2021. the fight for rights was almost a decade ago in some places, how are people still obsessed with it?

[@The_GreenHub]

As a gay person I do understand the points being made about tradition and religion - but is it not time that we move forwards with the separation of religion from the state?

[@russellkeske9708]

I’m a Republican and Trump voter: I believe love is love, and free will and choice is something that makes America great!

[@CRMdrifter]

Yeah gay marriage is becoming more of an agreement from both parties as time goes on.

[@degew9367]

@The Geek Squad Leader I mean gay sex exists. Sooooo...

[@degew9367]

@The Geek Squad Leader tell me, what std is gay specific

[@mattcyktor2385]

@The Geek Squad Leader you do know that straight people get HIV too right?

[@mattcyktor2385]

@The Geek Squad Leader What do you mean "bang randoms" wouldn't anyone you ever have sex with at some point in your life be a "random"?

[@computergenerated3833]

Imagine actually thinking two people of the same sex getting married affects you in anyway. Let people do whatever the fuck they want. This is not a complicated issue.

[@Frenite]

And that’s exactly why our country is going down hill. We put pride in ourselves and believe we can do whatever we want and forget God.

[@speaknowstan.13]

​@Frenite God doesnt exist so pls stfu ❤️

[@upulor744]

@@FreniteYou have the right to follow your own holy book. You do not have the right to impose that on others. You have to follow the laws that you believe are from God. People who do not believe in God or believe in other gods do not. Let people live their lives and stop trying to control them.

[@Frenite]

@@upulor744 As a Christian, I have a mandate by God to share the gospel with others. It may not be the popular thing to stand for in today’s culture, but it’s a stance I must take. Whether people want to listen or not is up to them. It would be wrong of me to sit back and do nothing.

[@upulor744]

@@Frenite You are not sharing. You are forcing your religion on others by mandating that others follow it. This is a secular nation where religious law has no place. It's wrong of you to try and make religious law common law.

[@lizzyjamieson2630]

The fact that these arguments are just "I don't like it and therefore it should not be allowed" or "my religion says no and therefore it should not be allowed" is crazy to me, but it's even crazier that that argument is still used today, on multiple topics. Years, decades, and centuries later.

[@nateboy1489]

It’s amazing to see the transition from 2000 to 2012 and how the issue evolved politically.

[@BenRabinowitz-1]

The issue "evolved" because of propaganda and assaulting morality.

[@Dezara]

Nothing pisses me off more then hypocrites.

[@jeb_bush6129]

Changing opinions = hypocrites?

[@BertRussie]

We all change opinions. Very very few people believed in gay marriages in the 90s and early 2000s, not just politicians. Changing your old opinions doesn't make you a hypocrite.

[@fupalover]

Thats all politicians are.

[@stewmeat92]

So does GOD

[@NKanchevful]

S M they didn’t change thier opinions they knew it would be more politically beneficial to be pro gay

[@weathersbythesavagereacts2853]

Seeing Dick Cheney makes me want to give Christian Bale all the props in the world

[@info_bot]

The government needs to get out of marriage/the bedroom. Alimony is disgusting, and prenups are treated like jokes by the courts. Stay the heck out of anything to do with marriage and sexual relationships between consenting adults.

[@aatif7518]

There are some limits We are not animals Consenting adults huh?

[@NUCLEARARMAMENT]

Smart guy.

[@zephyrean8824]

Dude. Relationships and marriage are different. Marriage comes with legal changes so it actually does matter.

[@docdune]

super outdated words, but the way they actually communicate and talk (or wait to talk) respectfully is not like anything we have in today's discourse.

[@johncerasi]

Conservatives have always been monsters, they’re just mask off now. If their entire point is “we hate gays”, does it really matter if they say it nicely or not?

[@bradws4eva]

I was just thinking how we thought they were full of shit!

[@nurettinburakcevikparmak6298]

You just proved op’s comment right

[@BakedPotatoesBooty]

@@johncerasi the point was that the commenter miss the respect they displayed in their conversation etiquette. And you are doing black and white thinking, its never ALL dems or ALL republicans...

[@vince-pm1zf]

I’m a republican but I think gay marriage should be allowed. We live in a country that is founded on the principal of freedom, and same sex couples should have the same right to marriage as straight couples.

[@travis6694]

@Mike not1 you a pussy cat

[@hismajesty6272]

I disagree on the grounds it’s called a marriage. I’m fine with them having benefits but the basic unit of a society is a fertile family and a gay union is simply not that.

[@vince-pm1zf]

@@hismajesty6272 lol I was 16 when I wrote this but I would actually agree with you now. Once we pervert the definition of marriage away from one man and one woman (ie two people capable of reproducing), there is no clear definition to replace it. Then marriage can perhaps be between three people or more, between a human and a horse, etc. Where does it stop? We need a clear definition of marriage to your point.

[@brettknapp2216]

​@@hismajesty6272 So infertile men/women also can't get married? The concept of limiting a life long union to just procreation is inherently strange. I personally think it perverts the real reason people get married, loving another person.

[@danix4897]

A wise man said “so they’re gay if they wanna get married and be miserable like the rest of us so be it” -Petter Griffin

[@uniform1901]

Cute but no

[@fn_flashy9101]

wasn't it Chris Rock?

[@hismajesty6272]

The lesbians will be the miserable ones. Gay men get along fine.

[@Fireglo]

Family Guy is basically "plagiarism the TV show".

[@christianleone1770]

cool, how about now you show Trumps stance on gay marriage all the way back in 1993

[@colindree9802]

This is from 2012 homie

[@fabianpantoja5579]

@@colindree9802 lmao he don’t even know

[@harishdavinci8290]

He blind

[@thisismyname1701]

Cool how you dont even know what youre talking about... sounds alot like the man himself.

[@fabianpantoja5579]

@@thisismyname1701 didn’t claim to know what I was. Just kinda funny that the dude didn’t know the video was from 2012

[@danielalexander3406]

I like how CNN showed Obama and Biden’s updated views when same sex marriage became fashionable, but not their initial views which comported with the meaning of marriage that had been held by rational people for all time.

[@vmurvmur4937]

i never thought i'd say this but Dick Cheney is the only one that made sense

[@lostfan5054]

It's only cuz his daughter is gay. Typical republican. They only care about issues when they hit close to home. Same reason Rubio cares about immigration rights.

[@Frenite]

He didn’t make sense to me

[@niweshlekhak9646]

@@Frenite Cheney said "Freedom should be for everybody and everyone should be able to have partner they want."

[@Frenite]

@@niweshlekhak9646 “Freedom” is not an excuse for government-sanctioned rampant immorality.

[@petermelang6695]

@@Frenite Who says it's immoral? You? Then tell us why it's immoral.

[@musicaddict4214]

Trumps view is marriage should be between one man and at least three women.

[@xxxtreewad]

🤣

[@starandfox601]

That's actually closer to real trandational marriage then the man and woman thing.😝

[@bagelmom168]

Honestly I don’t really mind if someone thinks gay relationships is wrong, as long as they don’t discriminate. I don’t need you to like it, I just want to have the same rights as straight people

[@EddieMachetti]

@TheQuadLaunchers it’s nice to see there are reasonable people.

[@sfh05004]

"Let's avoid nuance, Senator Biden." Like placing a candy bar in front of a six-year-old and telling him to not even look at it. 🤣

[@ianmccown]

It’s weird to hear Biden say he wasn’t for gay marriage back then, and it was risky as hell for Obama to support gay marriage in an election year no less on a divine issue at the time.

[@k-lawn]

Pretty misleading to leave out Obama’s initial 2008 stance.

[@justinb864]

They did post Biden's 2008 stance in which Biden made that stance also on behalf of himself and Obama. In the 2012 clip, Obama himself said he had evolved on the issue. Thus admitting that didn't always support it. It's really not that misleading.

[@asterixgallier8102]

Pretty misleading to claim this even though it's obviously untrue, K-LAWN.

[@k-lawn]

@@asterixgallier8102 In 2008, he said "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage." What exactly is untrue about what i said?

[@SCBetaRS]

I’m glad you made this video. This needs to be saved.

[@Justin-kd2jz]

You believe that marriage is between a man and a woman? Good. All that means is YOU will not allow YOURSELF to marry someone of the same sex. That doesn't give you the right to dictate how other people live their lives.

[@avery1199]

I don't get why people get married. I don't think that the government should be involved in people's romantic lives. It's weird.

[@tofupowda]

You're either an absolute idiot or you're 12 years old. Either way, you're still a fucking idiot. Marriage isn't because the government wants to be in your life, you nonce. It's because of stuff like divorce. It's a protection so that your spouse can't just take everything you own & claim it for themselves. It's so your spouse cant just run away with your kids etc. Grow a fuckin brain.

[@TheNinjapancake14]

@@tofupowda There are other reasons people get married/ divorced

[@hismajesty6272]

The government is involved because marriage is a matter that includes property, family, legal stuff, taxes, cohabitation, etc. As for why to marry, it’s been done for as far back as we have records. Mankind is naturally a coupling creature, and marriage makes a pact to set the boundaries for their relationship.

[@juniwilliams]

Lol. Why has this ever been an issue? If it is an issue, you have problems. Didn't agree with a lot of things Obama said, but I loved his statement here. I'm not even gay, it's just so goddamn hypocritical to have a problem with this.

[@jimmyrustle7768]

"Gay Marriage" is an oxymoron.

[@sapphichorrors]

@@jimmyrustle7768 bitch how

[@serenabee9928]

I can’t believe this was ever an issue and we still have so far to go as far as human rights go

[@Frenite]

It’s very much an issue. God created marriage to be between one man and one woman alone.

[@homounculus5769]

Your God is a myth.

[@batuhanyayla7214]

@@Frenite and then marry the opposite gender no one made you to marry your sex just stop forcing your beliefs on others

[@deus_vult8111]

@@batuhanyayla7214That’s fundamentally wrong because one’s beliefs will always been “forced” or impose in society. The opposite side wants to force their view via anti-discrimination laws on same-sex “marriage”, education in schools, etc. Marriage has always been and always will be between one man and one woman, not government can ever change that fact, it’s only our job to recognize that fact

[@forestmanification]

It's inhuman to engage in sexual acts with the wrong sex, it's against the nature of the human body. At best you can call it a inhuman right, but you cannot call inhuman things "human".

[@evy2031]

In just a couple decades, America switched from 70% oppose, to 70% support. I suppose some things ARE moving in the right direction.

[@NicholasEYoung-iz2ue]

Dick Cheney may have changed his mind because of his daughter. But put respect on him for that because for him to endanger his career to make sure he’s done all in his power for his daughter to be happy is amazing.

[@LeoPeridot]

Same sex marriage doesn't hurt anyone, doesn't kill anyone, so it should be legal everywhere. We are who we are and everyone should be understanding.

[@Frenite]

It hurts the morality of this country and promotes wickedness

[@littleantukins4415]

​@@Frenitedon't care

[@L_back]

You could say the same thing about guns. “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people”

[@forestmanification]

It destroys the purpose of marriage and place children in the care of known sexual perverts. Homosexuality hurts the people partaking in it as well, it goes against who they really are, humans can only have sex with the opposite sex, sex cannot happen without the 2 sexes being involved.

[@hotrightnow8932]

long story short: The magic man in the sky thinks it's bad therefore I also think it's bad

[@Jake-qc3mj]

@@cainzisugly every time I go to church ima call God sky daddy now.

[@dacius3094]

no, the Creator of The World doesn't think it's bad, read more about it bruh

[@warmsignal]

It's weird, because I've been following politics since the Bush era, and I seem to remember it becoming accepted earlier than what it really did. I don't remember Cheney being supportive, but I also don't remember Kerry being against it, I certainly don't remember Biden or Obama being against it. Easy to forget how bigotry was just the norm of our culture, not that long ago. Black people were only recognized as being equal in rights 50 years ago.

[@eichy815]

Gore/Lieberman were pretty much hemming and hawing, trying to have it both ways because Vermont had just introduced civil unions at the time but they didn't want to alienate religious Dixiecrats. Kerry/Edwards refined that position saying they were totally in favor of same-sex civil unions even though they both opposed changing the traditional definition of marriage. Obama/Biden took a similar position to Kerry/Edwards, but they were more emphatic about the access to civil unions.