Co op EFT with Progression is here. But there are Questions - Unheard Edition 14.6 Update

[@Flooberjobby]

PVE progression including co-op was originally part of the game, and they removed it. Promising it to come back. Now they want to charge us for it. No one is talking about it.

[@TheOnlySillySocks]

That's what happens when you go from designing a single player game, then make it multiplayer to fund the future single player, then be kind of forced to put single player back in because over a million players want it all along and cant wait 15 years until the single player is actually released. It's confusing but true xD

[@Flooberjobby]

@@TheOnlySillySocks And I've been patiently waiting for it to come back. But then this BS. I can't wait to join the class action.

[@raeepar4085]

That's BSG for you. The EOD Edition always showed they were just hungry for money. That's why I never wasted my money on it.

[@ctpejiqk2784]

@@TheOnlySillySocks Let Buyanov play his game alone. Best regards from Russia.

[@fr4gg3rd00d]

I have EoD and it says I've already purchased co-op. Seems like EoD accounts got it automatically.

[@Andrew-pj9kb]

I'm the mod author for Algorithmic Level Progression (ALP) for SPT, and echo much of what you say here. I think that Nikita should consider embracing the massive modding community of SPT.

[@thecozyplace1206]

I love your mod!

[@Thelostartistx]

Thanks for your mod bro.

[@Genocidejim]

Appreciate you

[@ethankotas8788]

you’re a real one bro love your mod

[@dino7968]

Well, appearently, he's willing to give mod support to the coop mode of the game but only at the release of the game. So maybe we'll see your mod there, who knows!

[@Genocidejim]

Totally agree . I’ve played spt for over a year and love it. Why would I pay £100 for no modded spt with a friend ? It’s rediculous. Not to mention all those that bought EOD have been royally screwed. The backlash is unprecedented

[@thewaracer843]

I think it's pretty funny how, after SPT (WITH THE OPTION TO MOD) and a lot of other Tarkov-ish games with PvE-Coop only have surfaced within time, now out of "nowhere" BSG decides to publish a new edition with a heavy price tag and thereby risk a huge backlash from their loyal community. This is actually insane. I got my popcorn ready!

[@Unknown_Genius]

its 10€, the coop mode is sold standalone as well in the expansion tab - which is fine for anyone who bought the standard edition because: Who on earth would buy the EOD edition for a game where you didn't even know if it won't shut down a month after? Yeah, they screwed people over, obviously. Then again, they also said that there won't be coop on multiple occasions, the only reason why they're doing it now is because they got serious competition on the horizon, people love IRR despite its early stage, people want GZW despite it being in an extremely early stage as well with the EA release still coming - now they want to cash in on something that people asked them for for a long time. Edit: Nevermind, after some more googling it seems that the coop mode they sell there got released in february, so I take the wild guess that its something different and they're just trying to cash grab on the double, thats just scummy.

[@Nyarurin]

They could've made this in to a separate game, that would be played and sold separately from the pvp tarkov. And by having it at low price - they would be able to get a lot more fresh newcomers who liked the vibes of tarkov but who didn't want to play pvp. But with 250$ pricewall i doubt there will be a lot of willing to try. They could've also improve stand alone pve tarkov by reworking the AI, reworking some tasks (less "shoot 100 scavs from a makarov from 100 meters" and more something with a cohesive narrative like helping the mechanic to build his cryptofarm by raiding his competitors and getting more GPUs), adding QoL in to the game (why do we have to go outside of the game to look at the map for example?), adopting full mod support, and more. By doing this they would make it better than SPT project and thus - getting more players as well as good rep. But instead they decided to go with a lazy cash grab before they'll lose all the remaining relevancy.

[@jl4w54]

Give EOD owners the CO-OP Tarkov mode. That is what was promised. If they do, I will sink thousands of hours into it. If they don't, I plan to leave and never return.

[@michalcalik4918]

I think that would be absolutely correct, but for those (like me) not owning eod version, should be option to buy pve mod as a standalone dlc with price max 40€. Cause now for me as a holder of sandard edition, the price is 198€ and the only reason id ever consider that, is just the coop pve. And that price is over the line. I dont care about 6€ unity assets or having 6 slots pocket, or gamma, stash size. Just to enjoy game without cheats, chads and rats, with FRIENDS.

[@TheKelloz]

Aand i am fairly sure BSG does not give a flying shit that you leave.

[@ZeeroDubs]

​@@TheKelloz There is some truth to this. At least in that they care less about your hours played than money spent. As would anyone who is producing a product in exchange for money. Can't pay the bills with someone else's time spent.

[@jl4w54]

@@michalcalik4918 I agree with you. Just make it available for purchase outside of a bundle or edition.

[@jl4w54]

@@TheKelloz dang you riding nikita meat fiercely

[@stevenp2241]

As a EOD owner, it's SPT for me.

[@TheFruitcake1983]

Nikita released Tarkov's final quest allowing you to escape from it.

[@poulvisbech2853]

I played maybe a few hundred hours live Tarkov, even while doing that my biggest dream for that game was to just play offline with my friends and have some progression together.. I am personally just a bit outraged for having to pay for something I feel like BSG clearly stated when I bought the EOD version would be part of the main game. I have never payed such a high price before for any game, yet the way Tarkov is being developed I felt like it was well worth it, since it included ALL future DLCs. We payed up for a future promise and we were all happy about it, giving you (BSG) our money, now give me my fucking content! Start selling cosmetics and small none pay to win items... I dno, be smart and figure it out... Just don't fucking punish those of us who actually payed a premium and was given a promise with that premium. I really don't like lawsuits etc and I think it is for small minded people, thinking suing all and everything is a way forward in life..... But..... if they don't change their attitude and delivers - maybe we should fuck them up - even if it ends up killing the game. The game used to be pure and for that reason alot of people bought into it, same with alot of people who will buy all kinds of "Looks" ingame, who will buy the stash lines etc, that is fine IMO. I understand BSG need to make some money. Sorry for the rant, but this is how I feel...

[@TristianWrites]

I’m not happy that EOD players got scammed. It doesn’t hurt as much for me because I’m not a EOD player. But the issue is I want to play offline as a standard account holder. But I didn’t but EOD because It was fucking expensive and this has the same issue.

[@TheOnlySillySocks]

Well it's worse, because it's even more expensive than EoD.

[@phils8450]

They did such great work with the SPT mod, the new pve mode will never come close to it unless they allow mods

[@fragrantmanx4371]

Is the offline already out? If so how does it run compared to SPT? I probably will just stick to SPT because i like the mods i have selected to make my game feel unique.

[@shwakoue890]

I'm in the same boat. I have my mods just right. I've seen videos of the unheard pack and it is a very lack luster, no mods, no QoL mods. Not worth the price tag

[@iguanaATTACK]

Like my friends say if it was 20$ or 40$ sure but 100$+taxes f no and yes i feel scam and looking for a class action lawsuit

[@Unknown_Genius]

It's literally 10€ in the expansion tab... Edit: Nevermind, they just labeled it coop so anyone who doesn't google it doesn't know that it's a different thing released in february. What a scummy company.

[@darkchill34]

SPT download servers are groaning under the weight of all the new players... there's even a coop mod (tho I have no friends, so... 😅)

[@knightsofthesucc1853]

Could you link it possibly? The website is impossible for me to search.

[@NoFear1979]

BSG would have nothing to loose from endorsing the SPT community. Why? Simply because more people would likely buy the game because they would be assured that it's fine to play SPT with mods. Even better if they endorsed SPT COOP, it would likely increase BSG's stance and reputation on the market and increase the player pool. What else is the upside? Well for one thing, BSG wouldn't have to worry about hosting PVE servers since the server would be hosted from a players computer. Which means BSG would save alot of resources and money to not have to maintain PVE servers. It's a win win for everyone... On a final note I highly doubt the SPT community will fade out and vanish, even when they implement PVE COOP into the vanilla game.

[@SURPRISEMF096]

super helpful vid well done ive easily got over 2k hours on SPT played for last 2/3 years ive never liked the camping and cheating on live also honestly not to good at live tarkov but i really do hope EOD players get access to this CO-OP for free or a small price id love to play but there is still alot of questions what about the flea market/pmc/ bosses/spawn rate for PMC and scavs but overall really looking forward to this game mode and would happily move to co-op from SPT as long as they have AI PMC BOSSES FLEA MARKET and everything SPT does. lastly i would like the co-op to wipe most people who play SPT delete there profile or have to when live has a wipe because there is a new patch update we have to do and it involves updating live tarkov n updating to the latest download on SPT website would get boring never having a wipe.

[@ShreddingDragon]

Question: Can you play the new PVE mode solo? Because the existing EOD co-op practice mode you can't.

[@SoOptic75]

Yes you can play solo and coop with full progression. Its bs and you're way better off playing SPT until Nikita hopefully folds.

[@Jibade1]

I'd like to just play solo progression but still can't do that unless it's practice mode

[@TheOnlySillySocks]

Maybe give spt Aki a try. It's a single player mod for tarkov.

[@stevenelson25]

Every single person I tried to get into this game, loved it, but only wanted to play offline co-op so they didn't stay into it. I bought EOD because I wanted all the future DLC, that is the only reason. At first I didn't like getting to skip the safe container or stash upgrade, because it instantly made some in game quests and items useless. Purchasing EOD at this point has given me negative content. I payed extra money, and am getting less of a product as a result. Unlucky I guess. I still think tarkov has potential to be one of the best gaming projects anyone has ever attempted though in lots of ways.

[@Dirtbikingg]

Confused on what Co Op EFT is…. Can you complete quests in Co Op? Is it pretty much EFT but with no PMCs? Confused on the benefits of playing Co Op

[@TheOnlySillySocks]

It's exactly eft, but the pmcs are AI. Raider AI to be more precise. Everything else works the same way. minus the dsync and the cheaters.

[@Dirtbikingg]

@@TheOnlySillySocks that’s what I thought, just wanted to make sure. Thanks.

[@casbinwat]

Imagine locking off a mode behind a $250 paywall...the audacity

[@Unknown_Genius]

you can get the mode for 10€ on the expansion tab. 250€ is for the entire edition with all the extra stuff including tarkov itself. Edit: After looking more into it it turns out that they're 2 entirely different coop modes, the 10€ one only allows you to play practice raids with other players instead of solo - absolute scummy to just label it "coop" without any further dead give away to anyone who doesn't know what precisely it is.

[@casbinwat]

@@Unknown_Genius for realsies? Okay well that's better by a long shot

[@Unknown_Genius]

@@casbinwat I just googled a bit, and it seems that they actually did release that purchase in february, so it probably even is another mode without properly specifying it, what a scummy company, was on the brink of buying it with a friend for that bit, but now definitely staying clear of anything they're offering.

[@lexian5602]

@@Unknown_Genius That's offline co-op. PvE Co-op and Offline Co-op are different. Offline co-op was a feature that was exclusive to EoD users. It just lets you play an offline practice raid with another EoD user. Nothing is saved.

[@Unknown_Genius]

@@lexian5602 yup, I should update my original reply, I figured that out when looking into it further and realized that it released in February (through news sites, not even their own site), which is just an absolute scam to not properly differentiate between them.

[@IronFist69]

i'm happy and kind of piss off what BSG is going... happy for the new offline mode but piss about that i payed the eod and should get the all feature dlc.... do i now??? mayby not but im not not paying for another one. EVEN if its ''only'' 95euros

[@mundusproductions6407]

It's either they add this for new players or they add SBMM. We all know what the better option is.

[@PR0J3CTW4RRI0R]

I would be surprised if Tarkov did not take a massive hit from this decision. It is not in the game's best interest and is very anti consumer.

[@AdventureSonick]

they want me to pay for the pve mode even if i bought the EOD! CASH GRAP BSG! F******* deinstallation incomming and Reinstall after the PVE mode is free for EOD user.

[@Jager_Xx]

Do your friends also need to own the unheard edition as well to PVE offline?

[@TheOnlySillySocks]

If the access to it is locked behind the purchase I assume so, yes.

[@OgOssman]

They gave us a Poorly implemented spt.😢😢😢😢

[@123456789santia]

So if i buy the 10 USD Co-Op expansion, will be able to play that? or do i need the 250 edition? Im very confused right now.

[@TheOnlySillySocks]

You might want to try the mod for spt first. at least look around and compare the 2.

[@Ace0hSpades]

I dont think I'll come back despite being stoked to play this game coop. Co-Op isnt worth a 70$ price tag. I payed for the base game. I should have access to the game. I stopped playing base tarkov when I was learning the game and died so much I had to do hatchet runs because I couldn't afford a pistol. Yes I am aware its a skill issue. Im a slow learner, and Im not watching hours of videos and researching all the maps and loot spawns to be able to play.

[@viidinpolttaja]

Was watching my friend play this shitshow of a pve mode and all the pmcs are just regular raiders with dogtags and maybe a big bag or something similar. Also the AI will aimbot you through bushes and windows. I highly recommend you boycott the game at this time.

[@blakecongdon3719]

I’ve been playing Tarkov since 2019. I’ve refused to play SPT up until about a week ago when I had finally had enough nonsense from the inconsistency of a live raid. Playing SPT was probably the first time I had had fun in Tarkov in almost a year, I’m glad they have implemented this into actual Tarkov before I got too involved in my SPT profile. As for the cost, I’ve been playing Tarkov for 5ish years now on my 100$ for EOD from the start, COD players will pay 70$ every year to play the same game so an extra 100$ to enjoy the game again for years to come is an easy decision.

[@TheOnlySillySocks]

The problem is you should have all future downloadable content for free. DLC. Legally they have to give EoD everything they give to new UE version. and a new player would have to pay 250€ plus tax to get it. Don't surrender your rights as a consumer this willingly. They are there because many fought for you to have them.

[@t-money1984]

BSG is continuing the proud tradition of stealing the best ideas from modders to make their games better. Fallout: New Vegas and XCOM: War of the Chosen come to mind.

[@fabrizzolla]

I have the impression that this move from BSG will bring some serious trouble to SPT: even SPT community stating the mod adds something missing to the game (and requiring the original copy of it), this is not an issue anymore... offline is now availble on Unheard, and this fact alone throws SPT into the light of an illegal subproduct... even more. Let's see what will make more noise: EoD customers or the SPT community in the legal field....

[@TheOnlySillySocks]

Correction. It's not a sub product. It's free add on content. What mods are supposed to be. It's content to add to the base game. Technically not illegal. Does not infringe on their copyright since you need their property to use the mod. And since it does not have coop, and has many more mods to build on it, it's no direct competition. As more news and things come out, by the minute it seems, I can see that SPT will only come out stronger after this BSG "ass sniffing show".

[@gigachad5701]

I really want to play coop tarkov but not for 250 Bucks.

[@JimmyJJB]

the ai pmcs are just raiders, loot, clothes and all they dont even spawn in pmc spawns

[@TheOnlySillySocks]

In the official coop tarkov or in spt? Because in Spt you can mod the AI to your hearts content.

[@JimmyJJB]

@@TheOnlySillySocks in co op, the only thing that is diffrent between "pmcs" in co op and the real raiders is that they spawn with a dog tag

[@TheOnlySillySocks]

oooff, missed opportunity there...

[@isaacrhodes4617]

is it co-op ONLY, or can a single player jump in and play pve on their own?

[@TheOnlySillySocks]

I assume single player is embedded in the co op description like 99% of co op only games of modes, but good question, I guess we will know for sure in a bit once it drops.

[@Flooberjobby]

@@TheOnlySillySocks PVE progression including co-op was originally part of the game, and they removed it. Promising it to come back. Now they want to charge us for it. No one is talking about it.

[@trippyleaf4853]

Here for that answer lol If its coop ONLY i damn sure aint paying for it. If it can be ran solo... i MIGHT pay for it.

[@leighsteen2938]

Huge dub for me

[@DriGuy]

Lets all let this game just die, along with BSG.

[@mrhardwork8924]

good video.

[@mrhardwork8924]

I installed spt today and never going back. BsG hit the nail this time.

[@Twitchisatrick]

I'm not paying another cent to EFT. EOD users got lied to. SPT has co op just gotta host your own server

[@yuketoroamanu3367]

Gg tarkov is the skam

[@MissinginAction]

whats worse is that tarkov offline coop modes ALREADY EXIST AS MODS, WITH MOD SUPPORT. why should i play this if i can play a much cheaper, stabler, and funner version of the game with my friends??

[@TheOnlySillySocks]

Well, coop offline with progression is a tricky subject and there have been a few mod projects for it but never a fully reliable one. Is there a mod that has come out recently that does it?

[@blacky8060]

i dont know about stabler. SIT is barely stable with mods

[@MissinginAction]

@@blacky8060 not sit, MPT. MPT is way way more stable and uses the same systems BSG uses

[@MissinginAction]

@@TheOnlySillySocks yes, MPT. It works extremely well and is much better than sit

[@TheOnlySillySocks]

@MissinginAction can you use mods like SAIN and Amands in MPT?

[@dzemalharacic9043]

you can porches EFT Co-Op separately from their website and it costs 10€

[@TheOnlySillySocks]

that's offline coop practice mode with no progression. not what's on the unheard edition now.

[@blacky8060]

from battlestate games to bullshit games

[@matsoren8865]

EOD can be upgraded UNHEARD for 95Euro

[@TheOnlySillySocks]

yeah, 95€ for an upgrade version that was supposed to be inferior, as BSG stated before... Funny how that works sometimes.

[@Flooberjobby]

PVE progression including co-op was originally part of the game, and they removed it. Promising it to come back. Now they want to charge us for it. No one is talking about it.

[@TemTee]

More like 120e its 95 without taxes

[@SethTheFall]

⁠@@Flooberjobbyit was a part along time ago but it wasn’t its own mode and they stated they wernt keeping it and never said they’d bring it back…

[@Flooberjobby]

@@SethTheFall They said they'd bring it back once the game was done. Why remove it from part of the game to make it it's own thing? I don't understand how you can defend them.

[@fullreanimate5415]

there is a 10$ expansion of it so you can avoid purchasing the unheard addition

[@TheOnlySillySocks]

Ok, that is for coop practice mode without progression. The new mode is coop pve mode WITH progression... Make sure to carefully read before spreading a lie. There are quite a few people spreading that. I'm starting to believe it's a misinformation campaign...

[@yeezybandit]

For $300😂

[@nierka4]

Don't buy it, it's a rip off

[@Cubey_Sucks]

can you reset your PVE account? is there a ping limit for playing with foreign friends?